A quick message to all the would-be commenters. This video is about my experience and general know-how (and opinion) on how to size and operate a woodstove. Specifically a Dwarf Tiny Woodstove. This video is not however saying a wood stove is the best/only type of heating source. If you’re after the aesthetic, charm and use-enjoyment that a woodstove brings, then this video applies to you. Also I mis-spoke a time or three calling it 3000kw. Its 3kw(or 3000w) equivalent energy output.
I added your video to my building guides playlist. I have some land up north and I am building my own cottage. I need that little stove. So, thank you.
I have friends with a saw mill - lots of available wood for free. And shopping for a tiny stove. My gosh - expensive! We have "take off"! Whatever works for a person and their stove. :-) No use for coal here. I used wood burner to heat home for 40-50 years. Miss it and now I am in teensy tiny "cottage" and going back to wood for heat.
I don't worry about creosote. I clean my flutes before each years first light. Id rather have it a little smokey and burn longer. Preferably all night without having to relight
Also i would install a damper on the stove pipe above the stove about 16-24 inches. Besides controling your burn it's a good idea incase of a chimney fire.
I picked up a Hobbit tiny cast iron wood stove a few years ago & it's been great - a tiny lttle tank which takes 6-7" wood & weighs in at an astronishing 110 ibs. Problem is, there is only one North American distributor, and they are in the Northwest, & supply is very limited (stoves made in Southeast England). It's perfect for my well insulated 200 sq. ft. cabin. Thanks for the video.
@@iamnothingwithouthim That's not been my experience. I fired it up outdoors first - being careful to slowly increase temp. & then burn it hot for a few hours. Burned lots of diff. woodstoves since college & our double barrel - Jotul to Chappee (coal/wood) to catalytic American ones, & can appreciate this Hobbit. Cast iron grate means it's easy to remove ashes, even when running, & easy to start a fire. And being so heavy = extended release of heat after fire is out.
This is how I light a real cold woodstove. I mean you can feel the down draft coming out of the front of the stove. The first 3 ft. of flew is a single wall steel black stove pipe of which before I light the fire box I heat the steel pipe coming out of the stove top with a propane torch all around the base and up as far as 2 ft. for about a minute then light the kindling which I also prime with kerosene. Works even at -25 degrees and colder. Best torch for this is a Benzomatic TS4000 or bigger.
Great advice. Maybe I will try that at some point. I definitely think it helps that most of my flue is inside. I have a tall ceiling. Check out my latest video where I get it going a different way. Seems the end result is the same, but I continue to experiment.
You could remove the side panels you will increase the output .the side panels are heat shields so stove can be closer to combustibles. In your installation they aren't needed. Try it to see if it makes a difference.if not you can just put them back on.
Ok i might try that. Just went on the advice of Tinywoodstove and wanted to keep my walls pine. Though i am having zero issues with it heating up. That little stove heats the space quick! Plus almost my entire flue is inside. Almost went out the wall.
I built mine based on all the mini stoves. When you're old and get up to pee midnight...you just throw im a couple pices and it will burn all night. Its big enough to heat my shipping container house.
The one thing that works really well for me for starting a fire without filling the room with smoke is to open up a window to get the draft to move up the chimney. Try that next time and see if it works for you.
I had a house once where that did the exact opposite unfortunately. Had a lot of issues with that fireplace tho. Even after having chimney experts clean it and add a wind/rain shield or whatever on top. I’m finding so far with this little stove that I don’t get any smoke in the space. I think it helps that most of my flue is inside and already warmer than outside. I just light it and it goes right up. I think having the dedicated cold air intake helps tremendously as well.
None of these tiny cheap stoves seem to dampen the air well, or you guys just don't know how nor realize the benefit. I like the look of this Dwarf, seems a proper cold air intake and good design. But can you actually turn it down to a dull roar? That is the burning question ;)
This is definitely not a cheap stove. Extremely well-made and the air controls are awesome. You can dampen it down to the point where you kill the fire no problem. The unit is very well sealed. But I wouldn’t recommend dampening it too far because then you’re giving prime conditions for creosote.
@@GarmiOffgridNice! Thanks for that. I've got an email into 'tiny wood stoves' asking what the difference is between the 3k and the lite. I don't need all the makeup air and glass vent gizmos. There's a 20lb difference which is significant. I'm wanting one on my sailboat in the PNW, cheers
@Cacheola Killer, I’m glad if I could help in any way. If you decide to purchase from them I would appreciate it greatly if you use my affiliate link to visit their site. 🙏 Unfortunately I can’t give you a discount but I get a small kickback from them for spreading the word about their awesome product.
@@GarmiOffgrid100%. You've been the only sane person that's reviewed a small stove out of the dozen plus I've watched, lol. I like the heat shields you've got. Hoping the lite model isn't a thinner gauge steel and I'll most likely pull the trigger
@@GarmiOffgrid toss the useless thermostats, burn good quality seasoned wood and dampen away. Get a good ripper going in the morning to burn off any creosote. Clean your chimney at least once a year.
Honestly, with the short burn times I'd either have a backup heater, diesel for example set to kick on if temp drops below a set temp... or one of the nano pellet stoves, 2.6 kw but the hoppers can hold 24h of pellets
Thanks for watching! We really wanted a woodstove but anything bigger would’ve been too much. We also have a Mr. buddy. I use a gasoline heater in my van and I love that thing!
@@GarmiOffgrid yep. The little wood stoves are great for daytime heat when you can feed then while doing other things. Can even cook, bake, or hook water tanks to them. Side mounting oven is useful. The only flaw is short burn times and very low thermal mass
@@Nomaswearefull thank you for your comment. Can you send me a link to direct me to your video where you explain why a real stove (assuming you me off the shelf giant stove) would work well in a tiny space. Much appreciated!
I would perfer a rocket mass heater for a tiny house instead of something like this. The benfit of steady geat thru the night after the fire dies out makes more sense to me
Thanks for watching! I am finding that my insulation is so good that I only lose about 10 maybe 15° overnight when it’s in the 30s outside. I’ll have to look into the rocket mass heater just for my own knowledge. That said, this video is purely for people who want to know about wood stoves specifically, and want a wood stove for the appeal and aesthetic they provide.
Creosote builds up in your chimney or flue. It’s like a black cake that clogs and is flamable. That’s why you have to clean your chimney occasionally. But watching how you use a fireplace or stove, you can minimize how much creosote builds up. Things like avoiding burning wet wood and allowing your wood to smolder or stove not burn at the optimum temp.
I would say on the hot end. Or the “just right” zone according to a gauge. If you let your stove burn out of control and get too hot then you start causing other problems and can actually cause damage to your stove.
Should be more than sufficient. And I believe the smallest dwarf stove comes in a variant that a lot of people put in camper vans. I think it has less weight or something. Regarding flue freezing, can you elaborate?. If you decide to buy please use one of my affiliate links 🙏. It would be greatly appreciated 😊
Just one kidney! Haha check out the link in the description. Cost depends what size you buy and what parts you need to get the flue out the roof. Then you get what you pay for. These are solid units.
3 thousand thousand watt? Are you certain you’re not saying it wrong to evoke a reaction? If it’s only 3000 watts it’s the 3KW or three kilo watt. You are claiming in the wrong language that it produces heat in the electricity range of 3 megawatts.
Thanks for watching. Yep good catch. I realized a while back that I misspoke a couple times.. I do know that 3kw means 3000 watts etc. Need to be more careful on the nomenclature ;). Unfortunately I don’t think I can edit my video after it’s already been uploaded long ago. I do also think its odd the manufacturer speaks in terms of watts rather than BTU. Im sure they have some good reason.
Yes! Actually that’s what I’ve been doing this season so far. I plan to release a couple more videos showcasing different ways to light the stove. Inevitably I seem to end up putting in more wood and packing it more than I do in the beginning. So the result is always the same. It’s just how I start it that seems to change. I don’t know if ill stop using the mini torch at this point though 😁
YaKNOW!!?..WHY oh WHY dont I just have a bunch of uniformley cut wood logs to feed an automatic LOG feeder stove?! Why should pricey funky PELLet stoves have all THAT fun?! Rig up a grandfather clock type mechanizm to sloooooleeey plunk one or two logs in every so many minutes..with a thermostatic speed regulator. I can picture loading up the thing like HEEUUGEah Tommey gun circular spiral looking thing rigged to the grandfather clock windup deal..Oh!..Hm-Hm-Hm!..aHA-HA😂😂
Thanks for watching! I’m still adjusting how and where I put wood pieces. Those pieces had no trouble lighting and I likely added more in the middle after a while of burning. It was just a demonstration of the idea. Definitely lots of room for variation in methods, with the same overall result.
@@GarmiOffgrid yeah, I understand, my comment maybe sounded a bit harsh, sorry. I lived in an old house heated with wood for several years, so the gap in the beginning just grabbed my attention. Later I noticed you had added wood and it really burned well. Do you think this owen would heat a tiny house of about 12 m2? I think yes, easily too warm. How long goes the cast iron store the heat?
Yeah, who’s got time to cut your wood into 6 inch pieces give me a break. What time you spend cutting your wood into 6 inch pieces and then doing the killing to start no thanks
Thanks for watching! The pros outweigh the cons in a tiny house. You can’t just slap a giant full-size house stove in a small space and expect the same result. That’s why these little stoves exist. So it’s either don’t enjoy a woodstove in a small space, or suffer trying with something too big. Oh and it doesn’t take that much time to cut pieces or deal with kindling.
Why oh why do they always put the stove 2 feet off the floor ? Put it ON the floor , that way there will be heat at floor level, your feet will always be cold in there .....
Well, a couple reasons. I didn’t want a waste of space there because I couldn’t put anything next to it. Now I can put things underneath it. I feel like at most it would heat a couple feet out in front on the floor if it was on the floor..This is a tiny stove, not a giant stove that goes on the floor anyway, so I feel like it’s different . The heat almost immediately rises and moves around the room with convection. Aside from that little fan blowing out.
Great vid and info. Almost didn't watch because of the horriblly obnoxious soundbed on the front end. Please don't make us suffer through that drivel on future vids or I won't be here.
Thanks for watching! Actually almost all of my videos have (at some point throughout) some obnoxious sound drivel. I like music in my videos and I would say that has to be pretty common on TH-cam?
A quick message to all the would-be commenters. This video is about my experience and general know-how (and opinion) on how to size and operate a woodstove. Specifically a Dwarf Tiny Woodstove. This video is not however saying a wood stove is the best/only type of heating source. If you’re after the aesthetic, charm and use-enjoyment that a woodstove brings, then this video applies to you. Also I mis-spoke a time or three calling it 3000kw. Its 3kw(or 3000w) equivalent energy output.
Thanks for the tinywoodstove link and review.
You’re welcome! I hope it was helpful and informative
This video turned out to be way more instructive that I was expecting. Thank you.
You’re very welcome! Expect more videos this fall and winter
Great video, just right zone. Tiny Stoves should sponsor you.
Looks like a perfect cute little stove. Firewood pieces are so cute!
I added your video to my building guides playlist. I have some land up north and I am building my own cottage. I need that little stove. So, thank you.
Thanks for watching! If you like my content please use my TinyWoodStove affiliate link if/when you purchase 🙏
I have friends with a saw mill - lots of available wood for free. And shopping for a tiny stove. My gosh - expensive! We have "take off"! Whatever works for a person and their stove. :-) No use for coal here. I used wood burner to heat home for 40-50 years. Miss it and now I am in teensy tiny "cottage" and going back to wood for heat.
I don't worry about creosote. I clean my flutes before each years first light. Id rather have it a little smokey and burn longer. Preferably all night without having to relight
In Germany we use primary, secondary and window cleaning air since more than 20years. Less smoke and more heat. 👍🏻
Nice demonstration. Nice stove too
Thank you!! 🙏
Nice demonstration 😊
Thanks! 🙏
Excellent choice of music commrade general
Haha thanks!
Also i would install a damper on the stove pipe above the stove about 16-24 inches. Besides controling your burn it's a good idea incase of a chimney fire.
I can choke off the stove by closing all the dampers on the stove itself. Happens pretty quick. Doesn’t that do the same thing?
@GarmiOffgrid the damper helps keep the heat from escaping up the flue .so it stays in the stove instead of going out of the flue pipe.
I picked up a Hobbit tiny cast iron wood stove a few years ago & it's been great - a tiny lttle tank which takes 6-7" wood & weighs in at an astronishing 110 ibs. Problem is, there is only one North American distributor, and they are in the Northwest, & supply is very limited (stoves made in Southeast England). It's perfect for my well insulated 200 sq. ft. cabin. Thanks for the video.
I heard that they stink. Even after 40hrs of burning and after 40hrs they stink if burning at high temperature.
@@iamnothingwithouthim That's not been my experience. I fired it up outdoors first - being careful to slowly increase temp. & then burn it hot for a few hours. Burned lots of diff. woodstoves since college & our double barrel - Jotul to Chappee (coal/wood) to catalytic American ones, & can appreciate this Hobbit. Cast iron grate means it's easy to remove ashes, even when running, & easy to start a fire. And being so heavy = extended release of heat after fire is out.
?Stink? Well if u use rotten wood..yeah! Stinky-poo!!
Yes ; With those big stoves , i too have had spiritual experiences before .
Seems like something to optimize the airflow for burning would be a fun arduino based project.
I agree. It would be quite interesting.
I've got the 4kw stove and installed it in January. It's in my 32ft camper and it stays toasty.
That’s awesome! Thanks for watching
This is how I light a real cold woodstove. I mean you can feel the down draft coming out of the front of the stove.
The first 3 ft. of flew is a single wall steel black stove pipe of which before I light the fire box I heat the steel pipe coming out of the stove top with a propane torch all around the base and up as far as 2 ft. for about a minute then light the kindling which I also prime with kerosene. Works even at -25 degrees and colder.
Best torch for this is a Benzomatic TS4000 or bigger.
Great advice. Maybe I will try that at some point. I definitely think it helps that most of my flue is inside. I have a tall ceiling. Check out my latest video where I get it going a different way. Seems the end result is the same, but I continue to experiment.
You could remove the side panels you will increase the output .the side panels are heat shields so stove can be closer to combustibles. In your installation they aren't needed. Try it to see if it makes a difference.if not you can just put them back on.
Ok i might try that. Just went on the advice of Tinywoodstove and wanted to keep my walls pine. Though i am having zero issues with it heating up. That little stove heats the space quick! Plus almost my entire flue is inside. Almost went out the wall.
I love this little thing❤
Thanks for watching!
Hahah! Bells & whistle stove Jay Leno'd love to baby sit😅. Nice sturdy lil bugar though.
I built mine based on all the mini stoves. When you're old and get up to pee midnight...you just throw im a couple pices and it will burn all night. Its big enough to heat my shipping container house.
Yeah I don’t mind adding wood at night and if you’re well insulated you might not even have to. That’s what Ive found so far.
It’s cute, it’s cozy, what’s not to love?
realy great information thank you
You’re very welcome! Thanks for watching
Goldeneye music = instant sub
Haha! Good ear
Check out what one guy said today about it! Complete opposite comment 😂
Just saw, lmao
The one thing that works really well for me for starting a fire without filling the room with smoke is to open up a window to get the draft to move up the chimney. Try that next time and see if it works for you.
I had a house once where that did the exact opposite unfortunately. Had a lot of issues with that fireplace tho. Even after having chimney experts clean it and add a wind/rain shield or whatever on top. I’m finding so far with this little stove that I don’t get any smoke in the space. I think it helps that most of my flue is inside and already warmer than outside. I just light it and it goes right up. I think having the dedicated cold air intake helps tremendously as well.
@ interesting
Thanks! Learned a lot. But awwww. You missed the opportunity to say “and just slide the bin back in to the ash hole”….
Great stove mate it sure looks the part. You can also make them using propane tanks and you dont even need to weld.
Yep I’ve heard of that, thanks for watching!
None of these tiny cheap stoves seem to dampen the air well, or you guys just don't know how nor realize the benefit. I like the look of this Dwarf, seems a proper cold air intake and good design. But can you actually turn it down to a dull roar? That is the burning question ;)
This is definitely not a cheap stove. Extremely well-made and the air controls are awesome. You can dampen it down to the point where you kill the fire no problem. The unit is very well sealed. But I wouldn’t recommend dampening it too far because then you’re giving prime conditions for creosote.
@@GarmiOffgridNice! Thanks for that. I've got an email into 'tiny wood stoves' asking what the difference is between the 3k and the lite. I don't need all the makeup air and glass vent gizmos. There's a 20lb difference which is significant. I'm wanting one on my sailboat in the PNW, cheers
@Cacheola Killer, I’m glad if I could help in any way. If you decide to purchase from them I would appreciate it greatly if you use my affiliate link to visit their site. 🙏 Unfortunately I can’t give you a discount but I get a small kickback from them for spreading the word about their awesome product.
@@GarmiOffgrid100%. You've been the only sane person that's reviewed a small stove out of the dozen plus I've watched, lol. I like the heat shields you've got. Hoping the lite model isn't a thinner gauge steel and I'll most likely pull the trigger
@@GarmiOffgrid toss the useless thermostats, burn good quality seasoned wood and dampen away. Get a good ripper going in the morning to burn off any creosote. Clean your chimney at least once a year.
You need to get a dwarf to cut wood that small ❤❤
Yep I hired one!
I put a tea kettle full of water on top to help prevent dry skin.
Thanks for watching! Yes we may do that at some point if it dries out a lot
Did you figure this out based on using it and experimenting, or research and tiny stove instructions?
All of the above
Honestly, with the short burn times I'd either have a backup heater, diesel for example set to kick on if temp drops below a set temp... or one of the nano pellet stoves, 2.6 kw but the hoppers can hold 24h of pellets
Thanks for watching! We really wanted a woodstove but anything bigger would’ve been too much. We also have a Mr. buddy. I use a gasoline heater in my van and I love that thing!
@@GarmiOffgrid yep. The little wood stoves are great for daytime heat when you can feed then while doing other things. Can even cook, bake, or hook water tanks to them. Side mounting oven is useful. The only flaw is short burn times and very low thermal mass
Or a real wood stove
@@Nomaswearefull in that small a size, a larger wood stove would be to hot. 150000 btu in a space that only needs 6000 btu
@@Nomaswearefull thank you for your comment. Can you send me a link to direct me to your video where you explain why a real stove (assuming you me off the shelf giant stove) would work well in a tiny space. Much appreciated!
What type of insulation do you have in the walls? Looks like Rockwool or similar.
Its Cornings version of rockwool
I would perfer a rocket mass heater for a tiny house instead of something like this. The benfit of steady geat thru the night after the fire dies out makes more sense to me
Thanks for watching! I am finding that my insulation is so good that I only lose about 10 maybe 15° overnight when it’s in the 30s outside. I’ll have to look into the rocket mass heater just for my own knowledge. That said, this video is purely for people who want to know about wood stoves specifically, and want a wood stove for the appeal and aesthetic they provide.
Hi cant find link love your video from Scotland
www.tinywoodstove.com/ref/49
Wait. HOW do you get a chimney fire?!
Creosote builds up in your chimney or flue. It’s like a black cake that clogs and is flamable. That’s why you have to clean your chimney occasionally. But watching how you use a fireplace or stove, you can minimize how much creosote builds up. Things like avoiding burning wet wood and allowing your wood to smolder or stove not burn at the optimum temp.
@GarmiOffgrid is it better for the stove to be too cool or too hot, as far as creosote goes?
I would say on the hot end. Or the “just right” zone according to a gauge. If you let your stove burn out of control and get too hot then you start causing other problems and can actually cause damage to your stove.
Would this stove be sufficient for smaller camper van in minus 30 degree weather? Can the flue freeze? How can you prevent pipe from freezing?
Cheers!
Should be more than sufficient. And I believe the smallest dwarf stove comes in a variant that a lot of people put in camper vans. I think it has less weight or something. Regarding flue freezing, can you elaborate?.
If you decide to buy please use one of my affiliate links 🙏. It would be greatly appreciated 😊
Well I got to say that absolutely made me laugh when you couldn’t get the lighter lit and what you attached to it😂😂😂😂
Haha all my videos are full of that stuff if you like that kind of humor 😂 thanks for watching!
Where do i get one????
There’s a link in the video description and on my profile description
what does it cost to buy one
Just one kidney! Haha check out the link in the description. Cost depends what size you buy and what parts you need to get the flue out the roof. Then you get what you pay for. These are solid units.
If you put a porcelain tile wall behind the stove .it will reflect the heat into the living area.
I looking for pricing
Click the link in the description for this video
3 thousand thousand watt? Are you certain you’re not saying it wrong to evoke a reaction? If it’s only 3000 watts it’s the 3KW or three kilo watt. You are claiming in the wrong language that it produces heat in the electricity range of 3 megawatts.
Thanks for watching. Yep good catch. I realized a while back that I misspoke a couple times.. I do know that 3kw means 3000 watts etc. Need to be more careful on the nomenclature ;). Unfortunately I don’t think I can edit my video after it’s already been uploaded long ago. I do also think its odd the manufacturer speaks in terms of watts rather than BTU. Im sure they have some good reason.
Around here we call it an "upside-down fire"...
Open a window for down drafts.
Please elaborate what you’re saying
I have one and try charcoal at nite it last longer i make mi onwne charcoal
I was tempted to try at some point. Thanks for watching
I cram my stove full then hit it with a snap torch for 45 seconds and your good
Yes! Actually that’s what I’ve been doing this season so far. I plan to release a couple more videos showcasing different ways to light the stove. Inevitably I seem to end up putting in more wood and packing it more than I do in the beginning. So the result is always the same. It’s just how I start it that seems to change. I don’t know if ill stop using the mini torch at this point though 😁
That tiny stove holds a shocking amount of wood
I can’t tell if that’s sarcasm or not 😂
It’s a nice stove and you can boil water on top, I’m sure you know, and power a small turbine generator to a battery with that fan…
I Would Never Burn Coal!
I probably never will either, but I’m told it’s capable. Thanks for watching!
YaKNOW!!?..WHY oh WHY dont I just have a bunch of uniformley cut wood logs to feed an automatic LOG feeder stove?! Why should pricey funky PELLet stoves have all THAT fun?! Rig up a grandfather clock type mechanizm to sloooooleeey plunk one or two logs in every so many minutes..with a thermostatic speed regulator. I can picture loading up the thing like HEEUUGEah Tommey gun circular spiral looking thing rigged to the grandfather clock windup deal..Oh!..Hm-Hm-Hm!..aHA-HA😂😂
Lol! Now that’s thinking with your dipstick
You two bottom wood pieces are too far away from eachother.
This is an interesting stove for a tiny house.
Thanks for watching! I’m still adjusting how and where I put wood pieces. Those pieces had no trouble lighting and I likely added more in the middle after a while of burning. It was just a demonstration of the idea. Definitely lots of room for variation in methods, with the same overall result.
@@GarmiOffgrid yeah, I understand, my comment maybe sounded a bit harsh, sorry. I lived in an old house heated with wood for several years, so the gap in the beginning just grabbed my attention. Later I noticed you had added wood and it really burned well.
Do you think this owen would heat a tiny house of about 12 m2? I think yes, easily too warm.
How long goes the cast iron store the heat?
Yes it would! And they make different sizes. And the iron stays warm for a while. The bricks help a lot im sure
Yeah, who’s got time to cut your wood into 6 inch pieces give me a break. What time you spend cutting your wood into 6 inch pieces and then doing the killing to start no thanks
Thanks for watching! The pros outweigh the cons in a tiny house. You can’t just slap a giant full-size house stove in a small space and expect the same result. That’s why these little stoves exist. So it’s either don’t enjoy a woodstove in a small space, or suffer trying with something too big. Oh and it doesn’t take that much time to cut pieces or deal with kindling.
Why oh why do they always put the stove 2 feet off the floor ? Put it ON the floor , that way there will be heat at floor level, your feet will always be cold in there .....
Well, a couple reasons. I didn’t want a waste of space there because I couldn’t put anything next to it. Now I can put things underneath it. I feel like at most it would heat a couple feet out in front on the floor if it was on the floor..This is a tiny stove, not a giant stove that goes on the floor anyway, so I feel like it’s different . The heat almost immediately rises and moves around the room with convection. Aside from that little fan blowing out.
Great vid and info. Almost didn't watch because of the horriblly obnoxious soundbed on the front end. Please don't make us suffer through that drivel on future vids or I won't be here.
Thanks for watching! Actually almost all of my videos have (at some point throughout) some obnoxious sound drivel. I like music in my videos and I would say that has to be pretty common on TH-cam?
I say cry about it! It was only a little bit of intro music. You sir, sound like a blast at parties🎉
Uncultured behavior, lol
Yea 007 lol
Good ear 😏