Feminism - Words of the World
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- Discussing the origins of feminism, especially the word. Some of the discussion deals especially with feminists in France.
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No one actually burned their bras... that was mostly just a dramatization.
It shocks me that in France, UK, USA and other democracies where women have moved forward so much, they still are appended the name of their husband, just like if they became the property of men and should loose their own personality, give up themselves, when going into marriage.
Also, it's nice to hear the different interpretations of feminism discussed. It's infuriating sometimes, trying to talk about it when most people seem to have a set opinion of what it means and refuse to accept any other interpretations. But there are so many different forms of feminism! But no, there are guys who have decided that feminism means the oppression of men and will fight you forever if you defend feminism. And there are women who'll call you misogynist if you defend men in any way.
@NibTV1 No word of a lie, when I read your comment it was 10.31 here in the UK too. Mind = blown.
I really liked this video, the extra time lets us go into more depth.
This was really interesting! I didn't even know much about the French side of the movement. It was really interesting, especially about the whole issue of the fear of women voting in favour of the church. And the idea that things happen at different speeds in different cultures. I've argued about this a LOT. My sister-in-law loves to rant about what an anti-feminist country France is despite never even having been there and not speaking French. I think she just has something against France.
I agree, but still doesn't change the fact that by many definitions it is.
I am a computer engineer by my profession, but those videos are just plain awesome. Why have you abandoned this channel, Brady? Is linguistics way too boring for you? :D
I think it's difficult for this particular double standard to go away without feminism. As the prof said, feminism is multifaceted and my feminism definitely is about equality between sexes; not just women to have the same rights as men but vice versa, to work for the betterment of all genders to express themselves freely. Because patriarchy also constraints men (that men are the batterers and women the batterees). Working these out also help men and that's what feminism is about to me.
OK !! Ya did the "warts" and good examples too !!
I'm starting to like this channel more and more, although the special effects on peiodic videos are better.
That's without taking into account that men are far less likely to report abuse, and that the definition for domestic abuse has become so generalized (including things such name calling and withholding sex) that the figures have become absurdly inflated.
*cont* I said that was sexist and my parents responded trying to "explain" how the rule was actually fair, by telling me "girls aren't as strong as boys and can't fight the same". I then explained how not everybody fits the gender role, and presented other counter-arguments (I am actually very weak for a boy my age, so this was really degrading to me). They then just said "Girls aren't meant to be hit" without debunking any of my arguments. Actually, it's mostly my dad who did that. I was mad.
Very interesting and well-handled without unnecessary slams against any other society. The french history of women's rights had me puzzled but the church angle does feel right somehow. My Jesuit brother and I had to tell my very Catholic mother that voting for a politician who was not pro-life (anti-abortion) was OK because it was simply not addressing the status quo which is choice for women in the US. Looking at her impulse to vote with the church here, it surely goes double for the French.
this man articulates like an ak-47
"I don't need science and studies to tell me about things that I have seen first hand" said the homoeopath.
My biggest concern with feminism is, will they stop when things are equal or will they keep fighting for more and more until men are second class citizens?
with female graduation rates from college being higher than men in the US for most of my lifetime I am concerned. Half the women I know think they are equal to men and the other half thing they are better, what is to stop them from doing to men what men did to their grandmothers?
The one thing I like about the right wingers over the lefties is that they only are condescending when talking about religion and not everything else.
I said over-correction not overregulation as in there are more programs designed to help girls learn better than their are programs to help boys.
In a equal system girls would still outperform boys in school, on average, since they tend to be more still and easier to teach.
A "masculinist" some call it. I label myself as an MRA, (men's rights advocate) or some call MRM (men's rights movement). If you are interested in what complaints men have about sexism, I reccomend the youtube channels theignoredgender and manwomanmyth.
We want more videos :(
Which men? In general woman around 20 or so have a much higher sex drive then men. To assume that withholding sex is a form of abusive is to imply that rape isn't abuse but more so a form of liberation from abuse. Which itself is extremely negative.
Ramon Suarez, as far as I can tell, this is a fairly minor point that isn't particularly holding women back much, if at all. The current name changing thing seems to be more of a holdover from old traditions, rather than a current day indication of property. Please correct me if I am wrong.
One of the biggest (if not THE) problems of documenting domestic violence is the idea that patriarchy promotes, that men are the perpetrators while women are the victims. So yes, victimization may be becoming more gender-equal but many men find it difficult to report. Patriarchy expects men to be strong and aggressive and being a victim of violence by women no less, is seen as something to ridicule, somehow unmasculine. This is why reports of domestic violence is so very skewed and unreliable.
er, I haven't. And my point was that the people who actually deal with these cases probably know better and understand what actual abuse is and perhaps you don't. Also, I assume many men experience and have complained about these types of abuse, so this is really unrelated to anything I've said before.
Yeah, but that's simply cause the cases of domestic violence against women are way more frequent, so it's a larger problem numberwise.
It's like Fathers For Justice, women aren't doing similar campaigns because in most custody trials they win, it's a much more common problem for men than women.
I've also argued a lot about the Muslim feminism, particularly about the whole headscarf issue. I find it idiotic how we westerners get so hung up on the hijab when there are so much more important issues. I'd even say that the hijab is a cultural thing that we have no business criticizing. I agree that it's an offensive idea that women have to cover themselves to prevent male perversion but I can also understand why Muslimas may see the western over-sexualized woman as similarly offensive.
Er, I'm a feminist and I'm kinda on your side. Well, I don't think you should have hit her back, not because she's a girl, simply that all violence is wrong, but otherwise you're right. You should have just gone to the teacher instead, nobody has the right to hurt someone else.
And I don't think you understand what feminism is about as I'm pretty sure the majority of feminists I know would have called your parents sexist for saying that.
@wordsoftheworld why have you not uploaded a vid in a year
It is 10:31 in Hawaii and I learn something.
THANK YOU! You have no idea how frustrating it is for white feminists to want to ~liberate us~ from our hijab. Not all of us wear it by force, not all of us are oppressed, but that doesn't attract any media attention so no one cares. You give me hope.
Who is the man speaking? I'd would to hear more of what he has to say.
What I'm trying to say is this: gender inequality is much more complicated than just writing "equal rights" in some law. The whole society has to change. We all subconsciously raise our sons and daughters differently but you expect them to behave the same? This is a very long process and we're learning and spotting new problems while we go. With you standing up and shouting "It's all over, go home, folks!" ... I can't but doubt your motives.
Uhm ok, you convinced me. Until now I thought it to be a problem that boys perform worse in schools but as you say, they have equal rights so they should just get their shit together and learn. If they expect anything to be given to them then they don't deserve it. After all, the patriarchy is dead or dying but the battle of the sexes is well alive and if you want anything for your side, you just have to take it before *they* do.
I believe in gender equality. Therefore I will call myself a masculist. I expect it not to offend anyone. Does that not seem absurd?
Yeah, it's called "backlash".
I'm not sure about the legal definition in Canada, but for many organizations which collect domestic abuse statistics it is included.
More videos please Brady!!!
In short, intense bursts of ballistic fury?
I believe in equal rights for all, but could never call myself a feminist.
damnit Brady we need more words!
I miss learning words...
I am upset that I will live most of my life in the anti man backlash to the ten if not hundreds of thousands or years of male control.
Saying that I should be fine with men being treated badly is the same as a man a hundred years ago saying that women should be ok with how they were treated.
I know it will get there and there isn't anything I can do, but I still have the right to be pissed off about my place in history.
Are we discussing Feminism or Feminist? Are these not two different words?
wonderful video! thank you! :D
Did you know that Islam let Women Vote 1400 years ago, and they voted.
That is why I am a Muslim
That's odd. Last time I checked assumption wasn't evidence.
3:31
Looks like some other dude's hand comes into the frame to scratch his head for him.
Sorry my fault i missed the point that in Lebanon women and men can't vote in national legislative. While mens are obligated to vote local elections. And no women there don't have more freedom than in US. By the way US is not proper country to show how equal sociality can be... But they can only vote for men... Cheers
*cont* Until this double standard goes away, I am not in the least bit going to support feminism. I do believe in equal rights. But I can never call myself a feminist. It is far to biased and one sided. Just take a look at domestic violence commities, "battered women" "violence against women" "men who hit women" etc. It pisses me off.
Not in the UK (caada.org.uk).
It's obviously harmful to both sexes and is a huge problem for many men too, but, especially when it comes to deaths caused by domestic abuse and repeated abuse, women are considerably more likely to be victims.
Mind you, I do think domestic abuse victim support groups etc should definitely cater for both sexes.
I don't need science and studies to tell me about things that I have seen first hand. I went through the educational system not all that long ago, I see the effects of politics just walking around in my own town.
If you want to believe what you are told rather than what you see, then fine, I can't stop you. People like you have propped up every government in history both good and bad.
I will continue to think for myself and question authority.
Go look at the criteria for domestic abuse for yourself on the website you linked if don't believe me. It's defined not only as physical, but emotional, verbal, and financial. You'd be hard pressed to find someone who wouldn't be identified as having experienced domestic abuse.
the mathematician fourier? or a different one?
OMG! Here in Brazil (randomly?), the intro ad was for Dove Men Care.
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I don't have command enough of Portuguese, but the video was pretty clear: it is horrifying for a man to have 'girly' hair, so don't use 'girly' hair care products.
Taken as a parody of advertising targeting women, it is pretty effective at showing how dehumanizing typical advertising is. Taken as a serious ad for the product at hand, it is cringeworthy to watch before a discussion of the word 'feminism'.
@guppypal And that is why the actual movement can't make progress. Because of generalization and stereotyping that causes people not to take diplomatic feminists seriously.
Actually, domestic violence is roughly equal among the sexes.
@MissKitty88 Wow! I didn't know that!
Lebanon, United Arab Emirates, Saudi Arabia, Brunei yeap
Yeah, your anti-democratic sentiments notwithstanding, things might still be more complicated than you think. Usually I'm only condescending when I feel that someone has very strong opinions on a matter that he has done little research on. In your case so far: gender studies and control theory.
Excuse me I don't understand you.
If you think feminism should cut out the man-hatred, then support Tom Martin's lawsuit v LSE's Gender Institute. Watch the video on youtube - and donate to the legal fighting fund.
And do you want an equal system or not? And if you believe that in such a system girls would still perform better, who tells you that our system isn't equal already? I still doubt your science and you did nothing to show that you have the background to qualify such a judgment.
it's when men want to be rich men.
United Arab Emirates is a group of monarchies. not democratic.
I highly doubt your science here because "overregulation" was never among the possible reasons girls are better in school I heard of and it's not a closed case anyways AFAIK but in any case, control theory is a research topic for a reason so I also doubt you've figured it all out by yourself already.
Rule of thumb: whenever you think everybody in charge is just too dumb, things might in fact just be more complicated than you thought. That's not to say that there are no dumb people in charge.
My main problem is the fact that women are allowed to hit men but not the other way around. I remember back five years ago in fourth grade when a girl kept constantly hitting me in school, and I hit her back. She told the teacher, but I never got in trouble because she did hit me first. I went home to my parents and told them, and that's when I found out about this double standard. They weren't mad at me, they just stated "Don't do it in the future". *cont*
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well then again I guess it can still mean that but that also means feminists are way off
I Think you are extremely wrong.
You just picked some Arab countries and you say they don't let them to vote.
Lebanon is more of a free country than the US women over there just google it.
UAE is a very democratic Country also I hate its policies and the SA the same.
When they let them elect the Caliphate the head of the Muslim country, women had the choice to say who they wanted especially the very first 4 Caliphs and Oman ben Abdol Azeez
Feminism is horrible. Just horrible.