Beeswax Coating for Metalsmiths

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  • @idlibenglish
    @idlibenglish 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    YOU SHOULD REMAKE THIS VIDEO! I saw it when it first came out, and you were a much younger man. I've made it a couple times and getting ready to mix it up again. ABSOLUTE GOLD! PEACE!

    • @purgatoryironworks
      @purgatoryironworks  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I think I may do just that

    • @idlibenglish
      @idlibenglish 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@purgatoryironworks - It would be great if you do, love your work! Give us a shout out!

    • @idlibenglish
      @idlibenglish 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Mixed it up this morning! So satisfying! Off to work!

  • @cre8tivesolutions
    @cre8tivesolutions 14 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Just finished making a small batch to try out. Here is a tip for all, use a double boiler as mentioned before. It is easier to make this in the container you will be storing it in. I used a baby food jar for this first batch since they are made to heat in boiling water. I devided the jar into 3 parts melted the beeswax for the first third and then turned off the heat and kept jar in hot water, then added 1/3 Terpentine and split the last third adding the Linseed oil. Mixed well and let cool.

  • @garygrady000
    @garygrady000 11 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    This is the same formula I use for treating my leather boots.
    melt the paste and use a hairdryer to heat the leather quite warm then quickly brush on the liquid. Continue heating until the liquid soaks into the leather.
    This treatment WORKS and lasts for quite a long time.

  • @drtbik7958
    @drtbik7958 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I bought my beeswax at Hobby Lobby, before going, log onto their site to get a discount coupon. I buy hammer heads, ax heads and other tools at a swap meet near my house. I "sand blast" them with aluminum oxide, deburr, then coat with your recipe, before installing the handles, works great!

  • @WiredTurkey316
    @WiredTurkey316 16 ปีที่แล้ว

    I've been using this recipe for a couple years on wood, and it works great but I never thought about using it on leather. I'm going to go give it a try, thanks for the video.

  • @01undertaker10
    @01undertaker10 16 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    hey trent, would have gotten around to this alot sooner, but the weather here in Ky. left us without power. anyway, i have heard my grandparents talk about a mixture of this sort on horse saddles whips and things when they were young. it must work well. i'll have to try it out. sure wish you could have met my grandparents, you'd have liked them.

  • @shilohsharps
    @shilohsharps 14 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I made something similar to this to renew oilskin. I didn't add any sort of solvent. I used raw linseed oil rather than boiled. I didn't measure things, but just kept adding the raw linseed oil until I got the consistency I liked. Not only was it great for oilskin, but it makes a great furniture polish.

  • @SkogKniv
    @SkogKniv 15 ปีที่แล้ว

    I made my first batch of this a few days ago. I started with a few sheaths and my SFA axe head. So far the stuff works great! Thanks for the recipe! 5/5

  • @cre8tivesolutions
    @cre8tivesolutions 14 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Just finished making a small batch to try out. Here is a tip for all, use a double boiler as mentioned before. It is easier to make this in the container you will be storing it in. I used a baby food jar for this first batch since they are made to heat in boiling water. I devided the jar into 3 parts melted the beeswax for the first third and then turned off the heat and kept jar in hot water, then added 1/3 Terpentine and split the last third adding the Linseed oil. Tried on hatchet and knife.

  • @unitytira4954
    @unitytira4954 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you so much for sharing your experience in this video, I used this recipe to maintain my GB hand and wildlife hatchets including the hickory handle and the leather sheaths. It preserves it well.

  • @osculatingasses4715
    @osculatingasses4715 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    thank you for sharing, and teaching. love the fact that you are straight up! looking forward to seeing all your vids. keep telling it true!

  • @boatoflol
    @boatoflol 16 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    For those who didnt understand it:
    1 Part Bees Wax
    1 Part Terpentine
    1/2 Part Linen Seed Oil
    Shave the Bees wax in a pot, then add an equal amount of terpentine and after its melted down, add the linen seed oil. Stir it all up. Pour it in a pot or something and let it dry. It should be a cream.

    • @michaelsanchez8519
      @michaelsanchez8519 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Linseed oil. Not linen seed oil. For people reading this, don't rip up your linens and throw it into the mixture.

    • @0ddSavant
      @0ddSavant 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@michaelsanchez8519 - Whew, thanks mate! I was ripping up sheets like a character on a sitcom during an inevitable childbirth episode.

  • @MaxMinXX
    @MaxMinXX 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for this vid. Just watched your show in History Channel, great show!

  • @PaulFontaniniArtist
    @PaulFontaniniArtist 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love this stuff. I found your recipe on google and use it all the time now. I have found it far better than the linseed or the beeswax on their own.

  • @drason69
    @drason69 10 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    For NON FOOD smithing, I use equal parts of linseed oil, turpentine, beeswax and johnsons paste wax. Works GREAT!

  • @CGwerx
    @CGwerx 11 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    For food safe product use beeswax and mineral oil, it also works great on wood, metal, and leather. I like to make a canvas sock for an iron to melt it into the wood that I am finishing. It makes the process quick and easy.

  • @lanehill6123
    @lanehill6123 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I want to thank you for this. I have been wondering what to do with the bees wax from my hive this year.

  • @67Spectre
    @67Spectre 9 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I saw another TH-camr making the same stuff over an open flame, if a hotplate is out of the question, you can melt the beeswax over the flame until melted, remove it from the flame, then add the other ingredients.

    • @tek4
      @tek4 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      67Spectre yes

  • @happydonut84
    @happydonut84 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    I make the same stuff with out the terps for my rifle, camping and hunting gear/tools. Works very well and no need to carry to many different products.

  • @randallsummers6551
    @randallsummers6551 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I watched Brent Bailey put this on a leather vest then dry it with a hair dryer and it came out great! Seen Torjhorn Ahron? Use it in his wood shop too. Mush be some good stuff.

    • @thesage1096
      @thesage1096 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      he is that swedish blacksmith ? he is awesome no talk just work

  • @thomasarussellsr
    @thomasarussellsr 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    For woodturners: this same mix, but add fine crushed pumice (available on Amazon), and you have a rubbing/polishing compound similar to
    the common (product in a small tin) that a lot of TH-cam turners use. I tried pumice in petroleum-jelly, it just works better with a bee's wax medium like this stuff. And it is A LOT cheaper. Get as fine a pumice [dust/ground stone] as you can find. You can also find the other ingredients on the same site. Bee's wax is also available in pellet form there, then you don't have to shave a block and guess at the amount used.
    Trenton thanks for sharing. Are your 1-1-1/2 ratios by weight or volume?

  • @Automedon2
    @Automedon2 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm assuming it is similar to Feibing"s Leather conditioner. If you apply it to unfinished veg tanned leather and then go over it lightly with a heat gun (or leave it in the sun), then after that coat has been absorbed, give it another coat and buff with a bit of sheepskin, you get a beautiful satin finish that feels incredible.

  • @reesalee01
    @reesalee01 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks so much for the answer. Can't wait to share this recipe with the hubs. He will be so excited. The commercial stuff is way too expensive.

  • @alexleighty9892
    @alexleighty9892 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I realize at this point the video I'm commenting on is 11 years old, but after watching it and reading everyone's comments too, yesterday I mixed up my first batch of this "Paste." Made a couple of rookie mistakes.
    My 1st error I made was to cover the mixture while it was left to cool. That left me with a very thin product and quite a bit of liquid separation floating on top. I assumed it was turpentine so I reheated the mixture, at the same time I added anothet helping of beeswax just to be on the safe side. This time while it cooled I left it uncovered. I also left it uncovered while it sat on my counter overnight. This time it is set up much better, although I'd still call it more of a slurry than a paste.
    Has anyone else had this same result?
    It has me wondering if I should repeat my heating exercise and this time add yet one more helping of beeswax to the mix. Or maybe the slurry is right and over time, if I leave it uncovered, as more of the turpentine evaporates the mixture will get more pasty?

  • @911no
    @911no 16 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Have you ever checked out the old 11Foxfire books? I think I remember seeing or reading something about this in those books.

  • @hillbillymanjackson
    @hillbillymanjackson 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    How would raw linseed oil work instead of the boiled? The
    metal drying agents are toxic . I would at least not use it for a hand salve. Thanks for the vids.

  • @clayjohnson3749
    @clayjohnson3749 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    love the Angel City shirt....Spring and fall goer for 3 years now...cool

  • @lukearts2954
    @lukearts2954 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Would be nice if you could revisit some of these old topics and tell how your experience, use and views have changed over the past 10 years...

  • @purgatoryironworks
    @purgatoryironworks  15 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thats usually what I do. If I really want to soak it in I use a hair dryer to warm the item and melt the wax.

    • @mikemaster1773
      @mikemaster1773 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for the tip! I have heard that turpentine is toxic so to be on the safe side I used mineral oils instead. I made a little batch today for a project I've got going and not having beeswax I went with a candle instead, wax is wax ain't it? I put the wax and linseed oil in the microwave for a minute and it melted easily, then added the mineral oil. Seems to do the job. Thanks again.

  • @jimflynn7551
    @jimflynn7551 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    I put a mix. 1/2 bees wax & 1/2 linseed oil boiled,the jack look ok and should last longer ,I used a hot air gut to liquidated it to get into the fiber also zipped the jacket up to protect the lining.

  • @indianatone218
    @indianatone218 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for sharing ant from Wales UK .

  • @MichaelQuigley-fy5rc
    @MichaelQuigley-fy5rc 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I wonder if you have to add linseed oil. I don't like the dark color on tool handles.

  • @bobbyduhon9720
    @bobbyduhon9720 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I wonder how it would work on the soles of planes. Would it gum up? Looks like snow seal.

  • @bennymarr8977
    @bennymarr8977 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great tip, I'll try this on different types of materials and see what it can do for me. God Bless

  • @redsmerf
    @redsmerf 14 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Forget shaving it with a knife. Try a cheese grater.

  • @GrowLLLTigeRRR
    @GrowLLLTigeRRR 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice video. How do you achieve the dark brown/black finish on your forged pieces. I need to darken a chain.

  • @sandrinevictorialilylouben7372
    @sandrinevictorialilylouben7372 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video, I'll try as soon as possible :)

  • @SKiM0510
    @SKiM0510 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    I saw the exact same recipe with acetone instead of turpentine. Is one better than the other? Thanks for your videos

  • @andreek8559
    @andreek8559 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Question: Can I swap the bees wax for something cheaper? Like Vaseline?
    Beeswax is expensive around these parts, different industries have discovered it for their vegan snake oil.

    • @doacarnage
      @doacarnage 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      toilet ring wax

  • @jamesgmac2258
    @jamesgmac2258 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Do you use linseed oil on your anvils? I’ve heard this is a good method to help preserve it!

  • @shmuelbrody
    @shmuelbrody 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    bees wax can be gotten in candles
    or toilet sealers at a plumbing supply

    • @Rmillerb1
      @Rmillerb1 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      Toilet wax rings are no longer made of beeswax, at least that I am aware of. Most are a mix of vegetable and petroleum waxes. Who knows, might even work better than beeswax! I'll try it both ways and find out.

  • @roglet123
    @roglet123 14 ปีที่แล้ว

    can u use terpentine substitute or white spirit instead of turps?

  • @chaostoy
    @chaostoy 16 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice find man! Thanks for sharing. :)

  • @ziepit
    @ziepit 15 ปีที่แล้ว

    does the cream need to be aplied then wiped of mostly

  • @jonhuston5110
    @jonhuston5110 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Question, could you use 91% rubbing alcohol instead of turpentine?

  • @numbrenine9414
    @numbrenine9414 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    if used on metal would you need the terpintine, i get the oil n wax, what does the terpintine do,

    • @insperatus
      @insperatus 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It thins the wax

  • @tommywright7196
    @tommywright7196 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Some wax rings for toliets are made of bees wax it will tell what it is on box it's a cheay way to get it

  • @kattforge8856
    @kattforge8856 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    would this work to help prevent rust on my boat knives? they are exposed to saltwater.

    • @purgatoryironworks
      @purgatoryironworks  9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      +Jared K I would go for something better than beeswax on that. Stainless steels need to be used for that application.

  • @CornLikker
    @CornLikker 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    I loved this video. I have a question though. Can I substitute paraffin (gulf wax) for the beeswax? I can't find beeswax around where I live and would have to order it online. I do have a butt load of paraffin though. Will it work or do I need to bite the bullet and get some beeswax?

    • @purgatoryironworks
      @purgatoryironworks  11 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Very different properties between the two. Bite that bullet!

  • @purgatoryironworks
    @purgatoryironworks  14 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    you can just rub it on, thats why its a paste

  • @slick15u
    @slick15u 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Is this safe for use on kitchen knives?

    • @tek4
      @tek4 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      I am slick15u no

  • @dianazaalberg1993
    @dianazaalberg1993 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    where is the forum, can not find it on the website

  • @dylan8827
    @dylan8827 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sorry for commenting on such an old video, but I'm wondering if the measurement are by weight or by volume?

    • @tek4
      @tek4 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Dylan Bradish by eye

  • @alecg97
    @alecg97 16 ปีที่แล้ว

    thanks for the help!

  • @PlaceboTree
    @PlaceboTree 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is it alright to apply to a firearm?

  • @kesheth180
    @kesheth180 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can you use Mineral Spirits instead of turpentine?

    • @purgatoryironworks
      @purgatoryironworks  10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The idea is to stay away from petroleum distillates. It will harm leather.

    • @kesheth180
      @kesheth180 10 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ok. Thank you for the heads up.

    • @kesheth180
      @kesheth180 10 ปีที่แล้ว

      purgatoryironworks is it supposed to smell absolutely horrible or did I mess something up?

    • @purgatoryironworks
      @purgatoryironworks  10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It smells like turpentine.......unless somebody pee'ed in it.

    • @kesheth180
      @kesheth180 10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Once it cooled down, the smell got a lot better, but until then it stunk up my whole backyard.

  • @samthompson8735
    @samthompson8735 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Do you still use this or do you use something else?

  • @shmuelbrody
    @shmuelbrody 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    better and easier to use
    melt bees wax and olive oil together
    depending on the proportions
    it will make a more solid substance or
    a creme
    easy good for your skin
    great for wood etc

  • @anthonypriest9994
    @anthonypriest9994 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    what is the thinnest metal to use for a forge

    • @purgatoryironworks
      @purgatoryironworks  9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      +Anthony Priest
      I usually stick with 14 gauge for the pan, 3/8 min for the pot

  • @pingpong316
    @pingpong316 16 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    i will use it on my third hand

  • @nokomisforge
    @nokomisforge 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    it is a good formula but do not use it with items that come in contact with food for those use straight bees wax for that.

  • @kaziklu79
    @kaziklu79 16 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you!

  • @My10Acres
    @My10Acres 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is is 1 part by weight or volume?

    • @purgatoryironworks
      @purgatoryironworks  10 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Heh, pick one :)

    • @AngriestEwok
      @AngriestEwok 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      I know this is three years old but for the sake of others reading... Volume. 'parts' means volume.

  • @ubiquidic9823
    @ubiquidic9823 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is this pretty much the same stuff as boot wax?

    • @purgatoryironworks
      @purgatoryironworks  8 ปีที่แล้ว

      Not really.

    • @ubiquidic9823
      @ubiquidic9823 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      The recipes on the stuff ive got say beeswax and and oil.will this not work

  • @RobertStokewood
    @RobertStokewood 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great vid, thanks. Quick question: Have you tried it with raw linseed? I am curious about the hardening chems they add to boiled linseed. I oil blacken a lot of stuff and the boiled linseed creates a pretty toxic smoke with the heavy metals in it but I hear raw linseed is totally safe to heat.

  • @jamesgmac2258
    @jamesgmac2258 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very nice!

  • @ashman0071
    @ashman0071 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    great video - don't need to worry about galvanic rust with Iron if your house isn't grounded properly / Aluminum - you better watch out - easier fix is carnauba car spray on wax.....if you're a scientist - do part of the railing with coconut or linseed oil or whatever oil you like vs. the spray on auto carnauba wax - you decide what's easier and better......still should sand and repaint it every 5 years none the less......are you a Gardner or a Flower ?

  • @purgatoryironworks
    @purgatoryironworks  15 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    hobby lobby usually carries 1lb blocks!

  • @tomrudd530
    @tomrudd530 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Angel City.... yup been there!

  • @KySurivorMan
    @KySurivorMan 14 ปีที่แล้ว

    How do you aplie it on metal????

    • @thomasarussellsr
      @thomasarussellsr 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Cold or warm, the metal does not have to be hot. Still touchable surface is plenty warm enough, but works well cold too (not like freezing cold, room temperature).

  • @ziepit
    @ziepit 16 ปีที่แล้ว

    nice vid and thanks

  • @maximeb190
    @maximeb190 ปีที่แล้ว

    Could you swap the turpentine with any other solvants? Like mineral spirit, acetone, etc. ?

  • @kaziklu79
    @kaziklu79 16 ปีที่แล้ว

    My english isn't excellent and i couldn't understand the third ingredient, so please, let someone write it. Thanks!

    • @Daytona2
      @Daytona2 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Linseed oil - oil from flax plant
      en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linseed_oil
      translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=en&tl=bg&u=https%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FLinseed_oil&prev=search

  • @piecartbox
    @piecartbox 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    It darkens my boots, but then they lighten up again after some use.

  • @FritzCrafts
    @FritzCrafts 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Gotta be a ga thing love oldschool

  • @TheTurinturumbar
    @TheTurinturumbar 9 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Twenty times cheaper? I don't know what that means, is it another way of saying a twentieth of the price?

  • @ziepit
    @ziepit 15 ปีที่แล้ว

    ok thank you

  • @purgatoryironworks
    @purgatoryironworks  12 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The turpentine will dry and the smell will fade rapidly!

    • @poornimar241
      @poornimar241 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      purgatoryironworks can it be used for copper jewellery...???for coating it

  • @Patroand
    @Patroand 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Add Carnuba wax to your recipe, it will last longer because Carnuba wax is harder!

  • @ziepit
    @ziepit 15 ปีที่แล้ว

    yes

  • @joeyripswell
    @joeyripswell 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    boiled linseed oil is pretty toxic

  • @AndrewPrice2704
    @AndrewPrice2704 16 ปีที่แล้ว

    Linseed Oil -- hth :)

  • @rjiggy07
    @rjiggy07 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank You!