This is a mid-morning local interval opt-out transmitted on Anglia on Wednesday 30th January 1980 with a rundown for the next day’s programmes. They then re-join the network feed from ATV Birmingham (an interval with programmes resume at 11.04 caption). As ATV provided a composite network feed of schools programmes, intervals and clocks they did not usually list programmes for the next day in order to accommodate regions that had opt outs. As this clip shows, that didn’t prevent individual stations from opting out and transmitting a local interval/rundown.
I've looked up the listings for this day using several sources, and in this particular instance it was actually ATV who stopped showing schools programmes at 10:30, in order to repeat a religious show called 'Something Different', which aired until 10:45. Thames, Granada, Southern, Yorkshire, Westward, Channel, Anglia and HTV (and probably some or all of the other 5 regions) continued on with schools programming, showing The French Programme at 10:33, in particular an episode about burglary. At 11:04 ATV returned to school's programming with Stop Look Listen.
I’m told there was normally a break in the programme feed from ATV around 10.30 to 11.00 because the network feed was used then to exchange trailers etc between the regions. So everyone “covered this up” with local or part networked schools programmes or other programmes and/or local captions as seen here. When the trailers had finished, ATV got control back and networked the “resumes at 11.04” caption or similar, which regions could rejoin at their leisure in time for the next scheduled programme.
I think that is actually the same bell foundry that Drew Pritchard went to in one of the Salvage Hunters programmes. I love these kind of old documentaries, even if they are kind of simplified for kids. I remember the title of that programme, but wouldn't have been able to say what they were about after all this time. I probably did watch them at the time.
Hey up - that looks like my old Latin & French teacher - Mr. Reid from Nottingham playing those bells ! ! ! The church looks like St. Helen's in Stapleford.
Had to sub. Always looking for this type of archive. Stuff I regard as 'Lost media' from my Middle School days (9-12yrs). It was seeing the menu at the start, showing that @11.44 Picture Box was on, that got me. Now that's a programme I have fond, if not weird memories of. Some episodes are on YT. Thanx again. Peace All
Burton Music this term - BRJ 16 Past & Present by John A. coleman, tracks Gay Gavotte, Gleeful Gigue and a 1 minutes edit of Crisp Courante over the clock...
5:25 Look Around You-ness intensifies 7:44 Too late, they realised they should never have taken that wrong turn into the scrapyard 9:14 my partner: "The composer realised he'd never be asked to write a Bond theme" 13:07 The foundry also has the largest sound system in Loughborough 13:27 I mean why did nobody at careers day tell me I could be that guy 13:54 This bell, however, has a human clanger
@gaz , The channel we call ITV today, is a much more homogeneous entity than it once was - today, the regional aspect of ITV can be seen in the local news but, perhaps, not much more. But there was a time, not loo long ago, where a t.v. set in one part of the country, would have an ITV that looks different and shows quite a few different programmes, to a version seen on a set located elsewhere. This is because each region in the UK had its own 'just for us' ITV service and this meant that the ITV for London was, in many aspects, different to the ITV for Birmingham and both these were different to those for Manchester, Leeds, Newcastle, Edinburgh, etc. That said, the different regional ITV companies did still share programmes, such as the national ITN news, Coronation Street and so on, leading to the idea of an over-arching 'network' : the bigger ITV companies made more programmes for this 'network', than the rest. Against this back-drop - of regions doing their own thing at certain times, for example late in the evening or on Sunday afternoon but then being part of the 'network', at others - we have the situation depicted by this clip and your question about it. The Birmingham region of ITV is showing a sequence of educational programmes for schools, complete with interludes and count-down clocks. The technicians there are running the tapes and editing everyting together, to create a seamless viewing experience. If you are an ITV region in some other part of the country, you can make use of the considerable network of cabling and communications technology, to 'tune into' what Birmingham are transmitting (the 'network feed') and, indeed, show it to your own viewers. To the viewer in your region, there is little evidence that these programmes have come from somewhere else. It is as if they are your programmes and you are doing all the hard work ! That is, of course, unless, or until, you decide to 'opt out' for some reason. Why do this? Well, you might have a programme for schools that you've made in your own region, specifically for your own region - for example, a programme in Welsh. But if you want to show that, you have got to opt out of the network feed and then opt back in again, afterwards.* To that end, Anglia Television, the ITV based in Norwich, have stopped showing the network feed and have, therefore, been doing their own thing. Once they've done what they opted out for, they now have to wait until the network programme they opted out from, has finished. In this instance, Anglia have waited for a bit and then chosen to opt back into the network feed pretty much at the earliest opportunity. As a result, if you're watching in the Anglia region, this will give you the impression of one 'follows shortly' slide, following another. * (As an aside, you can't just opt out of schools programmes altogether and show something else, as there is an organisation called the IBA - the Independent Television Authority - who are in charge of all of the ITV regions. You have to get their permission to show a schools programme of your choosing, in place of one from the network feed.)
Thanks Kevin - I read Transdiffusion, at www.transdiffusion.org , where Kif and Russ do all the research and explain the whole thing to the rest of us, in great detail.
@@ffibnogab7644 wasn't it great if you lived in an area where the regions overlapped. If you missed a programme one night you might be able to catch it another night
Brings me back to off sick watching schools TV and learning something
Same here I use to love being off school
I recon I learned a lot more watching Schools & Colleges programmes at home than I ever did at school!
My entire childhood was narrated by Chris Tarrant.
Has anyone got a massive urge to sit cross-legged on the carpet watching this?
Yes, although it wasn't a carpet in our case.
Yeah, and you need to watch it on a big telly on a trolley.
Back in the day
I hated school so much
I've been getting into things like blacksmithing, so came here for the nostalgia, stayed for the lesson.
Thank you for this-very nice and for the memories too. The ATV Zoom 2 ident in particular is wonderful-so well done of course!!
This is a mid-morning local interval opt-out transmitted on Anglia on Wednesday 30th January 1980 with a rundown for the next day’s programmes. They then re-join the network feed from ATV Birmingham (an interval with programmes resume at 11.04 caption).
As ATV provided a composite network feed of schools programmes, intervals and clocks they did not usually list programmes for the next day in order to accommodate regions that had opt outs. As this clip shows, that didn’t prevent individual stations from opting out and transmitting a local interval/rundown.
I've looked up the listings for this day using several sources, and in this particular instance it was actually ATV who stopped showing schools programmes at 10:30, in order to repeat a religious show called 'Something Different', which aired until 10:45. Thames, Granada, Southern, Yorkshire, Westward, Channel, Anglia and HTV (and probably some or all of the other 5 regions) continued on with schools programming, showing The French Programme at 10:33, in particular an episode about burglary. At 11:04 ATV returned to school's programming with Stop Look Listen.
I’m told there was normally a break in the programme feed from ATV around 10.30 to 11.00 because the network feed was used then to exchange trailers etc between the regions. So everyone “covered this up” with local or part networked schools programmes or other programmes and/or local captions as seen here. When the trailers had finished, ATV got control back and networked the “resumes at 11.04” caption or similar, which regions could rejoin at their leisure in time for the next scheduled programme.
Thants
Picture Box! The music used to scare me!
That’s a great find and the Anglia Slide used for Schools programmes very rare
Yes.
I think that is actually the same bell foundry that Drew Pritchard went to in one of the Salvage Hunters programmes. I love these kind of old documentaries, even if they are kind of simplified for kids. I remember the title of that programme, but wouldn't have been able to say what they were about after all this time. I probably did watch them at the time.
I think there were only two bell foundries left in the UK when this film was made and only one when Salvage Hunters visited, so it’s quite likely.
Hey up - that looks like my old Latin & French teacher - Mr. Reid from Nottingham playing those bells ! ! !
The church looks like St. Helen's in Stapleford.
Had to sub. Always looking for this type of archive. Stuff I regard as 'Lost media' from my Middle School days (9-12yrs). It was seeing the menu at the start, showing that @11.44 Picture Box was on, that got me. Now that's a programme I have fond, if not weird memories of. Some episodes are on YT. Thanx again. Peace All
Should be retitled All our yesterdays. Unfortunately next week's stop look listen has been cancelled due to all the factories being closed down.
The music used before the programmes started was wonderful, I wonder if its on the De Wolfe or KPM labels?
Burton Music this term - BRJ 16 Past & Present by John A. coleman, tracks Gay Gavotte, Gleeful Gigue and a 1 minutes edit of Crisp Courante over the clock...
Opening slide for programme listing has a syd dale track on it!
My blood pressure is hitting the roof here ! lol. Don't think I could do that job.
Just look around you…
When Britain still had industry...
...and you could still call Britain 'great'
Do not remember having listing for the programmes in London so to me that was unusual
Track listing:
1) The Winslow Boy by Werner Tautz
2) Overture by Great Organ Concerts
3) I Will Survive by The Song Family
4) High Life
Absolute gold.
The fella with that mallet absolutely loved that
This is from Thursday 31st January 1980
Odd, vey specific timed schedule
5:25 Look Around You-ness intensifies
7:44 Too late, they realised they should never have taken that wrong turn into the scrapyard
9:14 my partner: "The composer realised he'd never be asked to write a Bond theme"
13:07 The foundry also has the largest sound system in Loughborough
13:27 I mean why did nobody at careers day tell me I could be that guy
13:54 This bell, however, has a human clanger
Fantastic stuff. Do you have the 'how baked beans are made' episode?
I'm not sure if you're being sarcastic or serious..
ADC TV Collection uploaded that to youtube about a month ago!
filmed in 1979 transmitted spring term 1980
I would therefore have been nine and halfway through junior school. Takes me right back to childhood memories!
An opt out I believe.
Looks like one.
why did these programs take forever to start why didn't they just put them straight on without long intros
Schedules and it allowed teachers to get kids from one lesson to the telly room and settled down ready to watch.
Now, write that down.
@gaz , The channel we call ITV today, is a much more homogeneous entity than it once was - today, the regional aspect of ITV can be seen in the local news but, perhaps, not much more.
But there was a time, not loo long ago, where a t.v. set in one part of the country, would have an ITV that looks different and shows quite a few different programmes, to a version seen on a set located elsewhere.
This is because each region in the UK had its own 'just for us' ITV service and this meant that the ITV for London was, in many aspects, different to the ITV for Birmingham and both these were different to those for Manchester, Leeds, Newcastle, Edinburgh, etc.
That said, the different regional ITV companies did still share programmes, such as the national ITN news, Coronation Street and so on, leading to the idea of an over-arching 'network' : the bigger ITV companies made more programmes for this 'network', than the rest.
Against this back-drop - of regions doing their own thing at certain times, for example late in the evening or on Sunday afternoon but then being part of the 'network', at others - we have the situation depicted by this clip and your question about it.
The Birmingham region of ITV is showing a sequence of educational programmes for schools, complete with interludes and count-down clocks. The technicians there are running the tapes and editing everyting together, to create a seamless viewing experience.
If you are an ITV region in some other part of the country, you can make use of the considerable network of cabling and communications technology, to 'tune into' what Birmingham are transmitting (the 'network feed') and, indeed, show it to your own viewers.
To the viewer in your region, there is little evidence that these programmes have come from somewhere else. It is as if they are your programmes and you are doing all the hard work ! That is, of course, unless, or until, you decide to 'opt out' for some reason.
Why do this? Well, you might have a programme for schools that you've made in your own region, specifically for your own region - for example, a programme in Welsh. But if you want to show that, you have got to opt out of the network feed and then opt back in again, afterwards.*
To that end, Anglia Television, the ITV based in Norwich, have stopped showing the network feed and have, therefore, been doing their own thing. Once they've done what they opted out for, they now have to wait until the network programme they opted out from, has finished.
In this instance, Anglia have waited for a bit and then chosen to opt back into the network feed pretty much at the earliest opportunity. As a result, if you're watching in the Anglia region, this will give you the impression of one 'follows shortly' slide, following another.
* (As an aside, you can't just opt out of schools programmes altogether and show something else, as there is an organisation called the IBA - the Independent Television Authority - who are in charge of all of the ITV regions. You have to get their permission to show a schools programme of your choosing, in place of one from the network feed.)
A faultless and comprehensive description. Many thanks.
Thanks Kevin - I read Transdiffusion, at www.transdiffusion.org , where Kif and Russ do all the research and explain the whole thing to the rest of us, in great detail.
@@ffibnogab7644 wasn't it great if you lived in an area where the regions overlapped. If you missed a programme one night you might be able to catch it another night
Copper and tin makes bronze
Love it educational informative and q reminder that we NEED industry fossil fuels and the modernity it provides....