I totally understand and respect where Harry Tam is coming from. If you are locked up in an institution and your carers are beating the crap out of you, did you choose that? Why do people imagine that most average human beings who are subject to that kind of trauma will become healthy law-abiding contributors to a system that already seems to punish and predate on you at so many levels?
“…because I’ve had that label, you’re not gonna trust me” Same argument from honest social workers who have been let down by the bad eggs in the profession.
Sorry NesianRugby. I’m trying to understand your statement. I’m not judging but looking to understand your korero a bit more. Are you able to elaborate further?
@@KRZMA01 all good - Tam says his (and other gang members) gang background makes people sceptical of their intentions to now do good. Yet he holds the same sceptical view of social workers in the system. So he wants the public to trust him on one hand, while not taking his own medicine on the other.
@@nesianrugby uh no not exactly, his point was to explore/ try to understand why they distrust those authoritative figures. Based off personal experiences, trauma does form bias. That being a lower view on social workers due to the lack of protection and diligence on the governments behalf in terms of regulating their behaviours in the past. I think its more a lack of faith in how social workers were and are regulated, making sure no child abuse, solicitation etc is taking place. The government is who he actually has a problem with not the social workers specifically, but they were the perpetrators of crimes against them, aswell as the enabling authorities. Unfortunately workers used to steal from the state homes for their own families and those abused were told to be great full. However, he has acknowledged the progress and changes the government and crown has made to the system over the years, so hed be able to ascertain that not all social workers are the same. However he is able to sympathise with those who cant drop that bias. And i think thats the distinction. Yes, the public may have a certain view of gangs but tbh most arent personal experiences and if they are they tend to place greater importance on the injustice they have been faced with. For example, a gang member could be your neighbour and youre really only going to see the patch, not the addiction and trauma thats making them lash out. But youd view a pakeha neighbour lashing out in the same way for the same reasons as less of a danger, bc theres no patch. theres an inherent need from the media to villianise the mongrel mob, instead of focusing on the individual bad seeds and the enabling factors. The Mongrel Mob wants to be able to make change were its needed and wanted, to rectify their wrongs as the government has had a chance to many time over
Bruce Stewart came out of boob- and spent a night at Hiruharama marae. Ended up in a bus shelter at Island Bay. Hooked up with the Sisters of Compassion. Created dream out of Tapu te Rangi marae. It can be done- and be done again...
Was taken from my mother , grew up in family homes , foster homes, boys homes etc...was treated like shit and abused in many ways....thanks harry for speaking out bro. Grew up in porirua. Sfh.
harry u r right on the money kids join gangs 2 b excepted bi others, fathers have stuffed up abused them selves and there fathers suffered horrific abuse after the wars years i was told about ok.
BS we are all born with a brain, it is up to the individual to bloody use it, No funding should go to ANY gangs, however money should go towards education & trade skills, I was a slow learner at school, absolutely hated school, so they started up work experience and the whole class went out working 1 day a week, get kids interested in something they want to do, more life skills.
Why BS? Did you even listen to the man? This is not BS; he is talking truthfully about the human condition. Not everybody has the same biological makeup, life experiences, and reactions to those experiences. Not everyone can be great functional automatons of social pressure like you apparently are.
"I think this is the wrong since of judgement and [character] of reform by, govt. policy and Jacinda Ardern, is not in no - way - a qualified professional practicing psychologist of science. This is not about demonizing anyone" ...And, I know you're worthy for it say's so in his beginning of our very word, nga kupu o tera. However, its just like re - offending, and - over - again...Nga Eke...
Abandoned, neglected or otherwise abused by their families, or families unable to care for them were the reason for state care institutions. Yes the state care abuse was horrific and they should be held accountable but so should the parents who failed them in the first place causing them to be put in those state institution.
Losing their child to state care back in the day was punishment enough for some parents We were just taken from my parent DSW didn’t need a reason for removal
Nothing like seeing a man taking accountability and he isnt the root cause of the problem dummy, however he has made mistakes and enabled it in the past, whats wrong w trying to right your wrongs?
@Nordic Nation Takes more balls Not to become a gang member, and not beat your kids & wife, get a job & support your family. But guess you don't know cos you never tried it..."Big Man"
Got my support 💯 please Tam I hope the MMM don't fuck this up.. like you say through no matter what people will shit on you. But much love .. gotta try something new and change with the times.. Thanks Jacinda for allowing change and a chance❤️💯🤙
This is not on the backs off the mongrel mob.but a decision made by many.differant walks in life coming together for a common cause.Harry is the real deal.he is the best I've heard.
Cool uncle keep doing you're mahi the world may judge you but your whanau will always support your kaupapa and help our whanaus get on a better huarahi, Kia kaha uncle 😀❤🤙
Muldon hard man very hard but fair and strait up he said what would happen and it did i didnt like all his policy however he had answers that worked unlike the debt builders of today i government
Nice - try - CHAP'S...And, because you all do a good job of it by, yourselves treating one another like you're not worthy of anything, but a hiding and bullied to do STUFF - that you stigmatize the hell - out of one another...Stop! Doing it to one another then.! So, there...Got a get real ain't no - one else at the end of the day but, yourself - want and need.
Have you ever seen anything more pathetic; that part at the end where he says in that weak, lying tone "Jacinda seems to trust me, why wouldn't you". Jacinda? Seriously Harry, is that the best you've got.
I like what you say, Harry. Can’t being doing worse than others before you. I agree judging is hard not to do, but judging is certainly what we do. The only way to stop 501’s being sent back from Oz, is to become an Aussie Citizen. At least once that’s done Australia has to keep looking after you, even if in jail. PS A Piece of paper doesn’t take out your Kiwi Sole, & All Blacks Teams rule rugby 🏉
Ka pai koe matua Kia kaha to mahi i runga I to kaupapa hei arahi to Tatou whanau ki runga I te huarahi Tika hei kore te waka e titaka Mauri ora Matua , you're the man for putting this kaupapa on keep doing what you do, who cares if they criticize or judge you, at least you're doing something to help our people much aroha Matua Harry ❤🤙🤙
He's continually been abusive towards women/wahine and involved in criminal activity, he's never stopped. Where's the mana in that!? He's a liar & hypocrite and just conning the govt out of money.
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I totally understand and respect where Harry Tam is coming from. If you are locked up in an institution and your carers are beating the crap out of you, did you choose that? Why do people imagine that most average human beings who are subject to that kind of trauma will become healthy law-abiding contributors to a system that already seems to punish and predate on you at so many levels?
“…because I’ve had that label, you’re not gonna trust me”
Same argument from honest social workers who have been let down by the bad eggs in the profession.
Sorry NesianRugby. I’m trying to understand your statement. I’m not judging but looking to understand your korero a bit more. Are you able to elaborate further?
@@KRZMA01 all good - Tam says his (and other gang members) gang background makes people sceptical of their intentions to now do good.
Yet he holds the same sceptical view of social workers in the system.
So he wants the public to trust him on one hand, while not taking his own medicine on the other.
@@nesianrugby uh no not exactly, his point was to explore/ try to understand why they distrust those authoritative figures. Based off personal experiences, trauma does form bias. That being a lower view on social workers due to the lack of protection and diligence on the governments behalf in terms of regulating their behaviours in the past. I think its more a lack of faith in how social workers were and are regulated, making sure no child abuse, solicitation etc is taking place. The government is who he actually has a problem with not the social workers specifically, but they were the perpetrators of crimes against them, aswell as the enabling authorities. Unfortunately workers used to steal from the state homes for their own families and those abused were told to be great full. However, he has acknowledged the progress and changes the government and crown has made to the system over the years, so hed be able to ascertain that not all social workers are the same. However he is able to sympathise with those who cant drop that bias.
And i think thats the distinction. Yes, the public may have a certain view of gangs but tbh most arent personal experiences and if they are they tend to place greater importance on the injustice they have been faced with. For example, a gang member could be your neighbour and youre really only going to see the patch, not the addiction and trauma thats making them lash out. But youd view a pakeha neighbour lashing out in the same way for the same reasons as less of a danger, bc theres no patch. theres an inherent need from the media to villianise the mongrel mob, instead of focusing on the individual bad seeds and the enabling factors. The Mongrel Mob wants to be able to make change were its needed and wanted, to rectify their wrongs as the government has had a chance to many time over
Fascists?
Bruce Stewart came out of boob- and spent a night at Hiruharama marae. Ended up in a bus shelter at Island Bay. Hooked up with the Sisters of Compassion. Created dream out of Tapu te Rangi marae. It can be done- and be done again...
Don't trust anyone who tells you to trust them.
Was taken from my mother , grew up in family homes , foster homes, boys homes etc...was treated like shit and abused in many ways....thanks harry for speaking out bro.
Grew up in porirua.
Sfh.
Lots have that life they dont join a violent f@#n gang !
Government : "keep your enemies closer". Less backlash from public servants when government betray us all.
So much trouble in the world and the government is worried about this, bro keep it up Harry Tam you're a role model for our people chur brother
He is nothing more than a Marxist puppet...
Agreed at least he trying to do something what does everyone else do? Moan and bitch and moan some more and shit so much racist people in nz!
@@starktony1067 not racist, just judging them on their awful nasty character, just like martin luther king said.
A piece of paper doesn't make you a good guy,you can only be judged 9n your actions
Hitting the nail on da head..
harry u r right on the money kids join gangs 2 b excepted bi others, fathers have stuffed up abused them selves and there fathers suffered horrific abuse after the wars years i was told about ok.
BS we are all born with a brain, it is up to the individual to bloody use it, No funding should go to ANY gangs, however money should go towards education & trade skills, I was a slow learner at school, absolutely hated school, so they started up work experience and the whole class went out working 1 day a week, get kids interested in something they want to do, more life skills.
Why BS? Did you even listen to the man? This is not BS; he is talking truthfully about the human condition. Not everybody has the same biological makeup, life experiences, and reactions to those experiences. Not everyone can be great functional automatons of social pressure like you apparently are.
What is Harry Tam's reason for joining a gang?
"I think this is the wrong since of judgement and [character] of reform by, govt. policy and Jacinda Ardern, is not in no - way - a qualified professional practicing psychologist of science. This is not about demonizing anyone" ...And, I know you're worthy for it say's so in his beginning of our very word, nga kupu o tera. However, its just like re - offending, and - over - again...Nga Eke...
After 100s of years.. now you trust the establishment.. your being used mate..
Abandoned, neglected or otherwise abused by their families, or families unable to care for them were the reason for state care institutions. Yes the state care abuse was horrific and they should be held accountable but so should the parents who failed them in the first place causing them to be put in those state institution.
Losing their child to state care back in the day was punishment enough for some parents
We were just taken from my parent
DSW didn’t need a reason for removal
@@darrenkarena6569 don't believe that one bit they don't take kids away for nothing.
Nothing like hearing the root of the problem try to talk about the causes of the problem
Nothing like seeing a man taking accountability and he isnt the root cause of the problem dummy, however he has made mistakes and enabled it in the past, whats wrong w trying to right your wrongs?
It's in my whanau... no-one listens to the stakeholders...
Never seen jack so quiet, great interview. Tautoko
Ardern loves Harry T 2
7 billon to fix his house under drig help.
This guy knows how it all works
Very good interview he is right on the mark
Is Harry going to out-trump Mike King?
@Nordic Nation A railway gang- and two shearing gangs...
@Nordic Nation
Takes more balls Not to become a gang member, and not beat your kids & wife, get a job & support your family. But guess you don't know cos you never tried it..."Big Man"
Hardly !
Got my support 💯 please Tam I hope the MMM don't fuck this up.. like you say through no matter what people will shit on you. But much love .. gotta try something new and change with the times.. Thanks Jacinda for allowing change and a chance❤️💯🤙
This is not on the backs off the mongrel mob.but a decision made by many.differant walks in life coming together for a common cause.Harry is the real deal.he is the best I've heard.
He's all shit YFY WNG
It's been over a year and it's only got worse.
It's got worst because of the national Party followers lol
Because has been proven........
Cool uncle keep doing you're mahi the world may judge you but your whanau will always support your kaupapa and help our whanaus get on a better huarahi, Kia kaha uncle 😀❤🤙
What planet are you on
Muldon hard man very hard but fair and strait up he said what would happen and it did i didnt like all his policy however he had answers that worked unlike the debt
builders of today i government
Look upon this man and know.
He would kill you if he knew he could get away with it.
No he wouldn't, he's sly, but he hasn't the nutsacks to actually do something like that you give him too much 😂
Who judges them ,Maori has a hierarchical culture .
Culture has nothing to do with this program wake up
Bullshet
Nō we do not.
@OryanMcLean so chefs are beholden to the same standards as their slaves? Lol
"Jacinda trusts me, why don't you?" What a sick, slimy and sleazy comment.
Nice - try - CHAP'S...And, because you all do a good job of it by, yourselves treating one another like you're not worthy of anything, but a hiding and bullied to do STUFF - that you stigmatize the hell - out of one another...Stop! Doing it to one another then.! So, there...Got a get real ain't no - one else at the end of the day but, yourself - want and need.
He speaks truth.
More look bullshet
This dude originally came from Thailand
No hes actualy chinese !!!
Asian slit eyes
Jacinda trust me ,why dont you /answer nobodie trusts her lol
I do
@@malcolmrangiaho5419 😂😂😂😉😕
Go home chow chow
Have you ever seen anything more pathetic; that part at the end where he says in that weak, lying tone "Jacinda seems to trust me, why wouldn't you". Jacinda? Seriously Harry, is that the best you've got.
Don't judge ppl
Judging people is so pathetic, instead of judging, grow some balls and help them!!
@@freedomxd2733 Trusting someone is a judgement, a typically poor judgement from Adern.
I dont trust Jacindogg let alone this pesant
Welcome to NZ the fucking Venezuela of the Pacific or SHITHOLE as ol'Trumpy boi so RIghly said...
Gangster or not i say Awesome save our future from within after all it's us that make the choices in life not the dealers!
Its maori not mari
Harry Tam the only one speaking truth.actions well speak louder then words in this case..positive change .
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tau toko Korero, Hari nga mihi nui 💞
@Nordic Nation not blowing more like smoking meth and then blowing balls lol
❤❤❤
I like what you say, Harry. Can’t being doing worse than others before you. I agree judging is hard not to do, but judging is certainly what we do. The only way to stop 501’s being sent back from Oz, is to become an Aussie Citizen. At least once that’s done Australia has to keep looking after you, even if in jail.
PS A Piece of paper doesn’t take out your Kiwi Sole, & All Blacks Teams rule rugby 🏉
Ka pai koe matua Kia kaha to mahi i runga I to kaupapa hei arahi to Tatou whanau ki runga I te huarahi Tika hei kore te waka e titaka Mauri ora Matua , you're the man for putting this kaupapa on keep doing what you do, who cares if they criticize or judge you, at least you're doing something to help our people much aroha Matua Harry ❤🤙🤙
He's continually been abusive towards women/wahine and involved in criminal activity, he's never stopped. Where's the mana in that!?
He's a liar & hypocrite and just conning the govt out of money.
@@southpacific222 do you have proof of him conning the govt out of money? or is that an assumption?
Jst another woman basher to me bruh
I thought asians ate dogs 🤔
thats not funny idiot
Yeah now don’t judge before we eat humans
@@qugaltr2331 wouldnt suprise me if you havnt already 🤔
@@raelenebaker9620 the truth hurts sensitive people these days,your lot used to eat each other 🤭
He eats dogshit
SFSH MIGHTY
Cause i dont trust jacinder or any goverenment. Your all as crocked as each other.
My man 🤙🤙