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Testing out the new Wood Stove
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 15 ส.ค. 2024
- 3-19-16 Today I test burned the Pleasant Hearth 1200 wood stove. I used dry kindling with newspaper. The first two burns are only supposed to get to 250ºF to slowly cure the paint. Today's fire will be a full burn, which is supposed to be 500ºF. As far as smoke goes, we'll have to see how well it gets up to temperature and if I have enough draft. The dented Selkirk stove pipe was unfortunate, but, I got $30 off for being dented. Thanks a lot for watching to all my viewers.
Three years later, this stove is still doing great. It likes dry seasoned wood. I have other videos on my channel on the stove and plan a new video update on the stove soon.
That would stove looks identical to the one I plan on purchasing but it's a different name it's by us stoves it is Defender 2 is the wood stove I'm looking at. It says it takes a 17-inch log online and an 18in log by the manual. I wanted a wood stove that takes an average piece of wood. And not have to cut every log down I put in the wood stove.
I just ran across this. I was thinking it looked just like the us stove I'm about to buy? How did it turn out?
Craig...I've been passing this information along to wood burning enthusiasts; To clean the creosote off the glass, take a half sheet of kitchen paper towel, fold it in thirds, get it damp wet, and dip it into the cold ash in the morning, and use that to scrub the creosote off the glass. Works like a charm. No more expensive cleaners in a plastic bottle.
Yep, works like a charm. It’s as clean as the day it was new.
Hello. Could you give me the info for the stove top adapter section at the base of the stove? I am having trouble running my durablack pipe. Nothing will fit this odd size 6 5/8" flue outlet. I was at a stove dealer- since I did not purchase my stove there, seems they don't want to help me out. Thanks.
You cannot beat wood heat! Great job!
You are correct, nothing like coming in from the cold outside and saddling up next to a wood stove!!! Warms to the bones!
@@terrydriggers5217 I haven't used mine in 15 yrs because having back problems but still have it stored & I want it hooked up every year needless to say owned it & loved it since 1982 & miss seeing the fire so much & the smell of wood burning outside!
That is very good for just starting the stove and getting it going. When all you see is a little vapor you are burning great !!! Great video and I am an old stove seller and installer ! Proves you do not need to spend thousands of dollars to get a great stove !!
We love ours. Heats 1000sf all winter. Thick bed of embers and fresh "dried" wood will keep you warm.
Tiersmoke92555 It likes dry wood as most epa stoves do, but I really like it. I used it a lot the past week, it kept the shed so warm and comfortable. I’ve made a few videos on it, the more I use it the more I like it.
It's always 'good' with a wood burning stove. -Dogs love them too!
Hi I am a professional fireplace installer for over 25 years. You need a ceiling support box to make the transition from single wall to class A pipe. All of your single wall pipe should fit so the pipe above fits into the pipe below so any creosote will drip down into the stove.
Nha it's fine. If anything he should put a heat shield of some type around the back and side of it.
They are both double wall pipes though
Regan approves!!!! There's nothing like the sight of a good pup layed out in front of a nice fire.
+yourbeekeeper Reagan loves it, I think I'll need to get a bed for him to lay on while I work out there. He's such a great dog- you know about great dogs...... he's just one of a kind.
Great video
Glad you enjoyed it
These stoves run amazing on very very seasoned wood(looks like the ends have been dipped in black oil). If I have wood that has been through 2 seasons it burns hot and long. Great video
Just ordered this model for my 3 car garage. And a Castle Serenity pellet stove for our living room. Trying not to rely on Mini Split heat pumps for cold Northern Washington winters.
I’m outside in the shed using it today. Damp and cold today, perfect day for a fire.
Very nice video. You did a good job with the installation. My only other comment has to do with the thermometer. I think 400-600 is a little "too hot". People should judge their "comfort zone" rather than following their thermometer. I have 3 thermos, different ages, all same styles. They all have their "burn zones" between 250-450 Yeah i know, not much difference. Just don't get it too damn hot, especially if it starts turning "RED" Oh yea, if there's no blower on the stove, you should at least have a FLOOR FAN nearby, just in case the stove "overheats". That will help bring down the stove temp and push more heat into the room. Keep a steamer-pot filled because "warm air" will hold a lot more heat than COLD AIR. I fill mine every couple hours. Happy Burning
That stove is working Great! Good Job! ☺
+Norman McGregor (Our Island Adventure) Thanks Norman, I had a lot of fun working on the stove today. It will be nice to have a warm wood fire when I'm working out there next winter.
Looks like you did a pretty good job on it. I remember what a good buy on it you got. Still on my list of things to do.
+Midwest Gardener It really was a good buy, I don't usually find things like that, but I kinda stumbled into it I suppose.
my plate runs best between 450-550 degrees, it really wont gas too much on the secondary burn till you get over 500 and then you need a good draw pulling that air through the dryer vent. i dont let my plate get into the red over 700 degrees. my stack is 12 ft, and if you get any higher off the roof you will need bracing by code.
Beautiful stove. I like it.
Looks good. Nice work.
Thanks 👍
Great video. Good job explaining everything. Ty
Thanks Stephen.
Install a damper inside the chimney to regulate flow through the woodburner to get the most btu's it can produce
HONEY B GUYS I don't have a draft problem so I don't think that would help. My pipe is only 14' tall so I could actually benefit from more draw. I thought a damper slows a fire down, I could actually use a little more heat to keep my creosote down. Next year will be better, the wood isn't quite seasoned yet.
Craig Arndt It does slow the flow this giving you more heat and will allow the wood to burn slower thus burning less wood. The chimney will get hotter because the fire box is hotter. Best of all worlds.
New stoves donot require a damper....on the stove pipe.
Keep the neighbors happy. If their mad at smoke and you heating your home. To hell with em.
@@honeybguys6346 no not on these stoves. It inpeds the flow of flue gases.
Have the same stove, love the company, my wife broke the glass and they sent me a new one no questions asked for free , I had it 3 days, this stove likes to have extra draft, I rarely close the door super tight
You're right, it runs best with a little more air. I put a new rope seal on it and it starved the fire. Once I started closing it but not cranking it down tight, it ran much better.
Looks nice, great setup!
+Nx2overide Thanks, it was another fun project. Took some saving of all the pipe and stuff, but was fun to install.
Nice tree growing toward the house & chimney.
I would cut any tree branches right by the chimney pipe
Looks really nice!
Awesome! Thanks for all the info! 😃👍
that looks good!!
can you make a short video of the inside of your stove to see how the secondary works!.
Sure, one of my wood stove videos has the secondary working, but I'll get a video soon of it. Expecting some cooler weather soon.
The stove is working great and you did a good job on the install. The surface getting over 500 you can likely cook on it too.
+Dale Calder Thank you Dale, I was thinking about doing some cooking on it!
Use the fires ashes to clean the glass...its like a fine pumice
It works really well, cuts through the carbon very quickly.
I'm have a problem with soot. I have a Pleasant Hearth 1800. Any suggestions? Thank you.
These EPA stoves need well seasoned (bone dry) wood. Any moisture in the wood will cause steam, lower the stove temperature and cause creosote. When I have dry wood, the glass is clean or powdery white. But unfortunately, my wood pile got snow covered in the blizzard and is now wet. Planning to clean the stovepipe next weekend. When you clean the stove pipe, vacuum up all the creosote on top of the insulation blanket in the stove, that can cause poor air flow of the super heated air. Dry wood really makes things a lot easier, this year I plan an outdoor wood cabinet/rack to store my wood so look for a future video.
Still beat paying for oil .
Whats the fresh air intake for, isnt it the same if you crack a window a little bit? Seems like a good trade off versus another hole in the siding.
Then you let cold air inside. All new stoves have cold air plumbing, they draw better using outside air.
@@CraigArndt You are partially correct. Drolet stoves do not come with the specific adapter for fresh air system. Thats another $100.
I really like the features this stove has and the glass so you can see how it's burning .... Try some cider vinegar on newspaper to clean the glass
+not2fast4u2c Thank you for the tip on the glass Jim, I'll give it a try. This stove doesn't have a really strong air wash for the glass, I will likely have to clean it now and then. It was so cold this morning after I cut that air vent into the side of the shed, my hands where numb. Glad this stove throws some heat- but will definitely need to insulate or sheath the inside to retain heat.
I saw another guy dampen a paper towel then dip in cold ash, cleaned up beautifully!
"I got that vent in there pretty tight. No rodents going to get in there."
Bwahahahahaha! Nothing in the title indicates this is a comedy! ;)
That right there is a rodent highway!!!
selador11 attention all rodents, use north exit for entry! Lol
Why didn't you angle the stove with the corner? It looks kind of funny the way it is.
It takes double the space if you kitty corner it. You have to keep it a certain distance away from the walls and if you kitty corner it, it'll stick out and take up more room. Who cares what you think it looks like anyway.
Hey that fresh air intake. Is it necessary to install this in through the wall or can it still be installed without it
I can be installed without going outside, but then you're using heated air from inside the house. That creates a vacuum and generally in a home, would make other rooms much colder. For my shed, I didn't need to do that since air is coming in from lots of places. But if you have a tight house, you'll have a hard time getting air to the fire and struggle to get a good burn. Adding- even in this little shed, I can hear the air being pulled in from outside the vent I installed.
@@CraigArndt okay thanks for the advice. I think I’m going to try it without first this fall and see what happens first. I appreciate it.
Great shed and stove. Did you check if that meets code? Its common for no solid fuel appliances allowed in a detached accessory device. No I'm not the zoning police but wish to educate folks on possible issues down the road. If I had the shed its the first thing I would do, Despite the code issue. Heck if I need heat I need heat.
Yes, it meets code where I am. Can't have it in an attached garage, but an out building is allowed.
I've got a 400 sq foot cabin in northern Wisconsin and am looking for a stove to keep it 75 to 80 degrees and it's well insulated. I found one of these for 300 bucks new. Would you reccomend?
I would recommend. It’s mobile home rated so it can heat that space, it’s rated for 1200 sq.ft. The firebox is a little on the small side, but I’m happy with my purchase.
Any idea the gauge stew used to make pleasant hearth stoves? I can’t find that information. Great video. Thanks for the info!!
Hard to say, the sides are sheet metal covering the stove. The top is 3/16 - 1/4”, but I never looked to see what gauge the inner stove is. It weighs a lot so for a small stove.
Do you cut your own wood or get it somewhere else?
That looks like a Northern White Ash hanging over the shed there. If it’s not already dead, it will be eventually. Ash is excellent firewood. Are you thinking what I’m thinking?
localcrew It is a white ash and it won’t be firewood. The 3 Ash trees I have are all protected by EAB. They are now doing great.
I did get a huge load of white ash from a buddy nearby though. It burns great, his trees fell on his house and I got the wood. EAB really did a number in our area but it’s moving through. Another 10 years and it should clear our area.
Hope you’re right. Down south, we have been told that the battle is over - and that the borer beetle menace has won. Green bastards...
How's it cookin now?
I used it a couple times this winter, it is still working great and looks great. No issues, except the usual replacing of the door gasket but that is a simple fix. Heats the 10x20 shed great.
Why are these stoves so expensive? (lowest is about $1k) It's just a metal box, no? Very little technology
Everything is so expensive now. I really got a deal on this, usually they are $600-700. But now these small mobile home stoves that heat 1200-1400 sq. feet are just about $1200-1400. Best time to find one is after the season, as a leftover.
I bought one just like this for my mobile home but I havent bought the flue or chimney or stove pipe yet...Where would be the best place to buy the pipes and chimney???..Thank you
I’d buy them locally. Every piece of pipe I bought was crushed in shipping. That creates hot spots in the flue. Try Craigslist and local hardware stores that can order it. Amazon and eBay both I bought from and was required to pound out dents from both shippers.
I think I found the flue/chimney/stove pipes at Home Depot or Ace hardware.....Thank u for the info....I just have to wait to buy in a month or 2 but at least I will have the stove....
throw a EcoFan on top for air movement.. it helps
I'd love one but they are like $100 bucks.. I'd be mesmerized just watching it haha.
nice stove.any ideas on your first project in your new set-up
+Mike Markes My dad and I are running electric to it this spring, that will be next. I do have some old kitchen counter tops from when I remodeled our kitchen that will on the opposite end of the shed. After that, sometime over summer I'll start covering the walls with knotty pine or maybe cedar. Just have to think that through first because that won't be cheap.
At which point do you shut the stove down. If burning at 500 that would use a lot of wood up.
This stove doesn’t shut down very well. I’d say a flue baffle is probably a good idea to have to control the stove. But keeping it around 400 is a smokeless burn and it’s very efficient.
It doesn't use alot of wood burning hot. It's how you burn it that makes it hot.
Blaze king?
Is it safe for pets like birds? Does it keep the smoke and smell of burning wood out of the house?
Yes, it’s not like a fireplace. It gets its air from outside, there’s no smoke smell indoors. Maybe when you open the door quickly you can get a puff of smoke inside, but, it’s a sealed unit.
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How much do you think materials (minus the stove itself) and installation would cost (rough ballpark)?
It depends on the pipe. Double walled pipe I used, the exterior stainless pipe is expensive. I believe I wound up paying around $400 for the 15’ of pipe including the bracket for the roof, cap, etc. The interior pipe is black and its extendable so that save me from buying several pieces and paying all that shipping. I remember I paid more for the pipe than I did the stove.
Thanks for the reply. So materials + stove + installation would probably cost me 1,500 - 2,000 easy, I guess? I'm not handy so I wouldn't be able to do it myself :(
Mr. GhostShelter the double walled stuff is what's expensive. doing an install this weekend the wall thimble and insulated pipe cost more than my accidental cheap stove.
Like the outside air intake .
Pat Cornwell It really helps to use outside air, but the shed isn’t very air tight.
if u add a secondary burn sys. to it, u'll have a lot more heat out of it and u will use less wood.thats my 2cents worth.!!!!!
how is your stove holding up since the install any problems? I just ordered one for my singlewide home just wondering if you think it will heat 1000sq feet
Kelly, I think you will like it. Since I insulated my 200 sq ft shed, it heats it nicely. I really like the stove, but like any stove they have quirks you need to learn. Dry wood, is a real must with it. The vent rod doesn’t do much as most have said. I installed new door gaskets, that made a huge difference, performance got so much better. I draw fresh air from outside. Im using 14’ of double walled pipe, minimums are 15’ foot tall pipe and I draw pretty good. Only thing I wish was better was air glass cleaning, it only cleans the middle. I run the stove, get it hot, let it burn, pull coals forward, reload. All fire bricks are still intact after two years, all internal baffles are rust free still. Well made stove, just spend time with it like any stove. I’m going to have more videos on it, I love to use it.
Got mine yesterday broke it in with 2 small fires then one big one in garage before installing in our home..the other one we had was too big for our singlewide trailer. I hope this one will heat it..it's 900 sq.ft I can't wait ultil I get to see..thanks for the reply and I love your shop..
Kelly Bishop How did your Woodstove do in your mobile Home?
@@CraigArndt I have 256 square foot cargo trailer with a 76 or 77 inch ceiling then I'll probably lose 2in on when I insulate the ceiling. It's 8 foot wide x 32 ft long I think I'm going to need a fan to push the air around. How tall is your ceiling? I would say your ceiling height is taller than mine. Is your wood stove rated 1200 square foot and around 58,000 BTU? Any thoughts on cutting the heat back on the wood stove if it gets too hot? I guess I would rather have a wood stove that's too big than too small.
@@kellybishop6801 how was the wood stove too big for your place? Too hot and you couldn't cool it down? I've got a wood stove that's a lot bigger than my place and I was just wondering. I thought I might want a wood stove that's too big versus too small.
5 feet over my roof peak
you need to put more wood in the stove to get it hotter
I'm renovating a school bus to a RV would I be able to put this in there? It seems like it would be tricky with the pipe that comes out
no, they make a special woodstove for housetrailers & similar structures.
If you gonna be doing a lot of traveling then, no. If the bus is parked for extend stays then just drill the base and bolt it down.
What model is this stove? How much it weigh?
Weighs a lot, maybe 300 lbs. Its their smallest unit. 1200 sq ft.
OK cool. Does it go into the room?
Newer stoves have an inlet for pulling in outside air. Behind the stove tucked under the rear, is a 3" fitting for the hose. The air for the stove pulls from outside so I'm not using air from inside the shed. Just have to watch it so it doesn't get filled with cobwebs I suppose.
The stove top temp. is pretty much IRRELEVANT . You need to watch your flu temp. to keep creosote from building up. I keep a thermometer on my stove top just know what temp it is .
twoweary that would work but the pipe is double insulated so I’m not sure how accurate that would actually be
@@ashtonhecker3627,Right, what is needed is a PROBE type pipe thermometer.
What does the stove weigh?
gerard haubert I don’t recall, maybe 200# including fire bricks. I backed my trailer to the shed and dragged it in.
What's the pipe at the bottom for?
Matt Seymour Fresh air intake from outside.
Hi how important is the tube that is the back
That is just a dryer tube hooked up to supply fresh air. I think it is code now pretty much everywhere that all stoves need to pull in outside air for combustion. The instructions showed two methods of hooking up the fresh air tube, but said it needed to be operated with that in place.
Yesterday was my first day and I do not have the tube installed it happens to me that so soon the door extinguishes the fire.
@@jescalona444 I didn't use the tube the first burn either. Too excited to use the stove. I found that opening the door caused a negative pressure without the fresh air tube and I got smoke inside. You'll want to plan where the fresh air will come from. When the stove is working, I've gone outside and put my hand near the rodent screen and you can feel the air going in. It definitely is designed to pull from the outside.
@@CraigArndt Is it possible that this will be the reason why the fire extinguishes not having the tube?
@@jescalona444 Assuming you have dry wood, yes probably. Try opening a window nearby and see if that relieves the pressure. These stoves are sealed so I never crank it closed tight, I just want the door gasket to seal a bit. Once a good draw is going and the stove is hot, it works great. This stove needs bone dry wood, any wet wood is futile. If your house is well insulated and tight, without that tube its going to be starved for air. Try opening a window and see if that helps.
Windex on the glass when it's cool or just warm. Let it soak then razor blade takes it off easy. Lay Kleenex on the inside of the glass if a cold stove. Spray as putting it on & let it soak then razor blade it off. . Nice job !
Pipelyon Thanks! Wet paper towel with a little ash on it works like magic. It’s really incredible. I just bought another 36” section of double wall stainless pipe and a roof brace. I really need more pipe to draft better. That should give me 16 or more feet and make the stove do a little better. That video is this weekend.
Or you could use stove glass cleaner....
The windex cause more build up to happen.
Use the white ash every morning on a damp newspaper. Comes off amazingly well. Even the tough stuff. Then clean the residue with just a damp newspaper.
Orange Hand cleaner works great. Try it. It's like an spot eraser on the glass
When its warm dry news paper get it clean when its cooled white vinegar. Try not to wet your gaskets. And just keeping it's at temp keeps the glass clean on own.
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Did you just use one piece of wood all this time? Unbelievable
Stove is to big for your shed
No...
Craig Your stove pipe you sad Yours is 13 feet my book says I have to go from floor in house to top of chimney has to be 15 feet that will put my stove pipe 5 feet your not having any problems with the draft thanks for the video
+richard crane Right, I measured mine from the floor to the top of the chimney, its 13' and the minimum is 14'. I think a taller flue would help a little, but I really think this is the design of the stove. It draws pretty good but the door has to be open just a hair, literally. But, man, its a great little stove.
It is measured from the base of the fire. It looks as though the pipe is installed upside down. Top pipe should be install inside lower pipe. I install fireplaces for a living, licensed and insured.
Licensed and insured doesn't mean anything and I'm sorry but professionals don't watch youtube videos on installation of a wood stove. That is just a fact.
THIS OVER ,NOT MAKE FOOT, AND i not like!
doesnt know how to light a fire i see
Says the guy trolling stove videos looking how to light a fire in a stove.