An Artist Worth $60M Exposes Music Industry Secrets
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On a clip about greed you flaunt you greed, classy
What is the original podcast called?
Despite all my rage I'm still just a rat in a cage.
🤣🤣
Pretty much
Still one of my favorite songs.
-what a great lyric
Stop! 😆😆...just stop!
Music industry is a dope game with lawyers and attorneys
It's a satanic game
Dope game aint even like that.
It's the pimp game on a bigger level.
@@xahsinor4364 Sounds like marriage
@@joshnorton498 Exactly what it is....PIMP GAME!!! SAD TOO!!
Most of our favorite artists are basically slaves to their label
Rich slaves
@Dan Rice What is a slave?
@@brandongreco4675 only with money management. Most end up broke, just like they say in this video.
@@dreamsofkaia7275 Do you know a lot of slaves worth $60 million?
@@youknowitstrue3826 their worth that but it doesn’t mean they actually get keep that.It imagine of a number.I wanna know what actually get to keep
That’s what’s so powerful about social media and paying attention to your negotiating skills. If you have talent and people like you they can be sidestepped them, because they’ve always been the middleman and now that’s evaporating. It’s nice to see humanity start to take their power back. Once you sign they got that ass on whatever you signed. NEVER GIVE YOUR POWER AWAY.
It’s rigged. It needs to be investigated. It’s almost like a ponzi. All these guys are connected. Even the lawyers for some of the entertainers, work quietly against their client. Looks like crimes are being committed. Someone should start a petition to have the justice department look at this. And if it’s all okay. We carry on
How you gonna do it without using their platforms like Spotify?
So what to do?
We must start creating our own wide open free speech platforms and switch to them. We’ve allowed one big group of parasites corner the entire market giving us one option when we should have endless options.
This is from Joe Rogan's interview with Billy Corgan of The Smashing Pumpkins. If you are a musician: aspiring, veteran, in-between, you HAVE TO watch that interview, it is amazing are scary all at once.
They talk about Courtney love?
About to watch it now🎶🎶🎶
The only thing I learned from this guy is how to be a scumbag and I do the opposite
Wow I will definitely watch this!
Billy walked into a party at a friends house I was at once ⚠️
*Your Favorite Artists Are Being Pimped*
@Max Power they can always get a real job for thirty or forty years and a gold watch 😂
@Max Power who said I don’t like my life? my life has been fabulous and just gets better all the time. I retired 12 years ago, got bored of that and got another job that takes me all over the country. And that pays for some real nice toys and vacations around the world.
My comment was aimed at these so called poor artists who just want to complain about shit that they signed up for.
By 👁🔺️
To Pimp A Butterfly 🦋
And more....😢🤮🦠
Let’s take back the music industry. Support local artists, buy there merch and see them live.
The music industry is dead as far as rock . Rock is dead because there's not enough album sales to generate the cash flow . Record companies are not going to sign a 5 man band , not enough money to be made and split . Rock bands also need a large road crew , expensive instruments etc. While rap and pop needs a mixing board and a microphone lol .
This is why it's mainly rap and pretty faced solo artists these days . Very few new rock bands make it now . Touring generates money for the Bands that were already established 20 + years ago but they're aging fast . Streaming killed the " potentially big" up and coming Rock Bands .
Take the indie route. Less of a chance to end up enslaved by a very-long-term contract.
Just for them to blow up and sign a deal😂
Exactly💯
@@manchesterexplorer8519yea it's sad isn't it. Rap artists who are rich even though they're not real musicians
That’s why I stay independent. You make your own money, you do your own marketing, everything. As long as you put your hard work into it and smart with it. That’s why I’m mainly just listening to independent artist now. Fuck the mainstream cause they just make similar sounds and that’s more important too. You get to create your own sounds if you can make beats if not then find a friend to help you or just start learning to make beats your own. Period!
Staying Independent you don't get the radio play or notoriety as a signed label!?
@@frankbalazs8816 actually you can get radio play it depends the luck cause I can name few artist who had radio play. In addition when it comes to clearing samples it’s easier as well because their is a service that helps you clear samples as an independent artist pretty much anything that a label can do independent can do. Furthermore it also depends on building connections too for like managers to help you book tours and stuff and I actually know one person personally that be doing that and me too ones I go back to release music cause I havnt in a while imma be true and yea man. It all comes down to how hungry you want it
@@frankbalazs8816the game is changing
@@frankbalazs8816you can
The music industry basically pimps you out in a way
Pimp the government
Positively inspirational and motivating pereon
As with any other industry. Take your pick
It was always like that
To Pimp A Butterfly
He should tell ppl how they control some of your lyrics and the artists are used as tools to push out programming.
Right & their lyrics are programming as well🤯
Nah he wants to cry about selling his soul
This!!!!
I bestow upon thee the tin foil hat of nonsense my good sir
I think they successfully broke that 7 album contract...
What's that old saying? "contracts are made to be broken"
Make enough money after 3 or 4 albums, then shop for another label whose lawyers can help break that contract.
Or, you can do what Vanilla Ice did and meet up with "Shug" Knight at his 12 story crib to have a balcony signing party😆
Now imagine NOT being Billy Corgan and NOT being one of the best bands of all time. Makes you think twice about getting into this business.
"Best bands of all time".....BWAAJAJAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHhHHHHaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
Best band of all time Seriously LMAO
lol nice try
They have like 7 good songs dude
@@williamvonderheide162music is subjective to some degree. It's not all about being technical
Prince, michael, witney etc
dmx song industry describe it so well
When I seen the thumbnail to this clip I automatically thought it was going to be about a rapper, because they're always exposing the music industry the most. Now I see artists from all genre's are being screwed over with their contracts
Rappers simply get screwed over easily because half of the ones that get signed know nothing about music, or the industry and the other half can't even read the contract they're signing.
There's actually a documentary from awhile back about Thirty Seconds to Mars, Jared Leto and the band, and their lawsuit with their label. It basically exposed it back then and the type of deals/contracts that any type of music artist is exposed to or signed on to.
It isn't new news that artists have been in some serious contracts, and screwed over in or by the industry... Goes back awhile not only the last decade.
Just more people are talking about it now.
@@skulkid2886 Nah I think most of them get screwed no matter the genre.
There have been songs for 50 years about it. Pink Floyd " Welcome to the Machine" ect
@@smith97320 Nirvana "Rape me"
lol you know Dorian's audience is young af when he gotta refer to Corgan as "an artist worth $60m".
I was thinking the same thing lol
Lol Right, Smashing Pumpkins is a classic 90s rock band, been sampled so many times
Or we just don't know who tf he is?? You act like he's micheal Jackson or some shit
@@dalanijoseph9354 looool
@@dalanijoseph9354 uhh he basically is Micheal Jackson for alternative rock. Smashing Pumpkins is a top 50 hall of fame band.
New Orleans, the Melancholy tour, you told us all how tired you were and voiced your feelings about this. Broke my heart because in that moment I knew what you were going through. Well Billy, we didn’t forget you or your music! Love you bro!
If u want to know how to do it right in the music Industry, look into Russ’s story. It’s surprisingly inspiring to see how he held out for years until he built his own success without a label or contract
Who??
@@a.nobodys.nobody russ
@@a.nobodys.nobodyRuss. He's a rapper. Listen to him. He's speaks on the game regularly, he's one of the only ones on our side. As well as Ye.
Nipsey too.
Billy is such a genuine guy.
I used to be security at The Metro, and even his personal security on Wednesdays where he would go look at up and coming bands.
There used to be a time that I would have mocked Corgan for having personal security, but then Damageplan had their final show….
@@kidwajagstang, all of the big name musicians and artists have security.
And there is always security at the venues that they play.
@@kidwajagstang Yep. RIP Dimebag Darrell.
I’ve never heard a Smashing Pumpkins song, but I remember them from my childhood. They were big, too. The game has mercy for no one!
Listen to their song from GTA 4 called 1979
Yeah they're garbage.
I only heard of them.. But yeah
@@willapple8145 Nah, listen to Vice City GTA. That song was such a hit, it hit the airwaves.
You probably heard it bro just didn't know it was them. They were one of the biggest bands.
„You sign a contract for half your life!“ - Joe Rogan, died at 28
lmao yeah like what? joe rogan said over half your life and that’s not even close to half lmfao
He meant half of your life up to that point at age 23. 🤦♂️
Im laughing so much at this comment 😅
This isn't a secret anybody who's been in the music industry at any level already understands this!
It's very unfortunate they do pray upon young people who can't really contemplate or understand the long-term the same as someone who's older because if Billy told this to a starving Street kid who just got offered a contract they would disregard everything he said because this is their shot and it won't be until later do they finally get it when it's too late
He’s talking to people that don’t know about the music industry……
@@SP7000SP I mean artists have been talking about how shitty the industry is since the 70s I'm surprised people still don't realize this
Lol you can just delete the first sentence of your comment.
@@gregburger5186 bro what???
@@NecroSage naw
Every biopic about a musician condensed into about 30 seconds...
You Tell em smashing pumpkins!!!! Y'all are still loved & Your music timeless. The 90s.💕 Last Great decade of good music.
Epic part is Joe acting shocked.
@@ron6927 signing a contract to take you past half your life.. 37+37=75
He said for more than half your life, at 23 years old signing a 14 year long contract is indeed more than half..
The latter is what he actually meant.. if he misspoke and meant the prior then it still makes sense. 🤷
That look isn't shock, it's possibly the effects of the air freshener.
I mean then don’t sign the contract lol. If you don’t like the way labels operate stop supporting them lol. How can we be mad they are just giving us what we want
This man pretty much single handedly wrote and played, imo, the best album of all time....SIAMESE DREAM forever!!!
Artist funny th-cam.com/users/shortsSZz3MK9p_tE?feature=share
People with no talent making money off the talented. HA
Talent that doesn’t have the means or the machine to push their music in an supply and demand world complain that people who hire thrum controls them…well how about they do it on their own then?? OOOPPPS forgot…they wouldn’t have blown up without the “people with no talent”
I used to feel this way, but hustling is a talent. Duping people is a talent, too. Not necessarily one that’s viewed well, but it’s a craft, nonetheless.
People with money making money off people with no money 👍🏾
Think about it...
An artist is into the art
An artist wants to make art, share it with the world, and make enough to provide and have fun doing it.
The music industry isn't invested in art or the artist. The MI wants to squeeze every drop they can get out of the artist for the sole purpose of making money.
How does that leave the artist and their art in the end?
The MI will pump you and your music so much that you'll become a fad that everyone will get tired of, and the grinding process will destroy your spirit, your love for the art, and your relationships.
@@MrSPIDEY21 A woman who marries a wealthy man can experience abuse even though she has materials and sustenance.
Should she be grateful and be silent about her abuse?
And that's not counting "industry plants", who really don't get any say so, because their success is solely by company design...🤷🏾♂️
Bullet with Butterfly Wings was an incredible album as was Meloncholy and the Infinite Sadness
Thank you Billy for exposing this.
I hate Russ as a musician but he was a genius when it came to dealing with record companies. Exposed a lot of shady practices
What did he do or expose from them isn't he independent?
He didn't exposed anything. He took what he learned and went his own way. This isn't new, and he ain't the first to do it, especially when you have music platform to self promote.
When you show that advances are just high interest loans and that once you stop being the A-side of the music industry they dont have to promote you anymore or put any money behind you. Anything you put out is on contract. You dont own it. Russ didnt go independent.... He promoted himself until he already had a little bit of a name and used that to negotiate a better contract where he owns the masters and he gets the royalties and what ever else he wanted. He EXPOSED how record companies treat up and coming musicians. He EXPOSED how with social media you can promote yourself and build a brand. He might not be the first person to talk about these things. But he was the first i really heard about it
@@Ben-xf7uy he was the first for you because that's the type of music you listen to. It's alright man.
@@j-us-t_be-in-g you still have to have that indecipherable "something" that makes people wanna buy your records...a lot of technically talented artists just don't have that "heart" put into their music that makes a lasting connection with the audience.
I still listen to smashing pumpkins. Melancholy and the intimate sadness cd is still in my truck.
Florida?
You still have a CD player in your truck?
Lol. No I’m in Texas but yeah it’s original and still going. Just don’t have the heart to remove it.
Infinite Sadness not intimate
Is it the best double album ever? With all due respect to Biggie, Pink Floyd and Wu Tang I say it is.
7 years was really generous back then- allowed artists to actually develop their music. Nowadays… labels want to instantly bank on an artist. If you’re not popping within a year… cut.
Independent artist is the way to go. Yea, it's alot harder but it's possible. It's all up to you and your music.
Truly !!!! U can make it independently especially if you have money
@@IamJalayaaa yea, you do need money but not as much as people think. The main thing, before anything, having good music.
Idk, man. I can talk about this for hours but I'm sittin here now tryin to make some music 😏🎧🎸
Now that I’ve herd this again it’s beginning to sound like any other corporate job, except you get aid a lot more. 🤷🏿♀️
Aid?
@@mikolowiskamikolowiska4993 *paid. The artist gets paid a lot more than average person
Except the pay is more like a loan. A loan you have to pay back from your small % of the revenue generated.
@@SL-pg4dh that is a weird comparison to make. I know so many talented broke artists. Average person in the corporate world doesn't equal to the average artist. Only the ones that go mainstream make a buck that too while they last. Corporates atleast give benefits and money for donkey work and they do climb the money ladder.
@JAY CHROM3 You people are really like children.
I never understood why a record label would sabotage their own artist
They are lawyers and not music lovers…to them it’s about taking advantage of the impressionables aka the youth.
@@outoforderspace2711 but what’s the point?? Wouldn’t it make more sense to promote their artist which makes them money in return
@@qbennett7232 I think they know that the next hungry talent is always going to be a readily available infinite source. Hence why there are so many of the same type of artist pushing the same type of music that you hear of today but not tomorrow
@@qbennett7232 there's a clip by Chaka Khan where she said a music exec told her she was worth more as an artist dead than alive.
I’d have to see the contract but my guess is that they risk a lot investing in you as well. I’m guessing the marketing and promotion side costs a lot and often yields no fruit for a lot of artists. Just playing devil’s advocate.
We need more people talking about this ❤️ thank you
i am so glad the internet opened this industry where the few holding people down no longer can.
Billy is a living legend
“Today” is that work shout out guitar hero for putting me on 😂
The music industry is the pimp game. Perfect business to study
Just find, read and memorize a long out of print book called Making It With Music by Kenny Rogers. Also, Leap Of The Small Time Frog. Out of print as well. Apply the principles of those 2 books and you'll be successful in the music business. That's what I did. I'm into my 35th year. "The music business can be boiled down to one word: leverage." - Kenny Rogers
I thought this was Bill Burr for a minute.
I tell everyone.go the daft punk route.
Love Daft Punk, but what exactly did they do? Were they independent?
@@cynthiaschmidt9420 i was hopping he would respond to. i was curious about it
@@cynthiaschmidt9420 they owned their music outright and every album was shopped to the labels and they could only sell it for a certain amount of time.they kept everything
@@cynthiaschmidt9420 watch daft punk unchained itll bring you up to speed on how they dealt with deals and labels.all their docs and movies are great too.good watch
@@TheBrob1983 but that's an extremely hard thing to accomplish, you can count how many artists have been successful going that route without using your other hand. ICP is another example of an artist getting extremely lucky to have success independently, they signed with a small label that quickly got bought out by another label who gave them a small advance for one album, said label renegotiated their contact for more albums and gave them an advance to reflect the change in contract, that same label was bought by one that was owned by Disney who did not want clown faced rappers who rapped about torturing sinners and were more about concept albums then producing singles so they quickly bought out ICPs contract. In one year they were under 3 different labels and after all the advances they received and the payment to terminate their contract they earned 1.5 million. They used that 1.5 mil to create their own label Psychopathic records and two decades and almost a dozen albums (2 platinum and several gold) later they're one of the most successful independent artists of all time
Every artist I ever met beg for a major lab to sign them. First of all every artist has a lawyer representing them and goes over every point.
Then at some point they get mad they signed it.
DON'T SIGN IT.
Not all Artists have lawyers representing them, and an artist would be lucky if every point was covered.
Where do you get your false information?
@@AllHandlesRTaken Any reputable Record company would insist you have a lawyer. If you have a lawyer and he doesn't go over every point I don't believe it's the labels fault. Where do you get your information?
Not signing is infinitely easier today than 20 years ago. The internet has allowed artists so many tools to become self made, and you see it almost more often than not. Labels are a dying architecture. Just like legacy media is clawing, scraping and screaming to maintain relevancy
These are Entertainment lawyers. They don't have your best interest either. They also work alongside these demons....... they mean no one any good.
@Maurio Johnson I know they are entertainment lawyers. I worked with them for 30 years, and you're right some are scum but there are many good ones
No matter what anyone thinks about Billy Corgan; he tells it how it is!
That"s what happens when you sign a contract with the devil. He may give you fame, money, "success" ... but he will never give you ever lasting life, much less salvation.
Repent all of you that follow your own ways and wishes, for those are ways and wishes implanted into you by the evil of this world.
Look for God while He can still be found.
*everlasting
*who, not that, follow
@@Ultamami free English lessons hey LOL
May Lord Satan deliver you from your closeminded ideology. Hail Satan!
if he would tell the real truth they would tell what other sacrifices they have made literally. these two know they took the baphometic oath.
Duddy deals back in the days. Thanks for the honesty. ❤
Pumpkins...
One of the absolute best concerts that I've even seen.
Pensacola Florida
Still love them today
Well if you’re worth $60M, doesn’t seem like there’s a whole lot of wiggle room to complain.
That was from ALOT of hard work on the road on touring
@@90745 i worked stacking cell towers, 80 hours a week , never made a million, some towers were 1500 feet high
Pay attention! He doesn’t get that $60m. And the pressure to return on profit is nearly impossible, with the system he signed up with.
@@albusai 80 hours /week? How long did you do that? Not too long; I can imagine.
@@AllHandlesRTaken 10 years
This is why I love Young Dolphin 🐬 PrE!
The whole interview with Billy is brilliant
I've always been interested in what goes on behind the scenes of the entertainment industry and no matter who it is or what genre, it's a dog eat dog business and the studios make you sign contracts where they're in control.
Fame and fortune are fine and dandy but if you're under someone else's thumb, it can't be as much fun as one would imagine.
They don’t “make you”, they choose.
Lol this is every company at every job 🤣
Nah you can leave a job you can't just leave a label your sign to
Right bro, it's all the same with different degrees. Some people can't leave their job self made, some people can. jG310HOE just trying to explain this happens with companies too. Corruption? Bad people? Scummy pressure tactics? Not entirely sure...maybe all of the above..
Yep while you are there you should learn how they do things so you can do it for yourself. This guy blames being 23 and not being wise enough to know better. He signed to get exposure the people he is contracted for are not in it to lose money that would be stupid.
@@thesage90 yes you can
@@thesage90 you can but its not like saying you quit they signing a paper. You get so much from a label and if you wanna leave you gotta give it back and sometimes its that plus some. Its just better to find a good deal than to take the first offer
I wrote a contract for the record label I wanted to firm when I was like 15. I remember showing it to my therapist because I was so happy that I had accomplished this. The thing was on par with the big dogs and I did it all from research. I still have it, truly a work of art. But it is true, that thing tied you up 😂. I was nice however, in allowing for shorter terms. Still-everything I funded, I owned. Pretty much, you worked hard and I made most the money.
Yah ok sure
Yeah uh-huh sure ummkay...f!@#'n weirdo
@@Mr.DejaVuOfficial love you too mom
I mean they are investing the money's into u hoping u don't flop and you make money in the process, that's what happens when you don't have money backing you up
You sign that deal and they own you. Never looked at it from this side
I’m glad ”he” said it…because if ‘we’ just said it. Most of “y’all” wouldn’t believe it.
Jay-Z did this best. He signed himself and took the genre by storm
Cause he was so popular. He knew he could climb by himself
According to a record producer I know, many labels pool all their resources for a new act's first album or two, then back off and watch the act 'sink or swim'. They don't care, really, because newness is their bread and butter. If an act can sustain, great. If they can't, there's a new up and coming artist waiting in the wings.
Take notes kids. Right now it’s as easy as it get to become your own label. Forget the big companies do it yourself. No contracts and no heartache of being a slave under mind control. It’s not that hard to manage yourself or to find a reliable loyal manager. And everyone has a recording studio in their pockets. We don’t need the corporate music industry.
The only thing you forgot is that you’re competing with big labels that have big marketing budgets. Marketing is equally if bot more important to break through the noise. It’s a business at the end of the day, and if you think uploading from your little distrokid account is enough you’re wrong
It’s one of the reasons I respect Tom Macdonald. He’s independent and working hard. 👍
True, Executioner does that too and you can see how the music comes directly from the heart and has no influence from a label
YEPPERS AND THE INDUSTRY HATES TOM FOR IT BECAUSE HE IS STRAIGHT UP SPREADING HARDCORE TRUTH LOVE HIS MUSIC
WISHING YOU A BLESSED WONDERFUL DAY STAY SAFE HEALTHY HUMAN AND BLESSED
He never had the chance to not be independent, buddy. 👍
@@arthurramirez5665 that's bs
and chamillionaire lupe fiasco soulja boy 🔥
Apparently, record labels also own rights to your music through the universe, and holographic reproductions of you created by Artificial Intelligence.
😮 what
Thank you for speaking up and letting me know.
Learn as much as humanly possible (producing, instruments, mixing, sound design, marketing, business etc.) and start releasing music in your 30s instead of your early 20s…
Nobody will know the difference and you’ll have the life experience to handle the grind of independent content creation.
Skipping those steps is what gave the industry the power to do this to ppl over and over again. We were gaslit to be obsessed w “youth” rather than “art”….
You see alot of music artists today are going independent
But most don't last long
@@ericthomas9804 sadly
Fun fact...Billy Corgan owns NWA wrestling
@James Walker for about 4 years now
God I miss this band, was just listening to them today too.
If you join a union you’re expected to work 30 years. That’ll take you to retirement. We’re all indentured servants dude
The big secret is you can have even greater success if you go independent. Might take longer but at the end of the day you still have your soul.
MORE POWER TO THE GROWING INDEPENDENT ARTISTS OUT THERE KILLING IT, PASSING THESE PEOPLE ON THE CHARTS and they own all their own music and steer their own careers
Bro said more than half your life when he heard 14 yrs🤣
Smashing pumpkins is one of the best groups to form. Next to my chemical romance and HIM.
@The Insult Pigeon Shit, insult pigeon on the job haha. Do ya thing Fly boy.
Satan was the highest of angels and led God's choir before he was cast out of heaven for wanting to be above God. Satan's craft is to take people through music.
@Alice Kae Shut up.
Congratulations nobody cares, all Hail satan
bro that ain’t no secret some people are built for it some aren’t
THIS is why I always enjoyed Bill Burr so much. His insight into the industry is unparalleled. ROFL. But seriously this interview was amazing, Corgan was ahead of the curve in a lot ways, but I can't imagine being as young as he was (or any member of that band tbh) and dealing with decisions like this.
Kanye is right
This is literally what it means to sell your soul to the devil. You will do whatever they tell you as long as it makes them money.
Sounds like the average 9-5
Something that’s been implanted in my brain ever since I was born.
Man, Billy's interview was absolute Rogan gold!
So basically what you’re saying is don’t sign such a shitty contract…
Sign a good contract then 😂
Some artists seem to be thriving signed under Republic Records, but idk everyone's story if they're actually winning big or not.
An artist? You don't know who this legend is. One of most prolific songwriters ever. So under appreciated.
We need more artists like billy corgan and the pumpkins not only for the material, but to get the honesty and industry secrete.
Makes sense why artists don’t drop music they should be dropping. The labels get in their minds “you’re going to fall off let me take over” then they drop some weird ahh music cause the labels really know nothing and they’ll maximize the most profit out of someone they “think” is falling off but in reality they never were
this is exactly why im learning how to produce my own beats so i can be my own label
Dude, get a grip
@@teotvrdeic8260 grip these nuts
@@casualfoodenjoyer7951 LMAO
@@adangamez3608 got him crying fr
@@casualfoodenjoyer7951 making masic has nothing to do with publishing. I understand your desire to publish your own music but thats completly another thing. What daw do you use? What kind of music would you like to make?
I farted right when that lil blue thing popped up at the top of the screen like “bloop”
Much respect to this man not just for the music but for what he has done for the wrestling business. Salute ✊
Any time Corgan talks… I listen. He is full of good advice.
“More than half your life”. lol
Come on Joe
At 23 it IS more than half your life that you lived until then.
Ion even know who this dude is
Dope lyrics, heavy bass, some lyricism - and in the back of your head you have to anticipate it being turned into a dance track YAHHHHH
Sounds like solid business practices. "They get out of your way when your making money," "they step in when you're not." FUCKING DUH!!!!
I was done this way 15 years ago. I was signed and shelved. Then released with nothing 🤦🏾♂️.
Damn what label was it?
@@lastlvl it’s 🧢
@@lastlvl jive records
How’s that comparable to what is being said in the video?! If you were signed and then shelved and they never released your stuff, clearly whatever product you delivered to them was not up to par, even if maybe your demo or mixtape or whatever possibly sounded somewhat promising. So you never had hits, or a breakout album, or a level of fame and popularity to keep up to. And I’m guessing you didn’t really get much money from signing either, if that was the outcome of the situation
Makes sense, I forgot all about this guy 😳
I prolly would sign as of right now. I know I'd definitely get put through the ringer but in such a state of desperation signing my name sounds like a blessing even if it doesn't work out
Before you make a deal, have a big homie or sister, your parents and a lawyer with you. Maybe even a financial advisor as well.
Look at all the artists that got jerked!
An artist?
Never heard of this person. 🤷🏾♂️ but I believe him. If you're not independent, you're not doing it right. Look at what Strange Music and Nipsey Hustle did. It can be done without then.
This applies to everyone. Contracts exist in 1000s of forms. Buying a house, car, subscribing to websites, your job, your college, joining the military, credit cards, loans, getting medical help, downloading stuff, terms of social media, on an on.
If you want stuff, its more than likely you must first agree to someone elses pre- determined terms and sign, nod, agree, consent, say yes, shake hands or hug and kiss..being 23 is old enuf..yea he was a great artist..but dumb as a rock..like most of us. Dont be greedy, dont follow the carrot on a stick. The less debt you incur..the less beholding you are to others. Debt strangles you, holds you back
I am so glad I seen this!! GOOD JOB YOU GUYS TALKING ABOUT THIS EVIL ASS WORLD WE LIVE IN!!