That looks like a serious piece of kit, 6 or 12 rounds all landing at the same time is a game changer. I hope the British Army takes these up, I think they are awesome. The way it took off over that hump and seamlessly came back to ground, I imagine the suspension system must be outstanding for a vehicle of that size.
they can be linked, imagine 10 of them firing from 10 different locations 6 or 12 rounds each for a simultaneus impact of 60-120 shells. those mortar shells are cheap, but their effect is multiplied by this new tech.
I think it's pretty cool that these guys can be used for direct fire too. Develop a decent HEAT round for these guys and they'll be a major threat to BMPs and BTRs.
@@TheCrazyFinn Don't forget the maneuverability. I bet the vehicles could probably run circles around a T-72 and the only actual threat would maybe be the commander on the .50.
@@TheCrazyFinn It would be doubly effecting if you made a guided mortar round and could drop it right on the roof hatch. It would have to be cheaper than a Javelin and far more devastating. For an IFV though, just use the HE shell. The armor isn't thick enough to deal with a direct hit from a 120mm HE round.
Well, a few dozen of these, only AMOS, a dozen Archers to go with K9 Thunder and of course a few more M270 MLRS for Finland. And, obviously Excalibur rounds and GLSDB for the M270. In the fiture there mght be some precision rounds for the AMOS too... And drones. And SAMs.
My guess is AMOS is too heavy/expensive, since it needs heavier and more expensive vehicles to carry the turret (e.g. Patria 8x8) while NEMO can be handled by lighter and cheaper vehicles (such as Patria 6x6). AMOS - Max rate: 16 rounds/minute - Sustained rate: 10 rounds/minute - MRSI: 10 rounds - Turret weight: 3.600kg NEMO - Max rate: 10 rounds/minute - Sustained rate: 6 rounds/minute - MRSI: 5 rounds - Turret weight: 1.900kg Patria 8x8 - Weight: 16.000-38.000kg - Range: 600-1000km - Max speed on land: 100 km/h - Max speed on water: 10 km/h - Price (manufactured in Finland): $5.9 million (Slovakia buys 76 Patria 8x8 for $450 million, price probably includes 30mm cannon) Patria 6x6 - Weight: 25.000kg - Range: 700km - Max speed on land: 100km/h - Max speed on water: 8 km/h - Price (licensed manufacturing in Latvia): $1.2 million (Latvia buys 200+ Patria 6x6 for $237 million)
Insta Steel Eagle aka. "flying Claymore" drone is claimed to have same effect as 6 120 mm grenades. Insane. Works well with the Steel Lynx remote wireless detonated take-off canister with the same explosive.
These Amv should have own drone system , also when they arrive ,so on the roof they could send a drone to spionage the enemy position ...and give fire directions!
@@hawkstable8889 Patria AMV yes. Patria 6x6 no. The easiest way to tell the difference between 6x6 and older Pasi vehicles is the windshield. In 6x6 there's one wide windshield where as in the older Pasi there are two separate windshields. The vehicle carrying NEMO was probably Pasi XA203.
When KTO Rosomak (Polish for Wolverine) came to Afghanistan, losses among soldiers running in patroling convoys went low. Very low, to zero. IED's and RPG's did not kill any soldier which traveled in Rosomak. Those vehicles instantly went on the front of such convoys. When under heavy attack or in the centre of some serious bomb blast some troopers were injured. One person was seriously injured. But nobody died. Every Rosomak came back to base and was fixed. Fixed to go back to its frontal position in convoys. KTO Rosomak is the name of the first series of AMV Partia made on license in Poland for Polish soldiers but not only for them. Thank you, AMV for your Patria.
Well 24 mortar rounds in 60 sec, then taking of at a max speed of 100 km/h doesn't scream slow to me. Also with the multiple rounds single impact approach, you can hit the area with 6 simultaneous impacts/vehicle, giving the infantry no advance warning.
@@parabellum122 Russia has their own systems similar to those. You realize that Ukraine is already in massive debt towards several EU states and the US because of the arms supplies, right? They will have to pay that back within the next years.
Shame Sweden abandoned this project it had with Finland, I'm glad Finland kept developing it!
But if sweden have not be in start.. 🇸🇪🇫🇮
That looks like a serious piece of kit, 6 or 12 rounds all landing at the same time is a game changer. I hope the British Army takes these up, I think they are awesome. The way it took off over that hump and seamlessly came back to ground, I imagine the suspension system must be outstanding for a vehicle of that size.
th-cam.com/video/jrZYl9_DdiQ/w-d-xo.html Check it out, looks rad
they can be linked, imagine 10 of them firing from 10 different locations 6 or 12 rounds each for a simultaneus impact of 60-120 shells.
those mortar shells are cheap, but their effect is multiplied by this new tech.
@@petrihaikio7002 Yeah, and after the salvo, they can reposition themselves very, very fast, and be ready for a second massive salvo in minutes
I think it's pretty cool that these guys can be used for direct fire too. Develop a decent HEAT round for these guys and they'll be a major threat to BMPs and BTRs.
Maybe even MBTs, as it could have a shaped charge about the same diameter as one fired from a 120mm cannon.
@@TheCrazyFinn
Don't forget the maneuverability. I bet the vehicles could probably run circles around a T-72 and the only actual threat would maybe be the commander on the .50.
HEAT is less effective again IFVs, why? Because their appliqué armor is mainly designed to resist shaped charges. A KE round would be the solution.
@@TheCrazyFinn It would be doubly effecting if you made a guided mortar round and could drop it right on the roof hatch. It would have to be cheaper than a Javelin and far more devastating.
For an IFV though, just use the HE shell. The armor isn't thick enough to deal with a direct hit from a 120mm HE round.
Armored warfare is becoming an indirect fire business, this smells perfect
A highly mobile mortar system fits right into that niche.
Welcome Patria XP to Brazil
Well, a few dozen of these, only AMOS, a dozen Archers to go with K9 Thunder and of course a few more M270 MLRS for Finland. And, obviously Excalibur rounds and GLSDB for the M270. In the fiture there mght be some precision rounds for the AMOS too... And drones. And SAMs.
Are you planning to make a speech in the Urals region? (Just a fellow finn asking...)
My guess is AMOS is too heavy/expensive, since it needs heavier and more expensive vehicles to carry the turret (e.g. Patria 8x8) while NEMO can be handled by lighter and cheaper vehicles (such as Patria 6x6).
AMOS
- Max rate: 16 rounds/minute
- Sustained rate: 10 rounds/minute
- MRSI: 10 rounds
- Turret weight: 3.600kg
NEMO
- Max rate: 10 rounds/minute
- Sustained rate: 6 rounds/minute
- MRSI: 5 rounds
- Turret weight: 1.900kg
Patria 8x8
- Weight: 16.000-38.000kg
- Range: 600-1000km
- Max speed on land: 100 km/h
- Max speed on water: 10 km/h
- Price (manufactured in Finland): $5.9 million (Slovakia buys 76 Patria 8x8 for $450 million, price probably includes 30mm cannon)
Patria 6x6
- Weight: 25.000kg
- Range: 700km
- Max speed on land: 100km/h
- Max speed on water: 8 km/h
- Price (licensed manufacturing in Latvia): $1.2 million (Latvia buys 200+ Patria 6x6 for $237 million)
Insta Steel Eagle aka. "flying Claymore" drone is claimed to have same effect as 6 120 mm grenades. Insane. Works well with the Steel Lynx remote wireless detonated take-off canister with the same explosive.
That Patria 8X8 with Nemo is one hell of a sexy beast
These Amv should have own drone system , also when they arrive ,so on the roof they could send a drone to spionage the enemy position ...and give fire directions!
They do have now, and this AMOS are planted in fast boats (assault-boats) aswell!...!
And combined with XM395 / PGMM this system will be even more accurate but the cost per round will obviously increase with such a tech.
The Vikings still come up with the best weaponary. 👌
Put the same MLRS system that M270 has on Patria AMV.
It's a great system. I hope that it will be adopted by the Japanese Self-Defense Forces.
Damn! The fire observer killed the finch with FN MAG...
Could've been a ZANU or ZANLA terrorist.
🇸🇮Slovenian government after seeing this video
🥵
Check also HSW M120 Rak
Could somebody tell me the vehicle platform?
Patria AMV and Patria 6x6
@@hawkstable8889 Patria AMV yes. Patria 6x6 no.
The easiest way to tell the difference between 6x6 and older Pasi vehicles is the windshield. In 6x6 there's one wide windshield where as in the older Pasi there are two separate windshields. The vehicle carrying NEMO was probably Pasi XA203.
@@jonnekallu1627 Close enough
will it be electric :)
someone pls make an ARMA 3 mod of this
You should send couple of these to Ukraina to get some EXP
Wow!
MLRS? Nope, just AMOS
Vehkeet on kunnossa mutta onko huolto kunnossa TV res VP
Huolto on kunnossa
Trovo la versione 8x8 piu funzionale del cingolato
Now Ukraine needs such weapons !!!
absolutely YES
So they can lose 20% of them?
If...
Great filming. Lose the annoying and loud soundtrack to make it perfect.
Music taste limited to metal? It's okay, you'll grow out of it eventually.
test on orcs !
👍👏
박격포를 직각으로 쏜다고??
yes
แต่นี่คือสิ่งที่จะทำให้การรบระยะประชิดได้เปรียบการยิงวิถีโค้งด้วยความแม่นยำมันจะเก็บรายละเอียดจากปืนใหญ่ที่ตกหล่น
👍
It's not a good sign that they won't show a second shot without changing the camera angle.
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They could be of some use to the ukrainians. Just saying…
Zelenskliy asking for Tomahawks missiles , he`s dumb, Ukraine needs these supermortars to deal with russian meat waves. And the ammo is chap !
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The only thing these type of videos are missing are soldiers arms torn off blood dripping from there faces and the sight of innocent death.
When KTO Rosomak (Polish for Wolverine) came to Afghanistan, losses among soldiers running in patroling convoys went low. Very low, to zero. IED's and RPG's did not kill any soldier which traveled in Rosomak. Those vehicles instantly went on the front of such convoys. When under heavy attack or in the centre of some serious bomb blast some troopers were injured. One person was seriously injured. But nobody died. Every Rosomak came back to base and was fixed. Fixed to go back to its frontal position in convoys.
KTO Rosomak is the name of the first series of AMV Partia made on license in Poland for Polish soldiers but not only for them.
Thank you, AMV for your Patria.
Russia ?
Finland
Wakanda
F from Finland
Trivago.
game changer ?
it's slow.
and really only usefull against even slower targets, since ot's artillerie.
If you don't know anything don't even speak.
it is fast for an grenade launcher easy and fast to go and destroy enemy positions.
Well 24 mortar rounds in 60 sec, then taking of at a max speed of 100 km/h doesn't scream slow to me. Also with the multiple rounds single impact approach, you can hit the area with 6 simultaneous impacts/vehicle, giving the infantry no advance warning.
arent mrls much better than this crap
different purpose…
"better"?
You're welcomed to try to give indirect fire support to ground troops from 50m to 12km with an MRLS...
and mlrs is much more expensive to fire even compared to amos let alone normal mortars so no no its not "better".
NICE!!! Taths wath Ukraine need now ;)
They can't afford those
@@DefinitelyNotEmma russia is paying :D :D :D No problem :D
@@parabellum122 Russia has their own systems similar to those.
You realize that Ukraine is already in massive debt towards several EU states and the US because of the arms supplies, right? They will have to pay that back within the next years.
@@DefinitelyNotEmma Yes, of course it will have to, at the expense of russian tax payers
@@saxar88.This has aged like milk...
Like a lot of the comments here.
sent this to Ukraine
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ฉันว่ามันดีกว่ารถถังอีกซะอีกฉันชอบระบบยิงวิธีโค้งมาว่าจะยิงรถถังโดนก่อนที่จะเห็นรถถังคันเป็นๆด้วยซ้ำ