WOW, what a great job. Did a whole 3 inch system for my 1994 SAAB NG900 Turbo back in 2016. Bought Magnaflow sports cat and SS free flow silencers and some V bands. Had the entire tubing from the junk, SS tubes which came of 12 ton Isuzu lorries during body installation. Did it slowly, and the system is perfect after all the years and 150000 miles.
Your video title suggests you are a "One trick pony", who struck it lucky by cobbling up a jig of some sort. You sold yourself short... there's much more to you than that; I see proper engineering! There are more years than I care to admit since motorsport was my all enveloping passion; my mouth would have salivated at the work you are putting out. Eye-watering! Kudos to "The Muffler Guy", it's refreshing when someone selflessly shares trade secrets. Thanks for an interesting video, Liked and Subscribed.
I made a jig/fixture to make a stock 2007 Corvette Z06 mid pipe to an X pipe. Made one for mine and purchased another to sell. Never sold it. My niche plan was a failure. Good for you!
Its 2:45am, and i watching your masterpiece Sir. Wish I could start all over again and kept trying being a welder. Im too old and too little to late to start a new career. Good job on doing something else still using your skills. Welder health are abused in this industry, and a lot of guys get sick early age due to alot of overtime like 70 hours a week of welding it will take a toll on you welding for 20 years. Anyways, I wanted to say good for you and good job.
I did a similar thing awhile back. Not dump pipes or anything like that but heat shields for volkswagen golfs. I had one on my own car but wasn't overly happy with it so changed the design slightly and used my father in-laws guillotine and folder. Posted a picture of it on a fb page and had a heap of people asking me to make more. A few hours one Saturday and made around 25 of them and sold like hotcakes. Made a few hundred dollars and got some new parts for my car.
Nice job ! I just tig welded a down pipe for my MX5 turbo build. You almost have to unless you purchase a downpipe and manifold combo. I did all mild steel though, because I didn't have a purge system set up . If I like my turbo set up, I might make another on in stainless . I'd like to make a turbo manifold out of stainless too.
I used to make stainless exhausts for Ls engine swaps and I would use solar flux for the inside of the joints saves a lot on gas and time spent purging. I made some cut fixtures that bolt onto the chip saw to for some complex cuts. The scotch bright seams like a waste of time after the thing heats up a few times but I bet the customers are impressed to see the product looking all nice like that.
I'm from a lowly third world country, far removed from the rest of "The West" yet shares all of its interests, and lately I've been working towards making unobtainable parts for ATVs, obtainable to my people, A-arms/control arms, swing arms etc. My plan to doing so is to make jigs of these items and then rinse and repeat, as you've demonstrated. Thanks for the inspiration!
I built a completely custom CNC welding machine which gives you perfect weld for specific part/job that needs to be repeated thousands of times and is in a hard to access and hard to do manually even by a skilled welder, you just load two parts, clamp it, close the door, and hit the start button, it's fully enclosed so you don't even need any protective gear, and it doesn't require anyone skilled to operate it, and it takes only a minute per part. And my salaried job pays me $40k a year...
6:15 "Didn't quite nail the purge." When you started welding my first thought was "he shoulda started at the other end where the purge originates." Putting a diffuser on your purge block should also help so that it's not a narrow stream of gas blowing straight down the middle of the pipe.
I miss fabricating so much, but I don't have my tools anymore or a welder... I want to make a downpipe/crossover pipe for my cummins too... Wonderful video!
Thanks a lot! I really hope you get back into it. I've got a new video coming where I build a complete turbo manifold with basic hand tools (plus a tig welder). Should be out in the next week or two.
@@gleaseman One day I hope to! Suitcase tig welder is high on my list of want items! Something I really want to learn. I used to run a waterjet... so flanges, no problem, as I still have access to the water jet. I worked at a place called flextech industries, they're local and make excellent flexible couplers to order. I'm looking forward to your next video!
Just happened to come across your content. Super well done video man!! Very in depth and shows a great step by step process, thanks for taking the time to make this!!
I was thinking today about how to easily make a jig for repeatable fabrication in a diy setup, thank you so much, seeing the simplicity while being so effective. For something big and on a lot of planes like v8 headers would I jig each individual runner? I have headers for a few different swaps, would i have to ruin them to make a jig?
Lot of niches out there to make money if you take time to do the research. Always have another one to pivot to when the one you're doing becomes saturated. I made a killing making equatorial telescope mount adapters for higher end vintage surveyor tripods on a mini lathe for around 2 years. The Chinese caught on, undercut, and saturated the market, it was good while it lasted. On to the next one.
The evolution saws work pretty good. We bought one for cutting aluminum. I wish they had better clamping. There is a newer style that looks like it has better clamping.
9:53 Takes a lot of practice before you can stack dimes like that on a flat surface. Even longer to get where you can walk around a circle and still be that steady.
You can do it, just need to get your face right down in it , and get your wrist supported real comfortably . You need the hand steady enough to pick I sliver out of your skin with tweezers. Generally if you have good handwriting , you'll get good at welding . I welded for the airlines back in the 80's , and haven't done much since then, but in a matter of 2 weeks it all came back to me. I actually was a young kid back then making $24hr. in the 80's.
Nice Job on the Tube. The huge stick out and Furick cup are huge gas wasters. they look cool and have there place. Your backside will look better with a smaller gas lens and less stick out . Dont ask me why but it will .
Thanks! That's interesting, but I've never heard of that... I deduced that this bad purge was from not using diffuser in the feed end. Never had an issue using larger cups beyond the occasional mess up from stuff like that. As for the gas waste, in my opinion the benefits outweigh the cost significantly!
Current pricing out my z33 top mount turbo kit from ace right now!! Also looking into modifying a locally available rear mount turbo setup for my daily/show car 😭
Nice to see the old Lincoln Square Wave at work. I've got the same one. My only complaint is the non adjustable post flow. Wastes a lot of Argon when tacking and / or doing short welds.
You can add an off delay timer and a solenoid valve to stop your shielding gas as early as you like. The gate of the timer would be connected to your pedal or anywhere in the circuit that's hot when the pedals not.
Nice! It's a great machine. Served me well for 10 years already, and it was used when I purchased it too. I see these going all the time for $1200-1500 in my area. Solid deal. I completely agree with you about the lack of post flow being wasteful. Especially on 30+ cfh jobs. My only other gripe is not having control over the AC balance when I'm doing aluminum. Cheers!
I get that the table works as a big heat sink, my question is was there much contortion from the heat since it wasn’t clamped down during final welding?
Good question! On these downpipes there's nearly no distortion. I intentionally built the jig around a tack welded downpipe, so any movement that does occur should be well within spec.
Thanks! I didn't, they're just the lower portion of a 3" muffler clamp. If I remade this today I would have just had some laser cut from 16ga stainless steel. They'd fit better and wouldn't transfer mild steel scuffs on the Stainless pipes.
Probably a dumb question but what’s a good way to mock-up the bends/lengths you’d need to then base the fixture off of? I guess tack welding some tubes together that works for your application to get the fitment you want and then building the fixture based off that would work, just curious if anyone has any other tricks
Ideally you make the part you need to make directly on the vehicle (or whatever it is), and then you'd go ahead and make a jig around that part. Biggest consideration is making it as reproducible as possible. So that might mean trying to use 45 degree bends instead of some weird "40 degree" bend like OEM may have had. Things like that make the parts easier to source and also speed up the job significantly. Hope that helps!
You make a fixture to do those down pipes and do them quicker. Why don't you have the measurements wrote down on it for each piece so you don't have to keep measuring??
My bad, it's a bit hard to tell. I used the chop saw to make an angle cut to match the angle that the 2-bolt flange sits on. Faster than adjusting the bandsaw.
I had a 93 TT rx7 and i tried to get a muffler shop to remove and straight pipe my cat...they wouldnt but if i brought it in without a cat they would....i hacked it off and drove it up there and i remember almost vomiting from the resonance of having nothing. It actually made me sick and it was so loud....but man did it wake the car up...wow
It's really hard to tell 304, 316, and 321ss apart if it isn't marked. Most common is 304, but if it's magnetic and slightly dull looking it's likely 409ss.
Nah different timeline. I made this jig plus a matching jig for a turbo manifold on an FD RX7. I sold those kits for profit through my website, and then moved onto other generation RX7s and Miatas as I could.
Don't ignore that passion! But you do have to start somewhere. One option is to find a metalworking shop (that's a broad term) to work for get some experience.
Always wanted one, but back 8yrs ago in my prime of building these parts they were still around 5-6 thousand without a Chuck. I'll be fixing up a larger commercial machine in some upcoming vids.
thank you so so much for not playing any annoying music during this awesome video! Seriously thank you.
True!
Amen
WOW, what a great job. Did a whole 3 inch system for my 1994 SAAB NG900 Turbo back in 2016. Bought Magnaflow sports cat and SS free flow silencers and some V bands. Had the entire tubing from the junk, SS tubes which came of 12 ton Isuzu lorries during body installation. Did it slowly, and the system is perfect after all the years and 150000 miles.
Nicely done!! Proves that it's always worth taking your time.
Your video title suggests you are a "One trick pony", who struck it lucky by cobbling up a jig of some sort. You sold yourself short... there's much more to you than that; I see proper engineering!
There are more years than I care to admit since motorsport was my all enveloping passion; my mouth would have salivated at the work you are putting out. Eye-watering!
Kudos to "The Muffler Guy", it's refreshing when someone selflessly shares trade secrets.
Thanks for an interesting video, Liked and Subscribed.
I made a jig/fixture to make a stock 2007 Corvette Z06 mid pipe to an X pipe. Made one for mine and purchased another to sell. Never sold it. My niche plan was a failure. Good for you!
I feel for ya. I did the same on a 370Z! Never sold a single one.
@@gleaseman Thanks for the reply
Its 2:45am, and i watching your masterpiece Sir. Wish I could start all over again and kept trying being a welder. Im too old and too little to late to start a new career. Good job on doing something else still using your skills. Welder health are abused in this industry, and a lot of guys get sick early age due to alot of overtime like 70 hours a week of welding it will take a toll on you welding for 20 years. Anyways, I wanted to say good for you and good job.
I have a tig welder and table in mg garage now to start fabbing up parts. Thanks for the extra motivation to get on it.
This is the greatest thing to hear. Get some!!
I did a similar thing awhile back. Not dump pipes or anything like that but heat shields for volkswagen golfs. I had one on my own car but wasn't overly happy with it so changed the design slightly and used my father in-laws guillotine and folder. Posted a picture of it on a fb page and had a heap of people asking me to make more. A few hours one Saturday and made around 25 of them and sold like hotcakes. Made a few hundred dollars and got some new parts for my car.
Nice job ! I just tig welded a down pipe for my MX5 turbo build. You almost have to unless you purchase a downpipe and manifold combo. I did all mild steel though, because I didn't have a purge system set up . If I like my turbo set up, I might make another on in stainless . I'd like to make a turbo manifold out of stainless too.
I used to make stainless exhausts for Ls engine swaps and I would use solar flux for the inside of the joints saves a lot on gas and time spent purging. I made some cut fixtures that bolt onto the chip saw to for some complex cuts. The scotch bright seams like a waste of time after the thing heats up a few times but I bet the customers are impressed to see the product looking all nice like that.
I'm from a lowly third world country, far removed from the rest of "The West" yet shares all of its interests, and lately I've been working towards making unobtainable parts for ATVs, obtainable to my people, A-arms/control arms, swing arms etc. My plan to doing so is to make jigs of these items and then rinse and repeat, as you've demonstrated. Thanks for the inspiration!
Do it! It will be hard, but then it'll become easy. Where are you from?
@@gleaseman thank you for the encouragement, I'm from good old South Africa
The fixture didn't make you money the wanted quality part you made in the fixture with many skills used made you money.
I built a completely custom CNC welding machine which gives you perfect weld for specific part/job that needs to be repeated thousands of times and is in a hard to access and hard to do manually even by a skilled welder, you just load two parts, clamp it, close the door, and hit the start button, it's fully enclosed so you don't even need any protective gear, and it doesn't require anyone skilled to operate it, and it takes only a minute per part.
And my salaried job pays me $40k a year...
Need more videos like this explaining what rod you use and your method!
Great video. I appreciate seeing a job well done with just enough detail. 👍👍
Thank you for sharing. I started following you many years ago on IG because of your beautiful work on those kits.
Thanks so much, it's really appreciated ❤️
6:15 "Didn't quite nail the purge." When you started welding my first thought was "he shoulda started at the other end where the purge originates." Putting a diffuser on your purge block should also help so that it's not a narrow stream of gas blowing straight down the middle of the pipe.
Thanks for the advice!
I miss fabricating so much, but I don't have my tools anymore or a welder... I want to make a downpipe/crossover pipe for my cummins too... Wonderful video!
Thanks a lot! I really hope you get back into it.
I've got a new video coming where I build a complete turbo manifold with basic hand tools (plus a tig welder). Should be out in the next week or two.
@@gleaseman One day I hope to! Suitcase tig welder is high on my list of want items! Something I really want to learn. I used to run a waterjet... so flanges, no problem, as I still have access to the water jet. I worked at a place called flextech industries, they're local and make excellent flexible couplers to order.
I'm looking forward to your next video!
looks so cool. wish i could do stuff in this field
Top tier craftsmanship here. Great video too. I remember Nigel telling me about you years ago. 👌
Thanks so much!
Just happened to come across your content. Super well done video man!! Very in depth and shows a great step by step process, thanks for taking the time to make this!!
Dude you're welcome, and thanks a lot!
Amazing job!!! Thank for sharing some of your trick's and amazing skills!!
Thanks! Glad you enjoyed it!
Might be worth investing in a cold cut saw. Makes building exhausts much easier.
I’m really glad I found your channel.
Nice work.
Thanks so much!
I like the lathe your using my dad has got that same one and it's a great one too.
Yes welding is expensive but it's paying off 😎
Thinking about try this year to do something
That die grinder you’re using to de-burr is the cats meow. Any chance on sharing the make & model and what bit you use (stone or burr) Thanks 😊
Glad you asked! I've used many and found this to be the best. I use it with 1/8" a single cut burr from McMaster Carr: imgur.com/gallery/hLzBlnc
Awesome welds, That's life goals right there.
Thanks!!
Work of art. Wonderful
Thank you very much!
ooo you purge the pipe before welding it. A+
Awesome video, would love to see what's your thought process when you build the jig, and how you go about building the jig
Thanks! I'm going to release a video on building a turbo manifold soon and I'll likely touch on this.
I was thinking today about how to easily make a jig for repeatable fabrication in a diy setup, thank you so much, seeing the simplicity while being so effective. For something big and on a lot of planes like v8 headers would I jig each individual runner? I have headers for a few different swaps, would i have to ruin them to make a jig?
Lot of niches out there to make money if you take time to do the research. Always have another one to pivot to when the one you're doing becomes saturated. I made a killing making equatorial telescope mount adapters for higher end vintage surveyor tripods on a mini lathe for around 2 years. The Chinese caught on, undercut, and saturated the market, it was good while it lasted. On to the next one.
This is exactly what I'm talking about! Having more than one offering is also great advice.
Surveyors are the best!
Thank you for sharing
Thanks for watching!
Can we take a moment to acknowledge the calculator watch.
Much appreciations!
Great work! Invest in a evolution chop saw. I definitely couldn’t believe I went as long as I did with the abrasive once I got my first one.
That looks like a nice little cold saw setup. Thanks for the heads up!
The evolution saws work pretty good. We bought one for cutting aluminum. I wish they had better clamping. There is a newer style that looks like it has better clamping.
That new Chop-Mitre that they do is something special, accurate mitre cuts, top and front V-block clamps and it eats.
Nice share mate 👍
Thanks!
Spectacular work as always, too bad for the client that he wouldn’t get this work of art in the work of art wood crates 😅 We missed you John!
9:53 Takes a lot of practice before you can stack dimes like that on a flat surface. Even longer to get where you can walk around a circle and still be that steady.
You can do it, just need to get your face right down in it , and get your wrist supported real comfortably . You need the hand steady enough to pick I sliver out of your skin with tweezers. Generally if you have good handwriting , you'll get good at welding . I welded for the airlines back in the 80's , and haven't done much since then, but in a matter of 2 weeks it all came back to me. I actually was a young kid back then making $24hr. in the 80's.
Nice Job on the Tube. The huge stick out and Furick cup are huge gas wasters. they look cool and have there place. Your backside will look better with a smaller gas lens and less stick out . Dont ask me why but it will .
Thanks!
That's interesting, but I've never heard of that... I deduced that this bad purge was from not using diffuser in the feed end. Never had an issue using larger cups beyond the occasional mess up from stuff like that.
As for the gas waste, in my opinion the benefits outweigh the cost significantly!
Man your content is amazing, look that!! 👋🏼💥
Thanks!!
Awesome! Greetings from Portugal
Thanks for your thoughts :-)
Current pricing out my z33 top mount turbo kit from ace right now!! Also looking into modifying a locally available rear mount turbo setup for my daily/show car 😭
Great video mate I need someone like you to teach me properly how to tig weld great workmanship 👍👍👍
Thanks so much! Look for "Dabs Wellington" on Instagram. He's a really talented guy and offers proper welding courses.
Subscription added, thank you for the video.
Thanks!!
Your an inspiration …thanks for sharing
I appreciate that!
This makes me want to get into the finer things in life, such as TIG welding! Beautiful work / Nicely Done 👍😁
Thanks for the video man. Its really inspiring 🎉.
You're welcome! Thanks for taking the time to watch it.
This makes me want to make parts for my 3rd gen 4runner
Do it!
Nice work!
How did you advertise your down pipe when you first started selling them ? Amazing stuff btw !
Nice to see the old Lincoln Square Wave at work. I've got the same one. My only complaint is the non adjustable post flow. Wastes a lot of Argon when tacking and / or doing short welds.
You can add an off delay timer and a solenoid valve to stop your shielding gas as early as you like. The gate of the timer would be connected to your pedal or anywhere in the circuit that's hot when the pedals not.
Nice! It's a great machine. Served me well for 10 years already, and it was used when I purchased it too. I see these going all the time for $1200-1500 in my area. Solid deal.
I completely agree with you about the lack of post flow being wasteful. Especially on 30+ cfh jobs. My only other gripe is not having control over the AC balance when I'm doing aluminum.
Cheers!
@@WireWeHereAny wire diagrams available for a mod like this?
Great stuff. I only trust fabricators and machinists that wear casio calculator watches 😊. Btw, my kit is holding up great! Thnx again!
That you for the motivation
Good job man 🤙🏼
Top tier!
Skills :)
Thanks!
Nice Work
Great watch
Thanks for the time!
Man great vid, you deserve way more subscriber's! 🙌🏾🙌🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾
The cats meow!! Killer video bro!
What was that part roughly in thr middle:
with filling the exaust with gas and welding
why do you need to do that?
The same with the turbo
The gas keeps the Stainless steel from coming in contact with oxygen and "sugaring" on the backside as I weld.
I get that the table works as a big heat sink, my question is was there much contortion from the heat since it wasn’t clamped down during final welding?
Good question! On these downpipes there's nearly no distortion. I intentionally built the jig around a tack welded downpipe, so any movement that does occur should be well within spec.
Great vid ! Did you make them pipe holding bracket things on the jig ?
Thanks! I didn't, they're just the lower portion of a 3" muffler clamp.
If I remade this today I would have just had some laser cut from 16ga stainless steel. They'd fit better and wouldn't transfer mild steel scuffs on the Stainless pipes.
The cast welding excellent!!! what tungsten did you use?
Thanks a lot! I use 2% lanthenated (blue) 3/32" tungsten.
@@gleaseman Thinking about how you welded it, what welder? how about a shop tour video??
Love it! ❤️
Thank you!!
Probably a dumb question but what’s a good way to mock-up the bends/lengths you’d need to then base the fixture off of? I guess tack welding some tubes together that works for your application to get the fitment you want and then building the fixture based off that would work, just curious if anyone has any other tricks
Ideally you make the part you need to make directly on the vehicle (or whatever it is), and then you'd go ahead and make a jig around that part.
Biggest consideration is making it as reproducible as possible. So that might mean trying to use 45 degree bends instead of some weird "40 degree" bend like OEM may have had. Things like that make the parts easier to source and also speed up the job significantly.
Hope that helps!
"In my experience cast steel needs a pre-heat" ....
YOUR experience ??!!!!
🤣
You make a fixture to do those down pipes and do them quicker. Why don't you have the measurements wrote down on it for each piece so you don't have to keep measuring??
This is a really good call. I did keep them written down, but I moved my shop twice in the last few years and likely misplaced my sheet.
Is this the right time and place to get a catback for my FD lol 😆
Awesome!!!
Thanks!!
Would love to see a more in detail video on how you set up and weld the fixture/ jig.
Why did you bandsaw one straight, and chop saw the other?
My bad, it's a bit hard to tell. I used the chop saw to make an angle cut to match the angle that the 2-bolt flange sits on. Faster than adjusting the bandsaw.
@@gleaseman 👍🍻
Curious any reason you don’t use cutting fluid?
Mostly hate the cleaning of an oil before welding on this fussy stuff. I just accept spending a bit more on the consumables which really isn't much.
I had a 93 TT rx7 and i tried to get a muffler shop to remove and straight pipe my cat...they wouldnt but if i brought it in without a cat they would....i hacked it off and drove it up there and i remember almost vomiting from the resonance of having nothing. It actually made me sick and it was so loud....but man did it wake the car up...wow
These doritos can definitely make your ears bleed!
The party is nearly over
Not sure what you mean?
@@gleaseman the western land of plenty
Cool @@sammyd7857
missed opportunity. 3:45 "Recommend Making a Jig" could have been, "getting jiggy with it"
That looks like a old Timex your sporting there?
Good guess, but it's a Casio Ca53
How does one find the market for this?
If it's not marked how do you identify exactly which stainless it is?
It's really hard to tell 304, 316, and 321ss apart if it isn't marked. Most common is 304, but if it's magnetic and slightly dull looking it's likely 409ss.
hi, how many degrees for the preheating? and what about cool down?
I bring them to 250-300f. Just let them cool naturally
@@gleaseman thanks 👍👍, beautiful job 👏🔥
John, lost track of you for a few years. I know you have your Kingsville shop but yup, setting up a business takes a lot of time.
How are you purging the hotside with the t6 flange wide open???
Stuffed with tinfoil, sorry for the lack of clarity!
I assumed based of the quality performed in the rest of the video but wanted to make sure i wasn't crazy haha. @@gleaseman
Which steel you using?
304 stainless
Who makes your laser cut logo plates?
I send them out to a local laser shop when I need another batch.
ay where can we buy this?
Your two hands!
Great !
what welder are you using
It's a Lincoln Square Wave 175
All you need is tens of thousands worth of equipment and a decade or 2s experience
You won't get very far with that attitude
Did you make the Jig from scratch initially or made it from the downpipes you bought from muffler man?
Nah different timeline. I made this jig plus a matching jig for a turbo manifold on an FD RX7. I sold those kits for profit through my website, and then moved onto other generation RX7s and Miatas as I could.
@@gleaseman How did you make the jig? You made a downpipe and the the jig around that?
I'm still learning.
Cheers
@@spartacus09ful yes you would make one exhaust from scratch or buy one then make the jig.
What does a job like that cost?
Around 1k
is it cast stainless turbine housing
This one was just steel
Have you ever run into issues with the o2 bung plug getting jammed up in the threads after welding the bung?
I haven't thankfully
Cool ❤
MOARRRRRR
What does that cost too do that part mod..?
Which part do you mean?
for the hole down pipe build
Around $1000 shipped
man i want to do this, but i have zero tools which is a daunting purchase w no experience
Don't ignore that passion! But you do have to start somewhere. One option is to find a metalworking shop (that's a broad term) to work for get some experience.
🤘🤘🤘🔥
❤️
so your using 304 pipe with a 321 bellows with 309 filler??????
309 on the pipe to pipe joints, 347 on the bellow to pipe joints
The IRS: 👀
why dont you make a jig so that you can roll the pipe to weld it? A small rotator is cheap.
Always wanted one, but back 8yrs ago in my prime of building these parts they were still around 5-6 thousand without a Chuck.
I'll be fixing up a larger commercial machine in some upcoming vids.