The Origin Story Of The Elves From Witcher | The True Book & Game Lore
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 31 พ.ค. 2024
- In this video we explore the actual lore behind the Elves and their society, including both the Aen Seidhe and the Aen Elle. None of Netflix's Blood Origin as that ruins the lore and is the sole reason I wanted to make this video .
This is the story behind the elves of the Witcher universe.
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Timestamps:
0:00 - Intro
2:23 - Elves Of The Continent
9:13 - Encountering The Humans
16:36 - Scoia'tael Forming
22:07 - To This Day & Aen Elle
26:04 - Thanks For Watching
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Hope you all enjoyed this video that clearly wasn’t inspired by my annoyance at Netflix’s Blood Origin. Anyways hope you enjoyed!
Right there with you dude seems most of our filmmakers and TV show creators these days are more interested in trying to push some kind of an agenda or message and are creative and morally bankrupt
I'm out of the loop, is it bad?
@@aloelover6012 if you enjoy the book and game lore then you’ll hate it I reckon lol
@@WiseFish Oh man, yep, that answers my question lmao
Great video. Thought I might say though that the expulsion of elves from the contintinent was also a result of their hubris, in their habit to not build walls in their settlements (a detail not included in Blood origins go figure). Would also have been interesting to have some mention of the Black Seidhe, part ancestors to nilfgaardians (unless you'd mention them in a nilfgaard lore video).
Meanwhile Blood Origin elves: Yea we talk like human beings, dress up like human beings and love like human beings but we have pointy ears so we're elves.
Elves don't dress and love like humans?
@@dylansearcy3966 his point is they neglected their entire culture and identity, made them humans with pointy ears only
@Smitty Werben Jagger Man Jensen The "Viking" elves irked me the most. Somehow these alien creatures with a deep cultural obsession over Magic, evolve with a group exactly as the humans. Netflix's lack of creativity never ceases to surprise me.
Don't mention that abomination 😭😭 I still got ptsd from what they did to the elves in that show!!
WE WUZ ELVEZ N SHEEEEIT!
I love how you put this is the REAL lore and unrelated to that bastardization of said lore Netflix shat out
Shat out is a great summary and description
Same, it's what drew me here even though I know this lore already, but Blood Origins was painful enough to listen to the real deal again.
My lord, Finally something great to wash off the nasty aftertaste of the totally-canon-trustmebro Blood Origin, thank you for your work my friend
Had to be done lol thanks for watching
@@WiseFish These books and its lore really deserve this much care and attention, especially more so when it's something that's as culturally celebrated as The Witcher.
Admittedly, the only good thing I can say about Netflix's disrespectful attempt at a prequel is that your video on the history of Witchers came into my recommendations because of it, and consequently all your other lore breakdowns on other video games as well. Do keep up the brilliant work my good man, your presentations really do these stories justice. 👍👍
You see how they portrayed Eradin? Smh
@@getcrunk117 black? 🤣
@@getcrunk117 yeah I hadn’t read the books or played the games so I got fooled into thinking he was good lmao 🤣
Honestly if I was an elf I would prefer to be just a legend, since it would’ve been better for the elves to just remain hidden then fight against a pack of hungry wolves that will always outnumber them.🐱
well said
Some did, others didn't and unfortunately, thoses who didn't were the futur of elven kind. Even so, thoses who did hide to wait their hour were starving in the Blues Mountains.
Just imagine if Netflix adapted the books 1 to 1. This would rival game of thrones
LOTR: Elves and Humans are long-time allies and friends.
The Witcher: Elves and Humans hate each other and commit genocide against each other.
Warhammer Fantasy: Elves and Humans are somewhat allies though mostly against the horrors of chaos but aren't 100% friendly with each other.
Personally, I like the Warhammer Fantasy version of Human-Elf relations as they're usually ok with each other and only team up when things get serious. Still, I respect The Witcher for showing what could of happen if realistic humans made contact with Elves.
Elves in Warhammer are very distainful of humanity and have good reason, if they didn't have the huge power differential humans would give them the same trouble as in the Witcher world. Wood elves have forests that move around and mess with invaders and dark and high elves have far away lands near impossible to reach.
@@amh9494 As I said they are not 100% friendly with each other as much of their relationship is mainly through trade and their share hatred towards chaos and other threats. I never said they're sweet on each other just content.
Witcher elven relation are much better in the south
@@SimpleNobody2420 I didn't say you were wrong with anything just that if they were for example pushed together into the old world then it would be just like Witcher
Awesome! I'm always amazed how different elven lore can be from universe to universe. From the Elder Scrolls, to Tolkien, to this one, to Warhammer even, it's all very cool to hear about. Well played!
Witcher elves in many ways are pretty Tolkien-esque :), they are also heavily inspired by Celtic mythology as well as having very Celtic culture and language :), they of course also have unique traits and some differences (for example the Aen Seidhe and Aen Elle seem to have some lifespan and are not truly immortal like Tolkien elves, witcher elves live for hundreds of years and remain youthful looking but still)...such a shame that netflix really screwed up with the elves in their live action shows. Depicting the elven civilization could have been interesting if done lore faithfully.
Elves are basically always the same. Like dwarves, dragons and humans. The characteristics are quite stereotypical.
@@saymyname2417 That's good. That's the point. The different fantasy races in fiction are representations of concepts. There can be variations within these concepts, but if they stray too far they become vague and unsatisfying. Something like the Netflix show did, making the "elves" just humans with pointy ears and nothing else.
@@LordEsel88 - I see what you mean and you're not wrong.
But what I also see and read its hat we get the same old story told over and over again.
Sure in different gowns and colours but it's always the same old and people have been influenced to accept the stereotypical roles of the prospective races. And that of the humans is never a good one while monsters, dragons and elves are always depicted in a positive role and that of victims.
Which is one reason many people have adopted the trope of "the real monsters are the humans". Despite world devouring, sun blocking, genocidal, serial killing, sociopathic atrocities. It is unfathomable to me.
@@saymyname2417 I agree with you about the trope of "humans are the real monsters". That concept is overused today.
I still can't deal with the ballsack Nilfgaardian armor from the show
Discovered your Witcher videos last night and they're fab! Please do one on the history of the Scoia'tael.
This video has better everything than the Netflix show Blood Origins.
Good job buddy!
Awesome well structured video pal. 🙂
Been binge watching you the last couple days. Finally subscribed 🤣🤣
Great video! Would love to see you do a video on the Dwarves next! 🤞
Very nice and captivating video, keep it up, you make content worthy thousands of more views
Love your channel, I just found it the other day.
3:30 uh, where did you found the lore that the Unicorns helped the Aen Elle building their civilisation?
3:38 Actually, no, the Gnomes are the oldest specie of the continent, then the Dwarves, the Werebubbs, and the Nymphs. It's actually not known for how long the Vrans were on the continent but it's theorized that they were there before the Aen Seidhe.
5:09 It has to be said that elves knew nothing about agriculture and were hunters-gatherers.
6:35 I don't think thoses arrowshead are typically elven, the only time they are mentionned is in Witcher 1 after you supplied a commando Scoia'tael with gear, ammunitions and medicines.
8:37 I don't think anyone beside the ancients Aen Seidhes and the occasionnal victims of the Wild Hunt ever met a Aen Elle.
9:35 uh the First Landing happenned a thoussand years after the Conjunction of Spheres, it's unknown where the humans lived before but it was in the west.
10:50 It's also worth noting that the first interactions between humans and elves were friendly and even beyond friendly, as the females elves discovered they reproduced more easily with humans than with their male counterparts.
13:50 You forget to mention that only young elves can reproduce, that their females ovulate once a decade and that most of the elves that followed Aelirrenn were young elves A.K.A the ones that could have children and their death was a very serious if not a fatal blow to the elven race.
20:02 There was also neutrals mages.
24:10 the Elves weren't dependants on the Unicorns to travel between worlds before the Conjunction.
wow, you found even more errors than me :D
mad respect for your knowledge of this franchise
@@DofDGlory That's how i know i'm passionated about something, because i want to learn everything there is to learn about it XD.
Thank you^^
In lady of the lake Ciri meets an unicorn that tells her that his race got tricked by the elves to open a portal to a new world and tacking it over by murdering and enslaving the population wich probably were humans.
@@erik1925 Which unicon? i have reviewed all conversations that Ciri has with unicorns in Lady of the Lake, the Elders, Ihuarraquax... None of them says that the Aen Elle used them to conquer the world of Tir na Lia but confirmed on the contrary that the elves posessed long ago control over a mystic gate that allowed them to travel between worlds. Not to mention, we know that even after the Conjunction, some elves still posess the power to jump between though at a lesser degree.
That doesn't make much sense in my opinion, the Aen Elle conquered their world long before the Conjunction, so it can't be Earth or there wouldn't be no humans to invade the Witcher world and they can't come from another world since it's before the Conjunction so it's quite weird.
For real, this video is just full of elven propaganda talking points
"Humans did not care about their beliefs, as it did not effect them in the slightest"....
That's EXACTLY why humans would care about it XD
Something i enjoy about the elven buldings is that is described as borderline ethereal that feels like with the slightest breeze it will fly away like if made of a jellyfish
You should do a video about the aliens from Prey 2006. They grind people up to make more of themselves, and all of their tech is partially living
great videos, you should make a witcher lore playlist like you have for other games.
Love the vids man.
I love the world of the witcher, thank you for making this video. I was gonna watch blood origin but seen the reviews and didn't wanna regret it like I did with watching rings of power haha
I love this channel. Does anyone else feel like this guy is the new Shoddycast or is it just me?
Aen seidhe derives from aos si the Irish Gaelic name for fairies and elves, translating to people of the mounds. And them arriving from a ship is based on how the tuatha de danann came to Ireland
In the past there were no aen sheid and aen aelle just one tribe, the differentiation began after the conjunction.
It actually began before, approximatively 1000 years before the Conjunction when the Elves that will become the Aen Seidhes separated from the other elves to live in the Witcher world while the reste settled in Elfland (no, the name isn't Tir na lia, that is the name of their capitale, not the name of their world which is actually unknown). The distinction is honestly superficial, particurlarly before the Conjunction but here it is.
@@efaristi9737 source? I wanna read it
@@wahidhassani689 Unfortunately, it's a mix of facts and of deductions. Sapkowski is a great writer but his work has some gap. Specifically on the History part. Most of the written history concern human history since the First Landing, Little is known about elf history and even less about the other races.
We know by Yarpen in Blood of Elves that elves arrived on the Continent a thoussand years before the humans. It's not clear to which Era he refer to, if he mean 1000 years before the Conjunction, moment where humans enter the witcher world or 1000 years before the First Landing, when the humans finally arrive on the continent. I think the first one theory is correct because elves and humans came over sea and elves couldn't travel between worlds after the Conjunction. So it's likely they would have met eachothers and the elves wouldn't have forgotten about them, yet, at the First Landing, it was, as far as i can tell, the first time they met.
Avalla'ch and Auberon in the Lady of the Lake affirm that the Aen Elle settled in their own world a long time ago before the Conjunction. So there was already two tribes, barely differents but two nonetheless. And it's implied the Aen Elle already called themselves that at that time.
In the same book, Avalla'ch speak about Ard Gaeth, the Great Eternal Door, that the elves used to travel between world and that they lost that power during the Conjunction so the two tribes cannot have split after the Conjunction. Likely, they used it to still meet eachother and thus their cultures were still widely similars but it was not possible after the CS.
It's actually not clear from which world the Elves came from. We know it's not Elfland because the Aen Elle affirmed coming from another world and settled there. It's doubtful it's the Witcher world but it's actually not impossible: The Dwarves talk about the first time they come on the continent, not about the first time they came into this world. Only the games speak of the Aen Undod, the first elves before they split into two tribes. So i guess it depends if you also consider the games canon.
I hope i gave you some answers.
The Aen Elle are basically space marine elves, they are taller, stronger and more phisically capable than the Aen Sidhe, and correct me if I'm wrong but their armor is also kind of like power armor
Honestly, Aen elle are more like the dark eldar, being both tall and conquorers of worlds.
@@MrNuclearturtle they are the Witcher equivalent of Dark Elves, but I meant physically.
Very nice right when I am at my 5th playthrough
You all don't understand the true genius of "The Witcher: Blood Origin", in fact, the authors are masterminds and are playing such a 4D Chess strategy that has fooled most of us, but not me, and I'm here to tell you what is happening and why "The Witcher: Blood Origin" is a masterpiece. They hide the fact very well, so much that I needed days to discover it, I spent nights awake thinking about it because I felt that there was something wrong, there was something that wasn't right in the story... then it hit me, in a moment of absolute clarity the revelation came to me: the storyteller is secretly an Aen'Elle and she's trying to mud the waters about the true nature of Ciri's powers in order to stop Geralt and company to get closer to the truth. The very existence of "The Witcher: Blood Origin" is a 4th wall-breaking ruse.
These authors are good, very good, but they can't fool me!
Note: I took 5-10 minutes more to post this comment, there was too much sarcasm dripping through the letters.
Me: 'Shrugs', "Well its not that insane of a theory."
It honestly feels that Lord of the Rings is the only medieval fantasy universe where Elves get to prosper. In Dragon Age and the Witcher, Elven civilisation has been destroyed and they live as beggars and nomads.
They hardly prospered, if you look at what happened up to the third age...
The third age was merely further depicting the decline of the elven species.
Only franchise that comes to mind where elves actually prosper is the elder scrolls
@@DofDGlory
I disagree. They had pretty good settlements and kingdoms in LOTR. Sure they weren’t at their peak prosperity, they live like kings compared to Witcher and dragon age elves.
@@stephen8805 what kingdoms?!
by the time the story of lotr took place even lindon was lost...
only things remaining of the once powerful noldor and telerin were a depopulated lindon led by one of gil-galads former officers, a small enclave in the misty mountains led by another of his officers and some remaining noldor, sindar and nandor in the woods^^
the last kingdom were the woodland realms with thranduil as the last remaining elven king and they could barely hold mirkwood...
not much of a difference to dol blathana really
@@DofDGlory
You know what I mean. They have at least some sort of civilisation in middle Earth they can be proud to live in and not be street rats and nomads like they are in the Witcher and dragon age.
@@stephen8805 In the Witcher some of elves also have their own land. After the 2nd war with Nilfgaard, Emhyr gave back Dol Blathana (Valley of Flowers) to elves where they made their own country ruled by Francesca Findabair.
Did you ever hear the tragedy of Lauren Schmidt the Hissrich?
My advice is to read the books and play the Witcher games because its true the origin whereas The Netflix show is to much of a writers own agendas ignoring the lore brought to the screen.
Make it black and make it gay, pretty much the entire agenda of contemporary writers, and it's boring af.
Have you ever read Sapkowski's books? Because if be so, you would know that even when the dwarves arrived in the lands of the Continent, the gnomes already had small colonies in Mahakam and Tir Tochair. Not to speak about goblins, merpeople, dopplers, hobbits, Vrans and others. Only after another (probably several) thousands of years "2000 years before the arrival of humans" which means the 2000 years before the Conjunction of the Spheres, Seidhe elves arrived on their ships.
Yes. And they also acted like dicks towrds the older races. It was olny after they got their asses kicked by the humans they were all "oh we old races must stick together".
@@richardaubrecht2822 they genocide the lizard people and took their cities, the Aen Elle just trick unicorns into opening gates into other worlds to get slaves, because is canon that elves cannot farm
I only played the 2nd and 3rd game, but I enjoyed the lore in it. Never bought the books, what is best book, and are they available on audible?
I love the blood of elves personally and yeah they’re all on audible, in my country anyways
@@WiseFish U.S.?
@@peterversionone u can find them on youtube i think
th-cam.com/play/PLYAzBRIkMHUJKAyP_6jS3mJLfY36xWDOa.html
You can find some of them on TH-cam and they are indeed on Audible. I would read them in order of course but they are fantastic imo. If you love Geralt and company and love the world and lore then you will love them.
Witcher Lore!! :)
Man, even TH-cam lore fans like you are giving sass to shows and movie directors? You just know those writers messed up when videos like these are made bringing shade on their "writing".
When they don’t want to acknowledge the original material they loose all my respect. Seems Netflix writers just have a snobbyness to them where they think they can make it better or something
@@WiseFish I personally can't fault it entirely on Netflix. They pretty much approve everyone for everything. It's the producers/writers wanting to do their own spin on already established property that's the real issue.
If you're gonna divulge so far from the materials you're basing your story from, you might as well just create your own IP. But they won't because they rely on the coattails of other's success and popularity. And shows how little popularity they believe their "writing" would have had with people if they actually did.
The Witcher is just the biggest and latest victim of this practice lately.
@@djktsjytej sadly, even the upcoming live-action adaptation for The Last of Us may fall victim to this as well, given the downright dismissive takes the showrunner has for video games.
Halo, Resident Evil, Lord of the Rings, the Witcher, Monster Hunter, etc.; these pop culture icons are being handed off to people that have no respect for the source material, too pigheaded to even consider that stories told through mediums they look down on (video games, comics, animated media) are just as effective at delivering compelling narratives as traditional ones.
It's a genuinely sad state to see them in, and quite frankly it's so much safer to ignore any adaptations going forward. We've been burned too often already to trust them with these IPs.
Hrm. Wind's howling.
The Virgin Aen Seidhe vs The Chad Aen Elle.
Thank goodness, damn blood origins
RIP Vesemir.
What Netflix just ignored lore to make absolutely crap episodes? No no nobody would do that right? Oh...wait a minute...
Geralt: SMASH.
Hey great video, the elves deserved better! 🌈
Bloede dh’oine
The dwarves arrived on the continent before the elves and after the gnomes
My violence inhibitors are a joke. No, really. I only keep them enabled because of how funny they are
The portal to the 21 century human world
- its so baffling why when they have such well written and loved lore they decided to instead make up their own nonsense for that netflix crap. They had great stuff right in front of them but just figured they could do better I guess
The True Book & Game Lore aka The Lore. Netflix's tv show is non canon fanfiction.
Great now i want the elves to win
i will never understand why every fantasy writer that is not Tolkien make the elves like this...
Eventually from whats written in the canon, a door was opened (in this case we can assume the non cannon second conjunction at the end of witcher 3) in the world, a large portal several 100 meters tall and wide, which led to another the world. The aen sheide elves from every corner of the world quite literally packed their bags and a massive exodus similiar to the jews fleeing Egypt took place, and in doing so, destroyed all art work and cultural artifacts of their lineage, so no evidence remained of their culture. The elves were to pass to myth and legend, only supposition and if the world of the witcher followed our technological advancements, only DNA tests could prove we onced intermingled with another race before. The aen Sheide would leave forever in their ships, losing many lives in treachorous waters to reach a new world, a fresh start, and all elves, both pure blood and half would follow this fate. So the aen sheide did find peace, but this was only because they had a chance to start again, and took it, leaving the shores they once inhabited and called home....forever....
Finally lol
Yay!!!! Real Witcher, not Netflix imposter garbage!
Peace? No peace...
Flippin' humans! 😢
Quick note from start: as native polish speaker just say "purges/slaughters" insted of "pogroms".
Dlaczego?
@@siejac7894 to tak jakby ktoś chciał powiedzieć "kary" zamiast "samochody", źle brzmi jest niepoprawnie a w obu językach są odpowiednie słowa
@@Riva_Bear Pogrom jest słowem w języku angielskim, zapożyczonym z polskiego.
Can somebody tell me, Are Vampires superior to Elves
The whole script was written out for them, but nope. We want to do it differently. Fml
I hate this one thing about fantasy they always make the elves have much better magic much better weapons much better armour much better everything yet still get dogged on my humanity with no reason as to how even though it should be the elves winning every time
Blood Origins? What's that? Never heard of it, never existed (my head canon). Great video! I hated Origins so much I've resumed playing the game and enjoy it even more than I did at release.
HFY
The elves sound a lot like aboriginal/native folk
Uh... You shouldn't take games into account when talking about lore. They're not canon.
I hope the elves can survive. They did nothing to deserve this. They’re the real victims of human cruelty.
The reason why the first humans were so intolerant against the elves is because the Aen Elle took over the human world by tricking the unicorns and killing almost everyone. (Thats the reason unicorns hate elves and they need Ciri because unicorns won't open another portal for them)
After discovering that they got tricked the unicorns helped the remaining humans to settle in a new world that sadly was inhabited by the Aen Seidhe.
Ofcourse the Aen Seidhe weren't the ones responsible for this genocide but tell that to someone who lost literally everything they knew.
@@erik1925yup! Surprised that wasn’t mentioned in the video. It adds a lot of nuance.
I liked Blood Origin.
There there, take some asprin, you'll get over it :)