Choosing Compex Muscle Stim Device

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  • @hhifnawi
    @hhifnawi 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    super helpful. I wasted hours reading and this summarized everything

    • @CompexAcademy
      @CompexAcademy  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks! The Compex Mini is just launched a couple of weeks ago in the non-US countries, although it was present in the US. So I will make a video about it soon. Regarding this product range, the Compex Mini is a "step in" -device, because it has only 7 programs and is also less powerful than this Compex range in the video. So, you have to list it as a mainstream device.

    • @hhifnawi
      @hhifnawi 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@CompexAcademy Thank you for your quick response.
      Yes this is my take too, this will be my first. My friend recommended Fit5.0 but I do not need that high intensity (I think) and all the programs. Happy to start with Pre warm up, and recovery. Looking forward for your video on how we can best use it.

  • @carlos002nz
    @carlos002nz ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Excellent video. Very didactic. Thanks

  • @jetshark970shark4
    @jetshark970shark4 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This was a great video, I wish I had this 10 years ago, I did years of research and this had everything in 1 video. As an American who got to use the SP8 I have spent years trying to get my hands on one, but can't find one in my price range that ships to the United states. I found some for an affordable price but they didn't ship to the united states 💔

    • @CompexAcademy
      @CompexAcademy  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for the compliment on the video.

  • @WB_evo
    @WB_evo 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    What for rehabilitation of shoulder ? Best option
    All best

  • @rod_r
    @rod_r 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi Arno. I was recommended the SP 2.0 to help rehab after knee surgery where I have atrophy of the quad muscle. I only discovered after I got it that it doesn’t have a dedicated rehab function. Can you advise the best program to use in conjunction with isometric quad exercises to stimulate quad growth. Thanks.

    • @CompexAcademy
      @CompexAcademy  3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Hello Rod, I am sorry to hear that you could have been advised better. But…when you use the program “muscle building” in level 1 than you are very close to the program you need (atrophy). So, choose muscle building level 1 (it’s in the conditioning tab) and you will be good to go! Gradually build every 2-3 weeks to level 2 and 3, and you will have a very nice training plan. This program is also suitable for exercise static & dynamic. Good luck! Regards, Arno

    • @rod_r
      @rod_r 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@CompexAcademy Thank you. Device seems very high quality. Looking forward to using it.

  • @jetshark970shark4
    @jetshark970shark4 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Someone has to explain to me why in the United states they have a dumbed down version but literally everywhere else in the world they have multiple programs. As an American in would really like to try the Hypertrophy, Muscle building, Capillarisation, Muscle atrophy, Reinforcement.
    Also United states version is missing MI-AUTORANGE which I want to know why are all of these available in every single country including Canada and Mexico, but not the United states. I don't get the logic and been trying to figure it out for the past 10 years

    • @CompexAcademy
      @CompexAcademy  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That's easy: The FDA. The FDA in the US limits us the amount of programs and technology to put in the machines. Therefore, we as Compex need to produce different products for the US than for the other countries. We also want to have the same products everywhere, but unfortunately we cannot do that due to FDA requirements.

    • @jetshark970shark4
      @jetshark970shark4 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@CompexAcademy That is my next question why do you need FDA approval? It isn't like compex is a featured medical device in the United states, which is precisely why Americans can't get American version of compex through their medical insurance. Even when Compex/EMPI you still couldn't get compex through EMPI.
      I understand FDA not approving Firm your arms, Tone your thighs, Get a 6-pack, Get stronger biceps, Build your shoulders, Build your pecs, Firm your stomach, Shape your buttocks, Body power, but I don't understand why Muscle atrophy, Reinforcement, Hypertrophy, Muscle building, Capillarisation would be left off American version but Endurance, Resistance, Strength, Explosive strength would be left on?
      I have used the SP8 2 times and the contraction I felt in my quads specifically my VMO was significantly stronger than any program on the compex sport elite.
      I know this was alot, but it would be nice to be able to add Hypertrophy, Muscle building, Muscle atrophy, Reinforcement to the sport elite. Also would be nice if Compex had the ability to bill insurance company especially since they have FDA approval and are used in most physical therapy offices.

    • @CompexAcademy
      @CompexAcademy  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@jetshark970shark4 Basically Compex is a consumer device and not a medical device. Nevertheless we know that medical professionals are using Compex, because it's easy to use and easy to understand, so in Europe we have our products been medically approved. How it works with FDA isn't my specialty, but with a mother company of DJO Global I can assure you that the FDA possibilities and related insurance support is very well investigated and tried. If it was possible we should have done it already, because it would be a huge revenue potential for us. Also launching a universal product should be more beneficial for us. I know it can be frustrating, but it's also frustrating for us.
      About strength of the contraction it's not only the intensity level, but also the program of choice (which muscle fibers are you activating in a contraction). Normally the intensity levels of SP8.0 and Sport Elite should be the same. Maybe you tried different programs. A Reinforcement program is more intense in power than a resistance program for example.

    • @jetshark970shark4
      @jetshark970shark4 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@CompexAcademy Yes DJO global had a company called EMPI which had a unit the exact same as Compex performance model, that billed insurance companies but after DJO shut EMPI down to further promote compex they stopped billing insurance companies for NMES/EMS units. Is there a why to add something like reinforcement to united states sport elite model? I definitely recall there being a significantly stronger muscle contraction with some Programs on SP8 and SP4.

    • @CompexAcademy
      @CompexAcademy  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@jetshark970shark4 I know about EMPI in the medical market, but we also have Chattanooga (made by Compex) devices. How that works in the US with insurance companies, I don't know. It's a decision which will/is made locally at DJO US. Reinforcement is comparable with strength level 1 (same frequency level) which is in the Compex US devices. Almost the same program. Only difference in the relaxation phase (10 sec for reinforcement vs 19 sec for strength), but you'll recruit the same muscle fiber types due to that frequency level. About the stronger muscle contraction I can't say anything meaningful. When I know the programs and type of products you are comparing than I can say something about the comparison. Nevertheless SP4.0 and SP8.0 are the most powerful machines we have.

  • @ahillwarrior4750
    @ahillwarrior4750 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hello, what is about compex energy?

    • @CompexAcademy
      @CompexAcademy  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      The Compex Energy is an older generation device. Its a bit comparable to the SP2. It’s difficult to compare to older generations, but they are close.

    • @ahillwarrior4750
      @ahillwarrior4750 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@CompexAcademy thank you so much. Best regard

  • @popp-de-pop2812
    @popp-de-pop2812 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is there a Kegel placement to strengthen the pelvic floor?

    • @CompexAcademy
      @CompexAcademy  ปีที่แล้ว

      No there isn't. This is a very specific (medical) treatment. Compex only shows general muscle placements.

  • @Glyukah
    @Glyukah 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hi @compexacademy, is it normal that when I use the Motor Point Pen, it feels stronger vs the regular electrode?

    • @CompexAcademy
      @CompexAcademy  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yes, because the surface is much smaller (just the tip of the pen) vs the electrode. So don’t increase the intensity to high when you use the motorpoint. Average only an intensity of 5.

  • @bull5919
    @bull5919 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Well people complain about the sp8 pods falling off vs the wired sp4. Also if something happens to charging dock for the wireless your out of more money

    • @CompexAcademy
      @CompexAcademy  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      There are pros and cons for both. The modules need to be bigger, because of technology inside of the modules and therefore a bit heavier. A charging dock defect is more money outside warranty indeed. But all modules, charging dock and remote are under warranty (3 years when registration website and for SP8.0 WOD edition even 5 years), where for wired devices only the device has 3 years warranty. Cables and battery only 6 months. But your remark also replies for all modern electronics. When something happens with the battery of your Phone you also cannot replace it simple (as in the past), but costs more money. The warranty of the wireless Compex devices are better than the wired in my opinion, so I would always recommend to invest on a wireless if possible.

  • @FootballfanXXL
    @FootballfanXXL 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I have a degenerated calf muscle after an Achilles tendon rupture. Is SP6 or SP8 better for calf muscle atrophy training?

    • @CompexAcademy
      @CompexAcademy  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Both device are suitable, because programs for degenerated muscles are the same.
      So, difference is in technology options, accessories and price. Good luck with the choice.

  • @Glyukah
    @Glyukah 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Is there any big difference between Sport Elite Gray 2024 edition vs Fit 3 besides Mi sensing tech? @CompexAcademy

    • @CompexAcademy
      @CompexAcademy  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yes, the gray edition has more sports programs, where the fit don’t have sport programs . The fit series is for daily activities and the sport gray for people who do sports.

    • @Glyukah
      @Glyukah 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you, is the gray one still good for muscle recovery (athrophy)? @CompexAcademy

    • @CompexAcademy
      @CompexAcademy  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yes it is.

  • @pavapraga
    @pavapraga ปีที่แล้ว

    Arno, a 10 program top of the range Sport Elite device in the US, how can it match a 30 or 40 programs in EU? Expecially on Muscle Pain and recovery? Thanks in advance

    • @CompexAcademy
      @CompexAcademy  ปีที่แล้ว

      It can't. Due to the FDA we are restricted in the number of programs in the US, so therefore we have different devices in the US vs International. The International devices are not only having more programs, but also more options (for example Mi-functions).

  • @florianvonwyl1364
    @florianvonwyl1364 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I had a knee surgery and should now get back to 100% asap and that for I need to rebuild my thigh. Could you tell me if the old fitness would be a good choose for that? Thanks

    • @CompexAcademy
      @CompexAcademy  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It depends which Fitness device we are talking about. We made several Fitness devices in the past. Maybe it's better to look for the specific programs. In your case the following are necessary: Muscle pain/Endorphin (new naming/old naming), Capillarization, Atrophy/Amyotrophy (new/old). Than you have some similar programs, so you need to look for 1 of those: Resistance / Muscle building / Hypertrophy. That are the most important programs, so check the programs of the specific device. Otherwise send me a picture of the device to arno.bosman@djoglobal.com and I can answer if it suit you yes/no.

    • @florianvonwyl1364
      @florianvonwyl1364 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I was thinking about the yellow compex fitness, which is still available on the webside.

    • @CompexAcademy
      @CompexAcademy  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@florianvonwyl1364 This Compex Fitness has the programs Muscle Pain, Capillarization and Muscle Building (Level 1 is close to atrophy), so yes you can use it.

    • @florianvonwyl1364
      @florianvonwyl1364 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thank you for your support.

  • @LeinonenHannu
    @LeinonenHannu 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why is Compex SP 2.0 good for 1 -2 times per week? Does it break if you use it every day? (I think I need only basic programs so better versions are over kill for me.)

    • @CompexAcademy
      @CompexAcademy  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The times per week has nothing to do with durability. It's target group related. The SP2.0 is a basic devices, so suitable for the people who are not that active as athletes, with an avg sport training of 1-2 per week. If you practice sports more, you need a higher level device, because of more programs needed. All devices are very durable and you can be used daily.

  • @zeljkojovanovic3548
    @zeljkojovanovic3548 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Sport Elite or SP 4.0?

    • @CompexAcademy
      @CompexAcademy  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      In options and programs no big difference. SP4.0 is a newer product with the most recent platform. Programs are named differently for understanding better what it does. I would choose a sp4.0 because of that. But when you have a limited budget, a sport elite is a nice alternative.

  • @POLPO_WOOD
    @POLPO_WOOD 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dankje voor de video, maar een ding is heel erg onduidelijk voormij. Waarom zou een apparaat bedoeld zijn voor 1x per week? Je kan een SP 2.0 toch ook 4x per week gebruiken? Het programma blijft het zelfde. Ik wil graag een paar keer per week “endorphines” programma doen onder “Pijn”. Onder welke categorie Compex zou die dan vallen? Fit of SP? Alvast bedankt

    • @CompexAcademy
      @CompexAcademy  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hallo Han, de 1x per week heeft niets met gebruik te maken, maar met doelgroep. Door het beperkt aantal programma’s en het aanbod van programma’s is dit toestel bedoeld voor mensen die gemiddeld 1x per week sporten. Het is dus voor een algemeen doelgroep. Voor ervaren sporters heb je een ander model nodig, vandaar dat we dat aangeven in het aantal keer dat je sport per week. Het is dus een indicatie voor doelgroep. Het toestel kan je zo vaak gebruiken als je maar wilt er zit geen restrictie op. Veel plezier en gewoon lekker gebruiken zo vaak je maar wilt.

    • @POLPO_WOOD
      @POLPO_WOOD 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@CompexAcademy Dankje voor het snelle antwoord. Maar ik sport meerdere keren per week, maar wat is dan de meer waarde van een toestel dat meer programma's heeft. als ik een debetreffende spiergroep wil stimuleren om de doorbloeding te bevorderen of herstel. heb ik toch niet verschillende programma's nodig? Ik overweeg om de SP 2.0 te halen.

    • @CompexAcademy
      @CompexAcademy  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Hallo Han, ik zal je een voorbeeld geven. Op een SP2.0 zit alleen het programma “herstel na training” en niet “herstel na wedstrijd”. Die laatste gebruik je wanneer je hoge verzuring heb gesport. Dus op een maximale intensiteit. Mensen die 1x per week sporten doe. Die maximale inspanning meestal niet, dus vandaar dat hij niet op de SP 2.0. Het verschil is dat bij een hoge verzuring in de spier, herstel na training niet prettig is en herstel na wedstrijd wel. Zo mist de sp2.0 ook bijv een revalidatie programma “atrofie na immobilisatie”. Voor frequent sporters die soms sportblessures oplopen kan dit interessant zijn. Mijn advies is: kijk welke programma’s jij belangrijk vindt en of die op het betreffende apparaat zit. Een vergelijking van de programma’s kan je hier vinden: www.compex.com/nl/compex-sport-range

  • @pero8647
    @pero8647 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi Arno. I have calf muscle atrophy on the right leg. Which model do you recommend for it. Thanks

    • @CompexAcademy
      @CompexAcademy  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Hi Pero, if your are living in the US, than you need to look for the program pre-warmup and resistance. If you are living elsewhere, than you need to look for capillarization and atrophy program. When the atrophy is recent, than you can start with atrophy (in US resistance) program. If the atrophy is there for a long time, start with capillarization (in US pre-warm up). The products with atrophy + capillarization are from the mid-segment and higher. So suitable are Fit 3.0, 5.0 & SP 4.0, 6.0, 8.0.

  • @LeinonenHannu
    @LeinonenHannu 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    What about compex mini wireless?

    • @CompexAcademy
      @CompexAcademy  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The Compex Mini is a "basic" device (in the category Fit1.0 / SP2.0), although it's app connected. It has limited programs (6x) and also the intensity power (0-299) of the Mini is less than the current Compex range (0-999). Approach it like the video: who's going to use it and what programs do you need. The intensity level is sufficient for recovery. For training it's sufficient for regular training. Serious sports people who are focused on performance will need more power.

    • @CompexAcademy
      @CompexAcademy  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      By the way: you can also see it as a 2 channel device, so for 2 muscle groups at the same time. The current range all have 4 channels (except the Fit5.0-2 Channel), so you can us it on 4 muscle groups at the same time.

    • @LeinonenHannu
      @LeinonenHannu 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@CompexAcademy Can the limitation of intensity power be overcomed by using it more often? Shorter recovery time? Maybe two times a day? Think of Pavel Tsatsouline style of training?

    • @LeinonenHannu
      @LeinonenHannu 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi, just so that I would understand how Compex mini intensity is lower. In user manual specs say that compex mini output is 144 mA?

    • @CompexAcademy
      @CompexAcademy  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@LeinonenHannu That's a difficult one. The max output is the measured peak output. Power is basically the mA output over the full length of the contraction. So when you have a contraction of 6 seconds and you'll have a peak of 144mA for 1 second and than drops to 80mA for the other 5 sec for example, than the max output is 144mA, but doesn't reflect to the exact power over the 6 seconds. The other Compex devices with 120mA can sustain that over 6 seconds, so are more powerful. The requirements of the market demands us to show the max output, but basically doesn't say anything practically. Therefore Compex made an own intensity scale, which reflects the power better. The Compex mini has an intensity level from 0-299 and the other devices of Compex from 0-999, so they are more powerful. I know it's confusing, but look at the intensity number of Compex and not at the mA. And 999 isn't always needed for normal use. For (extreme) sport use it an be beneficial to have 999.

  • @MegaBakuMon
    @MegaBakuMon ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi Arno. Is there a strength output difference between the devices? Also, If I put the device on max while laying on a bed will it create a muscle contraction strong enough to lift me a little?

    • @CompexAcademy
      @CompexAcademy  ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi Alon, the SP and Fit range (in US: Edge, Performance, Sport Elite, Wireless USA) are having the same output strength (Intensity 0-999) and are the strongest with a max of 999. The compex mini has a lower output (0-299) and the CoreBelt has an output of 0-200. If the muscle reaction create a lift of the leg, is depending on what contraction intensity you can coop with, because you need high intensity levels. BUt I advise to start conservative and first learn to activate muscle in a comfortable way, before you start to find your max tolarable intensity level. I recommend you a device with a 0-999 intensity level in that case.

  • @myk2205
    @myk2205 ปีที่แล้ว

    The warranty argument for the wireless version is so funny, like you're trying to sell it more. It makes no sense

    • @CompexAcademy
      @CompexAcademy  ปีที่แล้ว

      Everybody has the right for his own opinion. I am curious what motivated argument you are having for this statement.