An honest observation (and not an ad hominem) of Shamsi, and an explanation why I don't like watching his videos. Shamsi suffers from a grotesque inability to speak with tranquility and eloquence. He's hectically stringing words together, non-stop, and it detracts from the points he's trying to communicate. It comes across as disingenuous, as if a charlatan's trying to convince you to buy his Chinese snake oil. I'm NOT calling him fraudulent, but that's how many people subconsciously judge. He also focusses too much on bystanders, frantically looking around with eyebrows raised and eyes wide open, making eye contact; almost begging for approval or forcing support. I don't know why he does that, I think he's afraid of losing his audience. He needs to calm down, pay his direct interlocutor better attention, and respond to questions. He's constantly asking for direct quotes and scholarly references, knowing damn well that his interlocutor can't access source material or do a quick search, on the spot. Nor would you expect them to memorize volumes, that they can just produce, from memory, some scholarly quote pertaining to an incidental topic that's being discussed. It makes Shamsi sound scholarly, and it makes his opponent look less knowledgeable. I think it's kinda ridiculous, as it automatically implies that "no scholar ever said that", and that this is something Shamsi knows for certain. That might be the case, sometimes, but he does it on a regular basis, and you wouldn't actually have the kind of knowledge to make the claim; or rather, to imply that you know for sure, that "no scholar ever wrote about that", or "no scholar ever expressed that opinion". Whenever he does that, he's indirectly claiming to know for certain that the quote he's asking for cannot be produced, which implies that he has a detailed knowledge of every scholar's writings, views, statements, beliefs, definitions, etc., which is impossible. That, I think, is subtly manipulative. An easy way to 'score points'. It also implies that all valid opinions concerning all possible topics have already been written down, and that if you can't find something in the books, then it's false by default. This is nonsensical, as it would effectively mean that whenever scholars (in our past) addressed topics that arose in accordance with the changing times; their work would also be, by definition, erroneous, because the scholars who preceded them didn't write about it, since it hadn't become a relevant topic yet. I think that Shamsi sometimes hides behind this "scholars" argument, because it makes him look academic and meticulous, and in full agreement with (all) scholarly opinions, and it shuts down his interlocutor's case. Another thing he often does is, mention names of scholars, and a book they wrote, saying: "Such and such said this and that..", and then he mentions a book title, but leaves it at that. Then he paraphrases them, supposedly, but he'll just repeat his own words; strengthening his own words, by adding a name and a title to it. I don't hear him giving any actual verbatim quotes or references, besides naming a scholar and a book, which is precise enough to sound convincing to the audience, but too vague to actually convince a keen listener. If you're so incessant concerning scholars' statements, then at least YOU provide the actual quotes, and lead by example. It's possible, after all, that he himself misunderstands a statement, or that he interprets something with a specific perspective or bias in mind. But you can't check it, because while he's constantly demanding quotes and sources, he doesn't give you any. And nobody's going to pick up the book he mentioned in passing and read through it, just to see where he got his quote from. "Digressing" means "sidestepping", or "deviating", and he's using this term whenever he doesn't want to answer a question or respond to a point, which I think is really just an easy way for him to dismiss said points and inquiries. People notice that, and so it quickly becomes annoying whenever he claims Daniel's digressing. I've never liked listening to Shamsi, and that's because of how he carries himself in a discussion, not because I inherently dislike him or always disagree with him. My point is just that his demeanor isn't very pleasant, and that's problematic when you're a public speaker. Something he should work on, imo.
Without exaggerating I can honestly say this is the best comment I’ve seen, out of the all the years this channel has been around!. You hit the nail in the head with sniper precision, and your observations regarding his debate tactics was spot on 👌🏽 may Allah bless you!
Noe doubt shamsi have autism he can not understand that is not able to communicate in discussion where you ashould listen to others person arguments. He only repeats what he has memorised with out understanding the implications of what he says. That is big factor you can se repeats itself every time shamsi have dialogue. This madhakhila has lot of syndromes some in the gens other because of there's Hypocrite actions. Shamsi is not scholars we are not Christians that kan claims there prest every time they get question about there stands. In islam you have to explain the scholars prof backed by the quran and the sunnah (meaning text ) not claim scholars like birth certificate. The discussion is not so deep that you should cry scholars thqt have past that not cam not juge what is happening in real life. He is defending apostates never seen in the history of islam . I hope madhakhila got resurrected with ther apostates leaders in the day of judgement day and us with whom the call khawarij. That would be tru blessing Allahumma amiin
Tactics: being as pedantics as humanly possible, so the discussion would never progress in the 1st place = W for those guys & these kinds of ppl "So you are giving based opinions & critics - but are you Perfect & a Saint yet tho? Who are you? So you r wrong" 😎 -madkhali pov starterpack
Absolutely destroyed shamsi. Atleast piers wasn't a muslim, but being a Muslim and digressing this horribly shows how pathetic these bootlickers are . Great job brother Daniel and Sp files for this gem.❤️❤️❤️❤️
Shamsi this week embarrassed himself and lost all credibility amongst Muslims.. I feel sorry for him.. but he comes off arrogant and know it all.. everyone is tired of him.. no one wants to talk to him or be seen around him.. he says he is not a scholar but wants to discuss such matters in public
@@TeeTee-zm2re Prolly, since so called scholars there teach tem to obey their King even if it means for you to step over the muslims. To me that it's not a sect as they think they're, to me they're a cult, just watch this video and you'll understand, God forbid you meet them and have an argument from them, they'll make you takfir if you say anything against their ruler.
If this was an organized debate with a moderator, Daniel would have annihilated Shamsi . Shamsi thrives off this street arguments where he can interupt people and change topic at will .
Yup Notice when he starts losing, he addresses the crowd instead of Daniel. In an organized debate, he would get "murdered". And imagine if it was Bro Hajji, he would've ran.
@@Ahmed-li4bw Shamsi wouldn’t give a clear cut yes or no. He later replied saying yes and quoting about a peace treaty in the prophets time. Problem is… where is the peace treaty in Palestine? Not a Ramadan goes by without seeing dead Palestinians. The treaty would’ve been voided in the prophets time if this was happening.
@@Visible-jb2ewexactly. The Prophet PBUH would never allow a Kufar nation to oppress, kill and displace believers. The Quran states oppression is worse than slaughter and in that part of the world, who is more oppressed?
These Madkhalis will call you a khariji for criticism of a tyrannical ruler. However, say nothing about these tyrannical rulers who are blatantly dismantling and rebelling against the sharia.
Criticism is only valid in a few cases Akhi It can’t just be thrown out by whoever for some reason that isn’t understood. It must be with a maslaha Shar’iyyah But with that in mind you should be balanced in the idea about the rulers Not to have specific love for only one of them and disregard the rest , nor to think all of them are misguided الله أعلم
@@AbuAbdullahAlHanbali dude imam Ibn Taymiyah got detained more than like five times for openly criticising the rulers and protesting against them. Tf
@@animeguesser3099did you even watch the video? Shamsi has no problem criticizing certain rulers and not others. That is the hypocrisy. He criticized Qatar when the other gulf states were planning to attack Qatar. But when they made peace, this dog then apologized for criticizing Qatar. He is actually the worst kind of person
Shamsi is just arguing over semantics. You can call them madkhali or bootlicker or whatever. The discussion should be wether their beliefs are right or wrong .
I don't think he's doing it intentionally. You can't imagine how much it hurts them to be called Madkhalis. But I don't know why, I'd be honored to be called after my favorite sheikh.
@Habib-Rem They will have a new name for it. The wahabis did the same thing for it. They knew the atrocities associated with that cult and now call themselves "salafi". Sometimes you just gotta call a spade a spade.
its weird, why does he afraid being label as madkhali? according to daniel definition, that is exactly who he is, he refuse to criticise the rulers, maybe due to personal reason but the facts stays. maybe can ask brother daniel, whats the benefit of ummah by labeling other muslim brothers?
@@mdnoszyekov2967the benefit is to identify Muslims who are allowing falsehood in regards to corrupt rulers and to guide them. If guidance doesn’t work, then you expose them.
Shamsi's vocabulary after 10yrs: +1 "Digressing" Also, I dislike that Shamsi constantly seeks approval from his yes men in the crowd while Daniel is asking him a question, he simply cannot debate. He is not even facing Daniel, he's facing the crowd and speaking to them instead of facing Daniel and debating properly.
@@-------....___ actually king Hussein (of Jordan) used to have a salary from the CIA. Then when the head of it was changed, he cancelled the salary because he thought it's shameful to bribe a king like that. The funny part is that King Hussein didn't deny it in public, he justified it by saying it was just the tuition for college of his son Abdellah the current king. This king is a Hakim that should be obeyed according to malkhakis🥴
@@angosalvo5734 Ah, did not know that. The time when the Ottomans got removed is when this fitnah started. These madkhalis are doing anything in their power to ensure Caliphate and unity of the ummah does not happen. Being under a Caliphate ruled by Sharia is an OBLIGATION for every muslim. And has been said as such by people like Ibn Taymmiyah, Imam Malik, the other 3 Imams as well. Go to any Gulf country and try saying this. You will be forcibly disappeared.
The People who are saying Daniel lost are funny lol. Daniel came with integrity and answered all of Shamsi’s questions; where as, Shamsi would beat around the bush, waffling about something, then when he was fully backed into a corner and couldn’t answer, he would say ‘Daniel is digressing’. All in all, it’s easy to debate people with integrity as they’re willing to answer every question, people with no integrity can just play dirty tactics and make it seem like they’re not loosing. However, anyone with a competent brain can see through the dirty tactics being deployed by Shamsi
@@bobbyfizzle he didn’t choose and decide which rulers he can criticise, daniel kept mentioning certain scholars that have made takfir or criticised certain rulers Has the ruler of Saudi Arabia committed clear kufr? You all seem to hate him so much. He prays, and he’s Muslim الحمد لله He has tawhid, and worships Allah عز وجل alone. Learn your religion, read ahadith of Prophet ﷺ and stop listening to people who’ve been exposed for clearly lying multiple times. Can’t you clearly see daniel isn’t being sincere?
A couple of issues here with Shamsi. One, he thinks that the only people who can observe and label a group are scholars and never substantiates that. Second, he conflates group with sect and uses both terms interchangeably when they linguistically mean different things.
Shamsi: Tell me, which scholar has labeled us as a sect? Daniel: Shaikh Alturaifi. Shamsi: He is not a scholar. Daniel: Can you name a scholar who has labeled me as a Khariji? Shamsi: Shaikh Arafath. Daniel: Who is this Arafath? Shamsi: He holds a doctorate from Madina University. Daniel : Then what about the Al Turaifi
@@Ryan-lf6dsyou lack knowledge, like the rest of the people watching these SP-clowns. If you call certain group of people “ahlul bid’ah” then you make them into a group, because ahlul bid’ah are always muslims -> you create a group within islam. Go learn man you man watch ali needs dawah that says enough about you
The real fitnah is west invading muslim lands every year and puting their army around the muslim world and madakhilah defending the rulers who are letting that happen and stopping the muslims in borders to enter the palestine helping their brothers
And even catching them and throwing them in jail if they even "talked" about fighting the kuffar Without mentioning changing the rules of islam by some man made laws which is kufr and ruling with it and judging with it among the people...And when a schollar talks about that and invite people to learn their religion they call them khawarij What fitnah are you talking about !
Brother learnt one new word and made it his favourite tasbeeh. May Allah keep us safe from arrogance, pride and from hypocrisy manifesting in our hearts.
ينصر نفسه لا الحق... لما كان علي كرم الله وجهه فس احذى الغزوات يحارب و لما تقدم على الكافرين و اوشك ليقضي على يهودي بصق ذلك اليهودي في وجهه كرم الله وجهه فتركه علي و ارجع السيف الى غمده فلما ساله لما فعل ذلك اخبره علي بانه لو قتله في تلك اللحظه لانتصر لنفسه لا لله..
So Hamas is the elected ruler of Palestine and According to madkhali they are not allowed to criticise the rulers so does that means shamsi is khariji loooool
Na'amsi represents the lowest IQ of wanaabee plastic gangsters who find God overnight & can conveniently jump into spubs cult as it directly matches their filthy characteristics from imitating of the kuffaar gangster culture, many like na'amsi spubs cult can't make disallegiance from imitation of the kuffaar, their characteristics & their gangster mentality that's exactly who joins spubs & they all use religion to project their hostility that they would have for a rival gang before cult, now they express that hostility through another group of Muslims & put labels upon on them, they love repeatedly using the buzzword phrases of the cult that delude them into thinking they're knowledgeable, saying a few arabic terms & phrases doesn't make one competent to speak on behalf of Allaah's religion with no knowledge, they're self appointed clowns who are naturally aggressive & love controversy & to be centre of attention like all narcissists, they can't get relevance any other way, they're spubs cult groupies like all fangirls of celebrities, the followers venerate their cult leaders like sufis do their saints...💯
Shamsi was so rude and couldn't answer simple questions. I think he should stick to christians and jews, he seems to behave with them. Ofcourse, any scholar that differs with his scholars, is not a scholar LOL
Ofcourse, any scholar that differs with his scholars, is not a scholar LOL THIS !!! ONLY THEY GET TO PICK SCHOLAR!! AND COUDLN'T EVEN TALK ABOUT THE ALBANI ISSUE DH BROUGHT UP.
Shamsi will get there slowly, seems like Bro Hijab telling him to get english lessons is starting to pay off. He has learnt a new word albeit using it in the wrong context! What I found hilarious was when Shamsi kept calling Daniel Hack-a-Jew 😂😂 18:52
Dang Shamsi must’ve had many beefs with people, at the beginning of the video someone yelling at him “you called me khariji” then at the end someone yelling at him “why you called me rafidhi” 😅
This is because Shamsi is the gatekeeper of who is Salafi, who is khariji, who is innovator, who is rafidi. He has that knowledge somehow. Maybe shaytaan (abu khadeeja) whispering in his ear.
I'm not a fan of either I don't even understand what they're arguing about as much as I love this religion sometimes I'd rather stick to the basics and leave the rest for the scholars to figure out
The Murji’ah aren’t people who just get close to rulers Akhi Many imams were close to rulers But it is best to avoid such things out of Humbleness and spend our time in worship
@@AbuAbdullahAlHanbali The one who spend his time in worship while his brothers getting persecuted has no imaan. The lowest of imaan is at least to hate the evil. The worst one is the one who supports the evil rulers and who gets angry on behalf of them.
Learn your deen. Please this is embarassing. The “scholars” he mentioned have been refuted by the major scholars which even laymen like ali dawah and hijab listen to???
@@ryojs4286Shamsi learned a new english word recently which is digress , he keep saying it everytime Daniel asking him a question that he scared to answer. Daniel asked him multiple times " Can you criticize gulf rulers ? " he runs from the question by screaming and talking gibberish and semantics . It is ok for shamsi to make takfir on any ruler or government that claims to be muslim like Hamas let alone criticizing except saudi rulers even if they spread shirk , build pagan temples , allow all filthy satanic concerts of blasphemy against Allah and I would add to that if the saudi ruler tries to rape the mother of Shamsi he will obey the ruler because the rule is to hear and obey except if there's clear kufr and raping is just a Sin. The irony is when shamsi quoted hadith about the alligence ( بيعة ) to an Imam or otherwise you will die on jahileyiah , Daniel asked him " who do you have alligence ( بيعة ) for ? " , he dodged the question again. FYI If Saudi is an Islamic state like shamsi believe then it is haram Islamically to live between kufar in a kafir state like England over the khilafah of MBS in saudi . But shamsi is a coward boy he don't have the audacity to discuss this
@@ryojs4286 he is a savage, and may Allah SWT show him his place. He calls everyone who differs with him khariji, innovator, deviant. He is a dog without honor.
So when he u watch him talk of Quran and sunnah that's comedy but when u see daniel debate with useless islam haters who are only here to spread doubt among the ummah that's some how productive
@ahmadqazi2648 no this brother said when he watches shamsi its comedy I said so when he talks of quran and hadith is that comedy cause that's what he teaches isn't that a fair question Secondly I condemn any muslim who over exaggerates on mbs or any other ruler that is against the sunnah I outright condemn it
@@mohammadqasim1974 Because all the time, Shamsi labels Muslims as this or that. That's literally his thing. It's hard to take a "dawah bro" seriously after he makes a video claiming there is Shirk EVERYWHERE in Palestine, all while Palestine is going through a genocide.
In this conversation, there is one brother who consistently references the Qur'an and Sunnah, while another brother relies on the opinions of the audience, appeals to emotion, and does not provide any reference from the Qur'an and Sunnah. It is evident and clear which brother it is who has the truth with him.
I can never trust or take shamsi seriously after he said that at the time of Hazrat Hussain R.A and Yazeed. He stands with Yazid and fight against Hazrat Hussain R.A.
@@haideraliibnakhlaq8823I know that they have problems in Aqeedah. But it's best avoid to make such bold claims. Because that's seems a generalization statement. Even among those who claim to be Ahlus Sunnah there are some Nawasib . Let's pray to Allah Azzawajal that He destroy sectarianism and make us Muslims and one Ummah.
Shams has really something not right with his heart. At the end its jealousy & pettiness hatred. The world is already crazy Shamsi & people like him must take a long good look form within They so busy looking at other's & not looking within. May Allah guide all of us & protect us from the tricks of shaytan to destroy the love. That's why the ummah is in this unfortunate situation. May Allah help us all Ameen
Is this the best argument Shamsi can bring ? "you are not a scholar" ? The prophet peace be upon him taught us how to identify a Munafiq. He did not say you have to be a scholar. Shamsi creating Bid'ah 24/7
So true wallahi especially when it comes to the current affairs in Palestine. Like why are you trying to say it's OK to have peace relations with isreal? Why now ? How insensitive can you be seriously some people just don't know when to shut up
Have you seen it fully? Oyallahi don't mislead ! This jahel Daniel didn't even quote single ayah from Quran , neither from Hadith It's a must to learn Islam from scholars, not from the TH-cam videos of turaifi
I can't believe how he gets crazy and turns around when he talks to a Muslim you will not see them speak about israel or any Deen disbelievers ruller as they did when american occupation came to iraq and what they did now can you ask them about what Al-Hussein, may allah be pleased with him, and Abdullah bin Al-Zubayr. Was wrong or right? If he said wrong, then he failed. How could he be wrong when the Prophet, pace be open him testified to him? And if they said correct, then they also failed. So why you criticize me, they are only cursing and backbiting Muslims.
Shamsis argument at the start of the video was so stupid. The label that we give these government agents doesnt matter. Half of this debate was Shamsi refusing to answer questions and arguing over semantics.
@@boelichoeli2121 Leave the scholars and follow Sahabah. Will be better for you. Sahabah rebelled and criticized. Any scholar who says you can't, is not from the Salaf.
He just wanted to establish what is a madkhali are they mubtadi so on so forth daniel was waffling also can we continue the discussion of criticizing the ruler you know khariji instigators vs ahlus sunnah on the ruler issue if we can't have some things cleared
This is the first time I listened to Shamsi because Daniel was at Speakers corner and it intrigued me as I watch his content regularly. How do you guys deal with having to listen to Shamsi on a regular basis? This short clip almost gave me a headache subhanAllah. How does Hijab deal with it? 🤦🏻♂️ #Digressing
These Neo salafis raise their voice when they debate and don’t let you speak. I have seen them using these tactics whenever they have a debate or a simple discussion.
Shamsi's voice is so unbearable above all he is shouting all the discussion long and interrupting Daniel without making any substantial arguments....Daniel speaks more confidently and is undoubtedly more interesting and knowledgeable.
I don't understand why someone follows an ignorant like shamsi to guide him 😕 😐 🙄, shamsi has a certain method in his conversations and he tries to be seen as the winner but he runs from the principal points of the speech
Madkhalis will never respond when you ask if Shaikh Albani criticised the Rulers? If he says Shaikh Albani did wrong and failed to understand this issue is hitting axe on his own legs. Baecause all they do in defence of Shaikh Rabee Al Madkhali is by referring how Shaikh Albani praised him.
Shamsi sahme on you you should let who are above you of knowlege speak to educate your attitude and knowlege you should quit madakhlia as soon as possible shame on you😂😂
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An honest observation (and not an ad hominem) of Shamsi, and an explanation why I don't like watching his videos.
Shamsi suffers from a grotesque inability to speak with tranquility and eloquence. He's hectically stringing words together, non-stop, and it detracts from the points he's trying to communicate. It comes across as disingenuous, as if a charlatan's trying to convince you to buy his Chinese snake oil. I'm NOT calling him fraudulent, but that's how many people subconsciously judge. He also focusses too much on bystanders, frantically looking around with eyebrows raised and eyes wide open, making eye contact; almost begging for approval or forcing support. I don't know why he does that, I think he's afraid of losing his audience. He needs to calm down, pay his direct interlocutor better attention, and respond to questions.
He's constantly asking for direct quotes and scholarly references, knowing damn well that his interlocutor can't access source material or do a quick search, on the spot. Nor would you expect them to memorize volumes, that they can just produce, from memory, some scholarly quote pertaining to an incidental topic that's being discussed. It makes Shamsi sound scholarly, and it makes his opponent look less knowledgeable. I think it's kinda ridiculous, as it automatically implies that "no scholar ever said that", and that this is something Shamsi knows for certain. That might be the case, sometimes, but he does it on a regular basis, and you wouldn't actually have the kind of knowledge to make the claim; or rather, to imply that you know for sure, that "no scholar ever wrote about that", or "no scholar ever expressed that opinion". Whenever he does that, he's indirectly claiming to know for certain that the quote he's asking for cannot be produced, which implies that he has a detailed knowledge of every scholar's writings, views, statements, beliefs, definitions, etc., which is impossible. That, I think, is subtly manipulative. An easy way to 'score points'.
It also implies that all valid opinions concerning all possible topics have already been written down, and that if you can't find something in the books, then it's false by default. This is nonsensical, as it would effectively mean that whenever scholars (in our past) addressed topics that arose in accordance with the changing times; their work would also be, by definition, erroneous, because the scholars who preceded them didn't write about it, since it hadn't become a relevant topic yet. I think that Shamsi sometimes hides behind this "scholars" argument, because it makes him look academic and meticulous, and in full agreement with (all) scholarly opinions, and it shuts down his interlocutor's case.
Another thing he often does is, mention names of scholars, and a book they wrote, saying: "Such and such said this and that..", and then he mentions a book title, but leaves it at that. Then he paraphrases them, supposedly, but he'll just repeat his own words; strengthening his own words, by adding a name and a title to it. I don't hear him giving any actual verbatim quotes or references, besides naming a scholar and a book, which is precise enough to sound convincing to the audience, but too vague to actually convince a keen listener. If you're so incessant concerning scholars' statements, then at least YOU provide the actual quotes, and lead by example. It's possible, after all, that he himself misunderstands a statement, or that he interprets something with a specific perspective or bias in mind. But you can't check it, because while he's constantly demanding quotes and sources, he doesn't give you any. And nobody's going to pick up the book he mentioned in passing and read through it, just to see where he got his quote from.
"Digressing" means "sidestepping", or "deviating", and he's using this term whenever he doesn't want to answer a question or respond to a point, which I think is really just an easy way for him to dismiss said points and inquiries. People notice that, and so it quickly becomes annoying whenever he claims Daniel's digressing. I've never liked listening to Shamsi, and that's because of how he carries himself in a discussion, not because I inherently dislike him or always disagree with him. My point is just that his demeanor isn't very pleasant, and that's problematic when you're a public speaker. Something he should work on, imo.
Without exaggerating I can honestly say this is the best comment I’ve seen, out of the all the years this channel has been around!. You hit the nail in the head with sniper precision, and your observations regarding his debate tactics was spot on 👌🏽 may Allah bless you!
Noe doubt shamsi have autism he can not understand that is not able to communicate in discussion where you ashould listen to others person arguments. He only repeats what he has memorised with out understanding the implications of what he says.
That is big factor you can se repeats itself every time shamsi have dialogue.
This madhakhila has lot of syndromes some in the gens other because of there's Hypocrite actions.
Shamsi is not scholars we are not Christians that kan claims there prest every time they get question about there stands.
In islam you have to explain the scholars prof backed by the quran and the sunnah (meaning text ) not claim scholars like birth certificate.
The discussion is not so deep that you should cry scholars thqt have past that not cam not juge what is happening in real life. He is defending apostates never seen in the history of islam .
I hope madhakhila got resurrected with ther apostates leaders in the day of judgement day and us with whom the call khawarij. That would be tru blessing Allahumma amiin
Wallahi i love your comment, allahuma barik akhi! Watch the video of Daniel Haqiqatjou about madkhalis. He made a nice video about them.
I grade this dissertation as a distinction
@@sp-files82 You're too kind, really. Jazakallahu khairan.
Trying to get Shamsi to say if you can criticise the rulers is hard as getting piers morgan to say he condemns israel.
Maybe he's point is that his opinion doesn't mean anything but u have to go back to the scholars
👏👍 stop on
Perfectly put. That’s so true 💯
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@@animeguesser3099maybe the point is go back to the Sahabah instead of ‘scholars’
Shamsi thinks DH only talks online, the guy has done more actual formal debates than he has had hot dinners.
And yet he couldn’t quote one single evidence, and resorted to ashari scholars LOL. His desi viewers are in shambles
@@MuslimDailyVids naaaam
@@MuslimDailyVidsWhat's wrong with Ashari scholars?
@@MuslimDailyVidsand shamsi couldn't answer a simple question... And I prefer shamsi but he failed here.
@@AshrafAnamit goes against them
mashaallah jzakm alllah khira my brother Daniel
Tactics: being as pedantics as humanly possible, so the discussion would never progress in the 1st place = W for those guys & these kinds of ppl
"So you are giving based opinions & critics - but are you Perfect & a Saint yet tho? Who are you? So you r wrong" 😎
-madkhali pov starterpack
Absolutely destroyed shamsi. Atleast piers wasn't a muslim, but being a Muslim and digressing this horribly shows how pathetic these bootlickers are . Great job brother Daniel and Sp files for this gem.❤️❤️❤️❤️
Shamsi this week embarrassed himself and lost all credibility amongst Muslims.. I feel sorry for him.. but he comes off arrogant and know it all.. everyone is tired of him.. no one wants to talk to him or be seen around him.. he says he is not a scholar but wants to discuss such matters in public
Did he learn digressing last week?
'Why you call me rafidi? Why you call me spy? You son of a MUTAH!!!!' 😂😂😂😂
bro shamsi saying don't digress but then says let me speak. lol
They’re agents and getting paid by the government; you’re doing it for free! 😂 Daniel is hilarious!
😂😂😂😂
He is the best
No proof
@@abdulrahmanalzahrani2072 actually Daniel proved it in his video Randkhalis
@@muslim_kun where exactly?
Shamsi running around the bush. Not answering 1 question from Daniel.
We all need to digress the madkhalis
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I never would imagine in my life that i would see brother Daniel at speakers corner 😄
It's not the first time
now imagine S. Lipham..... I would axtually faint
lol@@tahiribnmohammad5410
@@tahiribnmohammad5410what is he going to do there? He will get destroyed 😢
@@oussama40612 ohhh he's been there before? When? Are there videos?
well done brother Daniel.
You haven't even watched it yet 😂
Madhkhalis losing their minds
You could tell shamsi was nervous. Kept repeating one word.
You could tell Daniel desi ashari followers in shambles after he fled speakers corner, not one Islamic citation in his words, what a role model LOL
@@MuslimDailyVidskeep "Digressing" like Shamsi
@@ahmadqazi2648 lmaoooo true
@@MuslimDailyVids citation for what? He kept asking if you think rulers are infallible. Why is citation needed for this
Daniel at the park! A sight to see!
A Saudi Sheikh told me once that this madkhali movement is a sicknes without cure. May Allah protect us.
@@Ishaq-hm2iyMay Allah SWT bless the real followers of Nabi Muhammad SAW, not Muhammad Al Najdi
I'm new to this madkhali business. Are they the majority in Saudi Arabia?
@@TeeTee-zm2re Prolly, since so called scholars there teach tem to obey their King even if it means for you to step over the muslims. To me that it's not a sect as they think they're, to me they're a cult, just watch this video and you'll understand, God forbid you meet them and have an argument from them, they'll make you takfir if you say anything against their ruler.
@@TeeTee-zm2re majority of them are south asian diaspora in the west lol They behave more like Arabs than the Arabs do.
@@EruRoraitoX I've always found Saudi Arabia's behaviour anti muslim.
Daniel - "Is it ok to criticise a ruler"
Shamsi - "Stop Digressing" × 1000
Exactly
كلمة حق عند سلطان جائر
After many years of dawah, his English has improved by the implementation of one new word: Digressing
LOL
I noticed that too. I think he's particularly proud of that new word. 🙄
hantun use that words alot too
@@drive-2786😂😂
🤣🤣🤣🤣
If this was an organized debate with a moderator, Daniel would have annihilated Shamsi . Shamsi thrives off this street arguments where he can interupt people and change topic at will .
Yup
Notice when he starts losing, he addresses the crowd instead of Daniel.
In an organized debate, he would get "murdered".
And imagine if it was Bro Hajji, he would've ran.
@@racerx3667 watch the second part and the third part of this debate daniel also used this tactic crowd controlling
@@Ahmed-li4bw Shamsi wouldn’t give a clear cut yes or no. He later replied saying yes and quoting about a peace treaty in the prophets time. Problem is… where is the peace treaty in Palestine? Not a Ramadan goes by without seeing dead Palestinians. The treaty would’ve been voided in the prophets time if this was happening.
@@Visible-jb2ewexactly. The Prophet PBUH would never allow a Kufar nation to oppress, kill and displace believers. The Quran states oppression is worse than slaughter and in that part of the world, who is more oppressed?
So you all admit shamsi is living rent free in your heads and made your boy seem like a child who couldn’t cite one thing he said 😂
These Madkhalis will call you a khariji for criticism of a tyrannical ruler. However, say nothing about these tyrannical rulers who are blatantly dismantling and rebelling against the sharia.
Criticism is only valid in a few cases Akhi
It can’t just be thrown out by whoever for some reason that isn’t understood. It must be with a maslaha Shar’iyyah
But with that in mind you should be balanced in the idea about the rulers
Not to have specific love for only one of them and disregard the rest , nor to think all of them are misguided
الله أعلم
@@AbuAbdullahAlHanbaliDaniel didn't say that all of them are misguided but you can clearly see that Saudi and UAE rulers are working for Zionists.
@@AbuAbdullahAlHanbali dude imam Ibn Taymiyah got detained more than like five times for openly criticising the rulers and protesting against them. Tf
yes there are cases like this@@Batmaninfiniteprep97
@AbuAbdullahAlHanbali whoever makes halal haram and haram halal is showing his true colors.
I cant take shamsi seriously. His hypocrisy is out of this world
Show me one
what to expect from madkhalizz
Come on, go on show me
@@animeguesser3099 this whole video is his hypocrisy.u r just too blind and idiot enough to see that!
@@animeguesser3099did you even watch the video? Shamsi has no problem criticizing certain rulers and not others. That is the hypocrisy. He criticized Qatar when the other gulf states were planning to attack Qatar. But when they made peace, this dog then apologized for criticizing Qatar. He is actually the worst kind of person
Shamsi is just arguing over semantics. You can call them madkhali or bootlicker or whatever. The discussion should be wether their beliefs are right or wrong .
true
I don't think he's doing it intentionally. You can't imagine how much it hurts them to be called Madkhalis.
But I don't know why, I'd be honored to be called after my favorite sheikh.
@Habib-Rem They will have a new name for it. The wahabis did the same thing for it. They knew the atrocities associated with that cult and now call themselves "salafi". Sometimes you just gotta call a spade a spade.
its weird, why does he afraid being label as madkhali? according to daniel definition, that is exactly who he is, he refuse to criticise the rulers, maybe due to personal reason but the facts stays. maybe can ask brother daniel, whats the benefit of ummah by labeling other muslim brothers?
@@mdnoszyekov2967the benefit is to identify Muslims who are allowing falsehood in regards to corrupt rulers and to guide them. If guidance doesn’t work, then you expose them.
Shamsi's vocabulary after 10yrs:
+1 "Digressing"
Also, I dislike that Shamsi constantly seeks approval from his yes men in the crowd while Daniel is asking him a question, he simply cannot debate. He is not even facing Daniel, he's facing the crowd and speaking to them instead of facing Daniel and debating properly.
Notice he does that when he is not confident.
@@racerx3667and not sincere, and hypocrisy
HAHAHAHAH daniel was the onz asking the crowd and getting them involved you liars. Does it burn?😂
omg it burns, on no it burns, help please bootlicker, help me@@boelichoeli2121
watch the third part of the debate daniel also used crowd controlling
Shamsi is highly sectarian.
Blind allegiance = working for free. These madhkhalis are short of intelligence. 😂
WALLAHI U RIGHT
most of them are agents working for a salary.
@@angosalvo5734 mate, their 'leaders' from the 1920s took salaries from the British.....I wonder why :)
@@-------....___ actually king Hussein (of Jordan) used to have a salary from the CIA. Then when the head of it was changed, he cancelled the salary because he thought it's shameful to bribe a king like that. The funny part is that King Hussein didn't deny it in public, he justified it by saying it was just the tuition for college of his son Abdellah the current king.
This king is a Hakim that should be obeyed according to malkhakis🥴
@@angosalvo5734 Ah, did not know that.
The time when the Ottomans got removed is when this fitnah started.
These madkhalis are doing anything in their power to ensure Caliphate and unity of the ummah does not happen.
Being under a Caliphate ruled by Sharia is an OBLIGATION for every muslim. And has been said as such by people like Ibn Taymmiyah, Imam Malik, the other 3 Imams as well. Go to any Gulf country and try saying this. You will be forcibly disappeared.
The People who are saying Daniel lost are funny lol. Daniel came with integrity and answered all of Shamsi’s questions; where as, Shamsi would beat around the bush, waffling about something, then when he was fully backed into a corner and couldn’t answer, he would say ‘Daniel is digressing’. All in all, it’s easy to debate people with integrity as they’re willing to answer every question, people with no integrity can just play dirty tactics and make it seem like they’re not loosing. However, anyone with a competent brain can see through the dirty tactics being deployed by Shamsi
Shamsi is referring to the sunnah. This Daniel clown is just waffling his own opinions
What debate where you watching? Fear Allah عز وجل and learn your religion.
What Daniel is promoting isn’t correct.
Nicely said.
@@abdulwadood.8which one were you watching brother? He's choosing and deciding which rulers to criticise, fact is he doesn't have that authority
@@bobbyfizzle he didn’t choose and decide which rulers he can criticise, daniel kept mentioning certain scholars that have made takfir or criticised certain rulers
Has the ruler of Saudi Arabia committed clear kufr? You all seem to hate him so much.
He prays, and he’s Muslim الحمد لله
He has tawhid, and worships Allah عز وجل alone.
Learn your religion, read ahadith of Prophet ﷺ and stop listening to people who’ve been exposed for clearly lying multiple times.
Can’t you clearly see daniel isn’t being sincere?
A couple of issues here with Shamsi. One, he thinks that the only people who can observe and label a group are scholars and never substantiates that. Second, he conflates group with sect and uses both terms interchangeably when they linguistically mean different things.
nicely done
Shamsi: Tell me, which scholar has labeled us as a sect?
Daniel: Shaikh Alturaifi.
Shamsi: He is not a scholar.
Daniel: Can you name a scholar who has labeled me as a Khariji?
Shamsi: Shaikh Arafath.
Daniel: Who is this Arafath?
Shamsi: He holds a doctorate from Madina University.
Daniel : Then what about the Al Turaifi
12:17 Daniel struggled to show where Al Turaifi called them a sect and from Ahlul Bid'ah. The argument was about that. Stop trying to mislead..
@@1415Jdaniel didn't call em a sect, lil bro.
you talk in tongues like yo daddy scamsi?
@@Ryan-lf6dsyou lack knowledge, like the rest of the people watching these SP-clowns. If you call certain group of people “ahlul bid’ah” then you make them into a group, because ahlul bid’ah are always muslims -> you create a group within islam. Go learn man you man watch ali needs dawah that says enough about you
@@Ryan-lf6ds Stop snorting the coke before coming to the comment section.
@@Ryan-lf6dsdont say that bro
No insults
Disagree with Muslim Manners and adab
Daniel is a jewel to the ummah.
I don’t see it that way. He’s causing fitnah
@@ask7561 fitnah by showing the reality of these rulers and the madakhilah ?
@@ask7561 fitnah by showing the reality of these rulers and the madakhilah ?
The real fitnah is west invading muslim lands every year and puting their army around the muslim world and madakhilah defending the rulers who are letting that happen and stopping the muslims in borders to enter the palestine helping their brothers
And even catching them and throwing them in jail if they even "talked" about fighting the kuffar
Without mentioning changing the rules of islam by some man made laws which is kufr and ruling with it and judging with it among the people...And when a schollar talks about that and invite people to learn their religion they call them khawarij
What fitnah are you talking about !
Brother learnt one new word and made it his favourite tasbeeh.
May Allah keep us safe from arrogance, pride and from hypocrisy manifesting in our hearts.
This comment made me chuckle 🤣🤣🤣
This is what happen when people make their living on religion.
Shamsi you sounded like a nervous wreck. As soon as someone corners you all hell breaks loose.
Hahahaaaa I couldn’t have put it better, exactly what I was thinking. He looks so nervous and desperate
As soon as he's cornered, he turns towards the crowd and speaks to them instead of Daniel. He couldn't even face him lol
Then he start fight
exactly@@naimahmed3720
Its sad, because he is good in dahwah, but you saw his insecurities by wanting to get support from the peers around him.
Shamsi can’t speak English or Arabic but I digress.
You can clearly see that Shamsi is more concerned about "winning" the debate than engaging in a constructive discussion to find truth.
The unfortunate case with the majority of our pseudo salafi brothers. May Allah guide us and unite us upon the truth. Ameen.
shamsi quotes Quran and sunnah, Daniel never does
@@Haroon-m9r shamsi quotes Quran and sunnah to defend today's rulers and in a same breath used quran and sunnah to critisize gaza rulers. Irony
@@Haroon-m9r What did he quote exactly from the Quran?
ينصر نفسه لا الحق... لما كان علي كرم الله وجهه فس احذى الغزوات يحارب و لما تقدم على الكافرين و اوشك ليقضي على يهودي بصق ذلك اليهودي في وجهه كرم الله وجهه فتركه علي و ارجع السيف الى غمده فلما ساله لما فعل ذلك اخبره علي بانه لو قتله في تلك اللحظه لانتصر لنفسه لا لله..
So Hamas is the elected ruler of Palestine and According to madkhali they are not allowed to criticise the rulers so does that means shamsi is khariji loooool
According to him and his cult, Talha RA Zubair RA Aisha RA Husayn RA were all khariji.
Na'amsi represents the lowest IQ of wanaabee plastic gangsters who find God overnight & can conveniently jump into spubs cult as it directly matches their filthy characteristics from imitating of the kuffaar gangster culture, many like na'amsi spubs cult can't make disallegiance from imitation of the kuffaar, their characteristics & their gangster mentality that's exactly who joins spubs & they all use religion to project their hostility that they would have for a rival gang before cult, now they express that hostility through another group of Muslims & put labels upon on them, they love repeatedly using the buzzword phrases of the cult that delude them into thinking they're knowledgeable, saying a few arabic terms & phrases doesn't make one competent to speak on behalf of Allaah's religion with no knowledge, they're self appointed clowns who are naturally aggressive & love controversy & to be centre of attention like all narcissists, they can't get relevance any other way, they're spubs cult groupies like all fangirls of celebrities, the followers venerate their cult leaders like sufis do their saints...💯
😆😆
@@-------....___they’re sick humans. I can’t believe it
@@-------....___ what the hell is that , only a Kafir can call hz Aisha( R.H.) and companions of prophet as Khariji .
Daniel should come and visit speakers corner once in a while
Shamsi speak for 90% of the debate
Also Shamsi: Your not letting me speak lol
Shamsi was so rude and couldn't answer simple questions. I think he should stick to christians and jews, he seems to behave with them.
Ofcourse, any scholar that differs with his scholars, is not a scholar LOL
Ofcourse, any scholar that differs with his scholars, is not a scholar LOL
THIS !!! ONLY THEY GET TO PICK SCHOLAR!! AND COUDLN'T EVEN TALK ABOUT THE ALBANI ISSUE DH BROUGHT UP.
Shamsi , can we criticize rulers ? 😂
he answered this question watch the third part of the debate
@@Ahmed-li4bw no he did not answer it. And if he said no we cannot, then he is a hypocrite as he does it himself on selective rulers.
@@-------....___ did you watch the third part of the debate ???
@@Ahmed-li4bw No he did not answer it.
He kept dodging the question because he himself has done it on other leaders.
@@Ahmed-li4bwtimestamp please.
Shamsi will get there slowly, seems like Bro Hijab telling him to get english lessons is starting to pay off. He has learnt a new word albeit using it in the wrong context!
What I found hilarious was when Shamsi kept calling Daniel Hack-a-Jew 😂😂
18:52
😂😂😂hilarious.I have to say shamsi looks very nervous and desperate
I lost some brain cells watching this. Shamsi has trouble understanding basic argumentation.
Shamsi learned a new word *'digressing'...* lol 😂😂😂
Digressing = leaving the main subject temporarily in speech or writing
Dang Shamsi must’ve had many beefs with people, at the beginning of the video someone yelling at him “you called me khariji” then at the end someone yelling at him “why you called me rafidhi” 😅
hahahaha
This is because Shamsi is the gatekeeper of who is Salafi, who is khariji, who is innovator, who is rafidi. He has that knowledge somehow. Maybe shaytaan (abu khadeeja) whispering in his ear.
lol@@-------....___
I'm not a fan of either I don't even understand what they're arguing about as much as I love this religion sometimes I'd rather stick to the basics and leave the rest for the scholars to figure out
Daniel is so patient MashaAllah, how can he deal with this kid
Shamsi looks distressed, lol i still wana know why he called Daniel a khariji if his not a scholar
Shamsi knows what everyone is. He is getting this info from his cult. He decides who is Salafi, who is khariji
If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck it’s probably a wahabi madkali 😂
It so painful to listen to Shamsi. 😖
Shamsi is a real true example of everything that is wrong with Arab men of today 😂
nope, majority arab. Those are minorities.@BOM_NLD
@@Abdul-te6gw❤
What does that mean!?
@user-gp5ce4ns4jnot racist, as an arab, what are you on about?
Wallah im Arabic and free from this 😂, bro he can't read Arabic fluently
Shamsi: Let me speak. Let me finish.
After 5 minutes Shamsi talking/shouting non-stop.
Shamsi: Let me speak. He is not letting me speak.
From an Egyptian and an expert in middle east politics.
Daniel is right brother Shamsi is wrong
They are Murij'a in their methodology in how they deal with the rulers.
The Murji’ah aren’t people who just get close to rulers Akhi
Many imams were close to rulers
But it is best to avoid such things out of Humbleness and spend our time in worship
@@AbuAbdullahAlHanbali The one who spend his time in worship while his brothers getting persecuted has no imaan. The lowest of imaan is at least to hate the evil. The worst one is the one who supports the evil rulers and who gets angry on behalf of them.
@@BinuJasim this is very subjective
@@AbuAbdullahAlHanbalihow is that subjective???
@@UnapologeticIslam for some the rulers are Muslims and some dont consider them to be
"Agent shamsi"
Name 1 scholar name 1 scholar... when you do he denounce and downplay them.
He thinks his scholars are the only scholars in the world.
Learn your deen. Please this is embarassing. The “scholars” he mentioned have been refuted by the major scholars which even laymen like ali dawah and hijab listen to???
Daniel is very polite and civilized , he shouldn't deal with stupid savages like shamsi
Watch your words brother
@@Stefanovic43he is not my favorite, but I will never call him that
Do. Not. Call. Him a savage.
We are Muslims. Utilize proper Adab and disagreement without being like the kaffir
@@ryojs4286Shamsi learned a new english word recently which is digress , he keep saying it everytime Daniel asking him a question that he scared to answer. Daniel asked him multiple times " Can you criticize gulf rulers ? " he runs from the question by screaming and talking gibberish and semantics . It is ok for shamsi to make takfir on any ruler or government that claims to be muslim like Hamas let alone criticizing except saudi rulers even if they spread shirk , build pagan temples , allow all filthy satanic concerts of blasphemy against Allah and I would add to that if the saudi ruler tries to rape the mother of Shamsi he will obey the ruler because the rule is to hear and obey except if there's clear kufr and raping is just a Sin. The irony is when shamsi quoted hadith about the alligence ( بيعة ) to an Imam or otherwise you will die on jahileyiah , Daniel asked him " who do you have alligence ( بيعة ) for ? " , he dodged the question again. FYI If Saudi is an Islamic state like shamsi believe then it is haram Islamically to live between kufar in a kafir state like England over the khilafah of MBS in saudi . But shamsi is a coward boy he don't have the audacity to discuss this
@@ryojs4286 he is a savage, and may Allah SWT show him his place. He calls everyone who differs with him khariji, innovator, deviant.
He is a dog without honor.
Whenever I feel like watching comedy, I watch Shamsi😊😂
Lmaoo
So when he u watch him talk of Quran and sunnah that's comedy but when u see daniel debate with useless islam haters who are only here to spread doubt among the ummah that's some how productive
@@mohammadqasim1974You would rather put the Quran and Hadith in the line of fire to defend the bootlicking of the regimes???
@ahmadqazi2648 no this brother said when he watches shamsi its comedy I said so when he talks of quran and hadith is that comedy cause that's what he teaches isn't that a fair question Secondly I condemn any muslim who over exaggerates on mbs or any other ruler that is against the sunnah I outright condemn it
@@mohammadqasim1974 Because all the time, Shamsi labels Muslims as this or that. That's literally his thing. It's hard to take a "dawah bro" seriously after he makes a video claiming there is Shirk EVERYWHERE in Palestine, all while Palestine is going through a genocide.
17:11 “you’re doing the work for free” was incredibly funny
Shamsi thinks he had a gotcha moment while focusing on terminoglogies, avoiding the main point.
In this conversation, there is one brother who consistently references the Qur'an and Sunnah, while another brother relies on the opinions of the audience, appeals to emotion, and does not provide any reference from the Qur'an and Sunnah. It is evident and clear which brother it is who has the truth with him.
I didn't know that debating Ahlu-Albida'a has become halal 😅
Lmao, these guys bro i mean they're hypocrites even to their own standers
Daniel struggling to speak? That's an oxymoron!!! Shamsi is a barking 🐕 of the MADkhali rulers .... This here is proof!!!
I can never trust or take shamsi seriously after he said that at the time of Hazrat Hussain R.A and Yazeed. He stands with Yazid and fight against Hazrat Hussain R.A.
Madkhalis and Shamsi cult would have been in Yazid army.
Us, whether Sunni or Shia, would have been with Husayn RA.
@@-------....___Shia abandoned husayn and Ali RA
Anyone who stands with yazid is a munafiq plain and simple.
@@haideraliibnakhlaq8823I know that they have problems in Aqeedah. But it's best avoid to make such bold claims. Because that's seems a generalization statement. Even among those who claim to be Ahlus Sunnah there are some Nawasib . Let's pray to Allah Azzawajal that He destroy sectarianism and make us Muslims and one Ummah.
@@haideraliibnakhlaq8823
These lies are pathetic, the sunnis killed Imam Husayn
Your doing it for free was the killer line haha الحمد لله for brother Daniel
Shams has really something not right with his heart.
At the end its jealousy & pettiness hatred.
The world is already crazy
Shamsi & people like him must take a long good look form within
They so busy looking at other's & not looking within.
May Allah guide all of us & protect us from the tricks of shaytan to destroy the love. That's why the ummah is in this unfortunate situation.
May Allah help us all Ameen
Shamsi is a Murji'i Madhkali. May Allah Ar-Razzaq guide him and us. Ameen ☝🏼🇵🇸🤍🤲🏼
Is this the best argument Shamsi can bring ? "you are not a scholar" ?
The prophet peace be upon him taught us how to identify a Munafiq. He did not say you have to be a scholar.
Shamsi creating Bid'ah 24/7
Shamsi is annihilated right here lol
Shamsi: where’s the proof we are paid agents
Also Shamsi: the khulafa were paid agents 🥴
🤦🏽♂️
Lets all start the hashtag trend #boycottmadkhalis
Why shamshi can't speak properly. Does he have vocal problem?
Shamsi man loves to create fights that are non-existent. This guy loves division.
So true wallahi especially when it comes to the current affairs in Palestine. Like why are you trying to say it's OK to have peace relations with isreal? Why now ? How insensitive can you be seriously some people just don't know when to shut up
Shamsi is arrogant in his behavior and don't have knowledge
Shamsi using emotional tactics
The worst day of Shamsi in the park 😂😂😂
Have you seen it fully?
Oyallahi don't mislead !
This jahel Daniel didn't even quote single ayah from Quran , neither from Hadith
It's a must to learn Islam from scholars, not from the TH-cam videos of turaifi
I can't believe how he gets crazy and turns around when he talks to a Muslim you will not see them speak about israel or any Deen disbelievers ruller as they did when american occupation came to iraq and what they did now can you ask them about what Al-Hussein, may allah be pleased with him, and Abdullah bin Al-Zubayr. Was wrong or right? If he said wrong, then he failed. How could he be wrong when the Prophet, pace be open him testified to him? And if they said correct, then they also failed. So why you criticize me, they are only cursing and backbiting Muslims.
Well, i usually don't comment.
An honest review.
Brother Shamsi is completely frustrated and beating around the bush.
Shamsis argument at the start of the video was so stupid. The label that we give these government agents doesnt matter. Half of this debate was Shamsi refusing to answer questions and arguing over semantics.
He roasted him hahaha
As soon as shamsi gets cornered all hell breaks loose 😂😂
The scholars shamsi relies on don’t speak Arabic or can read the Quran, but I digress.
What are the names of the scholars he follows?
@@servercabinet abu Khadija
And who is shamsi to acknowledge who is a shaikh and whos not ??
Shamsi is an ignorant "mujadil" . He just arguing in vain without even thinking . 😠
Abdul Aziz at-Tareefi is not a scholar! 😂😂😂 Shamsi is on a next level of steroids.
Which scholars do you follow? Do you follow shaykh al fawzan?
@@boelichoeli2121 Leave the scholars and follow Sahabah. Will be better for you.
Sahabah rebelled and criticized. Any scholar who says you can't, is not from the Salaf.
To describe Shamsi in short,
An empty _vessel_ sounds much.
Shamsi answers no questions and wants his questions always to be answered. He is very harsh and makes no real points
He just wanted to establish what is a madkhali are they mubtadi so on so forth daniel was waffling also can we continue the discussion of criticizing the ruler you know khariji instigators vs ahlus sunnah on the ruler issue if we can't have some things cleared
This is the first time I listened to Shamsi because Daniel was at Speakers corner and it intrigued me as I watch his content regularly. How do you guys deal with having to listen to Shamsi on a regular basis? This short clip almost gave me a headache subhanAllah. How does Hijab deal with it? 🤦🏻♂️ #Digressing
Shamsi, You lost me with this One. So sad for you.
shamsi: *digresses*
also shamsi: don’t digress
Shamsi lacks basic conversational ethics
Shamsi: 🤡
mashaallah my brother
These Neo salafis raise their voice when they debate and don’t let you speak. I have seen them using these tactics whenever they have a debate or a simple discussion.
He sounds like a Munafiq, they criticize all the rulers, but God forbid cannot criticize Saudis
THAT SHAMSI IS, PARDON ME TO SAY , A PAIN IN THE NECK IF NOT LOWER
Shamsi needs to go home. He jumped the queue somewhere and is in a place he doesnt deserve to be. May Allah guide him.
Shamsi's voice is so unbearable above all he is shouting all the discussion long and interrupting Daniel without making any substantial arguments....Daniel speaks more confidently and is undoubtedly more interesting and knowledgeable.
I don't understand why someone follows an ignorant like shamsi to guide him 😕 😐 🙄, shamsi has a certain method in his conversations and he tries to be seen as the winner but he runs from the principal points of the speech
Madkhalis will never respond when you ask if Shaikh Albani criticised the Rulers?
If he says Shaikh Albani did wrong and failed to understand this issue is hitting axe on his own legs. Baecause all they do in defence of Shaikh Rabee Al Madkhali is by referring how Shaikh Albani praised him.
Shamsi sahme on you you should let who are above you of knowlege speak to educate your attitude and knowlege you should quit madakhlia as soon as possible shame on you😂😂