i honestly wonder if toby legitimately had fun making this or if this was some behemoth demon song to him that he dreaded the very thought of creating and it still gives him nightmares to this day
Their worst enemies at the beginning: Their own inventory systems Their worst enemies at the end: An evil space empress who could juggle planets with her mind, several versions of the same guy who all became ridiculously overpowered through various means, and a hulked-out space pimp who destroys entire timelines for fun
the funny is that LE is above Andrew Hussie, who fiction HS(paradox space) which has a group o acausal beings(horroterrors) that controls an infinite nothingess(the furthest ring) that has the platonic concepts(the aspects) of reality, this nothingness contained an infinite hierarchy of creators, with each creator trascending the creator below, and then you have a genesis frog which contains infinite timelines, and there are infinite genesis frogs
@@Johnof1000Suns i'd say LE actually exceeds that, hussie was the writer and he got demolished by him. theoretically, he's omnipotent and could penetrate the 4th wall to kill us all
@@cultofmel he literally wrote a song that's now in an official nintendo game for a nintendo rom hack, and used the same soundfont for the version in the official game
Yeah its like you decide to mash up modern and classic Rpg music like there is a game that allows you travel time like between old and new also the battle music would change depending of what time you are right now like past of future that what's this song made me feel like
What would you even categorize this song as? Circus Rock? I've never heard such a ridiculous array of sounds you would hear at a carnival make something so adrenaline pumping.
As a person who was fascinated with Homestuck for a time and a half, I never actually got to read the whole thing, but after hearing this song so many times and jamming out at the chanting parts, it makes me want to go back to reading it. One more thing I'll say for those who want to start reading Homestuck: Any part you skip in this whole story (no matter how big or small) is like going to the bathroom while forgetting to pause Regular Show.
Did anyone else actually sort of like the Undertale reference in here with Davepetesprite^2? I mean, Undertale's fandom can be pretty crazy, but it was a tribute to Toby Fox, the basement loiterer who wrote music for us...
As far as I'm aware production on [s] collide started around a year before it was released (October 2016), meaning Undertale had likely been out for a couple months before the music production started.
No, because that was one part of the very beginning and it was never what Homestuck was "just about". That's kinda like saying "Remember when Pokemon was just about some kid not being allowed to leave town without a chaperone?"
@@Horsehater500 the final trainer battle music, though i'd recommend not searching it until you finish the game since youtubers love to spoil shit in thumbnails
+Trixster009 "A leitmotif or leitmotiv /ˌlaɪtmoʊˈtiːf/ is a "short, constantly recurring musical phrase" associated with a particular person, place, or idea. It is closely related to the musical concepts of idée fixe or motto-theme." - Wikipedia
or they simply dont understand it. i experienced people who believe it to be "a bunch of random, no-sense making panels thatarent connected to eachother whatsoever that where made by someone on drugs literally"
Ehh, people are always claiming that really imaginative stuff is just the product of drug use. It's dumb. As Salvadore Dali once said, "I don't _do_ drugs. I _am_ drugs."
at 2:08 i always get chills. it reminds me of the words of John's dad; "I'm proud of you, son" (this is the part where Jane and Nanasprite heal them and support the fight
can't we just appreciate Toby for continuously giving us bops? like, i love homestuck, i love undertale, both soundtracks do a great job for their respective content
Let's see... I hear Rex Doudecim Angelus, English, Crystalmathequins, Karkat's Theme, Black... that's all the Homestuck related themes I can hear... am I missing something?
+Monodoof There's also a snippet that appears repeatedly in Cascade that starts at 1:27 and then from 4:42 to 4:54 there's Umbral Ultimatum/Penumbra Phantasm, part of which was apparently made to sound like Doctor.
I don't think it works, narratively, if true. But I'm going to wait until I can muster the attention span for a) a more detailed reading of this post and b) a complete reread of Homestuck until I actually make up my mind. :P
4:26 My favorite part of this section of Collide, mostly because Jade plays bass, and just hearing those notes, just makes me all fuzzy inside realizing that this is the last actual fight between PM and Bec Noir.
Oppa toby style is better then MEGALOVANIA in my book, but it is a vastly different song and it's catchy and every new version sounds unique, toby is a musical genius.
I actually showed my mom UT Megalovania, she didn't like it. I showed her the Homestuck/Earthbound Version, and she loved it! Also, I love all of Toby's music. My personal favourites are Finale from UT and Black
@@herrabananii wasn’t really around during the big bang of the homestuck fandom so to speak, so i have no clue. it’s funnier personally to assume that toby named it himself though.
+Rippertear AKA SDL Benjii TGPASOTSISAPROA(THR)STTLOYTYVMDFTBYTBCTSAASPIYH Actually using only the leitmotif isn't a copyright issue. It's just the tune and timing of the music. It would be a problem if he used the exact same music. But even if he wanted, he could, since he is the author. PS: Hate to break it to ya, but you have a really long name.
@@wimberlen I disagree, Homestuck is when he could unleash his power: for UT/DR he had to compose everything, write most of the story and dialogues, code a lot, test everything was ok, while in Homestuck he only had to compose and wasn't even the only one. Making his own games means he physically doesn't have time to completely dedicate to music (and somehow he still makes only bangers), but in Homestuck he had everything at his disposal, in fact he had free time while composing that he used to... write Undertale.
If a song: -Starts with Rex Duodecim Angelus and English -Has Black, Karkat's theme, Cascade, Penumbra Phantasm, and Killed By Br8k Spider!!!!!!! in the middle -Ends with Liquid Negrocity Then it is definitely an awesome song.
@@hopelessamaturerougeofhope4399 same, but I knew about hs before undertale, I was young, and on TH-cam and found s wake and was like “cool, but w a t” cus I was like 5. Then I found undertale in 2016 and fanboyed hard, but kinda forgot about s wake so, I was basically a hs fan first (not really doe)
usmc kyuubi psshshshsh what do u mean........................................ i started reading in fcuking feb adn then finished april 13th. So yeah finished it in 2 months
I DID AND IT WAS WORTH IT And then finished the rest at the same time, then went to my bed and fell asleep crying because it that, it was the best day ever :,)
It's super sad that HS has essentially completely died out. I feel like a lot of things could have been done differently to ensure it was a cult classic instead of having it die in a few months and have a shitty rep
Partly hussie's fault for not properly taking care of the comic, dealing with making that HS game took such a toll on the comic and fucked up SO many things. His worst mistake was giving the series to the twitter fanbase, it's only gone downhill since.
It hasn’t died out, the fanbase just moved on to different things. I still see it everywhere, all the fans are extremely self-aware, and pretty critical of the comic- which thankfully has given it a better reputation. I’m sure Homestuck will see a resurgence, either from something official or something fan-made. Personally, I’m remaking Homestuck in a style reminiscent of Spider-Verse and the epilogue pages right after [S] Collide. It’s been in the works for a year and half now. I have high hopes for it, I’ve spoken with so many people who’s works I’ve admired for so long because of this project, and the feedback has been good. So who knows, maybe that will help boost Homestuck up a bit. Either way, a remake from me or someone else is inevitable
+Sans The Skeleton B) it's much easier to hear with headphones. Didn't notice it at all the many times I watched Collide but as soon as I got the OST and heard it with headphones it was obvious.
Y'know even if the song wasnt called Oppa Toby Style, You'd still know that Toby Fox made this song, that piano at 4:43 is the most dead giveaway possible.
Sounds like something that would play during the final boss battle of an RPG where reality itself is collapsing around the party while they are fighting a shapeshifting amalgamation that changes into a new form every turn.
Does "reality breaking because of a time machine that is leaking impossibility strong and aggressive monsters from the future/past as well as strange energy crystals, all causing a cataclysmic ecological collapse, while you are forced to find the unwilling AI of of the man/woman who wanted this to happen in the name of science" work?
watching [S]: Collide, hearing this song’s buildup, and promptly having the sudden intense part scare the shit out of you is a universal experience, right?
If you tap your finger (or foot or whatever), 1:22-1:28 has 16 taps. Knowing Toby, this could be a nod to Mother 3's musical combos where it maxes out at 16 pushes of the A button depending on the battle music.
@@melancholymaids3032 I'm in the middle of reading Homestuck so yeah I've heard that motif in Doctor now. It's interesting that Toby continued its used, or at least a similar melody, in CORE!
2:47 Ta taratadata taratadata, WAH WAH Ta taratadata taratadata, WAH WAH Ta taratadata taratadata, WAH WAH Ta taratadata taratadata, WAH WAH WAH Ta taratadata taratadata, WAH WAH Ta taratadata taratadata, WAH WAH Ta taratadata taratadata, WAH WAH Ta ra ta taratata ta ta ta rata ta-taratata ta-taratata TA TA TA TA ta-taratata ta-taratata TARA TATARA TA TA ta-taratata ta-taratata TA TA TA TA ta-taratata TARA TATARA TATARA TATARA RRRRR tarataratratataratarataratratatararatratatara tarataratratataratarataratratatararatratatara Chorus: "Ta ta ta ta taaaa taratata ta taaaaa! (taaa!) Ta ta ta ta taaaa taratata ta taaaaa! (taaa! TAAA! taaa!)" Ta ta ta, ta ta, taratada, ta ta Tara ta, tada, taratadadada Ta ta ta, ta ta, taratada, ta ta Ta ta ta da, taratadadada taaaaaaaaaaaa raaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa taaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa *** (totally not death by glamour riff here) (same but more hardcore) Ta taratadata taratadata taratadata taratadata taratadata taratadata taratadata taratadata taratadata taratadata taratadata taratadata taratadata taratadata taratadata taratadata TA TA TA TADA TADA TA-TA-DA TA TA TA TADA TADA TA-TA-DA TADARA TADADARA TADA DARA TADARA TADADARA TA TADARA TADADARA TADA DARA TADARA TADADARA TA TA TA TA TA TA TA TARA TA TA TA TA TA TA TA TA TARA TA (rrrr) TA TA TA TA TA TA TA TARA TA (youuuuuuush) YOUUUUUUUUSH TA RA TA DA TA RA DA DA TA RA TA DA DA TARADA TADA TA DA DA TA RA TA DA TA RA DA DA TA RA TA DA DA TARADA TADA TA DA DA TARADA TADA TA DA DA TARADA TADA TA DA DA TARADA TADA TA DA DA
It's not. Well, kind of. It's Doctor but modified to sound like CORE, because that segment of the battle is an "Undertale Boss Fight" against LE. (Not playable but it looks like one)
@@lunactiathemoth I mean that's the point of Gaster's theme. It's so simple that you could hear it anywhere if you paid close attention, because he's supposed to be everywhere. Considering Collide came after Undertale, I wouldn't be surprised if he actually did sneak in just to mess with people.
![Homestuck: [S] Collide Track 3 - Eternity, Served Cold (Canon Edit)](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/Ow8PeoCrfcg/mqdefault.jpg)
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Homestuck is just the ultimate rpg joke. Page 1: avoid john’s father
Page 8000: defeat the indestructible lord of the very concept of time
True anime stakes
regular show pacing
There is no difference
Kirby
Happy tree friends creators making episodes
i honestly wonder if toby legitimately had fun making this or if this was some behemoth demon song to him that he dreaded the very thought of creating and it still gives him nightmares to this day
Holly Berries i like to think a little bit of both
this is toby fox we're talking about, its both
Both, both is good
I am pretty sure toby's mind is the demon in that scenario.
like everything in homestuck, a bit of both
i truly believe this is toby fox’s bohemian rhapsody
Their worst enemies at the beginning: Their own inventory systems
Their worst enemies at the end: An evil space empress who could juggle planets with her mind, several versions of the same guy who all became ridiculously overpowered through various means, and a hulked-out space pimp who destroys entire timelines for fun
i will now refer to LE as a “hulked-out space pimp”, thanks
the funny is that LE is above Andrew Hussie, who fiction HS(paradox space) which has a group o acausal beings(horroterrors) that controls an infinite nothingess(the furthest ring) that has the platonic concepts(the aspects) of reality, this nothingness contained an infinite hierarchy of creators, with each creator trascending the creator below, and then you have a genesis frog which contains infinite timelines, and there are infinite genesis frogs
It’s like the jrpg meme.
Hour 1: help rescue cat from tree
Hour 30: kill god.
@@Johnof1000Suns i'd say LE actually exceeds that, hussie was the writer and he got demolished by him. theoretically, he's omnipotent and could penetrate the 4th wall to kill us all
@@jeremiasmartinez6279 you have a 2005 meme face as your profile pic, stfu
HE CANT KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH THIS, HE GOT ANOTHER SONG IN POKEMON.
At least he was a bit more subtle this time
OH MOTHERFUCKER FIRST THE MPREG SONG AND NOW THIS
I DONT HEAR IT WHATS THE TIMESTAMP
@@mileshunter6978 there’s no melody this time, it’s really just the baseline and beat
@@numbaonemeenahfan5193 ah ok
I love that everyone says to not use soundfonts and toby is like "bro fuck this shit imma use 100 soundfonts"
who says not to use soundfonts?
@@magicant_ people say it is illegal to use soundfonts without permission
@@alicevitoriano oh lol ive committed crimes
@@magicant_ dont worry toby literally ripped nintendo sounds and put them in deltarune
@@cultofmel he literally wrote a song that's now in an official nintendo game for a nintendo rom hack, and used the same soundfont for the version in the official game
why is the best boss music out there from a comic like damn son
because Homestuck.
Im pretty sure Homestuck is one of the only webcomics that has music.
MakinMcMakin Never read it, but I think Cucumber Quest does as well? Ik that Toby did a theme for one of the characters in it.
Oh okay ill check it out.
that charater was noisemaker
This sounds - rather fittingly - like several RPG battles going on simultaneously.
that is basicly what the flash animation is
@@morgankasper5227 Hence the "rather fittingly"!
Yeah its like you decide to mash up modern and classic Rpg music like there is a game that allows you travel time like between old and new also the battle music would change depending of what time you are right now like past of future that what's this song made me feel like
What makes that even more fitting is that at 1:09 Toby sampled from FF6--that's the "voice" of Ralse from the opera scene.
@13. Ghani Ziyad Sagiansyah funny, it was remixed for a game about time travel... except it wasn't Chrono Trigger
it was POKÉMON
This is the most Toby Fox song I've ever heard.
"probably a gangam style remix" intensifies
"I was wrong." -The8BitDrummer's last words.
"This is ridiculous" -The8BitDrummer's last-last words
I mean, this song is about as chaotic as the Gangnam Style music video
We should have warned him about those stairs...
Happy Honey nah, we told him dawg.
What would you even categorize this song as? Circus Rock? I've never heard such a ridiculous array of sounds you would hear at a carnival make something so adrenaline pumping.
upvote for circus rock tbh
if 'Circus Rock' isn't already a thing this song *makes* it a thing
It probs counts as prog rock
Cryptonaut Maybe Alt rock? Idk...
Since the world revolving its also a thing. Maybe Circus roundrock?
As a person who was fascinated with Homestuck for a time and a half, I never actually got to read the whole thing, but after hearing this song so many times and jamming out at the chanting parts, it makes me want to go back to reading it.
One more thing I'll say for those who want to start reading Homestuck: Any part you skip in this whole story (no matter how big or small) is like going to the bathroom while forgetting to pause Regular Show.
@@nischmath the unofficial Homestuck collection I think?
@@nischmath the unofficial homestuck archive, but I’m on mobile and it doesn’t work so u gotta be on desktop I think
Reas the gamefaqs in the beginning too, they help clarify stuff if you dont understand it
@@theharvinator holy shit thank you so much for this
@@exist4046 yeah np
This makes math far more intense than math should be
You just described Problem Sleuth
👏👏👏👏NFNSJDKS....Yeah
A Bird Lover This joke made me choke way longer than it should have
math is math
I don't get it
I can’t believe it took until Scarlet and Violets final boss theme for me to stumble across all of Toby’s Homestuck work
Welcome to the dark side friend.
ah yes, another member of the "I just played funny monster rpg game what the fuck is going on"
i thought I was the only one
now read homestuck
@@Shanothian
@@Shanothian *join us.*
I legitimately forgot this was named “Oppa Toby Style”
For the past 2.5 years my mind just autocorrected this to “collide”
i thought this was just called 2 collide lol
Remember when things falling out of John’s capachalauge were your biggest problems
Doodoopancakes
Ah yes, the good old days when we thought John's hatred of Betty Crocker was completely baseless.
Yep the good old days when I didn’t even know about the trolls and cherubs
The good old days with bathtubs on staircases.
The good old days of not being able to lift a fridge.
remember the semi-mental-breakdown over gushers being made by Betty Crocker?
Is anyone going to fucking mention how amazing the crowd chants in the background are
Those chants just send that headbanging part's euphoric levels through the stratosphere
I like to think its all the MSPA Readers watching and cheering at the action
Sword and shield vibes
@@Filipokerface It is, man.
@@Vainglory100 more like sword and shield have homestuck vibes
Did anyone else actually sort of like the Undertale reference in here with Davepetesprite^2? I mean, Undertale's fandom can be pretty crazy, but it was a tribute to Toby Fox, the basement loiterer who wrote music for us...
Homestuck came out before Undertale.
Legodev no duh
Legodev this flash came out after Undertale tho
Xtra3678 animations Oh. Wasn't the music being produced before Undertale?
As far as I'm aware production on [s] collide started around a year before it was released (October 2016), meaning Undertale had likely been out for a couple months before the music production started.
Remember when homestuck was just about some kid wearing a disguise who got in a fight with his dad because he didn’t want to eat cake?
I am on act 5 part 2 but yeah and remember when the plot wasn't all over the gosh darn place
And he was mistakenly named as Zoosmell Pooplord.
No, because that was one part of the very beginning and it was never what Homestuck was "just about". That's kinda like saying "Remember when Pokemon was just about some kid not being allowed to leave town without a chaperone?"
I can’t fucking believe Toby reused parts of this song for Pokémon Scarlet and Violet
for which song?
@@FluffyViviEubulus
The professor battle theme
@@victorholmes5225 I also hear it for the antagonist team leader theme
but in the professor battle theme not so much
He did WHAT
I guess there's Homestuck in pokemon now wtf
once again, toby sneaks homestuck into pokemon
@@Horsehater500 the final trainer battle music, though i'd recommend not searching it until you finish the game since youtubers love to spoil shit in thumbnails
@@utsuho_reiuji what pokemon game you mean?
@@lmao-420 scarlet and violet, forgot to mention lol
to be fair this track already has quite the pokemon vibe to it so it makes sense
This is the ultimate leitmotif track.
I thought it was called fraymotif?
+Trixster009
"A leitmotif or leitmotiv /ˌlaɪtmoʊˈtiːf/ is a "short, constantly recurring musical phrase" associated with a particular person, place, or idea. It is closely related to the musical concepts of idée fixe or motto-theme." - Wikipedia
Oh, I misinterpreted what you were saying. My bad.
+Frikiman Huh? This? And not Descend? I only counted seven different references to other Homestuck Songs in this track.
+monkeyboyinc To be fair, Toby also made Descend.
Why is everything so wonderful
homestuck that's why.
a lot of people hate homestuck for one of these reasons
1. don't have patience
2. can't read yet
or they simply dont understand it. i experienced people who believe it to be "a bunch of random, no-sense making panels thatarent connected to eachother whatsoever that where made by someone on drugs literally"
I mean he might've been, but that's what makes it awesome. Not the drug part.
Ehh, people are always claiming that really imaginative stuff is just the product of drug use. It's dumb. As Salvadore Dali once said, "I don't _do_ drugs. I _am_ drugs."
at 2:08 i always get chills. it reminds me of the words of John's dad; "I'm proud of you, son" (this is the part where Jane and Nanasprite heal them and support the fight
Timothy Lamb Thanks, that hurt me emotionally.
King k rool
That part reminds me of deltarune
@@RikuMcduck 86yruyugff
and it’s a sped up version of that song that plays when vriska and terezi try to kill each other ☺️
Toby Fox, the best Fox.
Shut up jude
dang. Still a good song though.
What does Toby say?
good annoying dog
best friend
cough
cough
this song wasn't just made by toby
others helped
0:45-1:09
oooooOOOOOOOOOOH SHHHIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIT
Undertale fans: Megalovania is Tobys best work of music
Homestuck fans: haha ok whatever you say
I'm an Undertale fan and Megalovania is not even on the list of Toby's good music
What kind of fuckboy would say that? Megalovania isn't even the best song in Undertale.
so true
not at all. People who played every run will say, that megalovania is far from being the 'best' track. Including me.
can't we just appreciate Toby for continuously giving us bops?
like, i love homestuck, i love undertale, both soundtracks do a great job for their respective content
Let's see... I hear Rex Doudecim Angelus, English, Crystalmathequins, Karkat's Theme, Black... that's all the Homestuck related themes I can hear... am I missing something?
+Monodoof Splatoon, Undertale (3 songs?), Mario Paint and Final Fantasy
+Monodoof There's also a snippet that appears repeatedly in Cascade that starts at 1:27 and then from 4:42 to 4:54 there's Umbral Ultimatum/Penumbra Phantasm, part of which was apparently made to sound like Doctor.
Yeah i did hear the snippet of Penumbra Phantasm on the re-hearing, nice catch!
At 4:20 theres some death by glamour.
It's not. that part was from Cascade
Admittedly, I'm going to say [S] Collide was more of an ending than the actual ending.
This was the climax. The rest was falling action.
+Nathan Wilburn wot
+Nathan Wilburn not at all what the ending was
+Nathan Wilburn ...explain your thought process, here?
I don't think it works, narratively, if true. But I'm going to wait until I can muster the attention span for a) a more detailed reading of this post and b) a complete reread of Homestuck until I actually make up my mind. :P
That is to say, I'm not saying your interpretation is wrong, just that if it was Hussie's intended reading, I find it ultimately kind of a letdown.
all it needs now is some trumpets and you have a touhou song
Call Hoenn, they might be able to provide some
Man wheres Merlin Prismriver when you need her.
@@ChanivonKarpa You Have The Key, Master
@@AM-nh3np I dunno what does that mean, but ye
They aren’t trumpets they’re zunpets
4:26 My favorite part of this section of Collide, mostly because Jade plays bass, and just hearing those notes, just makes me all fuzzy inside realizing that this is the last actual fight between PM and Bec Noir.
Never realised jade bass was so similar to power of neo
HE CANT KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH THIS
He most definitely can it's like
Kind of his thing
I dunno jack about Homestuck, but knowing that its music is part of not one, but two Pokemon themes is sending me.
literally 😭
One of those songs was spawned by a shitpost by Toby.
@@infinityheart_tm9270 said song is also about a boy giving birth to his best friend
you don’t know… what?
@@ChisaiSurienAsh You heard em.
Undertale Fans: Toby Fox's music in UT is the best!
Homestucks: *instantly start seizing on the floor rhythmically*
Oppa toby style is better then MEGALOVANIA in my book, but it is a vastly different song and it's catchy and every new version sounds unique, toby is a musical genius.
no one said megalovania or oppa toby style but ok
i like both and i think it's all good content. i don't really understand comparing the two tbh
I actually showed my mom UT Megalovania, she didn't like it. I showed her the Homestuck/Earthbound Version, and she loved it!
Also, I love all of Toby's music. My personal favourites are Finale from UT and Black
@@dancingcarapace don't forget hopes and dreams. in my opinion the best song toby has ever made.
Came back cause someone said rouxls kaard’s theme uses the same ‘hey’ audio sample as oppa toby style
*Listens To The First 17 Seconds* Ah This Is Nice *the Music Blares Out The Speakers At A Fast Tempo* JEGUS CRIST
Karkat: WHAT ASSHAT! OH MY GOG , REALLY!? OVER MUSIC!? *listens* ...HEY THIS ISN'T HALF BAD!
try 2x speed
jegus crikey
Do .75 speed holy shiiiiiit it's creepy and awesome
413th like
glad to see we're all coming back here
This is genuinely the most apeshit song I’ve ever heard in my life.
Toby is a god
Toby is god.
i really love how out of ANYTHING he could have named this, he chose fucking oppa toby style.
Didn't the fan base vote on the name of this? Just like the h1tler song?
Nah I believe it was James who named this one
And please do not call it the "h1ttler" song c'mon
@@herrabananii wasn’t really around during the big bang of the homestuck fandom so to speak, so i have no clue. it’s funnier personally to assume that toby named it himself though.
@@herrabananijust call it PPISHWA
I was expecting psy and undertale memes. Thank goodness its actually this: an amazing track
"Undertale memes"
heh
Well, one part of it has actually the same leitmotif as Death By Glamour.
+Aktm Magik well, a very similar. Not _exactly_ the same. then Toby would have to sue himself.
Kappa
+Rippertear AKA SDL Benjii TGPASOTSISAPROA(THR)STTLOYTYVMDFTBYTBCTSAASPIYH
Actually using only the leitmotif isn't a copyright issue. It's just the tune and timing of the music. It would be a problem if he used the exact same music. But even if he wanted, he could, since he is the author.
PS: Hate to break it to ya, but you have a really long name.
I know, I'm making a joke.
PS: that's my initials.Aktm Magik
Toby’s music in Homestuck is actually God’s work wtf. It’s like with Undertale he toned everything down, but with Homestuck he went all out.
homestuck was toby when he couldnt control his power
@@wimberlen I disagree, Homestuck is when he could unleash his power: for UT/DR he had to compose everything, write most of the story and dialogues, code a lot, test everything was ok, while in Homestuck he only had to compose and wasn't even the only one. Making his own games means he physically doesn't have time to completely dedicate to music (and somehow he still makes only bangers), but in Homestuck he had everything at his disposal, in fact he had free time while composing that he used to... write Undertale.
Surely Toby's true Magnum Opus is his album "The Baby Is You"? 🙂
The one that we were literally forbidden to mention on the official MSPA forums.
It's a thematic choice more than anything. Toby still makes some crazy music.
Deltarune's music is going to have way more effort put in because UT was just the starting game@@KyrieFortune
Toby was holding back with THE WORLD REVOLVING
This is the *True* and Neo Chaos
How in the hell was karkats theme mixed into a 5 minute boss theme
If a song:
-Starts with Rex Duodecim Angelus and English
-Has Black, Karkat's theme, Cascade, Penumbra Phantasm, and Killed By Br8k Spider!!!!!!! in the middle
-Ends with Liquid Negrocity
Then it is definitely an awesome song.
Crystalanthemums as well
True.
And doctor
man i can't wait to fight lord english in a pokemon battle
I'm an Undertale fan, but gotta say, my inner Homestuck is jamming.
True true
Tru e
I was a undertale (still kinda is) but i love Toby's homestuck themes better
@@hopelessamaturerougeofhope4399 same, but I knew about hs before undertale, I was young, and on TH-cam and found s wake and was like “cool, but w a t” cus I was like 5.
Then I found undertale in 2016 and fanboyed hard, but kinda forgot about s wake so, I was basically a hs fan first (not really doe)
@@theharvinator how was it to see feferi and nepeta die when you was 5?
Here's the Finale Strife Music we've been waiting for.
When you thought HYPE couldn't get anymore HYPE'D.
lmao
+OneColdRepublican amazing
Liam Fennelly
Basically the greatest rave mix in all paradox space.
+OneColdRepublican
ParaFox Space* FTFY -u -
+Dont Even Bother
YYYYYYES.
thumbs up if you stayed up all night just to watch this
me
Me
usmc kyuubi psshshshsh what do u mean........................................ i started reading in fcuking feb adn then finished april 13th. So yeah finished it in 2 months
I DID AND IT WAS WORTH IT
And then finished the rest at the same time, then went to my bed and fell asleep crying because it that, it was the best day ever :,)
413 bro
I really love those first 16 seconds of this track.
Shadow Mantis yeah, especially from ascend into this
What a8out the rest of this track?
You'd love Rex Duodecim Angelus
The lesson here is. Evil can kill practically anything. But these damn kids just won't die
I found this before I started reading (i joined the day it ended shush) and I thought [S] Collide was a band.
We should make it a thing, let's be that band
I call keyboard/piano
your local cat No hate. everyone finds it in their own time. Welcome to hell!
I started on around August 2017
Dont judge meh
I call keyboard/laptop
Ha
I found it at the beginning of September, and throughout October I have infected my D&D group
It's super sad that HS has essentially completely died out. I feel like a lot of things could have been done differently to ensure it was a cult classic instead of having it die in a few months and have a shitty rep
Partly hussie's fault for not properly taking care of the comic, dealing with making that HS game took such a toll on the comic and fucked up SO many things. His worst mistake was giving the series to the twitter fanbase, it's only gone downhill since.
@@honeycrisp808 100% agree
The epilogues definitely didn't help. Confused people who had no idea what the deal was and upset everyone who read them.
Follow more artists / creators, folks like jasproses have been doin great thinkpieces / discussions on characters like the meta of Jake English!
It hasn’t died out, the fanbase just moved on to different things. I still see it everywhere, all the fans are extremely self-aware, and pretty critical of the comic- which thankfully has given it a better reputation. I’m sure Homestuck will see a resurgence, either from something official or something fan-made.
Personally, I’m remaking Homestuck in a style reminiscent of Spider-Verse and the epilogue pages right after [S] Collide. It’s been in the works for a year and half now. I have high hopes for it, I’ve spoken with so many people who’s works I’ve admired for so long because of this project, and the feedback has been good.
So who knows, maybe that will help boost Homestuck up a bit. Either way, a remake from me or someone else is inevitable
undertale fans: megalovania is the best song by toby
homestucks: honey, you got a big storm coming
deltarune fans: *hahahahahahahhahahahahAhAhAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA*
Stockhuems fans: I agree with the delta runs guys
they gotta put this back on 🔴
SaggyHaggis jevil be like “bitch please, I can do anything.”
@@razziechkn [S] Collide: Allow us to introduce our selves.
1:08 Are those sound effects from the Earthbound eshop trailer?
Toby Fox really is a big Mother fan isn’t he?
Old comment I know, but I always thought of the ff6 opera male vocal
I also know this is an old comment, but they come from dancing mad in ff6
the vocal thing is from touhou.sf2
@@gooolixx It's Ralse from FF6's opera.
Are they referring to the sound of Opera or the sound what was going on before?
I forgot how good this song was
Virgin Oppa Gangnam Style vs Chad Oppa Toby Style
hearing this in deltarune is gonna be crazy
the fucking mario paint/dogsong barks starting around ~0:45 if you listen closely
TOBY.......
+hip indeed Oppa toby style!
+hip indeed I HEAR A FAINT SOFT BARKING
oml
+Sans The Skeleton B) it's much easier to hear with headphones. Didn't notice it at all the many times I watched Collide but as soon as I got the OST and heard it with headphones it was obvious.
Oppa *Toby* (Dog) Style
He planned it all
Oh heck someone was right, it is the final boss battle theme from Pokemon Scarlet and Violet!! Well one part!!
Homestuck may not be a video game, but its music is definitely video game music.
Nobody:
The crowd watching gym leaders battle in Sword and Shield: 1:23
Lmfao foreshadowing
Y'know even if the song wasnt called Oppa Toby Style, You'd still know that Toby Fox made this song, that piano at 4:43 is the most dead giveaway possible.
Sounds like something that would play during the final boss battle of an RPG where reality itself is collapsing around the party while they are fighting a shapeshifting amalgamation that changes into a new form every turn.
Does "reality breaking because of a time machine that is leaking impossibility strong and aggressive monsters from the future/past as well as strange energy crystals, all causing a cataclysmic ecological collapse, while you are forced to find the unwilling AI of of the man/woman who wanted this to happen in the name of science" work?
watching [S]: Collide, hearing this song’s buildup, and promptly having the sudden intense part scare the shit out of you is a universal experience, right?
*[S]* : Vs professor Sada / Turo
I. hurt my neck listening to this. I am headbobbing forwards and back at such speeds and so continuously that now my neck is sore lmfao
This makes petting my dog much crazier.
4:20 "Cascade" Leitmotif, not "Death by Glamour" Leitmotif.
4:42 "Penumbra Phantasm" Leitmotif, not "Death by Glamour" Leitmotif.
Friendly Coy
thank you.
It is possible that Death by Glamour was at least partially based on those songs
@@CGlover-e1y
More than likely
Really i think its those 2 spngs being mixed to sound like DBG on purpose which is pretty cool
thank you for this.
And everyone thought Megalovania was Toby's best battle track. HA.
XD
kinda
Megalovania was from homestuck lmao
@@vexanine2243 _Earthbound Halloween Hack_
@@thisthing9032 oh fuck mb
*I legitimately thought this was an oppa gangnam style cover...*
can we all agree that 2:08 is the best part??
4:04
E| ^
ONE PUNCH DAD!!!!
*one cake
that part was fucking awesome
WARNING! WARNING!
Here comes a new challenger!
fun fact: james roach added the cheering sounds for no reason at all. he just thought itd be funny.
Genius
Toby's true masterpiece.
The baby is you
Not exactly because we got ut/dr and battle towers annnd little town hero
I wanted to comment about how much I love 2:07, but
4:04 DAD PUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUNCH!!!
If you tap your finger (or foot or whatever), 1:22-1:28 has 16 taps. Knowing Toby, this could be a nod to Mother 3's musical combos where it maxes out at 16 pushes of the A button depending on the battle music.
That'd be very fitting, seeing as Homestuck was actually inspired by EarthBound to begin with.
Fair, but it could just also be that the song follows a 4/4 rhythm, and so will always land on 16 as a new beat
dude just discovered basic music theory
@@crikisthat I'm a gamer, not a musician.
4:42 Is it just me or does the piano sound similar to the chords in CORE? I wonder if Toby reused yet another motif.
Yeah it really does.
that leitmotif is from doctor, who’s prototype, patient, used the core motif. so yeah they’re connected
@@melancholymaids3032 I'm in the middle of reading Homestuck so yeah I've heard that motif in Doctor now. It's interesting that Toby continued its used, or at least a similar melody, in CORE!
Throughout the track he also used a piece of Death By Glamour, and at one point he sneaks in Gaster's theme.
You just gave me an idea where this plays while you have to escape the core melting down
You know what?
This would make a killer osu! beat map.
so many streams ;^;
... I SHALL TAKE THIS CHALLENGE EVENTUALLY
SANS Good luck getting it modded and ranked tho lmao
Bright Gibson *shrug* if the big black did, what's stopping this nightmare?
SANS True
Is this a place only Sanses are allowed?
"so toby, which beats do you want to accent?"
"yes"
0:22 to 1:07 is my absolute favorite part of the song it just scratches an itch in my brain ugh so FIRE
Anyone else after hearing this in the newest toby adition to Pokemon? lmao he did it again, and im here for it
0:00 - 0:18
Ok, this is probably leading up to some epic anime battle theme, probably pretty majestic.
0:18 - 0:20
Ok, let's g-
0:21
*HOLY SHIT!*
2:47
Ta taratadata taratadata, WAH WAH
Ta taratadata taratadata, WAH WAH
Ta taratadata taratadata, WAH WAH
Ta taratadata taratadata, WAH WAH WAH
Ta taratadata taratadata, WAH WAH
Ta taratadata taratadata, WAH WAH
Ta taratadata taratadata, WAH WAH
Ta ra ta taratata ta ta ta rata
ta-taratata ta-taratata TA TA TA TA
ta-taratata ta-taratata TARA TATARA TA TA
ta-taratata ta-taratata TA TA TA TA
ta-taratata TARA TATARA TATARA TATARA RRRRR
tarataratratataratarataratratatararatratatara
tarataratratataratarataratratatararatratatara
Chorus: "Ta ta ta ta taaaa taratata ta taaaaa!
(taaa!)
Ta ta ta ta taaaa taratata ta taaaaa!
(taaa! TAAA! taaa!)"
Ta ta ta, ta ta, taratada, ta ta
Tara ta, tada, taratadadada
Ta ta ta, ta ta, taratada, ta ta
Ta ta ta da, taratadadada
taaaaaaaaaaaa
raaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
taaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
***
(totally not death by glamour riff here)
(same but more hardcore)
Ta taratadata taratadata taratadata taratadata
taratadata taratadata taratadata
taratadata taratadata taratadata
taratadata taratadata taratadata
taratadata taratadata taratadata
TA TA TA TADA TADA TA-TA-DA
TA TA TA TADA TADA TA-TA-DA
TADARA TADADARA TADA DARA TADARA TADADARA TA
TADARA TADADARA TADA DARA TADARA TADADARA
TA TA TA TA TA TA TA TARA TA
TA TA TA TA TA TA TA TARA TA (rrrr)
TA TA TA TA TA TA TA TARA TA (youuuuuuush)
YOUUUUUUUUSH
TA RA TA DA
TA RA DA DA
TA RA TA DA DA
TARADA TADA TA DA DA
TA RA TA DA
TA RA DA DA
TA RA TA DA DA
TARADA TADA TA DA DA
TARADA TADA TA DA DA
TARADA TADA TA DA DA
TARADA TADA TA DA DA
i sang this along to the song xD
holy shit this is perfect
Thanks
Doings gods work
that little death by glamour took me by surprise
This reminds me alot of VS. Giratina in Pokémon Platinum
do you ever want to listen to something so much until you're sick of it
This mf put a homestuck in my favorite pokemon character's battle theme
Pokemon Scarlet and Violet's final boss battle music is similar to this
Reminder that the man who made "Oppa Toby Style" is working for Nintendo and had his song performed in front of the Pope
WHERE. I WANNA SEE
stomehuck isnt real its not real IT CANT BE real its all in le head
@@RubyLing_megalovania preformed for the pope
This song would fit very well with a family guy chicken fight
TRUE
Pick one.
@@gamerule18 this one: th-cam.com/video/AiyJI5Kmcro/w-d-xo.html
2:50 Hey it's a Pokemon champion fight!
Pokémon Gen 10 :Penumbra Phantasm will be a Legendary Pokemon theme
what if its the terapagos theme
One these days hes gonna sneak megalovania into a pokemon game I swear.
Gen 11: Remedy becomes the gym leader theme
I feel like Penumbra Phantasm is reserved for Homestuck and Deltarune. Wouldn't be surprised by Megalovania.
Do not listen to this while running. You will hurt yourself. Speaking from experience.
I would go sonic mode lmao
@@subspace2913
That's how I hurt myself. Did that thing where you run so fast you can't move for an hour after.
lmao 4:43 is literally the motif in the beginning of CORE and Death By Glamour, that's a homestuck motif in Undertale
Also sounds like theme of really cool bird
It's not.
Well, kind of. It's Doctor but modified to sound like CORE, because that segment of the battle is an "Undertale Boss Fight" against LE. (Not playable but it looks like one)
This doesn't play during the undertale reference
@@BatailleRapTishort Maybe I'm just remembering wrong then. But it still has an Undertale reference lol.
Question of the day:
How did they get Crypt of the Necrodancer's Shopkeep to sing for them? How much does he charge? I MUST KNOW THESE THINGS!
How much chaos do you want
Toby fox: *all of it*
**gets to **1:09**** "woah, an epic song so far." **hears the next part** "soooo, english leitmotif, check. wait, wait. IS THAT THE TROLOLO GUY?!?"
2:44
Even in a webcomic about a Betty Crocker-Hating Boy, we can't avoid Gaster's theme
undertale fans when they hear literally any 1-2-3-2 music pattern
@@lunactiathemoth Can confirm this is true
@@lunactiathemoth I mean that's the point of Gaster's theme. It's so simple that you could hear it anywhere if you paid close attention, because he's supposed to be everywhere. Considering Collide came after Undertale, I wouldn't be surprised if he actually did sneak in just to mess with people.
1:23 sounds like Splatoon music and I'm loving it