Howdy! I'm the guy who made nmo_asylum, and I am glad you've found out how to have fun with the game! It's always been a struggle to build maps that accommodate all the disparate preferences of the NMRiH community. On one hand you've got new players, which most maps don't really cater to, so they often end up leaving before they learn the ropes. And on the other side you've got veteran players who are the backbone of the community and are always looking for new challenges, because they can run (or, briskly walk*) circles around the zeds. Not to mention melee vs guns, infinite ammo folks, speedrunners, solo players and full squads. It makes balancing a really hellish experience, since doing anything might please one group while pissing off another. I agree, I think the Mutators were a good way to help mend this divide. An excellent inclusion, that allows mappers to focus more on their personal preferences and creating unique/memorable experiences instead. So thanks for playing my map, I hope you enjoyed it! And I hope you enjoy the rest of the games offerings as well. * (Your forward walking speed is faster than a runner's running speed, because they need to stop to attack, so calmly walking away is a very potent tactic)
You’re the one who made one of the most iconic maps in NMRIH? I salute you sir, and thanks for contributing to it. As jank as it feels, I’m glad you understand that mutations help me get into the groove and play more comfortably. Hopefully you are still doing great things involved with the game.
The map is sick bro, just have one complaint about the menu, cant help but feel when im in the menu it feels like a sandbox for some reason, but ur amazing bro hope u can help more with other maps if ur still working there. Thanks man.
The difficulty of the game is mostly because the devs based the zombies and the game more around classic zombie movies and literature, than other video games. For a game that is older than 10 years now, made on the source engine (out of all things) by a couple of devs, its is quite well balancedI believe. It is a very different expirience to any of the other zombie games out there and it is very micromanagement based. Almost all of the official maps made by the devs themselves are well balanced imo and if you play the game at a relatively slow pace, processing everything going on around you, then it will be enough to get you through most of the maps. Although the hardest ones like nmo_shelter or nmo_underground require you to be utter most pacient, testing your ability to make desicions on the fly and being able to change your strategy just as fast. I remember the first time I played through some of the maps, not knowing anything about them prior to that, and the adrenaline rush from realising how to solve something while also wrangling a small group of undead is a feeling I've never expirienced in any other game. Imo, praising the game this much for adding mutators that simplify the game is like praising zomboid devs solely for the ability to make your own easier difficulty.
Well…yeah, that is what I’m saying lmao, I don’t like the game without mutators. Too clunky and frustrating. I’m more of a laid back person when it comes to games, I stopped doing tougher challenges after I beat TLOU on Grounded twice. Still, pretty fun game with some interesting puzzles and maps, and I’m hopeful the sequel will be just as good!
@@RedF0XDelta Well it really sounded to me like you criticized the game for those things rather than saying that you just didn't like that in your previous videos. NMRIH is totally not a laid back game for better or for worse but it is honestly a very fresh take on the zombie games genre I think.
@a.keeper Happen to agree with you man. I still though accept the guys opinion since he gave us his own perspective on the game, as a laid back dude. And not like us where we play the game religiously, I myself have almost 2,000 hours on nmrih and unlocked almost all achievements. He's just getting his own spin on the game and it's fine.
@@RedF0XDelta the thing is that you're criticizing the game for being to hard when we can clearly see in the video that you have no idea on how to play the game,it's like watching a game journalist making a review of a game,if you think the game is too hard it's ok,but as a,keeper said it didn't look like that in your video.
According to their recent steam post, they are merging with a larger studio and are going from part-time to full-time to push the development of the sequel further. It goes more in-depth there, but who knows where it will take the game. Even though there's no new release date, after 2077, I think it's best to keep the dates internal until something concrete is possible.
I accept your opinion now that you've gave the game a second shot and put more time into it. Though i never got mad at the movement, the hit detection yes, tho movement, never. The thing I love about nmrih is that you can play the game pretty chill after much much time and practice, also to completely play it solo, and beat maps. Though yeah if you think the game is frustrating to play without mutations then that's fine, and yeah im glad they allow you to get achievements with them on. Though i never bothered with them since, believe me or not, it makes the game easier with them on, like even easier than the game already is for me (not applying hardcore/realism difficulties). This is an improvement in my eyes since you completely disregarded it in the first video and see some light in this reflection piece.
All I was saying in this video was that I like it a lot more now because of the mutators. I’m happy you accept my opinion, but no offense man, the game without mutators isn’t fun to me. I haven’t even touched it in months because I’m genuinely bored with it.
The movement in nmrih was enough to make me lose brain cells when I first installed the game. I have a history of playing fps games (zombie ones as well). I've sunk over 6.5k hours into l4d2 so when I first installed this game I was in for a major surprise. I just find it less "enjoyable" currently because I really don't like the pacing, I could be half way into some levels and I just get bored and quit. This isn't to say I dislike this game, I still love it but I'm yet to fully appreciate the slow pace it requires.
@@RedF0XDelta yeah. By the way they actually removed the port shit a while ago and I was really surprised. I hop on, press create server and the port warning is absent. I tried creating a server with VPN to play with my buds and... It actually worked. You don't have to do the port hell anymore and thank god.
Ya know skill issues can sometimes just never change and that's fine! You do you bud ;) (Should say this game is like one of my top favorite games of all time up there with CDDA and the first time I played pz. You could say I'm a glutton for a ludicrously hard roguelikes tho)
Howdy! I'm the guy who made nmo_asylum, and I am glad you've found out how to have fun with the game! It's always been a struggle to build maps that accommodate all the disparate preferences of the NMRiH community. On one hand you've got new players, which most maps don't really cater to, so they often end up leaving before they learn the ropes. And on the other side you've got veteran players who are the backbone of the community and are always looking for new challenges, because they can run (or, briskly walk*) circles around the zeds. Not to mention melee vs guns, infinite ammo folks, speedrunners, solo players and full squads. It makes balancing a really hellish experience, since doing anything might please one group while pissing off another.
I agree, I think the Mutators were a good way to help mend this divide. An excellent inclusion, that allows mappers to focus more on their personal preferences and creating unique/memorable experiences instead.
So thanks for playing my map, I hope you enjoyed it! And I hope you enjoy the rest of the games offerings as well.
* (Your forward walking speed is faster than a runner's running speed, because they need to stop to attack, so calmly walking away is a very potent tactic)
You’re the one who made one of the most iconic maps in NMRIH? I salute you sir, and thanks for contributing to it. As jank as it feels, I’m glad you understand that mutations help me get into the groove and play more comfortably. Hopefully you are still doing great things involved with the game.
@@RedF0XDelta Aw shucks, you flatter me. And don't worry, I've got plenty of irons in the fire, a lot of them NMRiH related.
The map is sick bro, just have one complaint about the menu, cant help but feel when im in the menu it feels like a sandbox for some reason, but ur amazing bro hope u can help more with other maps if ur still working there. Thanks man.
The difficulty of the game is mostly because the devs based the zombies and the game more around classic zombie movies and literature, than other video games. For a game that is older than 10 years now, made on the source engine (out of all things) by a couple of devs, its is quite well balancedI believe. It is a very different expirience to any of the other zombie games out there and it is very micromanagement based. Almost all of the official maps made by the devs themselves are well balanced imo and if you play the game at a relatively slow pace, processing everything going on around you, then it will be enough to get you through most of the maps. Although the hardest ones like nmo_shelter or nmo_underground require you to be utter most pacient, testing your ability to make desicions on the fly and being able to change your strategy just as fast. I remember the first time I played through some of the maps, not knowing anything about them prior to that, and the adrenaline rush from realising how to solve something while also wrangling a small group of undead is a feeling I've never expirienced in any other game. Imo, praising the game this much for adding mutators that simplify the game is like praising zomboid devs solely for the ability to make your own easier difficulty.
Well…yeah, that is what I’m saying lmao, I don’t like the game without mutators. Too clunky and frustrating. I’m more of a laid back person when it comes to games, I stopped doing tougher challenges after I beat TLOU on Grounded twice. Still, pretty fun game with some interesting puzzles and maps, and I’m hopeful the sequel will be just as good!
@@RedF0XDelta Well it really sounded to me like you criticized the game for those things rather than saying that you just didn't like that in your previous videos. NMRIH is totally not a laid back game for better or for worse but it is honestly a very fresh take on the zombie games genre I think.
@a.keeper Happen to agree with you man. I still though accept the guys opinion since he gave us his own perspective on the game, as a laid back dude. And not like us where we play the game religiously, I myself have almost 2,000 hours on nmrih and unlocked almost all achievements. He's just getting his own spin on the game and it's fine.
@@okaberintarou5203 This is the first intelligent comment I’ve seen since uploading this. Thanks man. Glad someone heard my side.
@@RedF0XDelta the thing is that you're criticizing the game for being to hard when we can clearly see in the video that you have no idea on how to play the game,it's like watching a game journalist making a review of a game,if you think the game is too hard it's ok,but as a,keeper said it didn't look like that in your video.
I genuinely hate to say, I enjoy how painful the game is sometimes. Except nmo_suzhou, fuck nmo_suzhou
According to their recent steam post, they are merging with a larger studio and are going from part-time to full-time to push the development of the sequel further. It goes more in-depth there, but who knows where it will take the game. Even though there's no new release date, after 2077, I think it's best to keep the dates internal until something concrete is possible.
I hope that they add multilation in NRIH
I accept your opinion now that you've gave the game a second shot and put more time into it. Though i never got mad at the movement, the hit detection yes, tho movement, never. The thing I love about nmrih is that you can play the game pretty chill after much much time and practice, also to completely play it solo, and beat maps. Though yeah if you think the game is frustrating to play without mutations then that's fine, and yeah im glad they allow you to get achievements with them on. Though i never bothered with them since, believe me or not, it makes the game easier with them on, like even easier than the game already is for me (not applying hardcore/realism difficulties). This is an improvement in my eyes since you completely disregarded it in the first video and see some light in this reflection piece.
All I was saying in this video was that I like it a lot more now because of the mutators. I’m happy you accept my opinion, but no offense man, the game without mutators isn’t fun to me. I haven’t even touched it in months because I’m genuinely bored with it.
Glad to see that you can enjoy this game as well
Yeah it’s really not the worst thing I’ve played. Not the greatest of takes but I think about revisiting.
This guy has some WILD takes
I live wildly
Game journalist behavior
@@RedF0XDelta game journalist response
@@Lakeland_IV That’d be a dream come true thanks man
@@RedF0XDelta game journalist comeback
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The movement in nmrih was enough to make me lose brain cells when I first installed the game. I have a history of playing fps games (zombie ones as well). I've sunk over 6.5k hours into l4d2 so when I first installed this game I was in for a major surprise. I just find it less "enjoyable" currently because I really don't like the pacing, I could be half way into some levels and I just get bored and quit. This isn't to say I dislike this game, I still love it but I'm yet to fully appreciate the slow pace it requires.
Understandable. Definitely not the worst, but it IS good for helping me go to bed
You’re denying yourself the proper experience by relying on those mutators.
I deny myself a lot of things
2:01 tbh brooklyn is probably one of the easiest maps. Atleast with the no stamina mutator.
Brooklyn is stupid easy tbh, I was just being a little bitch back then. I want to re-review the game with some updates
@@RedF0XDelta yeah. By the way they actually removed the port shit a while ago and I was really surprised. I hop on, press create server and the port warning is absent. I tried creating a server with VPN to play with my buds and... It actually worked. You don't have to do the port hell anymore and thank god.
I haven’t played this game, but this game may not be nearly as difficult as project zomboid.
Trust me it’s harder.
So?
Game journalists be like:
Average Reddit user
Ya know skill issues can sometimes just never change and that's fine! You do you bud ;)
(Should say this game is like one of my top favorite games of all time up there with CDDA and the first time I played pz. You could say I'm a glutton for a ludicrously hard roguelikes tho)
Oh brother!
Im honestly a little worried nmrih2 will be easy
I just don’t get why “easy” is considered to be “bad”. Not every player likes a dark souls challenge you know?
@@RedF0XDelta but dark souls is a good game ????
@@Lakeland_IV Oh you mean Dark Souls Version six? Because they’re all the same game?
@@RedF0XDelta game journalist take
@@Lakeland_IV You have completed life with this statement young man
I have a bad feeling about the sequel
After the most recent teaser, so do I. Not sure how I feel about the “open world permadeath” thing they seem to be showcasing.
Good walking zombie game: Project Zomboid.
OH GOD WTF IS THAT? No More Room In Hell. espaccily workshop maps. they just unfair for even 8 player.
I even know map that all mutator's that make you like god like being and make zombies crybabys this maps also can be unfair. lol.
This is an old review man. I wouldn’t classify either one as a “walking zombie game”, they’re both completely different.
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That’s usually how I like my water
Skill issue.
Fuck I’m awful
still looking at comments on a video from a year ago?
@@ucnhek I can’t really help the notifications man
@@RedF0XDelta tbh I do agree with you but it depends on your playstyle
@@ucnhek That’s great man