I'm a retired software salesman that has returned to my lifetime hobby of photography in full force. 60 years ago, I hated using a Yashica TLR for my high school year book photos. I could not imagine anyone wanting to go back to that mirror image framing/aiming situation until I heard the idea of a TLR where "T" means "Two" and not "Twin". Interesting idea. I'd give anything to not having to expose my A7R sensor to dust every time I want to change lenses. And the best motivation I've seen for medium format is Iceland. I came back with the best landscape photos I've ever done using my A7RIV. I since bought a GFX 100S and am doing my best to really start using it to its full capacity before my next trip to Iceland. The sooner the better. Thanks for a great job guys. Keep it up.
Tim here, I was one with the A9 question. Thank you for answering! Decided to switch to micro four thirds and picked up a G9ii last week. Came to the decision after consuming all your videos about the OM1 and fact Chris uses one for as his work. Paired with a 20mm/1.7, 35-100/2.8 and 100-300 for far less than my Sony gear. So far living the compact size, makes it easy to carry around and even taken it skiing to get pics of my daughter. This weekend I'll be trying it out t a local ice lake race. Thank you again! Love the podcast!
as someone who exclusively shoots motorsports; either stick with Sony and get an A1 (or A7iv, though I've not used that) or switch to Canon and get an R6ii or R8. In motorsports, autofocus is BY FAR the most important attribute to a camera and nothing out currently can touch a modern (as in release in the last 3 years) Sony or Canon. I love the look of the Fuji and adore all the features Panasonic is including, but their AF is a full generation behind. The Sony/Canon are almost telepathic when it comes to vehicle/helmet tracking. When using a native Sony/Canon mirrorless lens (with the linear focus motor), your in-focus hit rate will be up in the 90%-tile, meaning out of a burst of 20 shots from a vehicle pass nearly all of your shots will be in perfect focus, and you're selecting which shot has the best composition/angle rather than selecting the 2-3 our of the 20 that were actually in acceptable focus, like with other systems with inferior AF tracking. Same goes for video, it doesn't matter how good the video capabilities are, if the camera cannot track a car/bike as it zooms by at +80mph, then it's no good for motorsports application. You can pick up an R8 for $999 from the Canon refurbished store if you're patient and the cheap RF100-400mm lens has amazing tracking capabilities with it's linear focus motor. I've not used an A7iv, but if it's anything like the A1 in subject recognition speed and track consistency, then it too would be a fantastic option if you want to stick with Sony. We have a very specific need as compared to a portrait for landscape photographer and if you buys the wrong camera, you will be at a significant disadvantage in this genre..
Honestly, I think the Nikon Z8 would be a much better choice than m43, weight and size aside. It's basically a natural upgrade of the a9. a7IV like Chris said is also a great choice in terms of price, if you don't need fps faster than 10fps.
@@kanaheiusagi Weight size and price. This is all a hobby for me and for the price of a used Z8 body I was able to purchase everything used for the G9ii. So far the autofocus and stabilization have worked well for me as I was able to get pictures of kids and friend skiing while also skiing. Still need to try it at a race but that is a little less demanding of a situation.
@@badshoes As long as your good with your photos. Just sharing, in the past I've used Nikon D80, Olympus EP2/EM5 II, Fuji XT20/XT4 and Sony a7C, and I switched from Nikon to m43 because of weight size and price too. But looking back at past photos, I was the least impressed at the Olympus photos, so I have a grudge against m43, but maybe things have changed a lot since the EM5II. Was the most impressed with the Sony a7C from day 1 and eventually upgraded to the a7IV (which is a huge upgrade from the already impressive a7C).
@@kanaheiusagi So far I'm enjoying the picture quality, and especially Leica monochrome. The AF seems a little less sticky than my A9 but plenty sufficient.
To Chris’ question about why would anyone choose medium format over full frame? Why would you go full frame if you can get the same quality from APS-C? If you had a 100mp full frame camera, the sensor would have substantially less dynamic range than the medium format. I think the question is less about sensor size and boils down more to use case and image quality. I think you don’t get a substantial increase in IQ for most use cases in full frame vs. APS-C but a medium format sensor is substantially larger than full frame sensors so one could argue a proportional increase in IQ. This works if this leap in IQ is necessary for your use case. I still believe APS-C is a much more sensible approach compared to other sensors.
I have had in my hands on both the latest-greatest ff sensor (Leica SL3) and the Hasselblad x2D, and those saying the difference is not that big,….have not looked properly at these cameras outputs. I preferred the Leica in most categories (viewfinder, autofocus, ergonomics,…) but one critical difference I could not discard was how much better these raw files were from the X2D. Not in terms of resolution, but in terms of Color accuracy, smoothness of rendering, dynamic range,…we are in a totally different league there. The files out of the camera are basically,….perfect. No need for post. I wanted to convince myself the difference was not so big because of the pile of money the system asks for,….but reality is in the picture,….a camera’s ultimate goal is to take pictures, and the ones coming out of this body are hands down the most beautiful I ever got to see
Yes I agree with you. I have the Hasselblad x1d. Way older and compared it with A99ii and A7iv and there is a huge difference. 35mm full frame is convenience but personally I would rather shoot with the Hasselblad even if focusing is slow and shooting is slow and I have to adjust my shooting style. Not everything is about speed and getting things quickly. It’s good to take time to shoot your own photos and slow things down with models or subjects
I have grown really fond of the Fuji GFX100s, which I picked up second hand 2 years ago. The image quality is great, the lenses are great, the files are great for editing, it's just a wonderful camera to use. But you have to use it at its strength, for slow paced photography. If you need fast autofocus tracking, high video specs etc. it's not the right the camera to use. Sure you can approach aspects of the image quality with full frame, but I love this Fuji more than e.g. the Sony A7iv I also use. And when it comes to aspect ratios, I really like shooting 65:24 (panorama) and square, which is great on a 102 megapixel sensor, as there is plenty of resolution to work with.
1:02:44 Just for anyone that wants to do this, it is good to set any video scaling options in your editing software to “nearest neighbour”, in other words integer scaling. If you use bilinear scaling the image might not turn out quite right.
Hey Jordan! Curious to know why you recommend the X-T4 over the X-T5 for video. Is it only due to the X-T4 having the flip screen over the articulated tilt screen of the X-T5 or are there other factors you take into account?
Oversampled 4k causes overheating and bad rolling shutter in the XT5. If you shoot subsampled, you lose a lot of detail, worse in low light and DR. 4k60 is line skipped only on XT5 vs oversampled with a 29% crop on the XT4.
Capture One has not been made by Phase One since 2019. It was spun off as its own company. However, they are both majority owned by the same private equity firm.
You guys should make a comparison video of the Fuji GFX100 II and the Hasselblad X2D / CFV 100C and focus on the differences in image quality specifically. I think that would be important since from everything I've seen Hasselblad's photos look (actually a lot) more detailed and less digital than Fujifilm.
I can help. As a professional working in the industry I have both systems - the Fuji is far more advanced in terms of range of lenses, optical add ons such as ext tubes, T+S lenses - telephoto with a supposedly 500mm at some point!!- however the Fuji falls down in several areas when compared to the Hasselblad X system - 1st - focal plane versus Leaf - or Central Shutter - in our studio we always reach for the Hass when it comes to portraits - it is quicker to set up than the Fuji - outside though its the Fuji. When it comes to commercial the Fuji and our old Hasselblad H6D100c are still king - image quality - the Hass has more natural colours - lifelike - real - the Fuji is a far more complex machine - it is heavier and takes more time to set up - and there is always the danger that you have either forgot to turn something on or have something turned on or off that you didn't expect - we also have a Nikon ZF for fun and a Leica Q2 Mono - but the Hass will always be the favourite - we also use it on a Linhof Technical - but its fiddly to get right - and takes time - the Hass is not weather sealed the Fuji can work in pouring rain - the Fuji is more robust - but the Hass 907x now with 100c is my personal favourite as it can sit in the palm of your hand shoot with one finger and at waist level - I love it - but if you want a complete system = then Fuji - if you want natural sweet central shutter firing at higher speeds with the new XCD 2.5mm (and same filter size as all of then) the Hass works that in better - do not even think of buying the optical viewfinder for it - it's a gimmick which does not work- also now the 100c comes with a dedicated flash bracket for triggers - something its smaller sibling was unable to do effectively - we use Broncolor and Elinchrom for different purposes and it's now flawless - hope that helps - good luck
@@nelsonclub7722I love my Hassy X1D. It’s so simple to use and that touch screen interface is hard to beat. The colors are nice out of camera. No haven’t had the Fuji medium format but have tried x100 series and had Fuji as my first mirrorless but that interface sucks and I just don’t like the image that much. It is nice but not Hasselblad nice
Diffraction, a problem of physics, will prevent 80mp no less 100mp fullframe sensors from being created. The solution is a larger sensor. Focus stacking and multishot is an option for fullframe. However, capturing the moment, will require one shot, and that requires medium format.
I believe that the key of a future for MF is to be an alternative to film. People that have a high performance Sony, for example, for sports photography and wants to "change" to trigger creativity. The experience of shooting a 907x is totally different, not only because of the camera's form-factor but also because it's 4:3 instead of 3:2 forcing a different compositions. The idea of $63K is new: You can still get the H6D with a 100 big sensor (like Phase One) for 32K and it hit 25K new when introduced, but there was almost no market and Hasselblad dropped it. And that is a problem, the photography market is contracting, so having a smaller market share of a reducing market don't look nice.
I just got a used GFX 50s II with 35-70mm and I am hoping for better weather, but today I was comparing its image quality versus my Q2 Monochrom (also purchased used). GFX at 35mm using Acros mono compared to the Leica full frame and then shooting the GFX at 70mm versus the Q2 cropped to the same area. What I discovered is... I have too high a limit on my credit card and must be suffering from cabin fever madness.
Considering how often information on TH-cam is influenced by money, I was sick to my stomach with worry when you guys mentioned the OM System releases. With them sponsoring the podcast, my only hope was that maybe you guys would just not comment further on it. Much to my surprise, you were actually forthright with the criticisms from the community. I think that you sugar coated it a little bit, considering the community has their pitchforks ready, but overall I was very impressed. Thank you for being an honest and forthright publication!!!
Wow, hearing that quote “photos should be as boxy or as wide as possible“ was soo cool as this is *exactly* my summary after one year of shooting (almost) exclusively film.
Thanks guys. I always enjoy your podcast, partly because you often challenge my own prejudices. I am primarily a medium format photographer, and I am a professional photographer. I specialise in large prints (call it fine art if you will, although that’s a bit of a marketing term). My primary camera is still the GFX100, which is five years old. I haven’t updated it to the GFX100ii largely because it is still the same 102MP Sony sensor that we saw introduced with the GFX100 and later the Hasselblads (forget the marketing claim by Fujifilm that somehow the 100ii has a “new” sensor). You started the segment on MF commenting that it only seems to change every ten years or so. For me the last fundamental change was the 102MP sensor. I am thinking the next sea change in MF will be a new sensor innovation, either a stacked 102MP sensor or a Global Shutter. On the last possibility Sony already has a 120MP GS sensor that it some five years old now but has only been available in technical, industrial applications. This will be the next frontier. I’d welcome your views.
Honestly, I think GS will only become appealing to the main MF demographic if or when they get good enough to incur no significant hit in DR compared to your standard BSI CMOS. A stacked 33x44, on the other hand, could be very interesting.
I think, logically, the next big update will be to make medium format cameras have more advanced video capabilities. Not because their users necessarily request it, but to make a model look more attractive for the money you spend than the competition.
I’m excited to see a new MFT camera. I’ve been shooting since the film era and have shot with most everything digital…Leica, Fuji, Pentax, etc and never have MFT a chance until recently. Admittedly, I was one of those sensor snobs that said no way and the pictures will look like a 2006 cell phone camera. Boy was I wrong! Fantastic system with affordable lenses and camera bodies all the while fantastic photo quality and features. Honestly, my Leica has just sat in its bag since I got a Lumix GX85 because the camera really IS that enjoyable to use. Threw the Lumix 20mm 1.7 on it and use the L Monochrome mode that Leica helped create for Panasonic…and the heavens open up and the angels sing. Killer BW photos right out of the camera
I actually just traded in my gfx 100s + gear and moved to the nikon zf. After learning what I like to shoot and what I need, I don't really need high resolution, I do need high dynamic range. Although I loved the gfx, it's still quite a chunker of a system. Heavy over all and I really missed the retro handling of the x line. Giving the zf a shot I've been quite happy and have a kit built out that's nice in size weight but still great iq. My gear journey was always a chase between looks handling and bigger and more resolution.. but down the road I found what I really need and what I enjoy :)
I agree 1000% that lenses should be recognised as their FOV (for the image circle (ie extreme corners -- ratio format doesn't matter) when at infinity focus.) What's this confusion about Full Frame Equivalent FOV? That's just FOV (unless you're referring to say DX vs FX mode -- but each of those lenses have their own FOV. FOV is FOV. There is no full frame equivalent thought needed. That's the whole point of using FOV. Grow some, and start using FOV. Everyone will quickly get use to it, just like people have to get use to mm when starting photography, when really it should be FOV all the time from the beginning. FOV is the great unifier. Fuji should jump on it first as they have two main mount lines.
First let me say that I love the podcast and I find the reviews by Chris and Jordan to be both informative and amusing. It also seems to me that Jaron would be an exceptional presenter and posseses great knowledge and experience and should consider making videos in addition to the podcast. That said, sometimes Chris goes totally off the rails. His desire for a mirrorless TLR is bizarre. Mirrorless and TLR are mutually exclusive. After all the purpose of using a TLR was to provide the ease of use of SLR without the significant vibration and noise of an SLR. And mirrorless cameras have already eliminated the mirror and the associated slap. What Chris seemed to actually want is he ability to look down to view the image. So I would suggest what he really wants is a Hasselblad 503cw with a digital back. Of course with the tilting screen he could really accomplish that with most mirrorless cameras just by tilting the screen up 90 degrees. This of course is obviously possible with the Hasselblad 907x 100C. BTW: when you review the Hasselblad 907X 100c I would love to have you include the use of it on a Hasselblad V series camera, perhaps with the 100mm lens.
I whole heartedly disagree with you. A Leica M is a totally different way of shooting and firing at fun as hell. Why not a TLR which gives a unique shooting experience too?
The Leica M actually uses a functional range finder window to compose the image. Your mirrorless TLR will not be using the second lens to compose the image. Will your mirrorless TLR also reverse the image as TLRs naturally do? Are you going to request a mirrorless SLR next? :) @@niccollsvideo
@@g.lindzey3291 Yes. It is essentially just a mirrorless camera with a top facing panel. But now you’re letting pedantics ruin all the fun and joy, which is often what being pedantic does. I think it would be tons of fun.
It sounds like the desire is more for a “modern reinterpretation,” sort of like how Fujifilm has unique OVF technology but are not true rangefinders. You can keep a similar style as a TLR, update and tweak the functionality, and offer a unique shooting experience. Acknowledging it may not be authentic. It’s a good idea because as some of the camera technology plateaus, differentiation can be in the form of aesthetics and unique usability.
And another comment, about lens focal length vs field of view: it’s something that I’ve thought about before but for interchangeable lens camera systems that will not work either. Because if the camera system has full frame and APS-C cameras in the same lens mount then already you need to mark your lenses with two different fields of view. Then you get the different crop factors between Canon APS-C and other systems which will slightly change field of view, and then you adapt your Canon EF mount lens to a Fuji mirrorless and it’s not the same field of view anymore. Or mount it on a m43 camera and it’s still narrower. At least the focal length can be somewhat correlated to depth of field.
Full frame equivalent field of view is the perfect way of measuring equivalence. All removable lens cameras have lenses measured in actual focal length so if compared with different size sensors they need an equivalence to see the field of view in one’s mind’s eye. All fixed lens cameras from phones to Leica Q2 to superzoom bridge cameras always have lens focal lengths converted to equivalent full frame field of view/focal length, hence no conversion necessary because the sum is done for you and printed on the lens. No change needed or if it is, swappable lenses for all sensor sizes should similarly be printed with the full frame equivalent just like compact and fixed lens cameras.
Had been a long time Capture One user, since sessions worked a lot better for my workflow, but had been really disappointed year over year with their lack of feature updates (actually useful features found in LR e.g. subject masking), while over-charging 2-3x more per month compared to LR on a subscription model. Or, charging $200-300 on a license model that forces users to upgrade when a new camera's released the next year is outrageous, (they basically just provide new camera RAW support for less than a year after the licensed is purchased), I had to purchase Capture One 22 (with literally no useful feature updates from Capture One 21) just so I could get RAW support for a7IV. With how good LR is getting (e.g. AI denoise, better subject detection working with copy and paste), switching to LR is a no-brainer at this moment.
One thing about Hasselblad is their amazing color science. For me if I added MF it's the Dynamic Range and the Color not necessarily to print super large prints. You cannot beat Hasselblad Color right out of the camera. And with Fujifilm 100ii has 20 film simulations and now with the added Reala When I started photography I was a Hasselblad film shooter. I had 4 film backs loaded with the different Kodak and Fuji colour and B+W films. I switched back and forth on what I was photographing. For me that was essential. But today we are the color editors not like before when the lab did everything for us. Having either of these cameras helps us to have amazing images with a lot less playing and adjusting on the computer. I agree today between FF and MF is so much closer than the old days of 35mm vs 120 film. For me if I added MF with either of these cameras would be so much FUN I have been a photographer for a very long time and it's so more exciting today .
It is exciting what has happened in MF. I came from 8x10 film to digital because of the Fuji GFX 50R, and because Tri-X in 8x10 is now $17 a sheet. I had given up on the medium because of cost. When I started it was $0.75 a sheet, but it got to where I couldn't shoot it like I wanted to. Fujifilm drew me back in with their cameras. I own a 100S now. But I have to say that there is a certain "look," a kind of creaminess that 8x10 film has that I have yet to be able to reproduce with the 100S. I miss it. The 100S makes a great image, but it doesn't have the same feel as 8x10 film. I guess I'm just old.
Love the content, great variety of topics! I shot Olympus micro4/3 for years. Rest in peace. These "new" products are sad, as is the name change. I guess Panasonic will lead the micro 4/3 format now.
My X-T5 is the ideal camera for what I do. And then I can fantasise about medium format. Nothing inbetween for me XD. Gutted to hear about Capture One being in a bit of trouble.
@@antzpantz Went the other way around. Had the GFX 50R and sold it for an X-T5. For what I do (landscape/hiking and general travel), the X-T5 and the APS-C lenses are much better suited and flexible. And after cropping the X-T5 files to 3:4, they often look very similar to the 50R 😅. Maye it‘s different if you shoot a lot of studio/portrait 😉
@@mgscheue It is a wonderous thing. I just cam back from a few hours with it by the coast today. It has some really nice settings in it. I use AutoISO groups a lot. I love how you can set a button to do 'Recall custom 1 settings', which makes that button toggle between your current setup and whatever you programmed in the custom 1 group in the Q Menu. I have my front control dial set so that it changes my exposure compensation or, if I press it, toggles to varying my shutter speed a bit around the current shutter speed setting (both of which work great in low light - I just set shutter speed to something like 1/125 and then that front button can be used to rapidly vary it a bit). All sorts of stuff.
150-600 full frame lens on m43 eliminates one of the best arguments for an m43 system. The body is not much smaller (which I am fine with having large hands), but a significantly lighter smaller set of lenses would be great. I moved away from Oly when they sold to OM. I have kept an eye on it from afar but not convinced OM is maximizing their investment in the purchase of Oly. PEN absence also notable. I continue to travel and hike with Fuji and have a Nikon Zf as my fun camera.
Nikon has a rebranded super telephoto zoom lens for the Z system And it’s $1000 cheaper than the rebranded lens just introduced by OM systems, This does not encourage anybody to buy into the micro 4/3 system instead, it encourages those to go full frame with the benefits of full frame.
hi guys thanks for your amazing work, do you really believe in explanation of OM System about the incompatibility between the new function of the OM1 2 on the Om1 1?
I used Red a long time and they have really quite large dynamic range. It is really hard to clip the highlights vs my still cameras. I can capture sunsets that are not possible for me with my still cameras. I use Helium and Raptor currently.
I'm going into an arts school for photography soon and I'm starting to find my old laptop handles photo editing pretty poorly. Is there a good laptop [Mac or Windows] for under $1200 CAD that you guys like best? If it can handle editing 4k video that would be nice too.
Capture one can do wired tethering to ipad and iphone now :) The GFX 100 ii does it wirelessly to an ipad too, i think the xh2s does it with the file transmitter grip too. Tether tools air sync also works as an external dongle style solution and is apparently less ‘quirky’ than the cam ranger.
I think the state is that many people still think there's some "medium format look" on digital cameras and don't really understand the implications of crop factor
I'm guessing the app store Fuji X app rating is heavily weighted by the old version. The new one is hugely improved. And you didn't mention the Leica Fotos app, which is also quite good.
If CaptureOne goes under will users of the existing software licensed thru subscription still be able to run the software when the subscription runs out and needs to be renewed but can’t?
If C1 goes under (they wont) then you just pirate it. I dont say its possible and I'm particularly not saying Im aware of people doing it since they got fed up with C1's move on perpetual licences, and of course I did not heard about it being a really easy process. Just the birds were chirping about it
@@leventebandi More furious on perpetual licences that doesn't update RAW camera support the next year, forcing users to buy a new perpetual license the next year.
Given how they’ve just made Capture One Express unusable, no. And, like many others, I got so fed up with almost weekly email demands to continually ‘upgrade’, always at a (‘discounted’-hah!) price, I’ll have nothing more to do with them.
The digital medium format talk is interesting in that medium format typically gets downplayed vs full frame. It’s ironic because it’s the same type(s) of argument APSC had vs full frame when full frame was less ubiquitous and the ‘expensive digital option.’ I have yet to meet a regular digital medium format user who willingly takes the IQ hit from medium format to full frame unless they have a specific need to address (speed, size, etc). Even as ‘cropped medium format’ it’s hard to go back. As digital medium format continues to drop in price, increase in speed, and gets into more hands, it’d be ironic if full frame is the format that gets squeezed between the economics and size of APSC and the IQ of digital medium format.
In regards to Capture One, I agree - I was confused with how their licensing worked. At the moment, not seeing anything truly compelling to upgrade to the next version
Bring on the Z6 III as my next camera. Great tele lenses for wildlife, excellent video. Probably looking to shift away from m43 as my main setup - probably retain a few bits for travel
First off it’s not a competition. Jordan does a great job with his lighting but he also lights a smaller area. I like the lighting that falls off onto his shoulders, but I want to light the whole desk and my body evenly as well.
@@niccollsvideo I'm sorry if my comment was rude 🙌 I didn't mean your set was bad, far from that. You are right about that is a personal decision, and in a podcast with video to illuminate the whole set and desk is better and less fatiguing for the viewer.
Hey Guys, I'm looking to get a system (laptop) for both photo and video editing on a budget... I am not doing 6k editing... The most will be light 4k with most of my videos being 1080p. I use the Adobe suite for all my edits and recently been dabbling with Resolve... I primarily shoot weddings and events video and photography anything with people in it. Any recommendations??? Maybe y'all can consider doing a session on the ranges of laptops for the different types of creators.... Something for consideration.
Pentax 645z and Panasonic S1R shooter here. Horses for courses is what I have to say. Both these cameras have the cleanest images at ISO100. They beat the Sony A7RV and the Canon R5. The are several parameters where they fall short of the other cameras but when it comes to outright IQ at base ISO, these bodies, along with the GFX100, still rule the roost. 4:3 vs 3:2 is a whole other conversation. MF look is a real thing but the ability to shoot f/1.4 and f/1.2 with full frame is another reason I carry two systems.
45:30 As far as ARRI LF being more popular than the ARRI 65 you do have to considered that their are only 70 ARRI 65 made as of 2020, they are heavy and they can only be used by renting from ARRI Rental. There are tons of ARRI LFs out there which you can even buy and way smaller. It's not like it's a apples to apples comparison.
I laughed at your whining about shooting aerial photos with medium format. I assisted the site photographer in the 1970s for a nuclear power plant construction project. We would go up in a helicopter flying about 50 to 200 feet above the deck while he used a Mamiyas RB-67. No image stabilizer, no shutter speeds above 1/400sec. The chopper pilots were all ex-Viet Nam hot doggers. They worked out a dive and rotation technique that scared the hell out of me but the photog came back with amazing high resolution images shot on Panatomic-X that were often blown up to 30x40 inches and examined with a loupe. I learned a lot from that man.
Good job no one is forcing you to purchase one then. No doubt you complained about the price of the 150 - 400mm f4.5, but thousands of people appear to have disagreed with you. I'll bet thousands more will disagree with you with respect to the 150 - 600mm.
The OM1 MkII may be a fairly minor evolution, but it does mean that future OM1 (MkI) firmware updates will exclude added features. The OM1 MkI is now discontinued or "fully replaced" in their words. If there are future firmware upgrades, they will add support for new lenses, and that's about it. Yes, there is a ram upgrade in the new camera (which should have been included with the first version), but I don't believe that all the improvements are dependent on this added ram. Here's a question. How long before OMDS gives up on supporting the OM1 MkII? Will support for this new camera last 2 years too? Or will they add some more ram and "fully replace" the MkII? This question alone keeps me from upgrading to the MkII. Maybe I'll wait for the MkIV.
As an invested(and very happy) Olympus user: If JIP follows their runout/rundown method ala Sony Vaio laptops, I really hope someone else can buy out OM System and bring life back to the system. I originally thought Panasonic, but they wont make the Olympus lenses fully compatible, which rules them out. Maybe DJI if they run both Hasselblad and OM System brands? DJI is fwd looking and would do a great job me thinks..But probably no chance for the Japanese to sell to a Chinese company.. Who else then please??
I feel that the medium format are supposed to be a slow experience where you think of what you doing, if you want snapshots with Ai, Ar and other CPU genarted features, use your phone.
I praise the request for a new Pentax 645z. I have one and I love it. Please! Please! Please Ricoh. Just an upgraded 100mp sensor and internal sensor stabilization. That’s all I want. Maybe an internal 1tb storage. I feel have it compete with the Hasselblad X2D, but doesn’t have to be mirrorless.
If pentax came out with a 645zii the only change I'd need to be all over that would be IBIS. A wide angle option like the fuji gf 20-35 would help me dump the fuji gfx100 which I absolutely HATE the experience with.
I think one major "feature" of medium format that hardly anyone (who hasn't worked extensively with 120 film) talks about is how there's a great deal of lens compression that can be introduced in the same field of view, compared to smaller sensors. This is what a lot of photographers who prefer medium format want out of the format, and it's not necessarily related to higher dynamic range or resolution or anything like that. The photos genuinely look different, because a photo taken of the same scene using a 50mm lens on a FF camera and 80mm lens on a 6x7 format camera will have vastly different degrees of distortion/compression owing to the lens.
This is the entire look explained perfectly. I love 35mm but it lacks the magic of a 50mm so I’m really keen to try out the 55mm on MF. But with Capture One on the rocks maybe it’s better to choose Hasselblad for Phocus.
@@PetaPixel I'm talking about lens compression, which is completely different from depth of field. To be clear, I've seen this video before and I agree with the general conclusion that the bokeh effect is more or less achievable on FF with an 'equivalent aperture' lens. What's not achievable is having the FOV of a 50mm lens with the compression of a 80mm lens, which is quite useful for street photography or portrait work. Anyway just my 2 cents.
My choice for the best “medium format film look” goes with the Sigma Quattro H : despite its APS-H size sensor, the Foveon combined with the magnificent Sigma Art lenses offers the most stunning files ever. All the other Sony exmor cmos sensors all have the same look. Sensor size doesn’t help.
Great show as always, but I can’t help being disturbed by the fact that a media that reviews gear is sponsored by a vendor producing said gear. The 3 minutes of OM system infomercial at the beginning of the podcast is a very awkward moment.
Image quality hasn’t slowed down. The Fuji is sick when it nails focus. A7rv isn’t even close(I own and use both) The problem is where people view media, no one gets to see the jaw dropping images with get off our cameras and that’s a freaking shame. Hell even my Flickr pro compresses my gfx jpgs down to 6k, which sucks because it’s now been reduced to a7rv…and compressed
Guys please, don’t fall for the double buffer ram excuse as not being able to do some of the new features back to the OM-1. It’s a PR statement. The OM-1 already can shoot HHHR keeping several RAWs in ram. It is quite understandable the new ND features (and obviously the longer continuous shooting) and perhaps the 14-bit RAWS for HHHR and tripod HR to require the new ram. But improved general AF should be quite doable for the OM-1. If anything, at least investigate/research this and don’t just take a company PR statement at face value. It sounds very fishy, and one of the best ways for them to start to lose customers is to do exactly that: you want better AF / buy a new camera. More so with their promise on their website of keeping your gear current with substantial firmware upgrades and more so when the OM-1 AF regressed in some areas compared to the EM1 MKIII.
I would like the ND filters things of the OM-1 II in the Lumix G9 II ! And I would like also an Hasselblad V digital back which covers the complete 6x6 film size (55x55 in fact), not a crop sensor please ! The rendering of a real large sensor or film is unique ! The rendering of a crop sensor is average... not so different from 24x36 indeed...
Why don't we change the name of everything instead of calling it full frame we just call it 35 mm. And then whatever we need to call the Number for medium format. We just call it a number. So if that number is equivalent to. I think 27 mm or whatever it is we just call it a 27 mm camera and then we call the APC camera23 mm or whatever the equivalent is, we actually call the cameras by the millimetre from the full frame measurement it would make the whole thing so much easier for photographers to understand and for people outside of Photography wanting to get into Photography I think the terminology that we used is actually made it more confusing and more daunting for many people
lets focus a little on the word "full frame" and understand that anything, even a micro four thirds system is a "full frame system" because it was designed that way. All of the typical digital format "medium format" cameras are the APS-C or cropped "standard ratio/size" of the medium format.
FOV would not be helpful as then you'd also need to include minimum focusing distance. This is where normal way of describing focal length is more helpful.
RE: 'field-of-view' degrees... it just doesn't make sense for anything other than 'wide' lenses. Once you go telephoto lens, are you going to tell someone to squint at a subject to visualise a 10° field-of-view?
OM Digital could have integrated some nice FF=>M4/3 speedbooster in that large FF 150-600, then it might be interesting with more light gathering. Pentax 645 is done, they discontinued most lenses selling just some stock and last product was introduced in 2016. They should also quit trying the FF, which relyes on several overpriced rebadged Tamron OEM lenses that are no longer produced anyway.. and just focus on APS-C and make some proper cameras again like in K10D - K5 era.
Capture One is long in the tooth at this point. And I've refused to renew my C1 subscription because they've abandoned my IQ3 on mobile. This also means I've halted any plans to invest in new Phase One bodies and/or lenses. The $$$ I've been setting aside for an IQ4 upgrade will now likely be going toward an X2D and lenses instead. Yes, it's a baby 645 compared to the IQ3, but the image quality is getting there.
Ooooooh, you are in for a RUDE awakening when you start using Phocus instead. More power to you for your choice. Just know that the software is a serious liability (maybe the only one?) for the Hasselblad.
@@luciensims From what I can see online, you are likely spot on regarding Phocus. But the shortcomings of Phocus do nothing to elevate C1 from its own pit of ills. If layoff rumors at C1 are true, it's likely that the guys at Axcel are in the beginning stages of bleeding as much cash as possible out of their C1 investment, before allowing it to slide into obsolescence. Adobe's AI has left C1 (and Phocus) standing in the rearview mirror covered in attic dust. With deep layoffs, I don't see how C1 can ever hope to close that distance.
The value proposition for medium format just isn’t there. Yes I want one but I hate my Canon RF 50 1.2, I think we’ve all become a bit precious when it comes to the weight of gear.
I'm a retired software salesman that has returned to my lifetime hobby of photography in full force. 60 years ago, I hated using a Yashica TLR for my high school year book photos. I could not imagine anyone wanting to go back to that mirror image framing/aiming situation until I heard the idea of a TLR where "T" means "Two" and not "Twin". Interesting idea. I'd give anything to not having to expose my A7R sensor to dust every time I want to change lenses.
And the best motivation I've seen for medium format is Iceland. I came back with the best landscape photos I've ever done using my A7RIV. I since bought a GFX 100S and am doing my best to really start using it to its full capacity before my next trip to Iceland. The sooner the better.
Thanks for a great job guys. Keep it up.
Tim here, I was one with the A9 question. Thank you for answering! Decided to switch to micro four thirds and picked up a G9ii last week. Came to the decision after consuming all your videos about the OM1 and fact Chris uses one for as his work.
Paired with a 20mm/1.7, 35-100/2.8 and 100-300 for far less than my Sony gear. So far living the compact size, makes it easy to carry around and even taken it skiing to get pics of my daughter. This weekend I'll be trying it out t a local ice lake race. Thank you again! Love the podcast!
as someone who exclusively shoots motorsports; either stick with Sony and get an A1 (or A7iv, though I've not used that) or switch to Canon and get an R6ii or R8. In motorsports, autofocus is BY FAR the most important attribute to a camera and nothing out currently can touch a modern (as in release in the last 3 years) Sony or Canon. I love the look of the Fuji and adore all the features Panasonic is including, but their AF is a full generation behind. The Sony/Canon are almost telepathic when it comes to vehicle/helmet tracking. When using a native Sony/Canon mirrorless lens (with the linear focus motor), your in-focus hit rate will be up in the 90%-tile, meaning out of a burst of 20 shots from a vehicle pass nearly all of your shots will be in perfect focus, and you're selecting which shot has the best composition/angle rather than selecting the 2-3 our of the 20 that were actually in acceptable focus, like with other systems with inferior AF tracking. Same goes for video, it doesn't matter how good the video capabilities are, if the camera cannot track a car/bike as it zooms by at +80mph, then it's no good for motorsports application. You can pick up an R8 for $999 from the Canon refurbished store if you're patient and the cheap RF100-400mm lens has amazing tracking capabilities with it's linear focus motor. I've not used an A7iv, but if it's anything like the A1 in subject recognition speed and track consistency, then it too would be a fantastic option if you want to stick with Sony.
We have a very specific need as compared to a portrait for landscape photographer and if you buys the wrong camera, you will be at a significant disadvantage in this genre..
Honestly, I think the Nikon Z8 would be a much better choice than m43, weight and size aside. It's basically a natural upgrade of the a9.
a7IV like Chris said is also a great choice in terms of price, if you don't need fps faster than 10fps.
@@kanaheiusagi Weight size and price. This is all a hobby for me and for the price of a used Z8 body I was able to purchase everything used for the G9ii. So far the autofocus and stabilization have worked well for me as I was able to get pictures of kids and friend skiing while also skiing. Still need to try it at a race but that is a little less demanding of a situation.
@@badshoes As long as your good with your photos. Just sharing, in the past I've used Nikon D80, Olympus EP2/EM5 II, Fuji XT20/XT4 and Sony a7C, and I switched from Nikon to m43 because of weight size and price too. But looking back at past photos, I was the least impressed at the Olympus photos, so I have a grudge against m43, but maybe things have changed a lot since the EM5II. Was the most impressed with the Sony a7C from day 1 and eventually upgraded to the a7IV (which is a huge upgrade from the already impressive a7C).
@@kanaheiusagi So far I'm enjoying the picture quality, and especially Leica monochrome. The AF seems a little less sticky than my A9 but plenty sufficient.
To Chris’ question about why would anyone choose medium format over full frame? Why would you go full frame if you can get the same quality from APS-C?
If you had a 100mp full frame camera, the sensor would have substantially less dynamic range than the medium format.
I think the question is less about sensor size and boils down more to use case and image quality. I think you don’t get a substantial increase in IQ for most use cases in full frame vs. APS-C but a medium format sensor is substantially larger than full frame sensors so one could argue a proportional increase in IQ. This works if this leap in IQ is necessary for your use case. I still believe APS-C is a much more sensible approach compared to other sensors.
The difference in sensor size from APSC to FF is bigger than from full frame to MF. FF to APSC is a 1.5x crop and MF to FF is 1.29x crop.
I have had in my hands on both the latest-greatest ff sensor (Leica SL3) and the Hasselblad x2D, and those saying the difference is not that big,….have not looked properly at these cameras outputs. I preferred the Leica in most categories (viewfinder, autofocus, ergonomics,…) but one critical difference I could not discard was how much better these raw files were from the X2D. Not in terms of resolution, but in terms of Color accuracy, smoothness of rendering, dynamic range,…we are in a totally different league there. The files out of the camera are basically,….perfect. No need for post. I wanted to convince myself the difference was not so big because of the pile of money the system asks for,….but reality is in the picture,….a camera’s ultimate goal is to take pictures, and the ones coming out of this body are hands down the most beautiful I ever got to see
Yes I agree with you. I have the Hasselblad x1d. Way older and compared it with A99ii and A7iv and there is a huge difference. 35mm full frame is convenience but personally I would rather shoot with the Hasselblad even if focusing is slow and shooting is slow and I have to adjust my shooting style. Not everything is about speed and getting things quickly. It’s good to take time to shoot your own photos and slow things down with models or subjects
I have grown really fond of the Fuji GFX100s, which I picked up second hand 2 years ago. The image quality is great, the lenses are great, the files are great for editing, it's just a wonderful camera to use. But you have to use it at its strength, for slow paced photography. If you need fast autofocus tracking, high video specs etc. it's not the right the camera to use.
Sure you can approach aspects of the image quality with full frame, but I love this Fuji more than e.g. the Sony A7iv I also use.
And when it comes to aspect ratios, I really like shooting 65:24 (panorama) and square, which is great on a 102 megapixel sensor, as there is plenty of resolution to work with.
1:02:44 Just for anyone that wants to do this, it is good to set any video scaling options in your editing software to “nearest neighbour”, in other words integer scaling. If you use bilinear scaling the image might not turn out quite right.
Nikon won their lawsuit against RED over internal compressed raw video
Whoa... I didn't hear about this. Wow!
Hey Jordan! Curious to know why you recommend the X-T4 over the X-T5 for video. Is it only due to the X-T4 having the flip screen over the articulated tilt screen of the X-T5 or are there other factors you take into account?
Also, rolling shutter is worse on the X-T5
I would personally think of rolling shutter issues at first. The X-T5 has worse rolling shutter than the cameras with the older image sensor.
XT 5 overheats in heavy application
Rolling shutter and overheating aside. The video quality coming out of the X-T5 just isn't great.
Oversampled 4k causes overheating and bad rolling shutter in the XT5. If you shoot subsampled, you lose a lot of detail, worse in low light and DR. 4k60 is line skipped only on XT5 vs oversampled with a 29% crop on the XT4.
Capture One has not been made by Phase One since 2019. It was spun off as its own company. However, they are both majority owned by the same private equity firm.
Ah. And private equity firms love doing layoffs.
You guys should make a comparison video of the Fuji GFX100 II and the Hasselblad X2D / CFV 100C and focus on the differences in image quality specifically. I think that would be important since from everything I've seen Hasselblad's photos look (actually a lot) more detailed and less digital than Fujifilm.
I can help. As a professional working in the industry I have both systems - the Fuji is far more advanced in terms of range of lenses, optical add ons such as ext tubes, T+S lenses - telephoto with a supposedly 500mm at some point!!- however the Fuji falls down in several areas when compared to the Hasselblad X system - 1st - focal plane versus Leaf - or Central Shutter - in our studio we always reach for the Hass when it comes to portraits - it is quicker to set up than the Fuji - outside though its the Fuji. When it comes to commercial the Fuji and our old Hasselblad H6D100c are still king - image quality - the Hass has more natural colours - lifelike - real - the Fuji is a far more complex machine - it is heavier and takes more time to set up - and there is always the danger that you have either forgot to turn something on or have something turned on or off that you didn't expect - we also have a Nikon ZF for fun and a Leica Q2 Mono - but the Hass will always be the favourite - we also use it on a Linhof Technical - but its fiddly to get right - and takes time - the Hass is not weather sealed the Fuji can work in pouring rain - the Fuji is more robust - but the Hass 907x now with 100c is my personal favourite as it can sit in the palm of your hand shoot with one finger and at waist level - I love it - but if you want a complete system = then Fuji - if you want natural sweet central shutter firing at higher speeds with the new XCD 2.5mm (and same filter size as all of then) the Hass works that in better - do not even think of buying the optical viewfinder for it - it's a gimmick which does not work- also now the 100c comes with a dedicated flash bracket for triggers - something its smaller sibling was unable to do effectively - we use Broncolor and Elinchrom for different purposes and it's now flawless - hope that helps - good luck
@@nelsonclub7722I love my Hassy X1D. It’s so simple to use and that touch screen interface is hard to beat. The colors are nice out of camera. No haven’t had the Fuji medium format but have tried x100 series and had Fuji as my first mirrorless but that interface sucks and I just don’t like the image that much. It is nice but not Hasselblad nice
Diffraction, a problem of physics, will prevent 80mp no less 100mp fullframe sensors from being created. The solution is a larger sensor. Focus stacking and multishot is an option for fullframe. However, capturing the moment, will require one shot, and that requires medium format.
I believe that the key of a future for MF is to be an alternative to film. People that have a high performance Sony, for example, for sports photography and wants to "change" to trigger creativity. The experience of shooting a 907x is totally different, not only because of the camera's form-factor but also because it's 4:3 instead of 3:2 forcing a different compositions. The idea of $63K is new: You can still get the H6D with a 100 big sensor (like Phase One) for 32K and it hit 25K new when introduced, but there was almost no market and Hasselblad dropped it. And that is a problem, the photography market is contracting, so having a smaller market share of a reducing market don't look nice.
I just got a used GFX 50s II with 35-70mm and I am hoping for better weather, but today I was comparing its image quality versus my Q2 Monochrom (also purchased used). GFX at 35mm using Acros mono compared to the Leica full frame and then shooting the GFX at 70mm versus the Q2 cropped to the same area. What I discovered is... I have too high a limit on my credit card and must be suffering from cabin fever madness.
Valid discovery
Considering how often information on TH-cam is influenced by money, I was sick to my stomach with worry when you guys mentioned the OM System releases. With them sponsoring the podcast, my only hope was that maybe you guys would just not comment further on it. Much to my surprise, you were actually forthright with the criticisms from the community. I think that you sugar coated it a little bit, considering the community has their pitchforks ready, but overall I was very impressed. Thank you for being an honest and forthright publication!!!
Wow, hearing that quote “photos should be as boxy or as wide as possible“ was soo cool as this is *exactly* my summary after one year of shooting (almost) exclusively film.
For marco photography I think that tilt shift lenses can also be valuable to move the focusplane.
Thanks guys. I always enjoy your podcast, partly because you often challenge my own prejudices. I am primarily a medium format photographer, and I am a professional photographer. I specialise in large prints (call it fine art if you will, although that’s a bit of a marketing term). My primary camera is still the GFX100, which is five years old. I haven’t updated it to the GFX100ii largely because it is still the same 102MP Sony sensor that we saw introduced with the GFX100 and later the Hasselblads (forget the marketing claim by Fujifilm that somehow the 100ii has a “new” sensor). You started the segment on MF commenting that it only seems to change every ten years or so. For me the last fundamental change was the 102MP sensor. I am thinking the next sea change in MF will be a new sensor innovation, either a stacked 102MP sensor or a Global Shutter. On the last possibility Sony already has a 120MP GS sensor that it some five years old now but has only been available in technical, industrial applications. This will be the next frontier. I’d welcome your views.
Honestly, I think GS will only become appealing to the main MF demographic if or when they get good enough to incur no significant hit in DR compared to your standard BSI CMOS. A stacked 33x44, on the other hand, could be very interesting.
I think, logically, the next big update will be to make medium format cameras have more advanced video capabilities. Not because their users necessarily request it, but to make a model look more attractive for the money you spend than the competition.
@@el_fuckowhat do you think dishonestly?
I’m excited to see a new MFT camera. I’ve been shooting since the film era and have shot with most everything digital…Leica, Fuji, Pentax, etc and never have MFT a chance until recently. Admittedly, I was one of those sensor snobs that said no way and the pictures will look like a 2006 cell phone camera. Boy was I wrong! Fantastic system with affordable lenses and camera bodies all the while fantastic photo quality and features. Honestly, my Leica has just sat in its bag since I got a Lumix GX85 because the camera really IS that enjoyable to use. Threw the Lumix 20mm 1.7 on it and use the L Monochrome mode that Leica helped create for Panasonic…and the heavens open up and the angels sing. Killer BW photos right out of the camera
I actually just traded in my gfx 100s + gear and moved to the nikon zf. After learning what I like to shoot and what I need, I don't really need high resolution, I do need high dynamic range. Although I loved the gfx, it's still quite a chunker of a system. Heavy over all and I really missed the retro handling of the x line. Giving the zf a shot I've been quite happy and have a kit built out that's nice in size weight but still great iq. My gear journey was always a chase between looks handling and bigger and more resolution.. but down the road I found what I really need and what I enjoy :)
I agree 1000% that lenses should be recognised as their FOV (for the image circle (ie extreme corners -- ratio format doesn't matter) when at infinity focus.) What's this confusion about Full Frame Equivalent FOV? That's just FOV (unless you're referring to say DX vs FX mode -- but each of those lenses have their own FOV. FOV is FOV. There is no full frame equivalent thought needed. That's the whole point of using FOV. Grow some, and start using FOV. Everyone will quickly get use to it, just like people have to get use to mm when starting photography, when really it should be FOV all the time from the beginning. FOV is the great unifier. Fuji should jump on it first as they have two main mount lines.
Didn't know Olympus had a 1-400mm lens, that's quite a range! :D
First let me say that I love the podcast and I find the reviews by Chris and Jordan to be both informative and amusing. It also seems to me that Jaron would be an exceptional presenter and posseses great knowledge and experience and should consider making videos in addition to the podcast.
That said, sometimes Chris goes totally off the rails. His desire for a mirrorless TLR is bizarre. Mirrorless and TLR are mutually exclusive. After all the purpose of using a TLR was to provide the ease of use of SLR without the significant vibration and noise of an SLR. And mirrorless cameras have already eliminated the mirror and the associated slap. What Chris seemed to actually want is he ability to look down to view the image. So I would suggest what he really wants is a Hasselblad 503cw with a digital back.
Of course with the tilting screen he could really accomplish that with most mirrorless cameras just by tilting the screen up 90 degrees. This of course is obviously possible with the Hasselblad 907x 100C.
BTW: when you review the Hasselblad 907X 100c I would love to have you include the use of it on a Hasselblad V series camera, perhaps with the 100mm lens.
I whole heartedly disagree with you. A Leica M is a totally different way of shooting and firing at fun as hell. Why not a TLR which gives a unique shooting experience too?
The Leica M actually uses a functional range finder window to compose the image. Your mirrorless TLR will not be using the second lens to compose the image. Will your mirrorless TLR also reverse the image as TLRs naturally do? Are you going to request a mirrorless SLR next? :) @@niccollsvideo
@@g.lindzey3291 Yes. It is essentially just a mirrorless camera with a top facing panel. But now you’re letting pedantics ruin all the fun and joy, which is often what being pedantic does. I think it would be tons of fun.
It sounds like the desire is more for a “modern reinterpretation,” sort of like how Fujifilm has unique OVF technology but are not true rangefinders. You can keep a similar style as a TLR, update and tweak the functionality, and offer a unique shooting experience. Acknowledging it may not be authentic. It’s a good idea because as some of the camera technology plateaus, differentiation can be in the form of aesthetics and unique usability.
You mentioned the a9 having poor video output. @Jordan - if the a9 was your only option for taking video, what settings would you use please?
And another comment, about lens focal length vs field of view: it’s something that I’ve thought about before but for interchangeable lens camera systems that will not work either. Because if the camera system has full frame and APS-C cameras in the same lens mount then already you need to mark your lenses with two different fields of view. Then you get the different crop factors between Canon APS-C and other systems which will slightly change field of view, and then you adapt your Canon EF mount lens to a Fuji mirrorless and it’s not the same field of view anymore. Or mount it on a m43 camera and it’s still narrower.
At least the focal length can be somewhat correlated to depth of field.
Full frame equivalent field of view is the perfect way of measuring equivalence. All removable lens cameras have lenses measured in actual focal length so if compared with different size sensors they need an equivalence to see the field of view in one’s mind’s eye. All fixed lens cameras from phones to Leica Q2 to superzoom bridge cameras always have lens focal lengths converted to equivalent full frame field of view/focal length, hence no conversion necessary because the sum is done for you and printed on the lens. No change needed or if it is, swappable lenses for all sensor sizes should similarly be printed with the full frame equivalent just like compact and fixed lens cameras.
Had been a long time Capture One user, since sessions worked a lot better for my workflow, but had been really disappointed year over year with their lack of feature updates (actually useful features found in LR e.g. subject masking), while over-charging 2-3x more per month compared to LR on a subscription model. Or, charging $200-300 on a license model that forces users to upgrade when a new camera's released the next year is outrageous, (they basically just provide new camera RAW support for less than a year after the licensed is purchased), I had to purchase Capture One 22 (with literally no useful feature updates from Capture One 21) just so I could get RAW support for a7IV.
With how good LR is getting (e.g. AI denoise, better subject detection working with copy and paste), switching to LR is a no-brainer at this moment.
As a retired bomb-technician, I can say that Chris’ hair looked really good today.
I always had the same question re: 1080p video! Thanks for the explanation
A Digital TLR would be fun for street photography!
One thing about Hasselblad is their amazing color science. For me if I added MF it's the Dynamic Range and the Color not necessarily to print super large prints. You cannot beat Hasselblad Color right out of the camera. And with Fujifilm 100ii has 20 film simulations and now with the added Reala When I started photography I was a Hasselblad film shooter. I had 4 film backs loaded with the different Kodak and Fuji colour and B+W films. I switched back and forth on what I was photographing. For me that was essential. But today we are the color editors not like before when the lab did everything for us. Having either of these cameras helps us to have amazing images with a lot less playing and adjusting on the computer. I agree today between FF and MF is so much closer than the old days of 35mm vs 120 film. For me if I added MF with either of these cameras would be so much FUN I have been a photographer for a very long time and it's so more exciting today .
It is exciting what has happened in MF. I came from 8x10 film to digital because of the Fuji GFX 50R, and because Tri-X in 8x10 is now $17 a sheet. I had given up on the medium because of cost. When I started it was $0.75 a sheet, but it got to where I couldn't shoot it like I wanted to. Fujifilm drew me back in with their cameras. I own a 100S now. But I have to say that there is a certain "look," a kind of creaminess that 8x10 film has that I have yet to be able to reproduce with the 100S. I miss it. The 100S makes a great image, but it doesn't have the same feel as 8x10 film. I guess I'm just old.
No just spoiled on what cannot be replaced by digital imagery hahah @@billmarsh7760
Love the content, great variety of topics!
I shot Olympus micro4/3 for years. Rest in peace. These "new" products are sad, as is the name change. I guess Panasonic will lead the micro 4/3 format now.
My X-T5 is the ideal camera for what I do. And then I can fantasise about medium format. Nothing inbetween for me XD. Gutted to hear about Capture One being in a bit of trouble.
I went from X-H2S to GFX 50S II... I use both but I never regretted getting that sweet GFX look!
@@antzpantz Went the other way around. Had the GFX 50R and sold it for an X-T5. For what I do (landscape/hiking and general travel), the X-T5 and the APS-C lenses are much better suited and flexible. And after cropping the X-T5 files to 3:4, they often look very similar to the 50R 😅. Maye it‘s different if you shoot a lot of studio/portrait 😉
So happy with my X-T5!
@@mgscheue It is a wonderous thing. I just cam back from a few hours with it by the coast today. It has some really nice settings in it. I use AutoISO groups a lot. I love how you can set a button to do 'Recall custom 1 settings', which makes that button toggle between your current setup and whatever you programmed in the custom 1 group in the Q Menu. I have my front control dial set so that it changes my exposure compensation or, if I press it, toggles to varying my shutter speed a bit around the current shutter speed setting (both of which work great in low light - I just set shutter speed to something like 1/125 and then that front button can be used to rapidly vary it a bit). All sorts of stuff.
@@mikefoster6018 Great ideas!
150-600 full frame lens on m43 eliminates one of the best arguments for an m43 system. The body is not much smaller (which I am fine with having large hands), but a significantly lighter smaller set of lenses would be great. I moved away from Oly when they sold to OM. I have kept an eye on it from afar but not convinced OM is maximizing their investment in the purchase of Oly. PEN absence also notable. I continue to travel and hike with Fuji and have a Nikon Zf as my fun camera.
Nikon has a rebranded super telephoto zoom lens for the Z system And it’s $1000 cheaper than the rebranded lens just introduced by OM systems, This does not encourage anybody to buy into the micro 4/3 system instead, it encourages those to go full frame with the benefits of full frame.
hi guys thanks for your amazing work, do you really believe in explanation of OM System about the incompatibility between the new function of the OM1 2 on the Om1 1?
Nice one Jordan, you know better, is a visavision sensor with 40.96 x 21.60mm, not an FF with poor 36*24mm ;)
No IBIS on 907X vs X2D
I would do unspeakable things for a digital TLR - I’m with ya, Chris.
Yes! Partners in heinous and degenerate crime!
Don't forget that using the 907x with V series lenses would easily cover a 6x6 image circle, just like the old days.
H series?
I used Red a long time and they have really quite large dynamic range. It is really hard to clip the highlights vs my still cameras. I can capture sunsets that are not possible for me with my still cameras. I use Helium and Raptor currently.
I'm going into an arts school for photography soon and I'm starting to find my old laptop handles photo editing pretty poorly. Is there a good laptop [Mac or Windows] for under $1200 CAD that you guys like best? If it can handle editing 4k video that would be nice too.
Apple m whatever works great with Final Cut pro
Capture one can do wired tethering to ipad and iphone now :) The GFX 100 ii does it wirelessly to an ipad too, i think the xh2s does it with the file transmitter grip too.
Tether tools air sync also works as an external dongle style solution and is apparently less ‘quirky’ than the cam ranger.
I enjoyed the intro. I always just listen rather than watch so it was neat to see the fun and silly intro. Back to listening now.
I think the state is that many people still think there's some "medium format look" on digital cameras and don't really understand the implications of crop factor
I'm guessing the app store Fuji X app rating is heavily weighted by the old version. The new one is hugely improved. And you didn't mention the Leica Fotos app, which is also quite good.
Wait, you can use this on the H series???
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If CaptureOne goes under will users of the existing software licensed thru subscription still be able to run the software when the subscription runs out and needs to be renewed but can’t?
If C1 goes under (they wont) then you just pirate it. I dont say its possible and I'm particularly not saying Im aware of people doing it since they got fed up with C1's move on perpetual licences, and of course I did not heard about it being a really easy process. Just the birds were chirping about it
@@leventebandi More furious on perpetual licences that doesn't update RAW camera support the next year, forcing users to buy a new perpetual license the next year.
Given how they’ve just made Capture One Express unusable, no. And, like many others, I got so fed up with almost weekly email demands to continually ‘upgrade’, always at a (‘discounted’-hah!) price, I’ll have nothing more to do with them.
For the guy wanting to preview images in real time to clients. I’m how about tethered shooting via CaptureOne on iPad for instance?
The digital medium format talk is interesting in that medium format typically gets downplayed vs full frame. It’s ironic because it’s the same type(s) of argument APSC had vs full frame when full frame was less ubiquitous and the ‘expensive digital option.’
I have yet to meet a regular digital medium format user who willingly takes the IQ hit from medium format to full frame unless they have a specific need to address (speed, size, etc). Even as ‘cropped medium format’ it’s hard to go back. As digital medium format continues to drop in price, increase in speed, and gets into more hands, it’d be ironic if full frame is the format that gets squeezed between the economics and size of APSC and the IQ of digital medium format.
Great discussion as always, but more importantly, where did Chris get his Seven Samurai shirt?
I’m pretty sure I got it at Teepublic. They have quite a few nice anime and Japanese themed designs.
In regards to Capture One, I agree - I was confused with how their licensing worked. At the moment, not seeing anything truly compelling to upgrade to the next version
@25:37 @Jordan - Phase One had a fantastic year financially in 2023, and growing in a healthy pace.
I want a TLR too!! Thanks Chris.
Bring on the Z6 III as my next camera. Great tele lenses for wildlife, excellent video. Probably looking to shift away from m43 as my main setup - probably retain a few bits for travel
Would a digital TLR have to have two sensors? Sounds expensive
Late to this party.. enjoyable as always... but... Chris, shichin no samurai t-shirt and Kendo kote? Nice
I read that one of the Sony criteria for the GM lens series was resolution to 100 megapixels
Why nobody speaking about how much better it's the setting, lighting and video quality in Jordan image...
First off it’s not a competition. Jordan does a great job with his lighting but he also lights a smaller area. I like the lighting that falls off onto his shoulders, but I want to light the whole desk and my body evenly as well.
@@niccollsvideo I'm sorry if my comment was rude 🙌
I didn't mean your set was bad, far from that.
You are right about that is a personal decision, and in a podcast with video to illuminate the whole set and desk is better and less fatiguing for the viewer.
Hey Guys,
I'm looking to get a system (laptop) for both photo and video editing on a budget... I am not doing 6k editing... The most will be light 4k with most of my videos being 1080p.
I use the Adobe suite for all my edits and recently been dabbling with Resolve...
I primarily shoot weddings and events video and photography anything with people in it.
Any recommendations??? Maybe y'all can consider doing a session on the ranges of laptops for the different types of creators....
Something for consideration.
Pentax 645z and Panasonic S1R shooter here. Horses for courses is what I have to say. Both these cameras have the cleanest images at ISO100. They beat the Sony A7RV and the Canon R5. The are several parameters where they fall short of the other cameras but when it comes to outright IQ at base ISO, these bodies, along with the GFX100, still rule the roost.
4:3 vs 3:2 is a whole other conversation. MF look is a real thing but the ability to shoot f/1.4 and f/1.2 with full frame is another reason I carry two systems.
45:30 As far as ARRI LF being more popular than the ARRI 65 you do have to considered that their are only 70 ARRI 65 made as of 2020, they are heavy and they can only be used by renting from ARRI Rental. There are tons of ARRI LFs out there which you can even buy and way smaller. It's not like it's a apples to apples comparison.
Pen F Mk II - count me in! (25 MP sensor and weather sealing. Would be enough for me. Or maybe the 20 MP BSI sensor from the OM-1.)
Re dynamic range and hitting limits: the big difference going forward would be displsyHDR, as with HDTV. Four stops. And +1 for a 645Zii!
TLR TLR TLR TLR. Let’s go!!!
LF/higher mp: I think the main need is industrial imaging. Any investment there will ultimately make it's way to consumer/professional imaging.
You forgot Leica Fotos app Hasselblad Phocus and capture one/pilot also souport multiple different cameras
I laughed at your whining about shooting aerial photos with medium format. I assisted the site photographer in the 1970s for a nuclear power plant construction project. We would go up in a helicopter flying about 50 to 200 feet above the deck while he used a Mamiyas RB-67. No image stabilizer, no shutter speeds above 1/400sec. The chopper pilots were all ex-Viet Nam hot doggers. They worked out a dive and rotation technique that scared the hell out of me but the photog came back with amazing high resolution images shot on Panatomic-X that were often blown up to 30x40 inches and examined with a loupe. I learned a lot from that man.
The Sigma clone lens should cost $799 max.
Good job no one is forcing you to purchase one then. No doubt you complained about the price of the 150 - 400mm f4.5, but thousands of people appear to have disagreed with you. I'll bet thousands more will disagree with you with respect to the 150 - 600mm.
The OM1 MkII may be a fairly minor evolution, but it does mean that future OM1 (MkI) firmware updates will exclude added features. The OM1 MkI is now discontinued or "fully replaced" in their words. If there are future firmware upgrades, they will add support for new lenses, and that's about it. Yes, there is a ram upgrade in the new camera (which should have been included with the first version), but I don't believe that all the improvements are dependent on this added ram. Here's a question. How long before OMDS gives up on supporting the OM1 MkII? Will support for this new camera last 2 years too? Or will they add some more ram and "fully replace" the MkII? This question alone keeps me from upgrading to the MkII. Maybe I'll wait for the MkIV.
What about the Leica S medium format? It is an incredible user experience and has some incredible lenses.
As an invested(and very happy) Olympus user: If JIP follows their runout/rundown method ala Sony Vaio laptops, I really hope someone else can buy out OM System and bring life back to the system. I originally thought Panasonic, but they wont make the Olympus lenses fully compatible, which rules them out. Maybe DJI if they run both Hasselblad and OM System brands? DJI is fwd looking and would do a great job me thinks..But probably no chance for the Japanese to sell to a Chinese company.. Who else then please??
I feel that the medium format are supposed to be a slow experience where you think of what you doing, if you want snapshots with Ai, Ar and other CPU genarted features, use your phone.
Pls review cam ranger. I'm so curious!!! :)
I praise the request for a new Pentax 645z. I have one and I love it. Please! Please! Please Ricoh. Just an upgraded 100mp sensor and internal sensor stabilization. That’s all I want. Maybe an internal 1tb storage. I feel have it compete with the Hasselblad X2D, but doesn’t have to be mirrorless.
Capture one is also stopping Capture One Express license.
If pentax came out with a 645zii the only change I'd need to be all over that would be IBIS. A wide angle option like the fuji gf 20-35 would help me dump the fuji gfx100 which I absolutely HATE the experience with.
I think one major "feature" of medium format that hardly anyone (who hasn't worked extensively with 120 film) talks about is how there's a great deal of lens compression that can be introduced in the same field of view, compared to smaller sensors. This is what a lot of photographers who prefer medium format want out of the format, and it's not necessarily related to higher dynamic range or resolution or anything like that. The photos genuinely look different, because a photo taken of the same scene using a 50mm lens on a FF camera and 80mm lens on a 6x7 format camera will have vastly different degrees of distortion/compression owing to the lens.
This is the entire look explained perfectly. I love 35mm but it lacks the magic of a 50mm so I’m really keen to try out the 55mm on MF.
But with Capture One on the rocks maybe it’s better to choose Hasselblad for Phocus.
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@@PetaPixel I'm talking about lens compression, which is completely different from depth of field. To be clear, I've seen this video before and I agree with the general conclusion that the bokeh effect is more or less achievable on FF with an 'equivalent aperture' lens. What's not achievable is having the FOV of a 50mm lens with the compression of a 80mm lens, which is quite useful for street photography or portrait work. Anyway just my 2 cents.
@@fura2554Compression is directly related to field of view. Two systems with the same FoV will have the same level of compression.
My choice for the best “medium format film look” goes with the Sigma Quattro H : despite its APS-H size sensor, the Foveon combined with the magnificent Sigma Art lenses offers the most stunning files ever. All the other Sony exmor cmos sensors all have the same look. Sensor size doesn’t help.
Great show as always, but I can’t help being disturbed by the fact that a media that reviews gear is sponsored by a vendor producing said gear. The 3 minutes of OM system infomercial at the beginning of the podcast is a very awkward moment.
And with that, a mere 2 worthwhile videos out of the last 10
Image quality hasn’t slowed down. The Fuji is sick when it nails focus. A7rv isn’t even close(I own and use both) The problem is where people view media, no one gets to see the jaw dropping images with get off our cameras and that’s a freaking shame. Hell even my Flickr pro compresses my gfx jpgs down to 6k, which sucks because it’s now been reduced to a7rv…and compressed
Hey!!!! Thats it. I'm 10 seconds in. I have nothing more to say at this point.
How, or why, do you track a landscape? [13mins] Earthquake photography is a thing?
Guys please, don’t fall for the double buffer ram excuse as not being able to do some of the new features back to the OM-1. It’s a PR statement. The OM-1 already can shoot HHHR keeping several RAWs in ram.
It is quite understandable the new ND features (and obviously the longer continuous shooting) and perhaps the 14-bit RAWS for HHHR and tripod HR to require the new ram. But improved general AF should be quite doable for the OM-1.
If anything, at least investigate/research this and don’t just take a company PR statement at face value. It sounds very fishy, and one of the best ways for them to start to lose customers is to do exactly that: you want better AF / buy a new camera. More so with their promise on their website of keeping your gear current with substantial firmware upgrades and more so when the OM-1 AF regressed in some areas compared to the EM1 MKIII.
like half of the Leica L mount lenses are also expensive Sigma rebadges
I would like the ND filters things of the OM-1 II in the Lumix G9 II ! And I would like also an Hasselblad V digital back which covers the complete 6x6 film size (55x55 in fact), not a crop sensor please ! The rendering of a real large sensor or film is unique ! The rendering of a crop sensor is average... not so different from 24x36 indeed...
Why don't we change the name of everything instead of calling it full frame we just call it 35 mm. And then whatever we need to call the Number for medium format. We just call it a number. So if that number is equivalent to. I think 27 mm or whatever it is we just call it a 27 mm camera and then we call the APC camera23 mm or whatever the equivalent is, we actually call the cameras by the millimetre from the full frame measurement it would make the whole thing so much easier for photographers to understand and for people outside of Photography wanting to get into Photography I think the terminology that we used is actually made it more confusing and more daunting for many people
lets focus a little on the word "full frame" and understand that anything, even a micro four thirds system is a "full frame system" because it was designed that way. All of the typical digital format "medium format" cameras are the APS-C or cropped "standard ratio/size" of the medium format.
The only thing Om system is doing well this year is sponsoring the petapixel podcast
FOV would not be helpful as then you'd also need to include minimum focusing distance. This is where normal way of describing focal length is more helpful.
19:50 nothing wrong with it in principle - except the price, vs the 150-600 available for other systems. Just feels like a rip off
Make a panoramic medium format camera like the XPan!
Is this podcast medium format? 🫥
Almost 90 minutes? Gotta be large format I'd say.
Then it would probably have been in square aspect ratio 😄
It's a great format.
I would sell every piece of camera equipment I own if Fuji x Hasselblad came out with 65x24 ratio digital xpan. Go WIDEEEEEE
RE: 'field-of-view' degrees... it just doesn't make sense for anything other than 'wide' lenses. Once you go telephoto lens, are you going to tell someone to squint at a subject to visualise a 10° field-of-view?
"Either as boxy as possible or super wide! 2/3 aspect ratio is an abomination!" So true!
OM Digital could have integrated some nice FF=>M4/3 speedbooster in that large FF 150-600, then it might be interesting with more light gathering.
Pentax 645 is done, they discontinued most lenses selling just some stock and last product was introduced in 2016. They should also quit trying the FF, which relyes on several overpriced rebadged Tamron OEM lenses that are no longer produced anyway.. and just focus on APS-C and make some proper cameras again like in K10D - K5 era.
oh yeah, cannot agree more, 3:2 is abomination 😭
Capture One is long in the tooth at this point. And I've refused to renew my C1 subscription because they've abandoned my IQ3 on mobile. This also means I've halted any plans to invest in new Phase One bodies and/or lenses. The $$$ I've been setting aside for an IQ4 upgrade will now likely be going toward an X2D and lenses instead. Yes, it's a baby 645 compared to the IQ3, but the image quality is getting there.
Ooooooh, you are in for a RUDE awakening when you start using Phocus instead.
More power to you for your choice. Just know that the software is a serious liability (maybe the only one?) for the Hasselblad.
@@luciensims From what I can see online, you are likely spot on regarding Phocus. But the shortcomings of Phocus do nothing to elevate C1 from its own pit of ills. If layoff rumors at C1 are true, it's likely that the guys at Axcel are in the beginning stages of bleeding as much cash as possible out of their C1 investment, before allowing it to slide into obsolescence. Adobe's AI has left C1 (and Phocus) standing in the rearview mirror covered in attic dust. With deep layoffs, I don't see how C1 can ever hope to close that distance.
The value proposition for medium format just isn’t there. Yes I want one but I hate my Canon RF 50 1.2, I think we’ve all become a bit precious when it comes to the weight of gear.