Regardless of what or who was right in this case, this is why you don't start altercations with strangers. You never know what anyone is capable of. Its not worth acting tough in front of your friends no matter who is at fault you can always walk away. This whole scenario was senseless and could have been avoided.
After this, people still think it is unjustified when a police officer shoots someone who comes at them with a knife. Almost as if a knife is a deadly weapon
Officer: Do you have any weapons in this vehicle? You: No. Officer: Do you have a tire iron in the trunk? You: Yes. Officer: You are under arrest for lying to an officer of the law and being in possession of a deedly weapon. You: 🙀😲😲😲
I think most people realize the traumatized screams and cries from people who just went for a swim and ended up trying to save dead/dying/disemboweled people is generally regarded as hard to hear or see. There are lots of things that people are sensitive about but seeing a crisis like this is certainly not one@@Mcrnightlife
@@bjjbrawler1He’s the one who was FA and sadly the kids FO! One paid with their life! An adult shouldn’t have been triggered by a group of kids calling him names! I doubt that was even the truth, as he lied about everything else. He was only concerned with evading prosecution and not having to pay consequences for his actions!
Someone with the man’s own group saw what happened and testified. The reason he saw it was because he followed the old man. He wanted to make sure he was okay because someone might think he was up to no good, like looking at children. That’s the same thing the group of young people said. I’m shocked the prosecution didn’t emphasize this statement during testimony. The guy gutted them like he’d done it before.
Unpopular opinion: there's more than one person who is responsible for this tragedy. Never bully people. Especially in groups and people you don't know. Sad but my sympathy is limited.
the hyena filming who thought everything was SO funny turned in2 a screaming little female dog once things got real…social media has these kids thinking there’s no such thing as consequences…stop messing with people for clicks and likes
@@robjohnson3883 "social media has these kids thinking there’s no such thing as consequences" And yet you are watching this video on social media that teaches that there are consequences. What are you talking about.
So the kids were being loud and were drinking. He approached them, he didn't leave, he drew a weapon, and then he attacked. He walked into a situation that wasn't needed and he stayed until they gave him a reason to 'defend' himself. Kids being loud and disrespectful is no reason for them to be murdered.
@@CassandraYwhat about the fact that the guy asked minors for pictures and then doubled down when confronted?? He just didn't like being called a p*do in public.
@@CassandraY They were calling him a child molester, bullying tf out of him and doing so while filming thinking it will make it go viral, and it did, just not in the way they hoped. They hoped to post the video before they fell asleep that night not feeling the least bit of guilt over blasting a man as a pedophile all over social fkn media. The worst invention in the history of our planet for ruining peoples lives
@@CassandraY He is simply saying you have no idea what goes on in a strangers head, don't antagonize people you don't know cause next thing you know you got a massacre right in front of you, the teenagers were yelling and talking shit as well as calling him a pedo, that's not something you really wanna say to someone you don't know, especially in person cause it can and will cost the lives of a few or many. He is not saying what that man did was right at all, I can't believe i have to explain this to you.
FREE THAT MAN! also that black racist fake claiming that he is a pedo and taking pics on little girls while he said ''take one for the culture'' like the white people are pedos... the real instigator
@@DJJunkfoodJay fr kid recording was laughing and having the time of his life when they were pushing Nic into the water and jumping him. Couple seconds later, he was crying for his mom
You could see the look in his eyes on the river when something changed for him. I do think he was scared, but that’s not how 99.9% of people react to fear. Those kids had no idea he would react that way.
why were they calling this complete stranger a pedo and child molestor? Because he had a snorkle looking for something?? Weird. Ok so the kids were being mean and bullying when the man was just looking for his phone to begin with. The whole situation is bad. The kids should've just kept floating on and left the man alone
You can watch the trial, Nic was looking for his friends cell phone, looked like Nic may have thought the Black kid had it and went over to him and touched his leg which set the whole thing off
They were just FLOATING but yet he decides to turn BACK around, tries to push them out of their tires, then punches an adult woman NOT apart of this group and then starts stabbing kids. He should have left at the 31:20 mark. Duh.
The guy who stabbed these kids was definitely in the wrong, but definitely in the beginning, watching how caring and helpful they were being. They honestly seemed like different people after watching the video of them harassing the guy who stabbed them definitely a prime example of why we should treat each other the way we wish to be treated And be kind and respectful. You never know what someone is willing or capable of doing just like this guy he had absolutely no history of anything and literally snapped. Thoughts and prayers to all involved
To be honest from this whole situation it’s sad on both ends everybody gotta start teaching their kids to learn when to stop going after someone they don’t know. When he tried walking away they followed after him. Then people started touching him if you have people who are yelling and being rude in a threatening manner and someone you don’t know comes up to you and touches you while being hostile defend yourself point blank. He’s looked at as a killer but it’s really self defense. His life is gonna be spent in jail because these adults arent aware of how their kids act
Comprehension skills. Instead of making sure you're going to be offended, what about trying to understand the point made by the other party before yapping? @@DemosIoannou
With the way some people treat each other, these days, I'm surprised things like this don't happen more often. People being petty and cruel or going straight to violence, is sad, and very wrong.
The Midwest river is a tough beast. I have ridden many rivers in the Midwest and tbh.. lots of people drinking including myself.. and lots of tense moments. Shame on both parties😢✝️🦅🇺🇸
@@NeonEclipse910 de-ranged- de- monic , it is the work of the evil one but he has no power beyond this life all power in Eternal Life belongs to the Lord our God, our Father, the creator of all things, Jesus Christ, Yeshuha Hamashiach, the one True son of and God in the flesh.
@elainekellogg6345 some definitely saw it and said nothing. They should have walked straight up to the police and said they saw a fight and that their friend was involved.
Why did he lie so much? If I was a juror, that's what would have made me vote guilty. An innocent person has no reason to lie. But that's what he did from the moment the sheriff made contact all the way through his trial.
Yes the kids were wrong for calling him names… but correct me if I’m wrong but us grown ups should be able to regular our emotions so that words don’t turn into a situation as so. This nic guys is the real evil. Hope he doesn’t step foot out of jail.
The recordings from the teens smartphones shows how things really went ... they shouldn't have bullied a stranger in an already stressful situation instead of helping him. The world is sick and this is but a symptom.
The young people group was standing around perplexed acting as if they were these innocent little lambs. The guy with the camera was the initial aggressor in the group also
And the grown man with a weapon didn't have to approach them and stay there until he had a reason to 'defend' himself. Just because some kid out there gets drunk and is loud is no reason for them to die.
You're actually more likely to survive your bowels hanging out and being pushed back in and sewed up than you are to take a direct hit to the heart. Believe it or not...
Wow this video was intense. I applaud the efforts of the team that not only cut it together into a coherent story to present in short form on YT, but also to be able to endure the probable hours of screaming a crying of the victims while trying to cut the video segments. Thank you.
They screwed around with old man and they found out the hard way. Why on earth would they call him a pedophile and circle around him like that. I have no sympathy for any of those teens.
apparently he had been grabbing at them bc his friend lost his phone and he immediately assumed they had stolen it. they didn't appreciate being touched and reacted with aggression, which made him obscenely angry. this is all him being a weirdo--no shot his friend wanted this to happen over a phone he briefly misplaced
Urghhh what will they do without your sympathy 🥺. Firstly you are wrong nic started it all by coming up to them and staying when it was obvious he wasn’t wanted then punching the lady in the face. When you turn a verbal situation into a physical one is where I draw the line v
@@josephp.8778 Thats exactly what happened. Your just making stuff up. They shouted at him at a distance and then he made sure that he had his knife and then began approaching them clearly wanting to kill them because he is an insane individual.
the stabbed was the one who incited the entire incident and therefore killings trying to be vigilant against literally nothing , so if anything he was harassing others and ended up killing a teenager , you sitting here trying to justify it is what’s wrong with this country
@BushidoNinja im not defending the guy at all mind, but when you are surrounded by people shoving you this way and that, calling you a rapist and molester, what would you do? He probably felt threatened by them. How can you walk away when they continue? He isn't justified at all mind you, but it's a fight or flight response.
@@hugoplante6698he clearly walked up to them again after being a couple feet from them in the start of the video. When you’re a grown ass man and a couple of teenagers are yelling stupid stuff YOU know aren’t true, why would you go up, check your knife in your pocket and escalate the situation? Not excusing the kids, their behavior is extremely annoying and childish but they are not developed yet and he had every chance to just walk away BEFORE he got pushed down and shoved. Also notice how he started physical contact, punched the girl etc etc. Again not excusing the kids but he started the physical altercation before it was just words being yelled by drunk dumb kids
Sadly, no lessons learned. Parents all think their kids were angels even tho they were acting like entitled little sh*ts on the day of the incident. The kids probably think they are all victims even after they agitated a stranger. And Nik lost his cool one time, and it cost him his freedom. Only hope is that thousands of people watching the vid learn something and avoid the same fate.
"Hey, have you guys seen a phone? My friend lost his and I'm looking for it. No? Okay" Everyone lives, nobody goes to prison, no lifelong scars and trauma.
At the start of the video, those kids had all my sympathy. But towards the end, especially after seeing the video of how they ganged up on him, not so much. I’m not saying anyone deserves to die like that, but the reality is, they created that situation for themselves. All they had to do was be kind, respectful and leave the guy alone.
I felt exactly the same - was crying watching the start but when I seen their smartphones taunting the line man all ganging up all around him while he was just trying to find his friends phone - my tears dried up.
They still have my sympathy. Nobody deserves to be stabbed and gutted out. He didn't have to respond like that. Victims aren't perfect but that doesn't mean that what happened is any less horrific.
After they ganged up on HIM??? He attacked them FIRST physically at the 31:20, when he could have kept walking back to his group but he turns around and runs toward them, attacks them, they scatter, then he punches a random ADULT woman & then starts stabbing. How is not obvious?!!! Don't answer.
@@beezeeznutzand they didn’t need to antagonize the situation, 6 people deep on one lone man?? Tell me where that’s fair?? Why should he have had to stand down? No one wants to hold those kids responsible for their terrible behavior. That’s crazy to me.
Young people today don’t understand the consequences of their actions. This is consequences of said action. You don’t get to bully people because you think you are funny and it’s not funny to call someone a pedophile or they’re looking for something it was a miscommunication on everyone’s part, but those kids were looking to fuck with somebody and they found out.
Those kids were begging it to be honest just leave people alone. They were just pushing him to snap. Imagine he had a gun. Playing with their lives, from the joyfullness of making fun of someone to fear of what transpired. Just be nice and don’t push people’s button.
Easy to say but if you've got 4-5 people attacking you...walking away may not be an option. Add to that, the terrain they were in...shallow water and heavy vegetation? Hard place to run away with all the teenagers on the shore. I've been in similar situations as both a civilian and a deputy, in most of the cases...I was lucky enough to be armed most of times. Fortunately, I didn't have to seriously hurt anyone but I do understand the fear. Mob mentality, especially with drunk teenagers, is a very dangerous thing.
I also think there's a bit of guilt on the group of teens that it escalated this badly. They called him multiple bad names (as he was walking away first), pushed him, cornered him. If a guy is aggressive, (maybe drunk), it surely makes him flip and "see red"... As sad and tragic as it is.
@@sunnystormy4973 I saw the videos the teens took. Don't tell me you wouldn't get mad if someone called you a p*do or r*pist without reason. As I said, it does in no way justify his reaction but should be noted.
Unfortunate situation but calling a random person a pedo and rapist can be considered fighting words meaning the victim's where not innocent and in my view they escalated the situation 100%
They were far from innocent. They harrassed, assaulted, antagonized, and threatened. The black kid had to be removed from the trial due to his inconsistencies where they proved he lied numerous times. The girl stabbed was in his face. They were all underaged drinking. The story is absolutely insane.
@@buyaj7693 notice how you said “fighting words” and not “stab people words”. Just cus someone is saying something that pisses you off doesn’t mean you get to walk up to them and murder them.
@@reellifeoutdoors2905 I agree with you 100%. The kinda had it coming to them. I watched this whole thing over this past summer and remember a part of the video when they were holding the guys face down in the water. Just absolutely rotten kids!
@@reellifeoutdoors2905 I agree with you 100%. The kinda had it coming. I watched this whole thing over this past summer and remember a part of the video when they were holding the guys face down in the water. Just absolutely rotten kids!
That honestly isnt a bad idea. I believe they should have a mandatory class that teaches this stuff kind of like when we had home economics. Itd be nice for kids to learn how to make a resume and cover letter, deescalation of situations, the downside to social media, etc.
Let this be a lesson to young people to respect people. Something that's in SHORT supply in the western world. A little bit of respect would have went a LONG way.
Respect must be earned. The accused and convicted showed zero respect towards the young adults that asked him to go away and leave them alone. He is where he belongs.
@malinko35. Exactly,those young bullies might think twice before harassing and defaming someone they don't even know.Oh well,one less bully on the earth.I hope that the poor old guy is doing okay.
I feel like there’s some level of guilt on the teens too, but yeah he still shouldn’t have killed them (duh). Just an awful situation and I’m sure the teens will never mock another person like that either. Glad AJ made it
The kids were underage drinking with adults. Any other case and they would have been arrested, it's ironic the kids are calling the guy a PDF File but they are the ones with minors.
These kids bullied him to a point where he really must've felt in fear for his life. Doesn't excuse what he did, but I don't believe for one second that he ever said he was "looking for little girls." This was totally avoidable if not for the bullies. Won't watch to the end because I don't believe justice was served to either side. 😠
They literally followed him while he was wading away, granted because it's downstream, but they followed and antagonized. Saying the old guy had every opportunity to leave is projection.
Exactly. I have followed this case since it happened and these kids aren’t innocent whatsoever. They antagonized and harassed this man and expected him to not do anything? They clearly weren’t raised right
Are you watching the same video as the rest of us? Or are you just seeing it how you want? Because they clearly yelled at him to leave over and over and he stood there like an idget
These punk kids FAFO. I'm not defending Nic, he needs to go to jail, but this is the end result of a whole generation who have absolutely no respect for themselves or anyone else. A lost generation.
Are you serious? They were shouting and being ridiculous but Nic could have walked away. They were all in their tubes until he leapt at one of them. Even when they were surrounding him, they were laughing and shouting and being stupid, but they did not touch him, he could still have walked away. You saw in the video that Nic made the decision to get his knife out and start stabbing. He was the only one with a knife.
It's not a generational fault. If it is, that's on their parents. Kids have been doing dumb stuff and picking fights since the beginning of time it's just on video now
It's a generational problem but not from us, The old guy literally left the entire area and went to his car to get a knife BEFORE coming back again to argue with them the second time. After which he was caught lying and hiding the murder weapon. You old idiots have fucked our planet to death and can't take any accountability for anything. The only contribution you've given us is teaching the younger generations how to scam and take advantage of every law/inch you guys can get. Stop trying to blame millennials for all of the problems YOUR generation created.
"To say its their fault is despicable!" Well, calling someone a rapist and pedo for asking if someone found a phone is despicable. Its almost as if thsse teens escalated a normal encounter into a verbally violent one, then it got physical, they figured their numbers would save them and it didnt. These kids are 100% responsible for provoking the attack. No doubt in my mind.
You must be deaf all I hear is a bunch of teens telling him to get away from them. So loudly in fact that another group of people came to help them and tried to deescalate the situation by also telling him to walk away. He chose to fight a large group of people instead of fleeing. Idk about you but if I am truly scared for my life against that many people I would have ran away, not towards the threat
Imagine calling 911 and hearing "Your call is very important to use so please stay on the line and your call will be answered by the next available representative. Your approximate wait time is 45 minutes." Dystopian
You just don't get an attorney assigned to you. Maranda states "If you can't afford an attorney..." The income level for not being able to afford an attorney is low. If this guy has multiple degrees he most likely has a job that puts him well above the free level
Holy crap, thank you so much to all the cops and bystanders helping; this video was absolutely insane, and I would have been frozen in fear unable to do anything…
I’m 8 and a half minutes in and tearing up at the extensive footage of these first responders and civilians so desperately trying to save lives. I feel for anyone who was traumatized by this event.
I watched the whole trial, twice. It wasn't fair and his sentence was too high. He will die in prison. Those teens were disgusting. They lied on the stand. Their prior bad acts and continuation of engaging in crimes and underage drinking post incident wasn't addressed. They learned nothing and still have no respect for older people. They limited all good info and character witnesses about Nic. They didn't go into his upbringing. Those teens caused that situation.
He approached them and began putting his hands on them in his stuff while poorly explaining himself. There drunk kids I agree they didnt respond the best but he should have walked away. He only stayed to accuse them of stealing. Then he pulled out his knife when the only one touching him was a girl from a different group. He wanted to stab someone.
Both sides lied. Nic claimed self defense and lied he grabbed the KIDS knife but video clearly show it was his knife. Kind of lose your self defense claim when you lie about where the weapon came from. So ya once he lost that then it’s just straight murder because you lost your temper
I’ve seen MANY stories of this case but this video goes beyond and above anything I’ve seen. You guys got it ALL!!! Thank you for this informative video.
These kids absolutely caused this problem. I never once acted like this growing up. I never will. He was looking for a phone in what sounds like a new country and was treated this way. I interact with children all the time that will get pure joy out of making your life living hell then the moment they face consequences act like total victims. Normally I would have just left and called the cops on the kids, but given how they assaulted him first, I can’t pretend like I wouldn’t have done the same thing. I hope the kids who made it out got a very clear memory of what happens when you assault and gang up on a grown stranger with a weapon. Also, based on the video, those girls are absolutely kidding themselves if they think anyone would want to creep on them.
Wow just an evil comment to make. Yes the kids used words… atleast w words you can wake up the next day… glad this lunatic is jailed and hope he never steps foot outside of it too.
@@Gangai263 using words to hurt someone’s mentality is no different than using hands to hurt someone physically. Cowards hide behind words like they aren’t meaningful. Kinda sick of people saying “it was only words” - clearly wasn’t just words in this case so why act like that’s all they did? I’m Not on his side or theirs but why make things up that don’t fit the story,
@@Gangai263 I agree with you. Seriously, what the hell are these comments. A grown ass man can't walk away from kids calling him names? I've seen better behaviour from preteens. He went back to an escalating situation. Even if a fight broke out, a stable person wouldn't stab at obvious teens. He even admitted that he didn't think they were old enough to be drinking. All these pathetic ass comments "FAFO" ok maybe for getting in a tussle but slashing intestines out of a body? Stabbing someone so hard to break ribs and enter his heart? Piece of shit lunatic.
the stabbed was the one who incited the entire incident and therefore killings trying to be vigilant against literally nothing , so if anything he was harassing others and ended up killing a teenager , you sitting here trying to justify it is what’s wrong with this country
There are some outright lies in those 911 calls. The individual was not harassing anyone. The teens were harasding him calling him a pedophile, saying he was hunting children, snd finally attacked him hitting him and pushing his head underwater when he would not follow their orders. He was wrong snd is punished but there is enough blame to go around that river that day. Bullying a man is why this happened. Unfortunately he was unlike their prior victims.
yes he was unlike the prior "bullying" victims because he was an evil man with a knife and no regard for human life. That was not self defense that was an excuse to kill and do harm. If he truly felt he was in danger why would he not just leave hmm
I watched the trial. I also saw the confrontation videos. The kids were absolutely not innocent. Accusing him of being a PDF file, hitting him and pushing him under water when he was turned away. Of course, he deserved being punished to some degree, but again, these kids were also drunk and made poor choices that sadly resulted in the death of their friend.
@@neurologylove2135 true! those dumb kids shouldn't have made the decision to get brutally stabbed and get their friend murdered. gfr lmao literal teenagers being blamed for a crazy 50 year old man on an ego trip. HE. LITERALLY. WALKS. BACK. UP. TO. THEM. Why is he even interacting with them to begin with? Because he was not mentally stable!
@@zachburke1Not entirely, eventually they’re old and mature enough to make their own decisions. They looked more like college students then high schoolers and college students arguably act dumber than high schoolers and yet they’re mature enough to know how to act like decent people and choose not to
Agreed. They pushed the old man around, called him a pedo when he was clearly looking for something (a friend’s phone) in the water. The actions of miu were egregious / the threat of a knife alone likely would have stopped the assault, but that said, this all transpired because of the vicious nonsense those boys were spewing. He wasn’t trying to “separate” their tubes!?? He was looking for a lost phone
I was a dumb young man once and had some rowdy friends that acted like these kids. Middle of a bar yelling and pointing at some random dude they didnt like and getting people to harass them out. One time the guy had friends and there was a huge fight, my former friend got knocked out and we all left. My old friend group was all saying it was the other groups fault and being dramatic asf about it despite being the instigators. There were always girls present and everyone just escalated and got all hyped up and even when i was drunk i thought they were acting like dumb hyenas. Im glad there wasnt a guy like this when we were stupid assholes. That was the only real fight ive been in and I now have better friends that dont start shit with random people.
Stop Typing. He attacked them FIRST physically at the 31:20, when he could have kept walking back to his group but he turns around and runs toward them, attacks them, they scatter, then he punches a random ADULT woman & then starts stabbing.
@@Deelifull That's when you call 911, what they did after that is what you do when you want to gamble with your life. They aren't blameless, just like the murderer isn't innocent. The moment he hit the lady, they back off and dial 911, they did the exact opposite of that and escalated it beyond the point of no return because they thought numbers would protect them. Both things can be true.
@@richardcampbell8685yea he came up and attacked the teens.. people get stabbed all the time for absolutely nothing. You need to maybe look more into what you're saying cause you sound very ignorant.
“Is this real?” They really thought they’d never encounter someone who would react in such an extreme fashion. This should never have happened but is an extreme case of FAFO. Bet the rest never shout abuse at a random again.
Parents, teach your children better! Also, if they can’t be trusted to not drink alcohol and harass people, then YOU NEED TO SUPERVISE THEM AT ALL TIMES! This situation is partly your fault!
@lillymurray8408 One child would still be alive had those children not been drinking alcohol. Have you watched the full video, where several of the teens were taunting the old man? Those brats started the entire thing. It was disgusting what was coming out of their mouths. I don’t condone what the old guy did. But I do understand his fears. And I don’t get why you don’t think parents need to be held accountable for their children’s behavior outside the home? Or are you just miffed that I have an opinion that differs from yours?
I must say I find it weird that the US class, what most countries class as young adults, as kids. I am not trying to excuse what happened but that man was surrounded by a group shouting and being quite threatening.
The man never needed to approach them. I'm not excusing the kids at all, but this was a situation that did not need to be escalated into murder. He had ever chance to walk away, but he chose to attack them.
They are litterally yelling get away from us. So loudly that another group came to also tell him to get away from them. At some point you got to say hmm maybe it’s me that’s the problem and not litterally everyone else who witnessed it.
@@Poppopoff He approached them and then refused to leave. Of course the kids were going to push him away. It's was all so pointless! The man really comes off as someone that was looking for a fight.
@@CassandraY Maybe not looking for a fight but was insulted/degraded and felt he had to uphold some sort of "honor" maybe. You're right, completely pointless at the end, regardless
Legally what is wrong w that ? Mfs like you are the real problem do you even know the context of it ? Nic the murder thought the teens had his friends phone and the boys were trolling him. He later escalated the situation by punching a lady and then escalated it further by stabbing people.
I think the basic spark plug of this entire event, that seems to have been overlooked as to motivation, was that Nic ASSUMED these kids had found his friend's cell phone and were hiding it from him...thats why he started overturning the tubes initially looking for it....maybe thats where the 'child molestor' chanting originated from and the whole thing escalated...but i think the 'lost cell phone' was the defining moment that started all the mayhem to begin with...crazy story all the way around~
@@boomnews815 he may have told him later at some point but im sure thats why Nic had the snorkel as he approached the group of teens, is all im saying~
Thank you for bringing it back to this because the comments keep projecting their stories onto the case. Like what are the facts??? Did the phone ever turn up with that group? Why was he over there? Did anyone verify that? Was the pedo thing ignorance or true? People wanna feel bad for him for being bullied and stuff… I wanna see the context. Awful situation
What this guy did is wrong, but anyone not putting blame on those kids is also at fault. Those kids antagonized this guy thinking it was funny because they never had consequences. Well unfortunately they found consequences the bad way.
I go back and forth on this. The kids were flat out mean and ultimately set this event in motion. It was wrong. I remember being a teenager and how we acted in groups. The group fuels itself no matter the behavior, but especially bad behavior. On the other hand, this guy is a whole ass adult. He should be able to handle some kids yelling baseless insults at him no matter what they were saying. At the end of the day a grown man killed a CHILD over insults that he knew were not true. He’s a killer.
Your argument isn’t an attempt to excuse him slashing and killing people, but rather an attempt to highlight that the people who were harmed very complicit to the events that unfolded. Two things can be true at once, they participated and arguably augmented the crime committed against them. Had they just left the dude alone and stopped insulting him, maybe he wouldn’t have slashed them. Someone died because of their behavior. Rest in peace Isaac, very unfortunate.
I remember watching this on Law and Crime and thinking that Nick wouldn’t be found guilty. It’s still such a hard case for me - he shouldn’t of lied right away, and ditched the knife if it was truly him defending himself, but then I get freaking tf out in that moment.
This new generation is so doomed. They think everything is virtual and without consequence. Ignorance and youth go hand in hand, but this new breed is so connected with phones that they fail to comprehend the severity of near and present dangers. They poked and prodded this stranger into creating a nightmare scenerio. This is shameful behavior for all involved, old and young. Its such a damn shame.
true. they're all zombies. generally they only attend to their smartphones and when looking up they cant cope with reality. i live in a big city and see it permanently. nearly everyone. zombies. they don't event know they are tho.
This guy was attacked by a mob of angry kids and strangers. He defended himself. The fact he was found guilty is ridiculous! These kids started everything and attacked him! FAFO!
You never know when someone might snap.! Therefore just leave people alone. Walk away, don’t instigate confrontation. This was totally avoidable if teens/young adults had kept their mouths shut and went about their business having fun.! Instead they provoke, instigate violence and create their own problems.!!! Sad world we live in these days. Very sad.!!!
I've seen and read about this case. The man was assaulted multiple times and every person he stabbed literally had a hand on him and he never lunged or even took a single step. They were in the process of assaulting him. That should have been considered when they charged him. Not defending his actions but there are two sides to this story. He deserved the charges he got because he did go back near the group but he didn't deserve the sentence. In fact I cannot understand how so many of those vile teens didn't get charged with assaulting him.
I’m glad SOMEONE in this comment section knows the details. I’ve been following it since the beginning. There are far too many people that say Nik started it and was the aggressor which is not true whatsoever
If I found myself surrounded by an increasing number of intoxicated people accusing me of being a CP, I’d absolutely fear for my life. It’s well-known that most people have an immediate and often violent reaction to CPs and for understandable reasons. Among a drunk crowd, these accusations, whether out of a twisted sense of humor or a misunderstanding, can quickly morph into an absolute fact. Add some water to the situation, and hell no. I want to say I'd run instead, but in that situation, who knows.. Anyways, this is precisely why, after a self-defense situation, you should never answer questions without legal counsel. We’ve all experienced moments where we misinterpreted events in the heat of the moment only to later realize our initial memories were far from what really happened. No matter how much you want to cooperate, the safest course of action is to remain calm and silent, and wait for an attorney.
They didn't surrounded him, only after he punched a girl in a face. Before that he was told many times to walk away. It seems the most people are not grasping content of such a long videos correctly
Every action has a reaction. I will never condone what happened however this is a direct result of today's society and people not used to having to deal with real reactions or being held accountable for their words, ridicule, or approach. This is especially true in our youth and you can hear it in their voices laughing until reality hit.😮 Yes, he could have walked away. However, there is also a lot of responsibility and blame to be put onto the "victim" party. People joke around with the F around and find out meme thinking they are tough. Well, this is the reality version of that. Sad for all involved and let it be a lesson. You dont know people or their capabilities and be respectful.
I feel like I get what you're trying to say but you're not saying it, these children saying crazy shit does not give them any responsibility for being stabbed. Okay Boomer?!
@@mollychamberlain804 Nice try but you failed. They weren't just saying 'crazy shit' but rather surrounding and cornering ONE man... A whole mob of hostile, yelling, drunk people surrounding him...yes, they do need to take some responsibility sweetheart, and so do you mili. Maybe put down your phone for a few minutes and start thinking.
Oh well they shouldn’t have been bullying that old man ….they attacked him 1st as well…there’s no rules that says how to defend yourself….I don’t feel bad at all this new generation is disrespectful and has no respect for anyone and never takes accountability for their actions …which could’ve been avoided if they never messed with him in the 1st place …bet they won’t bully no one again 😂
@@Sleepingcoffee979 this video leaves out a lot of available video out there. It appears whoever put this video together has a very strong bias as the available but missing video parts all put the kids in a very very very bad light. I was honestly surprised this guy was convicted.
I hear what your saying and agree with most of it, especially the part about the lack of respect and accountability found in todays youth. A kid was killed. That's a bridge too far for me. The others whoever, learned a valuable lesson that a have a feeling they'll carry with them for the rest of their lives.
Except it wasn’t self defense….it was his knife he brought out and the way he stabbed all the kills was not in self defense. There’s a completely different stance in how you hold and cut with a knife with intent kill and with self defense…please educate yourself. Both parties are in the wrong but Russian man went over the edge. Went full on classic Russian. Also if you actually watch his interviews and the video, he constantly said he never had a knife and it was the kid he took it from. I don’t think you can claim self defense and LIAR about where you got the knife from. Lmao it was all on camera and his pulled out the knife.
I remember one of the videos when the kids were acting like a bunch of hooligans, overwhelming the old guy with their taunting. The guy reacted and just lost it, unfortunately.
Teens these days have zero respect and think everything is a game. The whole situation on both sides was handled all wrong. This is why you dont Fck with people / strangers.
You got to be nice to people. Otherwise... The fabric of reality will snap back. All you got to do is be nice to people. All you got to do is let people go their own way...
If he didn't lie, called the police immediately after the incident, kept his mouth shut until he had a lawyer, and made one strong case for self defense, he may have gotten much less, if any, years in prison.
@@102bullihe should of got 20 just for issac and 5-10 each other person especially AJ could you imagine laying there like that ? imagine that being your kid you think is just going out on the river w his friends for the day you trust your kid etc but they do kid stuff wanna listen to music n drink etc now your kid is dead trying to protect a girl who was punched in the face
Him walking up to the guys... okay, weird. But it is them who yelled at him, surrounded him and eventually even pushed him, made him fall into the water AND punched him. Honestly he was right to say it was in self defense for the first couple guys he got, but I believe he went after another two later on which obviously was not okay. But still, he lied too much and made a possibly good defense a terrible one with each word that he said.
@@VirtzusYou don't know that for sure. It wasn't on camera and she could have been screaming in his face and put her hands on him first. You have no idea
Those punks got their friend killed. They made up lies that he was looking to sexually assault little girls to justify their bullying. What they actually did was push a man to doing something terrible that many think was reasonable and justified. Just leave people alone and none of this happens. Your friend died because you were punks.
It looks to me like there has to be consequences on both sides, what did Nic do to provoke the verbal assault from those kids? Nothing. Also I'd feel threatened to if I was surrounded like that by a mob of kids, those kids were looking for trouble and they found it, Nic should not be the only one in trouble that day! Arguably I can't say I wouldn't have done the same thing, you poke a bear and bad things happen!!!
Nic thought the black Kid might have had his friends Phone hence coming over to him and touching his leg which kicked the whole thing off One kid died, 2 others are scared physically and mentally for life so theres that
The fact is that the reaction was not proportional. You approach a group of kids looking for a lost item. They then, unprovoked, begin shouting obscenities at you. You should break contact and walk away. They can call you what they want, all kinds of names, just turn your back and walk away. Instead, he engages a large group, becoming upset that they are name-calling. He continues to press the engagement when a separate uninvolved group spells it out: "hey dude, you should break contact and walk away". The attacker is unable to break contact and walk away due to pride or ego, or alcohol, or all 3. The attacker then becomes half-circled, with a clear exit behind him. He can still break contact and leave. Instead, for a 3rd time, he presses the engagement, but this time armed with a knife, and stabs 4 people. The kids were obviously being irate and obnoxious, however no clear crime occurred. Verbal slander and name-calling cannot legally be met with deadly force.
Regardless of what or who was right in this case, this is why you don't start altercations with strangers. You never know what anyone is capable of. Its not worth acting tough in front of your friends no matter who is at fault you can always walk away. This whole scenario was senseless and could have been avoided.
Always avoid deranged lunatics.
This is why I mind my business it's shit like this that scared me. ❤
@Gormless_Dave Exactly, how ridiculous would it be to get murdered in a Taco Bell drive thru. Drive off who cares. 😂🤷
Amen 🦅✝️🇺🇸 Midwest river tubing with friends, always alcohol involved. Easy for tensions to rise. No need for pointless confrontation amen
The old guy defended himself from these pos disrespectful new generation
Holy shit this was an intense video. And the fact EVERYTHING was recorded is insane. Fantastic video, guys.
crazy insane upload ...
convention
I can’t recall seeing so much carnage being done with a knife.
It’s not their video. It takes no effort to upload a video. Calm down.
Agreed
Imagine laying there dying and some dude yelling "he's done. He's done. It's over." I get that people are in shock but who tf does that
He was already dead
@@Pablo44528no he wasn't. He was conscious while they were carrying him out of the river. Did you even watch the video??
@@Pablo44528no he wasn't. He was still awake and talking until he was taken out of the river.
@@Pablo44528you don't speak like that around people who are dying, it's messed up. You comfort them.
@@bushspring did you not hear the narrator the guy died seconds after he was stabbed in the chest?
Dont start crap with others. You never know what can happen. Leave people alone and mind your own business.
Exactly
FAFO
Until they come at you!
Some times it’s a test for your patience and wisdom,the stabber tolerated it,should never have been carrying a knife
Agreed completely. But you can’t teach young people life lessons with words. Everyone seems to think they’re invincible until they’re in their 30s
After this, people still think it is unjustified when a police officer shoots someone who comes at them with a knife. Almost as if a knife is a deadly weapon
A knife IS a deadly weapon.
No they only think it’s unjustified if the person is black.
Is it unjustified. American police is the only one in the western world that does that. They're murderers.
Right. There's an incident where the poloce officer took too long to shoot and the guy with a knife got to him and stabbed him and he passed.
Officer: Do you have any weapons in this vehicle?
You: No.
Officer: Do you have a tire iron in the trunk?
You: Yes.
Officer: You are under arrest for lying to an officer of the law and being in possession of a deedly weapon.
You: 🙀😲😲😲
A round of applause for the editor of this video.
It’s traumatic to watch so Lord only knows how hard it must have been to sift through all of this. 💔
@@BionicRusty some people stomach things differently. And get distraught but what is casual.
You realise not everyone is as sensitive as you……🤦♂️
Especially with all the callers and different voices in the calls, all are color coded. I don't wanna know how long that took.
I think most people realize the traumatized screams and cries from people who just went for a swim and ended up trying to save dead/dying/disemboweled people is generally regarded as hard to hear or see. There are lots of things that people are sensitive about but seeing a crisis like this is certainly not one@@Mcrnightlife
Honestly, not saying old guy was right, but why would you antagonize a stranger?? You never know someone’s intentions. EVER.
FAFO
He asked the teens for nudes of their minor girlfriends, I mean I would get pissed too
@@bjjbrawler1He’s the one who was FA and sadly the kids FO! One paid with their life! An adult shouldn’t have been triggered by a group of kids calling him names! I doubt that was even the truth, as he lied about everything else. He was only concerned with evading prosecution and not having to pay consequences for his actions!
Someone with the man’s own group saw what happened and testified. The reason he saw it was because he followed the old man. He wanted to make sure he was okay because someone might think he was up to no good, like looking at children. That’s the same thing the group of young people said. I’m shocked the prosecution didn’t emphasize this statement during testimony.
The guy gutted them like he’d done it before.
He antagonized them. 100% fact
Unpopular opinion: there's more than one person who is responsible for this tragedy. Never bully people. Especially in groups and people you don't know. Sad but my sympathy is limited.
Reading all these comments - I've only read about three or four who support the drunken bullies.
@HannadayFLO you're right. I wrote it before reading the comments but assumed most of the viewers would defend them.
I completely agree with you.
the hyena filming who thought everything was SO funny turned in2 a screaming little female dog once things got real…social media has these kids thinking there’s no such thing as consequences…stop messing with people for clicks and likes
@@robjohnson3883 "social media has these kids thinking there’s no such thing as consequences" And yet you are watching this video on social media that teaches that there are consequences. What are you talking about.
More proof that society today has made people wayyyy too comfortable with disrespecting strangers.
Yea the old timer shoulda known better.
So the kids were being loud and were drinking. He approached them, he didn't leave, he drew a weapon, and then he attacked. He walked into a situation that wasn't needed and he stayed until they gave him a reason to 'defend' himself. Kids being loud and disrespectful is no reason for them to be murdered.
@@CassandraYwhat about the fact that the guy asked minors for pictures and then doubled down when confronted?? He just didn't like being called a p*do in public.
@@CassandraY
They were calling him a child molester, bullying tf out of him and doing so while filming thinking it will make it go viral, and it did, just not in the way they hoped.
They hoped to post the video before they fell asleep that night not feeling the least bit of guilt over blasting a man as a pedophile all over social fkn media. The worst invention in the history of our planet for ruining peoples lives
@@CassandraY He is simply saying you have no idea what goes on in a strangers head, don't antagonize people you don't know cause next thing you know you got a massacre right in front of you, the teenagers were yelling and talking shit as well as calling him a pedo, that's not something you really wanna say to someone you don't know, especially in person cause it can and will cost the lives of a few or many. He is not saying what that man did was right at all, I can't believe i have to explain this to you.
Mob mentality in this country is insane.
@robertwoodworth7819 thats not confined to any one country, its a human disposition.
From "Broooo" to "Oh Nooo" in 2 seconds flat.
FREE THAT MAN!
also that black racist fake claiming that he is a pedo and taking pics on little girls while he said ''take one for the culture'' like the white people are pedos...
the real instigator
@@DJJunkfoodJay fr kid recording was laughing and having the time of his life when they were pushing Nic into the water and jumping him. Couple seconds later, he was crying for his mom
Yeah, like the mob mentality of this comment section? Dude's a monster who wanted revenge 💯
This is the most detail I've seen/heard about this, thank you for sitting through this unsettling footage to help stitch it together for us
Saw this on a different channel about a month ago that covered it. All good detail and length
Just remembered Dr Insanity was the channel
Check out Matt orchards video of it as well. Best crime psychology channel out there
You could see the look in his eyes on the river when something changed for him. I do think he was scared, but that’s not how 99.9% of people react to fear. Those kids had no idea he would react that way.
why were they calling this complete stranger a pedo and child molestor? Because he had a snorkle looking for something?? Weird. Ok so the kids were being mean and bullying when the man was just looking for his phone to begin with. The whole situation is bad. The kids should've just kept floating on and left the man alone
Looking for trouble apparently
You can watch the trial, Nic was looking for his friends cell phone, looked like Nic may have thought the Black kid had it
and went over to him and touched his leg which set the whole thing off
Unfortunately that's what happens when you mix alcohol and immature kids.
@@ocskywatch1not true lol
They were just FLOATING but yet he decides to turn BACK around, tries to push them out of their tires, then punches an adult woman NOT apart of this group and then starts stabbing kids. He should have left at the 31:20 mark. Duh.
The guy who stabbed these kids was definitely in the wrong, but definitely in the beginning, watching how caring and helpful they were being. They honestly seemed like different people after watching the video of them harassing the guy who stabbed them definitely a prime example of why we should treat each other the way we wish to be treated And be kind and respectful. You never know what someone is willing or capable of doing just like this guy he had absolutely no history of anything and literally snapped.
Thoughts and prayers to all involved
Yes! Such a difference in their behaviour. Shame on them. Sad.
amen brother
Kids? That female has tattoos all over she looks mid 20s
To be honest from this whole situation it’s sad on both ends everybody gotta start teaching their kids to learn when to stop going after someone they don’t know. When he tried walking away they followed after him. Then people started touching him if you have people who are yelling and being rude in a threatening manner and someone you don’t know comes up to you and touches you while being hostile defend yourself point blank. He’s looked at as a killer but it’s really self defense. His life is gonna be spent in jail because these adults arent aware of how their kids act
Teach your kids not to bully and gang up on people.
I agree 💯
jury prosecutor and judge disagree ! any other bs you would like to share with us ?
@@DemosIoannouYou 100% completely missed his point.
@@DemosIoannouwell I’d bet Issac’s mom would’ve rather her son just move on and not put his hands on that dude.
Comprehension skills. Instead of making sure you're going to be offended, what about trying to understand the point made by the other party before yapping? @@DemosIoannou
With the way some people treat each other, these days, I'm surprised things like this don't happen more often.
People being petty and cruel or going straight to violence, is sad, and very wrong.
In all fairness, this isn't simply a case of just being mean or resorting to violence. Its the type of act that can only be done by the deranged.
America has just been slowly rolling down hill for the last 23 years and it won't be getting better any time soon.
The Midwest river is a tough beast. I have ridden many rivers in the Midwest and tbh.. lots of people drinking including myself.. and lots of tense moments. Shame on both parties😢✝️🦅🇺🇸
@@NeonEclipse910 de-ranged- de- monic , it is the work of the evil one but he has no power beyond this life all power in Eternal Life belongs to the Lord our God, our Father, the creator of all things, Jesus Christ, Yeshuha Hamashiach, the one True son of and God in the flesh.
Everyone has a camera these days, it’s a effective deterrent
The kids were wrong. But why did Nic's while group act like they had no idea why the police were there? That's bullshit.
They didn’t all see it
@elainekellogg6345 some definitely saw it and said nothing. They should have walked straight up to the police and said they saw a fight and that their friend was involved.
They were mostly separated from him based on what the video tells us.
Why did he lie so much? If I was a juror, that's what would have made me vote guilty. An innocent person has no reason to lie. But that's what he did from the moment the sheriff made contact all the way through his trial.
Yes the kids were wrong for calling him names… but correct me if I’m wrong but us grown ups should be able to regular our emotions so that words don’t turn into a situation as so. This nic guys is the real evil. Hope he doesn’t step foot out of jail.
The recordings from the teens smartphones shows how things really went ... they shouldn't have bullied a stranger in an already stressful situation instead of helping him. The world is sick and this is but a symptom.
Victim blaming
You must be a Trumper
@@DerRingGeneralthe young adults literally harassed and provoked the man.
They’re teenagers. They’re assholes sometimes who cares. Doesn’t mean you go on a stabbing rampage you psychopath
What?!? You're a sicko.
This is a prime example of why we should not defund the police but fund them even more
The young people group was standing around perplexed acting as if they were these innocent little lambs. The guy with the camera was the initial aggressor in the group also
And the grown man with a weapon didn't have to approach them and stay there until he had a reason to 'defend' himself. Just because some kid out there gets drunk and is loud is no reason for them to die.
“The camera guy was the initial aggressor in the group also”
Fixed it for you bozo.
@@im100percentg Kindness is free. You should try it sometime.
@@im100percentg Step fool
@@CassandraYhopefully they learned not to harass people.
This was crazy to watch. I’ve seen another video on this before but not the body cam footage of it. That’s amazing AJ lived.
omg he lived? I’m like 11 min in and he looks BAD BAD
Issac died.
@@boomnews815 to be fair, he was stabbed in the heart, AJ was disemboweled, you don't really survive that, and he did.
@@Whitey2716 haha thats where im at too
You're actually more likely to survive your bowels hanging out and being pushed back in and sewed up than you are to take a direct hit to the heart. Believe it or not...
Wow this video was intense. I applaud the efforts of the team that not only cut it together into a coherent story to present in short form on YT, but also to be able to endure the probable hours of screaming a crying of the victims while trying to cut the video segments. Thank you.
this actually to me made him look more guilty then what they had at trial tbh this was hard to watch but all could of been avoided by all RIP issac 💞🙏
They screwed around with old man and they found out the hard way. Why on earth would they call him a pedophile and circle around him like that. I have no sympathy for any of those teens.
apparently he had been grabbing at them bc his friend lost his phone and he immediately assumed they had stolen it. they didn't appreciate being touched and reacted with aggression, which made him obscenely angry. this is all him being a weirdo--no shot his friend wanted this to happen over a phone he briefly misplaced
@@thebestfonteverthat’s not what happened at all they jumped him he was trying to be cool with them at first
Urghhh what will they do without your sympathy 🥺. Firstly you are wrong nic started it all by coming up to them and staying when it was obvious he wasn’t wanted then punching the lady in the face. When you turn a verbal situation into a physical one is where I draw the line v
@@josephp.8778 Thats exactly what happened. Your just making stuff up. They shouted at him at a distance and then he made sure that he had his knife and then began approaching them clearly wanting to kill them because he is an insane individual.
the stabbed was the one who incited the entire incident and therefore killings trying to be vigilant against literally nothing , so if anything he was harassing others and ended up killing a teenager , you sitting here trying to justify it is what’s wrong with this country
Holy god…that video shows literally everything unfold…never escalate a situation or aggravate people, especially those you don’t know.
Yea the stabber shoulda walked away instead of instigating a fight and then murdering people.
@BushidoNinja im not defending the guy at all mind, but when you are surrounded by people shoving you this way and that, calling you a rapist and molester, what would you do? He probably felt threatened by them. How can you walk away when they continue? He isn't justified at all mind you, but it's a fight or flight response.
@@hugoplante6698This video doesn't show all the details. They teens started shoving the guy because he slapped a girl's glasses off her face.
@@hugoplante6698he clearly walked up to them again after being a couple feet from them in the start of the video. When you’re a grown ass man and a couple of teenagers are yelling stupid stuff YOU know aren’t true, why would you go up, check your knife in your pocket and escalate the situation? Not excusing the kids, their behavior is extremely annoying and childish but they are not developed yet and he had every chance to just walk away BEFORE he got pushed down and shoved. Also notice how he started physical contact, punched the girl etc etc. Again not excusing the kids but he started the physical altercation before it was just words being yelled by drunk dumb kids
escalate? they created the situation in the first place
Sadly, no lessons learned. Parents all think their kids were angels even tho they were acting like entitled little sh*ts on the day of the incident. The kids probably think they are all victims even after they agitated a stranger. And Nik lost his cool one time, and it cost him his freedom. Only hope is that thousands of people watching the vid learn something and avoid the same fate.
He started with them for no reason.
For real. Nothing learned nothing gained
Alcohol always wins
The kids started it and they also lied to the police.
@@GTSN38 As did Nic with the knife.
"Hey, have you guys seen a phone? My friend lost his and I'm looking for it. No? Okay"
Everyone lives, nobody goes to prison, no lifelong scars and trauma.
Exactly! Why did all those underage drunks start gathering around him calling him filthy names?! Why?!
@@HannadayFLO Because he punched a 24 year old lady in the face right in front of them.
Nah. They were going to instigate no matter what. Drunk teens in a group trying to act cool and edgy.
@@SoulExpired They were minding their own business when this old dude ran up on them.
@@boomnews815I know the old guy got convicted but I think that there's a level of culpability with the teenagers harassing him as well.
At the start of the video, those kids had all my sympathy. But towards the end, especially after seeing the video of how they ganged up on him, not so much. I’m not saying anyone deserves to die like that, but the reality is, they created that situation for themselves. All they had to do was be kind, respectful and leave the guy alone.
I felt exactly the same - was crying watching the start but when I seen their smartphones taunting the line man all ganging up all around him while he was just trying to find his friends phone - my tears dried up.
He could walked away but he stayed and then stabbed innocent people other than the kids just bc they were close to him 90 % his fault
They still have my sympathy. Nobody deserves to be stabbed and gutted out. He didn't have to respond like that. Victims aren't perfect but that doesn't mean that what happened is any less horrific.
After they ganged up on HIM??? He attacked them FIRST physically at the 31:20, when he could have kept walking back to his group but he turns around and runs toward them, attacks them, they scatter, then he punches a random ADULT woman & then starts stabbing. How is not obvious?!!! Don't answer.
@@beezeeznutzand they didn’t need to antagonize the situation, 6 people deep on one lone man?? Tell me where that’s fair?? Why should he have had to stand down? No one wants to hold those kids responsible for their terrible behavior. That’s crazy to me.
Young people today don’t understand the consequences of their actions. This is consequences of said action. You don’t get to bully people because you think you are funny and it’s not funny to call someone a pedophile or they’re looking for something it was a miscommunication on everyone’s part, but those kids were looking to fuck with somebody and they found out.
Jfc. Justifying murder of children.....what's wrong with you??
Well stated
@@mpettway6982there’s always someone crazier out there this could of completely been avoided if they never said anything but it’s still murder
@@mpettway6982 Planned Parenthood does it everyday, what's the issue?
Murder is never the awnser to getting your feelings hurt. Jfc do you support the columbine shooters too. They were ‘bullied’.
I kinda understand why the man felt threatened but at the same time, just walk away.
He was one the that ran back to the group of kids
Turn your back on an angry mob in water 🙄
Those kids were begging it to be honest just leave people alone. They were just pushing him to snap. Imagine he had a gun. Playing with their lives, from the joyfullness of making fun of someone to fear of what transpired.
Just be nice and don’t push people’s button.
AJ should have walked away and then he wouldn't have a dussy in his chest
Easy to say but if you've got 4-5 people attacking you...walking away may not be an option. Add to that, the terrain they were in...shallow water and heavy vegetation? Hard place to run away with all the teenagers on the shore. I've been in similar situations as both a civilian and a deputy, in most of the cases...I was lucky enough to be armed most of times. Fortunately, I didn't have to seriously hurt anyone but I do understand the fear. Mob mentality, especially with drunk teenagers, is a very dangerous thing.
I also think there's a bit of guilt on the group of teens that it escalated this badly. They called him multiple bad names (as he was walking away first), pushed him, cornered him. If a guy is aggressive, (maybe drunk), it surely makes him flip and "see red"... As sad and tragic as it is.
I was trying to find a way to word this exact same comment, but was failing to do it as eloquently at 3am haha.
@@Rgmekanic It took me a while even in daytime :D Not trying to justify anything but it def should be noted
i was on the apple river
i watched the entire court case ...
he started it not the teens ...
you are misinformed ...
@@sunnystormy4973 I saw the videos the teens took. Don't tell me you wouldn't get mad if someone called you a p*do or r*pist without reason. As I said, it does in no way justify his reaction but should be noted.
@@sunnystormy4973I watched the trial as well and the guy was snorkeling for a phone, the teens started with him
Unfortunate situation but calling a random person a pedo and rapist can be considered fighting words meaning the victim's where not innocent and in my view they escalated the situation 100%
They were far from innocent. They harrassed, assaulted, antagonized, and threatened. The black kid had to be removed from the trial due to his inconsistencies where they proved he lied numerous times. The girl stabbed was in his face. They were all underaged drinking. The story is absolutely insane.
@@buyaj7693 notice how you said “fighting words” and not “stab people words”. Just cus someone is saying something that pisses you off doesn’t mean you get to walk up to them and murder them.
@@reellifeoutdoors2905 I agree with you 100%. The kinda had it coming to them. I watched this whole thing over this past summer and remember a part of the video when they were holding the guys face down in the water. Just absolutely rotten kids!
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@@reellifeoutdoors2905 I agree with you 100%. The kinda had it coming. I watched this whole thing over this past summer and remember a part of the video when they were holding the guys face down in the water. Just absolutely rotten kids!
They bullied the wrong man and found out, these kids learned a life long lesson to be kind to others.
He approached them first and hit them first. Boomers need a reality check
That it actually insane to say. Wrong or not those people didn’t deserve to be attacked.
@@premiumtrash9562 no this is not insane to say.
@@premiumtrash9562 they did, actually. you provoke an unhinged person with a weapon, you get what you asked for. consequences are consequences
@@premiumtrash9562 the old guy didn't deserve to be attacked either. And it would be insane to say these kids didn't learn a lesson from this.
This video should be shown in all schools. Similar to the drunk driving videos they show.
This is what is meant by FAFO
That honestly isnt a bad idea. I believe they should have a mandatory class that teaches this stuff kind of like when we had home economics.
Itd be nice for kids to learn how to make a resume and cover letter, deescalation of situations, the downside to social media, etc.
Yes
This has no place in the public school system. Teach your children to be respectful and cautious of strangers.
Yeah he found out he will die in prison
Old man started it completely suggest going to watch it then getting back to us , your a terrible person and not tough at all 😂
Let this be a lesson to young people to respect people. Something that's in SHORT supply in the western world. A little bit of respect would have went a LONG way.
Respect must be earned. The accused and convicted showed zero respect towards the young adults that asked him to go away and leave them alone.
He is where he belongs.
@@ToLoveIsToLive89so is the victim!
if only the police didn’t off the old man on the spot
Respecting a man child that resorted to murder and has no respect. Nothing in this video puts the older ego fragile generation in good light.
@malinko35. Exactly,those young bullies might think twice before harassing and defaming someone they don't even know.Oh well,one less bully on the earth.I hope that the poor old guy is doing okay.
I feel like there’s some level of guilt on the teens too, but yeah he still shouldn’t have killed them (duh). Just an awful situation and I’m sure the teens will never mock another person like that either. Glad AJ made it
uh, duh. they killed their friends....
@@XeverSeventeens were still dumb af. Criminals don’t care about your amendments. I figured that out when I was like, 12
More than a little, they felt real confident in harassing a stranger in a group.
The kids were underage drinking with adults. Any other case and they would have been arrested, it's ironic the kids are calling the guy a PDF File but they are the ones with minors.
@@toast1012no they didn't they were defending each other from some dude that approached them
These kids bullied him to a point where he really must've felt in fear for his life. Doesn't excuse what he did, but I don't believe for one second that he ever said he was "looking for little girls." This was totally avoidable if not for the bullies. Won't watch to the end because I don't believe justice was served to either side. 😠
They literally followed him while he was wading away, granted because it's downstream, but they followed and antagonized. Saying the old guy had every opportunity to leave is projection.
Exactly. I have followed this case since it happened and these kids aren’t innocent whatsoever. They antagonized and harassed this man and expected him to not do anything? They clearly weren’t raised right
Are you watching the same video as the rest of us? Or are you just seeing it how you want? Because they clearly yelled at him to leave over and over and he stood there like an idget
These punk kids FAFO. I'm not defending Nic, he needs to go to jail, but this is the end result of a whole generation who have absolutely no respect for themselves or anyone else.
A lost generation.
Don’t forget the need to pull out those cameras to go viral
You realize that the previous generation raised the so called “lost generation” right?
Are you serious? They were shouting and being ridiculous but Nic could have walked away. They were all in their tubes until he leapt at one of them. Even when they were surrounding him, they were laughing and shouting and being stupid, but they did not touch him, he could still have walked away. You saw in the video that Nic made the decision to get his knife out and start stabbing. He was the only one with a knife.
It's not a generational fault. If it is, that's on their parents. Kids have been doing dumb stuff and picking fights since the beginning of time it's just on video now
It's a generational problem but not from us, The old guy literally left the entire area and went to his car to get a knife BEFORE coming back again to argue with them the second time. After which he was caught lying and hiding the murder weapon.
You old idiots have fucked our planet to death and can't take any accountability for anything. The only contribution you've given us is teaching the younger generations how to scam and take advantage of every law/inch you guys can get. Stop trying to blame millennials for all of the problems YOUR generation created.
"To say its their fault is despicable!"
Well, calling someone a rapist and pedo for asking if someone found a phone is despicable. Its almost as if thsse teens escalated a normal encounter into a verbally violent one, then it got physical, they figured their numbers would save them and it didnt. These kids are 100% responsible for provoking the attack. No doubt in my mind.
I agree! That crowd surrounded and tormented that man.
They also pushing him down and attacked him while he was down.
They F*cked around... and they found out... now multiple lives are ruined because there was absolutely zero decency on a fun river day
You must be deaf all I hear is a bunch of teens telling him to get away from them. So loudly in fact that another group of people came to help them and tried to deescalate the situation by also telling him to walk away. He chose to fight a large group of people instead of fleeing. Idk about you but if I am truly scared for my life against that many people I would have ran away, not towards the threat
@@wowplayer160Did his intestines fall out? Did it put a hole in his heart?
Imagine calling 911 and hearing "Your call is very important to use so please stay on the line and your call will be answered by the next available representative. Your approximate wait time is 45 minutes."
Dystopian
In all fairness, if 911 is suddenly overwhelmed with calls, they are all likely for the same incident, so help is on the way.
It probably will become more common
You just don't get an attorney assigned to you. Maranda states "If you can't afford an attorney..." The income level for not being able to afford an attorney is low. If this guy has multiple degrees he most likely has a job that puts him well above the free level
What happens typically is your call gets forwarded to the next available dispatcher in the next nearest county
@@davidinwashington imagine someones having a heart attack or a stroke 2 blocks away and cant contact 911 for an ambulance
Holy crap, thank you so much to all the cops and bystanders helping; this video was absolutely insane, and I would have been frozen in fear unable to do anything…
I’m 8 and a half minutes in and tearing up at the extensive footage of these first responders and civilians so desperately trying to save lives. I feel for anyone who was traumatized by this event.
Remember this video next time you decide to get involved in an alcohol fueled fight. Walk away. Few seconds can equal life in prison
@@charlesvenangojr.3513 This is a case of rowdy drunk teenagers coming across a total angry psychopath
I'm sure everybody thats been drunk even remembers being drunk bud. Pipe down.
@im100percentg You completely have no reading comprehension skills
don't start fights, would be better advice
I watched the whole trial, twice. It wasn't fair and his sentence was too high. He will die in prison. Those teens were disgusting. They lied on the stand. Their prior bad acts and continuation of engaging in crimes and underage drinking post incident wasn't addressed. They learned nothing and still have no respect for older people. They limited all good info and character witnesses about Nic. They didn't go into his upbringing. Those teens caused that situation.
You Are Correct !
@@Georgia-i8k BLM got his friend killed for the culture !!!
He approached them and began putting his hands on them in his stuff while poorly explaining himself. There drunk kids I agree they didnt respond the best but he should have walked away. He only stayed to accuse them of stealing. Then he pulled out his knife when the only one touching him was a girl from a different group. He wanted to stab someone.
I watched the entire trial too, he was the aggressor and out of control.
Both sides lied. Nic claimed self defense and lied he grabbed the KIDS knife but video clearly show it was his knife. Kind of lose your self defense claim when you lie about where the weapon came from. So ya once he lost that then it’s just straight murder because you lost your temper
Play stupid games win stupid prizes 🤷♀️ Teens got a rude awakening.
I’ve seen MANY stories of this case but this video goes beyond and above anything I’ve seen. You guys got it ALL!!! Thank you for this informative video.
Lesson learned. Stop provoking people.
Lesson learned. Don't approach drunk kids that aren't your own in a public and then try to claim self defense when you never tried to leave.
@@CassandraY everyone is in the wrong here, but nothing justifies stabbing people to death
@@AKmumu I agree. No one involved was in the right, but the grown man was clearly in the wrong.
These kids absolutely caused this problem. I never once acted like this growing up. I never will. He was looking for a phone in what sounds like a new country and was treated this way.
I interact with children all the time that will get pure joy out of making your life living hell then the moment they face consequences act like total victims. Normally I would have just left and called the cops on the kids, but given how they assaulted him first, I can’t pretend like I wouldn’t have done the same thing.
I hope the kids who made it out got a very clear memory of what happens when you assault and gang up on a grown stranger with a weapon.
Also, based on the video, those girls are absolutely kidding themselves if they think anyone would want to creep on them.
Whenever I'm outside, and I see other people, I always try my best to avoid them. I never talk to anyone. And this is why.
i love when people don't realize what someone is able to do then they find out the hard way .. good way to learn to be humble if your still alive
Glad that murderer was found guilty and sentenced.
@@haydn-db8zok bud
Wow just an evil comment to make. Yes the kids used words… atleast w words you can wake up the next day… glad this lunatic is jailed and hope he never steps foot outside of it too.
@@Gangai263 using words to hurt someone’s mentality is no different than using hands to hurt someone physically. Cowards hide behind words like they aren’t meaningful.
Kinda sick of people saying “it was only words”
- clearly wasn’t just words in this case so why act like that’s all they did? I’m Not on his side or theirs but why make things up that don’t fit the story,
@@Gangai263 I agree with you. Seriously, what the hell are these comments. A grown ass man can't walk away from kids calling him names? I've seen better behaviour from preteens. He went back to an escalating situation. Even if a fight broke out, a stable person wouldn't stab at obvious teens. He even admitted that he didn't think they were old enough to be drinking. All these pathetic ass comments "FAFO" ok maybe for getting in a tussle but slashing intestines out of a body? Stabbing someone so hard to break ribs and enter his heart? Piece of shit lunatic.
Unfortunitly its the classic f around and find out harrassing the wrong person.
the stabbed was the one who incited the entire incident and therefore killings trying to be vigilant against literally nothing , so if anything he was harassing others and ended up killing a teenager , you sitting here trying to justify it is what’s wrong with this country
@@JayEstArcanusyou probably defended all the BLM saints too, f outta here
Yea the stabber found out what prison is like for starting a fight with kids and murdering them.
bait used to be believable
And your comment is a classic example of victim blaming, it doesn’t matter what these people said they didn’t deserve to be stabbed.
There are some outright lies in those 911 calls. The individual was not harassing anyone. The teens were harasding him calling him a pedophile, saying he was hunting children, snd finally attacked him hitting him and pushing his head underwater when he would not follow their orders. He was wrong snd is punished but there is enough blame to go around that river that day. Bullying a man is why this happened. Unfortunately he was unlike their prior victims.
Multiple witnesses said he started it.
yes he was unlike the prior "bullying" victims because he was an evil man with a knife and no regard for human life. That was not self defense that was an excuse to kill and do harm. If he truly felt he was in danger why would he not just leave hmm
Lmao I believe the witnesses. Who said they're lying? Most people wouldn't say that in that situation especially after witnessing a murder.
I watched the trial. I also saw the confrontation videos. The kids were absolutely not innocent. Accusing him of being a PDF file, hitting him and pushing him under water when he was turned away. Of course, he deserved being punished to some degree, but again, these kids were also drunk and made poor choices that sadly resulted in the death of their friend.
@@neurologylove2135 true! those dumb kids shouldn't have made the decision to get brutally stabbed and get their friend murdered. gfr lmao literal teenagers being blamed for a crazy 50 year old man on an ego trip. HE. LITERALLY. WALKS. BACK. UP. TO. THEM. Why is he even interacting with them to begin with? Because he was not mentally stable!
teenagers make every single situation worse.
Not true. They aren’t perfect, but with a decent group of kids, being the chaperoning parent is a challenge worth taking on.
Parents 100% to blame on these nasty undisciplined teens
@@zachburke1Not entirely, eventually they’re old and mature enough to make their own decisions. They looked more like college students then high schoolers and college students arguably act dumber than high schoolers and yet they’re mature enough to know how to act like decent people and choose not to
Except porn, there's lots of movies where a few teens make it significantly better!
The old man with the knife made it worse.
Drunk kids acting like idiots what did you expect. You can listen to the kids having a grand old time.
Agreed. They pushed the old man around, called him a pedo when he was clearly looking for something (a friend’s phone) in the water. The actions of miu were egregious / the threat of a knife alone likely would have stopped the assault, but that said, this all transpired because of the vicious nonsense those boys were spewing. He wasn’t trying to “separate” their tubes!?? He was looking for a lost phone
I was a dumb young man once and had some rowdy friends that acted like these kids. Middle of a bar yelling and pointing at some random dude they didnt like and getting people to harass them out. One time the guy had friends and there was a huge fight, my former friend got knocked out and we all left. My old friend group was all saying it was the other groups fault and being dramatic asf about it despite being the instigators.
There were always girls present and everyone just escalated and got all hyped up and even when i was drunk i thought they were acting like dumb hyenas.
Im glad there wasnt a guy like this when we were stupid assholes. That was the only real fight ive been in and I now have better friends that dont start shit with random people.
Quite literally kids, underaged drinking.
Sounds like the kids learnt a life lesson thinking numbers are the only thing that counts when you mess with someone
Stop Typing. He attacked them FIRST physically at the 31:20, when he could have kept walking back to his group but he turns around and runs toward them, attacks them, they scatter, then he punches a random ADULT woman & then starts stabbing.
@@Deelifull That's when you call 911, what they did after that is what you do when you want to gamble with your life. They aren't blameless, just like the murderer isn't innocent. The moment he hit the lady, they back off and dial 911, they did the exact opposite of that and escalated it beyond the point of no return because they thought numbers would protect them.
Both things can be true.
@@Deelifull just leave people alone and you won’t get stabbed.
@@richardcampbell8685yea he came up and attacked the teens.. people get stabbed all the time for absolutely nothing. You need to maybe look more into what you're saying cause you sound very ignorant.
God forbid they say anything to someone harassing them
35:12 bro, why are you turning the camera on your own face like you're a react streamer?
Too dumb. Doesn’t even know if this is real. This guy instigated this.
Cause they're dumb and grew up with nothing but constant internet and cell phone
gotta get those likes, bro
Kid said "our lives are over" because they knew exactly they were the ones that started this.
Everyone in this situation was just brain-less.
This is why I mind my business nowadays you never know how crazy ppl are this could of easily been avoided.
It could not have, he literally started attacking the teens. Are you blind or dumb?
This whole situation... Wow. Knives are as deadly as a gun... This is why cops wont let someone with a knife near them.
“Is this real?” They really thought they’d never encounter someone who would react in such an extreme fashion. This should never have happened but is an extreme case of FAFO. Bet the rest never shout abuse at a random again.
@@JohnDoe-lx3dt he attacked them first. Jesus no wonder trump was elected
A part from the fact that he should never tried to kill those kids. This is the perfect example of 'fucking around and finding out' of the history.
Yeah, awful situation all around, it was so senseless
Parents, teach your children better! Also, if they can’t be trusted to not drink alcohol and harass people, then YOU NEED TO SUPERVISE THEM AT ALL TIMES! This situation is partly your fault!
This is a ridiculous statement,,
@@lillymurray8408
Yep.
@lillymurray8408 One child would still be alive had those children not been drinking alcohol. Have you watched the full video, where several of the teens were taunting the old man? Those brats started the entire thing. It was disgusting what was coming out of their mouths. I don’t condone what the old guy did. But I do understand his fears. And I don’t get why you don’t think parents need to be held accountable for their children’s behavior outside the home? Or are you just miffed that I have an opinion that differs from yours?
I must say I find it weird that the US class, what most countries class as young adults, as kids. I am not trying to excuse what happened but that man was surrounded by a group shouting and being quite threatening.
They do that when they want to excuse the actions of someone.
The man never needed to approach them. I'm not excusing the kids at all, but this was a situation that did not need to be escalated into murder. He had ever chance to walk away, but he chose to attack them.
They are litterally yelling get away from us. So loudly that another group came to also tell him to get away from them. At some point you got to say hmm maybe it’s me that’s the problem and not litterally everyone else who witnessed it.
@@Poppopoff He approached them and then refused to leave. Of course the kids were going to push him away. It's was all so pointless!
The man really comes off as someone that was looking for a fight.
@@CassandraY Maybe not looking for a fight but was insulted/degraded and felt he had to uphold some sort of "honor" maybe. You're right, completely pointless at the end, regardless
Wow, so a group of guys shouldn't just start yelling at a man and calling him a pedo? I am shocked.
So sad to watch the Nicolae Miu apologists try and litigate this all over again.
Legally what is wrong w that ? Mfs like you are the real problem do you even know the context of it ? Nic the murder thought the teens had his friends phone and the boys were trolling him. He later escalated the situation by punching a lady and then escalated it further by stabbing people.
@@haydn-db8zCry me a river. (Pun intended)
@haydn-db8z you have a right to defend yourself
I think the basic spark plug of this entire event, that seems to have been overlooked as to motivation, was that Nic ASSUMED these kids had found his friend's cell phone and were hiding it from him...thats why he started overturning the tubes initially looking for it....maybe thats where the 'child molestor' chanting originated from and the whole thing escalated...but i think the 'lost cell phone' was the defining moment that started all the mayhem to begin with...crazy story all the way around~
The guy who lost the phone told Nic not to bother looking for it because it was insured. But the phone was found that evening. The teens never had it.
like me you must have watched the trial few know that backstory
@@boomnews815 he may have told him later at some point but im sure thats why Nic had the snorkel as he approached the group of teens, is all im saying~
@ocskywatch1 I did, at first I was on Nic's side but once the trial started I realized he was the aggressor.
Thank you for bringing it back to this because the comments keep projecting their stories onto the case. Like what are the facts??? Did the phone ever turn up with that group? Why was he over there? Did anyone verify that? Was the pedo thing ignorance or true?
People wanna feel bad for him for being bullied and stuff… I wanna see the context. Awful situation
What this guy did is wrong, but anyone not putting blame on those kids is also at fault. Those kids antagonized this guy thinking it was funny because they never had consequences. Well unfortunately they found consequences the bad way.
I go back and forth on this. The kids were flat out mean and ultimately set this event in motion. It was wrong. I remember being a teenager and how we acted in groups. The group fuels itself no matter the behavior, but especially bad behavior. On the other hand, this guy is a whole ass adult. He should be able to handle some kids yelling baseless insults at him no matter what they were saying. At the end of the day a grown man killed a CHILD over insults that he knew were not true. He’s a killer.
The man snapped but all these fools and the one that hit him are all guilty of fuckery...it's insane all of it.
you’re absolutely right.
According to the description of the video the suspect punched a girl first, before he was punched.
looks like they got a reality check from that old dude
These young kids were the ones who started it .. What do they expect just sad sad sad people lost their life for some nonsense
Started what? You act like stabbing people is an appropriate reaction to some guy not leaving when he has repeatedly been told to leave 🤡
Seen the whole video , old man literally ran after then started it , then hit a female in the face 😂. They in no way started it
Whether it’s God, fate, whatever, it’s crazy two of the other tubers nearby were a nurse and an EMT.
Yeah definitely not god, nor fate really.
@@skankhunt3624let ppl believe in what they want to believe in
Accussing someone of being a a pedophile or child molester or sexual assalter is a violent accusation
Your argument isn’t an attempt to excuse him slashing and killing people, but rather an attempt to highlight that the people who were harmed very complicit to the events that unfolded. Two things can be true at once, they participated and arguably augmented the crime committed against them. Had they just left the dude alone and stopped insulting him, maybe he wouldn’t have slashed them. Someone died because of their behavior. Rest in peace Isaac, very unfortunate.
*accuser and assaulter
LOL
LMFAO. ever heard of "no i'm not" then walking away
@@smidgenHe "should have walked away," but these accusations put him in danger of being a victim of a violent attack himself, you know that.
I remember watching this on Law and Crime and thinking that Nick wouldn’t be found guilty. It’s still such a hard case for me - he shouldn’t of lied right away, and ditched the knife if it was truly him defending himself, but then I get freaking tf out in that moment.
This new generation is so doomed. They think everything is virtual and without consequence. Ignorance and youth go hand in hand, but this new breed is so connected with phones that they fail to comprehend the severity of near and present dangers. They poked and prodded this stranger into creating a nightmare scenerio. This is shameful behavior for all involved, old and young. Its such a damn shame.
ALMOST as shameful as passing judgement with such broad brush strokes as yours lol
@@lilpenguin092 He's absolutely right though!
Someone got killed and idiots are trying to blame the "new generation"
true. they're all zombies. generally they only attend to their smartphones and when looking up they cant cope with reality. i live in a big city and see it permanently. nearly everyone. zombies. they don't event know they are tho.
Nah I’m not convinced that it’s a generation thing, just geography. Wisconsin is a dumpster fire all around.
This guy was attacked by a mob of angry kids and strangers. He defended himself. The fact he was found guilty is ridiculous! These kids started everything and attacked him! FAFO!
6:46 lol if anything is a good sign having humor still is one
Agreed. I love AJ's response to that question and I'm so glad he survived. It breaks my heart that this happened to everyone involved.
The question had me super confused but I busted out laughing when he responded lmao
@@the_repugnant_gamerand he wasn’t wrong lmao, biden did jack shit
You never know when someone might snap.! Therefore just leave people alone. Walk away, don’t instigate confrontation. This was totally avoidable if teens/young adults had kept their mouths shut and went about their business having fun.! Instead they provoke, instigate violence and create their own problems.!!! Sad world we live in these days. Very sad.!!!
I've seen and read about this case. The man was assaulted multiple times and every person he stabbed literally had a hand on him and he never lunged or even took a single step. They were in the process of assaulting him. That should have been considered when they charged him. Not defending his actions but there are two sides to this story. He deserved the charges he got because he did go back near the group but he didn't deserve the sentence. In fact I cannot understand how so many of those vile teens didn't get charged with assaulting him.
Also he never stabbed one of them more than once. He wasnt looking to kill he was just trying to end defend his life
@@Gtasplayerexactly
I’m glad SOMEONE in this comment section knows the details. I’ve been following it since the beginning. There are far too many people that say Nik started it and was the aggressor which is not true whatsoever
Thanks again for the incredible editing and subtitles guys! Helps out quite a bit and it doesn't go underappreciated!
The guy that recorded the stabbing is the main instigator and needs to be charged as well….
Am i the only one with 0 remorse for AJ and even less for his friends pretending to not understand why it happened?
Thats such moral decay.
Great job putting this video together, such a hectic scene and you guys covered it so well.
If I found myself surrounded by an increasing number of intoxicated people accusing me of being a CP, I’d absolutely fear for my life. It’s well-known that most people have an immediate and often violent reaction to CPs and for understandable reasons. Among a drunk crowd, these accusations, whether out of a twisted sense of humor or a misunderstanding, can quickly morph into an absolute fact. Add some water to the situation, and hell no. I want to say I'd run instead, but in that situation, who knows..
Anyways, this is precisely why, after a self-defense situation, you should never answer questions without legal counsel. We’ve all experienced moments where we misinterpreted events in the heat of the moment only to later realize our initial memories were far from what really happened. No matter how much you want to cooperate, the safest course of action is to remain calm and silent, and wait for an attorney.
They didn't surrounded him, only after he punched a girl in a face. Before that he was told many times to walk away. It seems the most people are not grasping content of such a long videos correctly
Stop saying his guts are everywhere. You think that’s the last thing he wants to hear before he dies .
Proof that taunting and immaturity can lead to a life sentence!
Every action has a reaction. I will never condone what happened however this is a direct result of today's society and people not used to having to deal with real reactions or being held accountable for their words, ridicule, or approach. This is especially true in our youth and you can hear it in their voices laughing until reality hit.😮 Yes, he could have walked away. However, there is also a lot of responsibility and blame to be put onto the "victim" party. People joke around with the F around and find out meme thinking they are tough. Well, this is the reality version of that. Sad for all involved and let it be a lesson. You dont know people or their capabilities and be respectful.
100% People are use to running their yaps and not having to deal with the consequences of their actions.
Kinda hard to walk away when you’re surrounded and being punched and pushed into water
@elainekellogg6345 Nike was 100. Those kids' parents failed to raise good kids.
I feel like I get what you're trying to say but you're not saying it, these children saying crazy shit does not give them any responsibility for being stabbed. Okay Boomer?!
@@mollychamberlain804 Nice try but you failed. They weren't just saying 'crazy shit' but rather surrounding and cornering ONE man... A whole mob of hostile, yelling, drunk people surrounding him...yes, they do need to take some responsibility sweetheart, and so do you mili. Maybe put down your phone for a few minutes and start thinking.
Oh well they shouldn’t have been bullying that old man ….they attacked him 1st as well…there’s no rules that says how to defend yourself….I don’t feel bad at all this new generation is disrespectful and has no respect for anyone and never takes accountability for their actions …which could’ve been avoided if they never messed with him in the 1st place …bet they won’t bully no one again 😂
He actually attacked first . Is everyone in the comment section blind
@@Sleepingcoffee979it's crazy how many people are justifying murder.......
@@Sleepingcoffee979 this video leaves out a lot of available video out there. It appears whoever put this video together has a very strong bias as the available but missing video parts all put the kids in a very very very bad light. I was honestly surprised this guy was convicted.
@gofastER he still attached first. I've seen the orginal video
I hear what your saying and agree with most of it, especially the part about the lack of respect and accountability found in todays youth. A kid was killed. That's a bridge too far for me. The others whoever, learned a valuable lesson that a have a feeling they'll carry with them for the rest of their lives.
Sooo... the news portrayed this VERY DIFFERENT. That man was being attacked by a bunch of kids! Self-Defense is not a crime.
This wasn't self-defense
Yep, I remember when this happened.
Except it wasn’t self defense….it was his knife he brought out and the way he stabbed all the kills was not in self defense. There’s a completely different stance in how you hold and cut with a knife with intent kill and with self defense…please educate yourself. Both parties are in the wrong but Russian man went over the edge. Went full on classic Russian. Also if you actually watch his interviews and the video, he constantly said he never had a knife and it was the kid he took it from. I don’t think you can claim self defense and LIAR about where you got the knife from. Lmao it was all on camera and his pulled out the knife.
I remember one of the videos when the kids were acting like a bunch of hooligans, overwhelming the old guy with their taunting. The guy reacted and just lost it, unfortunately.
@@kjax139 I guess we'll have to disagree.
One man being bullied by two large groups of ppl. I was hoping he got acquitted.
They know not to start shit with ppl now.
Teens these days have zero respect and think everything is a game. The whole situation on both sides was handled all wrong. This is why you dont Fck with people / strangers.
It's not "these days" children have been reckless since the beginning of time, they don't have the luxury of experience
Someone who resorts to stabbing people over words doesn't warrant any respect and why people make fun of their elders now, their emotional unstable.
You got to be nice to people.
Otherwise... The fabric of reality will snap back.
All you got to do is be nice to people.
All you got to do is let people go their own way...
Thats an insane thing to say, clearly you’ve been sheltered
@@than9025you must've been severely traumatized if you think being kind is bad advice
being nice will get you killed or worse... be kind not nice
@@than9025 dont punch old men in the water. they will end you, literally. watch the video of this happening. not the aftermath.
Found em! Found the single mother raised lib!
If he didn't lie, called the police immediately after the incident, kept his mouth shut until he had a lawyer, and made one strong case for self defense, he may have gotten much less, if any, years in prison.
I have the same feelings. Innocent people don't have to lie. But from the beginning he lied and lied a lot.
A very hard lesson learned by these kids...i bet they'd think twice before ganging up on a drunk adult.
I believe that man should of never been convicted I believe the kids were the harassers
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how? they were yelling and he was the first one to make physical contact with them and pull out a weapon
Being called names and getting told to leave does not equate stabbing 5 people. He definitely deserves jail, and the kids are dumb.
@@ProLSPDFRMan ok....but you would give him 20 years.......i wouldn`t, that`s not ok
@@102bullihe should of got 20 just for issac and 5-10 each other person especially AJ could you imagine laying there like that ? imagine that being your kid you think is just going out on the river w his friends for the day you trust your kid etc but they do kid stuff wanna listen to music n drink etc now your kid is dead trying to protect a girl who was punched in the face
They lost their lives “for the culture”
Him walking up to the guys... okay, weird. But it is them who yelled at him, surrounded him and eventually even pushed him, made him fall into the water AND punched him. Honestly he was right to say it was in self defense for the first couple guys he got, but I believe he went after another two later on which obviously was not okay. But still, he lied too much and made a possibly good defense a terrible one with each word that he said.
Watch again - 33:08. He only got pushed once he punched the woman trying to break up the confrontation.
@@Virtzus after couple of swings he did that again
@Virtzus these clowns can't even see that basic
@@VirtzusYou don't know that for sure. It wasn't on camera and she could have been screaming in his face and put her hands on him first. You have no idea
@@Virtzus exactly like how tf are people even siding w this guy. This is lunatic behaviour. Glad this pos is behind bars.
Those punks got their friend killed. They made up lies that he was looking to sexually assault little girls to justify their bullying. What they actually did was push a man to doing something terrible that many think was reasonable and justified. Just leave people alone and none of this happens. Your friend died because you were punks.
im sure they'll think twice before doing that again
Don’t ever bully anyone, even if you have numbers.
This is what hapens when bullies push over a person to the edge.
It looks to me like there has to be consequences on both sides, what did Nic do to provoke the verbal assault from those kids? Nothing. Also I'd feel threatened to if I was surrounded like that by a mob of kids, those kids were looking for trouble and they found it, Nic should not be the only one in trouble that day! Arguably I can't say I wouldn't have done the same thing, you poke a bear and bad things happen!!!
Yea and why the fuck were they calling him a pedophile for? They never even mentioned why they did it
Nic thought the black Kid might have had his friends Phone hence coming over to him and touching his leg which kicked the whole thing off
One kid died, 2 others are scared physically and mentally for life so theres that
The fact is that the reaction was not proportional. You approach a group of kids looking for a lost item. They then, unprovoked, begin shouting obscenities at you. You should break contact and walk away. They can call you what they want, all kinds of names, just turn your back and walk away. Instead, he engages a large group, becoming upset that they are name-calling. He continues to press the engagement when a separate uninvolved group spells it out: "hey dude, you should break contact and walk away". The attacker is unable to break contact and walk away due to pride or ego, or alcohol, or all 3.
The attacker then becomes half-circled, with a clear exit behind him. He can still break contact and leave. Instead, for a 3rd time, he presses the engagement, but this time armed with a knife, and stabs 4 people. The kids were obviously being irate and obnoxious, however no clear crime occurred. Verbal slander and name-calling cannot legally be met with deadly force.
12:18 all this chaos and homie got a PH shirt on 😂😭
im sayin 😂 not to laugh onna vid like this but cmon bruh 🤦🏾♂️
@@mauri5588caught me off guard I had to rewind 💀
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