We asked Brian_F's honest thoughts on M. Bison...
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 18 ต.ค. 2024
- M. Bison released not too long ago, and Brian_F and Kizzie Kay lay down all their thoughts on this character. Is he just as broken as people claim he is, or has enough time now passed to disprove that?
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Someone needs to make art of M. Bison drive rushing out of party city with his original costume
Bison will be Top5 once his CA has the horse trampling over you while he does the "Word" stance
Nobody notice the big bug behind Brian F on the wall or am I buggin?
It's not a bug, it's a feature
The bug is bugging.
Lol definitely saw that
It’s the nail that’s holding on the photo that’s leaning on the wall, it’s a feature wall
Asmongold must have visited for some reason
The one thing I really dislike about this Bison - aside from Scissors being motion which screws with years of muscle memory - is that his Head Press doesn't work properly. Horizontal range is too low, the jump is slow, and being force to dive straight down before attacking makes it even slower. I used to use Head Press as part of my mid-range pressure but now it just gets me killed because it has no horizontal reach. Pretty much just use Devil Reverse only.
That was weird to me too, but stomp is designed to be more of an oki tool than a neutral one in this game. It would be busted otherwise with how you can get crossups with it too.
“BAGOOSH”- Brain_Francis
🤓Brian_foster
Hey alright
Isn't that Main Man SWE
@@Aggrofool he’s usually just saying LGBTQ stuff
top 5 is a revolving door of like 10 characters.
This. But my theory has always been if your character matches the mechanics down to a T. Then they're the best in the game.
Bison is good but people are reaching with top tier because of bicycle kick. He can be mauled by quite a few characters and has no way out of the corner. I definitely put him in high A tier. The point is thank god he's strong because it changes the meta of seeing just Ken's and Luke. That was really pathetic to see for a whole year straight.
Ken's still too prevalent if you ask me
Evo was fine. U can see how the meta shifting in the tournament space.
1 Cammy, 1 rashid, 2 Ed’s in top 6
There was a bison too
@@erno6155 Yeah nemo was there too
Umm you can jump in the air and drift out the corner
All I can say is that, as a Ryu main, everytime I face a Bison it feels I gotta be 3 times as good just to win. Bison has like 4 moves that allow him to skip neutral in the most bull**** of ways...
he's busted fr, and mains are just downplaying it so he wont get the nerfs he needs
Then you arent playing Ryu correctly if you trying 3 times as hard. Work on your neutral, and know your frame data. There is a lot of opportunities for Ryu in that match, and its Bison who is trying hard because everything Bison can initiate with can easily get shut down by a Ryu thats ready. Stop letting Bisons steal turns, become more aggressive.
@@oOYourdadOo Bison is a Boss character. He is top 5 and will always be top 5. Same as Akuma.
Throw more Hadoukens. Seriously. Bison has trouble navigating a Hadouken storm at mid/close range.
@@ShinUltima lol Bison has a projectile invulnerable ex psycho crusher ready for that.
You're right Brian, he's top 3
Bison feels like the team testing "what if we make someone without reversal super strong" especially since they have a boss character to ease the news of broken dlc character and being a 2step.
Old school costume is sick dude. I hope costume 3 has elements of both of the costumes. Like parts of his sleeve is blown off so you can see his arm and face light up with psycho power better than you can in the old school version.
His costume 1 is already reminiscent of his OG design, I hope the third is something completely different. Though, the idea is nice 👍🏾
1,000,000% agree with Brian. He was my fastest road to Master character so far, and his offense and rush down and set play is probably top 5 but his defense is bottom 5. He gets completely mauled lol
I don't know why people continue to care so much about tiers to argue with people. Clearly nobody has a definitive answer. Top players were saying Ryu was top 5 and we all know objectively that's not true. There are too many variables at play-- online/offline, tournament viable, modern/classic, online stats, tournament stats, evolving meta. There is no definitive answer and also some of these pro players really don't know what they're talking about. No reason to argue over this, healthy discussions are where it's at.
Which top players were putting Ryu in top 5?
@@plannedtuna8293 I agree when was that said??
@@plannedtuna8293 There was a tier list talk video recently and a couple of players mentioned him being there. Either big bird or angry bird I forget which one but it was more than one. Mc mura even made a tier list effectively putting him there or close to it.
@@plannedtuna8293 Big Bird
Yeah it was a Justin Wong video.
Its crazy how sf5 I hated ed and bison and now I think there both pretty cool, good on capcom
Bison's classic look still looks good to me. But nearly every SF6 default is more interesting anyway, so I get the preference.
Scissors not being charge has to be thanks to modern schemes, since he has crusher, can't have 2 charges on the same direction, but different punch\kick.
The skibidi bop drive rush is crazy. He runs like he wants you dead expeditiously.
Top 5 are Rashid, Cammy, Ed, Ken, Akuma.
Because they have fast buttons that can interrupt, dp, and fast walk speed to pressure/shimmy. They also all have a gimmick they can use to mix
No way you tried to sneak Ed as top 5 😂
I’d put Gief and Guile up there and bump off Akuma/ken. I am not sure where Ed belongs yet.
@@Evilj82 You wanna bump up Zangief to top 5 and take Akuma off???
@@lordanzu8763Gief gets buffed and people pretend he's top 5 lol, they clearly didn't watch Itazan fight that Jamie at Evo or see Oil King do nothing but backdash fireball to beat him. His matchup spread is still just as bad as it was before the patch it's just that they overtuned his drive chip damage so people wanna focus on Gief and pretend like other characters (M.Bison and Ken) aren't doing the same thing except they have a lot more tools than Gief.
Also yeah trying to say Ken and Akuma should be bumped out of top 5 for GIEF is outrageous lol, Bison Ken and Akuma are everywhere. People are just pretending Gief is top tier so he gets gutted, Japan always had Gief in top 5 throughout the entirety of SFV even though nobody played him and he was obviously very weak.
Guile over akuma and you got it!
Bison in this game made me like playing charge characters
so which charge character do you like?
@@androtaz2621 Bison lol
13:24 Sagat would be neat! Please Capcom, just bring back the remaining classics. There are just a few more left. Sagat, Vega, Balrog, Feilong and T.Hawk.
When Bison’s on a roll, he is snowballing. He’a super strong with a simple two-step game plan and plus frames. But his simplicity and slower anti-air can make him inconsistent in some MUs.
Bison's been my main in every game he's been in since SF2:CE.
He's my boy, good or bad. I even played him in Alpha 3 and the VS games including SVC where he's really not that good.
I'm glad he's back, I'm glad he's fun and looks cool.
I honestly don't mind the Costume 2 cos I love the goofy villain look, that's why I liked him to start with tbh.
Shadaloo is the label that pays us🤙💯
This bison is a mix of sf4, sf5, and CVS2. Having an overhead really made his mix-up game dangerous. In my opinion, this is the second best version after CVS2
Hum...... Interessing! Very Interessing! Very Interessing!
15:10 In USF4, EX Scissors went through regular fireballs and Psycho Crusher always lost to them. Weird how that's flipped
Top 5 for me right now is zangief juri guile bison aki no order for that
I no longer think bison is top tier remove him and put ken
Ken above AKI for sure, and Akuma.
@@WindyCityNick i agree i wasnt playing to many kens at the time now that they coming back ken is hella broken i think ed might be top 5 as well hes so cheap
My new list is zangief ed ken rashid and akuma
I’m a diamond with ryu and akuma, and I run into bison time to time and he’s not to hard to deal with if you understand how he works. Once he gets knocked down he’s at a big disadvantage, and if he doesn’t have mine planted he’s cautious as hell. Once he gets the kind it’s a different game, but with the downsides to him I feel he’s fair overall. Like Aki is strong before the poison and just becomes scarier, bison has to get that line to get scary
I learnt to stop trusting Brian F a year ago, when he used to say; and to paraphrase, 'people are going in on JP, but people are REALLY silent about Guile'. Not only was he deflecting attacks regarding his main, but attacking Guile, who's worst matchup is/was, JP.
God forbid someone doesn't talk shit about their main and disses on their worst match up, right?
I don't hate the guy or anything he seems cool but he is wild when it comes to downplaying his main. Probably the worst I've seen from any of the more known SF content creators. Back when every tourney had a million JPs he was trying to convince us all JP wasn't OD lmao.
As someone who mained him in V, that cHP is **SO** much better as an anti-air that I'm feeling invincible. lmao
I'm honestly having less sucess with Psycho Crusher as an anti-air than just using that button or Drive Rush cHP to beat neutral jumps. PC gets stuffed all the time.
Agreed. Hes alright.
Its just the players who used him at Evo are just amazing players period. Bison isnt a character that carries
lol he just made a new video saying not only is he in top 5, he's top 3, uh oh...............
@@dddaaa6965 Gonna check it out.
We all admitted and discussed the fact that Luke at the end of SFV was intentionally busted to sell something.
The case is the same here, (though less egregiously) but so few people can admit it.
Bison is intentionally overtuned to sell a character pack of which he is the only character available, and half the pack comes out next year.
There has to be a reward for buying the character pack now.
That reward is an overturned fan favorite, with a horse and movie references.
The dude is a mishmash of nerfed things or tools from nerfed characters.
He has Deejay's drive rush, Honda's headbutt, Zangief's nerfed medium kick, and on and on.
Mine > Psycho Crusher is literally Condor Wind > Condor Spire, but with less investment required in the neutral, and more reward on hit.
Boy take the tin foil hat off plz
Plat, i see bison sometimes. He is not as annoying as akuma to me
I'm about to pick up Bison! I've never cared for him before, but his new Undertaker Bison is so good to me
I think people mean "would i not be surprised if this character won a major solo or w/a pocket for 1-2 MUs" when they say "top 5"
Honestly, I finally got to gold 2 because of Bison. I understand his weaknesses, but any character that can shut down the fireball drive rush meta is good in my opinion.
I'm around diamond ranked but i try to play sets rather than ranked. Bison I don't think is every other match as much as when he was released but I think in higher ranks you may see him more. Super strong character , I try not to play tilted against him because he's very obnoxious but he's got a really strong kit
He’s still new, and dude is powerful af!
Round against Bison: Plus on block, plus on block, plus on block, monkey execution combo that doesn't end......plus on block, the end.
Lol today i put the controller down in the 3rd match. I just got bored of trying to get out of it. If i get plus to death or have to chase Luke across the screen or have to play is Ken gonna high or low. Controller down 😂
As a JP main, I can't figure out if this is bad, he goes through ghost, but if I spike him I keep him down
Commenting on every video requesting Makoto’s BBCF combo trials, video 122.
BROTHER HOW ARE YOU FIRST DOING THIS EVERY TIME?
Who tf cares about that, why make such a request?
@@heroicsquirrel3195 you don’t understand the lore
He just made it in top 6 tho
Not bad for a 2 week old character.
Guess the topic of top one is still debatable but a character with no bad match ups, safe reads, anti zoning, one of the best offense and neutral, drains the opponent's meter like a vacuum and the highest damage is a top 5 characteristic. The simple fact that he has no bad match ups is so huge and his safe and high damage gameplay with strong buttons is literally a quality that made Luke top 1 last season. Sure his defence is lacking which does indeed blurrs his position in top 1 but top 5 is in the bag.
Bison/Akuma make me wonder why Season 2 implemented damage scalling on the vanilla cast (except the likes of Marissa or Gief). When the guest final boss is more cringe than the current final boss... Houston, we have a problem.
Mmmmmm, Bison gameplay on the payday I plan on buying the season 2 pass. Glorious.
This comment is not about game balance, but I just find it lame that we got Bison this early. If they wanted to bring him back that's cool but at least wait some more. We're also getting 2 SNK characters this year lol.
There's some far cooler characters that could've came back instead. I want the real big bad, Gill, back again. Isn't SF6 supposed to be a continuation of SF3?
Interessing!
I've played the bison mirror 40 times in 219 gamee
The 5 most represented characters in evo top 48 are:
Ed
M. Bison
Cammy
Rashid
Ken
Most people would agree on most of these being top 5. Guile, Zangief, and Akuma are few and far between despite what people think of them
Make Guile a motion input character
all that is missing is guile with no charge moves
Brian says M Bison isnt top 5 then proceeds to give us a list of reasons he's top 5 😅
they learn the mistake of vanilla sagat not vanilla bison
Thanks 🎉
Brain_F doesn't think he's top 5 because Ed has a winning matchup against him!
Well maybe not top 5 but for sure 6 or 7 bison is hella good
People will never stop crying about Bison, just like in SFV lol
6 Bipson is nothing like 5 tbf. I'm a Bison main since forever but 5 bison was so ezbake oven to play with it made me not even want to play him for more than an hr. Most boring incarnation
People starting to realize that Zangief is the most fun character to play. The problem with Bison is the fucking spammers. No One pays attention to the defense and plays carefully.
I will EAT UP the episode that comes out on Elena
LOL Everyone is shocked that the character that is meant to sell Season 2 passes is strong. Why won't anyone talk about the capitalist balancing of the game? ED and AKI were magically buffed to high tier when Capcom really need to sell Season 1 passes along with Akuma. It's so blatantly obvious. Fuck these new fighting games. Its like when First person shooters turned fully into capitalist shit when when PUBG and Fortnite came out.
P2W is a thing now for FGC
Ed? you mean making the punishable jab safe is a top tier buff? Dafq?
@@studentoflife8532 Good point they made him high tier from the start.
I mean Ken and cammy are still considered better than all those characters and they are base game characters.
Bison is B tier... & THAT IS GOOD! All Characters should be B tier...
@@MANTISxB no, it is that balance should always be the goal for character design. I consider about 6 or so fighters to be B tier.
I'd wager ~90% of people who complain about Bison haven't bothered to learn the matchup. He's not as good as people make him out to be.
Personally I know the matchup but it’s just so bothersome to play against him. And there’s so many that picked him up.
@@ryojin7282That's true. I know he isn't the worst matchup but he is annoying
He is really annoying tho
@@ryojin7282 That's understandable. I also have MUs I consider annoying. It just irks me when that leads to people calling for nerfs when there are counterstrategies and system mechanics already in place to help them beat these characters.
If they're fundamentally broken, then yes, nerf them. Otherwise, it's a skill issue. 😂
@@egocentricblack3278 He is sometimes. It's really annoying to get frame trapped by his Medium normals. 😅
Bison aka Barry Allen
Scissors is good. But its not super safe. The reason pro players dont use it/spam it is because of how easy it is to punish, and the most used characters right now, Cammy, Akuma, Ed, can punish it for free and for a character with little to no defense, he cant afford to be getting punished for free.
The guy that downplayed JP and Ed is now downplaying Bison.
Seems about right.
How good is aki in this game?
Also "top 10".
another tuesday
Bison got top 5 at evo on a malfunctioning controller.
He's easy top 3 and since he requires the IQ of curdled cheese to play he's functionally top 1 for the vast majority of the player base.
There is nobody in SF6 that requires a high iq to play at the highest level. No character is winning at the highest level of play because of their difficulty the only thing that matters for a character's results is the overall strength of the character.
@@MDToboggan that just tells us you are bad at the game.
Like don't tell on yourself man no one cares.
@@Gleapgoogleplusisgone Literally unless you are doing momochi dream combos consistently with Ed you don't have a right to complain that anybody you're playing with is too hard lmao
@@MDToboggan like I said you don't have to tell on yourself and I don't care.
You are just some scrub that doesn't understand that execution is only a tiny part of difficulty.
@@Gleapgoogleplusisgone Well if you're talking about gameplan most of the cr mk drc characters have nearly identical gameplans so I really don't know what characters aside from maybe Sim where your gameplan will be holding you back. What characters in this game have a gameplan that requires more IQ than other characters then?
So...? How does he knows? He is not even a top player to begin with. How he has a credible opinion?
Bing bong
All I’m seeing is Lidias. Lidias everywhere
Bison is s tier.
@BajanCreation Yes! Please, who are the 6 strongest characters in the first season for you??
Bison clearly broken. But obviously that was an intentional dlc decision. They'll release the real Bison that they've been saving since before launch when they release Terry. Then Terry will probably be the broken char. Gotta get those dlc sales.
It's been happening for more than a decade, but people still act shocked whenever overturned DLC characters are released.
Aki and Ed were both mid tier on release
Nah I think Terry safely lands in A tier if he plays like he always does. And I hope Akuma and Bison is the last of the busted DLC before Sagat. Cuz I know he bout to be busted.
@@PoojaMan64those two characters also needed time to develop, people were too quick to say they were bad! Aki got insane buffs, Ed pretty much stayed the same but Momochi helped everyone figure out the character at an optimal level, it was always very obvious that a lot of people didn't have Ed matchup experience at EVO lol.
I hope they release more characters like Sim, Aki, Ed and Rashid... it's very satisfying actually having to learn so many things for different matchups instead of having the exact same game plan for everything.
Yea I hate the og costume 13:14
Even if they did add the horse into the actual gameplay, there's no way it can compare to the likes of Johnny Joestar, Gyro Zeppeli and Diego Brando. JoJo horsies are GODLIKE.
Akuma bottom 5
I remember when Sajam said he was the best character in the game. He WILL denied this but there's video proof he said this.
Show me the clip. Pretty sure he said he is maybe the best. Maybe does not mean is.
He is top tier imo.
The persepective from someone who is plainly "just not that bad" at the game (me), sitting in diamond... is that Bison is fucking unfair and boring to play against.
Too many stuff from the game's main mechanics force you to play the way bison likes to play... and if you ever whiff his wombo combo takes simply too much life.
He seems like a very low risk high reward character that wants to scramble (touch everything) in case he gets to be ahead you will lose at least a third of your life while he carries you half a screen in to the border to start betting what comes next.
VERY BORING TO PLAY AGAINST and for that I only play Bo1s against Bisons.
Now, you may call me "just bad" "get good" and It would be fair, but I reallllllly fucking hate Bison.
I don't think he's TOO strong, but definitely boring to play against, he's like a reverse guile, downbacks all game doing hard to punish things except he moves forwards instead of backwards, to me the problem is if he messes up his scissor kicks spacing, the best punish you can get is off a jab and he will be so far that it will be a jab into a special at best, you just have to keep waiting for him to mess up or to be in the corner before you're allowed to play against him, ex psycho crusher is also WAYYYY too good, now THAT is a broken move in my opinion.
di into sthp isnt great cause its super cancellable
Top 5 characters Rashid, guile, bison, Ryu, Ken in that order
Replace bison with akuma
Akuma is 6th for me he isn’t as bad as bison or bison is 6th
But I feel Ryu and Ken are better then akuma
Bison has the best offense of the game, but he has the worst defense as well, this is why he is not an S tier character.
Its not possible to be consistent enough.
But he doesn't have the worst defense his level 1 super alone gives him a better defensive option than Zangief Dhalsim Marisa etc
@@Gleapgoogleplusisgone no bro, his lvl 1 super is slow enough to be baited by meaty jab. His lvl 2 is the same. Only lvl 3 is true reversal.
Marisa, Dhalsim and Zangief at least have a lvl 2 that its true reversal.
@@vini1249 his level 1 super is 8 frames faster than Zangiefs level 2 and Dhalsims level 2 loses to all meaty low attacks.
It's not even close his defensive options are vastly better than multiple characters.
It took me one day of play to get him to master and zero times was I meaningfully held back by his defensive options. Sure meaty jab can in theory bait it but again heavy sweep beats Dhalsims level 2 even lol and meaty mediums beat Giefs 2 on some characters.
Marisa is just straight up worse bison. He can do everything she can do better other than if she blows twice his super bar her 2 is a frame faster than bisons 1.
@@Gleapgoogleplusisgone you are comparing with low tier characters, and this speak for its own.
Get Master is not difficult with anyone if you know how to play fundamentals. In a competitive lvl, his defense is bad, he only has lvl 3 as a true reversal, so he is not comparable with top tier characters
@@Gleapgoogleplusisgone dont bother the Bison downplay army isnt gonna listen
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Who is brian f? Why not ask me or the bum down the street
BrianF has been a strong player for many years in SFV. He consistently top 8s majors.
Has to be trolling. Has to. No one is this dumb.
Brian F is a Bison main so of course he is going to downplay him. Meanwhile he considers Chun Li S tier. Dude is a joke. I stopped taking that dude seriously a long time ago.
Pretty sure he's playing Ed still
Dawg 😂 it ain't that deep, why tf yall so offended, is it that hard to believe there's people with other opinion and experiences?
Damn calm down, it’s a video game 😭
@@KALSKingdom fr, buddy got too excited on his keyboard
@@theunamedpotatoBro is talking like Brian slept with his wife