DON'T GET SCAMMED! Benchmade bugout 535 vs. Fake Benchmade Bugout 535
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- Don't get scammed like I did! fake #benchmade #bugout being sold on eBay as being not only "real" but even new. I hope this video can help out anyone out there so you don't get scammed!
the main issue I have is I wanted a 2nd bugout to modify, that is when I got scammed. not knowing enough about knives, at the time, I didn't want wnyone to go through the same issues. I hope the information helps in anyway!
2023 edit: Yes, I get Benchmade has increased their prices. Yes, I get it you rather an unsafe made in China version. Yes, I get it that ebay has alot of scammers. I think you are missing the point. If one of these makes you want to comment on the video, then you are missing the point. I got scammed on ebay. I was sold a fake bugout, when I had pictures, and descriptions saying it was "real". I also paid close to the real price. if you go out of your way to find a fake bugout, that's your choice! if you want to only pay 20 bucks for one, great! I was under the impression it was real when I got mine. I made the video for people who got scammed like me, whether it's ebay, or the guy next door, to have a place to see what the fakes look like vs the real thing. please leave your "clones are better" comments somewhere else. thank you. - เพลง
2023 edit: Yes, I get Benchmade has increased their prices. Yes, I get it you rather an unsafe made in China version. Yes, I get it that ebay has alot of scammers. I think you are missing the point. If one of these makes you want to comment on the video, then you are missing the point. I got scammed on ebay. I was sold a fake bugout, when I had pictures, and descriptions saying it was "real". I also paid close to the real price. if you go out of your way to find a fake bugout, that's your choice! if you want to only pay 20 bucks for one, great! I was under the impression it was real when I got mine. I made the video for people who got scammed like me, whether it's ebay, or the guy next door, to have a place to see what the fakes look like vs the real thing. please leave your "clones are better" comments somewhere else. thank you.
Yo.... Why didn't you just return it?
@@bladesandbows1521 I did return it. But I figured while I had to wait for the sales person, and ebay to get on board, I'd make this video. But yes I do not have it anymore.
@Johnathan Jeusik Oh OK. I guess by your reaction. I thought that you got screwed over and stuck with that knife... Well I am glad you were able to return it. . Here's hoping that there are no more people trying to bamboozle on ebay... I doubt it though.
@Boys and our Blades! at first I wasn't sure. They were giving me kinda a hard time and not getting back to me. But eventually they did. And there's still a ton of scammers on ebay. But I have also bought my fair share of legitimate knives from ebay too.
The bugout Benchmade is crap and everyone is getting ripped off
Good video and yours is the first to show the foam peanuts that Benchmade packs with the knife. I have been ripped off too many times from ebay, always a struggle to get your money back too not to mention the stress and I pretty much gave up on ebay because of it. My peace of mind is precious, I find a friendly local dealer and buy from there.
I appreciate the kind words! I'd hate when people rip off others. One thing if I spent 30 bucks thought it was real. But I spent like 120. And it was fake
amazing details explained! Thank you so much!
I'm glad I could help!! I appreciate it!
Good job on the comparison. You pointed out things that I havn't seen on other platforms here on TH-cam.
I appreciate that! I wanted to be a detailed as I could
You saved me from a bad purchase! Thanks a lot bud! Awesome video!
Thats amazing! I'm so happy I helped! That's the whole reason I did this video!! Where was the scam??
Doing the Lord's work here my man. Thank you!
Hey I appreciate that! I don't want people to make the same mistake I did.
There are newer clones that are even harder to tell the difference now too btw
Any ebay seller that sells fake knives should have their account deleted and never be able to sell there again. Don't buy fake knives you won't be able to sell it for a dollar. Just send it back and get your money back and report the seller.
According to wish, they don't allow counterfeit or cloned items. 😂
It's a Federal offense to knowingly sell a counterfeit product! You can get busted then sued by whatever company the counterfeit is represented as made by. The counterfeit should not be returned to the seller and should be destroyed. If returned to seller, they will use it to scam someone else. You can get refunded from Ebay/seller without returning the counterfeit product.
@@johnruiz6743 That is interesting. I reported many of them that were clearly fake and ebay did nothing about it. Only switchblades and out the front knives which I usually don't report unless I think they are fake. Very seldom see that but I saw an out the front Benchmade new and way too cheap so I reported that and they did take that one down but not the other fakes. Ebay is only thinking of the fees they collect I guess. I am an ebay seller.
Thanks for the vid.Very helpful,don’t have to apologise because I can tell I would be waaaay more pissed if this happened to me.Allways but from reliable and certified dealers.
Gracias por el video, justo hoy voy a comprar una Bugout y me siento más seguro viendo esta comparación
I learn the lesson with a spyderco paramilitary 2 I bough one fake at ebay , from that day I get my knifes at official stores / retailers
I 10000% agree with you! It just sucks. I have sold legitimate knives on ebay. They were used, but I would never sell a fake personally. But I know that's me. I also have bought real knives off ebay. But it's the scams that just get me pissed off.
I liked this video bc I just got a Bugout and was worried bc I got it off Amazon. After watching the full video with mine in hand I am now certain I have a 100% legit Bugout. Thanks bro. This was a great but long video. It needed to be though. And sucks I got scammed.
I did get my money back. But I really don't want anyone else to get scammed like I did. I know my videos can be long but I really try to be as informative as I can. I'm glad you liked it. And Amazon does sell real bugouts. But I know people get scammed. And the problem is the scammed use the real photos. I actually just got scammed again with a different bugout. Got my money back, and because the seller wouldn't respond I actually now own the fake bugout. I want to make a video with it. But im glad I helped man!!
It’s best to buy from a Benchmade Premium dealer
Your clone is actually much easier to tell. They made improvements. But a good tell is when you close the blade, you can see the full lettering of the Benchmade whereas on the fake it's covered a little bit. The screws on the top of the handle are a good tell too. They aren't covered on the fake but on the real one the top screw of the pocket handle is covered. But even with boxes, they're just swapping them with real boxes too.
On the boxes, always check out the “C” in Benchmade. The fonts are often different and the “C” is the most obvious. Just one more indicator that the knife you are examining is an imitation.
Thank you!! I appreciate a legitimate comment that helps and doesn't just bash on people for buying from an ebay listing, or buying a benchmade in general!
My clone has those lines and has the same gap and everything. They definitely made improvements to the clone.
You just saved me $130 thank you!
That means alot! Thank you, I get so many people so mad at me, for 1 reviewing a bugout, 2 talking to much, 3 saying that the "clone" is better, and 4 just people upset that Benchmade raised their prices. This is truly why I made this video is to help people. We're you about to get scammed on one??
Thanx for the video sorry for bs this brought you. I think but not totally sure that I got taken on a spyderco dragonfly but didn't really look into it. The safe thing to do when getting a knife is going to big name dealers like blade HQ knife center white mountain etc. Take care.
I agree! 10000% I actually mostly stick with actual legitimate sellers. That's where I got the 1st one. The whole thing about the 2nd one was I didn't want to spend full price to modify it and ruin a brand new knife. I also didn't know enough at the time, and also didn't even know that people made fake copies of knives. I been into knives very very casually for years. But really only knew about CRKT, Buck, gerber and like your Smith and Wesson type knives. So when I really started to dive head first into the knife world that's when the benchmades and spydercos came out of the cracks. Now I know there are thousands of knives. But my main point of this video is to document every detail I could so someone else dosent get the same scam.
Boxes even from benchmade can be a little different from each other depending when they packed it. So don’t just go by the box and just buy from a reputable seller/dealer if you want the real deal.
The coffin foam is always the same though. They do that on purpose cause the counterfeiters cannot duplicate that foam pattern. Haven't seen it successfully done yet.
What pisses me off is that here in Australia a Benchmade Bugout costs around 210 US (300 Aussie) dollars. That pisses me off, that a piece of cheap crap like that is so overpriced. A clone costs 21 AUS $. Please, tell everyone that US products are not that great, with plastic scales, nearly non-existent liners, ordinary pocket clip, and S30V that is good, but not great. If it cost US$ 80, I would consider buying the original, but no more than that. I can buy 14 clones with that money.
Completely agree. Locally, the griptilian sells for less and is a better knife that is ALMOST justifiable.
On the 535 Bugout the 3 is different, on the real one the 3 has a straight line on top on the fake it’s curved.
I won’t buy anything from EBay. I got my Bugout from bass pro.
Great video, unless you have a real box/knife to compare it to it would be hard to detect some of the things you pointed out. So don’t beat yourself up too much over not seeing the tells in photos on eBay. Those sellers should be banned. You mentioned you had another knife that is your favorite, what is it?
The clip is 1/4" longer on the fake too.
You earned a sub from me, good video.
Thank you!!! I appreciate that!!
Nice work on the video. These are many of the cues I use to detect the fakes. Even looking at eBay right now, there are tons of fakes listed and just as many in already sold listings. I've reached out to a few sellers but most of them ignore and let it sell anyway (either because they don't believe me, don't care, or know it's fake). Reporting the listing as fake goes nowhere just for a one-off listing.
This is stealing/lying and it pisses me off just as much as you.
That's my exact point!!! So many people on here have missed that and I keep getting the "my clone is better". My issue is the lying and scamming people. So thank you for understanding
I think your clone was a bad one. Because... I had one clone I purchased for fun for comparison like this video, and it almost match the real thing, including the S30V stamped in black and the thumb screw being gold (my clone was the sand color), and the color of the box being bright blue with dark lines, very sturdy too, all fonts are correct. Knife also have this satisfying SNAP when opened or folded. I also watched a video on durability for the fake and it is durable. So maybe there are different quality for knockoffs as well. My fake did come with an oversized pouch tho, just like this video 🤣.
Disclaimer: I'm not a fan of knockoffs.
Edit: Also.. if you bought the fake very cheap on ebay, you gotta know instantly that its going to be a knockoff, right? Even used, the real thing won't sell that cheap. Or did the ebay guy sold it to you with price of the real thing (more than $100)?
I haven't seen make fakes that have been strong. Even the 2nd fake I bought of the s90v version the carbon fiber splintered and snapped. And yes both versions I paid for, were very close to the real price. This fake was over 100 bucks. The s90v version that was a fake was 220. That's why I was pissed off when I made this video.
@@johnathan.jerusik yawh, it's kinda justified then to get pissed 😅. Mine fake looked better than yours and it's just about $30 in the local online market where I come from (I'm from a S. E. A country, Indonesia). Maybe y'all should buy your sturdy fakes where I bought mine n avoid those eBay sellers 🤧
Ebay told me that 90 percent of the high end knifes from private sellers are fakes. Ebay said only to buy from major retailers that use eBay if I want to be sure. The guy I talked to was saying think about how many people out there that are carrying fakes in their pockets. Most of these fakes he said come from Hong Kong area.
Thats crazy! I have bought 4 or 5 knives from ebay. 2 were fakes and both were benchmades.
@@johnathan.jerusik ya. I just pay a little more and use knife center or bladehq. It's worth knowing you have a real one.
@@brettsadler4211 typically I use dlt, blade hq, knifecenter, American edge, and deadwood knives. Or direct buy like quiet carry, or trm. But some are so hard to find and ebay has been the only place. I have had only bad luck on ebay with benchmades
I refuse to pay $235 Au for this knife,thank you to my alternative supplier for saving me $200.👌
lol
For real I just can justify paying that much money for a knife. I don't care what name comes on it.
I agree, but it is artistic theaft
That’s not a very good clone there, I’ve seen some that are identical other than the real one has more rigid handles.
I've had the same experience with a "Benchmade" 945bk-1 on Ebay. They passed it off as the real thing but are actually selling $30 fakes. I can't imagine how you'd sleep at night knowing you sold someone a $30 product for $171. Now the clones aren't necessarily bad knives, in fact, the fake knife was actually pretty decent, but I'm not paying a premium for not so premium materials.
I have heard there are different qualities of clones. But to me, I am also a musician. I build guitar pedals on the side. The pedals I build are sometimes clones of other pedals. But the difference is, I don't hid it. I don't make it look like the original, and I am very clear in my price that I'm not over charging someone. But I keep a good quality in my clones. Now I get knives you can't really do that the same. But, I just got scammed on ebay 2 more times recently. One was on a bugout with the carbon fiber. The pictures that were used was for the real version. So theres no way of knowing. I did get my full money back, but the seller never responded to me or ebay and I kept the knife. The carbon fiber scales, which could be fake CF, already are cracking and I didn't even use the knife. I was holding it and gave it a squeeze to feel how rigid the knife was. I also got scammed recently on a set of "CF-Elite" scales. The seller I don't think knew anything but they were so cheap im not going to make a big stink. But those scales are so flimsy I can almost bend them in half without trying. I don't get how anyone can sleep at night screwing people over. Especially when we are in this day and age with everything being outrageous in cost
@@johnathan.jerusik Yeah I agree. I don't think it's right to pass off one of the clones as a real Benchmade especially if you're going to be charging someone for the real thing. The sellers could at least admit it's a clone, tell you what steel it's made of, and tell you the materials the parts are made of, and they would get the same amount of money as they would charging $100-$200+. More people would buy a clone because it's like test driving a Ferrari before buying it. Most people want a cheaper Benchmade clone because they want that feeling and functionality without the price. I know this because a lot of my friends like Benchmade knives but can't afford one so I told them about some clones and they were all over it. They all bought their own clones and they love them and the knives haven't had any major issues besides the action sounding gritty but they couldn't complain cause they snagged them for $30-$40 each. Now if you start to charge $170+ for that $30 Chinese knife, that's a freakin' problem and you should be ashamed. Someone was looking forward to receiving a real Benchmade knife and got severely disappointed.
@@blossomingpoot044 that's the exact issues I had!!! This one I paid over 100 dollars for. I think I was like 120ish. And the other one I paid 220 for! I agree if it's said upfront. But I also don't think they should be using benchmades logos. That's another issue.
@@johnathan.jerusik That's the other thing. Using the Benchmade logo on the knife when it's not licensed or made by Benchmade is a copyright issue and should be addressed. Now I've actually seen sellers on AliExpress make a bugout or mini bugout knife but they put their own logo on it and admit it's a knockoff of the real thing. That level of integrity and honesty is respectable.
@@blossomingpoot044 that makes more sense. I'm curious the quality difference between the 2. My collection has changed alot. I carry a benchmade bugout pretty much everyday. After I watched the DBK videos with them using a bugout too baton through a log and have no issues, I figured it's more that fine for an EDC. I have had knifes between 20-600 dollars. And the bugout isn't too bad of a price. Especially if you buy through a place like dlttrading.com where you can gain points on your purchases.
I knowingly bought a clone from china for 22 bucks it took 3 weeks but I love it
Is there a difference to rest an orange?
May I ask you to elaborate on your question?
wish I would of seen this weeks ago. sadly I was gotten for one of these clones...
I'm sorry man! Did you get your money back?
@@johnathan.jerusik unfortunately I have not. I purchased it from a matco tool salesman who sells knives on his truck. I wont see him till he comes back to my work Thursday. im really hoping I can get my money back. i paid 160 dollars for it. Im beyond bummed out over it all.
When I see an obvious fake posted as an auction and it's getting bids I like to check back to see the feedback and it's almost always positive.
There was/is an obviously fake Mamba on there recently (for $500) and just to mess with the guy I asked him if the liners were magnetic (ignoring that the scales were G10 instead of CF) and when he said yeah I told him the real ones are titanium and titanium isnt magnetic (practically speaking). He said they were made with a "super strong magnetic titanium mix".
The entire "unpaid corporate attack dog" subset of the knife community doesnt make any sense to me. I have worked with a few custom makers in the past whose designs were counterfeited and their reactions varied from amused to flattered. They knew that they were never gonna lose a single customer to the counterfeiters, yet I've seen people on forums write novel length, vitriol filled (read: racist/xenophobic/jingoistic) posts "in support" of those same makers.
It's just crazy people would do stuff like this. Every photo showed even a legitimate bugout. It really pissed me off. Luckly ebay stepped in and I got my money back. But its annoying people would do this
you can never be certain on ebay. That really sucks man. Ebay is pretty good though. I got a fake romeo5…i didnt know there were fakes.
Ebay took care of that too, and I learned my lesson
That's very liberal of you! Whenever you don't agree with someone, just call them a negative name ("racist/xenophobic/jingoistic"). I am surprised that no one exposed you for what you really are, a "talking point" leftist with a political agenda. I am actually very surprised that you did not take a jab at conservatives by blaming Trump for the clones! Johnathan Jeusik states in his own post that he make fake, ehm...clone guitar pedals and you give him a bye on that one. Yeah, just look the other way... I bought a clone, I knew it was a clone and I am getting great satisfaction from my knife! Don't make a purchase of something you know nothing about and pay top dollar for it. It makes no sense! Jeusik, you got scammed and you are pissed. I get it. Just don't blame the world for your ignorance on the subject. Good lesson learned for the believers and unbelievers alike.
It’s all good. They make clones of everything these days. No reason to get upset or destroy the knife. Just use it as normal. It’s actually well made and based on a solid design. Only a few differences, nothing that hurts the performance. That way at least you get your money’s worth. Or maybe give it to someone so it gets used.
Also, believe it or not, if the axis card isn't under the clip on the knife, it might be a fake.
I didn't think about that!
These clones are great for the money. Just picked up three today for a lot less than I would pay for a real 535.
If it works for you great! If you watch the DBK guys they actually put the bugout and a clone to the test. It was interesting the results
@@johnathan.jerusik There's not just one clone though. There are many. I picked up three today, but two are from one manufacturer and one is from another. I've seen these get tested and some are really good. And as you mentioned, so may not be so good. Not worried about it one way or another though. I paid something like $12 each so even if they're total garbage, I can just use them as junk knives to beat on.
You are contributing to people stealing intellectual property. That is not right. If I create something I should not have my ideas stolen by someone so they can make a copy or a cheap ripoff. If I write a song and someone copies it without my permission and compensation, that is a crime. The same principles apply to manufacturing .
@@chrisbynum4940 I agree with you. I don't feel it's right or safe
@@chrisbynum4940 I received all 3 recently. If you didn't know they were clones, you couldn't tell the different. However, the real ones retail around $175, and the clones cost about $12. Great deal.
Are the screws on the fake one metal please?
Yes, but not very good. Metal has different grades. And the fake did not have a good grade of metal for the screws, clip, and other parts.
@johnsthan.jerusik Thanks 4 the reply 🙏
I bought a fake bugout from TEMU and I love it, At $13.00 I don't care that it's a fake.
The point I was trying to make wasn't you know your buying a clone. It's about people selling fakes, claiming they are real, and charging almost new prices.
When it comes to knives, I only purchase from the actual Mfg. Not Amazon and damn sure not from eBay. I completely appreciate what you're saying but if your not familiar with the actual packaging procedures how would you know the difference on the box. I ask as a learning point not to be sarcastic in any way. Thank you.
The main issue is, the scammes are using real photos. And if you message them they will say "it's real" and yes 100% true! I had no clue about the box differences and now that I do, it's very obvious. But that's also why I made the video to show every bit of evidence I could so others do t go through the same. I do sell on ebay alot and I would never personally sell a fake. I know I'm 1 vs many. But I have got non fakes off ebay too. I try to stick to legitimate sellers, but the whole point of the 2nd one was to mess with it and modify and have fun with it. I hope I answered your questions?
Hmmm.... My bugout did not come in a box with a bag. It came in a hard plastic encasing.
Really? What model was it??
@@johnathan.jerusik Bugout 535CP
@@NeoWahNah not familiar with that model. Is it a custom part?
Another video had the real knife grind going to the handle. The fake had the gap.
They may have changed it up a bit. But this was the 2 I had.
How much did you pay for it? I see a lot of these on ebay for $30-$40...if that's what you pay for it you should know it's a clone.
I normally would 100% agree ilbut I paid almost 120 bucks for it because it was a auction.
Where did you purchase and how much did you pay for it
The fake was off eBay, and I paid around 100-110? I can't 100% remember. I have gotten my money back since. I tried reporting the seller but they vanished.
@@johnathan.jerusik the price was the giveaway. 100 for a 150 dollar knife, a.third of the price discount is hard to believe. I've been burned on ebay myself and you learn to spot the BS real quick
@@MrKinghuman 2 things. 1 the bugout prices at the time I bought the fake were around 130ish. So I didn't think much of that. 2 the pictures that were shown appeared to be of a legitimate bugout. Like they owned a real bugout, took the pictures of that and used those photos. That's how I was able to get my money back because the pictures didn't match the photos.
Why not send it back? Report it to eBay?
I did. Got my money back. Just wanted to make people aware.
Thing's awesome for a clone as long as you're paying clone prices and know you're buying a clone .
Even at a lower price it is far more worth it to get a budget knife at or close to that lower price. Clones as just about trying to look as much like the original as possible. Quality is not priority for them at all and who knows what steel or other materials you are actually getting. Though a Benchmade is higher quality then a budget knife they can still be excellent quality for what you pay for as they still focus on quality and you know what you are actually getting. With companies like Civivi, QSP, Kizer and more out there I just do not see the point of ever buying a clone no matter the price
yeah but this dude got scammed the dude paid top dollar! why do you think he's so pissed off?? go find fake benchmade for 20 or 30 dollars./.. good luck, kind of defeats the purpose of going thru the headache of making a clone.. right?
Try to get spare parts to the real thing, and what do you expect for 30 $ ?, don't get me wrong, I've got the BK 2 and paid 155 euros.
I apologize for my ignorance. I don't quite understand your comment? Also I paid 110 or 120 usd for the "fake." The listing didn't say it was a fake or anything. It was labeled as a genuine Benchmade.
@@johnathan.jerusik A backspacer to your bugout is a good investment and the balance in the knife is much better too 😁😁
@@michaelfuxeklint4909 I actually will look into that! Probably strengths it up a lot too
Buy at a known official store then you can be sure its real.
China just couldn't copy the price! Much smaller, I prefer the one from China!
Need to watch this video without sound :)
I apologize for the sound.
@@johnathan.jerusik It's not a sound problem, it's just show you video without sound and your voice to chose the knife :)
just got a fake and returning it
I'm really sorry to hear that. It's no fun getting a fake
@@johnathan.jerusik I'm returning it. Then reporting the seller once I get my money back. I got a used real one in the real box with seals and right foam packaging. Fuck these sellers
The clone is about as good as the original I will take the clone for $20
I have many benchmade's and i have never got peanuts in my box and i can say im a fanboy so i have many benchmades and never peanuts in the box . Are you sure the second one is real? Lol juast saying!!!
It was fake. Manny markings let me know. I still long my benchmades. But yes that was a fake one.
That's what happens when one buys stuff off of eBay.
You know, I wasn't going to say anything because I have addressed this issue a few times I other videos. But im just going to say that's a rude comment. No one deserves getting scammed. That's why I posted this video. I have helped a few people and have gotten thank you for helping other against bad purchases. I'm sorry if the video isn't for you, but you can keep your comments to yourself please
@@johnathan.jerusik That wasn't meant as an insult to you. I just find eBay to be a hot bed of counterfeiters and scammers. They are very good disguising their deception until customers end up with some cheap knock off after having paid the retail or nearly retail price of the real item. Sorry if I hurt your feelings.
ABSOLUTELY... ABSOLUTELY.. ABSOLUTELY.... BEAUTIFUL FAKE!!!!!
The real Bugout is a scam. Buy a Hogue Deka instead.
I agree!! My house deka was amazing!!
. . . Not that I'd turn down a Benchmade. I'm just cheap.
@@IanFollett hey the deka with 20cv is only 150, where the bug out that isn't as sturdy, and not as nice of a blade is like 200 bucks. It's crazy. I actually trade my bugout for a spyderco g10 native 5 in M4
The original sounds like crap aswell 🤫
300$ pride is not good enough for mass quantities. They bang those out for $20. The clone probably $10. Get yourself some hilsberg knife clones. You have to give it up to the mill work and cnc in China. Those are perfecttttt
K?
K what?
@@johnathan.jerusik K?
I do agree with you about never by the fakes they are just ripping benchmade off. Like you I'm pissed too. But I'm here to inform that just because you tell your pedal customers your pedal is a ( clone) of originals. You sir are still ripping off the pedal company. You are selingl same copy of there's for less. That's counterfeiting too. Taking money away from company that work for. I will be talking the legal depth tomorrow . You right I'm pissed. Video is a joke.
Ok I'm not getting if your mad at me, or the video I made, or that people are making clones?
The rip-off one is the genuine one, if you ask me. These Bugouts retail for around $300 in NZ. Heard of the "butterfly tax"? It's quite outrageous the prices Benchmade charge. The clone looks bloody good, to me.
Benchmade def is similar to Apple in that some of your cost is the brand name itself but it really is not as much as people think. A lot of it is just about higher quality and not just that the materials themselves are better but things such as heat treatments, finishes, milling, etc. is better. Even if you go to brands that are similar in quality they are honestly close in price but lucky enough there are many good brands that sell budget knives that smash these clones in quality as they are not trying to fool they are just making good knives at a budget price.
Clone is probably going to have less play than the BM
May I ask what do you mean by play? I only ask because I have had 3 bemchmades and no play in any of mine. But I just wondering if you mean blade play? Or lock play?
@@johnathan.jerusik wow you got lucky I'm talking about vertical blade play (the kind u can't fix) 4 of my 5 benchmades have significant play
@@tyler2260 that's crazy! Do you think it's because of the springs? Wasn't it kizer that just released a cross bar lock where you can adjust the tension. It seems like on the low tension you can just flip it open.
@@johnathan.jerusik it's not a spring issue because when I hold the axis bar forward it still has play its a quality control issue that benchmade has been struggling with. I'm so over benchmade because of the qc issues and the God awful soft heat treatments they do, they run all their stuff at like 30% of its potential
@@tyler2260 ya I go back and forth between my bugout and my TRM. The benchmade I like for at work. I use it in a machine shop. I use to have alot of knives but I sold pretty much all of them. But I can see those issues an concerns. I am no way a benchmade lover. The only thing is the weight and the lack of ergos. I love spyderco but there knives really don't fit my hands at all. My favorite by them is the native 5 but it dosent fit my hand at all. I have XL hands that like smaller knives. Been thinking about getting a WE banter. I have that it's made in China but they have amazing fit in finish.
Love my clones.
13 minutes on packaging....
The reason I emphasized so much on that, is because most pictures, on ebay or other sites, it's easier to tell the box is fake and not the knife. The knifes in the pictures are not usually close up shots, where the box is sometimes easier to see, even with a more distant shot.
I got a wish clone but i knew it was clone because i bought it off wish. Exactly the same one this cry baby got. Im happy with it it rusts resl easy but its a fine cheap under 20$ beater knife.
You should know better than to buy anything from ebay
Well bad news for Benchmade because some are putting up reviews recently that the actual clones are starting to be better made then the actual real ones. After all Benchmade is notorious for terrible quality control with uneven grinds, blades not centered, uneven screws ect. Ect. Broken omega springs. They are not worth anything remotely close to what they charge for them.
I get that. I don't own any Benchmade any more. Just Spyderco. The only issue I have is the clones scales break very very easily. And you don't know what the metal actually is.
lmao, "completely different grind" along with everything else that was "completely" different. this dude has no fucking clue what completely different actually means. those 2 where so fucking close its not even funny.
Well I'm sorry to disappoint you. Pointing out the difference between the 2 I hoped would allow other people to not waste money and get scammed. I'm sorry my video didn't meet your standards.
The bag is way different and also the "completely" generic bar code opposed to the generic one on the real one
@@leatherlegionateliers9228 that's is 100% true and a detail I forgot to point out
keep waisting $200 for a flimsy plastic folding knife...the bugout is the proof that people will buy s.... because marketing and youtubers says buy this, buy that...
Now if Benchmade makes a knife as good as civivi then they will have something really good they are all good knives
🤣 that's why I don't own any Benchmade anymore. If you watch my we Saakshi video I talk about that alot
You're there thinking you're working hard doing a video don't you do you know what the irony of it is people don't give a sausage anyway sausage goodbye
Although I appreciate your honesty, and im sorry you didn't find the video appealing. I have had people thank me saying they found the video useful for them. So I'm sorry it didn't speak to you and your sausage. Maybe there's a different video on my channel that you may find appealing. Maybe I'm not the right youtuber for you. I appreciate your time in letting me know your thoughts. Take care, be safe, and have a happy 2024
@@johnathan.jerusik do you know what I like you for being honest as well and that is what I like in a person I am going to watch some more of your videos sometimes you watch people and it's the same old same old if you know what I mean you're different thank you for being honest as well thumbs up keep it going
@davidjensen4796 I try to be as honest as I can. I do this channel out of loge and fun. And also to document things that I don't see others talk about. Sometimes, I see people say something that is a negative for them is a "bad thing". I have had knives or other products that people have said were bad in a way and realized it wasn't bad it was they didn't like it. I try to be open and share my honest experience with everyone. I know I won't be here forever. And I have 4 kids. I hope that if one day these videos will help them or even my future grandchildren.
Stop focusing on the packaging and focus on the knife...why? Because ebay and similar sell slightly used without box for over $100 and its a $20 fake. The butterfly logo (on knife blade) on the authentic has a very small copyright logo that looks as small as a period, yet is crisp under magnification. The fake has a copyright logo that is 2 to 3 times the size. The fake is a fraction of the knife the real version is. Stop knowingly buying fake shit!
I appreciate your criticism. I wanted to focus on the box because I haven't been able to tell in pictures if the knife is fake but you can tell the box is fake. And like I have said many times, I didn't know the knife I purchased from ebay was a fake. What I believed happened is they used real photos and sent me a fake knife. And not like stick get them off Google. I mean they took pictures of a real bugout.
The size of the ©️ next to the butterfly logo on blade is the easier way to tell in images than the box differences. The fakes are fooling a lot of people based upon the reviews on ebay. Knowingly buying a clone is no different than buying stolen merchandise even if it is only $30 bucks shipped and probably a good value....why? Because dishonest people will sell for 5X and it dilutes the brand.
Btw, I'm sorry you got taken and could happen to anyone. I hate scammers. There are many people knowingly buying the clones...I know you weren't and sorry my comment came across that way.
@allaboutroofing2 hey I get it! My whole intent was I wanted 2. One to modify and one to keep stock. I wanted to see if it was worth it. Because I actually like the bougout stock. Bit it's not perfect. But I thought I could get a better deal getting one used off ebay, that way I wouldn't feel so bad to modify it. But that's when I got scammed. I was able to send it back and get my money back. But it was a lesson. And it was something I didn't want anyone else to go through.
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Good video bro, sorry they f'd you over. Karma will catch em eventually
Bruh, I bought one off wish. Cause it was cheap and I liked it. It has the same barcode number.
Hey I have no issue with that! I was sold this under fake pictures, and that it was a "real" bugout. That was my point of the video.
But it’s not the same knife