Why Can't I See My Height Map In My 3D View | Substance Designer
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 5 ก.ย. 2024
- A common issue when first starting out in Substance Designer. BUT, a real easy fix. Let's take a look at how we can visualize the Height Map from our graph in our 3D View!
Please share this around, this question gets asked all the time.
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Video starting at 00:30
Before waste of time
If it's still not working:
-Do a rightclick on your "Base Material" Node and select "View in 3D view"
-go again to "materials" > "Default" then > "physically_metallic_rougness (default)" > "Tessellation"
-(Scale should also be at 10 like he explained it in the video)
i need to do this 3 steps every time i open the programm/load a project...
if i change the cube to a cylinder, it also doesn't get saved and changes to cube after reload :/
Ya, as far as I know there isn't the option to have these options saved on reload, sadly... Would be a nice option, I'm sure I've spent an accumulated several hours just turning everything on when I load a new project.
@@GetLearnt
ya, really weird that it's not "saveable" since it's such basic stuff.
well, i already spend couple hours searching for a solution xD
Thankyou it helped
Litrally searched the web for this answer, thank you so much!
I've come back to this video three times now because I'm a noob and keep forgetting. SOOO helpful. Thank you!
Haha, ya it certainly could be less hidden than it is. I wish they just had something in the 3D view, that'd make more sense!
The best video, thanks for shared!!!!
Ha, thanks for checking it out! Definitely a very useful tip. :)
@@GetLearnt hey bro, if you don’t ask for much, you can create a tutorial teaching how to make a texture like this
encurtador.com.br/dpqH0
when you have time, of course
Thanks For the Tip.
What is the different Between Height Map And Tessellation?
Happy to help! And the difference is that they are two completely different things. The Height Map is a bitmap image that we use to determine the displacement of vertices on a 3D mesh. Tessellation is essentially the method that we can then use to add more or less "tessellations/subdivisions/vertices" to that 3D mesh to provide it more or less resolution for more or less accurate displacement of the geometry.
Basically, higher tessellation = more vertices on our mesh, and vice versa for lower tessellation. :)
@@GetLearnt Thank You so much. Very helpful information.
@@LaFaisal No prob! Thanks for checking out the video. :)
Спасибо! сам додумался до этого, но ломал голову почему не получается. Оказывается просто забыл накинуть ноду высот на саму модель в 3d view. Может кому поможет)
same
thanks for the help 😃 my material looks good now, but this "height information" is nothing the Substance Painter is working with, right? because I wanted to work with my material now and in the Painter it looks a little bit flatter than in the Designer🤔
My pleasure! So the Height Map channel data from your materials can be used when brought into Painter, however you will need to actually set up that functionality in Painter like we did here, it won't display automatically (even though that data is there in the material). I'm not sure how to set that up in Painter since I use an older version, but looking up "Substance Painter Height Displacement" should yield some results!
@@GetLearnt Thank you very much for the help and the super fast response. I will definitely try this☺
@@maddog6345 Best of luck! :)
Okay, so I did this, but I don't get that same effect. It just gives me (seemingly) random shapes instead of the pattern I have defined. Do you have any ideas as to why? I'm working in 2020.2.2 (10.2.2) from steam, on the PBR (Met/Rough) template, and it just doesn't seem to want to pop like yours or the tutorial I'm following
To use Parallax Occlusion mapping efficiently, make sure you have the same information going into your Height output and converted into a Normal map format for your Normal output. If you have seemingly random patterns, chances are you need to check one of those two outputs, because you may have info going into there that you are unaware of/is different than what you are anticipating. Make sure your info is also not super contrasted, that will give you some pretty bad height info. Finally, play around with the scale of your height slider in the settings, as well as the height nap itself to make sure you don't have too large a range between your values. :)
@@GetLearnt I was on tessellation like the tutorial I was following was, but when I switched back to Parallax Occlusion it did exactly what I expected it to. So thank you for the help!
@@Arkanelancer Ah that'd do it! Happy you figured it out! :)
In tessalation if you are use plane Hi-Rez to get rezults not the normal plane
@@marioc647 OH MY GOD YOU'VE FIXED A PROBLEM I'VE HAD FOR WEEKS! LORD PRAISE YOU SIR!!!
Thanks for the note. Never used Substance, but the edge of the sphere is still flat? So it is no real displacement in the 3d view in substance? It‘s confusing 😁
There is no "real displacement". He showed you a parallax, but you can select tessellation.
@@Mrstefaaaaaan Yep, you got it! This video is more in relation to the question I get on all my videos "why doesn't my height look like yours?". In those videos, I'm mostly using Parallax Occlusion Mapping, which is not physical geometry displacement. But, Tessellation is also an option like Stefan mentioned, which is actual geometry displacement. Two separate methods of Height Map visualization within the 3D viewport. :)
Thank you!
Happy to help! :)
I had proper nodes... Yesterday i can see my results in 3d view but today when i start substance designer again its show just a plane cube.. idk why i cant see my effects... I did this also but not working 😓
Do you have your nodes running into Output nodes by chance? Output nodes by default are how you are able to display your materials on your meshes.
fast and easy... the way i like 'em!
You calling me fast and easy?! 😂 Glad you liked it!
i understand your video soo clearly but when i apply same method to Adobe substance 2022 ... the mesh either in tessellation/parallax still jagged around the edges ... i've even crancked it up to 64 tessellation factor , looks slightly better but make the navigation so laggy according to adding vertices to the mesh procedure !
I wonder how to solve this trade-off situation ? sooo confusing
currently i'm switching to a high-res rounded cube with minimizing the tessellation factor to 16 applying non-uniform blur to get even better smoothing result ... but still not 100% clear of jagged edges :(
Often times jagged edges can be a result of your Height map being too sharp/contrasted. You can try running it through some type of Blur node to see if that helps smooth things out a bit. Then you won't need as many vertices as well. :)
@@GetLearnt straight to the point ,
Also, i've found shape extrude node which i use to add some height info too tricky
It's kinda like tessellation (adding some geometry) + height scale (which stretch abit of them by nature) + additional height from shape extrude which is adding further more stretching .... too dump solution :D
you are totally right , thanks alot :)
God bless you
😁
I'm new to substance designer, when i use a curve node on a gradient linear and manipulate the curve to make changes to gradient it does not show up on 3d view right, even though i increase the scale in material edit, the height effect in the 3d view is so subtle, i connect this curve to normal map, height and AO, Please tell me what am i doing wrong?
Hmm, honestly based on that explanation I'm not entirely sure what the issue may be at first glance. Are you using Parallax Occlusion or Tessellation for your display in 3D?
@@GetLearnt finally figured it out, height depth in AO was pretty low,that's why small details weren't showing up well
@@farzanehtavakoli9491 Oh nice, glad it was an easy fix! :)
I adore you.
Oh stop, I'll blush. 😊
This is great video eventhough it is 1.44 minute
Haha, I figured I should keep it short and sweet. 😁
turn on captions, you wont regret it.
Ok there's a little bit of regret haha. 😄
It's not working... My God... so frustrating to not get a simple answer... just.... I'm just ...lol!!!!!
So if you've followed the steps in this video, you also need to make sure you have a greyscale height map plugged into an output node that is specified to show "height". If you have that in your graph with a height map plugged in, try right clicking on that output node and selecting "View in 3D". It should automatically be used as a height map in your 3D view, however you may also need to select it. If none of this seems to work for you, there may be an issue with your download of Substance Designer.
LOL! Nope! Not working.