I recently got a 1994 tomos sprint, I'm wanting to do the exact opposite to mine. I want kick start soo bad. Thank you for the video, now I know what I need to do.
Nice video. This reminds me of the first time I saw mopeds in 1977 in Brooklyn NY. We were able to rent them for $10. / hour but after many accidents and complaints the city outlawed moped rentals. Still many people in the 70s rode mopeds. Last night while in Brooklyn on the 58 street pier I saw a group of moped riders. One had a vintage 1977 Puch. I stopped by where they were on the 58 street pier and spoke to them they say they are the Sunset Riders. They all had cool mopeds. They were pretty cool. It brought back memories of when I was a kid. I hope more people ride the vintage mopeds. I was told mopeds are making a comeback. No not the electric ones the real ones 2 cycle gas mopeds! Let’s hope they are right about that.
Didn't expect to get such an in-depth breakdown of the Tomos trans. This is v useful. Been having a clutch slipping/sticking problem so I've gotta dive in and see what's up.
In the homeland of Tomos, there is a saying, that all the parts for this simple motorcycle, you get in the newspaper shop (and the best Tomos mechanic in the USA?)
Dang was that the last green one in existence? Was looking at it, but my state requires pedals and it was kick start, didn’t know how easy it was to convert. I need to change a bent pedal shaft on one of my tomos, thanks for the info! Have a beautiful day! 👊🏼👍🏼
Yeah sadly it was the last Blue one (the pastel colors are so similar) The Green ones are gone too. Hunting for more bikes tho. Good luck with the pedal shaft swap
Sadly alot of states are going that way but on the flip side of that I live right next to one of them states so alot of money to be made.....I still can't believe I sold my silver bullet :( but sometimes a price can't be refused lol
@@mattschricker735 I’ve been hoarding as many Puchs and Tomos I can find for $200-300, but those are far and few between. I have 9 Puchs and 6 Tomos. They are like my children and don’t want to let go of them haha! I do need to let a few go to fund the habit and maybe sacrifice 1 or 2 just for extra parts. Anyways have a great night and keep on mopeding?! 👋🏼
Yoooo nice. I have a first series tomos Quadro from 93 and I have a wrong cover on the left side witz no mounting parts for that little holder for the spring so Instead of buying an old cover I will do that conversion. Thanks mate
Mate love your blogs. Wish we had a shop and crew like yours here in Norway. Me I ride a 69 tempo corvette 300 with a comet bore kit. Dream about taking through New York one day
Thanks Pete, great video! Pedal start Tomos bikes don't exist here in England, and neither do top tanks so Im slowly importing all the parts I need from the US to make a Targa LX. There's not much info on the kick start to pedal conversion so this is great, thank you!
@@MrMoggy21 Not an A35 but ive converted an A3. In fact I'm gonna drop a video soon on how I did it, and it's pretty much the same witg an A3 or A35. if you can get the parts it's easy 👍
Pete do you maybe know the size of that seal you are using in that side cover. Maybe also know the length of that longer shaft your are using. In the Netherlands they also selling that longer shaft. But i have to check if its the right one.
The seal is: 16x24x7 Their are numerous shaft options… 240mm is for A35 no oil pump. 260mm is for A35 with oil pump. 270mm might be for A55 with oil pump (not 100% sure). And they have a 340mm for the Streetmate. I know for sure there are at least 2 more sizes. Not sure where they fit in the mix.
Hoping I can save someone a lot of time and money. I'm about $500 deep in this conversion and need more parts now. I have a 1999 targa kick start that I was trying to convert to pedal start. After getting all the parts I needed (or so I thought) I found clutch material was shot and a few other parts needed replacing. I also had the unfortunate luck of having a clutch cover that required machining so had that done at a local shop. Got the new clutch parts and went to install everything and found the gear behind the "dog leg" gear does not exist on mine. You can see in the video at 3:56 the gear in the transmission stays in place on the tomos in the video. This is the "main drive gear" Mine doesn't have that, it's just a smooth face on the main drive gear. So I'm at a point now that I wish I never saw this video and saved myself $500+. I've now got a moped I can't drive as I've got a hole machined in the cover so I can't convert back to a kickstart and I can't finish the pedal conversion without further disassembly and buying even more parts. I have to spend another $200 to get this back on the road as the main drive gear I need is $150 plus shipping to canada. Love your guys videos but wish I knew this info going into it.
I appreciate what you’re saying. Sounds like the conversation revealed maintenance issues that needed to be done. Good thing you caught it when you did, missing clutch material will lead to the clutch shoes over expanding and become unhinged, as well metal on metal rubbing with the clutch bell. The machining of the clutch cover probably cost a bunch, sorry to hear that. But if you need to stick with kickstart, all you need is an aluminum plug to block off the machined part. I have a couple laying around if you need one.
I remember back when tomos was distributed by STR in Spartanburg SC same lady always answered the phone and took your part orders. It looked like Tomos was going to make a comeback but the Indian made mopeds and cheap Chinese scooters killed them. Tomos had a great history including making licenced Norton motorcycles I had a Tomos made 850 back in the 90's great bike. And I still have my bullet TT
Hi @Moped Problems I found your channel not long ago, keep up the good work, I really enjoy the videos 👍 After watching your vids, I decided to buy a tomos a35 quadro, from the early 90's with kickstart. I can't wait to start restoring it back to it's old glory but I got a major issue, I don't know where the vin number is located, and there's so many layers of paint, so I don't know where to start looking for it. So I really hoped that you had the easy answer to that? 🤷
I hit a pothole the other day in my wheels are now wobbly or or just untrue but could you help me in this problem? I love second stroke mopeds! Where exactly are you located
Pete I know you hate french bikes but would you have tips on setting up a av10 in a mbk I'm presently learning french trying to figure out these references😂
I would like to know if you have the parts to "put back" the kick starter and pegs on a Puch maxi-Luxe?(and how much for the parts,I can do the work myself.)also,it is a single speed,not a 2speed.
Do u have any recommendations about clutch material for 70cc kits I tried cork it pretty much shreds it. I'm using Kevlar now but I get a hard shift into second gear.
I’m wanting to buy a 1977 Italian Moroni mini cricket- he originally wanted $1400 now hes down to $800 He claims there’s nothing wrong with it all original parts starts right up but I ask and he say carb needs work - what do you think? Thanks for any advice
How about converting a single-speed, pollution-belching 2-stroke "moped" to a more efficient, cleanly 4-stroke with 4-speed [semi-automatic] (no clutch operation needed) transmission? You know... like a Honda Cub or "mini-moke"/"pit bike"--or their clones-have. And they'll get less complaints from neighbors over noise, too.😕
@@majontomos yes, that’s the truth. And It can fail other ways as well… the pump itself can go bad or the physical connection to the pump (worm gear, slotted nut, or whatever) can snap. Seen all of the above happen many times.
I recently got a 1994 tomos sprint, I'm wanting to do the exact opposite to mine. I want kick start soo bad. Thank you for the video, now I know what I need to do.
Hi Peter Well done conversion, clutch bell looks good to. Pretty easy task. Thanks
Thanks Phil, your bike turned out pretty good. 2nd round of upgrades soon to come!
Oh my goodness is that an actual moped? Wowie!
Thought i would change it up and do something moped for once 😇
Nice video. This reminds me of the first time I saw mopeds in 1977 in Brooklyn NY. We were able to rent them for $10. / hour but after many accidents and complaints the city outlawed moped rentals. Still many people in the 70s rode mopeds. Last night while in Brooklyn on the 58 street pier I saw a group of moped riders. One had a vintage 1977 Puch. I stopped by where they were on the 58 street pier and spoke to them they say they are the Sunset Riders. They all had cool mopeds. They were pretty cool. It brought back memories of when I was a kid. I hope more people ride the vintage mopeds. I was told mopeds are making a comeback.
No not the electric ones the real ones 2 cycle gas mopeds! Let’s hope they are right about that.
Best video in a while. Beautiful bike.
Hello from Koper, Slovenia the hometown of TOMOS.
🙌 hello
Didn't expect to get such an in-depth breakdown of the Tomos trans. This is v useful. Been having a clutch slipping/sticking problem so I've gotta dive in and see what's up.
Thanks. Best of luck!
Have u ever replaced your first clutch? If not I'd just replace it and see what happens
In the homeland of Tomos, there is a saying, that all the parts for this simple motorcycle, you get in the newspaper shop (and the best Tomos mechanic in the USA?)
I am a little lost in the translation, but sounds like a complement! Thank you 🙏
Which country is homeland of Tomos?
@@tehnoelektronikloznica7119 If your name is really "......Loznica", then you live in it.
@@tehnoelektronikloznica7119 Come on...even Melania Trump knows the answer
Dang was that the last green one in existence? Was looking at it, but my state requires pedals and it was kick start, didn’t know how easy it was to convert. I need to change a bent pedal shaft on one of my tomos, thanks for the info! Have a beautiful day! 👊🏼👍🏼
Yeah sadly it was the last Blue one (the pastel colors are so similar) The Green ones are gone too. Hunting for more bikes tho. Good luck with the pedal shaft swap
@@MopedProblems thanks, love the channel! #Mopeds4life
Sadly alot of states are going that way but on the flip side of that I live right next to one of them states so alot of money to be made.....I still can't believe I sold my silver bullet :( but sometimes a price can't be refused lol
@@mattschricker735 I’ve been hoarding as many Puchs and Tomos I can find for $200-300, but those are far and few between. I have 9 Puchs and 6 Tomos. They are like my children and don’t want to let go of them haha! I do need to let a few go to fund the habit and maybe sacrifice 1 or 2 just for extra parts. Anyways have a great night and keep on mopeding?! 👋🏼
Yoooo nice. I have a first series tomos Quadro from 93 and I have a wrong cover on the left side witz no mounting parts for that little holder for the spring so Instead of buying an old cover I will do that conversion. Thanks mate
You have the best videos hands down
High praise my man. Thank you!
Mate love your blogs. Wish we had a shop and crew like yours here in Norway. Me I ride a 69 tempo corvette 300 with a comet bore kit.
Dream about taking through New York one day
Very informative and fun to watch as always..😁👍
Thank you Pacer
I am here to never forget about mopeds
Thanks Pete, great video! Pedal start Tomos bikes don't exist here in England, and neither do top tanks so Im slowly importing all the parts I need from the US to make a Targa LX. There's not much info on the kick start to pedal conversion so this is great, thank you!
Best of luck Phil. Thanks for watching!
import them from the Netherlands. they have plenty shops online. you will get your parts quicker and maybe cheaper
Hi Phil did you manage to get the pets to convert one? I’m looking at buying a Tomos but want to convert it to pedals straight away
@@MrMoggy21 Not an A35 but ive converted an A3. In fact I'm gonna drop a video soon on how I did it, and it's pretty much the same witg an A3 or A35. if you can get the parts it's easy 👍
Pete do you maybe know the size of that seal you are using in that side cover. Maybe also know the length of that longer shaft your are using. In the Netherlands they also selling that longer shaft. But i have to check if its the right one.
The seal is: 16x24x7 Their are numerous shaft options… 240mm is for A35 no oil pump. 260mm is for A35 with oil pump. 270mm might be for A55 with oil pump (not 100% sure). And they have a 340mm for the Streetmate. I know for sure there are at least 2 more sizes. Not sure where they fit in the mix.
Hoping I can save someone a lot of time and money. I'm about $500 deep in this conversion and need more parts now. I have a 1999 targa kick start that I was trying to convert to pedal start. After getting all the parts I needed (or so I thought) I found clutch material was shot and a few other parts needed replacing. I also had the unfortunate luck of having a clutch cover that required machining so had that done at a local shop. Got the new clutch parts and went to install everything and found the gear behind the "dog leg" gear does not exist on mine. You can see in the video at 3:56 the gear in the transmission stays in place on the tomos in the video. This is the "main drive gear" Mine doesn't have that, it's just a smooth face on the main drive gear. So I'm at a point now that I wish I never saw this video and saved myself $500+. I've now got a moped I can't drive as I've got a hole machined in the cover so I can't convert back to a kickstart and I can't finish the pedal conversion without further disassembly and buying even more parts. I have to spend another $200 to get this back on the road as the main drive gear I need is $150 plus shipping to canada.
Love your guys videos but wish I knew this info going into it.
I appreciate what you’re saying. Sounds like the conversation revealed maintenance issues that needed to be done. Good thing you caught it when you did, missing clutch material will lead to the clutch shoes over expanding and become unhinged, as well metal on metal rubbing with the clutch bell.
The machining of the clutch cover probably cost a bunch, sorry to hear that. But if you need to stick with kickstart, all you need is an aluminum plug to block off the machined part. I have a couple laying around if you need one.
I remember back when tomos was distributed by STR in Spartanburg SC same lady always answered the phone and took your part orders. It looked like Tomos was going to make a comeback but the Indian made mopeds and cheap Chinese scooters killed them. Tomos had a great history including making licenced Norton motorcycles I had a Tomos made 850 back in the 90's great bike. And I still have my bullet TT
Hi @Moped Problems I found your channel not long ago, keep up the good work, I really enjoy the videos 👍
After watching your vids, I decided to buy a tomos a35 quadro, from the early 90's with kickstart. I can't wait to start restoring it back to it's old glory but I got a major issue, I don't know where the vin number is located, and there's so many layers of paint, so I don't know where to start looking for it. So I really hoped that you had the easy answer to that? 🤷
So is the clutch bell the reason they chirp between 1st & 2nd gears?
I hit a pothole the other day in my wheels are now wobbly or or just untrue but could you help me in this problem? I love second stroke mopeds! Where exactly are you located
Where do you buy them. Please answer. Thank you
Currently working on a beautiful refurbished one. Will be listed on our site later today: www.2ndstrokemopeds.com
@@MopedProblems thank you for responding. And your site.
Its up on the site now:
www.2ndstrokemopeds.com/parts-store/2001-tomos-targa-refurbished
Would you be able to ship a single pedal kickstart shaft to europe to me? Love you bro
Sure thing. Send us an email. Mopedproblems@gmail.com
@@MopedProblems i sent an email!✅
@@MopedProblems Did you recieve the email?
When you do this conversion can you still use the pedals as normal and to assist going up hills? Thanks 👍🏼
Yes, this conversion allows the pedals to be functional.
Pete I know you hate french bikes but would you have tips on setting up a av10 in a mbk I'm presently learning french trying to figure out these references😂
Why do that when you can own a Peugeot 103? Already case inducted for you
Do you have the parts for sale to convert my pedal start to kick start? A55
I would like to know if you have the parts to "put back" the kick starter and pegs on a Puch maxi-Luxe?(and how much for the parts,I can do the work myself.)also,it is a single speed,not a 2speed.
Da li se jos proizvode tomosovi modeli
Nice !
Do u have any recommendations about clutch material for 70cc kits I tried cork it pretty much shreds it. I'm using Kevlar now but I get a hard shift into second gear.
Hey Pete, is there need to do some sort of treatment to the clutchbell after removing material? Also DM'd
I’m wanting to buy a 1977 Italian Moroni mini cricket- he originally wanted $1400 now hes down to $800 He claims there’s nothing wrong with it all original parts starts right up but I ask and he say carb needs work - what do you think? Thanks for any advice
It does look very clean
We have a video called “bought a moped sight unseen”. This explains everything
If a moped is converted to kick start is it still a moped or is it a scooter because it doesn't have pedals just wondering
What's the torque spec for the bolts on the flywheel cover?
The industry standard is “moped tight”
is Tomos 2 stroke? i bought 2 vintage mopeds in India, and its in my channel. those are 2 strokes.
They are two stroke. 49cc
How about converting a single-speed, pollution-belching 2-stroke "moped" to a more efficient, cleanly 4-stroke with 4-speed [semi-automatic] (no clutch operation needed) transmission? You know... like a Honda Cub or "mini-moke"/"pit bike"--or their clones-have. And they'll get less complaints from neighbors over noise, too.😕
What are your toughts on oil injection?
Oil injection is not worth the convenience. A injection failure is catastrophic. Pre-mixing is bulletproof.
@@MopedProblems so if you run out of oil or the line gets clogged your piston just seizes?
@@majontomos yes, that’s the truth. And It can fail other ways as well… the pump itself can go bad or the physical connection to the pump (worm gear, slotted nut, or whatever) can snap. Seen all of the above happen many times.
Where did you get a brand new Tomos 3 years ago?? I want one REALLY bad. I would definitely delete that oil injection. It's garbage.
I really need to turn my clutch bell.
I've got a helluva vibration on my A35.
It makes my buttox go numb. 🤣
That’s the clutch bell alright. So much vibration it tingles. Send me an email: mopedproblems@gmail.com
of course you middle gear need those gears on inside
All states require functional pedals hence the name moped mo=motor ped=pedal
the difference between nopeds and mopeds. is not the color ¨
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Tomos are for wal mart people
😂😂😂 this is my first time to here someone wants pedals instead kickstart. Usualy is opposite. Who needs pedals any more?