Honey is so young, yet SOOOO SMART, DETERMINED, FOCUSED AND TALENTED! She also understands the business and NOBODY is gonna dim her shine! She's on a trajectory up to the stars and I am here for it!!!!
I like Honey she's talented and smart but the only thing would I'd say regarding the hate or backlash she received from the black girls is that History has shown us too often that anything Black folks create can get highjacked depending on who we let in. The Latin girls were in it with us No doubt but when opportunities are being pushed more on that side as well as being pushed as the face of the culture that's when things get Merky and tension builds. As black ppl we tend to Gatekeep because of this, doesn't make our antics right but looking at it through that lends should helps others understand. That's it good interview Dashaun 🖤❤️
Wow such a well spoken and empathetic person. Honestly reminds me of myself. Don’t EVER change!!!!!!! I’m 56 and I’m learning to embrace these qualities. People really are insecure and jealous. It has NOTHING to do with you. I’m soooo happy you danced with Beyoncé. The QUEEN recognized your talent! Stay the path!
Love Honey downe, but I don’t think she truly understands the full scope of “privilege” and how it actually has benefitted her. Dashaun did a great job maintaining a “conversation” instead of lecturing her in a way that she probably needs one-on-one and sober. She made some great points, but her worldview just matches the generation she grew up in, and even though it’s not entirely her fault, I hope she someday understands that statements like “it’s your choice! If you have no one on your team and no one working for you, who’s fault is that?” and “I’ve learned the ins and outs of the industry at the age of 16!“ are rooted in privilege and more about access to experiences, than just the delusion that you simply “worked hard for it”. This was a great episode overall.
"Privilege" is definitely real, however in THIS case I'm not 100% sure that's applicable. Honey is where she is because he's talented and not afraid to take chances. IF anything, being Latina or "passing " was a henderance ESPECIALLY in ball room. Flat out, Honey has IT, And the gurlz can't take.
@@mediainternational2332girl what? lie again. ballroom has always gave life to mediocre white latinas or whitepassing girls. Honey is far from mediocre but i’m sure she would have still gotten her life just for looking the way she does. Honey has benefited from white privilege her whole career in and outside of ballroom. that is okay to admit!
So glad Honey was able to acknowledge their privilege. Sis is very talented and amazing but we cannot act like their isn’t a mainstream push for Honey due to their “image”
Honey is talented and a hard worker. It's not her fault that these people treat her differently and it's unfair that people are making her apologize for the success she has earned.
"the fact that I knew more than half of y'all and I was half y'all age?" the proverbial "you", "girls", "they", "you guys","y'all" that honey references is the larger black population in ballroom by the way. I want to thank Dashaun for hosting this conversation because it illuminates the racial disparity in ballroom, entertainment business and at large the world. the obsession with celebrity, the assumed security in adjacency to the aformentioned (girlfriendism), the viability of ballroom as a reliable source of income for ball walkers of a certain tenure (ageism), I can go on & on.
Honey knowing how to navigate the entertainment industry is not the flex she thinks it is, given that it’s 2023. We are in the age of the social media influencer/personal branding. The elders she claims to know more than did not exist in a climate where you could monetize and capitalize from social media. Honey is following the blueprint of a social media influencer and flexing like it’s some innovative, ground-breaking approach. When it’s not. You were born at the right time, in the age of social media and information. You’ve followed the path of professional dancers. Ok so what. Clap for yourself I guess. But don’t use that to down other people especially your elders who didn’t have the same opportunities you had.
@@Kufo-Oriji4632 Well said! Plus, the arrogance is pungent. Too much caping and pacifying someone who seems "above it all." Kudos to her accomplishments, but who is she trying to convince? Us or herself?
Honey is delusional and full of herself. She is so disrespectful to the whole community. She is a bad representation of white people. I don’t support her.!
Y’all nailed it on the head. What Honey has in talent, she lacks in other areas like respect, professionalism, etc. This is what happens when someone young who hasn’t learned these things yet or have the life experience yet gets success early. They be speaking out their mouth crazy not realizing the errors in their ways. I hope she does eventually learn & sees these interviews when they’re older & realize how cringe & disrespectful they were coming across at times.
I always loved Honey for her talents, I never had a chance to see her personality, but after seeing her talking so sincerely, I admire her personality too. Has a wise mind at such a young age. She is just amazing and stunning.
I love Honey!!!! "Why are you yelling?" Because the topic deserves it. Thank you both for sharing your perspective and challenges in rebranding and protecting yourselves!
Dashaun can you please get your Vogue Evolution sista the Iconic Prince Miyake-Mugler on your show. I was heartbroken that Legendary didn’t highlight their story which they should have. It would be great to see you all catch up and hear their story.
One the one hand I can understand that if there was different treatment it would be upsetting, however, is that Honey’s fault, or the show’s? Both contestants should have been allowed time to grieve and time to be with their families. It’s disgusting that the show wouldn’t release ANYONE if they had a death in the family. I can’t even imagine that’s actually legal. Maybe Diego needed better advice and support, but that shouldn’t have been on him. At the end of the day, it’s the show’s fault. It’s not Honey who was smart enough to book an agent first who luckily was there to help her through the situation.
Im just learning about Honey from the beyonce tour and from the 1st stop, she caught my eye. I was like who is this girl! She has it! I am learning the good and bad, but overall she is dope.
That ending! 😂 I'm dead! 💀I had no idea Honey went through that on Legendary. That is so intense and she still shined better than anyone. She's an icon!
they way they treated honey (from what she’s saying) was so wrong but i need honey to understand the privilege that she has bc i really don’t think that she grasps the full scope of it
im not taking anything serious she says because at the end of the day WHAT DID SHE DO to solve the division and WHAT DID SHE DO to stop the shade towards black people within Ballroom? Thats the fkn question. She provided NO SOLUTION because she didnt DO ANYTHING TO STOP the shade. Beginning and END of the day, she is there because she WALKED through a Black Ballroom door. Thats it, and thats all
I love Honey down. 😩 She's beyond accomplished. I sometimes just don't know how to interpret her character. She EXUDES confidence, which is great bcs self confidence is key! I'm just not sure if she is self aware?
You said this perfectly. I love Honey. Her star quality is undeniable. Her talent is inspiring. I loved her first interview as she really got to show her humble beginnings. BUT, this interview didn’t portray her in a good light. I’m now starting to see what people mean by her being arrogant. Regardless, she is still young and maturing. She has time to develop a better attitude
She may not even remotely care one way or the other, but with some of this all i can say is thank goodness the interview is with someone who is fond of honey and I keep reminding myself it’s them conversing- but give Dashaun a moment to respond to your points - loud and forceful may look confident but that doesn’t mean correct or informed.
Part one was a Kiki part 2 was a bit unhinged but some hard truths came out. We all see the success on social media & stuff but we don’t think of all the negativity that comes with the success especially at a young age. Honey is still growing & I hope they are still able to learn a lot more and not be stunted by the fame.
I totally commend and respect Honey for leaving to handle family business. I think too often we watch tv shows where someone says “_____(insert name of loved one who just passed away) would want me to stay, I’m doing this for him/her.” I get we all handle grief differently and some of us just aren’t as close to our families, but I 10000% would have also found a way to be with my family to grieve and come back if possible!
Confidence isn't loud; it's felt. Furthermore, the indirect Diego shade is nasty! Also, losing his mother wasn't a cakewalk. So why keep bringing up "comparison"? A loss is a loss - stop, Honey. You can be frustrated and still be fair - that comment was ugly - a significant character flaw. Leiomy peeped that early!
I agree. The constant Diego and Mugler shade was very uncalled for. I’m not even the biggest fan of the Mugler House. But it is undeniable that they worked their asses off for a well deserved win while having to deal with bereavement. Honey had no reason to shade that talented house. She needs to shade Kelly Gorgeous Gucci who put the information out there to the public ns And tbh everything Kelly said, came true on the show we all watched. So I have no reason not to believe Kelly or her sources. Looks like she told no lies
@@wondergirl4136 Yes, you’re right! The House of Mugler rightfully won against the House of Balenciaga. Everyone, down to the Father of the house, performed and, like Honey said to Dashaun, “constantly slammed their back.” Even with the critiques, mourning, challenges faced, and biased contracts - they persevered and won! Bravo to them! Honey’s misdirected anger about contracts should be directed to Kelly, but we all know the girls tread lightly when it comes to her, so she needs to give it a rest if she’s not addressing the original messenger. Her responses seemed very petty because of the faux inspiration and an above it all attitude, which translates as insincere. Self-awareness is truly a skill that not everyone knows.
I don’t blame honey for feeling Hurt and isolated..imagine losing a sibling and u leave to go mourn and then come back and everyone is acting a way to you? I don’t think honey was being malicious she was coming from a place of hurt when retelling the story
But why would the casting people tell them that? What were the casting people saying to everyone else? It sounds like the casting people were trying to set fires and fan flames for entertainment purposes.
@@brooksinternational4128 I’m not clear on what you mean. This is not to take away from Honey’s experience, but we don’t know what was being relayed to the other contestants in real time.
@@Random_Identity you don’t know how tv works, they do shit like this all the time to stir shit up for more drama. They do evil shit and the process is hell.
@@brooksinternational4128I get y’all are Honey fans but if you’re going to tell it. Tell it all. Yea he lost his sister but Diago or Malik or someone lost their mom/family member too. It’s the middle of the pandemic And they were not allowed to go home to their family and come back. RULES of the show. The rules also was you couldn’t miss a certain amount of days/episode or you or the team would be disqualified. Also, Honey had in his contract that he was going to be their until the end of the show. So with all that. You can see why the other girls felt like she was favored and the Balenciagas was set up to make it to the finale. Honey had a separate everything from the girl. And when it got out. Instead of empathizing with the girls who lost their family member n couldn’t leave The Balenciagas told the girls they should’ve had better contracts. Nobody knew ppl was getting different contracts. That’s not fair at all
Ah girl Honey! I understand both perspectives. Tbh that dynamic is everywhere in life. God bless them and in the meantime keep doin you and be great. 🥰🤩
This is one smart cookie!! This is the kind of person who will last long term! Knows good business and very very talented. Can’t make friends with everyone. It’s business
Respectfully, people hate on Honey for the same reason they hate on Leiomy. They are naturally gifted and have a certain spark that everyone doesn’t have. We’ve seen this story play out time and time again.
This is an outright lie and very disrespectful to Leiomy. Why? Leiomy was shaded and received hate because she was slaying legends and icons. She literally changed the landscape of ballroom by creating iconic moves e.g. the 360 dip and the Lolly. Mind you, most ppl don’t even attempt the Lolly because no one can execute it like Leiomy. She went on a dance show in a time when gay marriage was still illegal in America!! Ballroom was still underground when Vogue Evolution went on that show!! THIS is why the girls hated Leiomy. Now please tell me what impact has Honey caused to bother the girls? What moves has she created? What legends and icons has she beaten? What boundaries has she broken down? 😂😂
@@wondergirl4136 Your response makes me believe you didn't even read my comment. I said they are NATURALLY GIFTED and have a certain SPARK that everyone does not have. I said nothing about impact or creating moves. I don't understand how that could somehow be interpreted as a goddamn insult. Shit
@@JonathanESmithOfficial I read and understood your comment perfectly well. Please go read your first sentence. That alone was problematic. You said people hate on Honey for the same reasons they hated on Leiomy. That is not true and if you knew ballroom history you would never say that. Naturally gifted? Most people in ballroom are naturally gifted so why use that as the measure for people who stand out. Provide better reasons to compare Leiomy to Honey. Naturally gifted is a pathetic comparison.
Whew these comments Chile. Honey spoke Honey’s truth. It’s disheartening that the Legendary experience wasn’t a more loving environment ….but shade will be thrown anytime there is money & a camera involved. Honey is also very young STILL. Y’all ain’t gotta like her to acknowledge how YOU would feel at 19, 20 during a family tragedy but still trying to push & get the work done. There’s room for growth within all of us. And no Dashaun slanderrrrrr will be tolerated 🗣️😂😂
If we’re requesting guests, can you get Cesar from Ballroom throwbacks and even Kelly. Hell I wish we could get MC Debra. Before Legendary, they helped but Ballroom on the map with the content on TH-cam.
The interview was cute but the only issue I have is I don’t like when people act like they are too good for something. Obviously know your worth but don’t act like you’re above the show and then go on the show then act like you don’t need to be here because you’re already successful. It’s like when people say they are bigger than ballroom now so they don’t walk balls anymore but the following week they will be at a ball. Like ok, just let other people profit from the opportunity then.
it wasnt about that nor that at all though. as honey said at 3:27 you dont pay someone below their worth for their talent that that worked hard to showcase to many, and expect them to be okay. its the same as a baker or painter who gives you an amazing piece of work using the finest materials and they’ve perfected their skill,, you arent gonna expect to give them $100 and them be happy.
@@zepies9088 I agree. If she thinks she’s worth a certain amount of money, she should absolutely demand that. I was more so saying I don’t like the “I don’t need to be here” attitude. I just notice a lot of people in ballroom do that and it’s annoying. There’s one person I follow and every other month they post something about not walking balls anymore and being bigger than ballroom or they will tell people to not talk to them about ballroom. Yet they still walk balls. It’s just like humble yourself. If you feel like you’re too good for it, stop walking and give the opportunity to someone that has a passion for it.
Exactly I caught that too it's just like oh I'm too good to be here so I'm going to treat you like dirt even though I want to be here because this is helping my image and helping me be relevant okay.
I think there is a convo that can be had about which opportunities that are presented, to whom and how race impacts that. That convo requires introspection and honesty, though. It’s a bit ignorant to dismiss how race impacts everything including opportunities. So, the casting people told you that no one wanted you around? You don’t think they were trying to sow discord to make for more entertainment? Who knows what they were telling the other contestants. This is not to take away from Honey’s experience in any way, but there needs be some critical thinking about how and why certain things were relayed/presented to the cast as a whole.
Smart girl. She knew ballroom was a stepping stone and that’s it! Sounds harsh, but she knew the game exactly for what it is. No formula to it, know what you’re dealing with it. 💕
Honey , You are one Smart person !!! Continue Your journey in life !! I'm going to be 72 on May 20th. 2023 . That is this Saturday, and I would Love for You to Educate Me on Everything Ballroom !! I see that You have " IT" , and You are going to the Stars !! Luv Ya ❤🧡♥️💜💛💚💙🤎🖤🤍🌈
Honey made me fall in love w them after this. As a brown skin Latina Im always being questioned and having to prove I deserve things. Such a Icon already
Her talking about some Latino and black history talking about. Everybody can walk now you don’t even know what you’re talking about you’re so damn disrespectful.
Honestly I don't like his attitude. He's rude and dismissive. He's using his privilege to control the show. I don't like how he continues to disrespect the host. We let these other girls feel it on our time. This is just sad.
@@DashaunWesley educate ur “mother” on anti blackness and colourism the “darker” girls as she says and also she is white passing u can be latino and white goofy just as u can be latinx and black do better
I have met people like that and that is very annoying it's almost like they don't want you to have anything to say and they don't want you to have a response as if you're just supposed to sit there and listen to them very rude.
Love you both. Preach! You both see the future, and are amazing leaders for the community, and the change it needs. Live with love, like Honey said. 👍❤️
I knew honey from here and there post on Insta, Twitter, TikTok and etc but fell in loveee. Watching this made me obsessed with honey. Also finding Dashaun is a bonus!!! Loved this video
Not honey lowkey calling out SOMEBODY about the “noguing” and mainstream media noguing. No names need to be said cause it’s obvious. I said what I said 🤷🏽♂️ I’m ready for comments lol
@@Powerpuff772 do you understand the concept of shade? Just because Honey didn’t explicitly state names, doesn’t mean she didn’t make it clear who she was talking about. Let’s not play dumb. Honey tried to take the classy route by saying no names all while dropping clues. That’s not classy. That’s messy under the guise of being “classy”. She was shading the Muglers throughout this whole interview but didn’t have the balls to say their name. Destiny Child’s would be ashamed!
No shade, but the tone of the conversation comparing deaths was a BIG "hmm" to me, could have been said better or not brought up at all since it didn't add anything to the way the topic was going......I got what you were saying without going there and in that way..........but overall, his episodes were entertaining
I see the truth comes out she might sit there and try to pretend to be classy but that ulterior motive thing is coming right on now honey before you know it she going to say that she created Vogue watch
Grew up in the 70ds dance area of ballroom, when you went to the white gay club they didn't want you unless it for sex , ballroom places give you a place to dance and build a house or family, if your parents don't want you, it was music and fashion and love, people cared . All good things will end😢
I don't think Honey won many new fans with this vid 🥴...but Dashaun was a class act in getting the girls together - as always! And Honey, GIRL PLEASE 🙄- we all saw how entitled and rude you were to the wardrobe team on Legendary! And we all clapped when Law read thee for FILTH. Period. So I'm sure the girls don't use for a number of reasons...!! And NS I'm glad Dashuan clocked that tea on how the Latino children acted (and some still do act) in racist ways towards the black queens so please continue to school the kids Daedae!
meanwhile they walking THROUGH BLACK ballroom doors. If they 'feelin it' they can create their OWN fkn space and pay it. How is ANYONE walking in anyone elses castle and feeling a way about anything. At this point the Icons need to close the door because WTF
@@pelayo341 then create YOUR OWN space and pay it. WHY do you keep walking through the door if YOU feel youre being shaded and 'robbed' ? ? ? why continue to be 'ROBBED"? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?? ? create YOUR OWN and stop walking in the door! With that attitude and energy you wont be missed. All you did was confirm that YOU ALL have a problem in Black spaces. STOP COMING IN BLACK spaces and feelin a way. GTFo and STAY the Fout
This made me fall in love with honey more. I understand you love. I can't wait to follow my dreams and show ppl even at 36 yrs old I can still make my life great.
Folks who refuses to not take education seriously are the ones missing out. No education, no knowledge of their potential. You can’t blame dude for the work he accomplished because he took education seriously. Not his problem. Personally, folks need to put a copyright on their creation because it’s sad opportunist steal their craft and gets paid.
Dashaun . Props 💪💪💪💪💪💪💪👍👍❤️ Great interview. Honey talent and success breeds contempt, envy and derision. Ignore and do what god blessed u to do. ❤❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️👍👍👍👍💪💪💪💪💪💪 Much love Honey. I pray that u live your best beautiful life. 🙏🙏🙏🙏
Host's job is to soberly moderate, keep convo going, inform audience, listen, maintain mood, etc. stray away from the Drama, let's review and move forward
ummmm his JOB is to do whateverTF he FEELS on HIS podcast. When YOU create YOUR lil podcast then YOU can conduct yourSELF in whatever fashion YOU see fit. If you dont like it leave HIS channel and fix YOUR problem.
yeahhhh but respectfully honey does need to recognize the difference between race and ethnicity. She is a white Latina. But also yes I agree the gatekeeping is bad rn but I think it's mainly come from bitterness of the old generation who had to go about entering the culture the analog way. Ballroom is no longer underground and everyone has to accept it.
she knows the difference but yall have to understand that not every white latina made it from privilege. She’s worked so hard VERY young for her success but we put her down because we’re bitter and refuse to see talent over race.
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came to watch this interview again after seeing honey kill it on the renaissance world tour. so wonderful to see her live her dreams.
Amazing talent! 🐝
Had no idea who he was untill that tour hunty. He is KILLING IT
@@nenala7684She.
Honey is so young, yet SOOOO SMART, DETERMINED, FOCUSED AND TALENTED! She also understands the business and NOBODY is gonna dim her shine! She's on a trajectory up to the stars and I am here for it!!!!
I like Honey she's talented and smart but the only thing would I'd say regarding the hate or backlash she received from the black girls is that History has shown us too often that anything Black folks create can get highjacked depending on who we let in. The Latin girls were in it with us No doubt but when opportunities are being pushed more on that side as well as being pushed as the face of the culture that's when things get Merky and tension builds. As black ppl we tend to Gatekeep because of this, doesn't make our antics right but looking at it through that lends should helps others understand. That's it good interview Dashaun 🖤❤️
Perfect response
I feel That
Before you know it they're going to say that the Vogue started in the UK,,,JS
Wow such a well spoken and empathetic person. Honestly reminds me of myself. Don’t EVER change!!!!!!! I’m 56 and I’m learning to embrace these qualities. People really are insecure and jealous. It has NOTHING to do with you. I’m soooo happy you danced with Beyoncé. The QUEEN recognized your talent! Stay the path!
"Wow such a well spoken and empathetic person. Honestly reminds me of myself" 😂😂😂😂
Love Honey downe, but I don’t think she truly understands the full scope of “privilege” and how it actually has benefitted her. Dashaun did a great job maintaining a “conversation” instead of lecturing her in a way that she probably needs one-on-one and sober. She made some great points, but her worldview just matches the generation she grew up in, and even though it’s not entirely her fault, I hope she someday understands that statements like “it’s your choice! If you have no one on your team and no one working for you, who’s fault is that?” and “I’ve learned the ins and outs of the industry at the age of 16!“ are rooted in privilege and more about access to experiences, than just the delusion that you simply “worked hard for it”. This was a great episode overall.
Well said
"Privilege" is definitely real, however in THIS case I'm not 100% sure that's applicable. Honey is where she is because he's talented and not afraid to take chances. IF anything, being Latina or "passing " was a henderance ESPECIALLY in ball room. Flat out, Honey has IT, And the gurlz can't take.
@@mediainternational2332that part. I would get it if the talent wasn’t there I would get it but she has the talent to deserve what she’s getting now
@@mediainternational2332 she has "it" bc white people like her bc she looks like them lol
@@mediainternational2332girl what? lie again. ballroom has always gave life to mediocre white latinas or whitepassing girls. Honey is far from mediocre but i’m sure she would have still gotten her life just for looking the way she does. Honey has benefited from white privilege her whole career in and outside of ballroom. that is okay to admit!
So glad Honey was able to acknowledge their privilege. Sis is very talented and amazing but we cannot act like their isn’t a mainstream push for Honey due to their “image”
Honey is talented and a hard worker. It's not her fault that these people treat her differently and it's unfair that people are making her apologize for the success she has earned.
Both of these episodes were good & I’m glad Honey was able to clear the air about the rumors. Love the podcast ❤️
The fact that Beyoncé features you so greatly and gave you a great platform! It makes me love her so much more!!
6 months later Honey is doing it 😊😊 so proud of her journey. She’s so talented
"the fact that I knew more than half of y'all and I was half y'all age?"
the proverbial "you", "girls", "they", "you guys","y'all" that honey references is the larger black population in ballroom by the way.
I want to thank Dashaun for hosting this conversation because it illuminates the racial disparity in ballroom, entertainment business and at large the world. the obsession with celebrity, the assumed security in adjacency to the aformentioned (girlfriendism), the viability of ballroom as a reliable source of income for ball walkers of a certain tenure (ageism), I can go on & on.
Honey knowing how to navigate the entertainment industry is not the flex she thinks it is, given that it’s 2023. We are in the age of the social media influencer/personal branding.
The elders she claims to know more than did not exist in a climate where you could monetize and capitalize from social media. Honey is following the blueprint of a social media influencer and flexing like it’s some innovative, ground-breaking approach. When it’s not. You were born at the right time, in the age of social media and information. You’ve followed the path of professional dancers. Ok so what. Clap for yourself I guess. But don’t use that to down other people especially your elders who didn’t have the same opportunities you had.
@@Kufo-Oriji4632 Well said! Plus, the arrogance is pungent. Too much caping and pacifying someone who seems "above it all." Kudos to her accomplishments, but who is she trying to convince? Us or herself?
Honey is delusional and full of herself. She is so disrespectful to the whole community. She is a bad representation of white people. I don’t support her.!
Y’all nailed it on the head. What Honey has in talent, she lacks in other areas like respect, professionalism, etc. This is what happens when someone young who hasn’t learned these things yet or have the life experience yet gets success early. They be speaking out their mouth crazy not realizing the errors in their ways. I hope she does eventually learn & sees these interviews when they’re older & realize how cringe & disrespectful they were coming across at times.
Yeah Deshaun did a hella interview. 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️😎 Love Deshaun.👍❤️👍❤️😎❤️👍❤️😎
I already was 100% a Honey fan, and now I'm 200%! She's so clever and well articulated, an inspiration!
I have so much respect for Honey. She is a boss! And omg it was such a great conversation. I'm so happy to learn more about her story. Truly inspired.
I always loved Honey for her talents, I never had a chance to see her personality, but after seeing her talking so sincerely, I admire her personality too. Has a wise mind at such a young age. She is just amazing and stunning.
I love Honey!!!! "Why are you yelling?" Because the topic deserves it.
Thank you both for sharing your perspective and challenges in rebranding and protecting yourselves!
Slam your back continuously LMAOOOOO
Righttt 😭😭
Amazing talent Miss. Honey! Incredible work in Renaissance. 🐝
She did a basic Vogue not all that different than usual but okay....
@@aavantibeauty Thanks for your honest OPINION 🐝
Dashaun handled this interview really well.
And look at her now touring with Yoncè!!!
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@@egonzalez920 I just know seeing her on stage every week doing dips around the queen has those cast mates she spoke of SHOOK!
Well she's getting scale so okay
@@aavantibeauty what that mean
Dashaun can you please get your Vogue Evolution sista the Iconic Prince Miyake-Mugler on your show. I was heartbroken that Legendary didn’t highlight their story which they should have. It would be great to see you all catch up and hear their story.
ALLEGEDLY: Diego Mugler lost his mother and wasn't granted the same treatment and that was supposedly the reason people were upset.
It’s not alllegdly, Diego Mugler did lost his mother
One the one hand I can understand that if there was different treatment it would be upsetting, however, is that Honey’s fault, or the show’s? Both contestants should have been allowed time to grieve and time to be with their families. It’s disgusting that the show wouldn’t release ANYONE if they had a death in the family. I can’t even imagine that’s actually legal. Maybe Diego needed better advice and support, but that shouldn’t have been on him. At the end of the day, it’s the show’s fault. It’s not Honey who was smart enough to book an agent first who luckily was there to help her through the situation.
I love y’all energy n chemistry, purrrr the icon did it again
Im just learning about Honey from the beyonce tour and from the 1st stop, she caught my eye. I was like who is this girl! She has it! I am learning the good and bad, but overall she is dope.
That ending! 😂 I'm dead! 💀I had no idea Honey went through that on Legendary. That is so intense and she still shined better than anyone. She's an icon!
2023 and honey is performing on stage with beyoncé right now i am so proud of my bebeeee❤
NOT YET is killing me!
I just got to that part. 😂
they way they treated honey (from what she’s saying) was so wrong but i need honey to understand the privilege that she has bc i really don’t think that she grasps the full scope of it
im not taking anything serious she says because at the end of the day WHAT DID SHE DO to solve the division and WHAT DID SHE DO to stop the shade towards black people within Ballroom? Thats the fkn question. She provided NO SOLUTION because she didnt DO ANYTHING TO STOP the shade. Beginning and END of the day, she is there because she WALKED through a Black Ballroom door. Thats it, and thats all
I love Honey down. 😩 She's beyond accomplished. I sometimes just don't know how to interpret her character. She EXUDES confidence, which is great bcs self confidence is key! I'm just not sure if she is self aware?
You said this perfectly. I love Honey. Her star quality is undeniable. Her talent is inspiring. I loved her first interview as she really got to show her humble beginnings. BUT, this interview didn’t portray her in a good light. I’m now starting to see what people mean by her being arrogant. Regardless, she is still young and maturing. She has time to develop a better attitude
She may not even remotely care one way or the other, but with some of this all i can say is thank goodness the interview is with someone who is fond of honey and I keep reminding myself it’s them conversing- but give Dashaun a moment to respond to your points - loud and forceful may look confident but that doesn’t mean correct or informed.
LOVED this conversation!!!
Dashaun saying "all that jazz" had me giggling every time. Fab interview, thank you both ❤
I hope Deshaun interviews Erykah Lanvin because it would be some tea.
I love honey sooooo much! The self assurance and In control type of bitch mindset she has is so inspiring ❤
He deff lost a ‘fan’, she don’t even vogue like that.
Part one was a Kiki part 2 was a bit unhinged but some hard truths came out. We all see the success on social media & stuff but we don’t think of all the negativity that comes with the success especially at a young age. Honey is still growing & I hope they are still able to learn a lot more and not be stunted by the fame.
I totally commend and respect Honey for leaving to handle family business. I think too often we watch tv shows where someone says “_____(insert name of loved one who just passed away) would want me to stay, I’m doing this for him/her.” I get we all handle grief differently and some of us just aren’t as close to our families, but I 10000% would have also found a way to be with my family to grieve and come back if possible!
Confidence isn't loud; it's felt.
Furthermore, the indirect Diego shade is nasty! Also, losing his mother wasn't a cakewalk. So why keep bringing up "comparison"? A loss is a loss - stop, Honey. You can be frustrated and still be fair - that comment was ugly - a significant character flaw.
Leiomy peeped that early!
I agree. The constant Diego and Mugler shade was very uncalled for. I’m not even the biggest fan of the Mugler House. But it is undeniable that they worked their asses off for a well deserved win while having to deal with bereavement. Honey had no reason to shade that talented house. She needs to shade Kelly Gorgeous Gucci who put the information out there to the public ns
And tbh everything Kelly said, came true on the show we all watched. So I have no reason not to believe Kelly or her sources. Looks like she told no lies
@@wondergirl4136 Yes, you’re right! The House of Mugler rightfully won against the House of Balenciaga. Everyone, down to the Father of the house, performed and, like Honey said to Dashaun, “constantly slammed their back.” Even with the critiques, mourning, challenges faced, and biased contracts - they persevered and won! Bravo to them!
Honey’s misdirected anger about contracts should be directed to Kelly, but we all know the girls tread lightly when it comes to her, so she needs to give it a rest if she’s not addressing the original messenger. Her responses seemed very petty because of the faux inspiration and an above it all attitude, which translates as insincere. Self-awareness is truly a skill that not everyone knows.
@@chasingdreams222this screams professional hater
28:10 Watching Honey's journey is beautiful. This is only the beginning 🔟🔟🔟🔟🔟🔟🔟 "THIS IS WHAT I WANT TO SEE"
Kelly was instigating a lot of these Legendary rumours
i wonder how kelly acts when honey is around lool
I don’t blame honey for feeling Hurt and isolated..imagine losing a sibling and u leave to go mourn and then come back and everyone is acting a way to you? I don’t think honey was being malicious she was coming from a place of hurt when retelling the story
But why would the casting people tell them that? What were the casting people saying to everyone else? It sounds like the casting people were trying to set fires and fan flames for entertainment purposes.
@@Random_Identity True. However, real recognize real. He lost his sister, where is the grace. Regardless of whatever people say.
@@brooksinternational4128 I’m not clear on what you mean. This is not to take away from Honey’s experience, but we don’t know what was being relayed to the other contestants in real time.
@@Random_Identity you don’t know how tv works, they do shit like this all the time to stir shit up for more drama. They do evil shit and the process is hell.
@@brooksinternational4128I get y’all are Honey fans but if you’re going to tell it. Tell it all. Yea he lost his sister but Diago or Malik or someone lost their mom/family member too. It’s the middle of the pandemic And they were not allowed to go home to their family and come back. RULES of the show. The rules also was you couldn’t miss a certain amount of days/episode or you or the team would be disqualified. Also, Honey had in his contract that he was going to be their until the end of the show. So with all that. You can see why the other girls felt like she was favored and the Balenciagas was set up to make it to the finale. Honey had a separate everything from the girl. And when it got out. Instead of empathizing with the girls who lost their family member n couldn’t leave The Balenciagas told the girls they should’ve had better contracts. Nobody knew ppl was getting different contracts. That’s not fair at all
Listened to this on spotify but seeing the facial expression made this 10x more enjoyable lmao
I was like DAMN this girl loves to talk about herself because she wouldn’t let Dashaun speak!! She must be a fire sign and little did I know…. lol
Ah girl Honey! I understand both perspectives. Tbh that dynamic is everywhere in life. God bless them and in the meantime keep doin you and be great. 🥰🤩
9:50 nah joke or not she lost me hell nah 😭 and she didn’t want nobody interrupting her while she made a point but she kept cutting Dashaun off
This!!!!
Facts
I liked both interviews, bish got an agent, a team, sis is confident, focused and has a vision. Work 🍯
This is one smart cookie!! This is the kind of person who will last long term! Knows good business and very very talented. Can’t make friends with everyone. It’s business
Respectfully, people hate on Honey for the same reason they hate on Leiomy. They are naturally gifted and have a certain spark that everyone doesn’t have. We’ve seen this story play out time and time again.
This is an outright lie and very disrespectful to Leiomy. Why? Leiomy was shaded and received hate because she was slaying legends and icons. She literally changed the landscape of ballroom by creating iconic moves e.g. the 360 dip and the Lolly. Mind you, most ppl don’t even attempt the Lolly because no one can execute it like Leiomy. She went on a dance show in a time when gay marriage was still illegal in America!! Ballroom was still underground when Vogue Evolution went on that show!! THIS is why the girls hated Leiomy. Now please tell me what impact has Honey caused to bother the girls? What moves has she created? What legends and icons has she beaten? What boundaries has she broken down?
😂😂
@@wondergirl4136 Your response makes me believe you didn't even read my comment. I said they are NATURALLY GIFTED and have a certain SPARK that everyone does not have. I said nothing about impact or creating moves.
I don't understand how that could somehow be interpreted as a goddamn insult. Shit
@@JonathanESmithOfficial I read and understood your comment perfectly well. Please go read your first sentence. That alone was problematic. You said people hate on Honey for the same reasons they hated on Leiomy. That is not true and if you knew ballroom history you would never say that.
Naturally gifted? Most people in ballroom are naturally gifted so why use that as the measure for people who stand out. Provide better reasons to compare Leiomy to Honey. Naturally gifted is a pathetic comparison.
@@JonathanESmithOfficial also tread lightly with your response. I’m an icon in ballroom. Respect your elders
@@wondergirl4136ALL OF THIS‼️
Idk if we can request guests but: Legendary Malik Miyake Mugler, Legendary Sajuan Old Navy, Icon Precious
Okay I just missed malik. Imma get him soon
Whew these comments Chile. Honey spoke Honey’s truth. It’s disheartening that the Legendary experience wasn’t a more loving environment ….but shade will be thrown anytime there is money & a camera involved. Honey is also very young STILL. Y’all ain’t gotta like her to acknowledge how YOU would feel at 19, 20 during a family tragedy but still trying to push & get the work done. There’s room for growth within all of us. And no Dashaun slanderrrrrr will be tolerated 🗣️😂😂
If we’re requesting guests, can you get Cesar from Ballroom throwbacks and even Kelly. Hell I wish we could get MC Debra. Before Legendary, they helped but Ballroom on the map with the content on TH-cam.
The interview was cute but the only issue I have is I don’t like when people act like they are too good for something. Obviously know your worth but don’t act like you’re above the show and then go on the show then act like you don’t need to be here because you’re already successful. It’s like when people say they are bigger than ballroom now so they don’t walk balls anymore but the following week they will be at a ball. Like ok, just let other people profit from the opportunity then.
it wasnt about that nor that at all though. as honey said at 3:27 you dont pay someone below their worth for their talent that that worked hard to showcase to many, and expect them to be okay. its the same as a baker or painter who gives you an amazing piece of work using the finest materials and they’ve perfected their skill,, you arent gonna expect to give them $100 and them be happy.
@@zepies9088 I agree. If she thinks she’s worth a certain amount of money, she should absolutely demand that. I was more so saying I don’t like the “I don’t need to be here” attitude. I just notice a lot of people in ballroom do that and it’s annoying. There’s one person I follow and every other month they post something about not walking balls anymore and being bigger than ballroom or they will tell people to not talk to them about ballroom. Yet they still walk balls. It’s just like humble yourself. If you feel like you’re too good for it, stop walking and give the opportunity to someone that has a passion for it.
Exactly I caught that too it's just like oh I'm too good to be here so I'm going to treat you like dirt even though I want to be here because this is helping my image and helping me be relevant okay.
Honey is the type of girl if she ever helped you out, she would bring it up every time you had an argument can’t stand those types of people
Lol. Do you actually know her? 🤷🏽♂️
Wtf are you talking about 😂. How did you get that out of this video
You are projecting sweetie
Im glad SOMEBODY ELSE picked it up. Shes 'that' type of energy and I dont want it anywhere NEAR me. #OpportunisticAF
Lol. 😂 She’s smart but has a lot of maturing to do. She’ll look back at this interview 5 years from now and cringe but we all grow up.
I think there is a convo that can be had about which opportunities that are presented, to whom and how race impacts that.
That convo requires introspection and honesty, though. It’s a bit ignorant to dismiss how race impacts everything including opportunities.
So, the casting people told you that no one wanted you around? You don’t think they were trying to sow discord to make for more entertainment? Who knows what they were telling the other contestants.
This is not to take away from Honey’s experience in any way, but there needs be some critical thinking about how and why certain things were relayed/presented to the cast as a whole.
I live for Honey Balenciaga/Gonzales and can't wait to see what's next! Great interviews! 💅
Honey Balenciaga is a legenddd🙌 and so smart and compassionate
Smart girl. She knew ballroom was a stepping stone and that’s it! Sounds harsh, but she knew the game exactly for what it is. No formula to it, know what you’re dealing with it. 💕
girl??? hahahahahahah
@@elenikavvadia4202She uses she/her pronouns.
If honey was able to go to her sisters funeral why wasn't diego able to go to his mother's funeral that isnt fair
This was great, Now keep giving us some heavy hitters Tamiyah, Christian Banks, Leiomy, Tati, etc
Honey , You are one Smart person !!! Continue Your journey in life !! I'm going to be 72 on May 20th. 2023 . That is this Saturday, and I would Love for You to Educate Me on Everything Ballroom !! I see that You have " IT" , and You are going to the Stars !! Luv Ya ❤🧡♥️💜💛💚💙🤎🖤🤍🌈
Honey made me fall in love w them after this. As a brown skin Latina Im always being questioned and having to prove I deserve things. Such a Icon already
Her talking about some Latino and black history talking about. Everybody can walk now you don’t even know what you’re talking about you’re so damn disrespectful.
I agree
I don't see it I do not see it.
Please correct if I’m wrong but I think 2023 is Dashaun’s 20th year in Ballroom! Wow… an ICON!! 🫶🏾💕
I’m goin on 24years babes
@@DashaunWesley oh shit that’s amazing 😭💕 definitely an inspiration!!
I am loving for this! Excellent interview style Dashaun! 👏🏾
Honestly I don't like his attitude. He's rude and dismissive. He's using his privilege to control the show. I don't like how he continues to disrespect the host. We let these other girls feel it on our time. This is just sad.
disrespect lol. This interview was far from that….
@@DashaunWesley WHY ARE U DEFENDING HER???? U need to defend the black and brown people who are not represented in ballroom
@@Youralllate lmao I said she didn’t disrespect me and you saying I’m not defining my own people. Lmao leave me alone please…
@@DashaunWesley educate ur “mother” on anti blackness and colourism the “darker” girls as she says and also she is white passing u can be latino and white goofy just as u can be latinx and black do better
@@Youralllate they know each other and r clearly just kiki'ng
Honey does a lot of speaking over the host
its called immature, classless and ignorant. Thats how you act when you dont have the know-how
I have met people like that and that is very annoying it's almost like they don't want you to have anything to say and they don't want you to have a response as if you're just supposed to sit there and listen to them very rude.
31:19 😂😂😂😂😂😂
I just love me some Honey 🥰
Amazing interview ❤
Love you both. Preach! You both see the future, and are amazing leaders for the community, and the change it needs. Live with love, like Honey said. 👍❤️
god i love honey!!! shes well beyond her years
GREAT PODCAST 🙌🏿🙌🏿🙌🏿👍🏿
I knew honey from here and there post on Insta, Twitter, TikTok and etc but fell in loveee. Watching this made me obsessed with honey. Also finding Dashaun is a bonus!!! Loved this video
Not honey lowkey calling out SOMEBODY about the “noguing” and mainstream media noguing. No names need to be said cause it’s obvious. I said what I said 🤷🏽♂️ I’m ready for comments lol
She didn’t call anybody out, she said she doesn’t care when other ballroom girls do.
@@Powerpuff772 do you understand the concept of shade? Just because Honey didn’t explicitly state names, doesn’t mean she didn’t make it clear who she was talking about. Let’s not play dumb.
Honey tried to take the classy route by saying no names all while dropping clues. That’s not classy. That’s messy under the guise of being “classy”. She was shading the Muglers throughout this whole interview but didn’t have the balls to say their name. Destiny Child’s would be ashamed!
tbh this is a good show and givs perspective of a rly cool dans style and comunity love from sweden
Was it a choice or an opportunity. Im confused no shade
FLAT OUT, honey has IT
And the gurlz cant take.
You also didn’t get paid less, you got paid more and had to cover your expenses. Just like everyone else had expenses to cover
she did but go off mr know it all
@@SolanersRevengee you were there? You saw the stubs? Didn’t think so Mr. Delusional Fan!!!
No shade, but the tone of the conversation comparing deaths was a BIG "hmm" to me, could have been said better or not brought up at all since it didn't add anything to the way the topic was going......I got what you were saying without going there and in that way..........but overall, his episodes were entertaining
I see the truth comes out she might sit there and try to pretend to be classy but that ulterior motive thing is coming right on now honey before you know it she going to say that she created Vogue watch
Honey is so well spoken
HONEYYY LEGEND ICON GENIUS
TE AMOOOOO 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥💕🇨🇦
Killing it onnn the Renaissance 🔥🔥
NOOOO CRUMBSSS 🔥🔥🔥🔥
Proud of the elevation of Ballroom and the LGBTQIA community Honey has the Paper part of the game I want him to remember the Gracious part as well!❤
Honey needs to learn how to shut her mouf some time… Still a baby… Humble thy self lil one
take your own advice
oh dont worry. people like her will 'LEARN learn' . . . i've seen a few of 'Her' in my lifetime. Life will TEACH her a quite a few things.
@@tw4943 not a thing moved ..
@@tw4943she on tour with Beyoncé so wa is she gonna learn
Grew up in the 70ds dance area of ballroom, when you went to the white gay club they didn't want you unless it for sex , ballroom places give you a place to dance and build a house or family, if your parents don't want you, it was music and fashion and love, people cared . All good things will end😢
Dashaun in so fuckin cute btw lol! HB is one lil diva and HILARIOUS!
I don't think Honey won many new fans with this vid 🥴...but Dashaun was a class act in getting the girls together - as always!
And Honey, GIRL PLEASE 🙄- we all saw how entitled and rude you were to the wardrobe team on Legendary! And we all clapped when Law read thee for FILTH. Period. So I'm sure the girls don't use for a number of reasons...!!
And NS I'm glad Dashuan clocked that tea on how the Latino children acted (and some still do act) in racist ways towards the black queens so please continue to school the kids Daedae!
and vice versa. the latin girls were unrightfully chopped or robbed in a battle or constantly shaded period
meanwhile they walking THROUGH BLACK ballroom doors. If they 'feelin it' they can create their OWN fkn space and pay it. How is ANYONE walking in anyone elses castle and feeling a way about anything. At this point the Icons need to close the door because WTF
@@pelayo341 then create YOUR OWN space and pay it. WHY do you keep walking through the door if YOU feel youre being shaded and 'robbed' ? ? ? why continue to be 'ROBBED"? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?? ? create YOUR OWN and stop walking in the door! With that attitude and energy you wont be missed. All you did was confirm that YOU ALL have a problem in Black spaces. STOP COMING IN BLACK spaces and feelin a way. GTFo and STAY the Fout
Love you Honey!! Wish my knees was good as yours!!😂😂 Loved when you came down the stairs like a cat!!❤❤😂😂
Honey def hijacked this podcast. both pt1 and pt2 haha
This made me fall in love with honey more. I understand you love. I can't wait to follow my dreams and show ppl even at 36 yrs old I can still make my life great.
Such a great interview
I know the haters are mad rn too cause she’s with bey. Love that for her
I think it's more that she gets privilege due to her skin color and not talent.
Not yet! 😆🤣I love her so much.
Folks who refuses to not take education seriously are the ones missing out. No education, no knowledge of their potential. You can’t blame dude for the work he accomplished because he took education seriously. Not his problem. Personally, folks need to put a copyright on their creation because it’s sad opportunist steal their craft and gets paid.
Honey you do what you do grow learn people with hate to hate you rise and shine july 16 2023
Dashaun . Props 💪💪💪💪💪💪💪👍👍❤️ Great interview. Honey talent and success breeds contempt, envy and derision. Ignore and do what god blessed u to do. ❤❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️👍👍👍👍💪💪💪💪💪💪 Much love Honey. I pray that u live your best beautiful life. 🙏🙏🙏🙏
Well everyone has a moment and it's great to take advantage better now because in a couple of years she's only gonna be a blink in existence.
Girl you sound sad lol
But she on tour duck walking around the Queen
@@IGOTMYSELFASPONSORwasmysong bae on tour.
Dashaun can’t even get in a reply without being interrupted
Let’s not go there.
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@@Powerpuff772 why can’t we go there? Honey was rude. Honey needs some home training because she doesn’t know how to respect her elders.
@@wondergirl4136 you in every comment
@@vonte2415 girl and so what. It’s called giving engagement to this channel so the algorithm can recommend it to new viewers
I’m glad Honey had expressed this . Being young and have made a staple for themselves , I’m proud . Put respect on Honey’s name 🫶🏾
Host's job is to soberly moderate, keep convo going, inform audience, listen, maintain mood, etc. stray away from the Drama, let's review and move forward
ummmm his JOB is to do whateverTF he FEELS on HIS podcast. When YOU create YOUR lil podcast then YOU can conduct yourSELF in whatever fashion YOU see fit. If you dont like it leave HIS channel and fix YOUR problem.
“All of my stunts”
Excellent advice
She smart Love her!
Honey vogued in front of me in line for the bathroom and I’ll never forget ❤❤😍😍😍😍😍
I lovee honeyyyyy so much ❤️❤️❤️
Lmaoooooooooo so crazy I was gonna come to say it’s been 2 weeks now where honey 😭
yeahhhh but respectfully honey does need to recognize the difference between race and ethnicity. She is a white Latina. But also yes I agree the gatekeeping is bad rn but I think it's mainly come from bitterness of the old generation who had to go about entering the culture the analog way. Ballroom is no longer underground and everyone has to accept it.
she knows the difference but yall have to understand that not every white latina made it from privilege. She’s worked so hard VERY young for her success but we put her down because we’re bitter and refuse to see talent over race.