Ranking All 7 Paper Mario Games
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How would YOU rank these amazing games??? Let me know; my takes are certainly controversial enough as it is.
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Also, my apologies if I went too harsh on Super Paper Mario or any other game. I trieeed to dial it back a bit this time, and I actually really do love SPM. But it's a ranking video, I gotta give criticism where it's warranted. I felt bad about my Sammer Slander, so I made it the setting for the thumbnail. 😂
7:sticker star
6:colour splash
5:super paper mario
4:paper mario 64
3:ttyd (gcn)
2:origami king
1:ttyd (switch)
@JoProGaming 0:05 You have a Paper Mario 1 T-shirt?
Wow; the first _Paper Mario_ really *is* your favorite of all time.
They’ve *_got_* to remake that one soon.
My ranking:
7. Sticker star: obviously
6. The origami king: controversial yes but I’m a story person and the story is kinda weak the battle system is annoying (especially for me since I suck shit at it) and hot take I find Olivia annoying as shit, I couldn’t even finish this game unlike the rest of the series. And the only character I kind of cared about was Bobby but even then he got on my nerves. And i refused to look up guides for boss fights so they fucked me over and over again. I got to ocean one until I was sick of the battle system and stuff and watched the gameplay for the rest of the game. The only thing I liked were the characters, and specifically the legion of stationary and their personalities though their designs were shit.
5. Color splash: this hurts cause the game isn’t bad and is very funny but the battle system is shit not as shit as sticker star or origami king (depending on who you ask origami king has a better battle system) but still shit. Also I acknowledge that the story is also weak, weaker then origami king tbh The thing cards were annoying too, but the only part I really hated was the steak mini game. Aside from that I had a decent time. Plus I love Huey he was a very fun partner, This is main reasons it’s above origami king cause A. I prefer color splash battle system, i love more characters in color splash, is hella funny, the main villian didn’t annoy me, and I actually finished it and I did enjoy myself, can’t say the same for origami king Yes I admit origami king is the better game but I prefer color splash sorry guys
4. Super paper Mario: by far the best story but story can only go so far when everything else is weak from combat to character design to level design etc. But I can’t ignore how godly I love the story and the flaw with the battle system is it’s easy as shit. So nothing too offensive for me. If the story wasn’t so godly this would be like 5 or 6 but damn the story is so good.
3. Paper Mario 64: the story is weak and is hard carried by the characters and battle system. An inverse of super paper Mario. Everything in this game is good but the story and story is huge for me. But the story isn’t that bad and I love the characters plus this game is pretty funny too
2 thousand year door original. It took everything about n64 and improved on it. The battle system is better the story is so much better the characters are more interesting with great arcs major improvements. The only thing holding it back is the back tracking speaking of which…
1 the thousand year door remake. Take the thousand year door and iron out its flaws and that’s basically it with more content. The remake was perfect everything wrong with the thousand year door was fixed in the remake and they added more. They took perfection and made it better some how idk how they did it but they did amazing game and by far the best paper Mario game in my humble opinion.
I’m ready to get yelled at for putting color splash above origami king and stuff but do know I do acknowledge origami king is a better game but I fucken hated the battle system, I don’t like Olivia, the boss fights were fucken annoying, and I didn’t even finish the game I just watched a gameplay though I’m out
6. Color Splash
5. The Origami King
4. Sticker Star
3.SPM
2. TTYD
1. 64
0. Bug Fables
I know most fans hate SS but I personally think CS and TOK have way more bad game designs.
9 Super Paper Mario because the only good thing is that there's only one toad
8 Sticker Star
7 The Origami King R.I.P Bob-omb😢
6 Colour Splash needs a remake to fix the battles and lack of partners
5 The Thousand Year Door aka Backtracking: The Game
4 Paper Mario 64, the most nostalgic game ever
3 The Thousand Year Door HD
2 Bug Fables because I saw a game over screen
1 Paper Mario 64 HD, hopefully on Tuesday 🙏🙏🙏
me clicking on countless of these videos already knowing the exact outcome every single time
i mean its pretty obvious how most of the games rank really
its incredibly obvious that sticker star is the worst one and its incredibly obvious that ttyd is (usually) the best one
im pretty sure the only game that fluctuates rankings is tok
Ah, yes, I am delighted to read that people seem to expect Paper Mario 64 to be on top on every list, as it should be! It is my personal favorite for sure!
As a Super Paper Mario fan, I’d never fault someone for putting it under Origami King. It really is a matter of highs and lows, and it’s incredibly hard to argue that Origami King has far more consistency. While OK’s story and characters aren’t nearly as good as SPM, it doesn’t have any of those abysmal lows in the actual game design.
I'm sorry, did we play the same two games?
@@warping2435He isn't wrong though.
@@jaretco6423 Except he is lol
Tired of everyone pretending that Origami King is this great game just because it's only okay and not absolute dog shit.
Go back and replay it, I dare you. The problem with the battles is worse than Color Splash and Sticker Star combined, probably the worst in the entire series, and the world's are so empty in comparison to before that it doesn't matter. Supers highs AND lows were exponentially better than the slogfest that was Origami King
@@warping2435 It's fine if you think so. While I agree the battle system isn't the best, it's not really that atrocious and I would rather have that than the ones from Super-Color Splash. And the worlds is way better than anything Super-Color Splash offers.
@@jaretco6423 It literally is though. For how much people bitch and complain about color splash and sticker star at least those battles went by fast. The Origami Kings battles were tedious and unenjoyable, the bosses were all uncreative, I think the paper aesthetic needs to go away because any charm it could potentially have had has been ruined by mediocrity. I mean come on. A fucking colored pencils pack as a boss? And Gameplay wise too. The only chapter in Origami King that was fun to play was the sea level, and that was empty as shit.
Hypothetically if Bug Fables was a Paper Mario game where would it rank?
I think within this video's ranking it'd be 4th, but it's hard to say since it's not the Mario universe it automatically has less appeal/charm to me, so it may actually be 5th or 6th. Mechanically it's better than nearly every PM game but it just doesn't hit me emotionally the same ya know?
@@JoProGaming Yeah that's fair, I gave it a try a few years ago but got kind of bored around the third chapter but I want to give it another chance some time.
i gatta try it out after i do almost everything in ttyd remake
Just as good as the og paper Mario, not as good as thousand year door, way better than super paper Mario
@@MusicJunkie37I also played a few years ago. I thought it was a really well done game but I also lost interest after a while. I still prefer 64 and TTYD but think I'd put Bug Fables next.
My personal list (Based on what I've played, haven't played 64 or SS) is
1. Super Paper Mario
2. TTYD (Switch)
3. The Origami King
4. Color Splash
The comment section's take on SPM is kinda upsetting to me, I love that game so much. Even if it has some really annoying parts, I just love the gameplay overall and the story. I love the mix of platforming and RPG elements. The Thousand Year Door is an absolute masterpiece, and deserves all the praise it gets. That being said, I do like Super more.
agree totally
You completed Color Splash 3 times ?! That's an achievement!... Only once for me, and that's enough.
Paper Mario 64 was my first introduction to an RPG. I was so excited to open up Sticker Star on Christmas morning and found myself disheartened by what my beloved franchise had become. I’d be curious to see what a remake/remaster of Super Paper Mario would look like on a modern console if Nintendo listened to the feedback of their consumers.
You had me yelling at my phone with that SPM troll 😂
In the original edit I went on about it for like 20 seconds about it being the worst game and then was like "JUST KIDDING hahaha this is a prank" and then cut all of that because I realized half the viewers would have instantly clicked off and not made it to the just kidding. 😅
@@JoProGamingeven #5 is low for my tastes but I definitely respect everything you said and I agree with most of it. The story definitely carries imo I think it’s the best story in any Mario game ever, which takes it a long way for me even if the gameplay is far from the best of the series
@@NomadQuinn And i kind of personally think thats kind of the issue.
Good gameplay (In my opinion) is the most important for a Video game. That doesn't mean good story graphics/music etc. are unimportant. But gameplay kind of is.. .what makes games, games. If that makes sense.
Didn't played Super Paper mario myself (only seen it) so i cant give a deeper analysis.
@@Acacius1992 definitely agree with you there, although I definitely don’t think the gameplay is BAD in SPM by any means, just not as good as the turn-based games
@NomadQuinn Agree with you too!
The best term i would coin it here is not bad, just... missmatched with the overall style of gameplay?
I think it could have worked if they maybe tweaked it a bit, making it maybe a bit more skill based or the enemies more difficult/less easily exploidable
if we want to be technical, none of the paper mario games have experience points, as their counterparts are called star points. lol
I've also thought the same thing about Paper Mario 64's art style and sprites. They give the characters so much more personality to them, ESPECIALLY Mario. Although PM64 lacks extensive partner dialogue like in TTYD, Mario himself is more expressive which makes up for it. For example, he has animations just for eating and drinking foods! TTYD Mario often comes off as borderline uncanny valley with his lack of animation, which is compounded since his partners do all of the talking and exposition for him.
It might sound like a detail but one thing the OG TTYD made that I really liked, was when you start a chapter, there was a moment of silence before finally showing the area name and starting the muisc at the same time. Like in chapter 5, there is that moment of intro silence where Mario is looking at the sea, to then finally show the area name, start the music and give control all at the same time which was really great for starting the chapter.
1. Paper Mario TTYD Remake
2. Paper Mario TTYD
3. Paper Mario N64
4. Super Paper Mario
5. Paper Mario King
6. Paper Mario Colour
7. Paper Mario Sticker
I understand the hate for sticker star but idk why probably nostalgia but I remember loving that game. But easily ttyd is easily the best game in the series
1. TTYD Switch (10/10)
2. TTYD GCN (9.5/10)
3. SPM (8/10)
4. Paper Mario 64 (8/10)
5. Origami King (7/10)
6. Color Splash (6/10)
7. Sticker Star (5/10)
TTYD is by far my favorite game in the franchise, as it has everything you could want from a Paper Mario game: solid turn-based RPG gameplay, a zany cast of followers and NPCs, a compelling story, and a solid visual style with just a hint of the paper aesthetic. And, the Switch TTYD remake is absolutely the definitive version of the game to play, with its handful of QOL changes and its greatly enhanced music and graphics.
SPM for the Wii was a fun game. Its turning away from the established RPG mechanics definitely knocks it down a few points, and I also am not a fan of its visual style / character design. However, its 3D gameplay is creative, and it earns a few points back for having a compelling narrative, placing it just above PM64 for me.
Paper Mario 64 is the baseline for the series. It is a fun game with decent RPG mechanics. Although the visuals are outdated and the story is quite basic, it is still very fun and I enjoy the storybook aesthetic.
Origami King did a lot of things right, almost making it a return-to-form for the series (for example with its expansive overworld). The visuals are very gorgeous, and its use of the papercraft aesthetic was creative. However, the battle mechanics simply were not fun at all, the bosses took the papercraft aesthetic too far, and its lack of zany characters was very disappointing.
Color Splash and Sticker Star are certainly the low points in the series. The battle system is shallow, and the characters and storytelling were uninteresting. That said, the games are not altogether awful or unplayable (they're not 0/10 games). Color Splash wins out over Sticker Star for having improved visuals, and the painting mechanic made it just that much more interesting.
7. Sticker Star
6. Color Splash
5. Origami King
4. PM64
3. TTYD (GCN)
2. TTYD (Switch)
1. SPM
...yes that does mean your section on SPM was kind of painful to watch but at least I kinda saw it coming with how much prefacing you did. Personally I'm all in on the story and character aspect of Paper Mario so how ambitious those are plays the biggest role in my ranking over anything else (with uncensored Vivian... and i guess also the quality of life updates and HD visuals being the qualifier for the TTYD remake). SPM's story is just that fantastic to me, and I also don't understand the complaints about the art style, to me the use of shapes was less "lazy Flash-looking slop" and more "abstract stylistic flair to suit its setting of a far off unfamiliar dimension" with the less interesting NPC designs just being because they weren't as important, so they had no need to convey anything but "general locals of this world which has an abstract geometric style"
The gameplay complaints I do get, but at the same time I'm so used to them it's just like "eh whatever" plus they really are, from my perspective, something I'd rather have x100 over the frustrating leash placed on the story and characters with every game after it, including TOK. For all the things TOK does do better than SPM, I just can't bring myself to care about those more than what it was not allowed to do, which in many places you can see where they wanted to do more but were restrained by rules and limitations. Those limitations, since their introduction, have been THE singular thing that pisses me off the most about newer games, and I genuinely hope the TTYD remake marks the permanent end of them. As for 64, it's a great game and it does do a lot better than TTYD but it comes down to the story and characters again, I think each sequel improved that aspect by making it more ambitious and less safe, until Sticker Star set us back x1000. 64 is easily my favorite take on the classic Mario story, but I just like that later entries told new stories that expanded beyond the status quo. I will say I agree that 64 (and even Origami King) have better level design (layout wise) than TTYD, and 64 and TTYD have better gameplay than SPM, but I'm just that biased towards the story and character side of things.
Absolutely a fair take! SPM does some things so well.
Completely agree, SPM takes the „true“ core of the series and amps it up to eleven, while the games after took what SPM didn’t have and didn’t add anything else (remember, Experience points were in SPM, so Sticker Star had to throw them out I guess)
Except TTYD has overall way more good characters than SPM, SPM only beats it with its maincharacters like Dimentio, but counting all characters of the games, TTYD has much more.
@@xDomaTV I disagree. Not only are the main villains great, but there’s just plenty of fun characters in Flip- and Flopside and the other chapters
@@geschnitztekiste4111 still not as many as TTYD has in its chapters
Finally someone mentions Mario's hat problem in Super!! I always thought it was positioned too far down on his head but nobody else seemed to notice so i thought it was just me
honestly as someone who always wanted to play the original TTYD, the remake gave me that chance I always wanted. Long ago I watched a playthrough of Chuggaconroy playing the original TTYD and instantly fell in love with the game. however the game came out when I was like one or two years old. I really do appreciate Nintendo for bringing alot of their classics to full swing on the switch. even if the remake isn't as good as th original it still has that same charm and personality that the original had. I am really glad I could play this game in it's full glory even if it is 20 years later
1. Paper Mario TTYD Remake
2. Paper Mario TTYD
3. Paper Mario N64
4. Super Paper Mario
5. Paper Mario King
6. Paper Mario Color splash
7. Paper Mario Sticker star
I was honestly surprised at the switch between SPM and Origami but I understand. The points were pretty valid but it just goes to show that everybody has a preference on what they like in an RPG barring that nostalgia doesn't play too much into it. Objectively speaking Origami takes the W for level design but IMO the storyline and unique characters in SPM just brought so much more to the table for me as I didn't really like any of the bosses in origami king as they felt uninspired or unique at all. Especially after the first boss you pretty much get the gist that every boss is gonna be like it with its thematic gimmick. And I know that sometimes it's not about the conclusion but the journey but there's nothing sweeter than a boss that fits a theme and a buildup but origami king using regular desk tools is just too lame for me. Especially when you have wonderful examples from paper mario N64 and TTYD which have original bosses that are so unique and memorable. Both TTYD and PM64 are memorable for me as I grew up playing both on their native consoles beating both several times over so honestly with the remake being so wonderful in ways that I liked more than the original I'm praying we don't just get the remake for PM64 but we also get the true RPG sequel in the series that rival both of the first paper mario's. Will we ever see it? I will pray for it that's for sure. Complete the true paper mario RPG trilogy Nintendo!
Paper Mario Color Splash needs either a remaster for Nintendo Switch or beyond or a complete remake!
I own the original game, but to bring out my Wii U to play is a headache not worth having.
It's your opinion, no need to apologize for it. Personally, I like Color Splash better than Origami King and Super Paper Mario though. I dunno, it just has that quirky writing and charm of TTYD for me.
Great video Kammy Koopa! While I don’t agree where you have Super, it’s still a great video to watch and I enjoyed it!
I actually liked sticker star and i couldnt understand why people disliked it i can understand now that im slightly older but i think its an alright game i like the battle system and the game is so good looking
It’s a fun experience but it feels like such a drop off compared to the prior games. The gameplay is flat and the story is flat it threw out all the good the series has for a dumb reason
My ranking:
7. Sticker star: obviously
6. The origami king: controversial yes but I’m a story person and the story is kinda weak the battle system is annoying (especially for me since I suck shit at it) and hot take I find Olivia annoying as shit, I couldn’t even finish this game unlike the rest of the series. And the only character I kind of cared about was Bobby but even then he got on my nerves. And i refused to look up guides for boss fights so they fucked me over and over again. I got to ocean one until I was sick of the battle system and stuff and watched the gameplay for the rest of the game. The only thing I liked were the characters, and specifically the legion of stationary and their personalities though their designs were shit.
5. Color splash: this hurts cause the game isn’t bad and is very funny but the battle system is shit not as shit as sticker star or origami king (depending on who you ask origami king has a better battle system) but still shit. Also I acknowledge that the story is also weak, weaker then origami king tbh The thing cards were annoying too, but the only part I really hated was the steak mini game. Aside from that I had a decent time. Plus I love Huey he was a very fun partner, This is only above origami king cause I actually finished it and I did enjoy myself. Yes I admit origami king is the better game but I prefer color splash sorry guys
4. Super paper Mario: by far the best story but story can only go so far when everything else is weak from combat to character design to level design etc. But I can’t ignore how godly I love the story and the flaw with the battle system is it’s easy as shit. So nothing too offensive for me. If the story wasn’t so godly this would be like 5 or 6 but damn the story is so good.
3. Paper Mario 64: the story is weak and is hard carried by the characters and battle system. An inverse of super paper Mario. Everything in this game is good but the story and story is huge for me. But the story isn’t that bad and I love the characters plus this game is pretty funny too
2 thousand year door original. It took everything about n64 and improved on it. The battle system is better the story is so much better the characters are more interesting with great arcs major improvements. The only thing holding it back is the back tracking speaking of which…
1 the thousand year door remake. Take the thousand year door and iron out its flaws and that’s basically it with more content. The remake was perfect everything wrong with the thousand year door was fixed in the remake and they added more. They took perfection and made it better some how idk how they did it but they did amazing game and by far the best paper Mario game in my humble opinion.
I’m ready to get yelled at for putting color splash above origami king and stuff but do know I do acknowledge origami king is a better game but I fucken hated the battle system, I don’t like Olivia, the boss fights were fucken annoying, and I didn’t even finish the game I just watched a gameplay though I’m out
For some reason my editing isn’t working so I’ll add in my color splash I put it above origami king because I prefer color splash’s battle system more, I find it funnier, the main villian didn’t make me groan, I liked Huey more then any of the characters in origami king, and unlike origami king I actually finished the game and had a fun Time unlike origami king
1. TTYD
2. 64
3. Super
4. Origami King
5. Sticker Star
I haven’t played Color Splash.
TTYD improves on most things from 64, such as the combat system, badges, partners, dialogue, bonus content such as pit of 100 trials, and unique levels such as Glitz Pit and the Excess Express. 64 does have better level design, but overall, TTYD’s strengths outweigh 64’s. 64 is still a masterpiece.
I enjoyed Super, but it didn’t feel like a Paper Mario game to me. The Story is amazing, and most of the levels are fun, but I really missed the combat system, as well as the partners from the first two games. I still had a fun time with it.
I really wanted to love Origami King. I found the combat to be quite tedious and meaningless expect for the bosses. The world and music are beautiful, but the gameplay is kinda mediocre. Besides Olly and Olivia, everything felt generic. I thought it was just fine, not good or great.
Sticker Star felt like a chore to beat.
My ranking (haven't played PM64 yet):
6. Sticker Star (3/10)
5. Color Splash (7/10)
4. SPM (9.5/10)
3. TTYD Original (9.5/10)
2. Origami King (10/10)
1. TTYD Remake (10/10)
It's honestly crazy how good this franchise is, 3 out of the 5 games I've played are in my Top 25 favorite video games of all time and PM64 would probably land there as well
5 out of 10 for SS to way too high (SS is Sticker Star, not the other SS if you know that i mean)
@@cloverfinderboygamer3573 You know what? I fully agree, don't know what I was thinking, it's changed now
1. Thousand Year Door
2. Origami King
3. 64
4. Super
5. Color Splash
6. Sticker Star
7. Paper Mario: Color Splash
6. Paper Mario: Sticker Star
5. Paper Mario: The Origami King
4. Paper Mario 64
3. Super Paper Mario
2. Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door
1. Paper Mario: TTYD Remake
Würde 3 und 4 noch switchen, ansonsten absolut richtig diggi
hi kammy koopa!
😐
Ranking all Paper Mario Boss-Fights? :)
Hidden bosses and main bosses included.
By difficulty or personal opinion, music, build up, how it fits to the level, etc., etc.
My personal list is:
1. TTYD Switch
2. TTYD GC
3. TOK
4. 64
5. SPM
6. Color Splash
7. Sticker Star
As someone who played the OG and the remake, the text speed is really the only true downside as I see it. The menus don't feel slow to me at all but that may because those who really memorize every movement and placement are really the only ones who might notice a slight difference. The game is overtly polished otherwise, a lot of love and care that the series had been missing for a very long time.
Also yes, I personally put TOK over 64 which may be blasphemy but I overall enjoyed my playthrough of TOK. It felt like an epic adventure the whole way through and Olivia was a great character throughout. At times, 64 felt like a slog and the partners, while awesome as they are, just... aren't well used or developed on. Aside the chapter they're introduced, the partners don't get many chances to shine unlike in TTYD- I kept Goombella out almost all the time because of her amazing SASS). The battles are better than TOK but as an overall adventure and experience, sadly TOK won me over way more.
Oh yeah, something I've been waiting for!
pm64 truly is the goat
Thank you for being brave enough to put SPM into where it actually belongs
You're welcome!
Also? I'm scared of the anger filled rage to come.
So close, our lists were almost exactly the same. For me it's:
7. Sticker Star
6. Color Splash
5. Super Paper Mario
4. Origami King
3. TTYD
2. TTYD Remake
1. PM64
To me without a question the remake is superior, it all depends on what you value but the amount of new boss songs we got makes it not close for me, together with the better visuals, improved backtracking and all the additional polish like so many new poses for the partners and NPC's, I don't see myself going back to the original anytime soon.
For the rest I basically agree with everything you've said here, I especially didn't expect our Origami King and Super Paper Mario ranking to line up like this. And yeah, PM64 is very close to TTYD, but it's still my favorite. Besides the fact that I'm an enemy modder for that game, I just have so many special memories specifically to that game that I can't really see any Paper Mario game beating it anytime soon.
Overall, I'm happy my personal list lines up this well with someone else's for once
I've been changing my mind every day on if the remake or og is my favorite of the two.
Really if it weren't for the text speed and battle speed I'd put the remake higher for sure.
The reason why SPM looks really similar to ttyd is because they were developed around the same time
I also want to say that SPM was originally supposed to be on Gamecube, so it would make sense for them to use a lot of the same graphics.
@@LuigiFan04 Yes that too thank you!
Someone actually made a video where they imported TTYD assets into SPM and vise versa.
Mario looks like edgy doopliss Mario in super
Dimentio means SPM should be in the #1 spot and all other opinions are invalid.
cool list kammy koopa
😒
Kammy Koopa
😟
@@JoProGaming*k a m m y k o o p a*
MY Ranking!!:
7) Sticker star
6) Color Splash
5) Super Paper Mario (Sorry, but I did not like this game at all😅)
4) Paper Mario 64
3) Paper Mario Origami King
2) Paper Mario TTYD
1) Paper Mario TTYD Remake
I wonder what game will come in last /s
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Super being put below a modern paper mario game. Now I know you're being honest, and I love to see it.
7:56 Origami King fans celebrating rn
I know I am. I also enjoyed SPM though. Just hated it didn't let you explore anywhere.
I actually think SPM has the worst combat system in the series. It’s the amazing story that carries it imo
@@Pluto5323 Not true. There are a ton of things to explore in Flipside and Flopside.
@@SuperSimmerGal yes but the fact you have to stay in the 2d line up. Sure you can go into 3d but it's not much different.
@@RexFlareWorst than Sticker Star & Color Splash?
Good video, man. I'm tired of people pretending that adding unique NPC, partners and a better story will fix SS's main problems. I also agree with your criticism of SPM, the most important aspect in a game, the gameplay is not very good. I would dare to say that you have less replayability than SS.
6. Sticker Star
5. Origami Salami
4. Supper Paper Mario
3. TTYD GCN
2. TTYD Switch
1. Paper Mario 64
Origami Salami is actually a very Funny Name
Sucker Star
Origami C🐈nt
Soup Pepe Mario
Paper Mario The Thousand Year Dialogue
Paper Millennial 69
Based 64 in 1st place
bias@@JoProGaming
Great video kami koopa
personally i dont have any complaints abt the boss designs in tok because like
after 2 whole games where 'things' are literally just lock and key items adding nothing substantial to the experience, you go into origami king and you literally beat 'things' up and i think that's absolutely hilarious
plus this time all the things are actually directly related to paper
prediction before the video:
7. SS
6. CS
5. OK
4. SPM
3. 64
2. TTYD
1. TTYD switch
eh close enough, general structure is the same (side note this isnt my opinion i think 64 is better than ttyd)
my only problem with the remake is it kinda neutered the audience throwing things mechanic by forcing you to react to it each time
Rawk Hawk vs O'Chunks!
I loved your your list. Specially because Paper Mario 64 is my favorite of all time! ❤
If it helps, I got through the first minute of the video, saw the comment from you apologizing for being harsh on Super Paper Mario, and hey that's alright. I'm not gonna judge you if it is (or one of) your least favorite of the Paper Mario series! It's where it kinda fell for a lot of people. This comment's just putting my thoughts out.
SPM was my first of the Paper Mario games I played, and while I'd have for sure ranked it above Sticker Star and Color Splash just for its story and memorable cast, it's...still very flawed. The platforming gameplay just doesn't match up well with Paper Mario, even though the 3D mechanic is quite enjoyable. Way more enjoyable than the trial and error/one-time use for basic actions in SS and CS by far though.
...Honestly I'd have put it over TOK as well because the timer-based gameplay in TOK turns me into a nervous wreck. And that's pretty much the only reason 😂
My favorite thing about Super Paper Mario is when I grinded to level 99 by repeatedly bouncing on rocks shot out by the purple pig enemies early game, just so I could one shot Super Dimentio. I hated doing the Pit of 100 Trials Flopside twice though, and it definitely felt like a troll move. I'm just happy I can skip most of Mimi's servitude chapter. I only did it legit once.
I think ttyd is the better game and story, but there's still a lot to like about the original. To your point I really like how animated Mario is in the original particularly in battle. I like he actually drinks the syrup, plants the fire flower, and has more animations win he wins the battle. But the sequel just is an epoch lol
Honestly! I fully respect SPM being where it is. In fact, I am really, really happy to see Origami King actually getting some love for once. It undoubtedly has some real strengths which are often ignored, and I think it really does stand up as a great game... even if I really do wish it were allowed to have its full potential as opposed to still being held back in a few areas :)
This is coming from another childhood SPM player btw. Love the game to bits but, yeah ya gotta admit sometimes that its seriously the story hard carrying that game. Probably the best story in the whole series but, alas, I would definitely rather be exploring TOK's wonderful worlds than dealing with some of the BS spm throws at you time and time again 😅
Why did you put both ttyds if you would rank them right next to eachother.
okay kammy koopa
Here’s mine:
1. TTYD Remake
2. TTYD Original
3. N64
4. Origami King
5. Super
6. Color Splash
7. Sticker Star
The sad thing about Super….if it only had a decent combat system, it would likely be top contender. An actual imposing battle against Bleck and Dimentio instead of them dying in like 5 seconds, I literally was running around letting those 2 attack me just to hear their music lol. It has the best story by far and imo the best soundtrack.
Paper Mario 64 is a game I hold near and dear to my heart. I played it over and over and I just absolutely love how charming and fun it is.
Rankings:
7. Sticker Star
6. Color Splash
5. Super Paper Mario
4. Origami King
3. TTYD Remake
2. The Thousand Year Door
1. Paper Mario 64
I’m really surprised with how many people are putting the remake above the original, no shame at all, there are a lot of perks, but personally the snappiness of the menus and battle ui is so important to me that the remake doesn’t quite live up, even though I still love it.
Sorry, but as someone who never got to experience the original Thousand Year Door and is currently watching someone do a blind playthrough of the remake… and as someone who can't stand nostalgic stuff… yeah I'm going with the remake.
Well everyone has their own rankings but mine are:
1.TTDY both
2. Paper Mario
3.Super Paper Mario
4. Origami King
5. Color Splash
6. Sticker Star or Trash Star
I 100% agree on this 👍🏻
As someone who has only played the remake, the only thing I REALLY feel like I'm missing out on is the text speed. TTYD is definitely a multiple playthrough game for me, but as soon as I started my second run I was wishing I could skip through text or at least scroll faster. I don't care, at all, if skipping text causes characters to get cut off mid "voice sound".
7. Sticker star
6. Color splash
5. Paper Mario
4. Super paper Mario
3. Origami king
2. TYD remake
1. Original TYD
Give me your arguments in my replies
you put Paper Mario so low to piss us off... right?😢
@@hibob38 perhaps… 😉
@@lightstar3817 lol
TTYD remake could be "perfection" if they just add these small things :
- Bring back the more snappy menu we got on battle
- Have the option to use "FAST TEXT" , something that it DRAGS a lot on the remake
- Give you the option to SKIP , so if you replay its more smooth
- HAVE A HARD MODE , something that everyone were asking
- To be honest , the TTYD remake is "the Paper mario game" to play if you have never played TYYD but I could go back and replay the original anytime I want because on how fast , responsive and snappy it is.
the way they fixed so much of the back tracking in the remake made me like it even more. plus you get to fight Mush ... MUSH!!
Super Paper Mario has Castle Bleck
I found OK kinda forgettable tbh, insofar as I forgot it. I’ve only played it, Paper Mario 64, and Color Splash once each, and it was the most recent of the three, and yet I remember it the least. I didn’t even remember the bob-bomb party member guy who sacrificed himself, and still don’t really remember anything about him even after hearing people talk about him in TH-cam comments.
This video has some very reasonable opinions in all fairness! While I'm more eager to play Super Paper Mario any day over the Origami King, your points still stand. In fact, they almost make me want to consider the latter the more superior game. Also, I respect your points on both the original and remake of the Thousand Year Door. Even if I am willing to admit the remake has more advantages over the original, I think the original is smoother to play. No amount of cut backtracking would change my mind on this opinion. As for your preference for the original game, I can live with it! In fact, should I ever reengage with creating Paper Mario animations, I may have to take more cues on how the characters are animated in that game instead of the Thousand Year Door.
Honestly I'm happy we're given a chance to show our support for the original paper mario by Nintendo remaking the game, but I would've also loved to see a remake of the original N64 paper mario. It's way more outdated than TTYD. Maybe in the next half decade.
If they would give ttyd remake, 2-3 decent patches, it could easily win. But it's nintendo and their post launch support is very hit or miss
i feel like I’m missing out on lore why do people call him kammy koopa
I actually agree with you on the origami king being better than Super Paper Mario. I replayed both in leading up the TTYD rerelease. Origami King is fun and super charming. I found myself smiling while playing and genuinely enjoyed the game. Super has a deeper and richer story but I just simply enjoyed Origami King more from aesthetics and atmosphere.
I know this is a more Paper Mario focused channel, but what are your thoughts on the other Mario RPGs? Do you think they are as good as the Papers?
I like Bowser's Inside Story and I've played all of them but Paper Jam, and they're fine. Not my favorites but good games.
Mario RPG is great! I don't really like the battle system but the characters and world are great.
I'd rank Mario RPG below SPM but above CS and SS.
My List (Haven't Played all of them)
7. Sticker Star
6. The Origami King
5. Color Splash
4. TTYD Original
3. 64
2. TTYD Rem
1. SPM
You and your community are breaking my heart for disrespecting one of the greatest games, called Super Paper Mario.
In fact, a lot of people admit that SPM is just a forgotten underdog.
I partly understand your criticism. I would agree that the pixels don't really have a good character design, and the graphics are a bit unic (not bad, just unic and good in their own way).
But despite all of that, we got an awesome story (I would consider it the best Nintendo story of all time) and really enjoyable gameplay. I played SPM multiple times, and I will do it again.
Games like Sticker Star, Color Splash, and Origami King are not even close at being enjoyable to be played again.
I won't explain why SPM is such a good game. There are enough good videos already out there.
I do understand why people prefer and like ttyd and Paper Mario 64 more than SPM. They are also really awesome games, BUT to put SPM that low in this rating is just wrong.
I think too many people aren't getting the true essence of SPM, and that's why it is an underrated master piece.
SPM community, please. I need all of your voices now 🙏
Lol. Super is the worst game, aside from Sticker Star. It abandoned everything that was great about the series just as much as SS did
@Jay_Jay_Guy like I said, someone with that statement didn't get the true essence of this masterpiece.
The complexity behind the story is so great and often not understood and appreciated.
I found a video over an hour explaining it, and it was wonderful.
@@TheFortress1000 Trust me. there's a difference between being blind to the good OR bad and understanding and weighing both.
Super has good, redeemable aspects-- but it maddens me that it was WASTED on a game like Super. When I played it, it was unfun, uninteresting and unlike anything I like about the Paper Mario series. Namely, the character designs and world design is terrible, and the music (which is arguably my favorite and most important part of any game) doesn't hold a candle to the rest of the games. Even Sticker Star's music blows Super's out of the water.
@Jay_Jay_Guy sorry to hear that...
And I just wanna mention that SPM has a lot of awesome music tracks.
Just go and hear the final boss track against Dimenzio again.
@@Jay_Jay_Guy tbh I completely disagree with your statement. Super yes did abandon the good things that were from the older paper Mario games, but your critiques come from the differences between this game and his predecessor. I can agree on the character designs to not be the best but honestly with such a great story it's forgiving. Also the pixels are really underrated. Yes they aren't as interesting as per say TTYD's partners but at least they are useful and each have their own use in gameplay... Origami King's partners... Cough cough... And also you are trying to judge the game not for what it is but for what it isn't... You talk about missed potential in the game but tbh as for the game it is trying to be I didn't find actually any missed potential... It's not actually meant to be an RPG, yes it has some elements for it... But is it really an RPG? No. It's unique from the rest of the franchise and it's fine like this
The original just is something special
It’s so good to know that I’m not the only one that doesn’t like the level design in Super Paper Mario. Story and characters are great, but actually playing the game was kind of unbearable sometimes.
I guess as a casual player who loved TTYD growing up but hasn’t played it in a few years due to the inconvenience of setting up my GameCube or Wii (also never got into emulations, again very casual) the remake scratches the itch and I don’t remember the original enough to nitpick what’s missing but enjoy the QoL improvements overall. However recently playing 64 with Nintendo online I can say they’re different enough to warrant playing both from time to time. Battle system improvements aside I love the first two games about equally at this moment.
I think the TTYD remake is definitely better than the original, especially due to the huge upgrade the soundtrack received. That being said, I still wish it did a little more. The two new bosses are okay, but I wish there were more. Super Mario RPG had boss rematches, so why couldn't TTYD do something similar?
Also I wish they changed the badge availability, like making every badge available to buy in either the badge shop or casino. And if that sounds too good, they could have unlocked that in the post game.
2:06 I actually think that sticker star could have been great if…
-It had partners
-A level up system
-Normal paper Mario chapters
-Normal attacking
-Maybe a power up system like using fire flowers, ice flowers and maybe tanooki suits on certain platforms instead of the curses
-New puzzle aspects
-More character depth
-more character diversity (not just toads)
-more story.
Okay I think you get what I’m saying. Besides like every important point a paper Mario offers it was good😂
But now for real, I feel like sticker star is not a bad game. But it’s a bad paper Mario game.
Color Splash… I just didn’t want to buy it after sticker star. The let’s plays weren’t really mine either.
Super paper Mario has a great story and it was incredible playing it for the first time which makes it besides the battle and level system a good paper Mario. Sadly the partner system wasn’t good either. But characters and story were really nice.
Origami King, does many things right. Better story again, better world in my opinion, lots of fun but the battle system was kind of weird for me. It was fun at the beginning but especially when replaying I just feel like battling is a chore instead of fun. The confetti system is cool though. And I think that the boss battles look really weird. Anyways, it made massive steps into the right direction.
Paper Mario 64 is really nice. I love it. It was great the big chapters with funny and cool characters, some cool puzzle aspects that still don’t feel like a chore even after all these years. Cool bosses, great level system, great battle system, great story, lots of diversity, and I like collecting and starting to remember more and more of the collectibles in the game by heart.
And now…
Ttyd. Literally all of the above but put a 10x better on top.
Even better story okay. Best story in the entire series. Best fighting system, best partners (okay Bow is like my favourite partner of all time and I wish we had a boo or a ghost like Luigi had as a partner but yeah, can’t be perfect right?), incredible chapters especially the sixth(?) (train) and chapter 3. okay I personally think chapter 2 is kind of tedious but hey. It’s still a good chapter just not my cup of tea. But the world of TTYD is just connected it feels like a real world it’s not just „yeah I exist and I’ve never seen anything than the 3 metres beside me and maybe another NPC“ it feels like basically everyone has a story everyone knows many people and knows lots of things about the world. It just feels like an actual world that they put thought into and tried to make it feel alive.
Ttyd switch: Yeah it has gotten easier, yeah items are really common now, but there is so much going for it that I think that it is an upgrade from the GameCube version. Is it the best game in the series? Yes. Just yes. Is it my favourite Mario singleplayer game? Heck yeah. Is it my favourite Mario game over all? That’s rough. I love 3D World, love Sunshine and I think it’s rough to rank them properly but I feel like TTYD is just the best overall game. Only problem I have is… I’ve seen the post chapter scenes so often by now… that I just don’t like playing them anymore. They just feel like autoscrollers don’t have collectibles which makes sense as you couldn’t get the things anymore or in peach’s case just before beating the game which could be really frustrating if good badges are hidden there.
But let’s be honest, the new pipes that fix backtracking. Holy it’s incredible. As well as Vivian officially being a biological boy now, it’s just incredible.
Ttyd switch is the OP unbeatable tutorial boss. Literally😂
My list (not including ttyd remake):
#6: sticker star
#5: color splash
#4: origami king
#3: the thousand year door
#2: super paper Mario
#1: paper Mario 64
Hot take, but aside from the 2 TTYD games being in the opposite spot, you and I have the exact same list! You’re not as alone in your opinions as you thought 😉
It's funny, because I'm and "old head" with Mario RPGs and Super Paper Mario made me so sad playing it the first time.
I get what they were going for, and why they did it, but I hated it for being so different from what I loved with the first two.
It's definitely not as bad as my initial feelings, but I will never like it as much as the first two.
Honestly my ranking of the games I have played since I haven’t played color splash or sticker star is very similar. 4. Is super. 3. Is origami is I do love the battle system, but thought the partners is really lacking. I might attack and if I attack I might do damage. But both is random. 2. Is 64. 1. By slight margin is ttyd
I'd say you should definitely try out the romhack Paper Mario TTYD 64~!
It adds the battle system of TTYD into PM64 and adds so many other QoL changes that I'd say it fills the hole of a Paper Mario 64 remake and genuinely elevates it to another level. Granted, it does have a few bugs, but the amount of options that you're given more than makes up for it.
As a fan of PM64, I don't see the appeal. If one wants to play TTYD, one would just play TTYD.
SPM in 5th? Yeah you were right in saying we'd murder you for that.
Nah I'm JK. Its entirely your opinion. I have alot of Nostalgia and love for SPM, but if it's #5 for you then so Be it.
I'm very nostalgic for it too! I just notice it's flaws more and more these days.
@@JoProGaming Yeah, I have noticed some too as I do have a copy (And have played) the Remake of TTYD. and it is amazing. really shows me SPM in a more objective way. And It did not age well.
I get they were trying something different (Which was fair because it was planed for the gamecube just like TTYD) but it just isn't all that great looking back.
But its better than STUPID STICKERS at least
1. TTYD Remake
2. 64
3. TTYD
4. Origami
5. Color
6. Super
7. Sticker
I know I’m crazy. But Super just isn’t for me. I enjoy the environments and scenarios in Color much more.
Super killed the Paper Mario Franchise for me. The character designs felt completely off, the 2d areas were just...boring...the new battle system was...meh. Origami King definitely won me over, but 64 and TTYD will always be true "paper mario" to me
Since when does Kammy Koopa has a TH-cam Channel? /j
KamPro, the biggest Sticker Star defender
The garbage Ring battle System is actually what made me stop playing TOK at around the desert area because i could not stand it. It is also so far the only Paper Mario game i did not finish because i hat the Ring battle System that much
IMO:
1. TTYD (Remake, I never played the original)
2. Origami King
3. 64 (I played it on NS online)
4. Super
5. Color Splash
6. Sticker Star
Where did you get all those cool Paper Mario items in the background?
For me I think color splash is worse than sticker star. It’s the only Mario game I just stopped playing and never picked up again due to boredom. It doubles down on the failed experiment sticker star was, and makes issues the prior game had even worse. Replica stickers are stupid because it forces you to replay levels to get things stickers you already got. The card menu is worse overall and much slower. And painting cards is pointless when you go to the first roshambo house and grind out infinite money. That and the koopalings as bosses were neat on paper but by then were so overused by Nintendo they felt like a waste of creative space, at least a goomba king or a dancing glooper blooper felt more creative than the same guys with the same themes as usual. But both games are probably some of the worst Nintendo games I’ve ever played. Funny writing can’t fix an awful gameplay experience
let’s see who complains about sticker star and color splash placements this time
Thank goodness I'm not the only one that doesn't like Super Paper Mario. Like you, I use to think that was the best Paper Mario game. Mainly because it was my introduction to the Paper Mario franchise and I thought everything about the game was amazing. But after playing the previous 2 Paper Mario games that I missed out on and even playing the modern Paper Mario games, I started to like Super alot lesser than I ever did. Now I agree the story is the best thing about the game and it holds up tremendously well. The music is great & the characters are wonderful. But when it comes to the chapters, levels & other parts of the gameplay, they haven't age well at all. Also I prefer Paper Mario staying on an Turned-based RPG style rather than being an Action RPG cause it doesn't match up well for the series. The scary part is that there's still some people out there that fanboyish over this game and they don't understand why some of us didn't like it & calling us the TTYD fanboys even when they never played it or was late to the party. I know it's all different taste of an opinion. But that subjective just rubs me the wrong way. I wanted to love Super like I use too. But I can't. I like 64, TTYD and even Origami King more than Super.
Let me guess the ranking. It's probably the same as mine and the general consensus:
1. TTYD remake
2. TTYD
3. Original
4. Super
5. Origami
6. CS
7. SS
@porky1118 that's pretty far off haha. I'm very contrary to the general consensus
@@JoProGaming At least I had the worst two right ;)
I will never hate your hate for Sticker Star. I played it 8 or 9 years ago and quit after the desert level. Hated having to guess what I needed by the time I got to the forest area. Plus I grew up with PM 64 and TTYD so it didn't feel right, despite me trying hard to look for old PM elements.
1. TTYD
2. TTYD Remake
3. 64
4. Origami
5. Color Splash
6. Super
7. Sticker
putting super there is a war crime
SPM is a genuine chore to play for so much of the game, especially in chapters 4, 5, 6, and the greater parts of 2 and of 7. The story is great but it fails at being *fun*, which is the most important thing for a game. I'd even think about putting it below Color Splash, though I could it, SPM, and TOK in any order, all above SS and below 64/TTYD.
Otherwise, I think PM64 is, on balance, superior to TTYD. The latter game fleshes out its partners more and has a much more developed story, but 64 has much better level design and (subjective for both of these) a better artstyle (the watercolor and Yoshi's Island influence) and soundtrack. And while TTYD has a more polished battle system, superguards are too powerful and the audience/stage effects can get annoying.