The Forbidden Power of the Heavenly Principles | Genshin Impact Theory

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  • @DragonMJE
    @DragonMJE  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +97

    The following is a list of the major topics cut out from the full video (I might make Part 2 if people like this one):-
    1. The Duality of Pneuma and Ousia and their Relationship with the Chemical (NOT Chymical) Marriage
    2. Advanced look at the Fermi-Dirac Distribution and the Pauli Exclusion principles concerning Atomic Bonding and Energy transfer.
    3. In-depth look at the Sustainer (and Dainsleif… And Zhongli)
    4. Kaeya and Layla (😉)
    5. Hermes Trismegistus and his connection with Genshin Impact’s world.
    6. Solomon Trismosin and his connection with Genshin Impact’s world.
    7. Detailed discussion regarding Rhinedottir. Who she is, and what she wants.
    8. More stuff about Daoism (Taoism).
    9. The connections of the Crimson Moon to Fate and the Sun (very important actually).

    • @L16htW4rr10r
      @L16htW4rr10r 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      Dang, all of them sounds really cool

    • @rakanmohanna9098
      @rakanmohanna9098 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ‏‪3:38‬‏ ‏‪3:38‬‏ ‏‪3:38‬‏

    • @rakanmohanna9098
      @rakanmohanna9098 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ‏‪3:38‬‏ ‏‪3:38‬‏ ‏‪3:38‬‏

    • @rakanmohanna9098
      @rakanmohanna9098 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      K

    • @xpearlx
      @xpearlx 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      These all sound interesting

  • @MonaBread
    @MonaBread 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +58

    “Incest is bad BUUUT” that’s a worrying start

    • @Kyosukedono
      @Kyosukedono 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Incest is bad because it leads to inbreeding.
      If you can't have children though wether naturally or artificially, then idgaf. You do you.

  • @EmperorMist
    @EmperorMist 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +135

    bro i just literally watched an elden ring analysis on the twin nature of elden lord placidusax and marika with radagon

    • @Sacration
      @Sacration 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      😭😭👌

    • @RukkhaRukkha
      @RukkhaRukkha 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      21:18 The world is a cycle.

  • @SOLEILunae
    @SOLEILunae 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +78

    That opening line is crazy 😂💀 good theory though

    • @somedragonbastard
      @somedragonbastard 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      I just started the video and I had to immediately pause and check the comments, I was so confused why THAT would be thr opening line

    • @amouramarie
      @amouramarie 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      The fact that he felt he had to preface _a theory video_ with a disclaimer like that shows how unhinged some people have gotten 😬

    • @nicolas._.2294
      @nicolas._.2294 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      I mean there are people shipping lumine and Aether
      And Klee and Albedo
      And other unholy things ​@@amouramarie

    • @amouramarie
      @amouramarie 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@nicolas._.2294 Okay? Game of Thrones had scenes of a brother and sister doing it doggy style. It's fiction. It's not supposed to be constrained to normality.

  • @SumiSakurasawa-uv1yt
    @SumiSakurasawa-uv1yt 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +50

    When your friend who is new to the game asks you "So what's Genshin Impact all about?"
    Tag them this: 9:10

    • @nicolas._.2294
      @nicolas._.2294 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I am lost

    • @OrkOfOhio
      @OrkOfOhio 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I love that I understood every word.

  • @HyruIia
    @HyruIia 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +60

    Traveler and Paimon are always portrayed as the Sun and the Moon by many NPCs, so it's most likely that in this last samsara the chemical marriage will be involving these two Still he needs the three other moons to complete the ascension and replace the Primordial One as the new creator of the world.

    • @F1ll1nTh3Blanks
      @F1ll1nTh3Blanks 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      If this is true then we need to meet Ishtaroth, Barbeloth and one other.

    • @HyruIia
      @HyruIia 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      @@F1ll1nTh3Blanks Barbeloth is an Hexenzirkel member, not one of the shades.

    • @F1ll1nTh3Blanks
      @F1ll1nTh3Blanks 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      @@HyruIia That's what you think. 😏
      I am starting to come round to the idea that she's both, or at least incredibly closely linked to them.

    • @captaindanger13
      @captaindanger13 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@HyruIia i was gonna say the same thing but both their names end in "oth" which looks suspicious.....

    • @xingqiu1809
      @xingqiu1809 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@HyruIia she could be one of the shades and a hexenzirkel member tho, we do not have much info about that organization atp so it's ok to theorize for fun

  • @NatureWatcher343
    @NatureWatcher343 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +118

    If the Sustainer is the 2nd Descender then that would actually explain why she was able to take on Lumine and Aether both at full power.

    • @OffLunds
      @OffLunds 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      Dawg she was toying around with them as u could see the way she was using barely 5% of her ability

    • @Pre4xes_
      @Pre4xes_ 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

      @@OffLundsthe siblings were not at full power I think because in their characters cards(or something else) it says that they will ascend to the seat of god, which probably means they’ll be more powerful

    • @OffLunds
      @OffLunds 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@Pre4xes_ True

    • @kaimilize8328
      @kaimilize8328 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Second descender is Nibelung, the second throne, the dragon king

  • @ReverseElectro
    @ReverseElectro 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +68

    The more I watch the more I am amazed with how similar Genshin's use of the Rebis is to Elden Ring's.

  • @emery120
    @emery120 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +63

    Watching your videos makes my mind feels like it's in a washing machine.
    You're one of the two Genshin theorists I watch and seeing your theories makes Ashikai's theories seem like a gentle morning breeze.
    This is a compliment btw I love using my mind gear to understand it all.
    Looking forward for the next washin machine session (aka the next elaborated theory vid that could be part 2 of this)

    • @captaindanger13
      @captaindanger13 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

      so true. here i was thinking ashikai's theories were super complex and then this guy's like "hold my beer." lol

    • @ShirouE
      @ShirouE 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

      I genuinely cannot think of another TH-camr who connects so many complex concepts into a coherent topic about Genshin Impact. Even if his theories are wrong, the topics he talks about are extremely insightful towards how Hoyoverse develops the game's story.

  • @sMv-Afjal
    @sMv-Afjal 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    Here my extemsion to your theory:
    1st Descender : PO (Phanes + 4 Shades)
    2nd Descenser : Sustainer + Dragon King Nibelung
    3rd Descender : Dianslief + Paimon
    4th Descenser : Aether + Luminue
    Here my reasoning for sustainer, the Dragon King must have found her in the abyss, the Night Mother. The queen of the abyss, the forbidden knowledge.
    He recurited her to fight for her, completing her Yin with Yang. This could explains why the coming of 2nd Descender and Dragon King could be at same time without The Dragon king being the descender.
    During the fight between second descender and PO, the shades were destoryed except Istroth. The Dragon king sealed not killed to prevent recarnation and know we know as the sinner.
    Phanes manipulated and decieved the Sustainer and use her as his shade (his yin which was destoryed). Though it doesn't grant their orginal strength.
    When the third descender came, Phanes killed him and used his body to create gnosis and gather enough power resurrect his shades and regain his absolute authority.
    When the sustainer fought the twins during the cataclysm, she was healed by the traveller power somewhat, that why she didn't kill the twins and seal the traveller after she realizied this only after obtianing the abyss twin power which is like all element combined like the Dragon King. She then confronted Phanes and was sealed. This is why the heavenly principle is silent. Phane is too broken.
    Though I cannn't say anything about the battle pass cutscene.

  • @nuguya-2
    @nuguya-2 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +44

    If the Gnosis is the 3rd Descenders remains and the Gnosis are all different elements.
    That means the 3rd Descender is just like the Travelers who is able to use all Seven Elements.
    That would mean the 1st Descender Heavenly Principles and 2nd Descender are just like the Traveler and the 3rd Descender.
    That's why in the beginning of the game the Twins were stopped from leaving by the SUSTAINER of Heavenly Principles...
    The Sustainer's job is to SUSTAIN or MAINTAIN the Heavenly Principles keep them in place.
    Her line, "The arrogation of mankind," was directed at the twins who we thought are "Gods." But, what if they were never "Gods."
    What if all Four Descenders were Rebis. Making both Twins MCs because they both have Light and Darkness.
    A Rebis is a reunion of opposing qualities such as spirit and matter or male and female, represented by an androgynous being.
    Thus, if you pick Lumine your opposing qualities is Aether (Abyss), and if you pick Aether your opposing qualities is Lumine (Abyss).
    I believe this is why Albedo thought of both Twins (depends on who you picked) as the same as him. Because Albedo is on the 2nd of Magnum Opus.
    Thus making Teyvat nothing but a LAB, and everything in it Lab RATS.

  • @owohscorner
    @owohscorner 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    Since Lunine has the Inteyvat in her hair, i hope we get some information on the feather in Aether's hair

  • @DrakeWurrum
    @DrakeWurrum 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Oh my god. I was going to bring up King Deshret, the scarlet king who is often delicted by a sun, and Nabu Nalikata, for whom Deshret built the City of the Moon Maiden...
    And there you are hinting at it.

  • @alexprus7953
    @alexprus7953 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    5:20 The line "a monster that will devour the world in a single bite" is very interesting when you consider the theories from your Angel's Egg video. Would this imply that the Traveller will eat the Egg that represents Teyvat? Or if the world is a dream, then maybe they'll eat the dreamer? Like a certain "Emergency Food" for example 🤔

    • @DragonMJE
      @DragonMJE  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yea, I thought about that. I might discuss it in the future.

  • @fandomcake5158
    @fandomcake5158 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    IDK man this theory got alot of Alabama meme potential.
    Kidding. I think the concept of duality being so big in this game helps this argument.

  • @NatureWatcher343
    @NatureWatcher343 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    Wait... Wth did i just watch this is a masterpiece. Well done

  • @rue1533
    @rue1533 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    I love how you used einstine in the first clip to justify incest, a man who married his cousin

  • @CarlosAnglada
    @CarlosAnglada 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Extraordinary. This lines up almost perfectly with Ashikai's latest video.

  • @jairverplaats153
    @jairverplaats153 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    It boggles my mind that you haven't surpassed 10k subs. You been dropping bangers on a consistent basis, keep it up! And happy holidays

  • @notbubblystarters05
    @notbubblystarters05 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Well, it would make sense that the Twins are the Ying and Yang. *I mean, just invert both their clothes' colors and you'll get the other twin's color scheme.* Not to mention in Aether's dark clothing, there's a hint of white and in Lumine's light clothing, there's a spot of black. As they really couldn't exist without each other. I know it may be crazy, but Hoyoverse is well known for going big or going home, thus I always had the nagging suspicion that the Traveler might merge with someone in the future. Though I can't decide if it'll be their twin (to stay together forever and be androgynous befitting the requirement in Alchemy) or Paimon (just because it's been redundantly emphasized that she's our food to be devoured one day maybe as her sacrifice in order to protect us). But it's pretty out there, so I dunno.

  • @winner23746
    @winner23746 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Merry Christmas 🎅

  • @Ulquiorra_Cifer
    @Ulquiorra_Cifer 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    what a start for a video

    • @rajaryan-fe1oy
      @rajaryan-fe1oy 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      21st century you can never be too safe

  • @Charlez_Ink
    @Charlez_Ink 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Surprised you didn’t mention that albedo, Rhinedottir’s creation, looks like an androgynous combination of aether and lumine

    • @kotarouinugami1745
      @kotarouinugami1745 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      And Albedo is definitely "white". So he can work as "white queen" to Twins' "gold king".

  • @bawilove3422
    @bawilove3422 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    My name for now gave us a Christmas present..

  • @benedictyau
    @benedictyau 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    Excellent theory as always. The more I watch your theories, the more I think you would really like the Toaru Majutsu no Index light novels. Also Merry Christmas 🎉

  • @ericsigil
    @ericsigil 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +34

    Aparently, falling in love in Teyvat is a curse on itself 🤔🤔

    • @SumiSakurasawa-uv1yt
      @SumiSakurasawa-uv1yt 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      Actually this might be true

    • @emery120
      @emery120 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      Hoyoverse loves to make couples go through hell and back in all of their games so I guess it's just as expected coming from them

    • @kotarouinugami1745
      @kotarouinugami1745 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I guess that explains why no playable characters are in a relationship. Apart from metagame thoughts like "Mihoyo is in business of selling waifus/husbandos".

  • @persephone_8949
    @persephone_8949 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I wanna randomly add that the concept of femenine/masculine counter parts is widely studied in psychology.
    As the basis, a person shares both male and female chromosomes.
    Later becoming one or the other.
    Psychology, when coming across a person with issues regarding identity or issues against identity, it is believed that its causes by the imbalance of male/female inside said person.
    Only when said balance is achieved a person can find comfort. (Example: a person finding comfort in the opposite gender, a person finding comfort in being masculine/femenine, etc.)
    Just a curious thought that even psychologically, there's a small truth to be applied

  • @imgolb
    @imgolb 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    I one agree with the title, i also have reason to believe( from exploring the desert) that There’s an 8th element of light. The element the sustainer of heavenly principal uses, and from using the light element weilders are able to manipulate anemo, pyro, cyro, dendro, electro,hydro, and geo without a vison. Which would connect to another theory i heard about traveler having light elemental

    • @imgolb
      @imgolb 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      In one of King deshrets temples ( idk if that is spelled correctly) He has trap mechanisms that open up to a glowing white cube ( light elemental?) And from that glowing white cube dark red cubes that look TOO similar to the heavenly principals cube are projecting from the glowing white cube dealing Pyro damage. Like how in the beginning cutscene where the twins are fighting the sustainer and she summons a white light cube that ends up turning into that dark red elemental cube. ( Pyro Cube really)

    • @imgolb
      @imgolb 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      and then thinking about the bigger picture, king deshert temples uses technology like traps that manipulate/ is that light element. The “ light” element / the sustainers power is the forbidden knowledge

  • @sylvarogre5469
    @sylvarogre5469 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

    But, Canotila sees things BACKWARDS. She thinks void hounds are cute puppies, and a ruined world is a pleasant meadow, and a sundered, blackened sky is a sunny day. That means her description of the Traveler & Paimon are also BACKWARDS.🤔

    • @DragonMJE
      @DragonMJE  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +22

      The Melusines, including Canotila, perceive the world differently due to their unique eyesight, which allows them to see the true nature of things. It's not a matter of seeing things backward; rather, their special vision reveals a different perspective. In the case of the Rifthound that attacked the Traveler, it appeared as a dog because it embodies the 'Will' of Carter, as expanded on in Jakob Baker's note near the Sunflowers.
      In other words, a Melusine's eyes will show her a different perspective of the world (Traveler and Paimon included) not a wrong or "backwards" perspective. In that sense, the Traveler being a terrible monster makes sense as he has the potential to become a supreme divinity.

  • @rezw667
    @rezw667 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    THANKS for fueling my albedo x mona agenda, theyre a walking instance of masculine sun x feminine moon

  • @herrschersfool
    @herrschersfool 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    you know that Primordial human reminds me a hell of a lot of Hells Paradise. Such a good anime. would recommend it heavily if anyone hasn’t seen!

    • @DragonMJE
      @DragonMJE  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      You mean the Lord Tensen?

    • @herrschersfool
      @herrschersfool 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@DragonMJE yes!

  • @adora_burst8143
    @adora_burst8143 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    with how the intro to this video started, I would've thought this would've been a Coffin of Andy and Leyley theory and not a Genshin one.

  • @Argenttttttt
    @Argenttttttt 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    all i heard was my chemical romance

  • @hainguyenthanh8601
    @hainguyenthanh8601 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    "You might be only one of countless stars, but you're Paimon's whole world". Well this is awkward

    • @DragonMJE
      @DragonMJE  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Yea, it appears that the story is going in a direction where Paimon will slowly replace the Traveler's sibling. The only issue is that I am not sure if she is doing it innocently or as part of a malevolent plot.

    • @hainguyenthanh8601
      @hainguyenthanh8601 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@DragonMJE Recent dialogue suggest she not making much head way in convincing the traveler to stay in teyvat without the other sibling approval

  • @AstraLuna-o9i
    @AstraLuna-o9i 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I was not disappointed that we are talking about alchemy and you included clips from FMA Brotherhood. Great theory, just curious tho, who the hell in the sinner?

  • @theundertaker4797
    @theundertaker4797 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Great theory video!! Also got to see Elden ring and AC Mirage bg music in a genshin theory video 😭😭.

  • @HELiXDzn123
    @HELiXDzn123 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Master of cooking, although I have one suggestion try flattening your voiceover from stereo to mono. These videos are always great just that one thing stuck out and bothered me. Looking forward to the next one

  • @doombringerson
    @doombringerson 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I can’t tell if you’re creating insanely far fetched theories out of thin air, or if you’ve done so much real history and mythology research that it’s just that obvious to you. either way, great job, can’t wait for more!

    • @DragonMJE
      @DragonMJE  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Game theories are made for entertainment purposes not educational ones. While I do try to include some useful facts and real-life information, the primary goal is to explore "what if" scenarios in the game and hopefully give the viewers something to enjoy and think about.

  • @HuyNguyen-kc6qd
    @HuyNguyen-kc6qd 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    this man is cooking

  • @anaveragehuman1645
    @anaveragehuman1645 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    amazing video! buuuut i do have one thing to add: at 23:11, it's mentioned that the travellers are identical twins. if we go by normal biological laws, they can't be because identical twins are always of the same gender (they came from the same egg that split so y'know...); they're probably fraternal twins instead. idk if this is relevant to any theorising but i just wanted to point it out :D
    of course, they might not even be human in which case what i've said doesn't even matter lol
    thank you again for the video and happy new year to everyone :)

    • @DragonMJE
      @DragonMJE  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      I meant it in the sense of having extremely similar characteristics and properties not in the conventional dizygotic and monozygotic definitions. However, I should be a little more careful with the definitions I suppose. Regardless, we don't need to worry about the diversity of the placental and amniotic arrangements of Aether and Lumine. They are likely not humans at all (if they are then they have some kind of divine blessing).

    • @anyanP
      @anyanP 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Solution: both are intersex, one presenting masc and one presenting femme

    • @kotarouinugami1745
      @kotarouinugami1745 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@anyanP And normally, they change which is which at least once a week. Which is why Traveller refuses to wear any other outfit than his starting one.

  • @AHAB-conscious
    @AHAB-conscious 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    man, i was listening this in the backstory, it sounded like i was at a very sketchy church. ( but made more sense than anyone could have been)

  • @mrswhiddleberry
    @mrswhiddleberry 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    this theory and the energy used to deliver it is immaculate

  • @1cook1e
    @1cook1e 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I have to mention that io io pan and that whole phrase, as is also mentioned in game, is taken exactly from the story of Ajax, it’s the part when he’s faking being nice to the gods just before he kills himself

  • @paulamblard3836
    @paulamblard3836 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Why Lumine x Aether, when for the white, Paimon seams mush more corresponding ?
    The sibling was also describe as "golden nara" in the Aranyaka quest, so can not be the white that merge with gold.

  • @osmial
    @osmial 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    To me Paimon is most likely the God of Fate who rules over teyvat and is probably what the functions ruined neuvillette talked about
    After our talk with Nicole in fontaine i just thought she just mentioned that "only fate shall serves as your guide" as if she knew what traveler's fate would be or where it is leading them and conveniently Paimon leads them throughout the game wherever she wants us to go
    And remember the Roots cycle thing? Isn't it odd that we are exploring it backwards? And suspiciously if we trace everything back we can see the memories of our sibling idk why but we may be going back to past after the series of teyvat to witness everything and fix the whole thing
    Also remember i said Paimon's power might be the function that was ruined? Well if the fate of the world if ruined then wouldn't it be correct to say that the world is facing so many events of the same level as in past?
    3 major events Primordial one arrival and fight with dragons,the war of vengeance,archon war
    Then there's mid level events
    every thousand year ago a big figure doing something unexpected (this is a bit difficult to say because there's not much known about civilizations of teyvat)
    Well im mentioning this because every thousand year or so a civilization has fallen
    For example
    Remus and Remuria
    King deshret and his civilization
    King irmin and Khaenri'ah
    So far these are the known one's that falled and their kings name are known there's also this dragonspine one but idk it's kings name
    Lastly the minor events these events happens every 500yr
    This is why i think the fate of the teyvat in this cycle is most likely unpredictable but if not saved it would cost everything

    • @osmial
      @osmial 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      As for dainsleif being 3rd idk man dude doesn't even look like one his history is rather simply explained a knight of khaenri'ah who got cursed then slowly erased his memory to lessen the burden

    • @osmial
      @osmial 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      And for sustainer being 2nd? Nah man she is most likely the last remaining shade or the one who can use her power's rn but one thing is sure we have to save her since she is sustainer of the principals her death might result in things that would not be a good thing to know

  • @catz1235
    @catz1235 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I appreciate the subtitles, thank you!

  • @3u760
    @3u760 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This is my opinion:
    I always thought that PO related to the gnostic syzygy,
    so about the yin and yang thing, I think it's the human realm itself, which is when the light realm and abyss realm met, and the very reason why samsara is happening (human realm = samsara)
    And I think in the beginning, it's PO (or light?) That came to the abyss realm (night mother's land) and did that phanes thing
    So,
    PO = syzygy
    Phanes = snake = demiurge
    Istaroth = sophia
    Istaroth always tends close to the abyss (istaroth went to enka, lumine become the abyss princess) and her jesus keep getting replaced by the wrong one (demiurge)
    like aether should've been with lumine but his partner is paimon instead (istaroth from the previous one?)
    I think the chymical marriage is a fraud, in a sense that it's just a mortal desire(?)

  • @mizukiNoellemain
    @mizukiNoellemain 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    your music choices never miss damn

  • @jollyhomse5129
    @jollyhomse5129 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    What are you saying essentially is very similar to the lore of lord of the mysteries, a very famous web novel in china it's actually crazy, i guess both parties take inspiration from the same chinese roots it's amazing, and i highly recommend reading it or searching it.

  • @iseuls
    @iseuls 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    union of two? like that one joke in HSR "heliobic homogenization"?

  • @theorize999
    @theorize999 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    i usually like your videos a lot, I still liked this one but it was REALLY hard to follow, Some mind maps would have helped a lot on this one because of all the circular reasonings, I’m going to have to watch it a few times since this is one of my favorite genshin topics. merry christmas and thanks for all the hard work you clearly put into it! 🎉

  • @elienasoleil
    @elienasoleil 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    didnt philospher's stone was mentioned in the fontaine weapon ascension material's description?
    “Combining the immortal stone with the Ichor essence extracted from primordial water, and carved into a race as black as iron - with arcane lithos for skin and Ichor for blood, never again fearing the curse of returning to the primeval past...” Goblins with black skin? Doesnt that sound like hilichurls?? If so then they must have made by ichor (which is described as blood of gods) and arcane lithos (mysterious stone= immortal stone) sounds pretty much like philosopher’s stone. Which is said to contain elixir of life.
    So we already knew that hilichurls existed before khaenriah war too its just that their population exploded afterwards BUT Dain said only those who carry the blood of other nations turned into hilichurls while the real khaenriah people were cursed with immortality.
    In Fontaine chapter we witnessed how people dissolved into water and it only affected Fontainians because they were ocenaids that turned into humans by Egeria, using primordial sea. Once their artificial bodies touch the primordial sea water their physical body couldn’t hold longer and turned into its original form. So what if; what happened in khaenriah was something similar? What if people underground of Teyvat and on the ground were made of different materials maybe also by different entities?
    In Enka we were introduced to a new race; vishap people. Which are vishaps who gradually evolved into humans. They are described as; “over time the forms of the Vassals of Watatsumi gradually became more identical to humans, to the point that the only trait distinguishing the Vassals of Watatsumi from normal humans was their snake-like pupils.” Which is interesting cause another race that is distinguishable by their pupils are the people of Khaenriah. Their pupils are four-pointed stars (like primogems). Could their origins be a different type of animal or beast that later on evolved into a human?(Maybe a star beast O-o). Hence they did not turn into goblins as they werent one from the start. Only humans under the rule of Celestia turned into hilichurls. Though here in the text, usurper that is mentioned is Remus as far as I understood and he probably is not the Phanes but maybe he used the same method Phanes did to create humans. He just did not have the power to create them in their homo sapiens form. Maybe lacked a specific ingredient who knows.
    The real question is: in Fontaine, nation of hydro that is built on a waterfall, disaster struck in form of flood (tho nothing happened because hydro dragon forgave their sins) in what possible form it might have struck in khaenriah that it effected all who were in there? Specially in an underground kingdom? I lowkey wanna imagine that they were washed by blood of the gods like their blood rained down on them (ehe) but that sounds unlikely.

  • @blooming-wonder
    @blooming-wonder 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    i just woke up and one of few sentences i heard after waking up, "incest is bad, but-" 😭

  • @3u760
    @3u760 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Okay, (sorry I still thinking about this 🙏)
    So at first, I kind of went " :/ " when you said sustainer is the night mother,
    I personally still think night mother ≠ sustainer (because I think night mother is the abyss itself) BUT, sustainer might've been the 'heir' of night mother.
    I have more speculations, but I will say my bit here:
    Irmin is the first divine halberd, fischl is the last divine halberd. (legend of shattered halberds)
    -Irmin = the king of the underworld/khaenri'ah (probably red king)
    -Irmin = phanes
    -Fischl = nyx that came from phanes
    In flowers for princess fischl terms:
    -Kaiserin = night mother (that came from chaos/nothing)
    -Kaiser = god-king?/irmin?/narfi?
    -Fischl = nott (fischl's complete name has 'Narfidort' in it)
    --
    "Are not dragons and snakes kin?"
    I think dragons ≈ snakes, and it's probably underworld / overworld situation. (ad astra abyssosque)
    We have god-king (?) that sent crown heirs to the kingdom of darkness. And I think the antithesis of this god-king is the kings we're familiar with (red kings/PO evil twin)
    So like,
    PO = king in the heaven
    evil PO = the snake
    Like for example, deshret refuse to be, an archon(??) from celestia (and he was the son of the sky). Instead, he made his own domain in sumeru with GoF (underworld/earth)
    (Also remember that we're like deshret according to liloupar)
    And there's GoF, who's from the sky too, but then she fell/casted away (istaroth/sophia), and then befriended deshret. Now, if you remember what traveler think about GoF's appearance, she kinda sounds like the night mother from the pale princess book.
    (Also, I recommend re-reading the riddles from vol. 5 of byakuyakoku collections, especially no. 6)
    So basically, I think sustainer and the other girls (istaroth/istaroth's clones) are like fischl.
    (I could elaborate more but I'll write it like this for now)

    • @3u760
      @3u760 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      About the descenders, I have some ideas. But maybe I'll wait for your sustainer/dainsleif video first.
      If I had to share my thoughts a bit:
      -I actually also thought that dainsleif is a /descender/.But to say that he was which one (1,2,3) I don't really want to point (for some reason I thought that he's a failed descender, probably the game won't agree). But the way people & you speculate how the 3rd descender had been is probably because infos from the leaks, right?
      -Istaroth was 'lying' about the beginning of teyvat (I'm saying the numeration of 1/2/3/4 descenders is deliberate, probably just to make things neat for us)
      -also maybe consider pangu, purusha, ymir (venti said in genshin manga), they sounds like the 3rd descender
      -probably, 1/2 descenders had experienced what the 3rd descender had (and maybe us will too, the way paimon concerned about us being killed to bits like the 3rd was)

    • @3u760
      @3u760 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Also about rebis, if it's about the sun + moon,
      does eclipse count?
      like, the eclipse (black sun) dynasty?
      the khaenri'ah dynasty?

  • @throwaway6065
    @throwaway6065 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I enjoy that you post regularly, thank you for that. However, I have a little situation, your videos are often hard to understand... I catch a something here and there but I get lost, there's just a lot

  • @richardjones8846
    @richardjones8846 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    "incest is bad"
    andy and leyley enjoyers: say what now?

  • @dreadknight5525
    @dreadknight5525 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    if i remember correctly Morax also gets called as a woman and accepting gifts of perfume and something else but it was in a book called Rex Incognito that would make him androgynous and also make him a descender ?

  • @TheKnizzine
    @TheKnizzine 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Anytime you are talking about dietys or royaltee incest should be assumed.

  • @munchielitten5961
    @munchielitten5961 29 วันที่ผ่านมา

    They wont just date they will be bith be rulers to keep things intact and lumine may end up wacthing over as the shades of all teyvat including kheanriah and paimon may be the new rukkadevata

  • @SHAW_777
    @SHAW_777 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Incest is bad buttt.( damn I spitted my water through my nose).

  • @iColm
    @iColm 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    The stone itself is created multiple ways, generally through interaction between two being caught as a product. The sect of philosophy is just philosophy and is somewhat unrelated to the stone. The stone does as suggested and has the power as a non visible spiritual item that can change the world around you. Creation defines possibility meaning not all do the same thing. Example one I know of changes time around the owner who has it in their brain. The other is more complicated as a marriage contract different than what we'd understand. The others are more simple and the contract is eating you to form in your body. They can keep shape or dissolve into something like blood. Furthermore if there is a host spirit it will stay with you. Alkahest can remove these but not easily.

  • @Indian_gae_boii
    @Indian_gae_boii 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    According to the aranara weapons, it was two of the moon who fought eachother, the third moon didn't fight at all and was just kinda sad throughout the event, so maybe theres a chance shes still alive and maybe its paimon?

  • @Skylight-nn9cl
    @Skylight-nn9cl 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Idk about that part invovling Dain and Paimon tbh. It kinda could work, but the fact that Paimon's name is so close to the Primordial One makes me believe otherwise. It is also possible that her name could just be a red herring, but still, the fact that she has the symbol on her outfit that means True/Real, basically the same meaning the word Genshin has, to me she is the Primordial One using the Traveler in some way to regain her full power.
    So Dain could possibly be talking about the Sustainer. We know that she is fading away. We may find out that she is corrupted due to the markings we saw on her arms, which is killing her, and will want to save her in the end.

    • @SumiSakurasawa-uv1yt
      @SumiSakurasawa-uv1yt 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      You are missing massive context to what the OP said in the video. There is a set of unreleased items (leaked since patch 1.2 I think) that essentially confirm Dain is either the Third Descender or someone heavily related to them. The OP already made two videos (the two recent theories) talking about all of the connections that Dain has with the Third Descender and it is actually mindblowing once you put it all into perspective.
      Although he never mentions the leaked items because... They are leaks I guess so he does not want to talk about them.

    • @Skylight-nn9cl
      @Skylight-nn9cl 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@SumiSakurasawa-uv1yt Hmm, he's probably related, and not actually the 3rd. The 3rd descender is dead (as far as we can understand by what Skirk meant by "remains" in regards to the Gnosis). But what does what you said have to do with Paimon being or not being the PO? 🤔

    • @AndrewsMobs
      @AndrewsMobs 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Skylight-nn9cl Paimon is affected by Irminsul so not a descender

  • @tuguldurdesu7274
    @tuguldurdesu7274 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Omg yes

  • @Skylight-nn9cl
    @Skylight-nn9cl 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Ayo!?? Nah, I'm Subscribing.

  • @Tsukkiinnaart
    @Tsukkiinnaart 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    16:37 emotional damage 😀

  • @phoenix221186
    @phoenix221186 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Was waiting for the momment when he compares the abyss to Alabama 🤣🤣

  • @lumierremaria9460
    @lumierremaria9460 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    10:29 - 10:49 It runs in the family

  • @bronyationstudios1166
    @bronyationstudios1166 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I really like your theory videos: they are comprehensive and contain a lot of interesting information. But I wish you could keep a more uniform and "professional" tune of voice. When you get excited you begin to shout and it makes understanding what you speak much harder.

  • @kyoga5714
    @kyoga5714 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    "incest is bad" you say? do you also believe that water is wet? the sky is blue? 9/11 even.

    • @Infelious
      @Infelious 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      depends rich people don't seem to learn this obvious lesson, especially royals.

  • @hanryo08
    @hanryo08 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    very amusing, u got a new subscriber

  • @Razor3000-u3f
    @Razor3000-u3f 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hold on...then don't we have two types of marriage then? Red Queen & White King and White Queen & Red/Golden King? Or did I miss something?

  • @paraalemdossonhos7507
    @paraalemdossonhos7507 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Well. That the goddess is the mother of the night is associated from the beginning of the game, where she and the Herrscher of void are counterparts. Being Kiana, all her versions of herrschers fit.
    I already commented in another video about the twins being incarnations of Phanes. As in the tale of the tree, it said that the king needed to repair the beams of the pavilion. Most likely he needed to sacrifice the Seelie to repair himself or even the moons after the war ( or the goddess betrayed her sisters possessed by the power of the abyss, killing one and the other disappearing).
    Deins didn't want to lose the Seelie and somehow Istaroth (rukadevata) taught him how to protect the Seelie. I don't think it's Paymon, the story about the tree suggests that something similar to what happened Nahida happened to Seelie and she is living a new sansara. Istaroth and Paymon fought against the goddess and Istaroth dies and is reborn as Rukadevata and Paymon just as Gouba is reduced.
    Maybe Phanes died and was reborn in the twins, Paymon is Lucifer's faithful demon: Phanes/Aether/Lumine, Eosphorus, Phosphorus, all similar names. Paymon is among the goddesses he served Phanes in a different way.

  • @coca9152
    @coca9152 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    bro your pronunciations are PEAK

  • @BStone-bm9tw
    @BStone-bm9tw 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Bro was cooking today 🗿

  • @atsuyatakashi4832
    @atsuyatakashi4832 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Did you said diluc said cyno stole forbidden knowledge and cyno Said diluc is in relationship with abyss order

  • @munchielitten5961
    @munchielitten5961 29 วันที่ผ่านมา

    So lumine is going to die just like narzkizkras so dain wants us to save her

  • @voshadxgathic
    @voshadxgathic 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Me who immediately knew this was going to be about a Lumine/Aether ship... Sigh. Bloody shippers gotta make it weird.
    Interesting note, while most of the world agrees that it is bad, there's still a few countries where it's perfectly legal, some completely, others with various restrictions. Of course, there's some overlap with anti-gay countries and certain acts, so there's actually more restrictions than might be mentioned in those particular laws. Some get strangely very specific in the details, which I suppose is good for legal clarification, but it makes one question how they drew the lines where they did.

  • @maiafay
    @maiafay 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Weren’t the moon sisters before Phanes? The timeline is very odd.

    • @DragonMJE
      @DragonMJE  10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      They are older than Morax. We have no clue if they are actually older than Phanes and tbh it is unlikely.

  • @charroboo
    @charroboo 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    It's ok guys. We will get a free 4* skin of our choice in 4.4. so anything except the Diluc skin

    • @amer2142
      @amer2142 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      uhhh

  • @Tsukkiinnaart
    @Tsukkiinnaart 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Sooo, we're going to marry paimon?

  • @munchielitten5961
    @munchielitten5961 29 วันที่ผ่านมา

    So could lumine not be aethers actual sibling and shes his adopted step sister and she can be dated???

  • @Owudukan
    @Owudukan 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    " Incest is bad "
    The mcs are siblings and from greek mytholagy 🤡
    THIS COUD POSSABLE NOT GET IN ANY WIRD DIRACTION

    • @Pre4xes_
      @Pre4xes_ 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Lmao
      Canon is greek mythology so why not in Genshin?🗿🗿

  • @beashemmad.sayson545
    @beashemmad.sayson545 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Where is 16:36 from??

    • @Tiyac3
      @Tiyac3 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Honkai impact I guess

  • @quad9238
    @quad9238 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    🗿 bro what...

  • @brlinkiller
    @brlinkiller 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    24:32 LMAOOOOO

  • @sl1me489
    @sl1me489 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I got a feeling Zhongli is the second descender....plus he is cursed by primordial one with the erosion and the first contract was to help defeat the third descender and he never tells anyone bout it and forgets it over time

  • @rsolyi1434
    @rsolyi1434 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    oh

  • @theotakuhub_7709
    @theotakuhub_7709 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Hii

  • @Kyosukedono
    @Kyosukedono 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What Genshin is about to the average person: A rip off gacha game of Breath of the Wild that call their Moblins "hillichurls"
    What Genshin is REALLY about: 9:10
    Also wincest and about a small white fairy wanting to marry a blonde hunk twice her size.
    GOD I love how much this game enrages twitter.

  • @nawawii3750
    @nawawii3750 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Nyx is Dark Seele, not Kiana

  • @TNTboyz1997
    @TNTboyz1997 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    🤍❤🤍❤🤍

  • @rajaryan-fe1oy
    @rajaryan-fe1oy 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Elvert Who?

  • @Azzywrld224
    @Azzywrld224 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Bro talks like a preacher and it’s so funny

  • @thesmilyguyguy9799
    @thesmilyguyguy9799 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    : )

  • @fat4eyes
    @fat4eyes 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    1 minute ago

  • @ashleyandanime4815
    @ashleyandanime4815 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Are people forgetting that Nahida said that the 1st descender is literally the sustainer????

    • @HELiXDzn123
      @HELiXDzn123 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      when??

    • @sMv-Afjal
      @sMv-Afjal 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      She, Nahida, siad it's her best guess that the first descender could be what we now knows aa the heavenly principle.

    • @HELiXDzn123
      @HELiXDzn123 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@sMv-Afjal heavenly principle not sustainer of heavenly principles very deliberate difference in wording, same way in which ei calls eternity the closest to the heavenly principles.

  • @OneM0reUser
    @OneM0reUser 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Incest is bad he said, but what if the little sister is stuck in a washing machine and asks big bro for help?

    • @salceds
      @salceds 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Then you people are just annoying and cumbrained

  • @ballistic_1607
    @ballistic_1607 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    There’s no way the 3rd descender is dainsleaif lmao

    • @ionmariaskel6908
      @ionmariaskel6908 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      suit yourself then

    • @ShirouE
      @ShirouE 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      Have you seen the leaked volumes of the Pale Princess? Your comment is going to age terribly.

  • @apistogramma7370
    @apistogramma7370 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    There is no more arrogant and annoying theories crafter than this one, really...