Why James Hetfield’s Voice Changed After Master of Puppets (Especially the Black Album / Metallica)
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- You may have noticed that the tone of James Hetfield's voice is quite different on the Black Album compared to Master of Puppets. Here is why.
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And then he just went insane on ...And Justice For All
That’s a great album for sure!
AJFA has my favorite Hetfield vocal performance by far.
He was starting to find it slowly on MOP, but you can tell his voice also still has some of the youthful overtones from RTL and KTA.
He sheds that completely on AJFA and pretty much perfects that style on the Black Album, although AJFA has more raw aggression in his vocal delivery which is the primary reason why it's my favorite vocal performance from him.
@@byrondean In Harvester and Blackened " the last neveeeeeaaaargh", you have hints of previous years
@@byrondean th-cam.com/video/pjEUUxJf-9w/w-d-xo.html and live , 0:22 ..
bro on blackened he went full gigga chad mode
Here's another way to explain it:
Because his original singing inspirations were people like Sean Harris, Steven Tyler etc, as well as being younger, Hetfield's original singing voice was coming from a much brighter place, and the grit was coming from a 'top' down perspective, as in he was bringing it down from that higher register into his singing voice. Relatively easy to do, as you say.
Starting with Justice, but especially on the Black Album, James started creating that grit from a much deeper place, lower throat and a bit of chest resonance, and in a way it was the opposite of before in that this was a "bottom up" approach: taking that grit and intensity from a lower register and bringing it up into his normal range. Also makes perfect sense why he was only able to keep it up for about a year before blowing his voice out, as that puts wayyyy more strain on your vocal cords than the earlier approach.
-From somebody who gave himself nodes trying to replicate his peak style.
That’s exactly what I was thinking!! He started out singing like a higher range singer with the mixed voice grit and transitioned into more chest voice based grit!! Rock on 🤘🏻
@@terrifyingmusiclessons Another big part of how his approach changed that I think goes unnoticed at times is that on the Black Album he'd already begun adding some of the rounder pronunciation and country twang that would become so prominent on the Load records. Back in the early days, up through Master, he sang using his regular speech pronunciation.
That change is really the secret sauce ingredient to that 91 voice, and why it's so stylistically distinct from what came before. If that grit was just coming from a deeper place but everything else was the same, it wouldn't sound as drastically different as it does.
O dang that’s so true! The country influence and pronunciation is a huge factor that I wasn’t considering as much! Haha thanks for the insight!
Well when you do a tour like the album i think it would affect any singer, even with good technique
@@Nissardpertugiu exactly. The nearly four year long Black Album tour pretty much finished James' voice off from ever singing live in E standard again.
There is no metal voice better than 89 seattle live James Hetfield voice.
Yea his voice is killer on that recording!
The peak aggression and tone in James's voice (as well as their live performances) came in ...And Justice For All, and the Black Album. James's balance of tone, rasp, and sheer delivery was top-notch. But of course that came at a price, blowing his voice out routinely, which is physically damaging to your vocal chords... so his style had to change regardless after that. But 1988-1992 Hetfield voice will always be the best IMO.
His singing was top notch on those albums for sure!!
Load and S&M eras were very good also
@@bobalto very good, just different, more singing, lower key... certainly smarter delivery on his part for sure in terms of health and longevity.
I agree 💯 that’s another reason I like Master of Puppets more than Ride the Lightning. It’s close though. Both albums are 10/10 imo.
damn true bro
Hetfield’s early mindset was to deliver like a tenor. By Justice and black album era, he finally realised he was a baritone.
That totally makes sense!
In the texture that changed.
Some of justice era stuff or Early Black album tour, he hits the same notes, same tuning, its just that the voice got bigger and harmonic fuller and lower
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I think he just wanted to be as aggressive as he could, reached his peak around justice and black album, then had to adjust to a dif style to reach the notes he needed after he blew his voice out. I think I can sing like he used to without really sacrificing his voice
I think his vocals on Justice are probably the best of their earlier records but I think his vocals on Lightning and Puppets are pretty damned good too.
Yep all of those albums are killer!
Lulu was the pinnacle artistically, musically, vocally. Everything peaked on that record when he became the table.
Lulu was genuine Renaissance art. James realized that to turn the tables on creative stagnation, he would need to become the table.
Couldn't have said it better myself
Lulu sucks.
Dude, I’ve been doing extreme metal vocals for 17 years, since I was 9 years old. You have given better information and tips then the top paying vocal trainers. Great breakdown of Hetfield’s vox as well! Excellent work! Earned a sub!
Thank you so much for the kind words!! Glad you found it helpful ☺️
Exactly what I was thinking, this video helped me understand certain vocal-technique's that I haven't found any Vocal Coach be able to explain, not too surprising there I 'spose. 'Still, this dude's given the best description on how to deliver a killer vocal sound & the "best" technique/s to achieve it!
By far the biggest difference between James MoP voice compared to Black Album is the use of "YEAAHAAAAHHHH"
yEaHeA!
One thing that younger James did that I wish he would still do is maintain a flat tone throughout a full phrase. He actually has a really good delivery when he stays on track, but it seems like, over the years, he deviated by default. I think the best way I've heard it described is that young James "Vocalized" where Present-day James "sings". Somewhere along the way, he seems to have decided to "sing" everything even when the song sounds best with his simpler "vocalized" delivery. Let this not detract from the fact that James is undeniably epic.
Yea he had a really unique phrasing style that really suited the music on early albums!
"no balls till later, but we´re gonna kick some ass tonight!"
Haha
People change throughout their lives. The body changes, face changes, hair changes and your voice changes.
Yes this is true!!
Exactly. What's not to understand. Age is the biggest factor for vocal changes. NOBODY has their young adult voice when they're 60. Nobody.
@@tallycahamuhlhetru26 Male voices deepen and get more full and rich until they reach their mid-late 30's. After about the age of 40, voices start to sound "old", more brittle and creaky the older you get.
I have a theory that he didn't fully finish puberty until Justice. Not only is that when his voice got a lot fuller sounding, but that's when he started rocking facial hair. That would explain why he also even had acne problems in the early KeA era
His voice on Whiplash made it hard to believe that he was 21, not 14 like I thought
He will always have an iconic voice
"Take my hand..."
MOP: "Teeek my hand."
Black Album: "Taaaake my hand."
Yes the pronunciation really changed over the years!! Much rounder on the black album! He gravitated towards closed vowels more early on. Rock on!
I like his voice more in 83-88 cause no one can scream and sing high like that with his distortion
Im really practicing to sing like his 80s voice
Im gonna upload some vocal covers soon
Yes I really like the tone he had on those high notes during that time period!!
Baritones ( or Low tenors Like Dio too ) have often a biological thing in larynx cartilage around mid 20's and early 30's.
I had this too.
Phil anselmo had this too in 1991.
Rob Halford about Killing Machine album and through British steel to Defenders .
Compare David Coverdale tone between Burn and Come taste the band and early Whitesnake .
More tough, Darker tone, more adult.
More space and power , thickness in the sound .
True true that makes sense!
He may have found his signature style during The Blaxk Album. But Master of Puppets is my favorite vocal style of his....it has a shrieking snarl vibe to it.
I really like those vocals too! Rock on!
Puppets was like the culmination of the best vocal aspects of the first 3 rolled into one package. His voice on Justice (my personal fav) was basically Puppets without all the reverb.
It simply was his normal singing voice, The more he used it the stronger it got,
Your voice sounds high pitched, come back in 20 years and you will notice your natural voice has deepened
That was definitely a factor!! Even if he used the exact same style, it would have sounded different for that reason!
His speaking voice was actually already pretty deep back then
Beats save the world is a tenor.
James always been a verdi Baritone .
Completly different animals but yeah as i explain, especially baritones.
When you developp, even around 25 , your voice take a more adult set up
Hot Take: Hetfields voice was the best on the first two albums
His style was super unique on Kill ‘Em All!!
It really wasnt. MOP and Justice were his best.
@@ayaanbretmitchell9830 Justice and Black for raw Vocal Fry! Load/Reload for Clean Singing with Vocal Fry.
1988-1993 was his best hands down
@@michaelmitchell8239very true
His voice matured as he aged. Simple.
That’s true!
My thoughts exactly. It happened to me. I used to sound like Ann Wilson and now I sound more like Marianne Faithful -- the difference is cigars and 30 years.
It's not only the distortion. The clean tone also changed. If you compare early versions of Fade to Black to the Black Album era it changed completely. Personally i love the Ride the Lightning Master of Puppets era voice. It's just awesome.
The first 3 albums is where Metallica shined especially James voice
Those albums were killer!
His sound was best on kill ‘em all and ride the lightning
Another huge reason for James' voice change is because of the recording for the song "So What". He blew out his voice during that recording and had to go through the steps of recovery for that.
That definitely was a factor!
@@terrifyingmusiclessons Also if you listen carefully on the song am i evil his voice was always on the edge of blowing out th-cam.com/video/477trASWuCI/w-d-xo.html
Another key factor was that Hetfield eventually blew out his voice on the Puppets tour and again on the Justice tour. This led to him seeking out a vocal coach who taught him proper breathing techniques and how to warm up his voice. Just those 2 things led to Papa Het finally get the sound he was for but wasnt able to achieve.
That makes sense!! Thanks for the insight 😄
Wasn't it Ron Anderson?
Ozzy's voice went up every album from the 1st through Sabotage. Comparing The Wizard to The Writ, it's quite amazing how high the change in pitch.
Wow that’s interesting!
nice. yeah ozzy was singing high d notes on the regular non falsetto . in the bridge/middle of sabbath bloody sabbath his voice goes super high
He evolved from Jamie to Baby James to James to Papa Het.
That’s a great way of putting it!
Not sure if it's because of the copyright use to use hetfields own voice, but you should have used his instead of yours. I didn't really get to hear the right difference. Overall, I think the subject idea is fascinating. So thank you for creating this video! I learned a lot
That’s a fair point for sure! I’ve realized while working on this video that even during the Black Album, he’s really using a mix of both and when I tried singing it using only one of the techniques, it sounded quite different from the actual recording!! But the result of using both is that the two recordings are quite similar. Haha oh well glad you learned something!
I thought the same thing
I love James young voice punky and youthful as well as the gritty mutton chop voice of later on.
Same!! Rock on 🤘🏻
Wicked analysis, thankyou for making it
Happy to help!! Rock on! 🤘🏻
For me the first three albums are the best. Masterpieces!!!
They are masterpieces!!
He also took singing lessons after he blew his voice out so he was able to sing in really low registers and softer like in The Unforgiven and Nothing Else Matters. Four years of touring and singing like that and drinking every night took it's toll on his voice. If you watch some videos from late '93 and early '94 you can see he is tired and still trying to sing like he did in '91 but can't so he is singing closer to his current voice.
Great video that goes in depth on a topic I've always pondered. Nice work! 😄
So glad you enjoyed it! Rock on 🤘🏻
Never seen your channel before . As a vocalist I really enjoyed this . Subscribed ✔️
Yaayy so glad you enjoyed it! Rock on 🤘🏻
I like his early voice better tho
The early voice was great!!
2:21 he was trying to sound like Dave Mustaine
Megadeth rocks!!
hahaha I thought the same .
Side note: I really wish he had taken steps sooner to save his voice. The justice tour and recording the black album killed it and he went oh shit, I have to do something here. By the early to mid 2000's it was totally shot and has never come back. Didn't stop me from keeping up with my favorite band. It's one small part that kind of sux
Yea vocal health is so important for metal bands haha!
Thankfully I've found my voice. Lol
Howard Stern...the man that didn't leave his house for two years...I have zero respect for this guy now...he went from being cool...to being the male version of Whoopi Goldberg.
Haha interesting 🤔
Opie & Anthony would've had much better Metallica interviews.
good work man, keep uploading!
Thank you!! ☺️
AJFA, was the crescendo of the grit. Alcohol, anger and sorrow.
yepp!
The Bridge can be heard on Garage Days (1987) if you listen .
Then Justice
Ahh good point!!
I always figured he was just so much younger
That’s a factor too!! If you listen to Kill Em All though, he’s definitely doing different things with his voice too! That high screaming thing he did on Kill Em All was much less frequent moving forward.
that is literally it.
He hurt his vocal cords and had to learn how to sing without blowing his voice out in black album
That’s true!!
...and Justice for All is the best Hetfield era
That’s an incredible album! 💿
His voice during the Justice album was the apex I think
**********************JAMES IS "AMAZING"*********************** ***CATER***
"CLIFF"{EM ALL)
Nice!!
I assume you folks know James blew his voice out recording so what, I realize it's not from 86 to 91 but it was during the black album sessions
Yes that was another change in his voice!! He still sounded great on that tour but I think afterward he tried to conserve his voice more. His tone on live performances after 1993 had much less distortion and sounded more like regular singing.
Great stuff my man, my first show ever three rivers in pittsburgh ,Metallica faith n more and guns ,oh iwas 14 ,a few buds ,and My mom right beside us ,mom of the century! Keep up the great vids ,take it easy ,but take it!
Thanks so much!! That sounds like an amazing show! Rock on 🤘🏻!!
*******************JAMES CAN I SING WITH YOU JUST ONCE*********** I AM MADE FOR YOUR SOUND ***CATER***
I AM STILL THE KID SOUND
Rock on!
Your singing tone gets deeper over time and you voice gets a little lower as well. Happens to most all singers overtime not just Hetfield.
Definitely! A singer’s timbre changes over their life!
Ths is generally true, but as one gets into their 40's and especially 50 and above, the male voice will get a bit more high, creaky, and raspy. Peak vocal depth and fullness is achieved in one's mid-late 30's
IMO there’s two main reasons:
One - The death of Cliff Burton; afterwards James drank way too much, it eventually made his voice lower.
Two - Bob Rock pushed him to be a “proper” vocalist. James ended up blowing out his voice on “So what” and taking vocal lessons afterwards.
James went in the mid 80s "testicles 1, 2...ok"
Yepp seems legit!
HOLY WAÀAAARRSSS
Great song!
goddamn this guy hearted every comment
All comments are appreciated! 😜
I guess that his scream shifted from a "head sound" to a "chest sound"
In a way yes! They’re both a mix but his sound got more chest dominant over time!
@@terrifyingmusiclessons Yeah exactly
The beginning voice is the best. Right the lightning even thought is not the best produced album is my favorite
I love his voice on that album! He gets some impressive high notes too!
Can someone give this guy a copy of "Garage Days Revisted" and/or "...And Justice for All?"
This is an incomplete analysis/essay.
I’ll check them out!
This is often an unpopular opinion but I prefer James’ higher voice. I can’t get enough of late ‘86 live shows with Newkid, that guitar tone and that voice. Also Lars was a beast at that time.
Ya that sound was killer!
I like his original voice better. I get the vocal change through age but hearing him say he didn't like his younger voice makes me sad cause it's so fuckin badass
Ya I like the younger voice too!
Has anyone ever noticed that his Justice voice really started coming in on Sanitarium?
Yes! I think it’s because he was really distorting some lower notes one the phrases before the chorus. Like the phrase “Can't they see it's why my brain says rage”. On Justice, he started doing that more. Until then, he was mostly distorting notes around G4 (a bit higher).
He sounded the best on AJFA
I feel like the biggest change was after the black album
Um, or perhaps it was that from Kill'em All through Master, James DOUBLED all his vocals? Very well documented technique. His vocals are doubled at minimum which is why there is more growl and subtle multiple frequencies in his delivery. That distinct approach CHANGED at the Black Album at Bob Rocks suggestion. It was the first time James actually "sang" vs recording limited variance to sing the exact same thing on top of a previous recording of his own yelling in tune... 🤦
Oh that’s interesting! You’re saying there’s no doubling on the black album? That may very well be true. I do remember Ken Tamplin mentioning that there were like 10 different vocal tracks on the main vocal though for the black album. Ken claims he knows the engineer who worked on that album (not the producer). But he may be mistaken.
Well Live James was very distorted.
Check hammer metal festival 1985, its not doubled
He doubled on Justice too.
i like them both
Me too!
I think as you age you lose some of the top end, but the lower end of your range becomes fuller. Happened with Elvis and Eddie Vedder.
Yes this is very true!!
Sadly drinking heavy and over touring due to management and trying to please the general public basically destroyed his voice.
The AJFA tour it wasnt long and over stretched.
But the black album brought the main stream issue where the management wanted money signs. And the black album tour went on way to long destroying James voice.
And remember Metallica never grieved over Cliff, so heavy drinking and over touring pushed James to self destruction almost.
Why are they skipping over ...and Justice. in his evolution. When you take that into consideration it all totally makes sense
That’s a fair point!!
James to me best vocals came on Masters to And Justice. Black album personally me I thought was ok… Metallica died to me after and Justice
There definitely was a big shift after Justice. Some say the black album was a warning about the band’s new direction haha.
🙄
He hit puberty lol
Definitely a plausible theory!
Can you do a video explaining what was happening with his vocal delivery LIVE between 94 to 2012. At some point in 93 his old style vocals were no longer possible - so he started to really yodel. He brought the pitch down half a step as of 95 live, and as well as in the studio. In 2008 he resumed in E in studio only. but continued Eb live - obviously to save his voice. He could still do the old style here and there, but not for an entire show. So we still got plenty of yodelling. It wasn't until 2012 that he began to sing somewhat more aggressively yet yodelly consistently, striking the right balance for what was realistic for the longer shows. Up until that year it was really hit and miss. Vocal peaks live could be found however in '98-99 as well as 2007-8. I'd really like for someone such as yourself to dive deep into their live sets over the years to spell out what we're hearing, and speculate as to why, and what changed, etc.
I should be able to do that!
For some people, it can take months and even years to fully heal vocal damage. James badly stressed his voice out in the early 90's and then sang more conservatively for a long time. More recently he occasionally sings with more grit/aggression, but he's never going to go all out like he did in the 80's and early 90's. Too hard on the voice.
In 93 James blew his voice. Then he stayed away from rasp
It’s kind of weird how my voice is about as deep as James is but I find it easier to sing stuff from Master Of Puppets compared to …And Justice For All.
I k ow why his voice changed. Because james blew his vocals out recording 'so what'. For 89's garage days or garage days revisited ep. When that happened he had to relearn how to sing. However his voice was never the same. Plus age doesn't help either.
Yes he certainly changed his style to be less tiring after having some vocal problems around that time!
It's called alcohol. If you drank as much whiskey as he did every night your voice would drop too.
Haha I’ll try it!
Why the background music?
Cus I like music 🎶
3:03 Megadeath
Haha yesss!
You sound more like Chester from Linkin Park
The biggest distinction is his getting older and years of touring. The vocal chords can’t sustain such use over touring for years at a time
The main difference I hear is 5yrs
yepp!
Has Justice for All disappeared?
I find his tone is sort of half way between Puppets and Metallica on Justice!
Don't forget and justice for all! that's the best sound that will ever be Metallica!! I know it was some major editing.. but so was the black album!
Justice was an amazing album!! I see his vocals as kind of half way between Master of Puppets and the Black Album on Justice.
@@terrifyingmusiclessons yeah.. he was just aging.. but I know that YOU are your worst critic. and I mean "James" how he was dogging his own younger voice. he has no idea how many people really love his younger voice. That early Metallica. they was my biggest influence to finally play the guitar at age 12.. and I'm 40 now! lol actually wanted to play at age 5 but parents wasn't having it at that age.
Still hasn't realised that the first four Metallica records are the best, and most loved 🤦♂️ Hungry, angry, noncommercial.
The first four are amazing!
I really do NOT see that James vocal style has really changed from albumn to albumn.
And, bringing up Axle Rose's way of singing just REALLY loses me for good.
Now, maybe James HAS honed his voice a good bit, and is able to sing better after he had before? BUT, I am just wondering if maybe now, Jame's voice has improved?
REally, Jame's voice has been the sound of Metallica for decades now, and we really don't need any new vocalists coming along joining the band.
I definitely hear a difference when I listen to a song off Kill Em All versus the Black Album!!
@@terrifyingmusiclessons I agree that Jame's voice sure has "Matured", BUT, I am just of the opinion that James had all of that RANGE of his voice all BOTTLED UP INSIDE OF HIM from day ONE. He had just NEEDED the confidence to bring it all OUT.
Welp... James was replaced by an Alien lizard clone after puppets... It's the only explanation for what has been released ever since... I have no idea who's listening to them since 1987.
This is the most believable theory I’ve heard so far! 👽🦎
Didn't they speed Ride the Lightning up?
Not sure haha! “For Whom the Bell Tolls” seems tuned a bit higher than E to match the bell sound effect.
Would love to see a video on the difference from the black album to today, James Hetfield doesn’t sound at all like James Hetfield to me anymore
I’m working on something like that currently!! 🎥
So basically James started singing up in the mouth then he discovered his throat power and eventually now in the 2010s learned to growl in a sort of way.
Seems about right!! 🤘🏻
His voice sounded way better the first 4 thrash albums
That’s a valid viewpoint!!
Totally 100%
double tracking, bob rock opened a door by not double tracking the vocals. check out the podcast on
spotify
That’s neat! I’ll look into it ☺️! Rock on!
@@terrifyingmusiclessons np. diehard fan here of the band, youll be able to a part 2 after lol
did you listen to it lol
Haha not yet it’s been a crazy week! It may be months before I get around to it 🤪
All your recordings sound the same dude. I saw an interview once where early on he really wanted to sound like i cant rem his name but the singer from diamond head
I agree that it’s pretty hard to hear the differences!! I should have tried harder to make them more distinct. That’s interesting that he was so influenced by Diamond Head! Rock on! 🤘🏻
His original vocals were 1millionx better than his later vocals. Love that original sound
I love the original sound too! 🤩
His voice in last decade is amazing
your 2 examples were the same in vocal technique
For me, one of them I definitely feel higher up in the throat and it feels more like a tension in my head voice than a grunt!! But I kind of had to mix both of them to get closer to the Hetfield sound haha! Rock on!
@@terrifyingmusiclessons
as a fellow singer and a baritone, i absolutely understand HOW YOU FEEL,
but they sounded the same
the only thing that sounded different was when you started in a deep growl relaxed and worked your way up a bit
or the reverse when you started high engaging your core then compressed it , you could certainly tell a difference there
but the first ones' there was no difference and again.. i totally get this.
a funny part of being a singer is that sometimes we hear ourselves in a certain way but it's now how we actually sound
and even in a playback recording, our brains tell us it's something while others hear it as something else, it's actually quite interesting
I've had things that i've sung (and i can do anything from metallica because of my voice type and characteristics)
but i've had things i thought were really good and others would say .... umm no not really that's kinda shit, then i would have things that i thought were not very good and others would say, that's fucking amazing
it's all very confusing
i have found over the years that when i think it's good i need to bring my opinion down a significant level and when i think it's bad, i need to give myself more credit
and somewhere in the middle you still don't get it right but it's closer to how others perceive it
Be cool mate
beyond not being able to make out the difference
i heard a bit of strain but you actually have a decent voice, well done
Makes sense! Thanks for the kind words!
@@terrifyingmusiclessons
You're welcome, Be cool
I figured he was trying to find his footing for his singing style
Yep he tried a lot of styles!! His style on Kill Em All is night and day with his style on the Black Album!!
@@terrifyingmusiclessons exactly. I think he was going for a Venom/Judas Priest/King Diamond early 80s thrash vocalist style on Kill Em All. He got more comfortable using his real voice by Black Album
Yep it sure sounds like it!!
No disrespect but it's not even close. But your voice is really good though
Haha I’ll take it! I appreciate the compliment 🤩
Actually I always thought the major changes in James voice happened between Kill 'em All and Ride the Lightning, MOP and AJFA, the Black Album and everything that came after. The Black Album itself - to me - seems just like a continuation of AJFA. To me I only liked his voice between Ride the Lighning and the Black Album. Everything before sounds terrible and everything after sounds more like he was trying to be a Country singer.
I definitely hear a huge change after Kill Em All!
Bro has 3 balls😂
He's right off his head this guy lol sounds more like axl rose lol
I definitely hear the Axl Rose comparison! Rock on!
It's crazy how he hates it tho a lot of fan prefer his old voice
I think his old voice is awesome!
Because James started hitting the gym
lol wtf, it’s basic evolution n growth, he became a great vocalist between 85-89. his rasp n growls. his live performances in that era shit on anything recorded on the black album. n basically bob rock isolated a few key techniques n sounds, n said, put this into everything, not just the key note or climax of a vocal line
Yepp I love his live performances from 85-89! Rock on! 🤘🏻
I stopped listening to them after 95 and when Jason left that was the final straw. Hetfields voice peaked with 'And justice for all'. If you listen to that record his voice was full of such hatred and he yelled properly. Even the live shows up to 93 be still had it and screamed at the crowd and what not. Then Load came along and he started to sing and then I lost all interest. They were great for 10 years only (83-93). They have been this new metallica for 30 years!!! 3x the length of time they were like pioneers of Metal. Such a shame.
Yea they were definitely more “metal” during the earlier albums!