Man, they should've released that dust extractor the same time as their track saw. Guarantee it would've sold more people on both, especially if you're not in the M18 line yet.
Good morning, sir! Thanks for taking the time to produce & share this video. I’m loving the saw horses & work table with the bench dog top. I appreciate you. Have a blessed Sunday.
IF they make the table with the dog holes, I will absolutely buy one. “Take my money” Milwaukee!! I’m not really a Pack-out user, but I do have the track saw in a pack-out, so this could make the start of a whole pack-out build-out for me. Including the wall system. C’mon Milwaukee!!!
Just recently found your channel as i'm wanting to get into some wood working. Lots of helpful info. More importantly, I noticed you are in my hometown! I'm from Monticello but now living in Fayetteville. Looking forward to going down the rabbit hole of watching your videos.
Thank you for this info. I use all my battery operated tools are Milwaukee so this was very helpful. Like you I got a few packout items that I have hung on my wall
I have a DeWalt work table like the last one and it's great. It has dog holes too. The second to last one with the dog holes looks amazing and I'll probably get one of those too convenient the DeWalt I have. I have a bunch of pack out so it'll be nice to have the synergy.
Seems like a video like this would be a good feeler gauge for companies to test customer response to a potential future product. TH-cam channels with a big and faithful subscriber base,such as yours, seem like taking the test group straight out to the potential future customers. Also might build hype around a future product.
Milwaukee will have one more customer for worktable #3 (perhaps more than 1), and also work table #4. Thanks for digging this out. Dust extractor? Hmm. I may need to add to my Festool Midi.
i definitely like the table idea, they should try and have it connect to the packout rolling tool box. but if not they should try and make it compact and small as possible so it wont take much room, like slim enough you can put it behind the seats in the truck.
Backpack is cool. What I'm sorely missing is a mileaukee elctric screwdriver 2.0 that works with 4 and 8V archtecture power and is compatible with current red lithium single batteries and 12V compact batteries. I've got so many of them, I use single red lithium batteries only for lights, which is only used occasionally. I use a screwdriver more frequently. Would be nice to be able to use those batteries for tools too, not just lights.
I emailed a couple reps about a mobile workbench that could work with the packout system about a year ago. Send me my check lol. The dog hole one seems to be the best. Or the suitcase style one.
I built a DeWalt scroll saw to scale off talent drawings they had the pivot points marked I used 3/16 stainless rod as pivots where bearings were required, the motion worked great but I never completed it and ended up getting the real thing. It was fun though. I tried doing the same with a Stressless chair (price of a used car) they didn't have enough info for me to build it. There was a zero gravity chair on the sketchup warehouse with full details I might try but it's over complicated.
Really hope that router technology can be further developed to be used on all sorts of routers. We dont think about it much, but routers are super dangerous and can really mess you up. Just hope they dont pull a sawstop with the patent.
all of those tables look like awesome work space solutions, i would love a high weight capacity table (100+ lbs) that fits onto my standard packout. it would solve the issue that i have with the packout table top because i can't use the table top in my configuration to do much because i can't access the boxes below it with things sitting on top of the packout.
Really want a New Packout bottom rolling box that opens from the front so I don’t have to un stack all of my boxes to retrieve tools from the bottom box.
That backpack that lets people attach their packout boxes to will be a big success for people who have to work out off the grid, or forest, desert, or fields. I see it being of particular use by forest rangers, US Forest Service, police, etc. It opens a new market for Milwaukee.
Lots of cool ideas in those pending products. I wonder what the noise output, heat profile and longevity of the dual-power type dust extractor will be. I've gone through 1 1/2 shop vacs pulling dust through a cyclone separator (second looks pretty rough), and if the machine looks like a good enough upgrade, I'm interested. At the very least it would be nice to have more competition for Festool, 3M and so forth to help fight inflation on tool prices.
Thank u . I'm a grandmother of 12 and had back surgery so I puddle in the basement with building small things . I watch all your videos. So thank u again
Nice finds! Some of these may actually end up in Ryobi's hands as I just checked the patent number on one of my Ryobi HP batteries and it came back to Milwaukee Electric Tool Corporation. TTI prob just patents stuff under the Milwaukee name.
Not sure if you have seen but MetaboHPT/HIKOKI have a 36v dust extractor on wheels which can do AC or DC so... they beet them to it. Also not sure if you just don't have them yet in the US but Festool have both the CTLC and CTMC midi dust extractor full size cordless and with wheels...
Eh? Nothing I really, but the router sensor would be cool. I’ve never dropped one, but if I did, I do a quick dance trying to get away from it. A spinning bit hitting the toes would be a bad day. Thanks for the research on these! Whoever put together the 3d modeling from the patent drawings did a nice job! I can’t imagine you found those while searching patents.
I like what you’re saying, but I do not understand why they don’t start adding Bluetooth technology to some of their tools, so they can talk to each other
There is a chip that can sense orientation in the X,Y,and Z axis. This can also detect falls, like on your cell phone, I’m sure that’s what Milwaukee may looking at. The chip cost $1.00.
the chip is a one thing. the other one is how to stop 20+k spm engine momentarily (like a sawstop tool does). or you can easily route your leg or leg fingers a bit) i think after that it would be a replacement of an engine
@@musonius.x the chip on a board that controls the power to the engine would probably be what they do. It's cheap for them, probably under $5. But knowing these companies they'll add $100 or more to everything they incorporate it into
Good excuse to use on my wife! "But honey, no one, NO ONE has EVER seen these tools! Not even Milwaukee knew they existed! This one is called a...wait for it...a 'power drill'. Incredible, right?!?" 🤣🤣🤣
You can 3d print them! A patent only prevents production without a license but doesn't stop personal use. Print away! Also anything that already has a model in the public space will be unpatentable due to prior art.
While the tool reviews are nice I really miss your woodworking videos. Will you be posting any woodworking videos anytime soon? That is why I subscribed to your channel.
@@731Woodworks yeah my plan is to flush mounted to the ceiling basically the top of the unit will be mounted directly to the ceiling I don't have a lot of overhead height so I'm hoping that would help
Unless Milwaukee is entirely creating these using robots, blind people or blindfolded people I suspect they have been seen. Seriously, though, patents don't mean much at all. It's best to imagine patents as fantasy products or ideas on the whiteboard in a brainstorming session. As tempting as it is to dig into the patents for the future, if you watch the history of TH-cam videos with people saying what a company is releasing based on patents they found, you'll see a history of mostly never released products. In the corporate world, there's a strong incentive to create patents just to have them without any interest in making them. Big companies use them as a threat of mutually assured destruction vs patents of opposing companies. At major companies I worked at, the R&D product team would often only have the ideas for patents and a non-product team would do most of the work to make the patent.
Makita has a hepa 36v extractor what do you mean Milwaukee will have the only double battery extractor unless your saying that because the makita doesn’t perform well then I’d agree with you 😂
My bet is that they come out with one or two of the tables but not more. They'd be competing with themselves, which isn't all bad, but there is too much similarity in some of those. BTW, patents are a funny things. The description of the invention means virtually nothing. You have to read the "claims" section to understand what is being patented. There isn't much here that hasn't been done before, except it's been done with others' accessories. I can't see anything worth patenting that wouldn't be easily circumvented, except the particular Milwaukee mounts which, I'm sure, have already been patented.
Not a fan of the way those tables look. Multiple pivot points and no visual angle bracing. Unless they were hidden in your visuals they’re probably non existent. I get they’re probably “light duty” but they won’t end up in my tool selection.
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Man, they should've released that dust extractor the same time as their track saw. Guarantee it would've sold more people on both, especially if you're not in the M18 line yet.
The break on the router is something that has been needed for a long time. Milwaukee is next level
Out of all of these, I’m liking the fold up work tables.
I never would have thought to look up patents to see what’s coming out soon... pretty cool, thanks Matt!
A patent search is hardcore. Thanks for sharing.
Good morning, sir! Thanks for taking the time to produce & share this video. I’m loving the saw horses & work table with the bench dog top. I appreciate you. Have a blessed Sunday.
Thanks 👍
Very very nice touch on the 3D animation, that's definitely all you! Nobody in the tools space is doing that.
(So far as I can tell)
Very nice!
Thanks Kevin!
IF they make the table with the dog holes, I will absolutely buy one. “Take my money” Milwaukee!! I’m not really a Pack-out user, but I do have the track saw in a pack-out, so this could make the start of a whole pack-out build-out for me. Including the wall system. C’mon Milwaukee!!!
I'm still more into the idea of the Bora Centipede for a portable bench.
Just recently found your channel as i'm wanting to get into some wood working. Lots of helpful info. More importantly, I noticed you are in my hometown! I'm from Monticello but now living in Fayetteville. Looking forward to going down the rabbit hole of watching your videos.
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Thanks for watching!
Thank you for this info. I use all my battery operated tools are Milwaukee so this was very helpful. Like you I got a few packout items that I have hung on my wall
I have a DeWalt work table like the last one and it's great. It has dog holes too. The second to last one with the dog holes looks amazing and I'll probably get one of those too convenient the DeWalt I have. I have a bunch of pack out so it'll be nice to have the synergy.
I like that backpack idea and the work table
Seems like a video like this would be a good feeler gauge for companies to test customer response to a potential future product. TH-cam channels with a big and faithful subscriber base,such as yours, seem like taking the test group straight out to the potential future customers. Also might build hype around a future product.
Milwaukee will have one more customer for worktable #3 (perhaps more than 1), and also work table #4. Thanks for digging this out. Dust extractor? Hmm. I may need to add to my Festool Midi.
Metabo HPT has dual power on ALL their 36v tools. Shop Vac, Table Saw, Miter saw, all the way down to drills and drivers.
You are going above and beyond mate! Amazing thank you
Thank you for sharing some great information
that dust extractor is a must buy for me if they come to market. I have been waiting to get the festool one.
Wish they would make a rolling table saw and miter saw stands. Like the new mxfuel pipe threader.
i definitely like the table idea, they should try and have it connect to the packout rolling tool box. but if not they should try and make it compact and small as possible so it wont take much room, like slim enough you can put it behind the seats in the truck.
Right now, I've got Rigid pack out gear. They keep this up I may have to go red. Enjoy your Sunday Matt!
Ha ha ha....I am just NOW notice the pair of handcuffs on your wall there. :)
Matt, I have been a follower for quite some time. The reviews are great but i really miss your build videos.
Very neat look into the future! Nice innovative video concept, Matt!
Thanks!
Backpack is cool. What I'm sorely missing is a mileaukee elctric screwdriver 2.0 that works with 4 and 8V archtecture power and is compatible with current red lithium single batteries and 12V compact batteries. I've got so many of them, I use single red lithium batteries only for lights, which is only used occasionally. I use a screwdriver more frequently. Would be nice to be able to use those batteries for tools too, not just lights.
I emailed a couple reps about a mobile workbench that could work with the packout system about a year ago. Send me my check lol. The dog hole one seems to be the best. Or the suitcase style one.
Haha that first thing the backpack mount, gives me vibes of Death Stranding, with 100 boxes mounted to his back.
That's some cool stuff to look forward to.
I want the dust extractor. I will get rid of every tstak I have and convert to pack out if they come out with the dual mower pack out dust extractor
I built a DeWalt scroll saw to scale off talent drawings they had the pivot points marked I used 3/16 stainless rod as pivots where bearings were required, the motion worked great but I never completed it and ended up getting the real thing. It was fun though. I tried doing the same with a Stressless chair (price of a used car) they didn't have enough info for me to build it. There was a zero gravity chair on the sketchup warehouse with full details I might try but it's over complicated.
Really hope that router technology can be further developed to be used on all sorts of routers. We dont think about it much, but routers are super dangerous and can really mess you up. Just hope they dont pull a sawstop with the patent.
all of those tables look like awesome work space solutions, i would love a high weight capacity table (100+ lbs) that fits onto my standard packout. it would solve the issue that i have with the packout table top because i can't use the table top in my configuration to do much because i can't access the boxes below it with things sitting on top of the packout.
Good Morning Matt~ Always appreciate the great info!
Morning!
Sawhorses and portable work table are very appealing. Milwaukee continuing to add to their already extensive tool lineup.
I hope that dust extractor comes out, especially with a packout mount on the top
Really want a New Packout bottom rolling box that opens from the front so I don’t have to un stack all of my boxes to retrieve tools from the bottom box.
Makita has dual power source. The xgt extractor is also a proper extractor
That backpack that lets people attach their packout boxes to will be a big success for people who have to work out off the grid, or forest, desert, or fields. I see it being of particular use by forest rangers, US Forest Service, police, etc. It opens a new market for Milwaukee.
Turn my packout shop vac truly mobile!
The backpack is so cool!
Lots of cool ideas in those pending products. I wonder what the noise output, heat profile and longevity of the dual-power type dust extractor will be. I've gone through 1 1/2 shop vacs pulling dust through a cyclone separator (second looks pretty rough), and if the machine looks like a good enough upgrade, I'm interested. At the very least it would be nice to have more competition for Festool, 3M and so forth to help fight inflation on tool prices.
Cool tools that really expand the Milwaukee line, but given the cost of Packout everything should be gold-plated rather than red 😀
🤣 for sure!
man you didnt saw a real high cost of all milwaukee product) you have the lowest in the usa, believe me.
@@musonius.x yup i bought just the bottom of the packout so i could customize it and it was 210 cad
@@hipton1989 at local store same box is 220 usd ;)
Milwaukee has some cool ideas!
I can't wait for the new M18 Vacuum pump for HVAC.
Does the vacuum have two motors or does it have a built-in inverter?
Awesome research!
I need to ask u what u put on your saw and planer to make it slide better. I asked at Lowes but they didn't have anything. Thank u
Here's a video on that th-cam.com/video/grP2jfygqRc/w-d-xo.html
Thank u . I'm a grandmother of 12 and had back surgery so I puddle in the basement with building small things . I watch all your videos. So thank u again
Nice finds! Some of these may actually end up in Ryobi's hands as I just checked the patent number on one of my Ryobi HP batteries and it came back to Milwaukee Electric Tool Corporation. TTI prob just patents stuff under the Milwaukee name.
nice!
I love when you said there was a folded work table
For the router. I believe the Bosch 12v router has that technology
I believe the new makita 80v M class dust extractor has duel filters
Like to see a needle scaler come out
Nice seeing into the future so to speak :)
Not sure if you have seen but MetaboHPT/HIKOKI have a 36v dust extractor on wheels which can do AC or DC so... they beet them to it. Also not sure if you just don't have them yet in the US but Festool have both the CTLC and CTMC midi dust extractor full size cordless and with wheels...
Good info! I hadn't seen that one
It’s nice to hear that you are a patent nerd like me!
I think the dust extractor is the best out of all of these potential tools.
I'm curious to know what the price point will be for the dust extractor
Probably an arm and a leg or a first born lol. I would expect it to be north of $800 but that's a random guess.
Love the fact you got addicted to red tools as well 😂
Ryobi has been doing the dual-power for years when I can't figure out is how everybody else hasn't been doing the same thing
I was amused watching your TH-cam counter jump back and forth from 393000 to 405000 depending on the scene. 🙂
Eh? Nothing I really, but the router sensor would be cool. I’ve never dropped one, but if I did, I do a quick dance trying to get away from it. A spinning bit hitting the toes would be a bad day. Thanks for the research on these! Whoever put together the 3d modeling from the patent drawings did a nice job! I can’t imagine you found those while searching patents.
I like what you’re saying, but I do not understand why they don’t start adding Bluetooth technology to some of their tools, so they can talk to each other
I don't have the Milwaukee system but still pretty cool stuff.
Are these tricks only good for milwaukee accessories or do they work with others?
Piqued my interest!!
Patent protection only applies to commercial application, not to private use...
Milwaukee has filed a lot of patents in the past, and many of them never made it to market to sell.
There is a chip that can sense orientation in the X,Y,and Z axis. This can also detect falls, like on your cell phone, I’m sure that’s what Milwaukee may looking at. The chip cost $1.00.
the chip is a one thing. the other one is how to stop 20+k spm engine momentarily (like a sawstop tool does). or you can easily route your leg or leg fingers a bit)
i think after that it would be a replacement of an engine
@@musonius.x the chip on a board that controls the power to the engine would probably be what they do. It's cheap for them, probably under $5. But knowing these companies they'll add $100 or more to everything they incorporate it into
This is Lego plus transformers for us big kids
I need them to make a m18 floor stapler
Whatever table they go with I hope it has good stability, couple of those look pretty weak
agreed!
@@731Woodworks the workbench one looks the best but I fear the price tag haha
All we really want is drawers on wheels 😂
I always have to fight the urge to invest into totally new systems. I WILL have the detail sander at least
Same here, but it’s worth it. Great tool that I find myself reaching for constantly.
Bosch already has technology that stops the motor when the tool experiences free fall.
Good excuse to use on my wife! "But honey, no one, NO ONE has EVER seen these tools! Not even Milwaukee knew they existed! This one is called a...wait for it...a 'power drill'. Incredible, right?!?"
🤣🤣🤣
Back pack plate is a cursed alice frame.
You can 3d print them! A patent only prevents production without a license but doesn't stop personal use. Print away! Also anything that already has a model in the public space will be unpatentable due to prior art.
You can 3D print anything you want. Patents only cover profiting or sales of another's ideas..
While the tool reviews are nice I really miss your woodworking videos. Will you be posting any woodworking videos anytime soon? That is why I subscribed to your channel.
Yes, a new bench build will be out next Sunday
Those tables could solve some of my issues, please let them happen.
If you're not using your Laguna clean-air I would be more than happy to buy it off of you
What makes you think I'm not using it? lol I use it all the time.
@731 Woodworks saw it sitting on top of your cabinet... wasn't sure if you were using it, I plan on buying one
@@randywheeler3914 lol gotcha! I keep it there. Works well because it's elevated. It also comes with hardware to hang it from the ceiling too
@@731Woodworks yeah my plan is to flush mounted to the ceiling basically the top of the unit will be mounted directly to the ceiling I don't have a lot of overhead height so I'm hoping that would help
Isn't dual power basically Metabo's main selling point? Multivolt.
Unless Milwaukee is entirely creating these using robots, blind people or blindfolded people I suspect they have been seen.
Seriously, though, patents don't mean much at all. It's best to imagine patents as fantasy products or ideas on the whiteboard in a brainstorming session. As tempting as it is to dig into the patents for the future, if you watch the history of TH-cam videos with people saying what a company is releasing based on patents they found, you'll see a history of mostly never released products.
In the corporate world, there's a strong incentive to create patents just to have them without any interest in making them. Big companies use them as a threat of mutually assured destruction vs patents of opposing companies. At major companies I worked at, the R&D product team would often only have the ideas for patents and a non-product team would do most of the work to make the patent.
Also heard they are making a domino machine when the patent expires from Festool...
I gave them the idea for a battery powered bar clamp that is driven using a worm 🐛 gear ⚙️.
Do you have an instagram where I can share pictures?
powered saw horses?)
Saw horses gonna be $400 or something but I want some
Makita has a hepa 36v extractor what do you mean Milwaukee will have the only double battery extractor unless your saying that because the makita doesn’t perform well then I’d agree with you 😂
My bet is that they come out with one or two of the tables but not more. They'd be competing with themselves, which isn't all bad, but there is too much similarity in some of those.
BTW, patents are a funny things. The description of the invention means virtually nothing. You have to read the "claims" section to understand what is being patented. There isn't much here that hasn't been done before, except it's been done with others' accessories. I can't see anything worth patenting that wouldn't be easily circumvented, except the particular Milwaukee mounts which, I'm sure, have already been patented.
Where are you from?
hm not sponsored, i guess you just made those render videos yaself, very clever ;)
No I didn't. I paid someone to make them for me. So yeah, not sponsored.
Thank you mr. Tyson Fury
When's the roll-out, Father's Day?
Probably way later but we can hope
@@SunsetSesh Well, maybe Black Friday.
For the algorithm!
Not a fan of the way those tables look. Multiple pivot points and no visual angle bracing. Unless they were hidden in your visuals they’re probably non existent. I get they’re probably “light duty” but they won’t end up in my tool selection.
Dewalt needs to get their sh!t together I feel like a kid who can't buy a toy
they do smth wired? i dont believe my eyes) i thought wilwaukee guys dont know that a wire+socket even exist to plug in a tool itself, not a charger
Pretty soon they are gonna have a purse
🤷🏻♂️ might be a big seller
If you know about the items then SOMEONE knows about them.
If no one knows about them how can someone develop and market them? 🤔
The point is, the general public doesn't know about these tools yet. Well, they didn't until I posted the video 🤷🏻♂️
Milwaukee becoming a furniture company, and they are overpricing that too