I like the theory about how the Barney we see through the series is just an exagerated caricature of the real Barney made by Ted so his kids would root for him when it came time to go ask Robin out.
Yes! I also love the point that The Take made in another video. They said that Barney is a reflection of Ted's true character. They are basically foils of each other but when it comes down to it, Ted is willing to be even a bigger douche than Barney so it shows that Ted isnt a reliable narrarator and he's been using Barney as a way to tell his kids how much better he was in comparison
RyoKasai25 I feel that teds true character is the one shown in the movie and since he can’t lie about that he just tell his kids that the director was an asshole but in reality that’s who he really was, at least that’s what the original ending left me thinking
Honestly he was the most interesting and best developed character on the show and everything he did had a meaning like him not being able to play basketball in middle school because his father was absent, him lying to get laid because he thought that that’s what cool people did, it was such a disappointment seeing his whole arc get thrown in the end. What a shame that the writers didn’t liked a character who wasn’t based off of him to be the favorite
he's a terrible character, his whole arc was laughing at the womanizer. What did you expect? also, you just have terrible bais taste in shows. You watched this garbage.
Was the arc really get thrown though? In one of the very latest scenes the guy interrupted two obviously "easy prey" girls having fun to tell them how "easy prey" they are and to send them home before they are "caught" by a younger Barney! Barney being single is not the same as Barney being a womanizer. Sure, he could not stay married with the only girl it seemed to be possible with - but he changed a lot.
C the funny thing about Barney was that he was always making up things and he had crazy theory’s and he was very creative. And he was very charismatic and expressive. It was fun to find out what twisted mental gymnastics are behind his behavior.
Gleb Bokhan yes, it was thrown away. The fact that he divorced robin over one of the stupidest reasons shows it, one can argue that him being a womanizer again shows how they completely erased his development ( I feel that too) or that he always relapsed but what shows how they erased and rewrote it in less than 3 minutes is his reaction when the girl tells him that she’s pregnant and he didn’t even wanted to see the baby but suddenly when he sees her his whole character evolves again into what he already was in season 9 but this time it was the magic of seeing his child what changed him and not his own experiences.
@Madalin Grama Glad someone speaks some sense. I have never understood for a second what anybody saw in the Robin/Barney dynamic... they were *always* bad for each other, so much so that the story points it out dozens of times. Them not being together at the end is one of the actual good choices the writers made in the final season.
Barney started off as such a clichè womanizer but each season we learned more about the man beneath the suit and he ended up being one of my two favourite characters on the show (the other being Marshall of course)
Exactly my sentiments! 😁💖 Barney was easily the most complex character on the show, and the one who changed the most, at least until the finale messed THAT positive growth up, that is! 🙄
Marshall and Barney both sincere and honest they don't pretend to be perfect like the serial monogamist obsessed with his "friend" Ted Marshall is perfect little bear god bless his cheeks .. Barney is not perfect but doesn't pretend to be .. lily is the devil manipulative and SELFISH .. Robin is Canadian and keeps toying with Barney's and Ted emotions during the whole show ..
Unless those are Yves Saint Laurent suits, women's suits are horrid, poorly cut, low quality remnants of a bygone era strapped to a body shape they weren't designed for.
@@bobajob13 Suits properly tailored to a feminine frame look really good, honestly. Like I don't mean to boast but I look super hot in a suit, and I feel powerful. A caveat is that suits with skirts really have a tendency to look boxy. You want a blazer that is less padded than a typical men's one and with a shorter cut, with a pair of tapered trousers that cut off around the ankle.
@@stratospherica I tend to think that looser cut women's suits are far superior. Long baggy sleeves and wide leg trousers. Max Mara has always had some nice ones in his collections, they always sell really well. The suit is designed to accentuate the shoulders, the create and inverted triangle shape, to evoke a military uniform. And I thing women's suits do that a disservice, which isn't helped by the complete lack of effort that most designers put in.
Exactly, Barney made this show iconic, even though he was more of a supporting player, his antics were more memorable than Ted's love story, and seeking "The One". 😂
Barney *is* How I Met Your Mother. He's the comedic *and* emotional core of the show. He's what makes it work. Marshall stands as a comedic pillar in his own right, but the unabashed perfection of his personality makes him more difficult to relate to emotionally. There's literally nothing wrong with Marshall, and that's his biggest flaw. He's always right, every time. Morally, rationally, emotionally... he's *always* right, and that's not something you can really write in an emotionally impactful way. Barney's flaws are what *make* the showings of his true self behind the facade so impactful.
I feel like suits are still hot because they command respect and I love men in suits. Men in suits or also men in flannel, not hipster flannel but like hardworking lumberjack flannel
Well John Wick is set in the world of murder for hire so it makes sense for them to look like casual business men. In-universe it probably also functions as a disguise
Of course, you’ve forgotten one important thing: That Barney was colluding with the Feds the whole time to take down the very man that made him that way. He really was at war. And when it was over, he got to keep the suits and gain the freedom to pursue his blog while with Robin, and those at the company who were the real Gordon Gecko’s had to trade their suits in for orange jumpsuits.
I think there's a difference between important and attractive. The suit will never go because it looks put together, it looks like you made an effort, and THAT, more than the suit, is what's attractive. People may envy tech bro's money, but they don't necessarily think he looks good. They just think he has enough money he doesn't care about looking like he just rolled out of bed.
Well, the thing is "looking like you made an effort" can vary from cultures, in Ancient Rome, it was using togas (ultimate rich cloth, as it block an arm to wear, making you unable to do any manual work ^^), in the time of kings, it was various very complicated and rich clothes. Now it's suits, but it can change with the decades ^^ And already the suit has changed since the industrial revolution ;)
@@krankarvolund7771 are you comparing now with acient rome? In ancient rome women barely took a bath, had hair everywhere, had messy full of insects hair and they worked on the earth as farmers and had their nails full of dirt. Yet they where still seen as attractive and put together if they just brushed their hair and wear pretty clothes . Compare that to now and think if you would find a women with dirt in her nails has something attractive or well put together.
@@paulogaspar8295 Okay so first, Romans are famous for for their public bathhouse that all citizens visited at least weekly, probably more often. I don't call that "barely took a bath". Secondly, don't know where you would work in the fields in Rome 😜 But yeah outside Rome most people's were farmers.... So what? 😁 And thirdly, I will totally call a beautiful woman beautiful, even if she got dirt under her nails and hairs everywhere. Finally, what you describe was a pure rural woman, I was referring to rich elite men. But that shows that yes, beauty standard and expectations have shifted. At a time where the only bath available for most people was more like a public pool, hygiene expectations were lower.
He was joey and chandler morphed together Smart and corporate like chandler Nice person and selfless for his friends like joey Womanizer like joey Funny and a good husband like chandler
While I get the points you make, I dont neccesarily think suits will ever go out of fashion. There is a certain element of coolness in wearing a suit and while it might not be comfortable to wear it all the time, there is something about a suit that even if it's not the best time to wear it like you mention now, it will come back at some point.
The right suit and the right tailoring is way more comfortable then the most beat up pair of jeans, or t-shirt. Part of the problem is few men learn how to get the right suit. Also the lack of affordability of that suit is undermined by truly cheap options that are uncomfortable that most people go to. Then they think suits are uncomfortable.
The funny thing is that wearing a suit and hat today is you making a bigger individual stance. Because now everyone is wearing all kinds of clothes in defiance of the suit and hat, to wear a suit and hat makes you look more like an individual and you look damn fine doing it as well.
Lily was the worst character in the gang, she left marshall for her dream of painting and then got mad at him when he took his dream job as a judge, she manipulated Ted's relationships based on what she feels is good for him or not, she doesnt even let marshall have his own opinions. Oh and also, she plays that justice lily game where when someone does something she dislikes she steals something from them and doesnt return it until they appologize. Real trashy person.
Well, it is simple really, Nothing Suits Him Like a Suit!!! Btw, I love that you guys have taken up Himym recently, it has a lot of interesting parts for analysis!
It's reducing a person (usually a woman) to a type. The only thing you're interested in them is their race. Their personality, thoughts, compatibility doesn't matter to the person seeing them as a type. You treat objects this way
i think in that context it's a preference.. if he said "all lebanese girls are beautiful" (i.e. a generalisation) then that might be racist.. positive racism lol
@SchnuffelWuffel people can have types but since this was in connection with Barney and his fetish with Lebanese girls, I gave my reply. In this context, it was racist
@SchnuffelWuffel not all Lebanese and half asian women look the same, that's the slightly racist assumption he's making. Hair and eye colour can be on any race of person, so it's different from what Barney said.
You make an interesting argument, although I do feel like your description of suit-enthusiasts is a little one-sided. In recent years there has actually been a rise in people who want to wear a suit as a part of a more "elegant" lifestyle. To write this off as an old-fashioned sense of adhering to outdated views on race, gender or sexuality, or as trying to fit in in a corporate society is incorrect. In fact the idea for many suit-lovers nowadays is that it is part of a lifestyle that revolves about respect and the idea of elegance that is often tied to the suit is a way for them not to be complacent with the standard of people who don't like wearing suits. I am not saying that your argument about the suit in the 21st century is necessarily wrong, but it only shows the side of those who oppose the suit and leaves out the side of people (who are not misogynist, homophobes or racists) who still enjoy wearing suits.
And as others here in the comment section have remarked(the majority of them women, oddly enough), most of us fellas aren't Jobs or Zuckerberg, and thus can't go through life dressed like tenth graders and still be respected, much less seen as men
Very well said. I work for myself. I can dress down to business casual in the line of work I do, but I suit up every day to show respect to myself and others. I do important work. I take care of the details, I’m presentable to others. Also if you learn anything about suits you find out that it’s in the details where you can show a lot of your own character. Suits box peoples individuality as much as the edges of a canvas box an artists creativity, or chess pieces limit a chess players strategy. A suit is the structure that allows a man to shine by accentuating their masculine physical features, while giving enough room to plant the details of their individual personality. There is simply more individuality there than an adult 10 year old who doesn’t know who he is, and wearing trainers. Granted I wouldn’t mind having Zuckerburge money. But I wouldn’t take his lumpy fashion sense.
In my opinion, once you get hooked on suits you can't stop. Taking the time to dress nicely and look well put together affects how people perceive you. I consider taking the time and effort with the details like shining your shoes to be a form of good manners. You can still wear a suit daily and have a good character. Jeans are omnipresent due to the 1960s counterculture, and the younger generations are even rebelling against jeans with the shift to athleisure, due to comfort. I've had a hard time buying jeans and casual clothes off the rack my entire life due to my build. Wearing tailored trousers and clothing has been a life-changer for me. I can finally go outside in clothes that actually fit me with the details I want, like cuffs and pleats. Most societies reserve special clothing for formal occasions which tends to be replaced as history progresses. The suit will inevitability die off someday, but it still has some life left in it.
Suits can be seen as positive, stylish, attractive, and a symbol of maturity and confidence. Heck, there's even a show named 'Suits' about a group of successful lawyers.
You girls can keep up posting HIMYM related videos I wouldn’t even be mad. Also, put one for Marshall please! My favourite relatable character. Thanks. 😊❤️
you could have added the scene from Skyfall, where Q was telling James Bond that he could do more damage behind a laptop in his pajamas than James Bond could do 10 years in the field. Fits into the whole bathrobe, T-shirt look that zuckerburg had in the social network.
I also feel bad for the men who designed the suits it’s like “a painter without his paintbrush and canvas”, movies about fashion are mostly on the women’s department there’s not a single film about men’s clothing. Us men can work in fashion to.
I've seen quite a few men's fashion designers adapt to the cultural changes by expanding their designs and pieces. Men's fashion definitely needs to modernize, expand, and receive more recognition.
then go work in fashion and change it because youre right. the met gala, as an example, shows off women in all types different fashions, styles, and unique design. and then they're like and the man... is wearing a suit lol
Funny. This has actually swung me the opposite way. I choose Suits. That clip of Mad Men kind of did it. Those hippies thought they were enlightened ...”rebels of the system” . They ended up being addicts. Barney literally elevated everybody’s careers. The suits represents discipline, it is a lab coat.
I literally got a haircut and started dressing better after that scene where all the hippies were terrified of the cops but he just walks out stoned af and waves at the guy
I've been critical of your HIMYM videos before, but this is a finely done one. I believe suits still have relevance today, but the key is to not overuse them. GREAT analysis on Stinson though, nailed it! 👍
I really love this channel! Its clear that How I Met your Mother is a favorite of this channel but it would be nice to see other shows and tropes discussed (e.g. Jane The Virgin, Blackish, Fresh off The Boat, Insecure, etc.)
The suit. Don't let them tell you otherwise. The difference is fit. It's drab and unflattering when you wear a drab and unflattering suit, one that doesn't fit. But a good one? Looks great, despite what people say now. And when they see a good looking suit that rhetoric falls to the wayside. Think Justin Timberlake in Suit and Ties, no ones saying that crap about him and his look
Suits, but they are worn far less now. When a person wears a suit it's a special occasion, where as people used to wear some version of it almost daily.
I hate work uniforms, especially if you will mostly only sit on your desk, make calls, and work on your computer. Most professional wear is made to be uncomfy ( excluding tailored suits made for you, but who has the time and money for it). I have big boobs and if I wear a classical white office blouse I automatically look like a sexy stereotype office girl or its way too baggy and I look frumpy. How can I be confident at a job, where the work uniform is actively hindering me to move and feel good. Also, high heels are a scam, my mum has a few pairs called "sitting shoes" because while they look great, they are so frustrating, that they only work when you sit. Especially high-end brands like Louboutins are a nightmare to walk in
women have way more option than men. Men have one or two things they can wear, women allways can wear a tone of different options. It's so fucking annoying when I have to wear black or white but then women wear wathever dress color they can, they can wear reavealing clothes etc... But men have to wear buttoned up shirts or suits.
a couple of suggestions for the next video: * Earth bending (from ATLA) and Air Bending * Tragic endings/abusive relationships in homosexual media (like how someone has to always die or there a huge fistfight before a make-out session) * he relationship between walt and russ in UP * White saviors in movies like the help and the blind side
I like how suits make someone look presentable. I mean, its wonderful that so many intelligent leaders are confident enough in themselves to not wear a suit but to me it just kinda looks like they aren't prepared for their position (just an opinion). Also, can we talk aboit how high heels are very pretty and make your legs looks great but are so *uncomfortable* ?? Damn, that has to be said
High heels can be comfortable, but they need to be good. Real leather, for starters, not plastic; with a correct curve for its height, and padding inside.
@@LynnHermione High heels are awful, no matter how well made. They restrict a woman's natural movement, are solely about elongating the leg to exaggerate sexual attractiveness, and worn long term can cause real problems with feet and calf muscles. Ugh.
I understand this video isn't about Barney, it's about the suits specifically... but it's a bit irritating how far off-base most of the comments on Barney's character actually are. The video even points out that Barney's persona is just a facade he puts up to shield his true self from harm, yet points to that facade as his character almost exclusively.
People can say whatever they want about suits being comformist or something like that, but no one can deny men and women in well fitted suits look sexy and professional. Like Lucifer Morningstar or Elijah Michaelson, they can make anything look elegant and sexy when wearing a 3 piece suit, even murder. No Tec guy who dresses as a forever 16 yr old will have the presence or command the respect a person in a nice suit does.
The videos like this one you narrate somehow bring more to the table. They give an even bigger perspective about topics which message is unseen. They open the mind and make you think even deeper. Thank you.
I just wanna know the suit is perceived amongst people of colour. Because as a dark skinned muslim growing up, suits for me were emblematic of intellectual, thoughtful men who had principles and empathy towards others. Because my suitmen were b.r ambedkar, and Malcolm x.
My longtime issue with suits is that depending on on the circumstances, they can be surprisingly impractical. If the weather is warm and/or muggy, I typically refuse flat out to wear a suit, even if the situation may warrant it. I also dislike wearing layers in general, and have never been fond of the ways in which some suits can restrict movement.
After his experience with his ex-gf and her new guy, he probably thought, from that moment on, being like this is the only way. A really sad story if you think about it a little more.
To me is just funny them attacking barney character like showing him liking lebanese girls has casual racist, but then they defend women that only date black guys or that are into korean men because of kpop and media. The women in this channel are fucking bias and sexist when it comes to men, they dislike everything that fits in any way shape or form the "masculine" way if it's on men, on women is "empowering".
I'd honestly like to make a suit work just once in my life. I have like some kind of repulsion field for anything formal, it's crazy. Anytime I try and dress fancily it goes wrong. Most notably at the 2 big family weddings I had to get done up for. By the end of both my parents had to come up with odd and creative ways to keep the suit on me because it was falling apart. Be it my belt breaking and my missized pants having to be held up by bungee cords or the entire rubber portion of both my dress shoes slowly peeling off during the reception and party. Both were suits purchased for those exact events, so old age ain't it. It was a good laugh though.
Man this is the first Take video I didn't like. Such a hostile takedown of suits! I like suits. But damn this video did an amazing job at taking them down, especially the "uniform of the powerless" and that quote at the end "often used to lend the appearance of sophistication to something awful" I just love that word choice! It makes you want to think twice about dealing with anyone in a suit, honestly
I love the feeling of wearing a pantsuit or skirt suit, especially with heels, pearls, and pantyhose. I wish I could wear it every day but my job isn't a suit job.
15:51 That is not racist. It's sexist arguably due to the language treating women like objects but the idea of "attraction to a particular race more than others" is not remotely racist.
The more I watch; the more I love how Barnie deconstructs this kind of 'loveable rogue'. Barnie Stinson could pick up a woman simply by telling her that he's made of money; and has a wide open schedule for sexy shennigans. His attractiveness and sociopathic charm carrying the rest. But he doesn't. Because he can't. It's a great, low key way of demonstrating how pathetic he truly is.
Also too, I think there is a whole nother side to this and thats how the trope gets fed. Tropes are like black holes: they need to eat something in order to survive and/or grow because if they don't they die. The fact that the suit is still in despite the new billionaires says that somewhere there are people, men and women, who still actively by into that. Things are rarely as black and white as that
Neil Patrick Harris could make an child rapist or a murderer seem lovable. In fact he did make a memorable murderer in a series of unfortunate events....
I like the theory about how the Barney we see through the series is just an exagerated caricature of the real Barney made by Ted so his kids would root for him when it came time to go ask Robin out.
i have thought about that before. it makes sense, since ted is the type that would do something like that
That’s the theory I’m going with along with ignoring the canon ending
I see what you did there. And it got me thinking....🤔
Yes! I also love the point that The Take made in another video. They said that Barney is a reflection of Ted's true character. They are basically foils of each other but when it comes down to it, Ted is willing to be even a bigger douche than Barney so it shows that Ted isnt a reliable narrarator and he's been using Barney as a way to tell his kids how much better he was in comparison
RyoKasai25 I feel that teds true character is the one shown in the movie and since he can’t lie about that he just tell his kids that the director was an asshole but in reality that’s who he really was, at least that’s what the original ending left me thinking
Neil Patrick Harris and Jason Segel carried this show on their backs from beginning to end
I concur, Barney and Marshall were my favourite characters, and the only two out of the main cast that I never really got annoyed by. 😅
yeah it's actually a universal thing, those two are the ones who can never do wrong while the other 3 are always getting hated on
Yes yes yes
I got increasingly annoyed by Robin and Ted and the other one that I don’t remember.
Accio Sharpie I don’t hate the other ones. I just think the two I mentioned are the best and the show would’ve been cancelled if it weren’t for them.
Honestly he was the most interesting and best developed character on the show and everything he did had a meaning like him not being able to play basketball in middle school because his father was absent, him lying to get laid because he thought that that’s what cool people did, it was such a disappointment seeing his whole arc get thrown in the end.
What a shame that the writers didn’t liked a character who wasn’t based off of him to be the favorite
he's a terrible character, his whole arc was laughing at the womanizer. What did you expect? also, you just have terrible bais taste in shows. You watched this garbage.
Was the arc really get thrown though? In one of the very latest scenes the guy interrupted two obviously "easy prey" girls having fun to tell them how "easy prey" they are and to send them home before they are "caught" by a younger Barney! Barney being single is not the same as Barney being a womanizer. Sure, he could not stay married with the only girl it seemed to be possible with - but he changed a lot.
C the funny thing about Barney was that he was always making up things and he had crazy theory’s and he was very creative. And he was very charismatic and expressive. It was fun to find out what twisted mental gymnastics are behind his behavior.
Gleb Bokhan yes, it was thrown away. The fact that he divorced robin over one of the stupidest reasons shows it, one can argue that him being a womanizer again shows how they completely erased his development ( I feel that too) or that he always relapsed but what shows how they erased and rewrote it in less than 3 minutes is his reaction when the girl tells him that she’s pregnant and he didn’t even wanted to see the baby but suddenly when he sees her his whole character evolves again into what he already was in season 9 but this time it was the magic of seeing his child what changed him and not his own experiences.
@Madalin Grama Glad someone speaks some sense. I have never understood for a second what anybody saw in the Robin/Barney dynamic... they were *always* bad for each other, so much so that the story points it out dozens of times. Them not being together at the end is one of the actual good choices the writers made in the final season.
Barney started off as such a clichè womanizer but each season we learned more about the man beneath the suit and he ended up being one of my two favourite characters on the show (the other being Marshall of course)
Exactly my sentiments! 😁💖 Barney was easily the most complex character on the show, and the one who changed the most, at least until the finale messed THAT positive growth up, that is! 🙄
@@trinaq OH GOD don't remind me of the finale please... It's simply not canon in my book 😇
Marshall and Barney both sincere and honest they don't pretend to be perfect like the serial monogamist obsessed with his "friend" Ted Marshall is perfect little bear god bless his cheeks .. Barney is not perfect but doesn't pretend to be .. lily is the devil manipulative and SELFISH .. Robin is Canadian and keeps toying with Barney's and Ted emotions during the whole show ..
Zezok H robin didn’t really toyed with ted, he was just obsessed and in denial of she not lovin him
Agreed.
I feel like if someone didn't love Marshall I might judge them harshly lol.
(Plus I just love Jason Segel period so there's that too)
Whos Barney?
I only see Swarley.
Underrated comment :D
oh no you didnt-
This made my day. Thank you
He prefers Jennifer though
People forget about swarlos
Barney Stinson and Suits are better lovestory than Twilight.
Barney Stinson and Suits are a better love story than “How I Met Your Mother”.
Honestly, ANYTHING is better than Twilight's "romance". 😅❤️
I know right
The stakes aren't exactly very high with Twilight's romance for comparison, though. xD
TRUTH
Can you talk about the “spicy latina” trope AKA latina women are seen as exotic and firey sexy token characters
Yes and also analysing telenovelas
yes, and the latin lover trope
And probably how the only Latinas on TV are the ones that look Italian.
@Blue .Barrymore hahaha. 😂 good one.
Are they enough? Other than Dora and Spy kids I can't think of another latin centric movie.
I see Barney Stinson? I click. It’s as easy as that.
Indeed, it got to the point where his antics were more entertaining than any of the other plots, particularly Ted's! 😉🤣
eyyy I'm the 69th liker
Trina Q Ted became really annoying ngl AHAHAHAH but yes watching Barney grow was really fun to watch
Video: suits bad
Me, a massive sapphic: but.. but... women in suits....
On roller skates
Unless those are Yves Saint Laurent suits, women's suits are horrid, poorly cut, low quality remnants of a bygone era strapped to a body shape they weren't designed for.
@@bobajob13 Suits properly tailored to a feminine frame look really good, honestly. Like I don't mean to boast but I look super hot in a suit, and I feel powerful.
A caveat is that suits with skirts really have a tendency to look boxy. You want a blazer that is less padded than a typical men's one and with a shorter cut, with a pair of tapered trousers that cut off around the ankle.
@@stratospherica I tend to think that looser cut women's suits are far superior. Long baggy sleeves and wide leg trousers. Max Mara has always had some nice ones in his collections, they always sell really well. The suit is designed to accentuate the shoulders, the create and inverted triangle shape, to evoke a military uniform. And I thing women's suits do that a disservice, which isn't helped by the complete lack of effort that most designers put in.
His suits are legen- wait for it--
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@@EMMANUELA321 and i hope you are not lactose intolerant because the next word is....
@@saikarthikeya4463 -dairy
I'm still waiting
@@saikarthikeya4463 oooohhh you beat me to it. I was typing that up when I saw your comment.
if how i met your mother didn't have barney in , the show wouldn't have played that much laugh tracks
because he was EVERYTHING on that show
Exactly, Barney made this show iconic, even though he was more of a supporting player, his antics were more memorable than Ted's love story, and seeking "The One". 😂
Amen
Come again for Big Fudge?
Seth Colby for real, him and Marshall were the stars of the show
Barney *is* How I Met Your Mother. He's the comedic *and* emotional core of the show. He's what makes it work. Marshall stands as a comedic pillar in his own right, but the unabashed perfection of his personality makes him more difficult to relate to emotionally. There's literally nothing wrong with Marshall, and that's his biggest flaw. He's always right, every time. Morally, rationally, emotionally... he's *always* right, and that's not something you can really write in an emotionally impactful way. Barney's flaws are what *make* the showings of his true self behind the facade so impactful.
So we can agree that Barney and Marshall carried the show?
I still like wearing a suit. It simply looks good
I don't care if the suits represent hype masculinity. Men in suits are hot.
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Valerie Lynn as a lesbian, I can say women too
Yeah, no one wants to f these tech billionaires wearing hoodies and sweatpants
I feel like suits are still hot because they command respect and I love men in suits. Men in suits or also men in flannel, not hipster flannel but like hardworking lumberjack flannel
Agree!!!
His origin story is like a DC villain.
Have you watched Dr. Horrible with Neil Patrick Harris?
@@Lazurit8 Yes! Its amazing XD
Bruce Wayne didn’t become Batman for money. He did this to save lives in Gotham City.
Lesson no.1 lose your goatee doesnt go well with your suit
Lesson no.2 Get a suit. Suits are cool
*Exhibit A...
You know it’s funny that John Wick’s world is consist of people wearing suits.
@Black Ninja the majority of the characters in all 3 films do in fact wear suits.
Well John Wick is set in the world of murder for hire so it makes sense for them to look like casual business men. In-universe it probably also functions as a disguise
Of course, you’ve forgotten one important thing: That Barney was colluding with the Feds the whole time to take down the very man that made him that way. He really was at war. And when it was over, he got to keep the suits and gain the freedom to pursue his blog while with Robin, and those at the company who were the real Gordon Gecko’s had to trade their suits in for orange jumpsuits.
this channel doesn't even know that, they abrely do any research. They just use this show as an escape goat because it gives them views.
Barney and his suits are the more interesting love story compared to Ted and Robin! 💘
Not a high bar to top...
Ted and Robin is just Ted simping over Robin
Any love story is more interesting compared to Ted and Robin. And I mean... any.
I think there's a difference between important and attractive. The suit will never go because it looks put together, it looks like you made an effort, and THAT, more than the suit, is what's attractive.
People may envy tech bro's money, but they don't necessarily think he looks good. They just think he has enough money he doesn't care about looking like he just rolled out of bed.
Well, the thing is "looking like you made an effort" can vary from cultures, in Ancient Rome, it was using togas (ultimate rich cloth, as it block an arm to wear, making you unable to do any manual work ^^), in the time of kings, it was various very complicated and rich clothes. Now it's suits, but it can change with the decades ^^
And already the suit has changed since the industrial revolution ;)
@President-Caliph Dhuku We'll see, but I don't think we'll see in our lifetime the expiration of suits ^^
Maybe in two-hundred years XD
@President-Caliph Dhuku Yeah, togas also survived centuries, and then faded away with cultural shift ^^
@@krankarvolund7771 are you comparing now with acient rome? In ancient rome women barely took a bath, had hair everywhere, had messy full of insects hair and they worked on the earth as farmers and had their nails full of dirt. Yet they where still seen as attractive and put together if they just brushed their hair and wear pretty clothes . Compare that to now and think if you would find a women with dirt in her nails has something attractive or well put together.
@@paulogaspar8295 Okay so first, Romans are famous for for their public bathhouse that all citizens visited at least weekly, probably more often. I don't call that "barely took a bath". Secondly, don't know where you would work in the fields in Rome 😜 But yeah outside Rome most people's were farmers.... So what? 😁 And thirdly, I will totally call a beautiful woman beautiful, even if she got dirt under her nails and hairs everywhere.
Finally, what you describe was a pure rural woman, I was referring to rich elite men. But that shows that yes, beauty standard and expectations have shifted. At a time where the only bath available for most people was more like a public pool, hygiene expectations were lower.
Barney:suit up.
Me: pajama up.
Birthday suit up
the first time i watched himym my initial response seeing barney was: "holy shit (street smart) joey + chandler in a person I LOVE IT"
He was joey and chandler morphed together
Smart and corporate like chandler
Nice person and selfless for his friends like joey
Womanizer like joey
Funny and a good husband like chandler
Ikr i felt the same way!!
*MALCOLM in the Middle* character study please!
God you could do a series on Louis and Francis's relationship alone
They kinda did it in the child prodigy trope
Yes!!!!!
THIS
While I get the points you make, I dont neccesarily think suits will ever go out of fashion.
There is a certain element of coolness in wearing a suit and while it might not be comfortable to wear it all the time, there is something about a suit that even if it's not the best time to wear it like you mention now, it will come back at some point.
The right suit and the right tailoring is way more comfortable then the most beat up pair of jeans, or t-shirt. Part of the problem is few men learn how to get the right suit. Also the lack of affordability of that suit is undermined by truly cheap options that are uncomfortable that most people go to. Then they think suits are uncomfortable.
I think they will die out but they'll be replaced by something else that will become considered formal wear
wearing a suit doesn't make you surrendering your individualism, it is who you are.
The funny thing is that wearing a suit and hat today is you making a bigger individual stance.
Because now everyone is wearing all kinds of clothes in defiance of the suit and hat, to wear a suit and hat makes you look more like an individual and you look damn fine doing it as well.
Make one on Lily, she wasn't as innocent as they portrayed :(
She did grow up hard, was goth when she met Marshall, and weirdly enjoyed violence! That would be cool
She was the worst out of the group.
Lily was the worst character in the gang, she left marshall for her dream of painting and then got mad at him when he took his dream job as a judge, she manipulated Ted's relationships based on what she feels is good for him or not, she doesnt even let marshall have his own opinions. Oh and also, she plays that justice lily game where when someone does something she dislikes she steals something from them and doesnt return it until they appologize. Real trashy person.
@@morninggyro8880 you know that that is a comedy show , you don’t have to take everything seriously
Yeah she’s a total grinch
Well, it is simple really, Nothing Suits Him Like a Suit!!!
Btw, I love that you guys have taken up Himym recently, it has a lot of interesting parts for analysis!
Curious asian here. How is having a thing for Half-Asian girls or Lebanese girls considered casual racism?
i think so
It's reducing a person (usually a woman) to a type. The only thing you're interested in them is their race. Their personality, thoughts, compatibility doesn't matter to the person seeing them as a type. You treat objects this way
i think in that context it's a preference.. if he said "all lebanese girls are beautiful" (i.e. a generalisation) then that might be racist.. positive racism lol
@SchnuffelWuffel people can have types but since this was in connection with Barney and his fetish with Lebanese girls, I gave my reply. In this context, it was racist
@SchnuffelWuffel not all Lebanese and half asian women look the same, that's the slightly racist assumption he's making. Hair and eye colour can be on any race of person, so it's different from what Barney said.
You make an interesting argument, although I do feel like your description of suit-enthusiasts is a little one-sided. In recent years there has actually been a rise in people who want to wear a suit as a part of a more "elegant" lifestyle. To write this off as an old-fashioned sense of adhering to outdated views on race, gender or sexuality, or as trying to fit in in a corporate society is incorrect. In fact the idea for many suit-lovers nowadays is that it is part of a lifestyle that revolves about respect and the idea of elegance that is often tied to the suit is a way for them not to be complacent with the standard of people who don't like wearing suits.
I am not saying that your argument about the suit in the 21st century is necessarily wrong, but it only shows the side of those who oppose the suit and leaves out the side of people (who are not misogynist, homophobes or racists) who still enjoy wearing suits.
And as others here in the comment section have remarked(the majority of them women, oddly enough), most of us fellas aren't Jobs or Zuckerberg, and thus can't go through life dressed like tenth graders and still be respected, much less seen as men
Very well said. I work for myself. I can dress down to business casual in the line of work I do, but I suit up every day to show respect to myself and others. I do important work. I take care of the details, I’m presentable to others. Also if you learn anything about suits you find out that it’s in the details where you can show a lot of your own character. Suits box peoples individuality as much as the edges of a canvas box an artists creativity, or chess pieces limit a chess players strategy. A suit is the structure that allows a man to shine by accentuating their masculine physical features, while giving enough room to plant the details of their individual personality.
There is simply more individuality there than an adult 10 year old who doesn’t know who he is, and wearing trainers. Granted I wouldn’t mind having Zuckerburge money. But I wouldn’t take his lumpy fashion sense.
In my opinion, once you get hooked on suits you can't stop. Taking the time to dress nicely and look well put together affects how people perceive you. I consider taking the time and effort with the details like shining your shoes to be a form of good manners. You can still wear a suit daily and have a good character. Jeans are omnipresent due to the 1960s counterculture, and the younger generations are even rebelling against jeans with the shift to athleisure, due to comfort. I've had a hard time buying jeans and casual clothes off the rack my entire life due to my build. Wearing tailored trousers and clothing has been a life-changer for me. I can finally go outside in clothes that actually fit me with the details I want, like cuffs and pleats. Most societies reserve special clothing for formal occasions which tends to be replaced as history progresses. The suit will inevitability die off someday, but it still has some life left in it.
Earlier than my parents at an airport
Suits can be seen as positive, stylish, attractive, and a symbol of maturity and confidence. Heck, there's even a show named 'Suits' about a group of successful lawyers.
You girls can keep up posting HIMYM related videos I wouldn’t even be mad. Also, put one for Marshall please! My favourite relatable character. Thanks. 😊❤️
Yaaaaas! Marshall
It's so damn early, Barney still a hippie going to Nicaragua
😂😂😂
Why do I hear him saying "Nicaragua" XD
you could have added the scene from Skyfall, where Q was telling James Bond that he could do more damage behind a laptop in his pajamas than James Bond could do 10 years in the field. Fits into the whole bathrobe, T-shirt look that zuckerburg had in the social network.
I like your HIMYM marathon, this show shaped my sense of humor in a way🥺
Main character from How i met your mother : Ted
Best character from How i met your mother : Barney
Ever think of doing a video for the Weird Boy Trope? You could point out examples like Edwaed Scissorhands or Jughead Jones from Riverdale.
The promise: Explaining Barney and his suits
The truth: The history of suit fashion.
Not that I mind...
I also feel bad for the men who designed the suits it’s like “a painter without his paintbrush and canvas”, movies about fashion are mostly on the women’s department there’s not a single film about men’s clothing. Us men can work in fashion to.
I've seen quite a few men's fashion designers adapt to the cultural changes by expanding their designs and pieces. Men's fashion definitely needs to modernize, expand, and receive more recognition.
then go work in fashion and change it because youre right. the met gala, as an example, shows off women in all types different fashions, styles, and unique design. and then they're like and the man... is wearing a suit lol
Funny. This has actually swung me the opposite way. I choose Suits. That clip of Mad Men kind of did it. Those hippies thought they were enlightened ...”rebels of the system” . They ended up being addicts. Barney literally elevated everybody’s careers. The suits represents discipline, it is a lab coat.
I literally got a haircut and started dressing better after that scene where all the hippies were terrified of the cops but he just walks out stoned af and waves at the guy
Well, I love wearing suits. I have since I was 11. Their comfortable and make me feel great.
6:03 barney was actually telling us what he's job was.
Take away the tie and I would totally wear that suit pajamas, it looks comfy
The Take is like my favourite TV show except you get a new episode every couple of days instead of weeks.
Okay but hear me out: women in suits
I hear you!
Aye
you're hired
I never thought I’d see a 20 minute video about Barney and his suits, but it’s what the suits deserve.
I've been critical of your HIMYM videos before, but this is a finely done one.
I believe suits still have relevance today, but the key is to not overuse them.
GREAT analysis on Stinson though, nailed it! 👍
I really love this channel! Its clear that How I Met your Mother is a favorite of this channel but it would be nice to see other shows and tropes discussed (e.g. Jane The Virgin, Blackish, Fresh off The Boat, Insecure, etc.)
wow i love how you just made 4 himym contents in 1 month and i just happen to have just finished rewatching the show
If the suit is now associated with an outdated era, what's the standard look for a sophisticated man now?
The suit. Don't let them tell you otherwise. The difference is fit. It's drab and unflattering when you wear a drab and unflattering suit, one that doesn't fit. But a good one? Looks great, despite what people say now. And when they see a good looking suit that rhetoric falls to the wayside. Think Justin Timberlake in Suit and Ties, no ones saying that crap about him and his look
full body morph suit
That's the thing. The suit ISN'T associated with an outdated era
I'd still say the suit tbh
Suits, but they are worn far less now. When a person wears a suit it's a special occasion, where as people used to wear some version of it almost daily.
Try to Talk down the suit, but to be realistic:
Most People connect Suits to importance, influence and power.
There was nothing more demeaning to me in my former job than high heels being obligatory to the point they were going to give us uniforms
I hate work uniforms, especially if you will mostly only sit on your desk, make calls, and work on your computer. Most professional wear is made to be uncomfy ( excluding tailored suits made for you, but who has the time and money for it). I have big boobs and if I wear a classical white office blouse I automatically look like a sexy stereotype office girl or its way too baggy and I look frumpy. How can I be confident at a job, where the work uniform is actively hindering me to move and feel good. Also, high heels are a scam, my mum has a few pairs called "sitting shoes" because while they look great, they are so frustrating, that they only work when you sit. Especially high-end brands like Louboutins are a nightmare to walk in
Your bosses sound like masochists
@@loewenmakrele corsets work for some people
women have way more option than men. Men have one or two things they can wear, women allways can wear a tone of different options. It's so fucking annoying when I have to wear black or white but then women wear wathever dress color they can, they can wear reavealing clothes etc... But men have to wear buttoned up shirts or suits.
a couple of suggestions for the next video:
* Earth bending (from ATLA) and Air Bending
* Tragic endings/abusive relationships in homosexual media (like how someone has to always die or there a huge fistfight before a make-out session)
* he relationship between walt and russ in UP
* White saviors in movies like the help and the blind side
I like how suits make someone look presentable. I mean, its wonderful that so many intelligent leaders are confident enough in themselves to not wear a suit but to me it just kinda looks like they aren't prepared for their position (just an opinion). Also, can we talk aboit how high heels are very pretty and make your legs looks great but are so *uncomfortable* ?? Damn, that has to be said
High heels can be comfortable, but they need to be good. Real leather, for starters, not plastic; with a correct curve for its height, and padding inside.
@@LynnHermione High heels are awful, no matter how well made. They restrict a woman's natural movement, are solely about elongating the leg to exaggerate sexual attractiveness, and worn long term can cause real problems with feet and calf muscles. Ugh.
It is going to be legend waitttttttt for it daaaaaarrrrrrryyyyyy
I understand this video isn't about Barney, it's about the suits specifically... but it's a bit irritating how far off-base most of the comments on Barney's character actually are. The video even points out that Barney's persona is just a facade he puts up to shield his true self from harm, yet points to that facade as his character almost exclusively.
In some way the t-shirt and hoodie wearing fashion are even more elitist and exclusionary, much harder for outsiders to get in.
Yup. If you like suits and wear one, you are judged just as much.
Plus the Suits didn’t steal all our personal data and sell it to the highest bidder.
@@KrisRN23935 I’m not anti-suits at all but suits did steal people’s retirement funds and crash the economy.
@@Femmagorgon Meh, the tech bros spy on us so I’d say it’s even.
This video has opened my eyes into what a suit symbolizes in movies and tv shows.
Perfect Ad placement... legen wait for it....ad...dary🤣🤣
Wearing a suit while watching this. and it is LEGENDARY!!
People can say whatever they want about suits being comformist or something like that, but no one can deny men and women in well fitted suits look sexy and professional. Like Lucifer Morningstar or Elijah Michaelson, they can make anything look elegant and sexy when wearing a 3 piece suit, even murder. No Tec guy who dresses as a forever 16 yr old will have the presence or command the respect a person in a nice suit does.
Quality content as always
Lily, talk about Lily and how she grew during the show.
i like your HIMYM series!
I love the take
Even though I never watched this show, I was curious about the subject, so I clicked on it.
im a simple girl, i see barney stinson.. i click
I love when people discuss the inherent politics in fashion and how it evolves over the years
The videos like this one you narrate somehow bring more to the table. They give an even bigger perspective about topics which message is unseen. They open the mind and make you think even deeper. Thank you.
I just wanna know the suit is perceived amongst people of colour. Because as a dark skinned muslim growing up, suits for me were emblematic of intellectual, thoughtful men who had principles and empathy towards others. Because my suitmen were b.r ambedkar, and Malcolm x.
The video I didn't know I wanted.
As COPPA changes the outlook of TH-cam, I’m glad to see content suitable for all audiences.
I finally understand that line in You're Never Fully Dressed Without A Smile from Annie! Thanks, Susannah and Debra!
Ted’s character was always annoying. Barney was the man!
Please to have to do a Take on how Latinas are portrayed as the latin equivalent as the "sassy black girl friend"
I HAVE BEEN WAITING FOR YOUR TAKE ON BARNEY OH MY GOD!!!!! IM SO HAPPY!!!
My longtime issue with suits is that depending on on the circumstances, they can be surprisingly impractical. If the weather is warm and/or muggy, I typically refuse flat out to wear a suit, even if the situation may warrant it. I also dislike wearing layers in general, and have never been fond of the ways in which some suits can restrict movement.
After his experience with his ex-gf and her new guy, he probably thought, from that moment on, being like this is the only way. A really sad story if you think about it a little more.
To me is just funny them attacking barney character like showing him liking lebanese girls has casual racist, but then they defend women that only date black guys or that are into korean men because of kpop and media. The women in this channel are fucking bias and sexist when it comes to men, they dislike everything that fits in any way shape or form the "masculine" way if it's on men, on women is "empowering".
I'd honestly like to make a suit work just once in my life. I have like some kind of repulsion field for anything formal, it's crazy. Anytime I try and dress fancily it goes wrong. Most notably at the 2 big family weddings I had to get done up for. By the end of both my parents had to come up with odd and creative ways to keep the suit on me because it was falling apart. Be it my belt breaking and my missized pants having to be held up by bungee cords or the entire rubber portion of both my dress shoes slowly peeling off during the reception and party. Both were suits purchased for those exact events, so old age ain't it. It was a good laugh though.
GNB related stories are one of my favorites in the show because there's some good satire there
Man this is the first Take video I didn't like. Such a hostile takedown of suits! I like suits. But damn this video did an amazing job at taking them down, especially the "uniform of the powerless" and that quote at the end "often used to lend the appearance of sophistication to something awful" I just love that word choice! It makes you want to think twice about dealing with anyone in a suit, honestly
I want a take on Coraline and the lesson that an imperfect family can still be perfect or sth like this
I love the feeling of wearing a pantsuit or skirt suit, especially with heels, pearls, and pantyhose. I wish I could wear it every day but my job isn't a suit job.
0:44 I can't believe she referred to Barney as 'Barnacles'.
15:51 That is not racist. It's sexist arguably due to the language treating women like objects but the idea of "attraction to a particular race more than others" is not remotely racist.
The more I watch; the more I love how Barnie deconstructs this kind of 'loveable rogue'. Barnie Stinson could pick up a woman simply by telling her that he's made of money; and has a wide open schedule for sexy shennigans. His attractiveness and sociopathic charm carrying the rest. But he doesn't. Because he can't. It's a great, low key way of demonstrating how pathetic he truly is.
Without Barney, how I met your mother don’t work
Also too, I think there is a whole nother side to this and thats how the trope gets fed. Tropes are like black holes: they need to eat something in order to survive and/or grow because if they don't they die. The fact that the suit is still in despite the new billionaires says that somewhere there are people, men and women, who still actively by into that. Things are rarely as black and white as that
Neil Patrick Harris could make an child rapist or a murderer seem lovable. In fact he did make a memorable murderer in a series of unfortunate events....
girl what??????
Yesss, another HIMYM one!! Gimme all the HIMYM takes!
Uh... it's invoking Darth Vader getting imprisoned in his new life sustaining armor.
Yes! Thank you! That's perfect.
Barney is the reason I keep coming back to himym
I wear suits because I think they look good and make me feel confident. Nothing more, nothing less
Barney: What do you think I sleep in?
Marshall, the fuckin savage: . . . a coffin?
Wow. It's almost like they watched the show.*
Because HIMYM makes this all very clear.
I have never been this excited about a youtube video
now that's a solid take
This channel s basically free therapy
Barney made this series
Now do deeper symbolism of the suits in Suits