Great review! Throwing them on a scale to do a weight comparison would be helpful, the main draw to M12 tools for me is the light weight for working overhead all day.
@zackbongle9967 in my recent video of the DCE410 you'd see the weight came out to 6 lbs 8.6 oz. As for the m12 it was about 4 lbs 6 Oz. Both measured without batteries or heads as weight with both can of course vary by configuration
great review! Next can you do a review of the smaller DEWALT 1" DCE400 against the 1" M12? And a separate review of the Milwaukee M18 1-1/2" Tool vs this DEWALT 1-1/2" tool?
unfortunately I had to return them both - both dewalts I had had the heads coming out slightly during the hardest part of the expansion, as for the m12, the 1" expander head had 2 loose jaws. If you want my honest opinion for the models you recommended I'd say dce400 vs m12 fuel m12 wins, M18 vs dce410 for 1-1/2" m18 wins for speed but price 100% for dewalt! The M18 expander is $1000+ kit only and the the fuel m18 expander is 1800 without tax or delivery!
The normal DEWALT expander is faster than the Milwaukee fuel. The Milwaukee is also junk, the top of the expander is loose on every one I’ve seen, between the cheap junky plastic and the metal head there is okay. The Milwaukee handle is uncomfortable as hell too. Compare that dewalt to the 1-1/2” Milwaukee. It’s slower because it’s designed to expand 1-1/2” pex and that Milwaukee is designed for 1”
I agree with you on the dewalt it definitely gets the job done (haven't used the smaller dce400) but as far as the m12 fuel I didn't notice any loose parts. as for the dce410 I noticed on both (I made 2 videos each with a different tool) both of them had the metal head flex out to a noticeable gap the further up the pipe size you go. as a lefty the stupid lock button on the left side makes me shift my grip away from the rubber handle toward the plastic upper half. Both have pros and cons. Thanks for sharing!
1" PEX is the max capacity for the m12 so it makes sense, however it definitely has the speed on the dewalt as well as the size/weight. can't go wrong with either tho :)
Great review! Throwing them on a scale to do a weight comparison would be helpful, the main draw to M12 tools for me is the light weight for working overhead all day.
@zackbongle9967 in my recent video of the DCE410 you'd see the weight came out to 6 lbs 8.6 oz. As for the m12 it was about 4 lbs 6 Oz. Both measured without batteries or heads as weight with both can of course vary by configuration
Thanks for the review!
Happy to help!
Ty
thank you :)
great review! Next can you do a review of the smaller DEWALT 1" DCE400 against the 1" M12? And a separate review of the Milwaukee M18 1-1/2" Tool vs this DEWALT 1-1/2" tool?
unfortunately I had to return them both - both dewalts I had had the heads coming out slightly during the hardest part of the expansion, as for the m12, the 1" expander head had 2 loose jaws. If you want my honest opinion for the models you recommended I'd say dce400 vs m12 fuel m12 wins, M18 vs dce410 for 1-1/2" m18 wins for speed but price 100% for dewalt! The M18 expander is $1000+ kit only and the the fuel m18 expander is 1800 without tax or delivery!
the head size is a factor. if you have to jam it up in a tight space
100% this thing has a bigger head than me!
The normal DEWALT expander is faster than the Milwaukee fuel. The Milwaukee is also junk, the top of the expander is loose on every one I’ve seen, between the cheap junky plastic and the metal head there is okay. The Milwaukee handle is uncomfortable as hell too. Compare that dewalt to the 1-1/2” Milwaukee. It’s slower because it’s designed to expand 1-1/2” pex and that Milwaukee is designed for 1”
I agree with you on the dewalt it definitely gets the job done (haven't used the smaller dce400) but as far as the m12 fuel I didn't notice any loose parts. as for the dce410 I noticed on both (I made 2 videos each with a different tool) both of them had the metal head flex out to a noticeable gap the further up the pipe size you go. as a lefty the stupid lock button on the left side makes me shift my grip away from the rubber handle toward the plastic upper half. Both have pros and cons. Thanks for sharing!
The milluake seems to bog down. The dewalt sounds more powerful
1" PEX is the max capacity for the m12 so it makes sense, however it definitely has the speed on the dewalt as well as the size/weight. can't go wrong with either tho :)