Bowsaw, turning saw, or coping saw? Either way, let's make one!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 3 ต.ค. 2024
- Making a small framesaw that goes by many names, for cutting curves. I'm no professional and I don't have anything to teach, this is just me, sharing my thoughts and my work. Join me as I'm learning fine woodworking!
Amazing… thank you so much for sharing this work - not only do I get to watch you build beautiful things (love your videos) I think this one is the solution to a difficult cut I’ve been puzzling over for years now… you’ve given me a lot to think about 😊🙏
I hope it will solve your problem! Thanks!
OUTSTANDING!!
9:16 This is an EXCELLENT tip! Also, the hooked handle makes more sense to me if the saw is set to cut on the pull stroke. Beautiful piece either way.
Thanks! I see what you're saying, it's a good point :)
As always, Great work and informative. Right I'm off to the workshop !!. well maybe one more video and a cup of tea first..🫖🍵
One of my to do projects. Loved the shaping you incorporated. Nicely made
Great Job!
Great job, your saw has that little extra and that shows!
Thank you!
Great job and looks aesthetically pleasing
Many thanks!
Very well done. Thanks for sharing it.
Thank you!
Beautiful work!
I've had that kit sitting on a shelf for three years now. Thanks for the impetus to get around to finally making it! Beautiful work.
Nice, good luck with the build, and thanks!
@@RobertBrazile the same here. It’s next on my to do list.
Your rounded & octagonal knob design is so beautiful, it marries geometry so elegantly.
I always use a push stroke when using coping saws, I have never used a bow saw yet
I love how elegantly you always manage to combine form and function.
Thank you so much!
Thanks
A very beautiful tool. Love your videos, thanks for posting them.
Thank you very much, I’m glad you’re enjoying them!
Not a criticism: are you worried about the amount of grain runout on both the arms?
I love your channel so much, man. One of the best small woodworking channels out there.
Thank you so much! Very valid question. I think it should be fine for a saw this small, it doesn’t take a lot of tension to keep this thin blade taut. For a larger saw, it’s definitely something to consider. Also worth noting, I used flatsawn wood for the arms, so the growth rings are in line with the tension; not sure how much that matters here, but I did it because it is traditionally done on axe handles and such, the idea being that it is less likely to split if the force goes in line with the growth rings. So the cathedral pattern on flatsawn boards makes the runout look much worse than it is!
The variety and progression in your work is genuinely admirable. It's not often you see makers on here producing both shop and house furniture with hand-carving and inlaying in styles ranging from Modern to Shaker to Queen Anne. Your videos are always enjoyable because of it.
I recognise that handle design from Skelton's Gent saw. After handling it, could you imagine choosing to use that style of dovetail/small parts saw over the usual pistol grip? Keep up the great work!
Thanks Gillis well thought out and executed some how it's smaller than i thought it was going to be but very useful
Cheers friend, yeah the size is quite convenient :)
That’s a good looking saw 👍🏻
Thank you!
Good job Gill 👏
Thanks!
Come sempre ottimo lavoro, finiture eccellenti e accordi al attrezzo. Saluti dall'Italia!
Many thanks!
Your shop really looked cold at the opening of the video. Nice saw, I made one years ago, but haven’t used it since I made it (I have a bandsaw).
It was pretty cold, true! Thanks, and that is understandable!
Great video Gillis. I prefer to change blade direction on the pull stroke. I guess it just feels more natural to me.
Thanks! That’s fair!
Excellent job, Sir.👍👍
I made a frame saw some years ago for cutting green wood. Getting the mortise and tenons just right to allow for blade tensioning was my tricky part.
It's so satisfying to use selfmade great tools. And such a bowsaw is a beauty: sinuous curves, the beam's rib, the slightly rounded front knob… just great! And its size is the right mid-range. Thank you for sharing your lovely and inspiring videos.
Thank you so much, Paolo!
Beautiful
Many thanks!
Very nice.
Thank you!
Wow. When you demo’d the cut those are amazingly tight curves. 👍
It does what it’s supposed to do! Thanks :)
Great saw 👍
Thank you!
Stunning turning saw, dude! Really amazing work!!! 😃
I need to find a kit like that to buy! But my options are limited, so... 😬
(I'm from Brazil and or I find it locally or from China. Buying from other places is difficult, because of the shipping costs. 😕)
Anyway, stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊
Thank you very much! Yeah, this type of saw really requires a kit unfortunately, or blades at least. A bigger turning saw can be made from a length of bandsaw blade though, maybe more accessible?
@@GillisBjork Yeah, that's a possibility indeed. I'm going to search about it, thanks! 😊
Handsome saw. Beautifully crafted. Thank you
Many thanks!
What a great video! Thanks for sharing. I really enjoy your channel, always look forward to you uploading what you're working on.
Cheers, that makes me very happy!
Agreed, I always come check this chanel for a new video. Some of the best hand tool craftsmanship on the internet IMO.
Props for working in the cold shop! :D
I really like your design, especially the handle! Unique and beautiful! I think I will make something like that for a file. Got some nice hornbeam laying around in the shop. I made a similar saw last year from scraps. Used an old tool handle and a door knob for the handles. Ugly but practical :D I only bought the blades and used a 6 mm brass rod for the tangs. Secured it to the handles with small nails through the sides, much like your large turning saw if I watched it correctly. I wanted a more traditional method than epoxy :D The grooves in the toggle are also very clever. I did it in a more complicated manner. There's a nut with a mortise in which the toggle can slide. That also allows for half turns. Is that natural cordage you are using? I already ripped my cord a few times with too much tension.
It's an awesome tool and extremely fast to make. I think it only took me about an hour for the functional parts. Only the shaping and refining of the arms took quite a while.
Kind regards and looking forward to your next videos!
Thanks for the compliments and for sharing that! I thought about the sliding toggle in a nut actually, it does seem practical, but conserving weight was a priority this time as I wanted something quite nimble. I don’t know what kind of cord it is unfortunately, something I’ve had laying around for a long time!
Great structure and shaped, but I'm always afraid of this tight tensioning method. I'm scared it might accidentally trigger and release.😅
Thanks! Ah, yes that could be painful, but it seems quite safe, been used for hundreds of years after all😄 I thought about a long threaded rod with wingnuts, but went with string for the lighter weight. Either way works though!
Beautiful. Love watching you sculpt wood and handle tools . Thank you for the reference for the saw kit source too.. I have a new place to shop now..
I did a quick search and could not find that kit. Do you happen to have a link or description that will take me there? Thank you.
Many thanks!
Absolutely gorgeous! I love the shapes on all the pieces. Very pleasing.
Many many thanks!
Ash lines look amazing with the curves! I like the pull stroke only for coping saw, because it's so thin, and flexible, everything else push
Thanks a bunch! That’s fair, I use pull stroke on my smallest coping saw too.
Good job Gillis!
Have you planned on putting some finish on it?
Thank you! Will probably wax it when the weather warms up a bit, the cold makes it unnecessarily difficult to apply
No doubt about it, you are brilliant. Thank you
Thanks a lot, that’s too kind!
I use mine mostly on the pull stroke.
I made one like 20 years ago, with some butcher saw blade. I used ash for the frame and turned dogwood handles. The hardware was just brass bar stock with slots cut with a hacksaw.
I like your octagonal layout, and will practice it a bit so I'll remember!
Nice, thanks for sharing that and I’m glad the octagons gave you ideas!
Great video like always! You have really encouraged me to make my own bowsaw. Greatings from Poland!
Happy to hear that! Thanks!
Very nice! Now go ahead and sign it!!!
Thanks! Ah yeah, guess I should, I always forget that😅
A very nice saw, well done! Do you plan on putting a finish on the wood?
Thank you! Will probably wax it when the weather warms up a bit and allows it!
Looks fantastic Gillis, thanks for the video! I’d like to make one too now.
Thank you, glad I could inspire you to make one!
This is a really great project, thank you! Would you leave the saw under tension when its not in use or would you unwind it a bit?
Thanks! I always unwind it one or two rotations after use, so the frame doesn't get deformed from constant tension.
Oh, nice turning saw. I have the blades for building one in a box somewhere. And I did already make a frame saw with a 3mm tooth pitch, supposedly a crosscut but the teeth did not seem to have any fleem to them from the factory. It really cuts nice though and makes me wonder if there is any space for backed saws in my shop...
Also, did you do the 13:37 duration on purpose?
Thank you! Cool, yeah you could probably have a fully functional shop with nothing but frame saws! Haha it was not on purpose, I only noticed the perfect video length after it had rendered actually😄
Push saw
You are a badass carpenter!
How many hours did it take you out of interest?
Haha thank you! About 10 hours.
Excellent result, I keep meaning to make myself one. What was the name of the company that provided the blade and pins?
Thank you! They go by Gramercy Tools, or Tools for working wood, haven’t really understood if it’s the same company but googling either name should bring them up.
@@GillisBjork thanks, I had never heard of them before. I'm in the UK, so will see what their shipping costs are like!
Great video! I want to make one myself, how durable do you think the blades are?
Thanks! I have yet to snap a blade, seems very durable :)
Tjusig såg! Jag har precis påbörjat den här hobbyn, och jag märker att jag saknar en hel del verktyg och consumables. Vart fann du dina skölpar och epoxyn? Och inte minst, vart finner du ditt virke? Allt gott!
Tack! Aha, spännande! Skölparna är loppisfynd, tycker ofta de bästa verktygen hittas på loppisar och tradera. Epoxy som den jag använde här finns på Clas Olsson! Virke är nog det svåraste, många brädgårdar säljer bara till företag, och man vill ju hitta nåt ganska lokalt, beställa på nätet är ingen höjdare för man vet inte exakt vad man får. Jag har hittills handlat på plats hos Massivträdesign och Abi-trä, och beställt från Calexico wood.
Tack för svaret. Några googlingar har lett mig till Calexico. Är du nöjd med de köpen du gjort på nätet, från de nämnda företagen?
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How deep did you make the throat? 1/2 the length of the blade? I have had a saw like this on my to make list (except with allthread, jam nuts, and a washer instead of the nice pin kit) since I need a hand tool version of a bandsaw at some point. And how viable do you think this would be for a beginner?
Yeah it's about half the blade length, didn't measure anything specific though, just did what looked proportional to me. If you have a certain project in mind you could size the throat to what you know you'll need. I think it would be very viable!
@@GillisBjork Thanks! I don't know if I would ever have a project where I need more than 150mm of throat, and I imagine that the larger the throat the more unwieldy the saw becomes. A couple other questions: Is there other bow saw blade manufacturers that make a 12in blade but make the blade thicker and coarser to make it better at cutting long straight cuts? I like the idea of having dedicated blades for different jobs as needed. And have you ever seen or considered a saw where the tensioning mechanism (string, threaded rod, etc) is not equidistant from the beam to get a better leverage on the blade so the overall frame can be shorter?
where to order the correct length blade ?
I bought it from Fine-tools in Germany, it is made by Gramercy/Tools for working wood
Thank you and great video, I can't wait to get mine done.