Agreed! They simply work so0oo damn go0d! And are as bullet proof as FPV products have ever been. knock on wood - I've never had a single issue with any of my something like 7 Vistas!
@@KOrnhOliO1 Yeah, I think I have 5 vista units. The only problem I've ever had was a broken mipi cable from a crash on the 1st build using the DJI system, but the cable was stretched pretty tight and the build was not very solid. Replaced it with a longer cable and I've never had a problem with any of the DJI products. I think I'd rather have 120fps 720p over 100fps 1080p too.
7:52 - do not test this stuff in low power mode, Air Units will limit them selfs when not armed. Also, to get fastest performance on the O3s with the goggles 2 you will need to set the videomode to 100FPS on the O3. O3 and G2 Combo will work best then you set the video mode to 4:3 2,7k 100fps. It has also the best FOV.
Hi Steele, Goggles 2 feel like 24 fps/low quality on low power mode and the bitrate you noticed is not liying 🙂 No need to fly, I did the same test on the bench with no props. Difference between low and full power mode is night and day in the Goggles (you can also disable Low power mode in the menu if you prefer). It can be seen in the DVR too. I'll post a DVR sample just under this comment, hoping TH-cam will let it be 😅
Here is the DVR showing the difference between Low and Full Power : th-cam.com/video/PuGnnXil42o/w-d-xo.html (I can confirm my eyes see the same thing in the Goggles, even better actually, YT being limited at 50-60 fps)
you have to turn off the low power mode in the comparison, the googles 2 shows the air unit is in low power mode in this mode you only get 30fps or something 😅
There’s a difference. It’s very noticeable. I have no reason to tell you these things other than it’s what I’ve found.. the $2.00 I’ll make from this video is for sure paying my mortgage
There is nothing to explain, i know the new googles 2 has a little bit more latency, dji himself says you get a lower latency on the v2 googles, 😅 but in the comparison is one unit in low power mode, but the other one isnt its maybe not quite the right way to show the difference 😅
Oh dear.. with goggles 2 you need to arm the o3 quad first to exit the low mode and the frame rate will set to 50mbps or 25mbps instead of 7mbps before you arm the quad.. I noticed this when i got my goggles2 with o3. Cheers
@DronePsyche mine is not like that. After arming bitrates go up to 25 or 50mbps and everything is smooth. Do you have goggles 2 your self? 🙂 So its better to mr steele to props off and arm the goggles 2+ o3 quad and redo the test..
@DronePsyche ok im tired, have some work to do.. I used to fly analog with my V1 + digidapter before but it got some latency. Cant freestyle with it so i bougt proper analog goggle.
10:20 How is it possible to connect the V2's to the fly app? Tried everything possible. You can only connect the goggle in FPV mode with a DJI drone. Can't figure it out with a normal drone
I've yet to fly digital but I did buy a new set of V2's a back in the fall. I haven't even opened the box yet. Glad to see some positive things still going for it and I can't wait to try them. Thanks!
Make sure to do the wtfos butter hack on your V2s. The set I got last September were on the firmware that couldn’t be rolled back with Margerine. 3.00.16 or whatever but Butter fixes all that.
After 7 years, I finally went from analog to digital; I got the goggles 2 - never tried the v2 - didn’t believe it was worth it, and the v1/v2 was so bulky like most dji. I can’t afford both...and I still wish the Goggles 2 could be as small as the fatsharks, but at least its much closer to that size than the v2. Regardless, digital is awesome! Happy to experience the change. I had no issue with the update.
My goggles 2 actually broke after not much use, and I was super careful with them. In contrast Ive been throwing my v1's and v2's into my bag with the rest of my stuff for years without issue. Got my goggles 2 back from repair yesterday and thought about selling them, but decided to keep them because I have a set of v2's already and I enjoy the weight/size difference on my face. That said, I have been weighing all of the same plusses and minuses, aside from the frame rate issue you are pointing out. As others have said, I think your test my not be valid in that case because of low power mode. I've noticed no latency/frame rate difference personally.
I do really have problems with Goggles 2 to get the whole image sharp and in focus. I have ordered RHO lenses because they where a breeze on V1 goggles. For Goggles 2 they do not make any difference. I am also thinking about switching back to V2 goggles ...
The hertz difference in your test is so evident because googles 2 and the unit are in low power mode. O3 unit goes to full power mode only when it gets arm signal from fc.
Both were in low power mode though. The O3 air unit connects in low power mode to the V2s until you arm as well. All things being equal, what other simple explanation is there that the video from the v2s is smoother with steele flying both quads. Yes, I understand confirmation bias but I think any reasonable person would come to the same conclusion whether they flew fpv or even if they didn’t. Honestly I haven’t seen one test out there showing that the g2s perform better re: latency or frame rate.
@@SkeezyFPVI agree that experience is the most important thing we have here to make our conclusion. But I want to point out, that the difference in real flight will be much smaller than shown in the experiment. Also, we can see 50 mbps bandwidth in v2 googles here against 7 mbps in g2. The conditions are not equal.
Nothing to do with X Files dude, you just did the test on low power mode, that's ridiculous... Could you at least update the title and description of the video 🤷
8:40 I guess it looks "stuttery" only because OLED have instantaneous pixel reaction time. In Googles v2 you have blurring effect as LCD pixels are not that fast in chaining their colors.
A steel to be clear, the LCD screens have 144 Hertz refresh rate, but you're only getting 120 FPS from the video transmitter. Other than that hundred percent agree. Also I have a very similar shaped face to you and I don't even think I want to take the chance on trying to put goggles2 in the running.
And literally, from a flying perspective, it doesn’t react the same way when it’s flying, I flew both the avata and the o3 air unit. No “ghosting” as soon as you arm. In low power mode it’s less FPS.
Are you planning on selling that little 03 camera mount for your apex? Or selling the files? Really looking for a good solution for my 03 camera and that one looks great
7:35 big mistake here in the goggles 2 you can see a warning that your air unit in low power mode, this majorly decreases frame rate. Does not react the same when at full power. Don't know why the v2 was higher fps Im not happy with goggles 2 though, the optics and fit suck. Id recommended get a used v2 on ebay and get new foam for it.
Since when does the DJI Fly app support the Goggles V2 when using DIY drones? Can somebody confirm this, I haven´t found anything online. I just gave it a try with the genuine Iphone USB-C to lightning cable and it didn´t work.
Hi, at 9:29 you say the old goggles are cheaper, but in the beginning of the video your chart shows them as being $200 more expensive than the new goggles. Which one is correct?
! That was the case on V1 and V2 as well, drastically modified aftermarket foam to fit the previous goggles comfortably.. It is same with the new ones, with added point in nose blocking for some faces. But first modified foam already made it clear in 4:3 elements for me. Waiting for even better one from Ali - haters gonna hate but the screen difference is so good.
@@sos1723 lol I’ve definitely never been told I have a flat face or small nose. The stock face plate doesn’t work for me. Maybe having some cheek bones helps so the nose doesn’t have to bear all the weight…I added a small piece of foam just under the bottom of the faceplate that rests on my cheek bones. That fixed the nose issue for me.
@@sos1723 yes i do not have nose, yet able to fly and fit the goggles myself with edits, same as previous and ALL other goggles I tried. None is perfect without edits. Dunno why ppl are mad :D fpv is expensive, goodbye to firmware development on v1 v2 ;)
I had V1s and wanted to run the 03, so i bought the Goggles 2. After 7 days i returned them and purchased the V2s. Maybe it was just me, but i found the optics to be hideous. Just couldn't deal with not seeing a fully unblurred image.
I was beginning to think I was the only one that hated the new goggles! For me, the biggest gripe, well, the two biggest grapes were the touchpad! It was a total pain in the ass and I was always accidentally touching it and changing something when I didn’t mean to. and the big one was field of view. There was too much that I couldn’t see, battery, read, outs, and things like that. Whereas with the older goggles, I can’t even remember the different names because they’re so similar, I can see much more of the information on the screen, and as you mentioned, I can wear my glasses.
ok... you convinced me 🤣🤣 even on my face they don't fit well I prefer the v2... but do the v2 need to be updated to connect the cable to the dji fly app?
No and make sure you are in airplane mode on your phone if you do plug into the fly app and have ‘auto download updates’ turned OFF in the Fly app settings first if you ever connect to the Fly app or you may get more than you wanted. Do all of the updates on the assistant 2 app from your computer. Make sure you install wtfos butter to root your goggles so you can roll back your firmware. Mads tech has a video on it. It sounds intimidating but it was very simple.
I'm trying to get the goggles v2 working on an iPhone via the DJI fly app but when I plug it in I still get the "connection guide" button instead of the "Go Fly" button. I have the most up to date app. I have an apple cable that goes direct from USB C to lightening. Is there a specific firmware I need on the goggles to be able to do this or a setting on the goggles maybe?
Remove all foam on the v2 and just add some foam on the lower lip under eye segment. Your nose looks like mine. Should fit you too like that. The screen on the V2 is far superior and DJI will likely cut comparability at some point for the old goggle
I don't have any of your issues. Currently there is a FW issue with the Goggles2. Set your transmission to manual channel selection and make sure you have the Ham hack, this fixed all my issues.
i had no idea you could plug the V2 goggles to an iPad. I just got a new ipad after about 10 years since mine died. I can use the USBC cable that came with the iPad...lol Did you do the WTF hack on the goggles for the OSD stuff? I haven't touched my stuff in 6 months since life got in the way.
Good decision dude, love my v2s & 03 unit all I run in my quads. Googles2 not only uncomfortable but they get hot & fog up on hot days my v2s never have.
I purchased my V2 Googles back in November 2021, pushed the needed software with Windows 7, along with the 1200mw hack. Googles worked perfect for 2 months, then the image would freeze up during mid flight, causing me to use GPS rescue on my long range quads that I built. I sent my V2 Googles to DJI repair center and they ended up replacing the Core Board Module for free since this was a known issue for some Googles. If they would have not honored any warranty, the Core Board Module would cost $160 and repair service fee $65. They did remove my skin decal sticker and I had to update the software and 1200mw hack again, V2 Googles have worked great since then.
In low power mode, while the air unit is not armed, the system is on lower fps to reduce heating of the unit and save battery, the mcu will be working low power. I take it dji use ARM mcu's in their units and these microcontrollers have low power mode
I had an o3 unit fly like this, and it almost made me nauseous to fly. It appeared to not have left low power mode even though it said it did. Replaced with a new o3 and it works fine.
I found a decent solution to the goggles 2 foam fitment that gave me a zero light leak fit, and doesn't play tummysticks with the bridge of my nose. It did involve cutting the stock foam away from the face plate for about 2" outside and under each eye, then slipping some thin foam in and gluing it in. But it came out pretty clean. I understand your reasons. The form factor was the #1 jumping off point for me. I am really hoping they do ok without a fan when summer comes. Not putting a fan in was kind of a numb nuts move imo.
One thing: goggles 2 records osd on dvr and phone video out, so you can rewatch all stuffs, include long-lat gps (if needed), but goggles v2 doesnt, when the O3 air unit turn off, video transmitter off and all OSD will go.
It would be cool to see goggle companies do what the new Beyond VR headset is doing which is custom fitting the faceplate to your face. When you order the headset, you take a lidar scan of your face with an iPhone and send them the 3d scan. They use that to make a perfect fitting foam cushion for your headset.
That might be possible by 3d-printing a foam insert that is custom. There is soft flamelike material. Check out colorfab if curious of filament properties. Filament called varioshore.
No you aren't the only one in the world! Very noticeable difference. I can also confirm the very comfortable fit of the old Goggles. Very helpful review!
I have a 2022 M1 iMac. I had no issues at all updating using the DJI FPV Assistant for the Goggles V2 and the DJI Consumer Drones Assistant for the O3 Air Units.
I don't think the stuttering is anything to do with framerate, I think it's because the shutter speed is too fast. The same effect can be generated by using 'Sport" mode on a video camera. It's why they shoot movies at 24 FPS because the eye/brain sees one motion-blurred frame to the next as a smooth transition, whereas it has problems resolving consecutive razor-sharp images as a smooth transition. It's also why camera drones use neutral density filters so the shutter stays open longer to induce motion blur.
It only looks like 1 of these air units was in low power mode... I'm pretty sure they go down to like 10 or 15 fps in low power mode. Doesn't seem like a good comparison.
Thanks for the tip (10:00) about using USB-Lightning adaptor to get video out of Goggles with DJI Fly App. This can be handy, to capture display with OSD too, as can just activate screen recording on the phone before launching on a flight. (eg: for displaying GPS data just in case) What version of firmware you running on your Goggles? This seems like it might have been silently enabled in a firmware update.
Same mr steel you haven’t changed much glad to see that. if something isn’t worth upgrading you don’t lie about it. Still sad digital isn’t as fast or faster then analog. Keep up the good work.
I agree . But I'm getting similar frame dropping with v2 and 03 airunits . No problems with vistas thou . I'm just going stick with vista's. Not overly stoked with 03
Thank god.. Someone who actually shows technical differences instead of complaining about how their glasses fit or how heavy the old ones are. You made my choice very obvious.
I got rid of mine too. I will see what O4 brings in Q4 2024. Hint DJI they they need to fit my face without causing excruciating pain to the bridge of my nose and have wide optics like the v1/2 so my eyelashes don't have to touch to see properly.
Just to rectify.. When armed it stops being laggy! The 2 goggles have 2 completely different behaviour.The new goggles goes in low power mode if disarmed.
Lol you are waving bye to the goggles. I actually could see it! Before a comparison.. I hope osd works soon on the v2. I definitely will re invest my money towards a new frame or ethix product for helping a brotha out. Not to say I won't try them out at some point but my v2 are in good condition. I wonder if they made the glass square if it would help? I assume it would mess the diopters UP? are all oled goggles circle shaped. I heard a rumor of an SE edition but it was probably an old article for these. Thanks dude
I'm starting to learn FPV and chose Avata as currently it's really hard to get specific parts (southern EU) and make own set as beginner. Currently waiting for new foam for googles and I'm really surprised as noone in EU seems to produce that type of accessory even thou googles 2 are definately designed for some flat face type not very common in Europe.
Easy solution for mac users: Bootcamp windows partition. I updated my v2 goggles on my mac, using bootcamp running Windows 10, and it updated just fine.
I don’t understand why you would test the refresh rate with the drones unarmed, low power mode is a lot harsher on O3 than it is on o2.5(vistas and such)
@@MrSteeleFPV you mean having both armed at full power? I’ll have to check it out I guess, am still keeping my v2’s either way because I fly analong with them lol
Oooh that new quad is lit af. I wanna see that led setup man. Are those white leds? I would give my left nut for Dji to work with Runcam on a super low light cam, then run some infrared leds in an array like you're using. For some spy chit.
Great idea!!! I have a PVS-14 night vision monocular I’m trying to decide if it’s worth trying to mount in front of a GoPro bones on a 7”. You’ve piqued my interest lol. We need a low light 03 camera because that’s the weak link right there. PVS-14s are very low latency analog tech and if there was a way to mount it for the fpv cam it would be sick af!!! That’s a lot of money to put in the air though. I’ve dropped them from 20 feet and they are waterproof to 60m so they are durable…. Maybe I need some subscribers and a patreon hahahaha. Omg the sick vids I could make ripping through the woods at night. I’m sure it’s doable but I’m a USMC vet. I eat crayons for snacks. This might be above my pay grade by several notches 😂
@@SkeezyFPV This comment made me laugh😂 Yea man, that's a lot of dough in the air.. and intensifier tubes are so expensive right now! I absolutely would be all over a setup like that.
Hello! very good your tutorial! My question is, using the v2 glasses, is the difference in what is seen in the glasses very noticeable? between old air unit (with dji camera) and o3. Considering old air unit in high quality mode and 50mbps. Regards !
Absolutely. Low power mode works completely different for some reason on the V2. You get about 5ms better latency on the V2 but the difference between 810p and 1080p is so much better, its worth it IMO - IF you can get the foam faceplate to fit your face properly.
Probably. But I still prefer a lot of other things with older goggles. And I do still Notice a difference. Personally. Not trying to sway. Just saying my opinion
@@MrSteeleFPV last summer before the g2s came out I asked you about getting the DJI v2s in the comment section in a vid you did about digital goggles and you responded and said I couldn’t go wrong with them. Thank you. I got the v2s, did my first acro flight on October 6, and now I’m working on my juicy flicks. THANK YOU!!! I appreciate the real life experience you pass on. My fpv goal: force Mr. Steele into retirement 😂 (I already have the Carrera…)
Don't lie please... G2 are 7mbps in low power mode, V2 are 50mbps with low power mode disabled. If you did this test connected to the same O3 you wouldn't notice any difference.
The prices are backwards on the comparison lol 😂. Sorry guys
I'm still quite happy with vistas and the v2 goggles. This hobby is expensive enough as it is.
i say get as much life out of your stuff as you can
Agreed! They simply work so0oo damn go0d! And are as bullet proof as FPV products have ever been. knock on wood - I've never had a single issue with any of my something like 7 Vistas!
@@mdk42o74 It works soooo good and no one ever said we had to have the latest gear to still enjoy the hell out of FPV!
@@KOrnhOliO1 Yeah, I think I have 5 vista units. The only problem I've ever had was a broken mipi cable from a crash on the 1st build using the DJI system, but the cable was stretched pretty tight and the build was not very solid. Replaced it with a longer cable and I've never had a problem with any of the DJI products. I think I'd rather have 120fps 720p over 100fps 1080p too.
Tell me about it. try doing it from nigeria like me where the currency value is shit to a dollar lol
7:52 - do not test this stuff in low power mode, Air Units will limit them selfs when not armed. Also, to get fastest performance on the O3s with the goggles 2 you will need to set the videomode to 100FPS on the O3. O3 and G2 Combo will work best then you set the video mode to 4:3 2,7k 100fps. It has also the best FOV.
but 4:3 DJI should have used 4:3 screens in the goggles 2
indeed 4/3 2.7k 100fps and not in low power mode ...
at least someone got them for the discounted $$ ;)
Also set shutter as high as possible
Interesting. I'm going to guess 16:9 works the same minus the fov part?
Hi Steele, Goggles 2 feel like 24 fps/low quality on low power mode and the bitrate you noticed is not liying 🙂 No need to fly, I did the same test on the bench with no props. Difference between low and full power mode is night and day in the Goggles (you can also disable Low power mode in the menu if you prefer). It can be seen in the DVR too. I'll post a DVR sample just under this comment, hoping TH-cam will let it be 😅
Here is the DVR showing the difference between Low and Full Power : th-cam.com/video/PuGnnXil42o/w-d-xo.html (I can confirm my eyes see the same thing in the Goggles, even better actually, YT being limited at 50-60 fps)
I hope many ppl watch your vid and will understand. Thanks for sharing
@@TERBANGFPV You're welcome 👍
Je me suis presque demandé si il nous faisait un prank 😂
@@asvision83 J'avoue 😅
So glad that I kept my V2's. They may be more of a "Face Box" but they're way more compatible and adaptable to multiple applications
Fake, study
you have to turn off the low power mode in the comparison, the googles 2 shows the air unit is in low power mode in this mode you only get 30fps or something 😅
Arm the quad in crash flip and you’ll get out of it, or turn off auto temp control
They are both o3 though …. Explain that
There’s a difference. It’s very noticeable. I have no reason to tell you these things other than it’s what I’ve found.. the $2.00 I’ll make from this video is for sure paying my mortgage
The results will be the same my guy
There is nothing to explain, i know the new googles 2 has a little bit more latency, dji himself says you get a lower latency on the v2 googles, 😅 but in the comparison is one unit in low power mode, but the other one isnt its maybe not quite the right way to show the difference 😅
Oh dear.. with goggles 2 you need to arm the o3 quad first to exit the low mode and the frame rate will set to 50mbps or 25mbps instead of 7mbps before you arm the quad..
I noticed this when i got my goggles2 with o3.
Cheers
Same as V2. Theyre both on low power mode.
he is comparing the refresh rate of the two goggles, not the frame rate. refresh rate is fixed and will not change regardless of the power mode. 🍻
@DronePsyche if you got goggles 2 then you will understand what i said. Goggles2 images is 7mbps only before armed. And this is not happen with v2.
@DronePsyche mine is not like that. After arming bitrates go up to 25 or 50mbps and everything is smooth. Do you have goggles 2 your self? 🙂
So its better to mr steele to props off and arm the goggles 2+ o3 quad and redo the test..
@DronePsyche ok im tired, have some work to do.. I used to fly analog with my V1 + digidapter before but it got some latency. Cant freestyle with it so i bougt proper analog goggle.
yes master,take out micro un o3,the inperpulipar distance in my case 71-72mm,when is open left zone...close right zone...
thanks for the conclusions, i own v2 and have just been waiting a bit to get into 03, and now i know i dont need to bother with the new goggles
10:20 How is it possible to connect the V2's to the fly app? Tried everything possible. You can only connect the goggle in FPV mode with a DJI drone. Can't figure it out with a normal drone
Only with o3
I've yet to fly digital but I did buy a new set of V2's a back in the fall. I haven't even opened the box yet. Glad to see some positive things still going for it and I can't wait to try them. Thanks!
What are you waiting for, dive in sir 🙌 holla if you need some help
@@Fly_High_FPV Thanks man. I plan on jumping on board this spring. I'm just trying to keep the priorities first but I'll get there.
Make sure to do the wtfos butter hack on your V2s. The set I got last September were on the firmware that couldn’t be rolled back with Margerine. 3.00.16 or whatever but Butter fixes all that.
I'm missing your "The three musketeer" type mustache... 🤣
Thanks Steele!! Always like to hear your take!
After 7 years, I finally went from analog to digital; I got the goggles 2 - never tried the v2 - didn’t believe it was worth it, and the v1/v2 was so bulky like most dji. I can’t afford both...and I still wish the Goggles 2 could be as small as the fatsharks, but at least its much closer to that size than the v2. Regardless, digital is awesome! Happy to experience the change. I had no issue with the update.
My goggles 2 actually broke after not much use, and I was super careful with them. In contrast Ive been throwing my v1's and v2's into my bag with the rest of my stuff for years without issue. Got my goggles 2 back from repair yesterday and thought about selling them, but decided to keep them because I have a set of v2's already and I enjoy the weight/size difference on my face. That said, I have been weighing all of the same plusses and minuses, aside from the frame rate issue you are pointing out. As others have said, I think your test my not be valid in that case because of low power mode. I've noticed no latency/frame rate difference personally.
I do really have problems with Goggles 2 to get the whole image sharp and in focus. I have ordered RHO lenses because they where a breeze on V1 goggles. For Goggles 2 they do not make any difference. I am also thinking about switching back to V2 goggles ...
The hertz difference in your test is so evident because googles 2 and the unit are in low power mode. O3 unit goes to full power mode only when it gets arm signal from fc.
Both were in low power mode though. The O3 air unit connects in low power mode to the V2s until you arm as well. All things being equal, what other simple explanation is there that the video from the v2s is smoother with steele flying both quads. Yes, I understand confirmation bias but I think any reasonable person would come to the same conclusion whether they flew fpv or even if they didn’t. Honestly I haven’t seen one test out there showing that the g2s perform better re: latency or frame rate.
@@SkeezyFPVI agree that experience is the most important thing we have here to make our conclusion. But I want to point out, that the difference in real flight will be much smaller than shown in the experiment. Also, we can see 50 mbps bandwidth in v2 googles here against 7 mbps in g2. The conditions are not equal.
Do you need specific firmware to have video out via the dji fly app? Or it works just with O3s?
I asked this too. Hopefully someone can add some more context.
Have we got an answer to this question? When I connect to the DJI Fly app it doesn’t give me the ‘go fly’ button
Nothing to do with X Files dude, you just did the test on low power mode, that's ridiculous... Could you at least update the title and description of the video 🤷
Its the same on high power.
@@stst8301 Absolutely not th-cam.com/video/PuGnnXil42o/w-d-xo.html :D
Video out to iOS devices only works with 03 air unit. Original air unit and vista don’t work
Only issue I have ever had with big ones is them letting light in a bit. Aftermarket foam and they’re gold.
Good truthful comparison, especially about the twitchy picture
8:40 I guess it looks "stuttery" only because OLED have instantaneous pixel reaction time. In Googles v2 you have blurring effect as LCD pixels are not that fast in chaining their colors.
A steel to be clear, the LCD screens have 144 Hertz refresh rate, but you're only getting 120 FPS from the video transmitter.
Other than that hundred percent agree. Also I have a very similar shaped face to you and I don't even think I want to take the chance on trying to put goggles2 in the running.
And literally, from a flying perspective, it doesn’t react the same way when it’s flying, I flew both the avata and the o3 air unit. No “ghosting” as soon as you arm. In low power mode it’s less FPS.
Are you planning on selling that little 03 camera mount for your apex? Or selling the files? Really looking for a good solution for my 03 camera and that one looks great
7:35 big mistake here in the goggles 2 you can see a warning that your air unit in low power mode, this majorly decreases frame rate. Does not react the same when at full power. Don't know why the v2 was higher fps
Im not happy with goggles 2 though, the optics and fit suck. Id recommended get a used v2 on ebay and get new foam for it.
"they're dumb, I don't like smart batteries that much" lmao
Since when does the DJI Fly app support the Goggles V2 when using DIY drones? Can somebody confirm this, I haven´t found anything online. I just gave it a try with the genuine Iphone USB-C to lightning cable and it didn´t work.
Hi, at 9:29 you say the old goggles are cheaper, but in the beginning of the video your chart shows them as being $200 more expensive than the new goggles. Which one is correct?
You just saved me like $500. Thx homie
Love the goggles 2 personally. I did have to buy aftermarket foam to make them fit comfortably though.
! That was the case on V1 and V2 as well, drastically modified aftermarket foam to fit the previous goggles comfortably.. It is same with the new ones, with added point in nose blocking for some faces. But first modified foam already made it clear in 4:3 elements for me. Waiting for even better one from Ali - haters gonna hate but the screen difference is so good.
@@tomaszboril Yep, exactly.
You have a flat face and no nose???
@@sos1723 lol I’ve definitely never been told I have a flat face or small nose. The stock face plate doesn’t work for me. Maybe having some cheek bones helps so the nose doesn’t have to bear all the weight…I added a small piece of foam just under the bottom of the faceplate that rests on my cheek bones. That fixed the nose issue for me.
@@sos1723 yes i do not have nose, yet able to fly and fit the goggles myself with edits, same as previous and ALL other goggles I tried. None is perfect without edits. Dunno why ppl are mad :D fpv is expensive, goodbye to firmware development on v1 v2 ;)
Yeah, I had issues updating on mac os as well. I ended up running windows in a virtual machine since I didnt have my PC
updatable on mac
just need to mod the cable to use a 7.4V lion
Steele 😂🫶🙏 low Power mode Opppps❤️
I didn't jump on the DJI Goggles 2 hypetrain because I'm a cheapstake but it makes me happy that I get the smoothest picture possible atm on DJI.
ARM THE QUAD! they’re in low mode otherwise.
I had V1s and wanted to run the 03, so i bought the Goggles 2. After 7 days i returned them and purchased the V2s. Maybe it was just me, but i found the optics to be hideous. Just couldn't deal with not seeing a fully unblurred image.
I was beginning to think I was the only one that hated the new goggles! For me, the biggest gripe, well, the two biggest grapes were the touchpad! It was a total pain in the ass and I was always accidentally touching it and changing something when I didn’t mean to. and the big one was field of view. There was too much that I couldn’t see, battery, read, outs, and things like that. Whereas with the older goggles, I can’t even remember the different names because they’re so similar, I can see much more of the information on the screen, and as you mentioned, I can wear my glasses.
You can lock the TouchPad so you don't accidentally touch it.
ok... you convinced me 🤣🤣 even on my face they don't fit well I prefer the v2... but do the v2 need to be updated to connect the cable to the dji fly app?
No and make sure you are in airplane mode on your phone if you do plug into the fly app and have ‘auto download updates’ turned OFF in the Fly app settings first if you ever connect to the Fly app or you may get more than you wanted. Do all of the updates on the assistant 2 app from your computer. Make sure you install wtfos butter to root your goggles so you can roll back your firmware. Mads tech has a video on it. It sounds intimidating but it was very simple.
@@SkeezyFPV ok i will try even if with a guide or a video it would have been easier 😅 thx
We've had the DigiView app for a couple of years. That's what I use. Works exactly how he described...and very well too!
Seems other than the form factor of the goggles 2, that aren’t that comfortable, the V2 goggles are better!
Plus, you can fly analog really well on the V2 goggles!
I'm trying to get the goggles v2 working on an iPhone via the DJI fly app but when I plug it in I still get the "connection guide" button instead of the "Go Fly" button. I have the most up to date app. I have an apple cable that goes direct from USB C to lightening. Is there a specific firmware I need on the goggles to be able to do this or a setting on the goggles maybe?
Remove all foam on the v2 and just add some foam on the lower lip under eye segment. Your nose looks like mine. Should fit you too like that. The screen on the V2 is far superior and DJI will likely cut comparability at some point for the old goggle
It does work on a mac i did it just need to plug in the dji cable to computer and not goggles to get connected with the dji assistant 2
Give use the info on how you mounted the camera. It looks really good. And it looks like it clears the standoffs in view???
I bought the V2's as my big head can use all the room it can get. Being cheaper/better was a bonus.
I agree too I'm using the v2 too
I don't have any of your issues. Currently there is a FW issue with the Goggles2. Set your transmission to manual channel selection and make sure you have the Ham hack, this fixed all my issues.
i had no idea you could plug the V2 goggles to an iPad. I just got a new ipad after about 10 years since mine died. I can use the USBC cable that came with the iPad...lol Did you do the WTF hack on the goggles for the OSD stuff? I haven't touched my stuff in 6 months since life got in the way.
Good decision dude, love my v2s & 03 unit all I run in my quads. Googles2 not only uncomfortable but they get hot & fog up on hot days my v2s never have.
I purchased my V2 Googles back in November 2021, pushed the needed software with Windows 7, along with the 1200mw hack. Googles worked perfect for 2 months, then the image would freeze up during mid flight, causing me to use GPS rescue on my long range quads that I built. I sent my V2 Googles to DJI repair center and they ended up replacing the Core Board Module for free since this was a known issue for some Googles. If they would have not honored any warranty, the Core Board Module would cost $160 and repair service fee $65. They did remove my skin decal sticker and I had to update the software and 1200mw hack again, V2 Googles have worked great since then.
In low power mode, while the air unit is not armed, the system is on lower fps to reduce heating of the unit and save battery, the mcu will be working low power. I take it dji use ARM mcu's in their units and these microcontrollers have low power mode
Thank you sir for the honest comparison 😁
I love my V2 goggles especially with the new hack to now run custom code one them.
Wow!
Thanks for showing the difference Mr Steele. Was trying to decide between these today.
Thanks Mr. Steele
I was considering a purchase but will stick with my old V2s.
i only have the googles 2 and I'm happy with it. What I wish would improve is transmission distance. Maybe improve the antenna geometry?
If you find a set of v2 just use them and make the comparison.
I had an o3 unit fly like this, and it almost made me nauseous to fly. It appeared to not have left low power mode even though it said it did. Replaced with a new o3 and it works fine.
I found a decent solution to the goggles 2 foam fitment that gave me a zero light leak fit, and doesn't play tummysticks with the bridge of my nose. It did involve cutting the stock foam away from the face plate for about 2" outside and under each eye, then slipping some thin foam in and gluing it in. But it came out pretty clean. I understand your reasons. The form factor was the #1 jumping off point for me. I am really hoping they do ok without a fan when summer comes. Not putting a fan in was kind of a numb nuts move imo.
One thing: goggles 2 records osd on dvr and phone video out, so you can rewatch all stuffs, include long-lat gps (if needed), but goggles v2 doesnt, when the O3 air unit turn off, video transmitter off and all OSD will go.
I'm glad that my V2 still work well with the 03 units. Perfect combo For me also
Why are the v2 set at 50mb and the goggles 2 at 7mb?
I did exactly like you with the Old V2 Goggles Nose piece haha I needed to cut it for it to fit properly with the new foam. Big noses unite! :P
It would be cool to see goggle companies do what the new Beyond VR headset is doing which is custom fitting the faceplate to your face. When you order the headset, you take a lidar scan of your face with an iPhone and send them the 3d scan. They use that to make a perfect fitting foam cushion for your headset.
Crazy!😄
That might be possible by 3d-printing a foam insert that is custom. There is soft flamelike material. Check out colorfab if curious of filament properties. Filament called varioshore.
No you aren't the only one in the world! Very noticeable difference. I can also confirm the very comfortable fit of the old Goggles.
Very helpful review!
the line from deuce bigalo was hilarius! 😂
Hey I just updated the firmware on my Goggles V2 and all my O3 Air Units last night on my M1 iMac no problem.😁
I have a 2022 M1 iMac. I had no issues at all updating using the DJI FPV Assistant for the Goggles V2 and the DJI Consumer Drones Assistant for the O3 Air Units.
Yeah, I can see the difference. well done.
wanted to switch from analog to digital and you convinced me to buy a V2 goggles+air unit o3. the next days we will see how it works for me
I don't think the stuttering is anything to do with framerate, I think it's because the shutter speed is too fast. The same effect can be generated by using 'Sport" mode on a video camera. It's why they shoot movies at 24 FPS because the eye/brain sees one motion-blurred frame to the next as a smooth transition, whereas it has problems resolving consecutive razor-sharp images as a smooth transition. It's also why camera drones use neutral density filters so the shutter stays open longer to induce motion blur.
It only looks like 1 of these air units was in low power mode... I'm pretty sure they go down to like 10 or 15 fps in low power mode.
Doesn't seem like a good comparison.
the padding you use on your "old" V2`s looks soo comfortable!
Hold on - at 10:13 - this is for O3 unit or regardless of vtx, the v2 will output to an ipad via Dji fly app??
thanks for the video buddy! Very Interesting findings. Appreciate you sharing this
Good afternoon, please tell me how you got the opportunity to display the image from your goggles v2 on the iPhone?
Yup sold mine too, fuck those things. V2’s ALL DAY!
still rocking v1 and og air units
Thanks for the tip (10:00) about using USB-Lightning adaptor to get video out of Goggles with DJI Fly App. This can be handy, to capture display with OSD too, as can just activate screen recording on the phone before launching on a flight. (eg: for displaying GPS data just in case)
What version of firmware you running on your Goggles? This seems like it might have been silently enabled in a firmware update.
Just a heads up... it works with a basic usb c to lightning cable as well
what do you mean about the walksnail system ? now with some updates?
Major difference. Thanks for the video.
I don't know what he did with that goggle, but my is super smooth . Others have also blury hand when waving hand?
Same mr steel you haven’t changed much glad to see that. if something isn’t worth upgrading you don’t lie about it. Still sad digital isn’t as fast or faster then analog. Keep up the good work.
I agree . But I'm getting similar frame dropping with v2 and 03 airunits . No problems with vistas thou . I'm just going stick with vista's. Not overly stoked with 03
Maybe its a wrong setting?
Thank god.. Someone who actually shows technical differences instead of complaining about how their glasses fit or how heavy the old ones are. You made my choice very obvious.
You should read the post about low power mode (the most upvoted post) before making your choice, this video is technically inaccurate
I got rid of mine too. I will see what O4 brings in Q4 2024. Hint DJI they they need to fit my face without causing excruciating pain to the bridge of my nose and have wide optics like the v1/2 so my eyelashes don't have to touch to see properly.
Just to rectify.. When armed it stops being laggy! The 2 goggles have 2 completely different behaviour.The new goggles goes in low power mode if disarmed.
Just to clarify,absolutely the same behavior on v2 goggles...
Lol you are waving bye to the goggles. I actually could see it! Before a comparison.. I hope osd works soon on the v2. I definitely will re invest my money towards a new frame or ethix product for helping a brotha out. Not to say I won't try them out at some point but my v2 are in good condition. I wonder if they made the glass square if it would help? I assume it would mess the diopters UP? are all oled goggles circle shaped. I heard a rumor of an SE edition but it was probably an old article for these. Thanks dude
I just bought v1's because with wtfos you can get live audio with the original air units with Steele earbud 🙂. Perfect combination for me.
I'm starting to learn FPV and chose Avata as currently it's really hard to get specific parts (southern EU) and make own set as beginner.
Currently waiting for new foam for googles and I'm really surprised as noone in EU seems to produce that type of accessory even thou googles 2 are definately designed for some flat face type not very common in Europe.
Someone finally said it!!!! 😂👍👍👍👍
That's what me and my friend were talking about, when we first tried on goggles 2. Chinese people made them for themselves. 🤣👲🐲🈴
I'm sticking also with the v2
Easy solution for mac users: Bootcamp windows partition. I updated my v2 goggles on my mac, using bootcamp running Windows 10, and it updated just fine.
I don’t understand why you would test the refresh rate with the drones unarmed, low power mode is a lot harsher on O3 than it is on o2.5(vistas and such)
From my testing it’s still
The same result
@@MrSteeleFPV you mean having both armed at full power? I’ll have to check it out I guess, am still keeping my v2’s either way because I fly analong with them lol
Oooh that new quad is lit af. I wanna see that led setup man. Are those white leds? I would give my left nut for Dji to work with Runcam on a super low light cam, then run some infrared leds in an array like you're using. For some spy chit.
Great idea!!! I have a PVS-14 night vision monocular I’m trying to decide if it’s worth trying to mount in front of a GoPro bones on a 7”. You’ve piqued my interest lol. We need a low light 03 camera because that’s the weak link right there. PVS-14s are very low latency analog tech and if there was a way to mount it for the fpv cam it would be sick af!!! That’s a lot of money to put in the air though. I’ve dropped them from 20 feet and they are waterproof to 60m so they are durable…. Maybe I need some subscribers and a patreon hahahaha. Omg the sick vids I could make ripping through the woods at night. I’m sure it’s doable but I’m a USMC vet. I eat crayons for snacks. This might be above my pay grade by several notches 😂
@@SkeezyFPV This comment made me laugh😂 Yea man, that's a lot of dough in the air.. and intensifier tubes are so expensive right now! I absolutely would be all over a setup like that.
All I mainly fly is dji and I love there stuff but I do agree with Steele that you can still feel the difference of latency while flying to.
good explain dood! i feel yah i love my v2's. lil bro got the avata... lol i think the goggles have cool fetures but lost the 144. :(
Hello! very good your tutorial! My question is, using the v2 glasses, is the difference in what is seen in the glasses very noticeable? between old air unit (with dji camera) and o3.
Considering old air unit in high quality mode and 50mbps.
Regards !
I just got a pair of Goggles 2. I’m cutting a cord and installing a 9v bec to an XT60 connector.
hmmmm I find arming the quad instantly make the image smoother....and I can't tell the difference between v2 and 2 other than image quality
Absolutely. Low power mode works completely different for some reason on the V2. You get about 5ms better latency on the V2 but the difference between 810p and 1080p is so much better, its worth it IMO - IF you can get the foam faceplate to fit your face properly.
Probably. But I still prefer a lot of other things with older goggles. And I do still
Notice a difference. Personally. Not trying to sway. Just saying my opinion
@@MrSteeleFPV last summer before the g2s came out I asked you about getting the DJI v2s in the comment section in a vid you did about digital goggles and you responded and said I couldn’t go wrong with them. Thank you. I got the v2s, did my first acro flight on October 6, and now I’m working on my juicy flicks. THANK YOU!!! I appreciate the real life experience you pass on. My fpv goal: force Mr. Steele into retirement 😂 (I already have the Carrera…)
Don't lie please... G2 are 7mbps in low power mode, V2 are 50mbps with low power mode disabled. If you did this test connected to the same O3 you wouldn't notice any difference.
What shutter speed do you use on the o3? This has direct impact on the fpv feed
When undidnthe hand wave refresh rate test it's because it's in low voltage once the drone starts it don't do that any more in mine. On the avata.