I'd like to see a "Top 10 Unban worthy cards in Yugioh" ; as in cards still on the banlist that can come off today without much repercussions to the game.
I feel like top 10 cards that can’t come off the banlist would be stronger or just top 10 most powerful cards in general including pre errata or top 10 most powerful archetypes
i had a friend a while ago that said that the reason that Premature burial stays banned is because the guy being buried in the card art is Seto Kaiba and Konami wanted him gone. no idea what he was smoking.
@@cbraun7178 fuck, shien and gateway along with wind up zen carrier and m-x invoker being an oppressively combo loopers felt like literally yesterday time flys
I still keep comparing all the meta archetypes to windup and six sam to this day especially if they like to spam special summons in the traditional way and ad a bunch of cards to the hand, (like dragon link)
I love that a bunch of cards exclude "Frog the Jam". I understand why, but it's still hilarious because it's such a bad card that nobody in their right mind would choose it, even if they were legally allowed to.
@@NoraNoitaIt is now Slime Toad. Just like how Harpie's Brother became Sky Scout. As soon as "Null and Void " gets a reprint, it will be as Muko (the TCG card database already updated it, but it hasn't had a printing since 2006...important since the Infernoid spell/trap support uses "Void" as its name for searching/activating).
@@jacthing1 It is not a part of the Harpie archetype. It was changed from Harpie's Brother to Sky Scout to make sure it didn't interact with Harpie cards.
Funny how much fearmongering was going on with "Spellbook of Judgment" and how it was "super broken and could never become unbanned"... and now it's not banned and no one plays it. Didn't even make this list either, despite DuelLogs was definitely someone who hyped up its power.
@@dio8156 See, this was exactly the same thing I said about the card, but people called me a dumbass and were like "lol you legit think a +7 card is bad" Uh huh. I guess that's why Ursarctics are top tier right no- OH WAIT.
@@Ocsttiac I guess the card is really strong but the problem was the archetype, I remember duel logs hyping up the archetype saying it was good even without judgement despite it only being a good drawing engine without judgement
That speaks more about how unsalvageable the modern game is more than anything. Massive card advantage WOULD be good, if weren't for the fact that most boards end off with more than enough negates to render that useless.
it's good seeing lists where the unbanned card still can be dominant or is close to it considering all the cards that got unbanned we usually see on this list got removed because nobody will ever play it anymore or it was altered in a way it is a chore to use
It’s pretty cool seeing Rusty on here, he’s definitely worthy of an errata but i hope he never gets one specifically as you pointed at it would just kill the PK archetype plus he’s so fun to play he’s like a Swiss army Knife that opens up gateways to a lot of crazy combos notoriously locks I knew about 2 of them the Infamous Rhongo lock and ofc classic Scythe lock but that Time Thief into Outer Entity Azathot with PK Rank-Up lock setup is just wild I missed out on Playing Yugioh when Vrains cameout “A time to behold” I’ve been told with Firewall loop and Goki-Knightmare running amok but I guess you learn something knew everyday about the cards you love to play.
The real reason why Monkeyboard and Pendulum as a whole is absolutely MR4. The entire strategy relies on being able to soul charge every time and not being able to do that caps the entire thing.
pendulum as a mechanic was never really better for mr3, the only thing it did is that before pendulum decks had the option to play slower until they had enough resources to win (examples of this being pure metalfoes, majespecter and performapal) the only thing What caused this is that all pendulum decks had to give up that alternate plan and spend all their resources on the first turn or lose, this being what turned pendulum into a worse combo deck, why would you play a deck that has to play its entire hand, has no room for habdtraps and no chance to recover after turn 3? As time went by, this plan became more and more obsolete and Pendulums couldn't really adapt to what the game asked of them, even if the rules were like Mr3, the combos would be the same and there wouldn't be any difference due to this obsolete design and that the games do not exceed 3 turns
@@retana6135 the strength of it was to use your bodies for combo pieces, hell wavering eyes just to create any hand AND THEN pendulum summon them all back. There is a reason they freaking excluded pendulums from master rule 5. Also master rule 4 eliminated the stun builds that could set 4-5 cards and set up scales. That is why wavering eyes was in every deck. That is why wisdom eyes was used to pop itself for another board piece later. All the good pendulum cards would be ones that would go plus one or 2 for further combos. Pendulum sorcerer, luster pendulum the dracoslayer, wisdom eye, plushfire, wavering eyes, Draco face off all went plus 1 by being a combo piece and then used to soon back for free bodies. Also keep in mind that the performances that were run with it and other level 4s could come back. Examples would be like zephyros and trick clown. Just watch the replays of crossbanlist cup and how the deck plays. Sure the end board pieces aren't exactly the same between ocg and tcg but it would or could include naturia beast, raflesia, giant hand, shock master, counter traps set by guiding Ariadne. Some combo of these would be used to make the decks endboard.
You have to understand that, although it was in Pepe, it wasn't really true for all decks, the only reason weaving eyes was used was because it was the only way to search for plush fire and play against the mirror, in the Most pendulum decks were not even used because of how expensive and inconsistent they were. and the rest was just the standard performapal combo that was replaced once plushfire and monkey board disappeared.
plus Pepe isn't really as powerful as the community gives him credit for, pendulum summoning 5 monsters can be seen as powerful at the time when doing 2 xys was already seen as something powerful, but nowadays decks can do a lot more with less resources and pendulum decks can do it anyway now
@@retana6135 they made nat beast it was strong. Infinity was strong. Search off of guiding Ariadne was strong for counter traps. Wavering eyes search was great since you could reuse materials by pendulum summoning those cards that you just destroyed. The pendulum summoned cards weren't what was strong but the end board pieces made Also if it isn't as strong as the community gives it credit for why does it win most of the cross banlist cups?
I’d like to see a series similar to the banned cards series that focuses solely on the limited cards instead. Like why a card is limited and could it be unlimited/semi-limited.
How long do you think it is before a spell card that just says "You win the duel." Is considered a mediocre card for being "too slow", since it can't be activated from your hand during your opponent's turn?
@@ExaltedTilemaker😂😂😂😂😂 This comment wins the entire thread. I had new school players telling me traps are useless because they are too slow such as mirror force, cylinder, or ring.
I could see them unbanning pot eventually, but GC is only getting stronger with each new set released. It loads up the GY as an effect, so it triggers stuff like tears, etc that require being sent for effect.
Isn't the issue that literally every deck runs those cards though, like they are just free to run cards. Unless the game just goes so hard on negate effects that punish someone trying to draw cards while giving the player using the negates a big advantage, but IDK what they want to do with yugioh since for the most part they'll make some new set, it'll have some handcrafted staples for some archetype old or new, rinse, repeat.
As long as decks have cards that benefit from being sent to the graveyard, Graceful Charity will NEVER be unbanned. Only way that I see that it can is if they add losing half your life points like Solemn Judgment AND make it so you can only use it Once per Turn.
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Crazy how so many ban-worthy cards were only banned because Konami decided to get lazy and print a completely generic support for a specific summoning type- Which never made sense to me because so many of these cards were ARCHTYPES THAT EXISTED. Isolde? Noble Knights. Verta? Predaplant. Halqifibrax? Crystrons! All they needed to do was restrict the summoning and/or effect of these cards to work only with the respective archetype and it would have solved so many problems.
Funny that during the time this video was being made, Snatch Steal and Heavy Storm both came back one on each format, with a very likely chance for them returning on the other next banlist since they are barely being played.
I think I’d like a video on the charmer “archetype”. They seem to be intended to be splashed into their own attribute and even seem to have got retrains so it would be interesting to see your take on the roles the cards were meant to fill in their themed attribute decks
Top 10 cards that got other cards banned or limited, but they themselves remained untouched. (I.e. Topologic bomber dragón, gossip shadow, dragoon, etc. )
Gateway is kind of like Emergeroid Call (or whatever that “roid” legacy card is called). The card itself is busted, but the cards that it gets you are not that good. The difference is Six Sam used to be good, while “roids” were always bad.
Top 10 cards "at home" (i.e; either budget versions of expensive cards, or weaker replacements for banned or limited cards) Cross-Sheep (Spright Elf at home, 2023 Tear) Shuffle Reborn (Norden at home, 2017 Zoo) Messenger of Peace (Mystic Mine at home, 2023 Runick) Sky Striker Ace - Azalea (Little Knight at home, 2023) Chaos Sorcerer (BLS at home, 2006 Chaos Return) D.D. Assailant (D.D. Warrior Lady at home, 2005 Warrior Toolbox) Dark Nepthys (Dark Armed Dragon at home, 2008 DAD Return & TeleDAD) Shien's Dojo (Gateway of the Six at home, 2011 Six Samurai) Allure of Darkness (Pot of Desires at home, 2016) Divine Wrath (Solemn Warning at home, 2010)
I don't even know if there are enough cards for "Top 10 Cards That Have Been Banned More Than Once" list. I do know Imperial Order is, to date, the only card to be banned, errata'd to try fix it, then banned *again* after coming off the list.
0:30 Idea for a “Substitoad” retrain that’s ALSO based on a name pun: _Froggy Mirror_ (WATER) Level 1 Pendulum Scales: 7⬅️➡️7 _You can apply each of the effects of “Froggy Mirror” once per turn:_ ⚪️Target 1 face-up monster on the field: Change this card’s pendulum scale to match that target’s Level, Rank or Link. ⚪️Target 1 face-up spell/trap on the field: Place 1 spell/trap from your hand or deck on the field who’s original name is the same as the target’s, but banish it if this card leaves the field. Aqua/Pendulum/Tuner/Effect _You can apply each of the effects of “Froggy Mirror” once per turn:_ ⚪️Target 1 face-up monster on the field: Change this card’s level to match that target’s Level, Rank or Link. ⚪️Target 1 face-up monster on the field: Special Summon 1 monster from your hand or GY who’s original name is the same as the target’s, but banish it if this card leaves the field. ATK/0 DEF/2100
Talking about Substitoad I always was curious about the "Except Frog The Jam". I never understood why it was needed to refer to stuff like this where it's just a pretty lackluster vanilla that I doubt would make much of a change of it didn't had that exception on it. Something happened when Sky Scout was know as Harpie's Brother.
It's a translation issue (or rather a mistranslation one). Sometimes the translators for yugioh cards take liberties that cause cards to go into certain archetypes they don't belong (or be excluded from them). A big example (besides Sky Scout/Harpie's Brother) is Summoned Skull, which is actually part of an archetype. In the ocg it is known as "summoned demon", but they later turned "demon" into a full archetype in japan. Due to religious concerns the demon archetype was changed to archfiend by the translators, however they had already translated "summoned demon" as "summoned skull". So in the ocg any demon support would also work on summoned demon, but in the tcg the archfiend support wouldn't work on summoned skull. It's the opposite with harpie's brother and frog the jam, who would receive harpie and frog support in the tcg even though in the ocg their name are different and thus they don't belong to those archetypes. And to create consistency between tcg and ocg, a lot of cards either have those exceptions or have a special note in their card text that they are treated as a card belonging to that archetype (like Summoned Skull, which now has a note that says "this card is always treated as an archfiend card".
@@nicolaistuhlmuller8718 So all that sort of "Except [Insert name here]" is just a matter to mirror the OGC and nothing more? Well, now I get it why it's an issue because I always thought strange for some pretty ass vanillas like Frog The Jam being directly mentioned as not a target for a searcher which is the case of Substitoad.
@@TheTruestZero yes exactly, otherwise it would be weird if tcg and ocg players met at a world championship and one player's support would affect other monsters than the other's.
I remember seeing a tournament that did this as a side format: anything goes tournament. In essence, very mixed list of decks because no one could figure out a meta against anything goes lol
@@khoadao3071 I guess you read it backwards - I meant a tournament where cards that were once banned/limited and then unbanned/unlimited were NOT allowed to come back (unless they were errataed).
Substitoad? Yikes. Also i love that my Six Sams got their gate back. Its such a busted card even after the errata. Pre-Errata it could even go infinite if you drew it turn one at one copy.
Exciton was much like gorz at the time which forced players to play a specific way, in gorz's case it got people into the habit of attacking with their weakest monster first so that you dont get surprised with a high power token, even though Gorz is no longer meta relavent you still see people to this day doing this. Exciton on the other hand, forced players to count their resources and try to not hold onto as many card in hand in order to not get Exciton'd, often times keeping count of their opponent's resources and sometimes burning one of their cards as to not have more resources then their opponents.
Damn, now I realize that's how you spot an old school Yu-Gi-Oh player. I always do that, same as setting spells and traps away from Opponents s/t. It's just a good habit
Hello there can you make a full video on archtypes with insane potential Like dual avatars and rock warriors Or about some forgoten actually broken boss monsters such as apotias mechlord
We used to have a house rule where you could have one banned card or two limited cards in your deck. My friend had six samurai, played a copy of gateway, super annoying. I get rid of it, and then the Mf plays a second one… I seto kiaba’d him and ripped that card in half and let him draw again 😭😭😭
As of a week or two ago I have been checking out the YGO TCG for the first time in a bunch of years, since before Pendulums were a thing... and when trying to do some deckbuilding, I very frequently had the sentiment of: "Wait... they unbanned WHAT?!" Notably including the entire top three of this video.
Enough ban lists, the moment they banned the Wind Barrier it became a joke and I treat it as a joke now. It crossed the line when don't even use that way that banned it, start banning poor sports who can't handle losing is the solution. I lose so what? I can win with weird combos people not thinking about; playing comes with both winning in crushing style the other and losing being crushed. Toll; had 2, was overlooked, with Final Countdown the final turn or they lose have to try, got to turn #20 they tried using LP's to gain atk I asked how do you pay the toll, the 1st one don't even try to do the 2nd one, and got a weird win. What let's ban Toll now? Ojama Duo and Trio the friend had no way to get rid of the results using on them, giving me the win, we better ban those as well, since could not summon Paladin when drawn get to Special summon. The more banned cards the bigger the joke it becomes, the fewer the more they stand out why. Yugioh is re-reading learning loopholes, the mighty fusion Spellcaster QM with 4500 atk is almost immune to everything unless found the loophole with the Krawler Field Spell "When your Flip monster is destroyed by battle with an opponent's monster: You can send that opponent's monster to the GY." Loophole found what ban that now too ruin the deck? Stop crying for banned cards people; start reading and looking for loopholes or we need to ban the soe losers if not poor winners too and reduce 90% of the ban list right now.
"top 10 banned cards still legal in Master Duel" while it's pretty blatantly obvious what Number one would be (despite my opinions, its unquestionably Maxx "C"), it would certainly prompt some discussion as to whether or not the Best of 1 format has a hand in how the banlists are different from the TCG/OCG
Honestly in my experience Maxx C has done NOTHING for me. Every time I try to use it my opponent happens to have an Ash blossom or call by to negate its effect and most of the time, I've had no counter lined up for it.
If you'd want to see an even stronger Raikegi I guess it'd have to be one that does non-destruction removal which means that it'd bypass the destruction resistance
Damn man every session I regret😂. I literally gotta wait another month to binge some more of yuh good content cause its just so binjable but now gotta reup lol finna binge some mittensquad & Dotayota while I w8. Keep makin the good stuff (if you like it ofc).
I was going up against my friend, who played a way better deck then me, and I went second, opening with Harpie’s Feather Duster, Raigeki, and Monster Reborn. After the board wipe, I went in for an attack, and it was successful, and after that, I did a little bit of burn damage that left him with 1,100 LP remaining, but he ended up finishing me off, since I can’t reliably set my board fast enough for a pretty much competitive deck. My dueling friends call it a stall deck, and I think I mostly stall until I get the anime luck I need, which, for the duel I did with him, did not acquire. It’s the closest I’ll ever get to beating him when he doesn’t brick
I've always hated Raigeki. The fact they refused to reprint it and bring it to a reasonable price for decades meant you'll always lose in tournaments to rich kids (not that it's any different nowadays, but it was even more annoying back in the day).
The only downside to change of heart is that it Targets, so if your opponent's big boss monster can't be targeted, or worse, is unaffected then it's useless. Other than that it's solid.
Just to note. You say that Gateway of the six is good because it's not a hard once per turn. From what I played in Master Duel, it's good because it's not once per turn at all. If it was a soft once per turn, I'm sure it would be nowhere near as good.
Snatch Steal is probably the most meta relevant unbanned cardat this point, followed by Feather Duster. I fear Konami may ban Snatch again but i hope I'm wrong
Right can't believe that card isn't on the list, outside of the Chaos Dragon +Sangan/Witch combo the thing was a constant source of -1 on your opponent. Granted now it's way too slow.
It's literally unplayably bad. And would've been unplayable for the last like 10 years. Substitoad actually FTK'd people, but the rest of this list is about cards that are still strong *today*.
@TwoToneShoes yeah that's fair it took me awhile to understand that this was about cards off the ban list that were still good rather than top 10 cards that were banned and came off but were good in their eras. Arguably Yata and CED are the reason bans exist.
@@EflowNivek Yeah I mean CED did the heavy lifting in the Yata Lock era. And, frankly, if CED hadn't been errata'd it'd be at the top of this list. Its original ability is still broken to this day.
2:20 Wait what? How is Zenmaity still banned? Is Komoney really afraid of Wind-up handloops in 2024? Its like being afraid of a Jowgen lock in Spellbooks, lol. Can anybody tell them that we have handtraps and much better decks now?
I just got started playing Duel Links and (barely) Master Duel, but I'm wondering, why isnt' there an option to individually select cards from the ingame shop? For example I want a specific card but I have to search where it's boxed and keep drawing until I get it? Also is this also a thing if I were to play, say for example the DS games.
It seems funny to me that pendulum decks are non existent. Synchro, link & fusion truly dominate modern Yu-Gi-Oh. Kashtira is the only meta deck at the moment that uses xyz that I can think of. Although pendulum is kinda fun to use it is by far the worst summoning mechanic because of the scales. I use Raigeki, Harpie's Feather Duster & Lightning Storm in my Dragonmaids deck; just have to get Dark Ruler No More & the latter cards can be used without negation.
462 days since substitoad got unbanned and no reprint. The only use for this is for Edison format. This card shouldn't be $30+. Yea other cards have come off with no reprint sence but those have claimed back down.
The fact that all these monsters are technically still broken, got unbanned because they got power creeped......... Modern yugioh is a fucking nightmare. I genuinely dont understand how anyone in this era of the game can find it fun who isnt already hyper invested in it money wise...
Gateway of the six , rusty barduige, exciton knight, monster reborn, raigeki, and harpie's feather duster are my favorite cards to be off the forbidden list.
Just remember gate ways isn't really not broken because the draw two Bushido card and temple of the six and shien dojo easily caused for this. Nonsense flood gate process like if you saw one draw two a temple and could walk gate way in you basically generating 4 four 1 play in. Which is basically unstoppable. At the pace it would move
Getting back into the game, to me it’s kind of weird that they make cards and then the same company feels that they made them too strong or crazy and then feels the need to ban those same cards that they made themselves
I'd like to see a "Top 10 Unban worthy cards in Yugioh" ; as in cards still on the banlist that can come off today without much repercussions to the game.
I feel like top 10 cards that can’t come off the banlist would be stronger or just top 10 most powerful cards in general including pre errata or top 10 most powerful archetypes
@@Deathmare235 He already did the "top 10 cards that can NEVER be unbanned (without an errata)"
Fiber Jar and self destruct button
Chicken game and red reboot need to be on that list
I'm surprised they haven't unbanned Pot of greed, like we literally have A.I. Contact and it draws 3, HOW IS IT LEGAL?
i had a friend a while ago that said that the reason that Premature burial stays banned is because the guy being buried in the card art is Seto Kaiba and Konami wanted him gone. no idea what he was smoking.
I like how the first 6 cards are all more recent ones, but the last 4 are as old school as you get.
Substitoad and gateway of the six came out 15 years ago 😂
Pretty sure they mean when they came off the list@@cbraun7178
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I mean that’s “old”, but not “duelist kingdom” old like the 4.
@@cbraun7178 fuck, shien and gateway along with wind up zen carrier and m-x invoker being an oppressively combo loopers felt like literally yesterday time flys
I still keep comparing all the meta archetypes to windup and six sam to this day especially if they like to spam special summons in the traditional way and ad a bunch of cards to the hand, (like dragon link)
I love that a bunch of cards exclude "Frog the Jam".
I understand why, but it's still hilarious because it's such a bad card that nobody in their right mind would choose it, even if they were legally allowed to.
Seems pretty annoying that they have to mention that for every frog card, kinda like red eyes chick pre errata
I think Frog the Jam got an errata so that new cards don't have to say that anymore.
@@NoraNoitaIt is now Slime Toad. Just like how Harpie's Brother became Sky Scout. As soon as "Null and Void " gets a reprint, it will be as Muko (the TCG card database already updated it, but it hasn't had a printing since 2006...important since the Infernoid spell/trap support uses "Void" as its name for searching/activating).
@@Kylora2112why'd they change harpie's brother?
@@jacthing1 It is not a part of the Harpie archetype. It was changed from Harpie's Brother to Sky Scout to make sure it didn't interact with Harpie cards.
Funny how much fearmongering was going on with "Spellbook of Judgment" and how it was "super broken and could never become unbanned"... and now it's not banned and no one plays it. Didn't even make this list either, despite DuelLogs was definitely someone who hyped up its power.
The reason noone plays it is because you go +6 only in the end phase and even then you're playing bad cards to get there.
@@dio8156 See, this was exactly the same thing I said about the card, but people called me a dumbass and were like "lol you legit think a +7 card is bad"
Uh huh. I guess that's why Ursarctics are top tier right no- OH WAIT.
@@Ocsttiacyeah not all cars advantage is created equal. +6 terrible cards doesn't make them any less terrible
@@Ocsttiac I guess the card is really strong but the problem was the archetype, I remember duel logs hyping up the archetype saying it was good even without judgement despite it only being a good drawing engine without judgement
That speaks more about how unsalvageable the modern game is more than anything. Massive card advantage WOULD be good, if weren't for the fact that most boards end off with more than enough negates to render that useless.
it's good seeing lists where the unbanned card still can be dominant or is close to it considering all the cards that got unbanned we usually see on this list got removed because nobody will ever play it anymore or it was altered in a way it is a chore to use
It’s pretty cool seeing Rusty on here, he’s definitely worthy of an errata but i hope he never gets one specifically as you pointed at it would just kill the PK archetype plus he’s so fun to play he’s like a Swiss army Knife that opens up gateways to a lot of crazy combos notoriously locks I knew about 2 of them the Infamous Rhongo lock and ofc classic Scythe lock but that Time Thief into Outer Entity Azathot with PK Rank-Up lock setup is just wild I missed out on Playing Yugioh when Vrains cameout “A time to behold” I’ve been told with Firewall loop and Goki-Knightmare running amok but I guess you learn something knew everyday about the cards you love to play.
The real reason why Monkeyboard and Pendulum as a whole is absolutely MR4. The entire strategy relies on being able to soul charge every time and not being able to do that caps the entire thing.
pendulum as a mechanic was never really better for mr3, the only thing it did is that before pendulum decks had the option to play slower until they had enough resources to win (examples of this being pure metalfoes, majespecter and performapal) the only thing What caused this is that all pendulum decks had to give up that alternate plan and spend all their resources on the first turn or lose, this being what turned pendulum into a worse combo deck, why would you play a deck that has to play its entire hand, has no room for habdtraps and no chance to recover after turn 3? As time went by, this plan became more and more obsolete and Pendulums couldn't really adapt to what the game asked of them, even if the rules were like Mr3, the combos would be the same and there wouldn't be any difference due to this obsolete design and that the games do not exceed 3 turns
@@retana6135 the strength of it was to use your bodies for combo pieces, hell wavering eyes just to create any hand AND THEN pendulum summon them all back. There is a reason they freaking excluded pendulums from master rule 5. Also master rule 4 eliminated the stun builds that could set 4-5 cards and set up scales.
That is why wavering eyes was in every deck. That is why wisdom eyes was used to pop itself for another board piece later.
All the good pendulum cards would be ones that would go plus one or 2 for further combos.
Pendulum sorcerer, luster pendulum the dracoslayer, wisdom eye, plushfire, wavering eyes, Draco face off all went plus 1 by being a combo piece and then used to soon back for free bodies. Also keep in mind that the performances that were run with it and other level 4s could come back. Examples would be like zephyros and trick clown.
Just watch the replays of crossbanlist cup and how the deck plays. Sure the end board pieces aren't exactly the same between ocg and tcg but it would or could include naturia beast, raflesia, giant hand, shock master, counter traps set by guiding Ariadne. Some combo of these would be used to make the decks endboard.
You have to understand that, although it was in Pepe, it wasn't really true for all decks, the only reason weaving eyes was used was because it was the only way to search for plush fire and play against the mirror, in the Most pendulum decks were not even used because of how expensive and inconsistent they were. and the rest was just the standard performapal combo that was replaced once plushfire and monkey board disappeared.
plus Pepe isn't really as powerful as the community gives him credit for, pendulum summoning 5 monsters can be seen as powerful at the time when doing 2 xys was already seen as something powerful, but nowadays decks can do a lot more with less resources and pendulum decks can do it anyway now
@@retana6135 they made nat beast it was strong. Infinity was strong. Search off of guiding Ariadne was strong for counter traps. Wavering eyes search was great since you could reuse materials by pendulum summoning those cards that you just destroyed.
The pendulum summoned cards weren't what was strong but the end board pieces made
Also if it isn't as strong as the community gives it credit for why does it win most of the cross banlist cups?
I’d like to see a series similar to the banned cards series that focuses solely on the limited cards instead. Like why a card is limited and could it be unlimited/semi-limited.
I'd love to see a duel logs meta video: "top 10 cards would appear the most in my videos if i weren't avoiding repeats actively"
I think that's actually a video
When monster reborn was unbanned I had to go deep into modern yugioh because like HOW
That's how you just know something in the meta is just absolutely cracked
Cards are getting so advanced that all the old school OP cards are getting unbanned.
Theyre eventually gonna unban pot of greed only for no one to play it because the meta will just be that insane
Or old gen cards got banned because newer cards can abused them one way or another
How long do you think it is before a spell card that just says "You win the duel." Is considered a mediocre card for being "too slow", since it can't be activated from your hand during your opponent's turn?
@@ExaltedTilemaker😂😂😂😂😂 This comment wins the entire thread.
I had new school players telling me traps are useless because they are too slow such as mirror force, cylinder, or ring.
@@dorugoramon0518 Pot of Greed is basically powercrept by graceful Charity, which should never even be thought about taking off the banlist
Counting the days when Gracefull Charity and pot of Greed will be unbanned
YES! Graceful Charity coming next christmas 🤞
I could see them unbanning pot eventually, but GC is only getting stronger with each new set released. It loads up the GY as an effect, so it triggers stuff like tears, etc that require being sent for effect.
Isn't the issue that literally every deck runs those cards though, like they are just free to run cards. Unless the game just goes so hard on negate effects that punish someone trying to draw cards while giving the player using the negates a big advantage, but IDK what they want to do with yugioh since for the most part they'll make some new set, it'll have some handcrafted staples for some archetype old or new, rinse, repeat.
As long as decks have cards that benefit from being sent to the graveyard, Graceful Charity will NEVER be unbanned. Only way that I see that it can is if they add losing half your life points like Solemn Judgment AND make it so you can only use it Once per Turn.
@@TrentTheHedgie even then it is so damn good, literally I am capping for the ppl that think maxx c is fair or balanced, where is 3 GCS for the TCG?
The fact that some of these are now even available in Duel Links is testament to how far the game has come
GREAT ONE, Duel Logs. As an old school fan and player of this magnificent game, seen the top 4 spots just make me remember the good old days. Thanks!! I enjoy your videos very very much. Regards from Mexico.
Keep it up bro! Your voice is your product! Yugioh video’s that doubles as sleep videos is awesome!
Crazy how so many ban-worthy cards were only banned because Konami decided to get lazy and print a completely generic support for a specific summoning type- Which never made sense to me because so many of these cards were ARCHTYPES THAT EXISTED.
Isolde? Noble Knights.
Verta? Predaplant.
Halqifibrax? Crystrons!
All they needed to do was restrict the summoning and/or effect of these cards to work only with the respective archetype and it would have solved so many problems.
Funny that during the time this video was being made, Snatch Steal and Heavy Storm both came back one on each format, with a very likely chance for them returning on the other next banlist since they are barely being played.
Guessing the script was written before the latest ban list annoucement as Ib and Harp Horror would probably make the list now
I think I’d like a video on the charmer “archetype”. They seem to be intended to be splashed into their own attribute and even seem to have got retrains so it would be interesting to see your take on the roles the cards were meant to fill in their themed attribute decks
Good thing you didn't mention Brain Control in while talking about Change of Heart. It has suffered enough.
I still have no idea how pendulum monsters work
Top 10 cards that got other cards banned or limited, but they themselves remained untouched.
(I.e. Topologic bomber dragón, gossip shadow, dragoon, etc. )
Wait I could swear bomber dragon got unbanned also with gossip shadow I felt like number 86 was more the problem
Tyrant Neptune?
Gateway is kind of like Emergeroid Call (or whatever that “roid” legacy card is called). The card itself is busted, but the cards that it gets you are not that good. The difference is Six Sam used to be good, while “roids” were always bad.
dude ive been falling asleep to your videos forever before i found this playlist thanks for making such great content
Top 10 cards "at home" (i.e; either budget versions of expensive cards, or weaker replacements for banned or limited cards)
Cross-Sheep (Spright Elf at home, 2023 Tear)
Shuffle Reborn (Norden at home, 2017 Zoo)
Messenger of Peace (Mystic Mine at home, 2023 Runick)
Sky Striker Ace - Azalea (Little Knight at home, 2023)
Chaos Sorcerer (BLS at home, 2006 Chaos Return)
D.D. Assailant (D.D. Warrior Lady at home, 2005 Warrior Toolbox)
Dark Nepthys (Dark Armed Dragon at home, 2008 DAD Return & TeleDAD)
Shien's Dojo (Gateway of the Six at home, 2011 Six Samurai)
Allure of Darkness (Pot of Desires at home, 2016)
Divine Wrath (Solemn Warning at home, 2010)
I think "Top 10 most expensive cards printed in Yugioh" & "Top 10 rogue deck-viable cards" would be really cool.
I don't even know if there are enough cards for "Top 10 Cards That Have Been Banned More Than Once" list. I do know Imperial Order is, to date, the only card to be banned, errata'd to try fix it, then banned *again* after coming off the list.
0:30 Idea for a “Substitoad” retrain that’s ALSO based on a name pun:
_Froggy Mirror_ (WATER)
Level 1
Pendulum Scales: 7⬅️➡️7
_You can apply each of the effects of “Froggy Mirror” once per turn:_
⚪️Target 1 face-up monster on the field: Change this card’s pendulum scale to match that target’s Level, Rank or Link.
⚪️Target 1 face-up spell/trap on the field: Place 1 spell/trap from your hand or deck on the field who’s original name is the same as the target’s, but banish it if this card leaves the field.
Aqua/Pendulum/Tuner/Effect
_You can apply each of the effects of “Froggy Mirror” once per turn:_
⚪️Target 1 face-up monster on the field: Change this card’s level to match that target’s Level, Rank or Link.
⚪️Target 1 face-up monster on the field: Special Summon 1 monster from your hand or GY who’s original name is the same as the target’s, but banish it if this card leaves the field.
ATK/0 DEF/2100
This is breakable, but I don't know how
Talking about Substitoad I always was curious about the "Except Frog The Jam".
I never understood why it was needed to refer to stuff like this where it's just a pretty lackluster vanilla that I doubt would make much of a change of it didn't had that exception on it.
Something happened when Sky Scout was know as Harpie's Brother.
It's a translation issue (or rather a mistranslation one). Sometimes the translators for yugioh cards take liberties that cause cards to go into certain archetypes they don't belong (or be excluded from them). A big example (besides Sky Scout/Harpie's Brother) is Summoned Skull, which is actually part of an archetype. In the ocg it is known as "summoned demon", but they later turned "demon" into a full archetype in japan. Due to religious concerns the demon archetype was changed to archfiend by the translators, however they had already translated "summoned demon" as "summoned skull". So in the ocg any demon support would also work on summoned demon, but in the tcg the archfiend support wouldn't work on summoned skull. It's the opposite with harpie's brother and frog the jam, who would receive harpie and frog support in the tcg even though in the ocg their name are different and thus they don't belong to those archetypes. And to create consistency between tcg and ocg, a lot of cards either have those exceptions or have a special note in their card text that they are treated as a card belonging to that archetype (like Summoned Skull, which now has a note that says "this card is always treated as an archfiend card".
@@nicolaistuhlmuller8718 So all that sort of "Except [Insert name here]" is just a matter to mirror the OGC and nothing more? Well, now I get it why it's an issue because I always thought strange for some pretty ass vanillas like Frog The Jam being directly mentioned as not a target for a searcher which is the case of Substitoad.
@@TheTruestZero yes exactly, otherwise it would be weird if tcg and ocg players met at a world championship and one player's support would affect other monsters than the other's.
Substitoad
Gateway
Engage
Spellbook of Judgement
Monkeyboard
Yata Garasu
BLS - EotB.
Dragon Ravine
Trishula, DoIB
Power Spells all in one spot only.
I need a "Why this card be unbanned" series. Btw, justice for Brain Control
I would like to see how would the meta be like if cards had never been unbanned or unlimited. Like a historic version of the WCS banlist.
I remember seeing a tournament that did this as a side format: anything goes tournament.
In essence, very mixed list of decks because no one could figure out a meta against anything goes lol
@@Ceece20honestly that sounds like a good thing lol.
You would see Yata lock combo 99% of the time.
Its no longer possible with the errata to chaos emperor dragon though@@khoadao3071
@@khoadao3071 I guess you read it backwards - I meant a tournament where cards that were once banned/limited and then unbanned/unlimited were NOT allowed to come back (unless they were errataed).
Substitoad? Yikes. Also i love that my Six Sams got their gate back. Its such a busted card even after the errata. Pre-Errata it could even go infinite if you drew it turn one at one copy.
What errata?
Exciton was much like gorz at the time which forced players to play a specific way, in gorz's case it got people into the habit of attacking with their weakest monster first so that you dont get surprised with a high power token, even though Gorz is no longer meta relavent you still see people to this day doing this. Exciton on the other hand, forced players to count their resources and try to not hold onto as many card in hand in order to not get Exciton'd, often times keeping count of their opponent's resources and sometimes burning one of their cards as to not have more resources then their opponents.
Damn, now I realize that's how you spot an old school Yu-Gi-Oh player. I always do that, same as setting spells and traps away from Opponents s/t. It's just a good habit
I love how an OCG version of this top 10 could later be done
I play at locals with a modern meta deck but like, Change of Heart still routinely wins me games that I should lose. I love it 🔥
Chaos emperor Dragon with the original effect was the GOAT
Hello there can you make a full video on archtypes with insane potential
Like dual avatars and rock warriors
Or about some forgoten actually broken boss monsters such as apotias mechlord
We used to have a house rule where you could have one banned card or two limited cards in your deck. My friend had six samurai, played a copy of gateway, super annoying. I get rid of it, and then the Mf plays a second one… I seto kiaba’d him and ripped that card in half and let him draw again 😭😭😭
We had the same rule..chaos end dragon was my choice,
Elemental HERO Stratos will always have a special place in my heart.
As of a week or two ago I have been checking out the YGO TCG for the first time in a bunch of years, since before Pendulums were a thing... and when trying to do some deckbuilding, I very frequently had the sentiment of: "Wait... they unbanned WHAT?!"
Notably including the entire top three of this video.
I hope you do a 2 videos of:
-CARDS WHICH BANNED ON OCG AND NOT IN TCG OR VISE VERSA
-TOP 10 BEST CARDS HAS A DISCARD COST OR TRIGGER.
snatch steal too
Enough ban lists, the moment they banned the Wind Barrier it became a joke and I treat it as a joke now. It crossed the line when don't even use that way that banned it, start banning poor sports who can't handle losing is the solution. I lose so what? I can win with weird combos people not thinking about; playing comes with both winning in crushing style the other and losing being crushed. Toll; had 2, was overlooked, with Final Countdown the final turn or they lose have to try, got to turn #20 they tried using LP's to gain atk I asked how do you pay the toll, the 1st one don't even try to do the 2nd one, and got a weird win. What let's ban Toll now? Ojama Duo and Trio the friend had no way to get rid of the results using on them, giving me the win, we better ban those as well, since could not summon Paladin when drawn get to Special summon. The more banned cards the bigger the joke it becomes, the fewer the more they stand out why. Yugioh is re-reading learning loopholes, the mighty fusion Spellcaster QM with 4500 atk is almost immune to everything unless found the loophole with the Krawler Field Spell "When your Flip monster is destroyed by battle with an opponent's monster: You can send that opponent's monster to the GY." Loophole found what ban that now too ruin the deck? Stop crying for banned cards people; start reading and looking for loopholes or we need to ban the soe losers if not poor winners too and reduce 90% of the ban list right now.
I love how he mentions Isolde who just got the ban hammer this past week lol.
wi🎯 Key Takeaways for quick navigation:
00:00 Unbanned *powerful cards.*
00:30 Substitoad's *history.*
01:51 Unbanning *justified by bans.*
03:17 Gateway's *broken effects.*
04:53 Gateway *unbanned due to power creep.*
06:31 Performapal *Monkey Board's role.*
08:51 Rusty *Bardiche's powerful effects.*
10:57 Rusty *unbanned due to archetype relevance.*
11:25 Exciton *Knight's board wipe.*
13:05 Exciton *Knight's unbanning reasons.*
14:47 Destrudo's *versatility and banning.*
15:55 Destrudo *unbanned post-Halqifibrax era.*
16:51 Monster *Reborn's historical significance.*
17:05 Monster *Reborn History*
19:13 Raigeki's *Evolution*
21:33 Harpy's *Feather Duster Importance*
24:05 Change *of Heart Unban*
Made with HARPA AIch are
Six Samurais mentioned!! My fellow Samurais, today's a good day.
"top 10 banned cards still legal in Master Duel"
while it's pretty blatantly obvious what Number one would be (despite my opinions, its unquestionably Maxx "C"), it would certainly prompt some discussion as to whether or not the Best of 1 format has a hand in how the banlists are different from the TCG/OCG
Finally! Can you do top 10 of Tea's Cards or how about top ten monsters that look like pokemon?
So, I'll assume this video was on the makings before Snatch Steal was unbanned again as January 2024
I feel like there has to be a way to use Exciton Knight in master duel as a Maxx C counter
Honestly in my experience Maxx C has done NOTHING for me. Every time I try to use it my opponent happens to have an Ash blossom or call by to negate its effect and most of the time, I've had no counter lined up for it.
Exciton only activates during your opponents battle phase, not their main phase, so bagooska is still much better
If you'd want to see an even stronger Raikegi I guess it'd have to be one that does non-destruction removal which means that it'd bypass the destruction resistance
I like that Monster Reborn was un- and rebanned. It's a very iconic card that they wanted to be playable again as soon as possible :)
Damn man every session I regret😂. I literally gotta wait another month to binge some more of yuh good content cause its just so binjable but now gotta reup lol finna binge some mittensquad & Dotayota while I w8. Keep makin the good stuff (if you like it ofc).
i'm not sure why Konami didn't just errata Substitoad so it's effect could only be used once per turn.
I was going up against my friend, who played a way better deck then me, and I went second, opening with Harpie’s Feather Duster, Raigeki, and Monster Reborn. After the board wipe, I went in for an attack, and it was successful, and after that, I did a little bit of burn damage that left him with 1,100 LP remaining, but he ended up finishing me off, since I can’t reliably set my board fast enough for a pretty much competitive deck. My dueling friends call it a stall deck, and I think I mostly stall until I get the anime luck I need, which, for the duel I did with him, did not acquire. It’s the closest I’ll ever get to beating him when he doesn’t brick
"This was able to come off the banlist because only being able to kill your opponent on your first turn simply isn't fast enough anymore."
I remember when Exciton Knight was $80--Konami was selling $80 roaches lol
I've always hated Raigeki. The fact they refused to reprint it and bring it to a reasonable price for decades meant you'll always lose in tournaments to rich kids (not that it's any different nowadays, but it was even more annoying back in the day).
The only downside to change of heart is that it Targets, so if your opponent's big boss monster can't be targeted, or worse, is unaffected then it's useless. Other than that it's solid.
I remember people saying exciton could never come off because a generic tank 4 wipe is too strong
Hey Duel Logs,can you do a Top 10 Strongest (Or weakest) Earth Monsters video?
Top 10 Yugioh cards with Yugioh cards in the art.
It's been a while since I've updated any decks, but I actually have a spirits deck already constructed. Can I run 3x Yata-Garasu in it these days??
I think you can run 3 birds
I'd like to see some kind of video about cards only banned to sell new cards. So insulting how they would do that just to sell new cards.
Can you make a tier list of best Pendulum archetypes?
Can't wait for a video about "top 10 Cards that should be banned but aren't"
My love for *Frog the Jam* will never end
"No downsides, just power!" - Kaiba, probably...
Just to note.
You say that Gateway of the six is good because it's not a hard once per turn.
From what I played in Master Duel, it's good because it's not once per turn at all. If it was a soft once per turn, I'm sure it would be nowhere near as good.
I’VE NEVER SEEN MORAY OF GREED BEFORE AND THAT IS ONE OF THE MOST VILE ABOMINATIONS I’VE EVER SEEN
Snatch Steal is probably the most meta relevant unbanned cardat this point, followed by Feather Duster. I fear Konami may ban Snatch again but i hope I'm wrong
Yata Garasu is definitely worth mentioning
Fun fact, yata garasu canonically became a magistus familiar and lived out the rest of his days happily.
Right can't believe that card isn't on the list, outside of the Chaos Dragon +Sangan/Witch combo the thing was a constant source of -1 on your opponent. Granted now it's way too slow.
It's literally unplayably bad. And would've been unplayable for the last like 10 years. Substitoad actually FTK'd people, but the rest of this list is about cards that are still strong *today*.
@TwoToneShoes yeah that's fair it took me awhile to understand that this was about cards off the ban list that were still good rather than top 10 cards that were banned and came off but were good in their eras. Arguably Yata and CED are the reason bans exist.
@@EflowNivek Yeah I mean CED did the heavy lifting in the Yata Lock era. And, frankly, if CED hadn't been errata'd it'd be at the top of this list. Its original ability is still broken to this day.
Slight correction, Gateway of the Six wasn't even that good when it got banned. It was one of the weirdest banlists ever.
A shoutout goes to my boy Yata-Garasu for being among the first cards banned in Yu-Gi-Oh's history. Love Yata shenaningans. Lol.
Gateway of 6 Samurai should 100% be #1
2:20 Wait what? How is Zenmaity still banned? Is Komoney really afraid of Wind-up handloops in 2024? Its like being afraid of a Jowgen lock in Spellbooks, lol.
Can anybody tell them that we have handtraps and much better decks now?
Because they are lazy and handle the list like a joke with the existing content in it..
I just got started playing Duel Links and (barely) Master Duel, but I'm wondering, why isnt' there an option to individually select cards from the ingame shop? For example I want a specific card but I have to search where it's boxed and keep drawing until I get it? Also is this also a thing if I were to play, say for example the DS games.
You can craft cards in Master Duel
Stupid question, but could monster reborn comeback to 3? Or would it just break the game.
“Except Frog the Jam” is the worst offender
It seems funny to me that pendulum decks are non existent. Synchro, link & fusion truly dominate modern Yu-Gi-Oh. Kashtira is the only meta deck at the moment that uses xyz that I can think of. Although pendulum is kinda fun to use it is by far the worst summoning mechanic because of the scales. I use Raigeki, Harpie's Feather Duster & Lightning Storm in my Dragonmaids deck; just have to get Dark Ruler No More & the latter cards can be used without negation.
You are doing God's work. Thank you!
Big deal for pendulums is that the entire mechanic got nerfed lol
Anyone else notice that the Thumbnail kept changing with some of the other banned cards on it?
462 days since substitoad got unbanned and no reprint. The only use for this is for Edison format. This card shouldn't be $30+. Yea other cards have come off with no reprint sence but those have claimed back down.
Ronintoad can go to three too.😊
Can you make a Video about the synchron archetype ?
"If you can get two warriors on board you can make Isolde." ⚰️ Ripbozo
Power Creep sure has gone a long way.
Cauwe after you board in shien. Legendary and shogun the board basically stood still unless they died
Logs, you're not going to discuss with "Heavy Storm" is released in the OCG by limited status?
What about Spellbook of judgememt? The most powerful card ever printed?😊
The fact that all these monsters are technically still broken, got unbanned because they got power creeped......... Modern yugioh is a fucking nightmare. I genuinely dont understand how anyone in this era of the game can find it fun who isnt already hyper invested in it money wise...
say the line!
"expect Frog the Jam"
YAY!
Shout out to a minor error when talking about searchable back row negates he put salad rage instead of roar
Gateway of the six , rusty barduige, exciton knight, monster reborn, raigeki, and harpie's feather duster are my favorite cards to be off the forbidden list.
Im more suprised imperial order wasn't on the list. That card was so good it had to be rebanned after they errata'd it
It is not currently unbanned.
Top 10 worst bans. Bans that had little to no imact on the game
Just remember gate ways isn't really not broken because the draw two Bushido card and temple of the six and shien dojo easily caused for this. Nonsense flood gate process like if you saw one draw two a temple and could walk gate way in you basically generating 4 four 1 play in. Which is basically unstoppable. At the pace it would move
Getting back into the game, to me it’s kind of weird that they make cards and then the same company feels that they made them too strong or crazy and then feels the need to ban those same cards that they made themselves
I don't think they initially consider how players are gonna make the cards broken
as a six samurai player, once you lose gate-way you are f_cked lol