Brew has 2 players above 3.5 veng and blood have 0 (blood has literally just 1 player over 3.4 even) people need to stop this brew is terrible narrative If you go through the top tanks you have 1 Druid and then 2 brews before you even see a warrior, dk or DH. Brew isn’t bad
@@Dilllll26 yeah i have no idea why people think brew is bad. it's actually in a great place in my opinion. according to archon it's the third best tank for both m+ and raid. i've been playing it as an alt, feels great
@@jurgenbuntinx1 there’s barely even an 8 mob pull in GB and yeh but it can barely survive the melees of a 16 grim let alone 17. Literally one dk in the world has timed it on 16
@@Dilllll26 yeah as a BDK the mobs melee attacks there hit way to hard the big damage attacks like the ones here tho are easy to mitigate with dk barely take any damage, big pulls are out of the question unless I got a stun happy group to help mitigate, 11 is my best time. other dungeons I have no problem pulling 2 packs
Might aswell be a blood dk nerf, since the tanks who’s niche is mitigating physical damage are now better at handling the one thing dk was semi decent at (magic tankbusters…) Not that anyone plays blood anymore
BrM main who is undergeared and just starting to push into 11’s. These tank busters are now literally tickles, don’t even need a CD for them. The upper mid level key push is going to be insanely easier for me. White damage on the other hand.
They gotta try to keep those 1% pushers slamming their heads into walls for a few more weeks instead of taking a break because god forbid that'd hurt player engagement metrics and twitch viewer counts for WoW. Why is the thought of letting people being "done" so bad and letting people go and enjoy other games for a bit?
why? I don't understand this at all. Sure this will make things a bit easier but It changes nothing about what sucks with M+ right now. And we soon have a new season anyway...
What's your point? Devs shouldn't try to fix any issues because they don't fix all the issues at the same time? Tank nerfs in this season compared to DF has lots to do with what sucks in m+ right now because nobody is playing goddamn tanks and healers and 90% of players are just waiting for insane amount of time to get keys started. And if the season is over for you, it's not for me, I didn't start to push at the start of the season and I still have to get my 3k, but among the friends I play with, there isn't a tank that can handle a +13 right now. This might help a lot.
@@DS-ph7zy yes but blood dk was so insanely broken that they were about 3 key levels above us, certain keys even more. In upper Kara we were capped at +25 because we couldn’t survive 2nd boss.
@@eps-nx8zg sorry should have clarified, tyrannical, and there was only one in the world that did 28. there were about 3 or 4 others that did a 27, rest were stuck at 25/26
Shadowflame slash (GB mob tankbuster) should be nerfed more. I think it's weird that this mob have strongest attack entire dungeon/raids in s1 tww compare to any boss/mob lol :)
I feel like this season was already one of the easiest for tanks. If I think of season 1 Dragonflight for example...my DK was literally one-shot by the storm dragon at the top of the ring. You had to use a def CD for every tank buster, but DK having so little and the mob casting so frequently meant just certain death and an ended run. The bird boss at Academy, storm Ragnaros at Ohn'ahran Plains, Hyrja at HoV, just to name a few, all hit harder than anything I've seen in War Within.
thanks for content ma man,i would appriciate if you play vdh a bit and make a video about talents and builds that are viable in 12+ keys in live game,last video that you have on vdh is from ptr and an update can be great
@@arsinsohrabi759 no he doesnt, squishvegan showed u can time 17s and 18s with guardian druid just fine, obviously prot warrior is also very good and brewmaster too has high timings. Only bdh and blood dk are a bit bad. Fotm rerollers are sheep imo. Like if ure offmeta dps not able to get into keys, then rerolling is understandable. But as a tank??? Ure already so desirable as a tank, theres no need to reroll and be a meta slave. Just so stupid.
@@kerkertrandov459 i dont agree,if you want to give your team maximum value you play the meta tank cause they are playing the meta healer and dps but the only difference in lower brackets like 12-14 atm is that if you play non-meta you get less invites and what you are saying is correct in that bracket.
So annoying all these people crying about historically bad m+ tanks still being bad. Just learn a new tank. No, just cry for multiple seasons and expansions and achieve nothing
WTB tank buffs for all non-pala tanks too, they need it!
Not really, only Brew, VDH and Blood need help
No tanks dont need buffs. Dungeons need redesigns. Maybe monk need buff
Brew so down bad they don't even get a shoutout when mentioning tanks this helps
Lmao
Brew has 2 players above 3.5 veng and blood have 0 (blood has literally just 1 player over 3.4 even) people need to stop this brew is terrible narrative
If you go through the top tanks you have 1 Druid and then 2 brews before you even see a warrior, dk or DH. Brew isn’t bad
What’s Brew?
@@Dilllll26 yeah i have no idea why people think brew is bad. it's actually in a great place in my opinion. according to archon it's the third best tank for both m+ and raid. i've been playing it as an alt, feels great
@@Dilllll26 but how many brewmasters vs blood dk are there
this is the "oh no we have no tank player base....please guys we are sorry come back to play tank nerf, to make it less miserable for tanks"
Blood is still f'd. Imagine that.
Blood fkd? Get good, we had a blood dk soloing grim batol 8 pack in a +15... that tank needs to be nerfed to the ground
@@jurgenbuntinx1 there’s barely even an 8 mob pull in GB and yeh but it can barely survive the melees of a 16 grim let alone 17.
Literally one dk in the world has timed it on 16
@@Dilllll26 yeah as a BDK the mobs melee attacks there hit way to hard the big damage attacks like the ones here tho are easy to mitigate with dk barely take any damage, big pulls are out of the question unless I got a stun happy group to help mitigate, 11 is my best time. other dungeons I have no problem pulling 2 packs
Straight to the point with insightful intel. TY yoda
Might aswell be a blood dk nerf, since the tanks who’s niche is mitigating physical damage are now better at handling the one thing dk was semi decent at (magic tankbusters…)
Not that anyone plays blood anymore
I do T.T
@@MrSowey wdym i had a BDK in my dungeon yesterday, he only died 436,535,643 times 🤣🤣🤣
@@imuSama3weird, we had a blood dk tanking an 8 pack in a +15 while we were waiting behind the corner.
BrM main who is undergeared and just starting to push into 11’s. These tank busters are now literally tickles, don’t even need a CD for them. The upper mid level key push is going to be insanely easier for me. White damage on the other hand.
So it's a huge Spell Reflect nerf, lol
They gotta try to keep those 1% pushers slamming their heads into walls for a few more weeks instead of taking a break because god forbid that'd hurt player engagement metrics and twitch viewer counts for WoW. Why is the thought of letting people being "done" so bad and letting people go and enjoy other games for a bit?
Bro keeps saying BDH. Do we have a new spec?
Season is over, see u in s2!!!
This will surely revive the season, and make players want to do M+ again :)
/s
Blizzard knows their shit man XD
@@cemremamik7207 They've been peddling so much shit that they should know by now, yes.
/sarcasm off
Bot
Time gating a ring for no reason 😂 basically paying 20 dollars for an upgrade
why? I don't understand this at all. Sure this will make things a bit easier but It changes nothing about what sucks with M+ right now. And we soon have a new season anyway...
What's your point? Devs shouldn't try to fix any issues because they don't fix all the issues at the same time? Tank nerfs in this season compared to DF has lots to do with what sucks in m+ right now because nobody is playing goddamn tanks and healers and 90% of players are just waiting for insane amount of time to get keys started. And if the season is over for you, it's not for me, I didn't start to push at the start of the season and I still have to get my 3k, but among the friends I play with, there isn't a tank that can handle a +13 right now. This might help a lot.
Dungeon nerfs but WTB tank buffs!
As a Brew main, it's crazy that the spec has never been good in M+ at any point of time.
We had 1 season where we were #1 back in BFA and another season where were like barely #2 sometime in SL...and thats literally it.
There was also season 4 of SL with keg of the heavens tier set. That was pure heaven as a Brew.
@@DS-ph7zy yes but blood dk was so insanely broken that they were about 3 key levels above us, certain keys even more. In upper Kara we were capped at +25 because we couldn’t survive 2nd boss.
That's complete nonsense I literally did a 28 upper with a brew in s4 shadowlands.
@@eps-nx8zg sorry should have clarified, tyrannical, and there was only one in the world that did 28. there were about 3 or 4 others that did a 27, rest were stuck at 25/26
If keys are gated by damage checks, why are people still playing aug evokers?
they buff the dps also make tank more tanky lower cds. overall they help team doing more dps
top augs do barely less than a regular DPS and provide more survivability and utility for the group, simply outweighs the trade
@@sdfds1973 basically so they can buff the main character
Shadowflame slash (GB mob tankbuster) should be nerfed more. I think it's weird that this mob have strongest attack entire dungeon/raids in s1 tww compare to any boss/mob lol :)
Classic Blizzard trying to fix the game months too late.
Nice
Nice, honestly keep it coming and learn from mistakes on S2, make tanks great again (not op)
only took them 8 months while i play poe2 and they do those fixes on 3 days lets gooooooooo
This changes nothing
I feel like this season was already one of the easiest for tanks. If I think of season 1 Dragonflight for example...my DK was literally one-shot by the storm dragon at the top of the ring. You had to use a def CD for every tank buster, but DK having so little and the mob casting so frequently meant just certain death and an ended run.
The bird boss at Academy, storm Ragnaros at Ohn'ahran Plains, Hyrja at HoV, just to name a few, all hit harder than anything I've seen in War Within.
This dude strait trolling
@@ravesoldier20 I mean, I even gave examples. Tell me a single tank buster in WW besides first boss Dawnbreaker maybe.
@@i.c.wiener2750 there's like six in this video alone bud
Nice trolling
Game is dead, yall doing the same shit over and over again for months with no new content yeah ggs. Season 2 gonna be even worse.
The most populated MMO in gaming. Project more.
@@Despond are you sure about that?
thanks for content ma man,i would appriciate if you play vdh a bit and make a video about talents and builds that are viable in 12+ keys in live game,last video that you have on vdh is from ptr and an update can be great
Hes meta slave only plays most OP tank
@@kerkertrandov459 he kinda has to be but a review of other tanks this much time into the season is pretty good
@@arsinsohrabi759 no he doesnt, squishvegan showed u can time 17s and 18s with guardian druid just fine, obviously prot warrior is also very good and brewmaster too has high timings. Only bdh and blood dk are a bit bad. Fotm rerollers are sheep imo. Like if ure offmeta dps not able to get into keys, then rerolling is understandable. But as a tank??? Ure already so desirable as a tank, theres no need to reroll and be a meta slave. Just so stupid.
@@kerkertrandov459 i dont agree,if you want to give your team maximum value you play the meta tank cause they are playing the meta healer and dps but the only difference in lower brackets like 12-14 atm is that if you play non-meta you get less invites and what you are saying is correct in that bracket.
So annoying all these people crying about historically bad m+ tanks still being bad. Just learn a new tank. No, just cry for multiple seasons and expansions and achieve nothing
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