@@SleepingLittleHedgehogThere are jesus in every Hoyo games, seems like we are on a trend (Elysia, Focalors, and now Sunday, Idk about GGZ). ZZZ JESUS WHEN?😭
People need to realize the strike is about keeping the rights TO YOUR OWN VOICE, these VA's made THEIR voice their livelihood and copyright. Companies using AI for it is just taking away their livelihoods and directly impacting the voice actors, as why hire the person if you can just have it be done for way cheaper by an AI. And allowing this could also directly put the VA's at risk cause, if companies have access to stuff that sounds sometimes exactly like YOUR voice, whats stopping anyone from taking that and having it say horrendous stuff or stuff against your beliefs?
Oh yeah, good point. I totally forgot that if popular VAs voices would be accessible through AI it could be used for various bad things. I can bet there's many shady people who would eagerly use them to for example scam people. When you think about it this way then VAs also fight for their own legal security. Nobody wants to have law problems because someone used their voice of even face for scam by using AI.
We've already had such sn incident with the va of fubuki from persona 5 and not only was the incident horrible the individuals involved campaigned hate against her with ai and harrassment till she ended up droppin off offline. Thats also nit includin the va for alastor, the va michael kovac from murder drones havin a similar situation and the harmful party in question is makin profit off of the ai voices and even bragged about gettin a yt silverplate online. The theoretical has become a realty and all vas are in danger.
This is all good, but how does the strike help solve the problem? The only result of this strike is the lack of dialogue in games, which ruins the atmosphere. And don't such actions motivate companies to use AI even more? Why do they need ordinary people who can refuse to voice for any reason, if there is AI? Replacing the voices of ordinary people with the voice of an AI is terrible, I do not argue, but how does refusing to voice help solve this problem? Artists did not refuse to draw when the first AI appeared that could draw
@@НикитаЧуприн-л5б VAs just want to have rights to decide how and who use their voices after AI learn them. Also they want to make sure that one day they won't be kicked out in favor of AI. Also yeah, even "trained" AI dosen't guarantee quality of voice overs. Not to mention that AI generated voices may make characters lack personality because AI probably can show such things properly.
I remember an artist once said in Instagram *"I want AI to do my laundry and dishes so I can focus on drawing.... Not for an AI to do my work while I do my laundry and dishes"*
I can not imagine anybody else for Sunday's voice. His character and story fit so well, done justice by the voice. I still think about those lines where he confronted Gallagher about Robin and the whole 2.2 quest.
@Aliveee24 Argenti doesn't feel the same anymore, the knight-like beautiful voice from before was way better for him. No shade to the current VA but it just doesn't fit him, and the voicelines feel rushed at times.
He is good, but the VA is a horrible person. I've heard someone do an impersonation of the VA and it sounded great. We could definitely get an equally good VA if he was replaced
I really hope those va companies sign the no-AI use agreement already so the strike can stop, because i feel bad that some lesser informed people are blaming the strikers who are just trying to keep their job Good video on explaining the strike (th-cam.com/video/-6Sjd7JbIs8/w-d-xo.htmlsi=22XCWCdO3TSXh1ga)
@gemgem-hl7ii thats how strikes work. If most of your workforce stops working you cant replace or fire them ALL as it will take a toll on your business so you are forced to negotiate.
Do you know how a japanese anime studio has experimented using AI voices to turn japanese seiyuu voice into English , so they don't have to hire English voice actors anymore ? Game industry will probably do that soon too . Chinese company will probably look into that too .
It's really funny, for context, HSR VA'ing companies are not being struck, currently, it's only Genshin EN VA Company "Formosa", the Voice Actors who refuse to participate in HSR are doing a virtue-based unofficial strike, plus add to the fact that despite the strike supposedly being in affect for many giant companies, Genshin and only recently, League of Legands are the only big profile games with the active strike, despite neither game company who makes the games being involved and suffering as a result. SAG AFTRA hates real strikes, and should be doing it for all of the games by EA, Disney, Epic, take 2, and more, But they aren't because SAG AFTRA would get push back by them.
It annoys me that so many people are mad at the English vas of both honkai and genshin for not voicing and being on strike, as if wanting to be paid properly and treated fairly is somehow a hindrance to you personally. You can go a few events without voice acting guys, the vas can't go living without being paid or having their voices used by ai
Even though I don't agree with how his VA handled things and I'm not a fan of Sunday personally, his VA still did an amazing job. Hope the strike is solved soon 😢
@@CurvyLicous seems a bit of a non sequitur to ask that question. i may not speak for everyone either, but i don't think many people who dislike sunday must also favor aventurine. it'd be a mere coincidence if they do, so it's a weird assumption to lump aventurine fans as sunday "haters".
(NOT defending sunday's va or anything) but i need some of the commenters to understand that the english vas are on strike because their jobs are LITERALLY at risk. ai is terrifying. (they dont have the same protections as the CN, JP, or KR voice actors, so yes, they have to fight to make sure their voices aren't STOLEN.) your fave voice actor could get replaced and lose their income because without their consent and without compensation, their voice was used to train an ai model. edit: no michael from arkansas, it's not because of activist translators. most art is inherently political and all the media you consume will have a form of "activism" in it. you just can't read and whatever job you have too, your company will try to find a way to make it ai. ☝️😭 the company behind the hsr voices unironically has had some issues in the past because i'm not sure what goes on internally but it's also common for the ENG social media pages of hsr to not show the voice actor until release.
Jp and kr va are more protected from ai (there are legislation agaisnt ai voice cloning) Europe also has some (ai cloning Is used often in phone fraud here) America has none, and It elections period, so things are a mess
@@Zankyo137 oh! thank you for telling me!! it's very disheartening to see people say the strike is annoying because they literally DON'T have those protections 😭😭
There's an article release yesterday on CBR , about japanese anime studio using AI to turn their seiyuu's voice into English , so they don't have to hire English voice actor anymore . It's still in experimental stage , but soon game industry will probably start looking into that too .
you know AI Voice/translation wouldn't be born if only those EN, VA and translator would just translate product the way it should be translated the right way correctly, instead of INSERTING their own POLITICAL AGENDA and making their own correction, now that this activist got exposed they now whine about because the company is making an alternative solution so that their product can be convey their message the RIGHT WAY,
And honestly JP and KR have very distinct voices CN also have quite a few EN have very little, and most of them sound no different to one another Unless their voices are very unique especially their acting patterns Eg. Accelerator from Certain Index anime Both EN and JP have very well done and unique VA
@@renfukuyama5385 this already happened with Argenti And now the archon quest in Genshin is giving me flashbacks because 2 of the key characters are completely silent due to the strike The strike seems to have started in July or even earlier, so it might take a good while
...Or maybe he was...Bcs IIRC, Argenti VA also didn't find out that they've replaced him until at least very shortly before the actual announcement. Before that, he did say he didn't know what happened to Argenti and why he wasn't called to repraise the role either...
@@Wksjjskskdj He was replaced without that much prior notice as he said he also didn't know before why Argenti went mute after 2.2 and why the studio didn't call for him to come back and reprise the role despite him being good and well until at least shortly before the replacement was officially announced, so I'm just pointing out that just bcs the VA posted about the drip marketing, his replacement is still just as possible bcs the studio responsible for HSR does have history of being very late at notifying their VA's of their dismissal... Just my speculation tho. Might just me overthinking as well...
I feel like Argenti va was all because of disagreements hoyo has with the agency his va is in. The same thing happened with HuoHuo/Tail and they both got released in the same patch so.
@Rickyrickygrey-spot not sure if it was before the strike but could be a possibility regarding the strike and also if their status is union or not. Sunday's VA is a union VA, same with Tingyun's so I'm pretty sure Hoyoverse is playing it safe for the time being by not listing their VAs in promotional marketing until the strike is resolved.
@@xLuis89x he victim blamed Chris Niosi's victims. Stupid thing to do but I don't think hoyo will replace him for that (he did lose several other VA gigs for it tho)
People commenting about no drama world record and stuff but you guys make "drama" out of anything???? There's no drama happening surrounding this, people are just wondering why and not saying much beyond possible reasons.
You know it really frustrates me that this SAG AFTRA Strike Is still happening to this day, I was just going through the Archon Quest of 5.1, and after hearing Kachina staying silent, I immediately had to stop, even though I think Griffin did made a bad choice on supporting Chris Niosi, But I still think he could be given himself another chance, it all probably has to do with the strike which I'm so sick and tired of
@@sirinsstarIt was more or less bringing up a past crime that he supposedly did/didn’t apologize for. Still wouldn’t want him to voice act though regardless.
He has written a reddit post stating he's Sunday VA and proceed to defend an abuser, that was very unprofessional. I wouldn't blame hoyo if they wanna cut ties with him.
Bro they didn't even cut ties with the several rapists they casted. Sean chiplock is still diluc and Todd Habberkorn is still Razor. The only abusers that were recasted left of their own free will.
@@coronadispine Probably not but then they changed Oz's CN VA for cheating on his wife (I think with a minor, not sure, but then for grooming too) and maybe someone else, so I don't really understand why not change the ENG VA too..?
@@second_second_ No, the language can be changed. It's just that when I first hear a character's voice, I will consider it as the default. And when I change to another voice, I will find it not as good. For example, Kafka, I see people often praise her English voice as good but I don't think so because I heard the Japanese voice first so I find it better 😅
@@Sisselynn I think you missed his point. Bronya’s VA used a stage name but her name was still plastered on the character’s drip marketing and trailers because it let her build up a resume and get a name for herself while still being anonymous. It is 100% because of the strike, not listing your name is like losing free advertising so I really don’t see that as a reason.
@AnonymousMuscat663 its not necessarily "100% because of the strike." HSR's studio isnt being hit by the strike. They've recently replaced Huohuo/Tail and Argenti with little to no warning to the VAs. Its possible that Hoyo is in the process of replacing Sunday and his VA just hasnt been informed yet. Ultimately, we won't know until Sunday is released.
I know it’s inconvenient the voice actors are going on strike People do have to understand that their livelihoods are being threatened. Voice actors don’t get the same protection rights as what we consider regular actors, especially under the risk of AI and without any protection from AI, taking their voices out of context people don’t realize how dangerous this can be, because if someone really hates you enough, and they take your voice, and they modify it to say horrible things it can ruin your career. Not to mention, they could literally also lose their jobs just because companies realize they “can replace” them with AI. People getting mad at the voice actors kind of just feels like a kid getting mad at the lunch lady because their school lunch isn’t up to the standard of home meals😭
He is likely not being replaced, he made no drama, there is just a big strike in the VA industry because some VA studios might end by stealing voices, and this is something out of Hoyoverse's power because they don't have their own EN VA studio, so have to rely on external studios, and sadly the external studio turns out to be potentially alright with AI voice stealing thing, the VA probably requested Hoyo to remove his name mentions in a way to try to protect him (as on the discord they mentionned him and thry delected the mention, and the VA promoted Sunday's marketing on his IG
@@Orez-Suke He defended quite intensely Moze's first VA who's an abuser AND victim blamed the victims (which is quite ironic with him voicing a grooming victim). I think that's something very awful and wrong to do and him having no consecuences feels wrong, so I really hope he gets fired. Sorry for any weird spelling, I used translator for some stuff.
Yanagi en va haven't been announced yet? The jp va for her is robin jp va while the cn va is raiden mei, shogun and acheron va Are soukaku en va is announced?
I’m not really so in depth about the strike but after knowing that Kachina and Kinich have no voicelines and hearing that on the event of Nahida’s birthday only Cyno, Paimon and NPC’s are able to be voiced I really getting concerned and also slightly annoyed. Why can’t Formosa not just agree? It really is just ruining the experience for people who are using the ENG dub. Probably just me but I kinda get unmotivated for the quests if I need to read instead of listen to something every important as a Archon Quest. I could switch to JP but after listening to Genshin in ENG for 3,5 years it will take way to long to get used to JP voice acting for Genshin
@@Zankyo137 really sucks. Then I guess I need to keep up with the news, probably gonna play Nahida’s birthday with JP voices to make it atleast not boring
Because companies only care about money. They are stealing their workers money by using their voice without consent and refusing to pay them for it. In the end it has to happen because once their money is effected, only then would they be forced to care.
I'm surprised Cyno will be voiced at all, knowing that Alejandro openly announced that he's part of the strike and stopped streaming the game altogether
Just this morning I was telling my friends "with everything happening, hope nothing happens to Sunday's voicing. It's unearthly amazing, I can't bear to lose it." Now I'm worried... Can this please turn out rootless.....
Well its really not much of jumping to conclusions when Mihoyo so far, has a good streak going of only replacing the EN VA's or just removing them all together for a lot of stupid reasons. Them letting Twitter and its cesspool of incels and people that dont touch grass, but I think they know the whole entire world will runin this game eventual. Its called the past for a reason and people who keep bringing up VA's of others past that have done their time in any shape or form are stupid. Learn how to move on and not make the same mistake again. Twitter is good at ruining lives from shit that happened decades ago. Especially in the gaming sphere.
In reference to the feixiao incident id say people did jump to conclusions. It even got the cn community involved and it was all because someone saw an edit she liked and got mad, when in reality she was just on strike.
As much as I love Hackney, I don’t think he could pull off Sunday. Their voices are too distinct and different (at least to me). I honestly can’t think of anyone else would could fittingly replace Sunday’s voice without somehow being off.
Story on Instagram aside, Griffin himself also recently updated his Twitter account, putting the splash art of Sunday as banner/background (?) and adding in his bio "Sunday in HonkaiStarRail" Another thing, even in the Fugue/Tingyun's drip there were no VA added at the end of the post this time so yeah, I guess it's because of the strike and nothing else.
Just when I thought things wouldn't happen even if nothing has been said I'm still scared that there's a chance he'll get replaced but hell I hope not cuz I love his voice😭
Hopefully people won't harass Griffin if he is brought back for Sunday, however, after the drama, I wouldn't be surprised if Sunday is recast because of the fandom
@@KujouSara12 Hoyoverse isn't idiotic enough to bring back VAs when it comes to drama specifically at one VA. But the issue involved VAs who were merely defending their fellow VA. Like I said, if Griffin comes back, he shouldn't continue being harassed. But I also said that I wouldn't be surprised if he didn't come back at all.
@@KuroJOkamiNot sure if implying the victims should get over it (being abused, harassed) was a great idea. Addressing himself as Sunday to the HSR reddit was a even dumber idea on his end imo.
@@KuroJOkami He spoke poorly of the victims of Niosi who had experienced actual crimes happening to them and implied that they were in the wrong for not forgiving him. He spoke down to several people speaking on their experiences. He used his stature as Sunday to promote that his viewpoint was the correct viewpoint and that everyone should agree with him. He was quite offensive. This isn't just about a VA supporting another VA. This is about someone abusing their position of power to erase the past crimes of their peer and gaslight their audience. And it didnt work. He was entirely unprofessional and I cant imagine it was good PR for HSR. He absolutely should be replaced on that basis alone (he lost other jobs over it and he didnt even mention he was voicing them).
Yeah it's still issue plus it has something happen with Kinich's English Voice Actor😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭Because why Hoyo-verse English voice actor got issues from it's video games & very mean. Also i really hate these dramas & issues except Zenless Zone Zero had been into controversies togetherness & please for Kinich & Sunday's En VA plus i'm still overthinking if Sunday's English Va got kicked out & that's what happen now😢😢😢 they should hire another agency for voice casting in U.S.A or U.K cu'z wut the hck, so many issues out there in companies
Considering the history of english VAs for hoyo or other eastern games almost never being quiet when drama starts it's understandable why people make assumptions
_y’all those companies rlly need to sign the “no ai” thing_ _also can we take a moment to appreciate Sunday’s design like damn I want that that man on my team_
Excuse me but could you explain what you think is his "mistake" because if it's defending someone and sharing his opinion and point of view I don't think that it was one
@aoikazuma3781 you know what ? I don't even have time to waste trying to explain you because you'll don't even try to understand. Believe whatever you want, at the end of the day I still believe that Moze old VA shouldn't have give up his place and Sunday's VA has made no mistake for me but whatever happens it doesn't impact me because I play JP
Ok I guess calling it a mistake is kinda downplaying it. But regardless, I hope that he learned his lesson that sticking up for a guy who literally admitted to ab*se was not ok.
@@Blastertronus He admitted for one thing, not the other. Don't just try to brush it off that he admitted to everything, he was simply defending himself like everyone else has the right to.
It could also be lore related, since apparently hes gonna a major lore dumptruck (plus griffith wouldnt have posted about sunday if he wasnt voicing him)
I wasn't a fan of griffin's defense of that creepy crybaby, so if the vc does get replaced, i will spend money to show my support for holding people accountable for their shitty actions. If not, i'll ftp pull because i still think that Sunday is cool. Its not like griffin is evil, just cringe. Seriously, even if you dislike him (like me), its not that deep.
Thank fuck I play most of my games with JP VAs when available, and this is an era with amazing EN dubs (the Persona games, Dragon Ball Dub, etc), but because EN always has propaganda/drama, it's just fucking exhausting at this point. A shame because some VAs who do not want the shit (like Bronya's EN VA) will also be dragged, because of fucking western drama.
if he didn't protect chris noisy maybe there wouldn't be an issue or rumors like this The person who ask for adam (nier automata) en va to voice sunday, excellent argument, approve
Griffin wasn't the only one who tried to protect Chris, Adin Rudd also did but when the backlash started heating up, Adin vanished without a trace. If Sucrose's EN VA wasn't replaced despite showing a foul behavior to protect Huohuo's VA, I doubt Griffin would be replaced
Seriously, this studio should just do what those voice actors ask them to do. Their demands are completly reasonable after all. They just don't want to loose their jobs. Is it soo hard to understand?
Yeah it's so sad that the voice actors even have to strike in the first place. I hope that they can come to an agreement soon and then everything can go on as normal
No because Athenas part made me sob for 8 minutes, and 6 seconds 😭🙏🏻 But yeah after listening to both of these songs for the first time i was full on crying then after i realized we weren't getting anymore new songs a started crying harder my mum though something happened 😭
They edited the discord one though... He is likely getting replaced. Likely. No rumors here, just pure guessing from the clues given. Anyways, all i wish is that sunday be given a good voice regardless of who is behind it
@@Zankyo137 I think for me is totally ok 🤔, like I said, if the voice really brings out a character personality, or giving out a certain vibe that this character was designed to, then I'm fine with that, it's just a game after all, if it still brings you that immersive experience for the story line, I'm totally fine
@@Zankyo137 Then again if the days come where we entirely can rely on AI voice, I think there won't be any fairness that need to be discussed, cuz the gaming industry will totally use the AI rather than a real person, it only leads to a another question or issue depends how you sees it, whether or not players will play the games or not
As someone who plays on Chinese VO, I don’t care about Sunday’s English voice and I do hope he gets replaced, because I wouldn’t like it if a man who dismisses SA voices my favorite character
Honestly I feel it might also be so he can avoid harassment because... seriously... Is anyone surprised? Can the fandom stop harassing the vas for at least two seconds? Thanks
I think the strike is the most likely possibility, quite a few eng vas for genshin are on strike as well bc of some ai bs (I think- I only just heard about it this afternoon)
It's because their recording companies aren't using their voices for ai if I was a va I would strike too plus this acc literally only reports HoYoverse drama🤦♀️
There have been cases of drama on their end. Don't be ignorant. It took them a year to replace CN Oz from that drama. That's why Fischl didn't die up for ages.
The strike is against Formosa, which is the studio that does the English dubbing for GENSHIN. As far as I’m aware, they don’t do the English dubbing for star rail, so star rail actors shouldn’t be affected unless they willingly choose to strike in support, rather than because they actually have ties to Formosa
Well, it is either you get a new eng VA or eng vo will simply not exist for the next few patches because, unless you forgot, most eng VA are STILL ON STRIKE. So choose eng vo or no eng vo.
fr like why doesn't jp or kr side of va business in hsr have like ANY drama? that's amazing every time something bullshit happens with eng VA's again I can just imagine asian fans sighing in disapproval
@@kivvz8453 Wasn't there drama with Oz (Fischl's crow) old CN va? If I'm not wrong he was replaced because of adultery. He cheated 1 month into his marriage and fooled around with fans.
The moral of every situation that turns into drama, don't jump to conclusions. Just wait until you have a confirmation on the information before you make your own conclusions. Yes there are times people's speculations or assumptions turn out to be correct, but there's also many more times when they aren't 🤷 It's okay to speculate in your own head or with a group of friends if you really want to, but maybe just hold off on publicly announcing your assumptions so early on.
I know AI is so advance but i still find AI lack of emotions and feelings. voice actors pour their heart into their work so we can truly feel it. AI can never give the same feelings. More robotic and more emotionless.
We were on a world record of no drama because of Sunday 😭
Yeah he's a "god" now 😭
Bcs hes JESUS
@@SleepingLittleHedgehog As an atheist, I agree
@@Khn_2102 I CAN'T😭😭😭🤚
@@SleepingLittleHedgehogThere are jesus in every Hoyo games, seems like we are on a trend (Elysia, Focalors, and now Sunday, Idk about GGZ). ZZZ JESUS WHEN?😭
I’m glad his VA wasn’t changed bro, that VA was made for Sunday😭
i CANNOT bring myself to imagine any other va, its as u said, that va was made for sunday
The va literally sounds like robbie daymond tho lol
Thanks i thought the same @@5nickerdoodles
“Charmony dove”
man, ive already had enough with huohuo, argenti, plss dont remove Sunday's VA
People need to realize the strike is about keeping the rights TO YOUR OWN VOICE, these VA's made THEIR voice their livelihood and copyright. Companies using AI for it is just taking away their livelihoods and directly impacting the voice actors, as why hire the person if you can just have it be done for way cheaper by an AI.
And allowing this could also directly put the VA's at risk cause, if companies have access to stuff that sounds sometimes exactly like YOUR voice, whats stopping anyone from taking that and having it say horrendous stuff or stuff against your beliefs?
Oh yeah, good point. I totally forgot that if popular VAs voices would be accessible through AI it could be used for various bad things. I can bet there's many shady people who would eagerly use them to for example scam people. When you think about it this way then VAs also fight for their own legal security. Nobody wants to have law problems because someone used their voice of even face for scam by using AI.
We've already had such sn incident with the va of fubuki from persona 5 and not only was the incident horrible the individuals involved campaigned hate against her with ai and harrassment till she ended up droppin off offline. Thats also nit includin the va for alastor, the va michael kovac from murder drones havin a similar situation and the harmful party in question is makin profit off of the ai voices and even bragged about gettin a yt silverplate online. The theoretical has become a realty and all vas are in danger.
This is all good, but how does the strike help solve the problem? The only result of this strike is the lack of dialogue in games, which ruins the atmosphere. And don't such actions motivate companies to use AI even more? Why do they need ordinary people who can refuse to voice for any reason, if there is AI? Replacing the voices of ordinary people with the voice of an AI is terrible, I do not argue, but how does refusing to voice help solve this problem? Artists did not refuse to draw when the first AI appeared that could draw
@@НикитаЧуприн-л5б VAs just want to have rights to decide how and who use their voices after AI learn them. Also they want to make sure that one day they won't be kicked out in favor of AI. Also yeah, even "trained" AI dosen't guarantee quality of voice overs. Not to mention that AI generated voices may make characters lack personality because AI probably can show such things properly.
@@НикитаЧуприн-л5б Well most company would just sign an agreement with the Union, End the strike, and go back to work as normal
I remember an artist once said in Instagram
*"I want AI to do my laundry and dishes so I can focus on drawing.... Not for an AI to do my work while I do my laundry and dishes"*
facts
wow truest comment I have seen today
this is so real
that's a good example actually
Based comment 👍✨
Remember yall, they're on strike. Our boys beautiful voice ain't leaving us 🫡
@@SmithyPLKeep this energy when AI takes your job 😹
Says the bum with a life that'll amount to nothing and never leave a mark on the world? @carpet498 😂
@@carpet498weirdo
@@carpet498??? Alright.
@@carpet498 ngl that ain’t possible but 😭😭 love the confidence i guess
I can not imagine anybody else for Sunday's voice. His character and story fit so well, done justice by the voice. I still think about those lines where he confronted Gallagher about Robin and the whole 2.2 quest.
"You dеvil... yоu wrеtchеd dеspiсable dog... why did you kiII her"
@@pngirl2556 THIS ONE EXACTLY, I CAN LITERALLY HEAR HIS VOICE OMG
yes, sunday va is for Sunday, same like argenti, huohuo
damn i miss them, old va 😭
@Aliveee24 Argenti doesn't feel the same anymore, the knight-like beautiful voice from before was way better for him. No shade to the current VA but it just doesn't fit him, and the voicelines feel rushed at times.
He is good, but the VA is a horrible person. I've heard someone do an impersonation of the VA and it sounded great. We could definitely get an equally good VA if he was replaced
I really hope those va companies sign the no-AI use agreement already so the strike can stop, because i feel bad that some lesser informed people are blaming the strikers who are just trying to keep their job
Good video on explaining the strike
(th-cam.com/video/-6Sjd7JbIs8/w-d-xo.htmlsi=22XCWCdO3TSXh1ga)
Trying to keep their job by refusing to do their job... Hmm... 🤔
@gemgem-hl7ii thats how strikes work. If most of your workforce stops working you cant replace or fire them ALL as it will take a toll on your business so you are forced to negotiate.
@@gemgem-hl7iitrying to keep their jobs by making sure that the companies won't be stealing their voice
Do you know how a japanese anime studio has experimented using AI voices to turn japanese seiyuu voice into English , so they don't have to hire English voice actors anymore ?
Game industry will probably do that soon too .
Chinese company will probably look into that too .
It's really funny, for context, HSR VA'ing companies are not being struck, currently, it's only Genshin EN VA Company "Formosa", the Voice Actors who refuse to participate in HSR are doing a virtue-based unofficial strike, plus add to the fact that despite the strike supposedly being in affect for many giant companies, Genshin and only recently, League of Legands are the only big profile games with the active strike, despite neither game company who makes the games being involved and suffering as a result. SAG AFTRA hates real strikes, and should be doing it for all of the games by EA, Disney, Epic, take 2, and more, But they aren't because SAG AFTRA would get push back by them.
It annoys me that so many people are mad at the English vas of both honkai and genshin for not voicing and being on strike, as if wanting to be paid properly and treated fairly is somehow a hindrance to you personally. You can go a few events without voice acting guys, the vas can't go living without being paid or having their voices used by ai
Even though I don't agree with how his VA handled things and I'm not a fan of Sunday personally, his VA still did an amazing job. Hope the strike is solved soon 😢
Do you like aventurine?
@@CurvyLicous yes and his VA is a total sweetheart
@satyre_1 well to each their own I asked bc most people who don't like Sunday turn around and like Aventurine
@@CurvyLicous seems a bit of a non sequitur to ask that question. i may not speak for everyone either, but i don't think many people who dislike sunday must also favor aventurine. it'd be a mere coincidence if they do, so it's a weird assumption to lump aventurine fans as sunday "haters".
@@satyre_1 yeah that's why I asked out of curiosity to add to my personal memory bank instead of assuming
(NOT defending sunday's va or anything) but i need some of the commenters to understand that the english vas are on strike because their jobs are LITERALLY at risk. ai is terrifying. (they dont have the same protections as the CN, JP, or KR voice actors, so yes, they have to fight to make sure their voices aren't STOLEN.) your fave voice actor could get replaced and lose their income because without their consent and without compensation, their voice was used to train an ai model.
edit: no michael from arkansas, it's not because of activist translators. most art is inherently political and all the media you consume will have a form of "activism" in it. you just can't read and whatever job you have too, your company will try to find a way to make it ai. ☝️😭
the company behind the hsr voices unironically has had some issues in the past because i'm not sure what goes on internally but it's also common for the ENG social media pages of hsr to not show the voice actor until release.
Jp and kr va are more protected from ai (there are legislation agaisnt ai voice cloning)
Europe also has some (ai cloning Is used often in phone fraud here)
America has none, and It elections period, so things are a mess
@@Zankyo137 oh! thank you for telling me!! it's very disheartening to see people say the strike is annoying because they literally DON'T have those protections 😭😭
There's an article release yesterday on CBR , about japanese anime studio using AI to turn their seiyuu's voice into English , so they don't have to hire English voice actor anymore .
It's still in experimental stage , but soon game industry will probably start looking into that too .
you know AI Voice/translation wouldn't be born if only those EN, VA and translator would just translate product the way it should be translated the right way correctly, instead of INSERTING their own POLITICAL AGENDA and making their own correction, now that this activist got exposed they now whine about because the company is making an alternative solution so that their product can be convey their message the RIGHT WAY,
And honestly JP and KR have very distinct voices
CN also have quite a few
EN have very little, and most of them sound no different to one another
Unless their voices are very unique especially their acting patterns
Eg. Accelerator from Certain Index anime
Both EN and JP have very well done and unique VA
The Reddit account posted "TBA" under Sunday's eng VA, at least last time I checked, so I guess we should wait for the official announcement
As long as the EN VA's Strike is happening. Please expect this kind of situation already.
I just wonder how long this going, it'll be so awkward to have some EN voice suddenly got silent xD
@renfukuyama5385 itll go until va companies sign against the use of ai voices
@@renfukuyama5385 Atp the VA agency would likely recast them.
@@renfukuyama5385 this already happened with Argenti
And now the archon quest in Genshin is giving me flashbacks because 2 of the key characters are completely silent due to the strike
The strike seems to have started in July or even earlier, so it might take a good while
...Or maybe he was...Bcs IIRC, Argenti VA also didn't find out that they've replaced him until at least very shortly before the actual announcement. Before that, he did say he didn't know what happened to Argenti and why he wasn't called to repraise the role either...
WAIT WHAT.. WHAT HAPPENED TO ARGENTI 'S VA????????
@@Wksjjskskdj He was replaced without that much prior notice as he said he also didn't know before why Argenti went mute after 2.2 and why the studio didn't call for him to come back and reprise the role despite him being good and well until at least shortly before the replacement was officially announced, so I'm just pointing out that just bcs the VA posted about the drip marketing, his replacement is still just as possible bcs the studio responsible for HSR does have history of being very late at notifying their VA's of their dismissal...
Just my speculation tho. Might just me overthinking as well...
@@J-D-S that's actually so sad omg. I loved his va sm
I feel like Argenti va was all because of disagreements hoyo has with the agency his va is in. The same thing happened with HuoHuo/Tail and they both got released in the same patch so.
Im terrified. First my favorite character Argenti and now Sunday (second favorite) if they replace his voice I am going to sob
After they replaced Huohuos VA i got so sad :(
Oh thank GOD his va wasn't changed, Griffin's voice is perfect for Sunday
it's the VA's right to own their voice. no company should be stopping them from doing that
Twitter still hasn't realized HSR EN Twitter doesn't like giving credits to EN voices until they're released playable in game.
on Rappa's drip marketing has the ENG Voice actor listed
I dont think its the strike problem, HSR's eng dub has been having some very weird problems since this year's start aka before the strike
@Rickyrickygrey-spot not sure if it was before the strike but could be a possibility regarding the strike and also if their status is union or not. Sunday's VA is a union VA, same with Tingyun's so I'm pretty sure Hoyoverse is playing it safe for the time being by not listing their VAs in promotional marketing until the strike is resolved.
@@kathleenohara5045 ooohh ok
It's either the strike or the Moze drama really damaged him
WE WERE SO DAMN CLOSE TO HAVING NO DRAMA WITH SUNDAYS RELEASE... BUT NOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Oh I knew it was coming because Twitter would never forget how Sunday's VA had a wrong opinion and will never forgive him for it.
@@jakeirakoI'm gonna research about his "wrong opinion" a bit, since Twitter loses its shit over everything
@@xLuis89x It was the Chris Nioski (Moze OG VA) incident
@@xLuis89x he victim blamed Chris Niosi's victims. Stupid thing to do but I don't think hoyo will replace him for that (he did lose several other VA gigs for it tho)
@@jakeirako I mean, it's not really a wrong opinion to vicitm blame. It's just being a dick.
People commenting about no drama world record and stuff but you guys make "drama" out of anything???? There's no drama happening surrounding this, people are just wondering why and not saying much beyond possible reasons.
people like to make drama now honestly
Hoping the strike is concluded before Sunday trailers drop when the time comes. I want my English content back T-T
dear god i hope he doesn’t get replaced 😭 his voice is so pretty and i can’t imagine anyone else voicing sunday
You know it really frustrates me that this SAG AFTRA Strike Is still happening to this day, I was just going through the Archon Quest of 5.1, and after hearing Kachina staying silent, I immediately had to stop, even though I think Griffin did made a bad choice on supporting Chris Niosi, But I still think he could be given himself another chance, it all probably has to do with the strike which I'm so sick and tired of
SO REAL... honestly hoyo dramas are kinda a pain
and 5.2 has no archon story ,i bet hoyo delay the story because of this shit ,been happening since JULY .
@@nyxzenthefoxmutantyou do have to remember the moze va “drama” wasnt even drama it was quite literally a crime
@@sirinsstarIt was more or less bringing up a past crime that he supposedly did/didn’t apologize for.
Still wouldn’t want him to voice act though regardless.
Well the reason the strike continues is simply because the cpmpanies affected refuse go cooperate..@@hazard1one
If this means his voice actor got replaced I just hope they find someone who can fit the role
I really really really hope Sunday VA won't be replaced coz he did such an amazing job
Fugue Tingyun's Eng VA was also not listed in her drip marketing so it's definitely not about the past issues and more about the VA strike
Please, no more drama. We just wanna enjoy the game like Japan and China.
If anyone wants to know, this background song is called Halfway House, it’s a Penacony theme in HSR and one of my top 5 favorites. Sunday is COMIN
He has written a reddit post stating he's Sunday VA and proceed to defend an abuser, that was very unprofessional. I wouldn't blame hoyo if they wanna cut ties with him.
Bro they didn't even cut ties with the several rapists they casted. Sean chiplock is still diluc and Todd Habberkorn is still Razor. The only abusers that were recasted left of their own free will.
@@gamechimp869svarog’s va as well and his history is at least a decade long if not more. do background checks even exist?
@@coronadispine Probably not but then they changed Oz's CN VA for cheating on his wife (I think with a minor, not sure, but then for grooming too) and maybe someone else, so I don't really understand why not change the ENG VA too..?
@@Amalthea-ig9fyI guess because Hoyo doesn't hire en vas themselves but working through agency so...
@@nnekoniceyeah they had to do a whole investigation with Tighnari’s old VA when he was being weird with minors on discord
The best part of using Jp dub is not experiencing voice actors getting replaced all the time.
I never thought choosing Japanese voice when starting the game would be such a wise decision
hi, i'm not a HSR player. so i have a question. can't people just change the language that they want to listen to anytime, when they play the game?
@@second_second_ No, the language can be changed. It's just that when I first hear a character's voice, I will consider it as the default. And when I change to another voice, I will find it not as good. For example, Kafka, I see people often praise her English voice as good but I don't think so because I heard the Japanese voice first so I find it better 😅
I’m more disappointed that Hoyo didn’t take the opportunity to drip-market Sunday on a Sunday 😂
Maybe he doesn’t want to be put into promotional material. People need to stop immediately jumping that something happened to the VA and just wait
Why would he not like free advertising though? Did a single VA did not want that ever?
@@IgnasV Bronya's English VA literally used the "stage name" to hide her real personality
@@Sisselynn I think you missed his point. Bronya’s VA used a stage name but her name was still plastered on the character’s drip marketing and trailers because it let her build up a resume and get a name for herself while still being anonymous. It is 100% because of the strike, not listing your name is like losing free advertising so I really don’t see that as a reason.
@AnonymousMuscat663 its not necessarily "100% because of the strike." HSR's studio isnt being hit by the strike. They've recently replaced Huohuo/Tail and Argenti with little to no warning to the VAs. Its possible that Hoyo is in the process of replacing Sunday and his VA just hasnt been informed yet. Ultimately, we won't know until Sunday is released.
I WILL CRY if his VA changed
@bonbeelu I cry every time I use my Huohuo :( I don't hate the new voice but I loved the original one
@@BuddieSnuggie that’s how I feel about my Argenti
This isn't the first time something like this happened, look at the Feixiao VA drama.
She was on strike, people jumped the gun and assumed she was fired over something small.
it wasnt a drama, is allbc of the VA strikes. if something else happened we will find out really soon when they drop the 2.7 program
I know it’s inconvenient the voice actors are going on strike
People do have to understand that their livelihoods are being threatened. Voice actors don’t get the same protection rights as what we consider regular actors, especially under the risk of AI and without any protection from AI, taking their voices out of context people don’t realize how dangerous this can be, because if someone really hates you enough, and they take your voice, and they modify it to say horrible things it can ruin your career.
Not to mention, they could literally also lose their jobs just because companies realize they “can replace” them with AI.
People getting mad at the voice actors kind of just feels like a kid getting mad at the lunch lady because their school lunch isn’t up to the standard of home meals😭
Sunday's return is great news, but it seems like they still haven't found a new VA for him. that drama really so bad 😭
Why should they?
He is likely not being replaced, he made no drama, there is just a big strike in the VA industry because some VA studios might end by stealing voices, and this is something out of Hoyoverse's power because they don't have their own EN VA studio, so have to rely on external studios, and sadly the external studio turns out to be potentially alright with AI voice stealing thing, the VA probably requested Hoyo to remove his name mentions in a way to try to protect him (as on the discord they mentionned him and thry delected the mention, and the VA promoted Sunday's marketing on his IG
He’s not being replaced. The company breaching the contract gives grounds for a lawsuit
@@Orez-Suke He defended quite intensely Moze's first VA who's an abuser AND victim blamed the victims (which is quite ironic with him voicing a grooming victim). I think that's something very awful and wrong to do and him having no consecuences feels wrong, so I really hope he gets fired.
Sorry for any weird spelling, I used translator for some stuff.
@@Amalthea-ig9fy jeez, never heard about that, pretty disappointing it happened
I think it could be they’re currently on strike, like how ZZZ hasn’t announced Yanagi’s voice yet.
Yanagi en va haven't been announced yet?
The jp va for her is robin jp va while the cn va is raiden mei, shogun and acheron va
Are soukaku en va is announced?
It never announced Aleks as Lighter either. He indirectly announced it w the photo lol
I’m assuming it is because of the voice actor strike. Can’t work till some deals are signed so that probably affects the announcement as well.
Id rather him staying as sunday, i dont see anyone else who has a voice that fits sunday more
I’m not really so in depth about the strike but after knowing that Kachina and Kinich have no voicelines and hearing that on the event of Nahida’s birthday only Cyno, Paimon and NPC’s are able to be voiced I really getting concerned and also slightly annoyed. Why can’t Formosa not just agree? It really is just ruining the experience for people who are using the ENG dub. Probably just me but I kinda get unmotivated for the quests if I need to read instead of listen to something every important as a Archon Quest. I could switch to JP but after listening to Genshin in ENG for 3,5 years it will take way to long to get used to JP voice acting for Genshin
From experience i Say that nothing in america Is going anywhere during elections
@@Zankyo137 really sucks. Then I guess I need to keep up with the news, probably gonna play Nahida’s birthday with JP voices to make it atleast not boring
Because companies only care about money. They are stealing their workers money by using their voice without consent and refusing to pay them for it. In the end it has to happen because once their money is effected, only then would they be forced to care.
I'm surprised Cyno will be voiced at all, knowing that Alejandro openly announced that he's part of the strike and stopped streaming the game altogether
@@DeadVoxel huh? I saw a post that he is fine to voice in Genshin, HSR and ZZZ again. Cuz his voice was in the data actually as well with leakers
Well mostly to avoid potential drama, I think that's why they made the VA's names not listed on the teasers
He maybe found out about the drama with the VA, and requested to remove his name, like bronya VA does
When a friend sends you this video and you see YOUR TWEET FATURED IN THE VIDEO. This is insane and made my day, thank you for including me! ❤
IF HES RECAST BY GOODNESS I HOPE ITS ROBBIE DAYMOND
Yeah me too
Just this morning I was telling my friends "with everything happening, hope nothing happens to Sunday's voicing. It's unearthly amazing, I can't bear to lose it." Now I'm worried... Can this please turn out rootless.....
To anyone seeing this.
5.1 Genshin is also missing several VAs (ENG)
So there is a chance it's because of that.
Possibilities are
1. Reprocussions from that Reddit post (not as likely)
2. Strike (likely)
3. Agency (likely)
But HSR's studio isn't being affected by the strike. We'll have to wait and see if they post an official reason, although i suspect they won't.
please we learned our lesson after feixiao’s VA, do.not.jump.to.conclusions.
Well its really not much of jumping to conclusions when Mihoyo so far, has a good streak going of only replacing the EN VA's or just removing them all together for a lot of stupid reasons.
Them letting Twitter and its cesspool of incels and people that dont touch grass, but I think they know the whole entire world will runin this game eventual. Its called the past for a reason and people who keep bringing up VA's of others past that have done their time in any shape or form are stupid. Learn how to move on and not make the same mistake again. Twitter is good at ruining lives from shit that happened decades ago. Especially in the gaming sphere.
In reference to the feixiao incident id say people did jump to conclusions. It even got the cn community involved and it was all because someone saw an edit she liked and got mad, when in reality she was just on strike.
Literally came back to hsr because of Sunday's VA please let the the strike be the reason 😭😭😭
If we're replacing his VA
I vote for chris hackney
Sunday is basically Ayato anyway
Ngl would be the closest replacement. They sound similar enough and kinda have similar vibes
Eww no ayato isn't comparable to Sunday blank ahh character
As much as I love Hackney, I don’t think he could pull off Sunday. Their voices are too distinct and different (at least to me). I honestly can’t think of anyone else would could fittingly replace Sunday’s voice without somehow being off.
So a not even a npc level character? I have not played any of the new hsr but even I know that this Sunday guy is more of a character then Ayato.
ewww yuck keep away sunday from the siscon yandere from wish with bad story no lore shit game
I love his work as Sunday. It really does add to his character for me and I hope he doesn’t get replaced
Story on Instagram aside, Griffin himself also recently updated his Twitter account, putting the splash art of Sunday as banner/background (?) and adding in his bio "Sunday in HonkaiStarRail"
Another thing, even in the Fugue/Tingyun's drip there were no VA added at the end of the post this time so yeah, I guess it's because of the strike and nothing else.
Just when I thought things wouldn't happen even if nothing has been said I'm still scared that there's a chance he'll get replaced but hell I hope not cuz I love his voice😭
Hopefully people won't harass Griffin if he is brought back for Sunday, however, after the drama, I wouldn't be surprised if Sunday is recast because of the fandom
Hoyo isn't a company (excuse my choice of words) dumb enough to do that
@@KujouSara12 Hoyoverse isn't idiotic enough to bring back VAs when it comes to drama specifically at one VA. But the issue involved VAs who were merely defending their fellow VA. Like I said, if Griffin comes back, he shouldn't continue being harassed. But I also said that I wouldn't be surprised if he didn't come back at all.
@@KuroJOkamiNot sure if implying the victims should get over it (being abused, harassed) was a great idea. Addressing himself as Sunday to the HSR reddit was a even dumber idea on his end imo.
@@KuroJOkami It's merely more than just "defending their fellow va", it's invalidating the victims of Moze's VA, talking down on them and simply cold.
@@KuroJOkami He spoke poorly of the victims of Niosi who had experienced actual crimes happening to them and implied that they were in the wrong for not forgiving him. He spoke down to several people speaking on their experiences. He used his stature as Sunday to promote that his viewpoint was the correct viewpoint and that everyone should agree with him. He was quite offensive. This isn't just about a VA supporting another VA. This is about someone abusing their position of power to erase the past crimes of their peer and gaslight their audience. And it didnt work. He was entirely unprofessional and I cant imagine it was good PR for HSR. He absolutely should be replaced on that basis alone (he lost other jobs over it and he didnt even mention he was voicing them).
I must say, I love your shorts.
Yeah it's still issue plus it has something happen with Kinich's English Voice Actor😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭Because why Hoyo-verse English voice actor got issues from it's video games & very mean. Also i really hate these dramas & issues except Zenless Zone Zero had been into controversies togetherness & please for Kinich & Sunday's En VA plus i'm still overthinking if Sunday's English Va got kicked out & that's what happen now😢😢😢 they should hire another agency for voice casting in U.S.A or U.K cu'z wut the hck, so many issues out there in companies
What happened with Kinich?
@@amandaslough125 strike related afaik. He's not voiced in the new archon quest in the english dub
Considering the history of english VAs for hoyo or other eastern games almost never being quiet when drama starts it's understandable why people make assumptions
Now I just hope that Hoyo will soon find someone suitable for Sunday, there have been too many bad things happening this year..
_y’all those companies rlly need to sign the “no ai” thing_
_also can we take a moment to appreciate Sunday’s design like damn I want that that man on my team_
Regardless, I just hope that Griffin learned for his mistake.
Excuse me but could you explain what you think is his "mistake" because if it's defending someone and sharing his opinion and point of view I don't think that it was one
@@KujouSara12 i defended a person who self admitted of doing something atrocious, yeah speaks volume.
@aoikazuma3781 you know what ? I don't even have time to waste trying to explain you because you'll don't even try to understand. Believe whatever you want, at the end of the day I still believe that Moze old VA shouldn't have give up his place and Sunday's VA has made no mistake for me but whatever happens it doesn't impact me because I play JP
Ok I guess calling it a mistake is kinda downplaying it. But regardless, I hope that he learned his lesson that sticking up for a guy who literally admitted to ab*se was not ok.
@@Blastertronus He admitted for one thing, not the other. Don't just try to brush it off that he admitted to everything, he was simply defending himself like everyone else has the right to.
Using Moze for the video while talking about Sunday's VA is some subtle trolling my dude 😂
I really rwally hope the VA won't be changed. I love his current voice. It fits the character perfectly.
It could also be lore related, since apparently hes gonna a major lore dumptruck (plus griffith wouldnt have posted about sunday if he wasnt voicing him)
I HOPE HE DOESN'T CHANGE VA.... I already lost his precious wings, not the voice too now cmon 😭💔
The chronically online twitter "Community" is so beyond saving smh.
I wasn't a fan of griffin's defense of that creepy crybaby, so if the vc does get replaced, i will spend money to show my support for holding people accountable for their shitty actions. If not, i'll ftp pull because i still think that Sunday is cool. Its not like griffin is evil, just cringe. Seriously, even if you dislike him (like me), its not that deep.
They still had a grudge about what was happening with moze...yet they are not forgiven as of now
Thank fuck I play most of my games with JP VAs when available, and this is an era with amazing EN dubs (the Persona games, Dragon Ball Dub, etc), but because EN always has propaganda/drama, it's just fucking exhausting at this point.
A shame because some VAs who do not want the shit (like Bronya's EN VA) will also be dragged, because of fucking western drama.
At least yall got vas, here on genshin we dont have a part or the main story voiced😭
if he didn't protect chris noisy maybe there wouldn't be an issue or rumors like this
The person who ask for adam (nier automata) en va to voice sunday, excellent argument, approve
True, but could you remind me what time he did the thing that made everyone mad? i forgot
@@alvinvalentino5797nah i can't remember it too😂
@@alvinvalentino5797 It was a few weeks after Moze's announcement I think
This probably due to the strike and not the chris niosi stuation
Griffin wasn't the only one who tried to protect Chris, Adin Rudd also did but when the backlash started heating up, Adin vanished without a trace.
If Sucrose's EN VA wasn't replaced despite showing a foul behavior to protect Huohuo's VA, I doubt Griffin would be replaced
But making assumptions and incorrect rumors is the entire point of twitter
is why i hate about people complain and make more drama
Wow! People online are learning one basic as hell of a human skill today: not jumping to conclusions!
Seriously, this studio should just do what those voice actors ask them to do. Their demands are completly reasonable after all. They just don't want to loose their jobs. Is it soo hard to understand?
"avoid making assumptions"
Brother you said it was confirmed feixiao was fired
SAG AFTRA Strike has to be the main issue, which I'm so sick of and annoyed that this is still affecting Hoyoverse dub.
Yeah, I don't get why those voice studios don't just sign the non ai use agreement already
Yeah it's so sad that the voice actors even have to strike in the first place. I hope that they can come to an agreement soon and then everything can go on as normal
No because Athenas part made me sob for 8 minutes, and 6 seconds 😭🙏🏻
But yeah after listening to both of these songs for the first time i was full on crying then after i realized we weren't getting anymore new songs a started crying harder my mum though something happened 😭
They edited the discord one though...
He is likely getting replaced. Likely. No rumors here, just pure guessing from the clues given.
Anyways, all i wish is that sunday be given a good voice regardless of who is behind it
I'm so glad I'm on japanese dub
As long as someone can play the character well, replace or not is totally fine, is not up to us to decide.
Even if It Is a ai clone of his voice?
It's to avoid that the reason they are striking
@@Zankyo137 I think for me is totally ok 🤔, like I said, if the voice really brings out a character personality, or giving out a certain vibe that this character was designed to, then I'm fine with that, it's just a game after all, if it still brings you that immersive experience for the story line, I'm totally fine
@@Zankyo137 But of course, if the point of the concern is about fairness for other VA, then I would disagree 😅
@@lmz41 the main issue Is that if a VA get their voice cloned in america, they are not getting paid for that, on top of losing any future job
@@Zankyo137 Then again if the days come where we entirely can rely on AI voice, I think there won't be any fairness that need to be discussed, cuz the gaming industry will totally use the AI rather than a real person, it only leads to a another question or issue depends how you sees it, whether or not players will play the games or not
As someone who plays on Chinese VO, I don’t care about Sunday’s English voice and I do hope he gets replaced, because I wouldn’t like it if a man who dismisses SA voices my favorite character
I hope Sundays VA did not get swapped but i am glad that Chris was replaced by Ben before Moze even came out
Honestly I feel it might also be so he can avoid harassment because... seriously... Is anyone surprised?
Can the fandom stop harassing the vas for at least two seconds?
Thanks
I think the strike is the most likely possibility, quite a few eng vas for genshin are on strike as well bc of some ai bs (I think- I only just heard about it this afternoon)
Meanwhile, the other Asian voice actors without any problems or headaches, as they are not attacking the company itself or giving it problems
It's because their recording companies aren't using their voices for ai if I was a va I would strike too plus this acc literally only reports HoYoverse drama🤦♀️
Are not aren't *
There have been cases of drama on their end. Don't be ignorant. It took them a year to replace CN Oz from that drama. That's why Fischl didn't die up for ages.
Bro screwlum is so cute 😭
Sundays English VA defended someone who sexually abused someone for 10 years there's a reason people don't like him
It’s more of him defending someone who did it that him being the one who did it.
@@Blastertronus sorry I forgot to put that in the sentence
He was tricked into believing the man changed his ways.
The strike is against Formosa, which is the studio that does the English dubbing for GENSHIN. As far as I’m aware, they don’t do the English dubbing for star rail, so star rail actors shouldn’t be affected unless they willingly choose to strike in support, rather than because they actually have ties to Formosa
HSR is usually Agency related
Genshin is strike related
You'd be correct on that I'm pretty sure.
Hoyoverse be firing every voice actor who are actually good at voice acting
Well, it is either you get a new eng VA or eng vo will simply not exist for the next few patches because, unless you forgot, most eng VA are STILL ON STRIKE.
So choose eng vo or no eng vo.
Nice spreading misinformation you Sussy Baka 😂
Its not Hoyo who hires the va's
Greg Chun voicing Sunday would be wild, Namba in HSR
Ah yes a Drama involving EN VA.
It's always EN
fr like why doesn't jp or kr side of va business in hsr have like ANY drama? that's amazing
every time something bullshit happens with eng VA's again I can just imagine asian fans sighing in disapproval
@kivvz8453 there is drama in those places. We just don't ever see it because the sites used are not accessible or we can't read it.
@@nobody-xh6ii huh. interesting
@@kivvz8453 Wasn't there drama with Oz (Fischl's crow) old CN va? If I'm not wrong he was replaced because of adultery. He cheated 1 month into his marriage and fooled around with fans.
@@rafaeloliveira2703 yes but you're comparing something that happened at least a year ago when we get drama in the eng va space every week?
i guess sunday is always that day where it will never be drama
Babe, wake up. It's another EN VA drama.
looking forward to seeing if sunday will use this second chance to make his suster proud and be less shady lol
sister bleh cant spell today
The moral of every situation that turns into drama, don't jump to conclusions.
Just wait until you have a confirmation on the information before you make your own conclusions. Yes there are times people's speculations or assumptions turn out to be correct, but there's also many more times when they aren't 🤷
It's okay to speculate in your own head or with a group of friends if you really want to, but maybe just hold off on publicly announcing your assumptions so early on.
I dont really care about the eng va since i only heard the jpn dub one but i hope there no more drama about eng Va
I know AI is so advance but i still find AI lack of emotions and feelings. voice actors pour their heart into their work so we can truly feel it. AI can never give the same feelings. More robotic and more emotionless.
I was so excited that I didn't even notice 😅
People really forgot about the SAG-AFRA voice actor strike that fast??