ALQ-184 (Short/Long) ECM PODs Quick Overview
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 2 ส.ค. 2024
- This is a quick overview of the new ALQ-184 Short/Long ECM pods and how to use them.
0:00 - Intro
0:32 - Overview
1:21 - Required Keybinds
1:34 - Self Protection Steps
4:53 - Self Protect Demo
5:38 - Noise ECM Steps
6:11 - Outro
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As a former ECM maintenance guy please never turn it off while you're flying. You will probably damage it. And you're right I can't tell you how anything works
There are public documents on the pods in the game AFAIK.
When a pilot would coldsoak a pod the shift he brought it to always got something out of it (beer, pizza, etc) because they knew we would be upset.
@@PebelWasTaken i think he means he can't explain the frequencies or how the the process works. What's in the sim is public info or the devs guess on how it works. (I have not looked at what's in the game. This is just MY guess)
Why not. Stop holding secrets.
@@yyorophff786 bro we don't want no classified documents being leaked
Dude, they need the hire you for the voice overs for the Viper training missions. Also you have the best Viper tutorials.
Thanks man. I appreciate it.
@@BogeyDope th-cam.com/video/f6jQaxyaRCw/w-d-xo.htmlsi=CERXLVLT7nFKAu1w
Ecm Switch in pos 1 gives the radar priority, so you can use AMRAAMs. Pos 2 gives jamming priority, which will disable your radar and the jamming will be stronger.
I wonder if ED has coded that into the sim.
@@BogeyDope it has at least coded in the radar priority as on pos 2 radar switches off straight away
@@harrio7793 yeah I just tested it and found the same.
@@BogeyDope Do you know If jamming strength is increased?
@@Maverickf20 I have not tested this. I would have to setup a series of SAM radars and test each with position 1 and then again with Position 2 and figure that out. Maybe in a future video???
My 4 favorite F-16s sounds
1. Counter
2. Altitude Altitude
3. Missile launch warning
4. Chaff/Flare
Wait until they add the handoff prf tones... th-cam.com/video/nItalc34GY0/w-d-xo.html this is pure F-16 ASMR heaven
Lol I can hear the voice as i read
why did i read this in the f16 voice😂
The production quality of these! So good man keep it up :)
Seriously underrated channel. Thanks for the great content!
Great tutorial easy to understand and clear information keep up the good work
Underrated! This channel throws out far better tutorials than all the other DCS youtubers. Thank you
Former EW Maintenance troop as well. There is a big difference unconfirmed information and confirmed information when it comes to dealing with classified material. Someone might actually have the right information, or wrong information, but as soon as someone actually cleared for that information says it is right or it is wrong, then they have crossed a line. I learned the 184 in Tech School, but ended up working a much different system when I got assigned. Good stuff!
Lot of knowledge in this video and more in the comment section. Glad to be a sub in your channel, thank you and i appreciate your work
Been flying the Viper since Falcon 3.0, and never even imagined they had multiple jamming pods.
Really wish we'd make a generational jump with jamming and declassify at least the 4th Gen stuff.
Really feels like an entire WORLD of military flight we aren't currently engaging in.
This stuff gives such massive advantage it is kept more underwraps than stealth tech. It has so many applications it will probably be declassified if everyone has the knowhow already.
Great video. Love your work.
Very interesting and well shown. Thanks!
The best ECM video I've seen.
That intro is hilarious, I've watched it a few times already lol
the way "counter" sounds is so smooth
That intro was priceless.
Great video. Subscribed!
based on the leaks from the war thunder forums, we may yet know what those buttons actually do on the ecm panel haha
The jar of jam into the dish lol. Great video, I want to say the constant xmit of the radar is referred to CPS or Constant Power Saturation although I could be mistaken.
You clearly haven’t seen the film Space Balls. It is a must watch. Drop what you’re doing and watch it.
2:32 please refer to the BMS documentation (version 4.37 update 2) it explains the ECM in detail (not so classified). Maybe when you read this comment, DCS has already implemented ECM as in BMS too (both try to become better ... which is very good).
Your channel explains everything in such an easy way, that it should be promoted by DCS directly
Thumbs up for the intro alone. You really are a spaceball, you know that?
جزاك الله خيرا شيخنا الكريم
Brilliant intro ❤😂🎉
Would be so cool of DCS included a Growler. But if they did that it might makes things a bit too easy.
I hope they add in functionality for carrying the 3 pods. I got all excited when I saw the long pod and the ability to carry 3 of them but when I tested it made no difference lol
Also a note, POS 3 active jamming seems much stronger than the 2 self protection modes. Set up an SA-5 since it has the longest range, in SPM with the jammer set as priority the site would still lock and launch at me at around 50nm. In POS 3 you can fly directly at it, it will sort of lock at 22nm but will never launch a missile and you can pass right over the site
Yeah I may test effectiveness of each position in a future video
Every Radar has a burn though distance. A point where the Radars power can see through the jamming. Pods are small and can't match the power of a large ground based Radar system once it gets too close.
Imagine an E/A-18G Growler as a dcs module. Best sead mission you will ever fly..
I think about that every day. They NEED to add the E/A-18G. It is an essential tool for any SEAD/DEAD mission involving Naval aircraft. No F/A-18 flight would be without a Growler irl so not having them in game is a huge setback.
also might help
When XMIT is in Position 1 we have Radar Priority. When in Radar Priority and the jammer is transmitting and ownship radar and HARM/HTS performance is reduced by 40%. - > this is called SPJ or self protect jamming.
To activate SPJ, set CMDS to semi (or auto, not recommended) and press cms aft short. CMS aft will set the system from standby to active and will automatically transmit when you are locked by a radar. Pressing cms forward will launch the selected cmds profile. The system will go back to standby mode, each time a radar had been jammed, and you have to give consent to the jammer to standby mode.
When XMIT is in Position 2 we have ECM Priority. When in ECM Priority, the FCR and HARM/HTS are silenced unless an AIM-120 is the active weapon. In this case, it behaves the same as Position 1
Position 3 is active jamming. Set CMDS to man mode and press cms aft to turn on or cms right turn off. When activated it will turn off the radar "NO RAD" on the hud.
amber S - standby mode CMS right
green A - active mode CMS aft
blue T - transmitting
found on dcs forums. goodluck! o7
hahaha good intro!
جزاكم الله خيرا اخي الكريم
The electrical power required by the ALQ184-SP electronic jamming pod is 9.1KVA.
The Schwartz is strong with you.
"It's classified, I don't have access to that"
*War Thunder players have joined the chat*
We have DTOS now!!
I wonder how much time does a search, and track radar need to get enough time on your Course, speed, and altitude? Even tho the lock has been broken. I wonder if you would have to change direction repeatedly.
I'm thinking about doing some experiments
For what should I use the short and for what should I use the long pod?
In real life, the short only works for Medium and High Band radar, and the long is for Medium, High, and Low band radars. In the sim, however, I haven't noticed a difference in capability yet. This may change, however, in the future.
Great vid, thank you. What do you use for headtracking? Very smooth, if it's trackir, can you upload your profile somewhere? Thx.
Yes TrackIR. I'm not sure if I can upload files to TH-cam
What setting on Track IR you use?
@@BogeyDope you can put it in the user files on dcs website if that helps
How do you @ people in YT comments?
I recommend not using someone else’s track ir profile. It takes a minute to make your own and it will be 1000 times better than someone else’s profile. Reason is you move differently and you have a different monitor setup.
This intro xD
Do we have any current intel on this?
does ALQ stand for: Adaptive Linear Quadratic ???
so ik this is a year old, but i'm having trouble with noise barrage mode in the short pod. i turn all the switches on, master arm, xmit 3, man knob (because semi-auto engages SPJ mode), CMS aft, nothing.
following chuck's guide too. help?
and 1.5 years later, EW hasn't moved at all.
But to be fair, the development of the F-4E is looking to expand the EW model of the game as a whole, beyond just the RWR in the Phantom. As to whether or not that takes another year from this post (July 2023) is another question.
We can only hope!
For a more advanced explanation watch the bms ecm tutorial from aviation plus,he goes into a lot more depth. Really quick explanation tho ,thanks bogey!
So if I had ecm on a enemy plane and broke the lock but it got a fox three off at me, is there anything I can do to break the missiles internal lock?
So always take long?
If there’s a flight of homies but only one has ECM, does that flood overload setting cover the boys or allow you to be a diversion?
Will one 184 work to cover a small flight of 2 F16 or does each plane need one
It depends on how close the aircraft are to each other. Closer they are, the more one aircrafts pod could help another.
What are the requirements for this sim? If this is gonna be in the sim I want to make sure I can play this. I used to maintain these and would love to see if they got it right!
Since most of the documentation on the ALQ are classified, I doubt it. The System Requirements are listed here. www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/en/downloads/world/beta/
If you are planning to play on Multiplayer servers (I highly recommend getting in touch with a private group and flying multiplayer), you will absolutely need the 32GB of RAM.
@@BogeyDope awesome! Thanks for the info!
Any difference to the new 131 pod?
Currently, I have not seen a difference. They are still developing ECM.
Being currently a member of the air force that works on alq-184-v11 aka the long pod without going into detail the only real control panel for the pod is the second one your cmds doesn't have any controlling factor to the pod irl. As well your assumption about the buttons being the different bands is wrong I can't go into why it's wrong but just seeing them almost have it right bothers me a bit.
that what it feels like on the enemy side
Can I curse? DAMN I FKIN LOVE THE F16!
Try f18 . It'd pretty fun too.
@@yieovgwqxaz7912 way ahead of you that was the 2nd module I bought
@@reklusivegamer but I can't slave maverick to tgp it'd frustrating on f16
@@yieovgwqxaz7912 yeah its a pain, but make sure you're using the right mavs
@@reklusivegamer Apparently you need to align it by locking with tgp then with maverick and press BSGT on the MFCD or something.
lock is not breaking from sa 6... any suggestions?
Distance is a big factor. Closer you are to the radar, the harder it is to break the lock....but, it is a game, so it could just be a bug.
Lol haven’t seen space balls in years
It popped up on my yt suggestions awhile back. Pretty sure it was free "with ads".
Does she say counter or contact when a radar scans you ?
"Counter."
@@BogeyDope why does she say that. Why don't she say you're being locked .lol what does counter even mean 🤔
@@yyorophff786 it's an audio cue to let you know countermeasures are being used or need to be used if you don't have it set to auto.
@@BogeyDope but counter measure don't stop radar lock lol.
@@yyorophff786 (ECM) Electronic Countermeasures and chaff do. Which is why I love this thing.
Raspberry jam...there's only one person who would give me the raspberry jam..._____________ ! (fill in the blank)
hey where did you see that ECM dev was going to step up this year?
havent heard that and its great news cuz atm its dogshit lol
Matt Wagner posted it in the forums. I think he also mentioned it in his ecm video
@@BogeyDope cool man thanks I'll take a look. Good video
You could buy a 90usd digital plane, but you couldn't buy a 60usd physical mic?