Hasbro basically had them kill all of the characters off so they could make new ones to sell. A lot of kids were traumatized from this movie which actually led the GI Joe movie to change Duke's death.
@@danielmedela8725 from the clips I've seen Transformers One has no stakes and no heart. Say something else that you've liked, another film and maybe I'll reconsider if we have similar tastes.
@@JordenLeonard Imagine the Anakin Skywalker of Revenge of the Sith, and mix it with the Megatron Origins of the IDW comics. And you will have half of thr movie.
That whole initial conversation between Megatron and Unicron is some of my favor dialogue in all cinema. Orson Welles even phoning it in on his deathbed delivered an iconic performance. "You exaggerate." Unicron was already through with Megatron's bull shit.
Yup kids were watching it and they freaked the F out over this. Parent's were so pissed Hasbro literally ordered custom episodes from Japan to revive Optimus in the show.
Kids freaked the F out... That's putting it politely.I was one of those kids crying in the Theaters, and millions more were to.And oh yea,Duke was killed in the GI Joe movie, and they brought him back too.
Prime’s spark chamber was damaged which is why he couldn’t be repaired. His “soul “ leaked out basically. Later in the 3rd season of gen 1 the producers (due to backlash) figured out how to bring him back. Ultra Magnus’s spark chamber wasn’t damaged so he could be repaired right away
Yeah. Previously in the cartoon they had Optimus _almost_ die when he got badly damaged, but in a different episode he was completely taken apart, each limb and his head was separated into different pieces and he was put back together none the worse for wear.
In the UK comics, two parts were mentioned which were necessary for the life of the bots. they could be located on any part of the body. Indirect damage is possible. The rest could be easily repaired. maybe even heal. With the right tools, you could even use severely damaged robots as zombies via remote control. An Autobot has created a zombie robot army.
Magnus wasn't even destroyed, he supposed to be quartered(remember "tear him apart" from Unicron). That's why Galvatron's voice in that moment bad in quality, and that's why sweeps has static lasers
Agree with 75% BUT..... it is explained later that the planet Junkieon is somehow surrounded by an immortality field. Because of that the junkions can live and thrive there without Energon.Thats also why it's useless to try to fight them when they have home field advantage. If this battle would have occurred somewhere else Ultra Magnus would be gone 4 good
@@AIFT_Staffyeah....the theater release shows the Sweeps actually TEAR him apart as you described. And it was SLOW! Possibly the most disturbing part of the movie
28:15 Wrong - Optimus was waiting for Megatron to arm himself so he could destroy him without "killing an unarmed combatant" which is part of Optimus's code of honor - something the Bay movies gets wrong time and again. It also was not Hot Rod's fault because he didn't understand the situation (like Arcee mentioned) because if he had, then he would've stopped, pointed his blasters at Megatron, and the two of them would have killed Megatron at the same time.
Did you not hear the "No matter the cost" line? Optimus wasn't playing games. Not to mention he picked up his blaster before he got close enough to be able to see what Megatron was trying to do.
Optimus couldn't see the gun from his angle and Megatron knew it. Thats why he started begging just to keep Optimus from firing long enough for him to get the gun. and yeah honestly Hot Rod was pretty much at fault here. He was told to stay out of it and if he hadn't jumped in and been used as a shield Optimus could have fired and finished Megatron. Even if Megatron got the gun he would have needed to bring it up to aim at Optimus and that would have given Optimus enough time to shoot first since he already had his blaster pointed at Megatron.
The only real and true Transformers movie, 1986 Transformers The Movie and the fall and rise and fall and rise of our childhoods. Every year at Christmas we keep the tradition and watch this on Christmas Eve and it's passed down through the generations. This movie lead the way for animation movies, it sold you on everything and draws you in matching the vocals, music, the deaths of Optimus and Megatron, Starscream and others and the global riots from every kid when they did the Optimus death will always be remembered. This truly broke through the fourth, fifth and sixth walls as it had the human saying the " Oh shoot!, what are we going to do now?" (yes they really did say the word TH-cam won't allow you to say (that sold the realism even Daniel and Dad's interactions, the seeds of Daniel and RC's love, Hot Rod being a teenager and so much more. The fact Orson Wells died after this sealed his legacy as well and no movie has ever replicated what was done here.
Optimus died cause he stood there MONOLOGING instead of putting one in Megatron's dome immediately. I'm sick of people blaming Hot Rod for trying to help like a true HERO would. Hell the guy stepped up throughout the movie but the Optimus scene is all anyone talks about. Autobot city would have been FUCKED if Hot Rod hadn't taken Daniel up to Look out Mountain. Does he get credit? NO.
It’s both sides at play tbh. Also Prime has to monologue before ending it cause that was his bro back then and they’ve been fighting for millions of years. Yk he’s gotta end it talking trash. Like Prime was literally about to shot him before or as he’s reaching for the gun. Prime would’ve shot him before and even if Megatron got a shot off it would most likely only be one instead of how many he got off in the movie
@Fenris30 Yep. Considering optimus prime died beforehand to megatron when he was orion pax as well, he should've known better..never EVER trust megaton. He put a hole through ironside head. Slaughtered most of his friends..compassionate or not prime should've ended megaton there and then. Hasbro irregardless were going to kill prime anyway. Hotrod tried to do the right thing and messed up, but bumblebee, cliff jumper, hell even mirage would've done the exact sane thing. Prime in the comic still dies to megatron because he hesitated and megaton still shot him down. Hot rod gets there too late and still hates himself for it. I like optimus but he made some pretty bad decisions in this movie Inc sending his medics out on a suicide run which could've been the very thing that could've saved him.
This came out before they fleshed out the Prime backstory. They were killing the toy line 🤦🏽♂️. Prime had One job to do, and he missed the opportunity because he ran his mouth Instead. Objectively stupid and tactically moronic. Hot Rod did him a solid, but was overpowered by Megatron. No Yeo sides, just what was right in front of you. Don't think so hard 😉. Prime died tryina be John Wayne.
The reason for Spike saying 'shit' after the explosion is so in the US they could have a 'PG' rating in theatres, so they can show it for longer periods during the day.
Something not everybody knows: Hot Rod was inspired by Luke Skywalker, Springer by Han Solo, and Arcee by Princess Leia. You can keep asigning characters from this movie to original trilogy Star Wars characters, but once you realize that Darth Vader would be Starscream, it becomes absurd. Though I want a Grimlock/Chewbacca crossover.
@@sakeem5830 Seduced by an evil emperor they conspired to kill and ended killing, check. Black helmet, check. Died before a big metal ball of death gets destroyed, check. Ellite warrior, check. Elite pilot, kinda check. And if we use Armada version, we can add lightsaber profficiency! XD
No, don't give them any credit. They thought they were refreshing a toy line. They didn't actually know they had an iconic character that made this toyline a top shelf franchise. That said, killing Optimus may have solidified him as that, but it was purely an accident, they didn't know what they had or the impact of the series on their audience.
Haven’t seen one yet but this is still my favorite transformers movie ever. I remember holding my tears back in the theater didn’t want to show my dad I was crying. Even though Hasbro wanted to move a hotline by killing off the old characters it taught us good format always win and sacrifices need to be made to secure victory. So many scenes in this movie along with a great soundtrack this is the goat
Nice to see people reacting to this- I saw it in the theater in ‘86 and it was crazy how it seemed like a grown-up movie to me because of the death toll and glam/butt rock metal soundtrack Still pretty great movie today
@@GeekLodestars I got a question would you be interested in reacting to regular show and total drama island cartoon series? Both are very good and worth watching.
It was all Hot Rod's fault. That's clear, but real reason Optimus Prime died was Toy Sales! That's right, Hasbro toy line wanted to bring in new bots, but the series has tons of bots in it. So they used the movie to remove older toy lines for new ones. Where Spike was a teen in the first 2 seasons, he's now a father of Daniel (also known as Dan-0 by the bots). This didn't sit well with kids who asked parents to buy thy toys. So Hasbro course corrected and brought him back. A newer, all plastic version would be released. It's not as good as the OG, but nothing ever is. By the way, I was 17 when I was introduced to the series and went all in on the toy line. I had the OG Optimus and Megatron toys.
Only in any Japanese series does Megatron become Galvatron, past G1, albeit in the last handful of episodes. Pretty sure in Beast Wars/Machine, Animated, Prime, Cyberverse, and Earthspark, which are all American made shows, Megatron does not become Galvatron.
@@GeekLodestarsNo don't cater too this Fan Boi Who thinks he knows who's a fault I'm sick and tired of idiots saying Megatron is the real reason Optimus died No Rod Rod got in the way the actual reason foe Optimus death Period only a Republican saying that it's Megatron's is Fucking Wrong And Toxic As Fuck FYI Republicans made up Wokeisum its there shit not us DemocratsBruh!
I woke up to the UK comics. The film is included in continuity. It was only later that I saw more of the TV series and was surprised at how less brutal it was.
I really don't like seeing Optimus die in any incarnation. He's my #1 favorite Autobot/Transformer, but damn if he didn't have a really great final fight against Megatron. Also....The universal greeting is understood by most creatures in the galaxy. It can be roughly translated to "Hello, we mean you no harm," or "We come in peace," or "Do you hate dirtwad Decepticons as much as we do?"
This is my favorite movie for sheer vibes. I have learned to just enjoy stupid stuff and not try to sound smart by saying something is my favorite for a list of complex reasons.
Shockwave was supposed to be crushed by Unicron. Storyboards unused tell an even better story. How Ultra Magnus and other Autobots defeated Devastator. And the constructicons killed more Autobots.
Hey! Ty here so let me just be clear I never saw this movie in full yes I saw clips of Megatron versus Optimus and I knew what happened to Optimus but I never saw the full movie as a kid ever so this was my first time. Thank your for watching !!!
@@GeekLodestars I think thats the general consensus. I enjoyed Snake Eyes and it put me onto the actor Andrew Koji. He went on to do the series Warrior.
Hey this is Tai! So we did say this is not our first time in the video but I cut that part out so this is more my first time in a long time seeing the movie because I haven't seen it since I was a child. Sorry for the confusion!
The Bay-verse movie were trash bro. They went so far away from the low I couldn't watch it. The bad Bumblebee as a 1983 Camaro? No. This movie took place 22 years after the end of Season 2. I couldn't continue to watch the rest of this video because the CONSTANT INCESSANT TALKING thru every freaking second ruined this reaction video
Okay well I don't know if you watch other reaction videos but they all do the same thing as well so maybe you should just stop watching reaction videos. Thank you for the comments tho and the watch!
Still the best Transformers film to date. Real stakes, real deaths, the franchise was changed after this film.
A month ago, I would have agreed with you with no question.
Today, having watched Transformers One, I am not so sure.
Hasbro basically had them kill all of the characters off so they could make new ones to sell. A lot of kids were traumatized from this movie which actually led the GI Joe movie to change Duke's death.
@@danielmedela8725 I'm taking my nephew to it tonight, I'll let you know if my opinion changes.
@@danielmedela8725 from the clips I've seen Transformers One has no stakes and no heart. Say something else that you've liked, another film and maybe I'll reconsider if we have similar tastes.
@@JordenLeonard Imagine the Anakin Skywalker of Revenge of the Sith, and mix it with the Megatron Origins of the IDW comics. And you will have half of thr movie.
The voice of Unicron Orson Wells was famous since the 30s. This was his last role
He died days later
I loved his voice. Everytime i get hungry for real, a voice in my head goes, " Unicron hungers."
@@oliviawilliams6204He died days after completing his voice work but almost a year before the film's release..
That whole initial conversation between Megatron and Unicron is some of my favor dialogue in all cinema. Orson Welles even phoning it in on his deathbed delivered an iconic performance. "You exaggerate." Unicron was already through with Megatron's bull shit.
"NOBODY SUMMONS MEGATRON!"
"Then it pleases me to be the first"
Considering Hasbro's mandate, Bumblebee was lucky to live through this movie to get reformatted in Season 3.
Goldbug is Badassatron level cringe though.
"This is graphic as hell!"
An apt description for this film overall, yeah.
Yup kids were watching it and they freaked the F out over this. Parent's were so pissed Hasbro literally ordered custom episodes from Japan to revive Optimus in the show.
Kids freaked the F out... That's putting it politely.I was one of those kids crying in the Theaters, and millions more were to.And oh yea,Duke was killed in the GI Joe movie, and they brought him back too.
This why I never buy it when genXers talk about how tough they are
Yeah, I heard that because of the reaction to this, they opted not to have duke die in the gi joe movie
Prime’s spark chamber was damaged which is why he couldn’t be repaired. His “soul “ leaked out basically. Later in the 3rd season of gen 1 the producers (due to backlash) figured out how to bring him back. Ultra Magnus’s spark chamber wasn’t damaged so he could be repaired right away
Yeah. Previously in the cartoon they had Optimus _almost_ die when he got badly damaged, but in a different episode he was completely taken apart, each limb and his head was separated into different pieces and he was put back together none the worse for wear.
In the UK comics, two parts were mentioned which were necessary for the life of the bots. they could be located on any part of the body. Indirect damage is possible. The rest could be easily repaired. maybe even heal. With the right tools, you could even use severely damaged robots as zombies via remote control. An Autobot has created a zombie robot army.
Magnus wasn't even destroyed, he supposed to be quartered(remember "tear him apart" from Unicron). That's why Galvatron's voice in that moment bad in quality, and that's why sweeps has static lasers
Agree with 75% BUT..... it is explained later that the planet Junkieon is somehow surrounded by an immortality field. Because of that the junkions can live and thrive there without Energon.Thats also why it's useless to try to fight them when they have home field advantage.
If this battle would have occurred somewhere else Ultra Magnus would be gone 4 good
@@AIFT_Staffyeah....the theater release shows the Sweeps actually TEAR him apart as you described.
And it was SLOW! Possibly the most disturbing part of the movie
Only 3 of the original 18 autobots survived the movie - Jazz, Cliffjumper, and Bumblebee.
That's a crazy amount of characters that were killed off.
At the very beginning you said it didn't matter if they were killed because they're just robots but they aren't , they're alive with spirit souls.
28:15 Wrong - Optimus was waiting for Megatron to arm himself so he could destroy him without "killing an unarmed combatant" which is part of Optimus's code of honor - something the Bay movies gets wrong time and again. It also was not Hot Rod's fault because he didn't understand the situation (like Arcee mentioned) because if he had, then he would've stopped, pointed his blasters at Megatron, and the two of them would have killed Megatron at the same time.
Did you not hear the "No matter the cost" line? Optimus wasn't playing games. Not to mention he picked up his blaster before he got close enough to be able to see what Megatron was trying to do.
This is an interesting theory and it does make sense. Even though Prime is a mechanism of honor.
Optimus couldn't see the gun from his angle and Megatron knew it. Thats why he started begging just to keep Optimus from firing long enough for him to get the gun. and yeah honestly Hot Rod was pretty much at fault here. He was told to stay out of it and if he hadn't jumped in and been used as a shield Optimus could have fired and finished Megatron. Even if Megatron got the gun he would have needed to bring it up to aim at Optimus and that would have given Optimus enough time to shoot first since he already had his blaster pointed at Megatron.
@@digitaladventurer2142 And Hot Rod knew it, which is why he said Optimus forgive me. I blame Hot Rod, but I've also forgiven him.
@@3RayfireWe all make mistakes. Hot Rod being young and brash made a decision he regretted for a long time.
The only real and true Transformers movie, 1986 Transformers The Movie and the fall and rise and fall and rise of our childhoods. Every year at Christmas we keep the tradition and watch this on Christmas Eve and it's passed down through the generations. This movie lead the way for animation movies, it sold you on everything and draws you in matching the vocals, music, the deaths of Optimus and Megatron, Starscream and others and the global riots from every kid when they did the Optimus death will always be remembered. This truly broke through the fourth, fifth and sixth walls as it had the human saying the " Oh shoot!, what are we going to do now?" (yes they really did say the word TH-cam won't allow you to say (that sold the realism even Daniel and Dad's interactions, the seeds of Daniel and RC's love, Hot Rod being a teenager and so much more. The fact Orson Wells died after this sealed his legacy as well and no movie has ever replicated what was done here.
Optimus died cause he stood there MONOLOGING instead of putting one in Megatron's dome immediately. I'm sick of people blaming Hot Rod for trying to help like a true HERO would. Hell the guy stepped up throughout the movie but the Optimus scene is all anyone talks about. Autobot city would have been FUCKED if Hot Rod hadn't taken Daniel up to Look out Mountain. Does he get credit? NO.
It’s both sides at play tbh. Also Prime has to monologue before ending it cause that was his bro back then and they’ve been fighting for millions of years. Yk he’s gotta end it talking trash. Like Prime was literally about to shot him before or as he’s reaching for the gun. Prime would’ve shot him before and even if Megatron got a shot off it would most likely only be one instead of how many he got off in the movie
@Fenris30 Yep. Considering optimus prime died beforehand to megatron when he was orion pax as well, he should've known better..never EVER trust megaton. He put a hole through ironside head. Slaughtered most of his friends..compassionate or not prime should've ended megaton there and then.
Hasbro irregardless were going to kill prime anyway. Hotrod tried to do the right thing and messed up, but bumblebee, cliff jumper, hell even mirage would've done the exact sane thing.
Prime in the comic still dies to megatron because he hesitated and megaton still shot him down. Hot rod gets there too late and still hates himself for it.
I like optimus but he made some pretty bad decisions in this movie Inc sending his medics out on a suicide run which could've been the very thing that could've saved him.
This came out before they fleshed out the Prime backstory. They were killing the toy line 🤦🏽♂️. Prime had One job to do, and he missed the opportunity because he ran his mouth Instead. Objectively stupid and tactically moronic. Hot Rod did him a solid, but was overpowered by Megatron. No Yeo sides, just what was right in front of you. Don't think so hard 😉. Prime died tryina be John Wayne.
The reason for Spike saying 'shit' after the explosion is so in the US they could have a 'PG' rating in theatres, so they can show it for longer periods during the day.
Something not everybody knows: Hot Rod was inspired by Luke Skywalker, Springer by Han Solo, and Arcee by Princess Leia.
You can keep asigning characters from this movie to original trilogy Star Wars characters, but once you realize that Darth Vader would be Starscream, it becomes absurd.
Though I want a Grimlock/Chewbacca crossover.
I’m sorry but let’s not ever compare Starscream to Darth Vader ok
@@sakeem5830 Seduced by an evil emperor they conspired to kill and ended killing, check. Black helmet, check. Died before a big metal ball of death gets destroyed, check. Ellite warrior, check. Elite pilot, kinda check. And if we use Armada version, we can add lightsaber profficiency! XD
No, don't give them any credit. They thought they were refreshing a toy line. They didn't actually know they had an iconic character that made this toyline a top shelf franchise. That said, killing Optimus may have solidified him as that, but it was purely an accident, they didn't know what they had or the impact of the series on their audience.
but they planned to kill him since 1983(first episode of show was aired in 1984)
Haven’t seen one yet but this is still my favorite transformers movie ever. I remember holding my tears back in the theater didn’t want to show my dad I was crying. Even though Hasbro wanted to move a hotline by killing off the old characters it taught us good format always win and sacrifices need to be made to secure victory. So many scenes in this movie along with a great soundtrack this is the goat
Nice to see people reacting to this- I saw it in the theater in ‘86 and it was crazy how it seemed like a grown-up movie to me because of the death toll and glam/butt rock metal soundtrack
Still pretty great movie today
It definitely still holds up after so many years
Optimus comes back to life at the end of season three.
Yeah the song dare to be stupid was weird Al
I had a feeling that voice was too familiar
@@GeekLodestars I got a question would you be interested in reacting to regular show and total drama island cartoon series? Both are very good and worth watching.
@@Cutiepie-mf4ht oh that's a good idea I love those shows. Tai has never seen Regular Show and it's been a while since we've seen Total Drama Island.
@@GeekLodestarsdefinitely. It was crazy when I found out it was him.
@@GeekLodestars so will you react to these two shows since your friend never seen them
It was all Hot Rod's fault. That's clear, but real reason Optimus Prime died was Toy Sales! That's right, Hasbro toy line wanted to bring in new bots, but the series has tons of bots in it. So they used the movie to remove older toy lines for new ones.
Where Spike was a teen in the first 2 seasons, he's now a father of Daniel (also known as Dan-0 by the bots). This didn't sit well with kids who asked parents to buy thy toys. So Hasbro course corrected and brought him back. A newer, all plastic version would be released. It's not as good as the OG, but nothing ever is.
By the way, I was 17 when I was introduced to the series and went all in on the toy line. I had the OG Optimus and Megatron toys.
Only in any Japanese series does Megatron become Galvatron, past G1, albeit in the last handful of episodes. Pretty sure in Beast Wars/Machine, Animated, Prime, Cyberverse, and Earthspark, which are all American made shows, Megatron does not become Galvatron.
I agree, Springer is my guy.
Stop victim blaming! It was Megatron's fault.
Lol fair enough
@@GeekLodestarsNo don't cater too this Fan Boi Who thinks he knows who's a fault I'm sick and tired of idiots saying Megatron is the real reason Optimus died No Rod Rod got in the way the actual reason foe Optimus death Period only a Republican saying that it's Megatron's is Fucking Wrong And Toxic As Fuck FYI Republicans made up Wokeisum its there shit not us DemocratsBruh!
I woke up to the UK comics. The film is included in continuity. It was only later that I saw more of the TV series and was surprised at how less brutal it was.
I really don't like seeing Optimus die in any incarnation. He's my #1 favorite Autobot/Transformer, but damn if he didn't have a really great final fight against Megatron. Also....The universal greeting is understood by most creatures in the galaxy. It can be roughly translated to "Hello, we mean you no harm," or "We come in peace," or "Do you hate dirtwad Decepticons as much as we do?"
This is my favorite movie for sheer vibes. I have learned to just enjoy stupid stuff and not try to sound smart by saying something is my favorite for a list of complex reasons.
This whole movie is a vibe and I love it
Soundwave
Cassette recorder ❌
Boombox✔️
😂😂😂....😐
Shockwave was supposed to be crushed by Unicron. Storyboards unused tell an even better story. How Ultra Magnus and other Autobots defeated Devastator. And the constructicons killed more Autobots.
Better then transformers one.
I've seen the movie twice I enjoyed it alot.
@@GeekLodestarsI own it on bluray. Glade you enjoy it !
Ultra Magnus a city commader, tough, but less then a Prime.
Til all are One.
yup, just killed 3rd in command. Prowl.
That's why hot rod become rodimus prime...bcoz he touch the matrix first
fIRST TIME? Highly doubt it.
Hey! Ty here so let me just be clear I never saw this movie in full yes I saw clips of Megatron versus Optimus and I knew what happened to Optimus but I never saw the full movie as a kid ever so this was my first time. Thank your for watching !!!
Ratchet, and wheeljack, no saving Prime.
The next Live action is supposed to be a Transformers/G.I. Joe crossover film.
Fingers crossed it's good! I enjoyed the first GI Joe movie second one not so much.
@@GeekLodestars I think thats the general consensus. I enjoyed Snake Eyes and it put me onto the actor Andrew Koji. He went on to do the series Warrior.
First time watching? Idk, seems like there were alot of times y’all knew or said what was gonna happen before it happened.
I had stated I have seen the movie before in the video.
@@GeekLodestars did ya? must have missed that part.. I was just goin by the title of the video which read first time watching.
@@fatalwreck9254 it was probably cut out in editing.
@@fatalwreck9254 Nah, they've seen this and remembered it, it's a click-bait.
@@Scorpwanna 🤣💀🤦♂️🫵🏼
Blitzkrieg.
hi can you react to all transformer japanese opening it have another timeline than in US
I will talk to Tai and try to get that out there for you ASAP.
Spock soon.
First time wtf ever
Hey this is Tai! So we did say this is not our first time in the video but I cut that part out so this is more my first time in a long time seeing the movie because I haven't seen it since I was a child. Sorry for the confusion!
Shrapnal.
This is Transformers THE REAL MOVIE. Not the rubbish BayFormers.
The Bay-verse movie were trash bro. They went so far away from the low I couldn't watch it. The bad Bumblebee as a 1983 Camaro? No. This movie took place 22 years after the end of Season 2. I couldn't continue to watch the rest of this video because the CONSTANT INCESSANT TALKING thru every freaking second ruined this reaction video
Okay well I don't know if you watch other reaction videos but they all do the same thing as well so maybe you should just stop watching reaction videos.
Thank you for the comments tho and the watch!
Sorry man. You talk just to talk. Which is too much.
Which one?