Hey guys! First off, subs are available here so switch on closed captions if you like! Also, below is a few corrections of things I've learned after this video went up, so feel free to peruse: - The reason why the choreography is so poor in One Night in Bangkok is because Kaos was only given 4 hours to shoot the final scene. His budget was also super tight. - Production was moved to Vancouver due to one of the principals of Ballistic refusing to leave North America after 9/11.
@@Suspect_Green I recommend maybe make a list of movies that are bad rotten tomatoes scores but audience likes them like The Boondocks Saints and Law Abiding Citizen. Something like this video you did which I enjoyed! 😊
So you have 2 charismatic leads, a passionate and talented director, god-tier action, and masters of stunt work. This should've been John Wick before John Wick.
You truly must know how to make a movie ABYSMAL if you have Antonio Banderas and Lucy Liu as the protagonists and yet no one finds fun of it. Simply wow
Yeah, the life of 'em got sapped in this picture. Usually they're both such fun to watch. I can't get over how they wrote in an emotionless, assassin character and cast Lucy Liu for it.
Reminds me of how in Thor the Dark World, they took a really fun and charismatic villain from the comics, hired Christopher Eccleston, a really fun and charismatic actor, to play him...and then somehow ended up with the most bland villain in the MCU.
That is until "Eternals" with the character Kro, the Deviants leader played by Bill Skarsgård. Up until Icarus turns during the climax, Kro was essentially the main antagonist and he was so underwhelming, I had to look up his name just to figure out what it was.
I'm one of the... I dunno, 200,000 people who saw it, and the editing is so bad. So bad. There's one slowmo shot of their legs while they're walking. No explosions, it's not after a fight scene, they're just walking, and the camera goes into slo-mo. For like six seconds. It's incomprehensible. A chimpanzee could edit better than that.
I mean, you say that like the tie-in games (two of them!) weren’t legitimately good in their genre. The first one came out so far ahead of the actual movie that I was looking forward to this thing!
That damn game made me so excited for this movie....and then I saw it was like " what am I missing, did I not understand it?" My child brain couldn't comprehend it
I'd say the two games -- one written based on an early version of the script before the film was even being made and another made after it came out -- are the *main* reason anyone's heard of this film. They're not even especially good but there was nothing else like them on the GBA that early into its lifetime and the novelty made them noteworthy.
I think this is the closest we can get to a vintage Suspect movie review. 1 movie as the subject, over 40 mins long video, breaking down the production and story in an entertaining way, a movie that's not too obscure that it's hard to care about, but not too popular that it becomes a redundant review. This was the most enjoyable video since you moved to this channel.
@@seanm903His other channel’s still around, and it’s called The Unusual Suspect. The videos there are hilarious reviews of movies like the Sam Rami Spider-Man trilogy, The Lord of the Rings, Harry Potter, and more. He moved to this channel after some TH-cam issues he talks about in an update video.
There is a fanedit of the movie called Ballistic. It's only 55 minutes long that removes all the boring out of the movie and only keeps the action and whatever there's left of the plot. Also, they used the trailer music from Spider-Man (2002) in this movie.
As mentioned in the video, they also co-starred in a comedy called Play It To The Bone shortly before this movie. They have good chemistry, it's a shame they weren't in more stuff together.
I saw that X-Men blooper years ago and wondered what the hell it was. Was Tobey Maguire on set at the same time and decided to come on set as a prank? But this Lear guy now contextualises one of the biggest confusions I've ever had about a random clip on TH-cam.
This is honestly really sad to see. There is no possible way that this movie is worse than ‘Disaster Movie’ and I can safely say that Kaos did not deserve to be screwed over. As someone who wants to pursue filmmaking, being aware of stories like this is very useful despite how upsetting it may be
we can also flush the last 4 years down the drain...save for a handful of films.... Sonic, Sonic 2, any John Wick that released i think part 3 and 4, top gun 2, Norsemen, godzilla minus 1? and a few others but everything else can be flushed from memory [also I'm going off popular sentiment here and honestly haven't seen anything new since Sonic 1] modern movies makes Ballistic look like a masterpiece.... I've downloaded 1 movie in the last 6 months and it was from the 80's "Night of the Comet" which I totally enjoyed! I lost interest in what's new and judge this era harshly, recyc for this era! there is no saving it, we need a complete reboot of society!
@@judgedrekk2981mate, you just haven’t found the right films to watch. There’s so many good ones you’re not giving a chance to More importantly though, this reply was completely irrelevant to what I was saying
@@JAProductions494 i agree with the guy, in last years i saw so many movies that completely disappointed me, Napoleon being the last straw. I'm only coming back in time to explore old movies, recently saw Barry Lyndon, oh boy, comparing it to modern cinematography we are taking only steps back
Note: ensure you have the right to remove your name from the production release in your contract, and make sure you have a screening in there to determine that, and make sure they don’t do it the day before release when it’s “sorry, we already sent the final”.
@@Enkabard I mean it's just factually wrong. There are SO many good, fun, unique films being made in modern times and I honestly don't know where all this talk of 'movies suck now' comes from. Look at stuff like what Yorgos Lanthimos, Wes Anderson, Denis Villeneuve are doing, all absolutely spectacular takes on cinema with so much unique and beautiful cinematography being achieved. Even the quirky but mainstream stuff people like Edgar Wright and James Gunn have been doing with their films. Not to mention people like Neil McDonagh or Taika Waititi, who make beautifully absurd and heart breaking films. We're still also getting gorgeous films from classic and modern giants like Nolan, Peele, Tarantino and Scorsese. We're seeing a rise of brilliant action films being made by stuntmen that have a level of action and practical stunt work in them we've never before. Modern cinema is dripping in unique beauty, new techniques, rising new directors and awe inspiring movies by the bucket load, I find this argument that cinema is dying to be the complaints of people who are making no effort to actually give new films a chance and are content to just complain about stuff that isn't true.
Halfway through, when Samaha's face popped up, it was like getting hit with a jumpscare. Turns out I am within six degrees of that man, and my stepdad is in his direct family.
Honestly Producer guy usually the sane one from the pair, it's screenwriter guy who comes up with the shitty ideas and gaslights Producer guy into thinking they make sense. Opposite situation here.
@@saucevc8353 They're a loop of crazy. Producer Guy admits to some weird shit on the regular, though there are moments where sanity breaks through. See Breaking Dawn's PM.
IMDb user rating is better for finding “worst” movies. Tomatometer is just based of what percentage of critics found it bad. Doesn’t capture how bad most people find it. Important difference between unanimously disliked, vs most hated.
imdb is still limited to only yankees (and some bharat people manipulating reviews of bharat films up or down) the population of earth doesn't use imdb
Absolutely fantastic video. Loved every minute. Also I was unreasonably proud of myself for recognizing the movie just from the thumbnail and having been one of the people who saw it in theatres.
OH MY GOD. The revelation that this guy's wife was Tia Carrere makes me REALLY curious about a running gag in the '90s indie mockumentary "20 Dates," where a corrupt and bumbling producer keeps trying to force Tia Carrere on the filmmaker.
@@Suspect_GreenI think they've all 'underperformed.' They are ridiculously expensive to make, and honestly don’t have as much mass appeal as people think. It’s always been more of a cult series than a mainstream one.
@@intergalactic92 The first Mad Max was very low budget and did so well on release it used to hold the record for most profitable movie ever (compared to its budget). Its box office was almost 500 times its budget.
Le Samourai doesn't have any dialogue for about ten minutes after it opens, and it's extremely engaging. In the right hands, silence is a really effective tool.
Man, for Lucy Liu to do this film and Kill Bill only 1 year apart is INSANE. How do you do the worst movie of all time, and one of the best movies of all time within a 12 month span of your career.
@@IhelpertricksYeah. He definitely isn’t top 5. But, I don’t think you have to be a top 5 or top whatever to make one of the best movies of all time. I don’t think many would have Michael Curtiz as even a top 100 director, yet Casablanca is definitely one of the best movies of all time. Vittorio De Sica isn’t top 25, but the bicycle thief is a classic. Charles Laughton isn’t even a top 200 director yet gave us Night of the Hunter.
One film that I think is "So bad, it's good" is the 1987 Universal Picture: *"JAWS: The Revenge"* and in my opinion, it did NOT deserve the 0% rating in Rotten Tomatoes (Note: I just learned that it's been changed to a 2% Rotten rating). Though I will say that it did deserved its 1988 Golden Raspberry Award for Worst Visual Effects.
Best part of that movie is Michael Caine's nonchalant: "oh shit" when the shark shows up. It's one of those movies that are just so fun to laugh at. Definitely watch Richard Jeni's standup routine about it if you haven't seen that :)
@@Suspect_Green You should also look up the film novelization by Hank Searls (who also did a novel for *"JAWS* *2",* albeit based on a early script by Howard Sackler & Dorothy Tristan, rather than the final script by Sackler & Carl Gottlieb). There's a higher body count (human & animal) in the book than in the final film, which includes an epic fight between Papa Jaws and a crippled Sperm Whale (injured with two harpoon; one on his back and the other in its eye, just missing the brain). Plus, there is a supernatural explaination to why Papa Jaws is after the Brody Family: A Haitian voodoo witch doctor named Papa Jacques who has a grudge with the Brody Family and has put a voodoo curse on Papa Jaws. Michael Caine's character Hoagie Newcombe is also revealed to be an undercover DEA agent and was going after a drug lord who was responsible for the death of his daughter, before he decides to help Michael Brody & Jake McKay rescue Ellen as she went off on her vengeful hunt after Papa Jaws.
@@Suspect_Green And lest we forget his iconic quote about his time making the movie of "I have never seen it, but by all accounts it is terrible. However, I have seen the house that it built, and it is terrific!" One of the all-timers.
@@KillFriskey Another quote Michael Caine said: "I won an Oscar, built a house, and had a great holiday. Not bad for a flop movie." Caine had won the Oscar for Best Supporting Actor in Woody Allen's *"Hannah and Her Sisters",* but couldn't accept it himself as he was busy shooting *"JAWS: The Revenge".*
@@Suspect_Green The best part of the film for me is Michael Small's Oscar-worthy music score for the film. You should listen to the 2015 complete soundtrack album, courtesy of Intrada Records, which includes more music cues that're either extended or unused.
This is why I never trust big studios because they'll do stupid crap like this. Sometimes higher ups need to learn to keep to themselves instead of ruining someone's vision.
@@dante_0962Cloudy with a Chance of Meatballs. Phil Lord & Chris Miller were told that the script was funny but was lacking story-wise. The solution was to repurpose the tackle shop owner as Flint’s father, giving the film the emotional core that brought it all home.
Right? They take a person with a business or marketing degree and no actual artistic talent and put them in a position to override those who actually have artistic talent. What could go wrong? The Marvels and Wish maybe?
He directed Tekken 2: Kazuya's Revenge? 75% of that movie is just Kazuya walking around, doing nothing except hearing Cary-Hiroyuki Tagawa spouting nonsense of to scenes from the first Tekken movie without any of the actors. When something finally happens, it's over just as it began, with Kazuya's final fight with two goons. Gary Daniels came back as Bryan Fury but not dressed or acting like Bryan and dissappears before Act 2 was over. Steven Paul is a scumbag and sits on the rights to live action Tekken movies. You'll never see a good one because of him.
Yeah; it's pretty bad. The only thing decent about it is the fight choreography. I've heard that it was filmed BEFORE they got the Tekken rights, and if they failed to attain them, they'd release the movie as its own thing. Hence why barely anything in the movie seems remotely Tekken-esque.
@@Suspect_Green After Tekken 7, I'm gonna pretend the schoolgirl assassin is Lucky Chloe because of the blonde pigtails. I watched the prequel before the original movie and it's like night and day. Tekken 2010 has LOADS of problems but it's paced really well, there's loads of cool practical effects and set designs, and some of the actors who are good for what they were given. I'm not sure what Crystal Sky Pictures and SP Media are gonna do with Tekken, especially with the series being more popular than ever with 7 and 8, including newcomers Leroy Smith and Reina.
I have a soft spot for films that were ruined by studio meddling. I know what it's like to work on a project, only to have it hijacked by the powers that be. For that reason, I can't hate this film, or Alien 3 for example.
I really like Todd in the Shadows' mantra "the worst isn't the most bad, it's the least good." Ecks vs Sever isn't the most bad film, there's just ... absolutely nothing redeeming or interesting about it. It's not a godawful movie that occasionally throws out something wild and cool, it's just a void, so empty and workshopped that I don't think anybody can really hate it, but it's not shocking that not a single person likes it.
Mine? Sucker Punch and Stage Fright (the shitty mean-spirited musical comedy about theatre kids with horror elements, not the Italian slasher film where theatre actors are bumped off by a man in an owl mask). If I were to also include Straight to video/Television movies on my worst list, the Descendants movies would be up there. And if I were to watch them, the Artisan/Book of Shadows cut of Blair Witch 2 and Jezebeth would take the crown for worst (actual) horror movies.
Oh, I know of another one: The Chronicles of Riddick: Escape from Butcher Bay, acting as a prequel to the film Pitch Black and tie-in with the eponymous sequel. The Chronicles of Riddick is often regarded as a case of sequelitis, but Butcher Bay was universally embraced, getting a rerelease-cum-sequel in 2009. It was also my first M-for-Mature game, meaning at the tender age of 13, I could indulge my inner bloodlust and pick up cigarette packs.
They took what would've otherwise been a perfectly decent action flick and turned it into a boring and incoherent mess. Another great video, Suspect! I would love to see more single-movie reviews like these in the future. Maybe you could do one next year on Fant4stic before the new FF flick comes out. Or Wes Craven's Cursed whose production history is quite a doozy in and of itself.
Great video! Knowing how hard it is to even complete a film, shedding light on the passion involved here and the tremendous injustice is really appreciated.
I don’t normally watch films that have a 0% on Rotten Tomatoes, but after watching your video, I think I’ll make an Ecks-ception. I’m sorry… I’m so so sorry.
The games were not tie ins in the traditional sense. They were developed in parallel, based on an early script, but because the movie went into development hell, the game was released a lot earlier than the movie. In fact, the game was released while the movie was still in pre-production. And was indeed reviewed pretty highly.
For this example, to add to the filmmakers' woes, during post-production, "Nine and a Half Weeks," "The Seventh Sign," "Revenge" and "Color of Night" - three studios: Warners, Sony and Disney were to fire many of its fellow crew members, like veteran editor Caroline Biggerstaff, best known for her editing work on "Days of Heaven," "The Stunt Man" and "A Soldier's Story." She was an additional editor on "The Getaway." In 1999, she and Howard E. Smith were first time Oscar nominees for co-editing on Disney's "The Thin Red Line." And then they also fired veteran Oscar winning composer/songwriter Jack Nitzsche who had worked on the soundtracks to many feature films like "One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest," "An Officer and a Gentleman," "Breathless," "Mermaids" and finally, "The Crossing Guard."
I wonder why the director, Kaos, didn't have his name removed from the movie. The "Alan Smithee" credit was created specifically for situations like this, where the studio takes control and creates a product against the director's vision.
After HELLRAISER:BLOODLINE, in which Kevin Yeager, the director, had to constantly battle the Weinsteins. Over the making of flick. He got so disgusted over how the flick got taken away from him by the Weinsteins. That Yeager took his name off of HELLRAISER 4 ,and went with the Alan Smithee alias. This would be the last time this happened. For the Director's Guild said directors were no longer allowed to swap their name out for the "Alan Smithee" alias, and have to own it.
@ikecarr5989 Thanks. I knew they had retired the Alan Smithee alias, but I thought they were still able to disown the title upon situation review from the guild and under a different pseudonym, or some process along those lines.
I'm so glad you mentioned how good the stunts are. Some of the most under appreciated members of the film crew are the stunt professionals. The stunt performers in Vancouver are some of the best in the world and get almost no recognition. I was on set the day the stunt with the fall on the car was done (that's the library in downtown Vancouver which also was used in Get Carter). In my opinion, the stunt community in Vancouver are THE best in North America, and deserve WAY more credit and recognition.
43:06 wait, are you telling me that The Irate Gamer had THE Petter Weller on his show, and James Rolfe had to wear the shell of an NES on his head and cover himself in tinfoil to play as Robocop in the AVGN, what were they thinking?!
Thanks for this, really interesting! Usually when I hear TH-camrs complain about "studio interference" or "executives meddling in the production" of a movie that turns out to be bad, it's just unsubstantiated whining by people with an agenda: "Boo hoo, this multimillion-dollar movie about a comic book superhero wasn't in contention for an Oscar, it must be the studio's fault! It couldn't possibly be that the subject matter is inherently childish and inane -- blame the executives!" It's nice to get a detailed and nuanced look at the actual behind-the-scenes details and a legitimate justification of such claims for once. But then it begs the question... if Ecks vs Sever isn't the worst movie ever... WHAT IS??? Let's hear it, Suspect Green!
I stumbled upon this podcast by accident and was most interested. I'm writing as someone who usually just watches the end result of the film-making process, without thinking about how they come together, and I was fascinated to find out how many things have to be right (the finances, the actors and actresses, the director, the script, the camera-work, the editing etc etc).
To believe that 2 people that were married would believe that they were both dead and not figuring it out is ridiculous. One the dumbest things I have ever seen in a movie.
19:15 Hold up! Tom Cruise was gonna be Spidey? Damn the stunts on that film would’ve been as insane as that one fan film that had a guy literally swing around the outside of a building with nothing but the goddamn rope to hold him all because “he needed the shot”
This just makes me so sad. Hearing about studio meddling always makes me think about how many masterpieces we've missed out on. GoodBadFlicks has a series about this on his youtube channel. I remember his video about Event Horizon. A movie I liked a lot anyway, but after hearing about what it could have been, its hard to watch knowing what it could have been.
The Worst Movie Ever In My Opinion Is Balls Out a raunchy Sex Crazed unfunny gross out comedy that centers around Flag Football that's straight out of the Early to Late 2000's but somehow released In 2015 this Is among several films I have regrets watching like Skid Marks, The Haunted World Of El Superbeasto, Postal, and Blood The Last Vampire
Ecks vs Sever...I endured this piece of shit in the theatre. When I left, I was mad... It was so atrocious. It made zero sense. I was annoyed with the friend who wouldn't leave. But I sat through The Greasy Strangler a few years ago.. And that is the absolute worst thing I've seen. No one in my group would say they wanted to leave, thinking everyone else might be liking it... So we sat through the whole thing. Yuck. My husband still gets mad that we sat through it. It has a cult following.,. Which I don't understand.
Despite its reputation as one of the worst movies ever made, “Simplistic: Bullets vs Humans” (alternative title that one critic gave) didn’t receive any Razzie Award nomination. It only received one nomination at the defunct Stinkers Bad Movie Awards for Lucy Liu as Worst Actress, losing against Madonna
It's great you added the part about his new movie without all that studio annoyance to see this directors own skill. So many people go "yeah the director was fired, the movie would have been great otherwise !" and stop there. Or when studios cancel hyped movies altogether and then everybody thinks this could have been great but they were too scared or something. :D
Seriously fantastic video ❤ The amount of research you put into it was really insightful and it does make you appreciate the movie more. Hope your review gets approved!
17:23, That gnarly gun Banderas is using there isn't a grenade launcher, but I definitely get why you'd think that. It's actually a Street Sweeper shotgun. It did look like incendiary rounds were used, which give off small little explosion as it hit the bridge's concrete. PS, This is by FAR the best review I've seen of this movie, and brother, I have seen a few. Great job! 👍😉
I specifically remember why this movie bombed in India. It was delayed by months. All the marketing hype had died by then. And then it was released to cinemas and the TV channel "Star Movies" on the same day. English movies weren't very popular back then in 2002 in India. But, movieholics like me thought, why go to cinema for this one, when I can watch it at home straight away.
This has to be the biggest surprise of a “f@ck it I’ll watch it” video I’ve had on my feed. Never heard of this channel before and Wasn’t expecting anything of substance ngl but I really like it!
To be fair, you said the guy in "One Night in Bangkok" is not a professional assassin but a regular dude. If they suddenly broke into "Enter the Dragon" style martial arts extravaganza it wouldn't make any sense. So the fighting choreography being "bad" is most likely by design, because while the actor may be a kick-ass martial artist, his character isn't.
9:05 I was excited when I heard Don Davis was doing the music. He’s mostly classically orchestral as hell, more so than Rabin, but I was surprised and disappointed to hear what he came up with.
oh man! I remember seeing this movie as a teenager and thinking it was bad. As a TEENAGER, young male you just wanted action, I was bored. This movie truly is bad.
This was such an interesting story to follow in its entirety! I’m always kind of intrigued by the productions behind closed doors for films, especially when they’re so bad that they’re interesting. Maybe that could serve as a whole video on its own! The best or biggest movies that had the worst atmosphere to work on on-set or something. It would be an interesting juxtaposition. Just a thought though! Always love to see an upload from you, Suspect!
Thanks! I'm thinking of making this a series, giving each troubled production its own video. If this video does well, I think I'd like to give it a go :)
That sounds great! I really liked your video on box office bombs and that had some of this kind of stuff in it, particularly with Cutthroat Island and how the director was a bit up his own arse. It’d be interesting to check out movies, good or bad, that were just not great productions to be a part of. Here’s hoping this video does well!
My headcanon as to how this got made is that some major Hollywood bigwig has a snotty son that really liked Antonio Banderas, and REALLY liked Lucy Liu, and wanted to make a stupid action movie featuring them both for his fetish for dumb action movies, and Lucy Liu gazing down at you in contempt. Then he went under a fake name to save embarrasment for anyone who isn't outright the starring roles.
I own this movie on DVD. I bought it as part of a 5 For $20 used DVD sale at the local Video rental store. I knew nothing about it. I just threw it in to make up the numbers because it had Lucy Liu and Antonio Banderas,
Me and my mom actually rented this movie when I was a kid, and we somehow got all the way through it. The only thing we remembered afterwards was the silly, awkwardly performed death of the main villain. 🤣
Fun fact about Elie Samaha: he was seemingly given an executive producers credit on Asterix at the Olympics WHILE HE WAS ON TRIAL because of his seemingly endless financial accumen. Plus, his name was mentioned in a trial related to the production of said movie and its endless supply of coke and hoes.
43:06 - Hey, Irate Gamer's been having quite of a good resurgence on here over the last few years. This in itself is quite a dang good feat, Especially when he and AVGN did an episode together before this. Pretty surprising to know he's been more active outside of that, Mortal Kombat 11 and the recent Robocop game, too.
I’m subscribing just because it’s nice to hear an accent from near my neck of the woods, making wry and witty comments over an entertaining and genuinely informative video which is clearly made by someone who cares about the topic. Thanks for this. Really enjoyed it and learned a lot.
@@pw6002 never heard of Gattaca so I looked it up and what is with that random yet awesome cast?! The legendary Ernest Borgnine is in it?! Definitely putting it on the watchlist!
@@animetrashamvs You’re welcome ! 🙂 It’s a great movie from the nineties, with a marvelous cast, a solid dystopian scenario and an excellent cinematography.
@@pw6002 90s, dystopian, A grade cinematography? you just named all my favorite things 🥲 seriously thank you, gonna call the buds over and make this a movie night 👏🏾
If you returnt to Franchise Pictures screwing up films, i HIGHLY recommend looking into the production history A Sound of Thunder. A film that was meant to be directed by Renny Harlin (Die Hard 2, Cliffhanger, Deep Blue Sea, and Driven-Stallone's second Franchise film) and star Pierce Brosnan. But both parties left and the director was Peter Hyams (Timecop, End of Days) and due to Franchise running out of money, the CGI in the film was never completed and was forced to use pre-visualization tech instead.
The funniest part about seeing this video is that my only experience with this movie at all is the GBA tie-in video game, and that is unironically the worst FPS I've ever played. 😅
I think Kaos' problem here is that these movies are basically trauma responses to how he got fucked over before. His establishing shots got cut, so he overcorrected and they dragged on. His plotlines got muddied, so he tried to make them more 'obvious' even at the expense of actually telling the story, again, another overcorrection. He just needs time, good crew he can trust, and to relearn the basics of cinema. Then I have no doubt he could be the next great director.
The critic scores on Rotten Tomatoes are notoriously unreliable. It might be 0% critic score, but it is 20% audience score. That might be low, but it is still better than Catwoman or Batman and Robin. There are some universally reviled things with less than 20% audience score where the critic score is bizarrely 90% or more.
Critics may have had more information than the average movie goer, and may have been reacting to how a movie with so much potential was nonetheless not good. I could imagine they didn’t want to reward the producers and encouraging them to waste seemingly huge amounts of money on more bad movies.
I've noticed that films from that late-90s early-00s era now look nearly classical in aesthetics because it was right before CGI really began to become the entire film. I recently watched the unremarkable Vin Diesel Wall Street film Boiler Room for free on TH-cam entirely so I could enjoy cozy shot-on-film images. These sort of middle range genre pictures are now extinct and may as well be arthouse flicks today. Of, and The Pledge is very interesting and worth a watch.
I paid good money to see this in a theater back in the day. There were about 8 people in the theater when it started. Only myself and another masochist were left at the end. We shared a look and shook our heads, laughing on the way out of the multiplex. Unbelievable how bad this thing was. I’m glad that someone like you can find the “good” in it, because I was wondering what in the hell did I just watch (plot wise)?
I find it astonishing that they gave this guy money, even despite the obvious fraud in the past. We have credit checks for that kind of thing, but he just gets millions despite his company declaring for bankruptcy due to a fraud lawsuit?
This movie has got to be the only film in existence set in Vancouver. They film everything here, but the setting is always somewhere else. I’m convinced they filmed this movie and just said “whatever, we filmed in Vancouver, that’s the setting”
I was a fully grown adult, surrounded by nerds when this came out, and I always thought it was part of some comic franchise, right up until i saw this video.
The only good Franchise Pictures movie in my opinion is The Boondock Saints, which is one of my all-time favorite movies. It has Norman Reedus, Willem Dafoe and Billy Connolly, and the sequel, Boondock Saints 2 All Saints Day also kicks ass.
The only thing I really remember about this movie was a scene where a dude is firing a bolt action rifle as a semi automatic. My brother and I couldnt stop laughing at it.
I feel like this is one of those movies that when people complain about how the latest Disney project is the worst thing ever made, I think "have you seen other movies before??".
She hulk, Aladdin, little mermaid, the acolyte and many more are much worse than ballistic and some other "worst ever" films. They just have a massive budget. Remove half the Disney budget and those movies would be in the worst movies ever lists, if they aren't already but I doubt it due to access journalism having everyone licking Disney's asshole like a chocolate chip ice cream.
@kato093 yeah, I disagree. The movies you listed have something good in them. And writing off people's opinions because you think they are sucking up to Disney, I would argue, is not great evidence. For Aladdin, that's almost 400 critic reviews and over 50 000 user reviews you are disregarding. Do you have any proof that those aren't legit?
@@mike9512 yes. Everything disney is getting a pass because of access journalism and sponsors. Same for Amazon. As fir people reviews, sites like metacritic and rotten tomatoes literally changed their review system so they can control the narrative and remove negative reviews. I know for sure that many were fake good reviews from bots because they were single review accounts with the same exact review copy and pasted thousands of time in different languages too (and translated badly with Google translate. The Spanish and Italian ones made little sense and were just 1:1 with the English wording, which doesn't work many times). But that was years ago. Thanks to AI, they can EASILY post fake reviews and nobody would know. Most if X/Twitter is game AI posts. Tons of TH-cam comments are fake posts as well. In fact, most of Twitter and TH-cam comments are bots. Hell, might be the entirety of metacritic and rotten tomatoes could be bots too and maybe your own reviews can be seen only by you (it's what TH-cam does when you get soft banned). And these tv shows and movies don't have anything good except the story behind the existing characters slightly resembling the original and a big budget. Well... WHEN you see the big budget, cuz she hulk looked awful and marvel pays so little that nobody of talent is willing to work on CGI for them so you get amateur trash like secret invasion.. or the Amazon lord of the rings show...no idea where all the money went (its a figure of speech. I know exactly where it all went, with how many diversity officers there were, it's like what happened with the Burn Loot Murder group). And do you seriously wanna tell me that black panther deserved a fkn Oscar?!? That was one of the few modern marvel movies that had something decent and it was a 5/10. And yet everyone jumped on it like it was the best movie ever made when the actual ending look like previs, some of the worst modern CGI I've ever seen in a big budget movie. Disney loses 2+ billion $ every year and yet the media is portraying them as if they make the best and most successful films.
@mike9512 Majority of his comments on here could be summed up by "Disney woke therefore bad" disney sucks for a myriad of reasons but this is typical redpill whining
Thankyou for the Peter Weller reference. Just bought that Robocop Rogue City game today and noticed quite a few of the originals are actually in it at least in likeness, Weller is there both as probably the best detailed face in the game, and its legit his voice too. I just couldnt remember his bloody name despite being a fan and seeing him in a bunch of random stuff since i was a kid.
Hey guys! First off, subs are available here so switch on closed captions if you like! Also, below is a few corrections of things I've learned after this video went up, so feel free to peruse:
- The reason why the choreography is so poor in One Night in Bangkok is because Kaos was only given 4 hours to shoot the final scene. His budget was also super tight.
- Production was moved to Vancouver due to one of the principals of Ballistic refusing to leave North America after 9/11.
you should review animated movies
I should do something about animated flicks sometime. I don't talk about 'em enough :)
@@Suspect_Green I don't think you have EVER talked about ANY animated movie
I did a Toy Story review! :)
@@Suspect_Green I recommend maybe make a list of movies that are bad rotten tomatoes scores but audience likes them like The Boondocks Saints and Law Abiding Citizen. Something like this video you did which I enjoyed! 😊
So you have 2 charismatic leads, a passionate and talented director, god-tier action, and masters of stunt work. This should've been John Wick before John Wick.
Maybe if they'd directed it before 1999. I could see this being a decent late-90s actioner.
maybe it's time to make a Remake ... like ... just make the same movie again, get Antonia and Lucy and Kaos and get to work!
Wait...is the director talented? Though I will say his version would have been much better.
You truly must know how to make a movie ABYSMAL if you have Antonio Banderas and Lucy Liu as the protagonists and yet no one finds fun of it. Simply wow
Yeah, the life of 'em got sapped in this picture. Usually they're both such fun to watch. I can't get over how they wrote in an emotionless, assassin character and cast Lucy Liu for it.
Be good, be bad, be crazy, be brooding, be smart, be dumb, but for god’s sake, don’t be boring.
Reminds me of how in Thor the Dark World, they took a really fun and charismatic villain from the comics, hired Christopher Eccleston, a really fun and charismatic actor, to play him...and then somehow ended up with the most bland villain in the MCU.
That is until "Eternals" with the character Kro, the Deviants leader played by Bill Skarsgård. Up until Icarus turns during the climax, Kro was essentially the main antagonist and he was so underwhelming, I had to look up his name just to figure out what it was.
I thought it was enjoyable as a stupid fun action movie. Far above "worst movie" category. There's gotta be a hundred movies worse than that, c'mon.
The two leads and the director deserved so much better.
Lucy Liu doesn't deserve better, awful actress
@@iaincowell9747
Wrong.
I'm one of the... I dunno, 200,000 people who saw it, and the editing is so bad. So bad. There's one slowmo shot of their legs while they're walking. No explosions, it's not after a fight scene, they're just walking, and the camera goes into slo-mo. For like six seconds. It's incomprehensible. A chimpanzee could edit better than that.
So true, everyone was done so wrong here! 😭
@@iaincowell9747 She is a deeply mediocre actress, for sure. Some people find her pretty and charming and just give her a pass as an actor.
Ah, the tag team duo of Puss In Boots and Master Viper.
They're up against a Z list batman villain too.
Ah, yes. Ballistic. A movie so bad that it was outclassed by its Game Boy Advance tie-in game (based on an earlier, better script).
I mean, you say that like the tie-in games (two of them!) weren’t legitimately good in their genre. The first one came out so far ahead of the actual movie that I was looking forward to this thing!
That damn game made me so excited for this movie....and then I saw it was like " what am I missing, did I not understand it?" My child brain couldn't comprehend it
I'd say the two games -- one written based on an early version of the script before the film was even being made and another made after it came out -- are the *main* reason anyone's heard of this film. They're not even especially good but there was nothing else like them on the GBA that early into its lifetime and the novelty made them noteworthy.
Still better than the dull and overrated Citizen Kane though lol
@@haissem8Gr8 b8 m8 I r8 7.8/8, too old a reference for most of the target audience to get. 😂
I think this is the closest we can get to a vintage Suspect movie review. 1 movie as the subject, over 40 mins long video, breaking down the production and story in an entertaining way, a movie that's not too obscure that it's hard to care about, but not too popular that it becomes a redundant review. This was the most enjoyable video since you moved to this channel.
Wow, thanks so much! I hope this video does well, if it does, I'll definitely do more like it :)
what was his previous channel called?
@@seanm903His other channel’s still around, and it’s called The Unusual Suspect. The videos there are hilarious reviews of movies like the Sam Rami Spider-Man trilogy, The Lord of the Rings, Harry Potter, and more. He moved to this channel after some TH-cam issues he talks about in an update video.
@seanm903 his old channel is called The Unusual Suspect.
There is a fanedit of the movie called Ballistic. It's only 55 minutes long that removes all the boring out of the movie and only keeps the action and whatever there's left of the plot. Also, they used the trailer music from Spider-Man (2002) in this movie.
You mean that one song that goes "I wanna take you on a rollercoaster"?
@@0uttaS1TE No, the first trailer.
@@NewSuperAvengerOhhh, ok. I got my trailers mixed up. Sorry
The trailer for that recut by the way:
th-cam.com/video/2GOuqPqtHkc/w-d-xo.htmlsi=y42JplDYv8zW-Kv8
@@chrisossu2070 the source for the movie is even in the bio
Antonio and Lucy together seems like a nice combo.... Sad to see it was executed so poorly.
Yeah, that does sound fun doesn't it? I wouldn't mind seeing them again together in something else portraying less stilted characters.
Hopefully they get another chance to work together
They should have played cats.
As mentioned in the video, they also co-starred in a comedy called Play It To The Bone shortly before this movie. They have good chemistry, it's a shame they weren't in more stuff together.
I saw that X-Men blooper years ago and wondered what the hell it was. Was Tobey Maguire on set at the same time and decided to come on set as a prank? But this Lear guy now contextualises one of the biggest confusions I've ever had about a random clip on TH-cam.
Yeah, same here! I had seen the clip before and when I was researching about Leva, I had that lightbulb moment. Ohhh!! That was Leva!
This is honestly really sad to see. There is no possible way that this movie is worse than ‘Disaster Movie’ and I can safely say that Kaos did not deserve to be screwed over. As someone who wants to pursue filmmaking, being aware of stories like this is very useful despite how upsetting it may be
we can also flush the last 4 years down the drain...save for a handful of films....
Sonic, Sonic 2, any John Wick that released i think part 3 and 4, top gun 2, Norsemen, godzilla minus 1? and a few others but everything else can be flushed from memory [also I'm going off popular sentiment here and honestly haven't seen anything new since Sonic 1]
modern movies makes Ballistic look like a masterpiece....
I've downloaded 1 movie in the last 6 months and it was from the 80's "Night of the Comet" which I totally enjoyed! I lost interest in what's new and judge this era harshly, recyc for this era! there is no saving it, we need a complete reboot of society!
@@judgedrekk2981mate, you just haven’t found the right films to watch. There’s so many good ones you’re not giving a chance to
More importantly though, this reply was completely irrelevant to what I was saying
@@JAProductions494 i agree with the guy, in last years i saw so many movies that completely disappointed me, Napoleon being the last straw. I'm only coming back in time to explore old movies, recently saw Barry Lyndon, oh boy, comparing it to modern cinematography we are taking only steps back
Note: ensure you have the right to remove your name from the production release in your contract, and make sure you have a screening in there to determine that, and make sure they don’t do it the day before release when it’s “sorry, we already sent the final”.
@@Enkabard I mean it's just factually wrong. There are SO many good, fun, unique films being made in modern times and I honestly don't know where all this talk of 'movies suck now' comes from.
Look at stuff like what Yorgos Lanthimos, Wes Anderson, Denis Villeneuve are doing, all absolutely spectacular takes on cinema with so much unique and beautiful cinematography being achieved. Even the quirky but mainstream stuff people like Edgar Wright and James Gunn have been doing with their films. Not to mention people like Neil McDonagh or Taika Waititi, who make beautifully absurd and heart breaking films.
We're still also getting gorgeous films from classic and modern giants like Nolan, Peele, Tarantino and Scorsese. We're seeing a rise of brilliant action films being made by stuntmen that have a level of action and practical stunt work in them we've never before.
Modern cinema is dripping in unique beauty, new techniques, rising new directors and awe inspiring movies by the bucket load, I find this argument that cinema is dying to be the complaints of people who are making no effort to actually give new films a chance and are content to just complain about stuff that isn't true.
I now want to see a director's cut of the movie
Yeah, even if it doesn't make the movie 'good', I think it'd be fascinating to see.
Me too!
some here are claiming there's a short fan-cut
Halfway through, when Samaha's face popped up, it was like getting hit with a jumpscare. Turns out I am within six degrees of that man, and my stepdad is in his direct family.
Run.
Samaha is basically the Producer Guy character from Pitch Meetings, except real.
"Being a corrupt sleazebag is super easy, barely an inconvenience!"
Oh really?
I need you to get all the way off my back about that borrowed money.
Honestly Producer guy usually the sane one from the pair, it's screenwriter guy who comes up with the shitty ideas and gaslights Producer guy into thinking they make sense. Opposite situation here.
@@saucevc8353 They're a loop of crazy. Producer Guy admits to some weird shit on the regular, though there are moments where sanity breaks through. See Breaking Dawn's PM.
what a rabbithole, never expected to have Darth Maul, Spider-Man and Uwe Boll in the same story. Great work!
Franchise Pictures: we were inspired by The Producers.
I wonder how Constantin Films & Crystal Sky Pictures’ business-practice would be like…
nah that's Uwe Boll, not even joking. He puts out horrible movies for the writeoff. He needs to be directing from inside a German prison.
IMDb user rating is better for finding “worst” movies. Tomatometer is just based of what percentage of critics found it bad. Doesn’t capture how bad most people find it.
Important difference between unanimously disliked, vs most hated.
imdb is still limited to only yankees (and some bharat people manipulating reviews of bharat films up or down) the population of earth doesn't use imdb
Agree. Stinking Spuds ( As I call it) is also easily manipulated by determined groups or cliques of users to reduce the rating.
@@tsartomato So, I'm from some other planet?
@@davidstuckey9289 from yankee planet obviously, david
unless you are bengurion
@@tsartomato Hatten Ihre Eltern noch lebende Kinder?
Absolutely fantastic video. Loved every minute. Also I was unreasonably proud of myself for recognizing the movie just from the thumbnail and having been one of the people who saw it in theatres.
😁
OH MY GOD. The revelation that this guy's wife was Tia Carrere makes me REALLY curious about a running gag in the '90s indie mockumentary "20 Dates," where a corrupt and bumbling producer keeps trying to force Tia Carrere on the filmmaker.
That movie was also produced by Samaha who plays the producer in that film.
@@willieacatAnd the plot thickens even more here...😅
Since Furiosa was shown... It hurts so much to see a beloved film bomb so horribly.
I was quite surprised it got the green light as the original Fury Road under-performed as well. Still, sucks to see cos they're awesome.
@@Suspect_GreenI think they've all 'underperformed.' They are ridiculously expensive to make, and honestly don’t have as much mass appeal as people think. It’s always been more of a cult series than a mainstream one.
@@intergalactic92 The first Mad Max was very low budget and did so well on release it used to hold the record for most profitable movie ever (compared to its budget). Its box office was almost 500 times its budget.
@@Perfect_RiceThey paid some people in cases of beer didn't they?
Critic and fan scores don't pay the studio's bills. The tickets do
Le Samourai doesn't have any dialogue for about ten minutes after it opens, and it's extremely engaging. In the right hands, silence is a really effective tool.
Man, for Lucy Liu to do this film and Kill Bill only 1 year apart is INSANE.
How do you do the worst movie of all time, and one of the best movies of all time within a 12 month span of your career.
Best movies of all time.😂
It’s not even a top 5 QT film.
@jamespohl-md2eq and QT isnt even a top 5 director, so yeah its magnitudes below the category of best
@@IhelpertricksYeah. He definitely isn’t top 5. But, I don’t think you have to be a top 5 or top whatever to make one of the best movies of all time.
I don’t think many would have Michael Curtiz as even a top 100 director, yet Casablanca is definitely one of the best movies of all time.
Vittorio De Sica isn’t top 25, but the bicycle thief is a classic.
Charles Laughton isn’t even a top 200 director yet gave us Night of the Hunter.
It probably helped Liu than nobody watched this 💩, so didn't hold it against her
Kill Bill what? 🤡🤡💩💩
One film that I think is "So bad, it's good" is the 1987 Universal Picture: *"JAWS: The Revenge"* and in my opinion, it did NOT deserve the 0% rating in Rotten Tomatoes (Note: I
just learned that it's been changed
to a 2% Rotten rating).
Though I will say that it did deserved
its 1988 Golden Raspberry Award for
Worst Visual Effects.
Best part of that movie is Michael Caine's nonchalant: "oh shit" when the shark shows up. It's one of those movies that are just so fun to laugh at. Definitely watch Richard Jeni's standup routine about it if you haven't seen that :)
@@Suspect_Green
You should also look up the film
novelization by Hank Searls
(who also did a novel for *"JAWS*
*2",* albeit based on a early script
by Howard Sackler & Dorothy
Tristan, rather than the final script
by Sackler & Carl Gottlieb).
There's a higher body count
(human & animal) in the book
than in the final film, which
includes an epic fight between
Papa Jaws and a crippled
Sperm Whale (injured with two
harpoon; one on his back and
the other in its eye, just missing
the brain).
Plus, there is a supernatural explaination to why Papa Jaws
is after the Brody Family:
A Haitian voodoo witch doctor
named Papa Jacques who has
a grudge with the Brody Family
and has put a voodoo curse on
Papa Jaws.
Michael Caine's character Hoagie Newcombe is also revealed to be an undercover DEA agent and was going after a drug lord who was responsible for the death of his daughter, before he decides to help Michael Brody & Jake McKay rescue Ellen as she went off on her vengeful hunt after Papa Jaws.
@@Suspect_Green And lest we forget his iconic quote about his time making the movie of "I have never seen it, but by all accounts it is terrible. However, I have seen the house that it built, and it is terrific!" One of the all-timers.
@@KillFriskey
Another quote Michael Caine said: "I won an Oscar, built a house,
and had a great holiday. Not bad for a flop movie."
Caine had won the Oscar for
Best Supporting Actor in
Woody Allen's *"Hannah and Her Sisters",* but couldn't accept it himself as he was busy shooting *"JAWS: The Revenge".*
@@Suspect_Green
The best part of the film for me
is Michael Small's Oscar-worthy
music score for the film.
You should listen to the
2015 complete soundtrack album,
courtesy of Intrada Records,
which includes more music cues
that're either extended or unused.
This is why I never trust big studios because they'll do stupid crap like this. Sometimes higher ups need to learn to keep to themselves instead of ruining someone's vision.
Hear hear! Studio meddling rarely ends well.
@@Suspect_GreenThat gives me a idea why don’t you do a video about studio meddling that actually made the film better.
@@dante_0962Cloudy with a Chance of Meatballs. Phil Lord & Chris Miller were told that the script was funny but was lacking story-wise. The solution was to repurpose the tackle shop owner as Flint’s father, giving the film the emotional core that brought it all home.
Right? They take a person with a business or marketing degree and no actual artistic talent and put them in a position to override those who actually have artistic talent. What could go wrong? The Marvels and Wish maybe?
@dante_0962 that would be a good video to do! So much examples to pull from in the films industry!
He directed Tekken 2: Kazuya's Revenge? 75% of that movie is just Kazuya walking around, doing nothing except hearing Cary-Hiroyuki Tagawa spouting nonsense of to scenes from the first Tekken movie without any of the actors. When something finally happens, it's over just as it began, with Kazuya's final fight with two goons. Gary Daniels came back as Bryan Fury but not dressed or acting like Bryan and dissappears before Act 2 was over.
Steven Paul is a scumbag and sits on the rights to live action Tekken movies. You'll never see a good one because of him.
Yeah; it's pretty bad. The only thing decent about it is the fight choreography. I've heard that it was filmed BEFORE they got the Tekken rights, and if they failed to attain them, they'd release the movie as its own thing. Hence why barely anything in the movie seems remotely Tekken-esque.
@@Suspect_Green After Tekken 7, I'm gonna pretend the schoolgirl assassin is Lucky Chloe because of the blonde pigtails. I watched the prequel before the original movie and it's like night and day. Tekken 2010 has LOADS of problems but it's paced really well, there's loads of cool practical effects and set designs, and some of the actors who are good for what they were given.
I'm not sure what Crystal Sky Pictures and SP Media are gonna do with Tekken, especially with the series being more popular than ever with 7 and 8, including newcomers Leroy Smith and Reina.
I have a soft spot for films that were ruined by studio meddling. I know what it's like to work on a project, only to have it hijacked by the powers that be. For that reason, I can't hate this film, or Alien 3 for example.
So this is why Death wanted to kill Puss. He saw his performance in “Ballistic Ecks vs. Sever.”
Alongside Death Wolf going after Puss, Kiddo went after O-Ren Ishi because she saw Lucy Liu’s performance here as well
this while he was jailed (watch carandiru, please)
The main villain from Skylanders directed this movie??
Haha, yeah, he really drew attention to himself with that name. Immediately I was reminded of Stranger of Paradise and Dunkey's review.
I really like Todd in the Shadows' mantra "the worst isn't the most bad, it's the least good."
Ecks vs Sever isn't the most bad film, there's just ... absolutely nothing redeeming or interesting about it. It's not a godawful movie that occasionally throws out something wild and cool, it's just a void, so empty and workshopped that I don't think anybody can really hate it, but it's not shocking that not a single person likes it.
I used to reference this movie all the time. "I'm going to go ballistic... Ecks vs Sever.
Fred Durst would have brought that shit! and dropped that shit! and instituted a STAR WARS Mosh Pit!
Randy Newman has some good Star Wars music. They should use it on the 2024 stuff.
The "Ecks" stands for "ECKSTREME".
I have two movies that I put in my absolute bottom of the barrel: 365 Days, and Transformers: The Last Knight
Mine? Sucker Punch and Stage Fright (the shitty mean-spirited musical comedy about theatre kids with horror elements, not the Italian slasher film where theatre actors are bumped off by a man in an owl mask).
If I were to also include Straight to video/Television movies on my worst list, the Descendants movies would be up there. And if I were to watch them, the Artisan/Book of Shadows cut of Blair Witch 2 and Jezebeth would take the crown for worst (actual) horror movies.
@@NebLleb Stage Fright is a shelf warmer at Dollar Tree. It's always there, and nobody touches it.
What's bizarre is it had a video game that's actually pretty good.
I think it's one of the few times a game tie-in has a higher score than the film.
Oh, I know of another one: The Chronicles of Riddick: Escape from Butcher Bay, acting as a prequel to the film Pitch Black and tie-in with the eponymous sequel.
The Chronicles of Riddick is often regarded as a case of sequelitis, but Butcher Bay was universally embraced, getting a rerelease-cum-sequel in 2009. It was also my first M-for-Mature game, meaning at the tender age of 13, I could indulge my inner bloodlust and pick up cigarette packs.
They took what would've otherwise been a perfectly decent action flick and turned it into a boring and incoherent mess. Another great video, Suspect! I would love to see more single-movie reviews like these in the future. Maybe you could do one next year on Fant4stic before the new FF flick comes out. Or Wes Craven's Cursed whose production history is quite a doozy in and of itself.
Great video! Knowing how hard it is to even complete a film, shedding light on the passion involved here and the tremendous injustice is really appreciated.
0:13 I still can't get over they actually kept this scene as you can clearly see there's a fly on this guy's face.
Vividly remember 25 min into it my Father stopping the VHS, ejecting the tape, and saying "We're taking this back and getting an Arnold movie." :)
I don’t normally watch films that have a 0% on Rotten Tomatoes, but after watching your video, I think I’ll make an Ecks-ception.
I’m sorry… I’m so so sorry.
Groaaaan!
The games were not tie ins in the traditional sense. They were developed in parallel, based on an early script, but because the movie went into development hell, the game was released a lot earlier than the movie. In fact, the game was released while the movie was still in pre-production. And was indeed reviewed pretty highly.
Star Wars soundtrack by Fred Durst?
"All For the Wookie?"
For this example, to add to the filmmakers' woes, during post-production, "Nine and a Half Weeks," "The Seventh Sign," "Revenge" and "Color of Night" - three studios: Warners, Sony and Disney were to fire many of its fellow crew members, like veteran editor Caroline Biggerstaff, best known for her
editing work on "Days of Heaven," "The Stunt Man" and "A Soldier's Story." She was an additional editor on "The Getaway." In 1999, she and
Howard E. Smith were first time Oscar nominees for co-editing on Disney's "The Thin Red Line." And then they also fired veteran Oscar winning
composer/songwriter Jack Nitzsche who had worked on the soundtracks to many feature films like "One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest,"
"An Officer and a Gentleman," "Breathless," "Mermaids" and finally, "The Crossing Guard."
I wonder why the director, Kaos, didn't have his name removed from the movie. The "Alan Smithee" credit was created specifically for situations like this, where the studio takes control and creates a product against the director's vision.
After HELLRAISER:BLOODLINE, in which Kevin Yeager, the director, had to constantly battle the Weinsteins. Over the making of flick. He got so disgusted over how the flick got taken away from him by the Weinsteins. That Yeager took his name off of HELLRAISER 4 ,and went with the Alan Smithee alias. This would be the last time this happened. For the Director's Guild said directors were no longer allowed to swap their name out for the "Alan Smithee" alias, and have to own it.
@ikecarr5989 Thanks. I knew they had retired the Alan Smithee alias, but I thought they were still able to disown the title upon situation review from the guild and under a different pseudonym, or some process along those lines.
I'm so glad you mentioned how good the stunts are. Some of the most under appreciated members of the film crew are the stunt professionals. The stunt performers in Vancouver are some of the best in the world and get almost no recognition. I was on set the day the stunt with the fall on the car was done (that's the library in downtown Vancouver which also was used in Get Carter). In my opinion, the stunt community in Vancouver are THE best in North America, and deserve WAY more credit and recognition.
I was NOT ready for the rabbit hole this video sent me down
#1Percent4EcksVsSever
43:06 wait, are you telling me that The Irate Gamer had THE Petter Weller on his show, and James Rolfe had to wear the shell of an NES on his head and cover himself in tinfoil to play as Robocop in the AVGN, what were they thinking?!
Thanks for this, really interesting! Usually when I hear TH-camrs complain about "studio interference" or "executives meddling in the production" of a movie that turns out to be bad, it's just unsubstantiated whining by people with an agenda: "Boo hoo, this multimillion-dollar movie about a comic book superhero wasn't in contention for an Oscar, it must be the studio's fault! It couldn't possibly be that the subject matter is inherently childish and inane -- blame the executives!" It's nice to get a detailed and nuanced look at the actual behind-the-scenes details and a legitimate justification of such claims for once.
But then it begs the question... if Ecks vs Sever isn't the worst movie ever... WHAT IS??? Let's hear it, Suspect Green!
I stumbled upon this podcast by accident and was most interested. I'm writing as someone who usually just watches the end result of the film-making process, without thinking about how they come together, and I was fascinated to find out how many things have to be right (the finances, the actors and actresses, the director, the script, the camera-work, the editing etc etc).
To believe that 2 people that were married would believe that they were both dead and not figuring it out is ridiculous. One the dumbest things I have ever seen in a movie.
7:20 Trevor Rabin was also a member of the classic rock band Yes. He was the primary writer of their biggest hit "Owner of a lonely heart".
19:15 Hold up! Tom Cruise was gonna be Spidey? Damn the stunts on that film would’ve been as insane as that one fan film that had a guy literally swing around the outside of a building with nothing but the goddamn rope to hold him all because “he needed the shot”
Funny to think in an alternate universe, Tom Cruise Spidey showed up in No Way Home, haha :)
Cannon's *"SPIDER-MAN"*
would have also starred
Bob Hoskins as Doc Ock &
Stan Lee himself wanted
to play J. Jonah Jameson.
Correction 17:20 - That's not a grenade launcher, but a shotgun, most commonly known as the Striker or the Street Sweeper.
LMAO! So, this guy was doing The Producers scam in real life? I love it.
This just makes me so sad. Hearing about studio meddling always makes me think about how many masterpieces we've missed out on. GoodBadFlicks has a series about this on his youtube channel. I remember his video about Event Horizon. A movie I liked a lot anyway, but after hearing about what it could have been, its hard to watch knowing what it could have been.
The Worst Movie Ever In My Opinion Is Balls Out a raunchy Sex Crazed unfunny gross out comedy that centers around Flag Football that's straight out of the Early to Late 2000's but somehow released In 2015 this Is among several films I have regrets watching like Skid Marks, The Haunted World Of El Superbeasto, Postal, and Blood The Last Vampire
As a palate cleanser, try The Jerky Boys. No, wait, I couldn't do that to anyone...
Ecks vs Sever...I endured this piece of shit in the theatre. When I left, I was mad... It was so atrocious. It made zero sense. I was annoyed with the friend who wouldn't leave.
But I sat through The Greasy Strangler a few years ago.. And that is the absolute worst thing I've seen. No one in my group would say they wanted to leave, thinking everyone else might be liking it... So we sat through the whole thing. Yuck. My husband still gets mad that we sat through it. It has a cult following.,. Which I don't understand.
Despite its reputation as one of the worst movies ever made, “Simplistic: Bullets vs Humans” (alternative title that one critic gave) didn’t receive any Razzie Award nomination.
It only received one nomination at the defunct Stinkers Bad Movie Awards for Lucy Liu as Worst Actress, losing against Madonna
Yeah, Swept Away is arguably much worse than Ballistic.
It's great you added the part about his new movie without all that studio annoyance to see this directors own skill. So many people go "yeah the director was fired, the movie would have been great otherwise !" and stop there. Or when studios cancel hyped movies altogether and then everybody thinks this could have been great but they were too scared or something. :D
Seriously fantastic video ❤ The amount of research you put into it was really insightful and it does make you appreciate the movie more. Hope your review gets approved!
17:23, That gnarly gun Banderas is using there isn't a grenade launcher, but I definitely get why you'd think that. It's actually a Street Sweeper shotgun. It did look like incendiary rounds were used, which give off small little explosion as it hit the bridge's concrete.
PS, This is by FAR the best review I've seen of this movie, and brother, I have seen a few. Great job! 👍😉
Damn. I haven't heard of Hollywood screwing someone over this badly since Orson Wells.
Love the fact that at 23:44 (timestamp) the bulk on screen are actual 1000 Thai Baht bills. Awesome video/essay
I’m sorry, but Lucy Liu looking that fine would never get a Rotten Rating from me
I specifically remember why this movie bombed in India. It was delayed by months. All the marketing hype had died by then. And then it was released to cinemas and the TV channel "Star Movies" on the same day.
English movies weren't very popular back then in 2002 in India. But, movieholics like me thought, why go to cinema for this one, when I can watch it at home straight away.
This has to be the biggest surprise of a “f@ck it I’ll watch it” video I’ve had on my feed. Never heard of this channel before and Wasn’t expecting anything of substance ngl but I really like it!
To be fair, you said the guy in "One Night in Bangkok" is not a professional assassin but a regular dude. If they suddenly broke into "Enter the Dragon" style martial arts extravaganza it wouldn't make any sense. So the fighting choreography being "bad" is most likely by design, because while the actor may be a kick-ass martial artist, his character isn't.
I love Lucy Lui and Banderas. It really seems like the studio didn't grease the wheels of the review system.
9:05 I was excited when I heard Don Davis was doing the music. He’s mostly classically orchestral as hell, more so than Rabin, but I was surprised and disappointed to hear what he came up with.
Funny enough, I actually rewatched your actor breakdown of Star Wars episode one just two days before this.
oh man! I remember seeing this movie as a teenager and thinking it was bad.
As a TEENAGER, young male you just wanted action, I was bored.
This movie truly is bad.
This was such an interesting story to follow in its entirety! I’m always kind of intrigued by the productions behind closed doors for films, especially when they’re so bad that they’re interesting. Maybe that could serve as a whole video on its own! The best or biggest movies that had the worst atmosphere to work on on-set or something. It would be an interesting juxtaposition. Just a thought though! Always love to see an upload from you, Suspect!
Thanks! I'm thinking of making this a series, giving each troubled production its own video. If this video does well, I think I'd like to give it a go :)
That sounds great! I really liked your video on box office bombs and that had some of this kind of stuff in it, particularly with Cutthroat Island and how the director was a bit up his own arse. It’d be interesting to check out movies, good or bad, that were just not great productions to be a part of. Here’s hoping this video does well!
My headcanon as to how this got made is that some major Hollywood bigwig has a snotty son that really liked Antonio Banderas, and REALLY liked Lucy Liu, and wanted to make a stupid action movie featuring them both for his fetish for dumb action movies, and Lucy Liu gazing down at you in contempt. Then he went under a fake name to save embarrasment for anyone who isn't outright the starring roles.
The director named himself after the villain organization from Get Smart, How have I never heard of him before?
His name Kaos is actually a shortened version of his real last Thai name
@@cbstevpI’m fairly sure they know, as it was both said and shown in the video
I own this movie on DVD. I bought it as part of a 5 For $20 used DVD sale at the local Video rental store. I knew nothing about it. I just threw it in to make up the numbers because it had Lucy Liu and Antonio Banderas,
Me and my mom actually rented this movie when I was a kid, and we somehow got all the way through it. The only thing we remembered afterwards was the silly, awkwardly performed death of the main villain. 🤣
Fun fact about Elie Samaha: he was seemingly given an executive producers credit on Asterix at the Olympics WHILE HE WAS ON TRIAL because of his seemingly endless financial accumen. Plus, his name was mentioned in a trial related to the production of said movie and its endless supply of coke and hoes.
43:06 - Hey, Irate Gamer's been having quite of a good resurgence on here over the last few years. This in itself is quite a dang good feat, Especially when he and AVGN did an episode together before this.
Pretty surprising to know he's been more active outside of that, Mortal Kombat 11 and the recent Robocop game, too.
I’m subscribing just because it’s nice to hear an accent from near my neck of the woods, making wry and witty comments over an entertaining and genuinely informative video which is clearly made by someone who cares about the topic. Thanks for this. Really enjoyed it and learned a lot.
When I saw this movie as a little kid I said “Well that sucked, but I liked it better than Equilibrium.” And now I understand why.
Equilibrium is a cheap mashup of Gattaca and Matrix.
Really bad.
@@pw6002 never heard of Gattaca so I looked it up and what is with that random yet awesome cast?! The legendary Ernest Borgnine is in it?! Definitely putting it on the watchlist!
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You’re welcome ! 🙂
It’s a great movie from the nineties, with a marvelous cast, a solid dystopian scenario and an excellent cinematography.
@@pw6002 90s, dystopian, A grade cinematography? you just named all my favorite things 🥲 seriously thank you, gonna call the buds over and make this a movie night 👏🏾
If you returnt to Franchise Pictures screwing up films, i HIGHLY recommend looking into the production history A Sound of Thunder. A film that was meant to be directed by Renny Harlin (Die Hard 2, Cliffhanger, Deep Blue Sea, and Driven-Stallone's second Franchise film) and star Pierce Brosnan. But both parties left and the director was Peter Hyams (Timecop, End of Days) and due to Franchise running out of money, the CGI in the film was never completed and was forced to use pre-visualization tech instead.
I wonder if this experience contributed to Hyams eventually retiring from directing. If thats the case, then f*ck these guys. I miss Hyams.
@@FigmentForever I believe that was John McTiernan.
@@kuribayashi84 You’re right. I’ve watched entirely too much “What happened to this successful director/actor/studio” type videos lately 🤦🏼♀️
The funniest part about seeing this video is that my only experience with this movie at all is the GBA tie-in video game, and that is unironically the worst FPS I've ever played. 😅
I think Kaos' problem here is that these movies are basically trauma responses to how he got fucked over before. His establishing shots got cut, so he overcorrected and they dragged on. His plotlines got muddied, so he tried to make them more 'obvious' even at the expense of actually telling the story, again, another overcorrection.
He just needs time, good crew he can trust, and to relearn the basics of cinema. Then I have no doubt he could be the next great director.
The critic scores on Rotten Tomatoes are notoriously unreliable. It might be 0% critic score, but it is 20% audience score. That might be low, but it is still better than Catwoman or Batman and Robin. There are some universally reviled things with less than 20% audience score where the critic score is bizarrely 90% or more.
Aside from Cuties, I can't think of examples of that
Critics may have had more information than the average movie goer, and may have been reacting to how a movie with so much potential was nonetheless not good.
I could imagine they didn’t want to reward the producers and encouraging them to waste seemingly huge amounts of money on more bad movies.
I knew about Uwe Boll but I wasn't aware that we can basically blame the entire "Horrible post-Matrix movies" genre on that tax loophole.
Suspect Versus Cinematic Excrement: Action Movie Edition....
I've noticed that films from that late-90s early-00s era now look nearly classical in aesthetics because it was right before CGI really began to become the entire film. I recently watched the unremarkable Vin Diesel Wall Street film Boiler Room for free on TH-cam entirely so I could enjoy cozy shot-on-film images. These sort of middle range genre pictures are now extinct and may as well be arthouse flicks today. Of, and The Pledge is very interesting and worth a watch.
Fun fact! There was a GBA game that was released ahead of this game. It was a FPS on the GBA.
I paid good money to see this in a theater back in the day. There were about 8 people in the theater when it started. Only myself and another masochist were left at the end. We shared a look and shook our heads, laughing on the way out of the multiplex. Unbelievable how bad this thing was. I’m glad that someone like you can find the “good” in it, because I was wondering what in the hell did I just watch (plot wise)?
That movie is so bad, that the gameboy advance adaptation is better ...
I find it astonishing that they gave this guy money, even despite the obvious fraud in the past. We have credit checks for that kind of thing, but he just gets millions despite his company declaring for bankruptcy due to a fraud lawsuit?
28:30 so basically they were pulling the scheme from The Producers
Yeah, haha! That's pretty much what they did :)
Well, The Producers was a Mel Brooks satirical comedy, and I doubt very much that anything has changed since 1968.
This movie has got to be the only film in existence set in Vancouver. They film everything here, but the setting is always somewhere else. I’m convinced they filmed this movie and just said “whatever, we filmed in Vancouver, that’s the setting”
*The fact you find Rotten Tomatoes as a viable source when it comes to a movies quality is adorable.*
The DVD of _Ecks versus Sever_ came with a simple martial arts fighting app (rock paper scissors dynamic). I guess they knew it was bad.
When i was a kid i watched this movie and genuinely believed this was part of a whole X and Sever universe, like Frdsy Vs Jason
I was a fully grown adult, surrounded by nerds when this came out, and I always thought it was part of some comic franchise, right up until i saw this video.
That fall into the car at 17:55 must have been paid respect on the Fall guy
The only good Franchise Pictures movie in my opinion is The Boondock Saints, which is one of my all-time favorite movies. It has Norman Reedus, Willem Dafoe and Billy Connolly, and the sequel, Boondock Saints 2 All Saints Day also kicks ass.
I saw part of their "In-Laws" remake on TV and it seemed likable.
@@noneofyourbusiness4616 I haven't seen it yet but I'm going to watch it when I get it on DVD.
The only thing I really remember about this movie was a scene where a dude is firing a bolt action rifle as a semi automatic. My brother and I couldnt stop laughing at it.
I feel like this is one of those movies that when people complain about how the latest Disney project is the worst thing ever made, I think "have you seen other movies before??".
She hulk, Aladdin, little mermaid, the acolyte and many more are much worse than ballistic and some other "worst ever" films. They just have a massive budget. Remove half the Disney budget and those movies would be in the worst movies ever lists, if they aren't already but I doubt it due to access journalism having everyone licking Disney's asshole like a chocolate chip ice cream.
@kato093 yeah, I disagree. The movies you listed have something good in them. And writing off people's opinions because you think they are sucking up to Disney, I would argue, is not great evidence. For Aladdin, that's almost 400 critic reviews and over 50 000 user reviews you are disregarding. Do you have any proof that those aren't legit?
@@mike9512 yes. Everything disney is getting a pass because of access journalism and sponsors. Same for Amazon.
As fir people reviews, sites like metacritic and rotten tomatoes literally changed their review system so they can control the narrative and remove negative reviews. I know for sure that many were fake good reviews from bots because they were single review accounts with the same exact review copy and pasted thousands of time in different languages too (and translated badly with Google translate. The Spanish and Italian ones made little sense and were just 1:1 with the English wording, which doesn't work many times).
But that was years ago.
Thanks to AI, they can EASILY post fake reviews and nobody would know. Most if X/Twitter is game AI posts. Tons of TH-cam comments are fake posts as well. In fact, most of Twitter and TH-cam comments are bots. Hell, might be the entirety of metacritic and rotten tomatoes could be bots too and maybe your own reviews can be seen only by you (it's what TH-cam does when you get soft banned).
And these tv shows and movies don't have anything good except the story behind the existing characters slightly resembling the original and a big budget. Well... WHEN you see the big budget, cuz she hulk looked awful and marvel pays so little that nobody of talent is willing to work on CGI for them so you get amateur trash like secret invasion.. or the Amazon lord of the rings show...no idea where all the money went (its a figure of speech. I know exactly where it all went, with how many diversity officers there were, it's like what happened with the Burn Loot Murder group).
And do you seriously wanna tell me that black panther deserved a fkn Oscar?!? That was one of the few modern marvel movies that had something decent and it was a 5/10. And yet everyone jumped on it like it was the best movie ever made when the actual ending look like previs, some of the worst modern CGI I've ever seen in a big budget movie.
Disney loses 2+ billion $ every year and yet the media is portraying them as if they make the best and most successful films.
@mike9512 Majority of his comments on here could be summed up by "Disney woke therefore bad" disney sucks for a myriad of reasons but this is typical redpill whining
Thankyou for the Peter Weller reference. Just bought that Robocop Rogue City game today and noticed quite a few of the originals are actually in it at least in likeness, Weller is there both as probably the best detailed face in the game, and its legit his voice too. I just couldnt remember his bloody name despite being a fan and seeing him in a bunch of random stuff since i was a kid.