more of this type of content please. I can look in the manual to find out what all the buttons and switches do but what I want to learn is how to actually fly.
Dude! Great info! I been wondering how to manage my speed, fuel, and trying to find out best cruise speed and altitude. Seems like I run out of fuel so fast in the Viper.
Corner speed is actually the name for the minimum speed where max instantaneous rate is achieved, used as a guideline for achieving min turn radius. Max sustained rate is achieved at speeds where Ps=0, which I don't recall there being a specific name for other than "best maneuvering speed".
That point about fuel flow/altitude and speed blew my mind. I had no idea it matched based on speed, no matter the altitude. One of your vids was recently recommended to me, very happy to have found this channel!
Thanks once again! I was always confused why i had to push my afterburner to maintain the same speed when at higher alts. i never understood that about true and calc air speed!
What I would really like to see (and which I've found nowhere on YT) is how to climb and maintain speed without dipping into after burner (kind of the portion of the video you edited out to discuss differences in speed readings). So often with my group, I'm tasked with leading navigation, and during the climb no matter how fast we start (at least 400 knots), or how shallow, we STRUGGLE to get to 25,000 ft. We're often hovering at 270 kts or less before we reach that altitude. Weapons stores are usually not that heavy either. Not sure what to do to make climbing less strenuous honestly.
Set the power and pitch for speed. In a nutshell, and going from memory, here is a climb profile you can use with wingmen Full AB t/o, pitch up to put the aircraft FPM about 5 degrees. At 300 kts, mil power. Accelerate to 350 knots. At 350 knots pull the power back about 20% and pitch up to roughly 10 degrees nose up. FTIT temp about 800 degrees, fuel flow in the 9000/lbs range. You want reduced power so your wingmen can stay on your wing without needing afterburner. As you climb, fuel flows and the power produced will drop. Shallow out your climb angle to maintain 350 knots. Going significantly below this speed hurts climb performance. Adjust power to maintain 800 degrees FTIT As you climb through 20k you’ll notice the climb getting real shallow to maintain 350 knots and the Mach number is increasing. Maintain 350 knots (with pitch, leave the power set) until Mach reaches .75 then transition to maintaining .75 Mach and forget about the CAS (airspeed number). This transition should happen in the low 20’s
Your just climbing too fast. Set to mil power after takeoff, climb at 350kn and reduce the climb angle to maintain it until you reach your desired altitude. Remember 25K feet is almost 5 miles high. The air is thin as hell at that altitude. No air, no power. Just be patient and remember real pilots aren't doing unrestricted zoom climbs unless it's for air shows or press flights. If you are delivering warheads on foreheads you have become the bomb truck. Drive the truck efficiently.
Thank you for a clean and nice video. Missing climb but i see you commented that below. One thing i would like to stress, and you are briefly talk about is to not climb too high and get energy starved. Something i see online quite a bit lots of bags, and trying to fly too high with a very draggy load, with the plane hanging on it's ass with a high AoA and the plane just being slow due to the added drag. Standard IRL A2A is only a centerline bag if needed and the Wng bags are standard for A2G configurations that need loitertime over manouverability. And for GS you really don't need bags unless you use what i call concorde technique. Where you use bags to go full AB to around 50k feet for a massive missile range advantage. At that altitude you will have to run full AB, but you will consume about the same as at 30k full mill. Boring strat but safer for new players :D
Great info, subscribed! I've had the F-16 for a bit but the Hornet has been my main ride. Since I got a tip to take curves off the Viper my interest is rekindled. Good plane to learn some of these fundamentals in.
@@erfguuipo8084 It was my first module along with Supercarrier and I've spent enough time in it so I remember most things even if I fly others for a few weeks.
Great Vid with very useful info, just getting back into DCS World after a 12 year gap and the F16 will be my goto jet as i used to fly Falcon 4 in the early 2000's, but i'm teaching myself to fly the Spitfire just now to teach myself how to fly properly before i get into the jets again. I think it's all to easy if you're just getting into flight sims (your young or just watched the new Top Gun Movie) to to jump into a jet in DCS an just use that raw power the jets have to throw yourself around without actually learning about energy management and that in reality throttle controls altutude, and pitch controls speed. Take a few flying lessons in a Cessna and your instructor will teach you that you think throttle is for speed and pitch for altitude but it's actually the other way round in planes, but the jets with all that power teach you some bad habits. Will be watching your other vids and waiting for more liked and Subscibed O7
Awesome information about speeds and fuel management, thank you! One thing I don't know is what is the typical climbing angle and speed after take-off? I want to get to 20k ft, what should my climb and speed be. I just wing it but there is probably standard procedures I am ignorant about.
Speed 350 knots. Set power and reduce the pitch as you climb to maintain that. After 20k feet you’ll notice Mach is creeping up through .7 .. at .75 Mach transition to maintaining Mach in the climb and don’t worry about knots any more. The knots will drop as you continue climbing.
Lemoine, an actual F-16 pilot, would probably disagree with most of what you said regarding the turn rate/speed bleed at supersonic. The F-16 is designed to retain the energy through the turn. You don't want to "dump speed" by normal maneuver. If you want to turn faster, drop your throttle or use another maneuver.
is their a chart for v speeds?? in the hornet you can tell when she wants to fly, in the falcon not so much. I usually rotate around 175kts and climb out at say 350 or greater. having a v speed chart for weights would be fantastic, as I use them and have been the last 30 years..
If any of this is a revelation, read the performance manual. Specifically the B section that uses the GE engine that is in the DCS F16. And I'm not trying to rag on this video; if you're new to sim flying this is especially good and easy to understand. But, if there's a performance manual available for a specific aircraft you're learning/flying, download it and use it. *only download it if it's legal for you. Not recommending you cross the US federal government.
When doing BFM in the f16 should the HUD be set to display CAS or TAS? Which one do I base 430 knot rate speed on since there is a notable difference between the two the higher up you go?
You’ll want to fly with it in the default setting, CAS. TAS and GS are really just useful for checking your performance if you are transiting between locations.
That is a good strategy. You kind of fly it like an airliner, set power between like 85-100% and adjust pitch for speed. say 350 loaded and 375/400 when light and once you reach mach .72/.75 when heavy or .80 when light you pitch for that. And once you cdrop below say 500 or 200 ft/min you level off to have some power reserves.
I Like the viper but six air missles eight would be great allways two short in dog fights harm system now improved can not put a ground weapon on centre line store is a shame just trying out ecm in next few weeks on line kirks hanger
more of this type of content please. I can look in the manual to find out what all the buttons and switches do but what I want to learn is how to actually fly.
Noted, thanks!
The manual sucks, it would be 5000 pages if it actually taught anyting.
I concur, found this 2 years later but still amazing video.
The AoA and Bore Cross to regain speed visual cue references are gold!
Thanks, I’m glad you found it helpful.
Not sure where you suddenly came from but that level of information for sure gets a subscriber.
Thank you for subscribing! I've been around DCS at least 7 years, just finally decided to sit down and put a little effort into TH-cam.
Putting the flight marker on the boresight to get massive speed back during maneuver is a huge take away for from this video. Thank you for sharing.
Man I wish I had this video a long time ago. I mostly figured this out by a long trial and error process. This video is great!
Wow great video. I always have trouble turning and losing air speed
Thank you for another quality upload!
Very interesting indeed, been trying to figure this out on my own.. good to know i wasnt too far off.
Appreciate the compliment and I’m glad you found it worth the time to watch!
Thats some art in piloting :D Good job!
Thank you for your video, it’s very informative and cleared so many questions in my head! Thanks!
Dude! Great info! I been wondering how to manage my speed, fuel, and trying to find out best cruise speed and altitude. Seems like I run out of fuel so fast in the Viper.
Most interesting and very helpful. Thanks.
Love your videos. Small addition to F16 speeds - Glide Speed is @ 7% AoA.
Great tip!
Corner speed is actually the name for the minimum speed where max instantaneous rate is achieved, used as a guideline for achieving min turn radius. Max sustained rate is achieved at speeds where Ps=0, which I don't recall there being a specific name for other than "best maneuvering speed".
Great, no nonsense guide!
Great video! Makes a lot of sense.
This was excellent!!!
Gold nuggets throughout that video. New subscriber here. Thanks!
Quality video! definitely gonna help me with the F-16
That point about fuel flow/altitude and speed blew my mind. I had no idea it matched based on speed, no matter the altitude.
One of your vids was recently recommended to me, very happy to have found this channel!
this was the video I was looking for thank you
Nice tips this is really helpful.
Great content.
Thanks once again! I was always confused why i had to push my afterburner to maintain the same speed when at higher alts. i never understood that about true and calc air speed!
these tips are nutty THANK YOU GREATLY!
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What I would really like to see (and which I've found nowhere on YT) is how to climb and maintain speed without dipping into after burner (kind of the portion of the video you edited out to discuss differences in speed readings). So often with my group, I'm tasked with leading navigation, and during the climb no matter how fast we start (at least 400 knots), or how shallow, we STRUGGLE to get to 25,000 ft. We're often hovering at 270 kts or less before we reach that altitude. Weapons stores are usually not that heavy either. Not sure what to do to make climbing less strenuous honestly.
Set the power and pitch for speed.
In a nutshell, and going from memory, here is a climb profile you can use with wingmen
Full AB t/o, pitch up to put the aircraft FPM about 5 degrees. At 300 kts, mil power. Accelerate to 350 knots.
At 350 knots pull the power back about 20% and pitch up to roughly 10 degrees nose up. FTIT temp about 800 degrees, fuel flow in the 9000/lbs range. You want reduced power so your wingmen can stay on your wing without needing afterburner.
As you climb, fuel flows and the power produced will drop. Shallow out your climb angle to maintain 350 knots. Going significantly below this speed hurts climb performance. Adjust power to maintain 800 degrees FTIT
As you climb through 20k you’ll notice the climb getting real shallow to maintain 350 knots and the Mach number is increasing. Maintain 350 knots (with pitch, leave the power set) until Mach reaches .75 then transition to maintaining .75 Mach and forget about the CAS (airspeed number). This transition should happen in the low 20’s
Your just climbing too fast. Set to mil power after takeoff, climb at 350kn and reduce the climb angle to maintain it until you reach your desired altitude. Remember 25K feet is almost 5 miles high. The air is thin as hell at that altitude. No air, no power. Just be patient and remember real pilots aren't doing unrestricted zoom climbs unless it's for air shows or press flights. If you are delivering warheads on foreheads you have become the bomb truck. Drive the truck efficiently.
thank you, brill😃ient tutorial / explanation
Thank you for a clean and nice video. Missing climb but i see you commented that below.
One thing i would like to stress, and you are briefly talk about is to not climb too high and get energy starved. Something i see online quite a bit lots of bags, and trying to fly too high with a very draggy load, with the plane hanging on it's ass with a high AoA and the plane just being slow due to the added drag.
Standard IRL A2A is only a centerline bag if needed and the Wng bags are standard for A2G configurations that need loitertime over manouverability.
And for GS you really don't need bags unless you use what i call concorde technique. Where you use bags to go full AB to around 50k feet for a massive missile range advantage. At that altitude you will have to run full AB, but you will consume about the same as at 30k full mill. Boring strat but safer for new players :D
Great stuff
Great info, subscribed! I've had the F-16 for a bit but the Hornet has been my main ride. Since I got a tip to take curves off the Viper my interest is rekindled. Good plane to learn some of these fundamentals in.
Why f18 as main ride ??
@@erfguuipo8084 It was my first module along with Supercarrier and I've spent enough time in it so I remember most things even if I fly others for a few weeks.
@@josefwitt9772 but isn't f16 better
@@erfguuipo8084 not for me. I know how to use a decent amount of the Hornet's capability, and carriers are fun.
@@josefwitt9772 but it doesn't have that very cool cbu 105. Also f15 can carry more mavericks wtf?
Great Vid with very useful info, just getting back into DCS World after a 12 year gap and the F16 will be my goto jet as i used to fly Falcon 4 in the early 2000's, but i'm teaching myself to fly the Spitfire just now to teach myself how to fly properly before i get into the jets again. I think it's all to easy if you're just getting into flight sims (your young or just watched the new Top Gun Movie) to to jump into a jet in DCS an just use that raw power the jets have to throw yourself around without actually learning about energy management and that in reality throttle controls altutude, and pitch controls speed. Take a few flying lessons in a Cessna and your instructor will teach you that you think throttle is for speed and pitch for altitude but it's actually the other way round in planes, but the jets with all that power teach you some bad habits.
Will be watching your other vids and waiting for more liked and Subscibed O7
Thanks! I’m glad you found it helpful. Hopefully I didn’t lose people rambling on about true airspeed.
@@FLYGaffer Not at all i think you done a good job explaining the difference between the two.
Awesome information about speeds and fuel management, thank you! One thing I don't know is what is the typical climbing angle and speed after take-off? I want to get to 20k ft, what should my climb and speed be. I just wing it but there is probably standard procedures I am ignorant about.
Speed 350 knots. Set power and reduce the pitch as you climb to maintain that. After 20k feet you’ll notice Mach is creeping up through .7 .. at .75 Mach transition to maintaining Mach in the climb and don’t worry about knots any more. The knots will drop as you continue climbing.
Lemoine, an actual F-16 pilot, would probably disagree with most of what you said regarding the turn rate/speed bleed at supersonic. The F-16 is designed to retain the energy through the turn. You don't want to "dump speed" by normal maneuver. If you want to turn faster, drop your throttle or use another maneuver.
Thank you for the great videos. How long did it take you to become good at flying the F16?
good stuff, just what I needed to know for the Viper. Might help me keep my AI wingmen from running dry too quickly as well 😂
Hey can you tell how you got a fov like that,, i mean the stretched kind wide u have now
is their a chart for v speeds?? in the hornet you can tell when she wants to fly, in the falcon not so much. I usually rotate around 175kts and climb out at say 350 or greater. having a v speed chart for weights would be fantastic, as I use them and have been the last 30 years..
If any of this is a revelation, read the performance manual. Specifically the B section that uses the GE engine that is in the DCS F16. And I'm not trying to rag on this video; if you're new to sim flying this is especially good and easy to understand. But, if there's a performance manual available for a specific aircraft you're learning/flying, download it and use it.
*only download it if it's legal for you. Not recommending you cross the US federal government.
I don’t think I’d get any views or help anyone if I made a video that just said “read the manual” 😄
@@FLYGaffer There you go simplifying things again lol
When doing BFM in the f16 should the HUD be set to display CAS or TAS? Which one do I base 430 knot rate speed on since there is a notable difference between the two the higher up you go?
You’ll want to fly with it in the default setting, CAS. TAS and GS are really just useful for checking your performance if you are transiting between locations.
So at what speed should I be climbing with a full load out???
I think I missed the part talking about climb. I've always followed 0.66 or 0.77 mach for best climb.
That is a good strategy. You kind of fly it like an airliner, set power between like 85-100% and adjust pitch for speed. say 350 loaded and 375/400 when light and once you reach mach .72/.75 when heavy or .80 when light you pitch for that. And once you cdrop below say 500 or 200 ft/min you level off to have some power reserves.
subscribed, One question what's button to switch between C/T air speeds?
Gaffer showed the switch at 5:26. It's next to the flight stick on the HUD control panel. 3-stage switch to select between CAS, TAS, and Ground Speed.
Yo Graffer, whats your monitor please.
3440x1440 msi curved 34" monitor
yo Graffer homie, thanks, and keep making those amazing videos! GG
i found that F16 is more fuel efficently in DCS than F18
I Like the viper but six air missles eight would be great allways two short in dog fights harm system now improved can not put a ground weapon on centre line store is a shame just trying out ecm in next few weeks on line kirks hanger
True air speed is relative the air and is not ground speed. True air speed TAS plus wind speed is ground speed.
yeah that's what he said 🤔
I never use after burners untill I need to. This plane sucks so much when burning. More so than f18
With the way you've explained speed at 7:15 I take it that you're not a real pilot ?
If you could point out what specifically is incorrect I’d be happy to take a look
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