I love to relax and surrender because it has assisted me in my stillness. I have learned, when I surrender, I literally see in thought, all that bothered me, wither away instantly...onto the next lesson. Love to all!
AS I WATCH THIS VIDEO, I REALIZE THAT I AM WATCHING THAT PART OF ME, AWAKENING ME FROM MY IGNORANCE! THANK GOD THAT "I" AM GOD WATCHING HIMSELF. IT IS NO MORE, I THINK SO I AM; IT IS NOW, I AM THE AWARENESS AND THAT WHICH I AM AWARE OF Peace
One more thing to add, only because of the profound impact this book has had on myself. The book was written by an Atheist Jewish woman who was not spiritual. She heard a prophetic voice and started writing it down. The book doesn't get caught up in the usual christian dogma. The focus is on dispelling our identity with the ego illusion. It feels like an intense cleansing. Most Christians are totally against this book, which claims the bible was written by dualistic minds.
@ZetanCrisp It doesn't matter if it happens, if you catch it that already is wonderful. Just don't let it get to you, the ego might say:" look how long youv been doing this? and im still here? why? what am i doing wrong etc etc" and your getting anxious and slowely stepping away from the now. never give in. sit down on your chair, let your left hand hang and just feel it, feel it tingle feel your fingers. do the same for the right hand and just notice and feel your hand. good exercise
Several years ago I got so completely sick of my mind. The process of acknowledging that my mind was boring and a waste of life, even acknowledging it to others, was weird but true. In that process I felt much of the muck that mind created just leave me, like a snake shedding it's skin. It became easier to not become attached as thoughts arose.
The thought of Maslows hierarchy comes to mind~security, belonging, esteem and self realization. Perhaps this oneness is the culmination of many easy to take for granted but essential scaffolds of culture and nature.If things go right we get Adyashanti.I'd guess Adya did not get severely traumatized as a child?
You are not your mind because you can observe your thoughts. Be the observer. Learn to control the chatter and not react. You are real and have free will. Never give that away to a belief. Truth requires no belief. Sir Whistler Bhagwan
@ZetanCrisp After trying many techniques and teachers I have found the greatest help from Byron Katie's and Adyashanti's inquiries and meditations. These are the most direct and quickest paths to realize reality and disengage from thoughts for me and many, many of my friends. Good luck ZetanCrisp and much love, Todd. Ps. Sri Nisargadatta kicks ass too! Stephen Wolinsky's "I am that I am" is a wonderful book of Nisargadatta's teachings.
If you want an awakening from a book I suggest A Course in Miracles. It's the most powerful book I've ever read (just my opinion). It has a Christian slant to it that may be off putting to some, but when you awaken it's all the same love. Plus it's the book that many "popular enlightened teachers" quote.
There are thousands of books that teach about sacred heaven. There are thousands of books that teach about the sacred earth, but the book with the answers is in our heart. Try not to wound another heart.
Thanks for post. I think the Christian slant might put me off (even though it probably shouldnt). However i bought Emptiness Dancing and i dont even seem to be reading that (probably cause i have a lot of work to do) so i wont buy another book for the mo. Thanks for reply! By the way I am Jewish. I am comfortable with a Jewish slant or Buddhist slant, but maybe less so for Christianity. Not sure why.
@ZetanCrisp i think to catch it happening is the work of it...my view. i think it might be better to think..."being awake" is a workout...like lifting weights. not that you strain, but you are always waking up to something? it seems so to me...blessings, j.
I have read all of his books and found all them to be great. But the one I liked the most was Emptiness Dancing. And yes because he is a realized master the writings in his book carry a very power energy that will change your state of mind from the moment you hold his book in your hand. Good Luck
@Divaz231 Thank you for your reply. It was helpful. Maybe I just need to learn to trust awareness. Or realize that there is no 'I' separate from awareness. Don't really know how that realization is supposed to happen. But then maybe that's the absurd nature of the spiritual quest.
Even if the car is the metaphor, I am still the driver when I choose to drive. I am not physically pushing the car, I am not injecting the gas into the cylinders but I have the control to choose where my car is going. Sometimes my car breaks down, or my steering acts up, but I am not going to throw the whole notion of being in control out the window. I try to fix things when I can or sell it and get a new one but I won't agree wholeheartedly with what this so called spiritual teacher is saying.
Your true nature is pure consciousness, it cannot die, as it has no begining, it has no end. Your sens of self will surely die, but what you truly are is not " something ". Look, we cannot understand what is beyond our mind when we are still stuck. When you realize your true nature, death is not more than a concept. Good luck, fellow!
well, that's the way it is but you still must inquire as to why it is that way. Who is the preceiver of these thoughts? to whom do these thoughts belong? if these thoughts are occurring that often there has to be something fueling them. figure out what that is so these mind attacks can be totally annihilated.
I get stuck on this: If i completley let go of all thoughts and surrender to 'gods' will, i just end up sat staring at a wall, i dont get up to eat, or do anything at all because nothing happens? Any impulse to do anything comes from a thought, which i've been told to surrender, so nothing happens?
I'm really excited because lately I've had moments where I really felt like I was watching myself play a role, kind of like an out-of-body experience kind of feeling. it helps because I take myself so seriously but when I get that kind of experience, it reminds me I'm not that big of a deal, and I can just relax. But is this "i" (that sees the other "i" live its life) the passenger? or is it the driver? I really don't know.
Thanks for replying. I seem to be stuck in an inbetween world where i can see that i create my thoughts, but i still get caught up in them. It goes around in circles, i just want to be completley 'awake' all the time but dont know how to stop getting swept away every 5 minutes and having to continuously catch it happening.... or is that just the way it is?
You can maybe go for awakening from a book....or you can just pick something, anything, and ask "what separates [x] from [not x]?" So pick a stone on the floor and ask "what separates the 'stone' from the 'not-stone'?" If you come up with something, then ask what separates the stone from this other something :oD
So I think he wrote at least two books. have you read any other of his books? (so you can compare them).. Or is that the only one you read. Does the book really change your state of mind dramatically, or is it more just interesting.. (maybe I expect too much from a book)
Well, I guess it isn't a secret any more! Now that the secrets out let's all be creators of illusory separate creations. Hel we can even say that "I" created this. Then we can continue pretending that we're all separate individuations. Good to know, b/c I had assumed that manifestation occured in order for these vehicles to 'realize' they're God and live as that. Now I can go back to getting lost in the never ending dualistic mind.
I actually really like this one. I had this thought a couple of days ago: What if whatever happened to me in my life so far that I didnt like and fighted. What if I didnt fight it???? Would anything change at that moment of happening? No!!! Would anything change after those situations? Most probably yes!!!!! And ONE thing IS for sure. I wouldnt suffer AT that moment.... Its mindblowing. The only thing I still cannot do is get myself to realise that at those moments. I do get it when I think of the past. I can project it to the future, but when shit happens I'm still too ego driven to see it so clearly.
It's a sign of the dawning age of Aquarius. Metahuman evolution giving birth to various entities. Some benevolent, some nefarious. Me, I'm riding passenger. Krishna's driving the chariot.
When I surrender to my "so called" self I become the victum of my own karmas. When I surrender to God the self I thought I was becomes a mirage in the Deep Sea of Spritual Tranmisssion.
Thank you but I have. I have visited Ashrams of Ramana Maharshi, I have spent many mornings and afternoons with Zen Masters and meditated deeply within myself so to speak. I am experienced. You have seemed to draw conclusions from a certain technique. The I that you speak of arises in my body, it's not located in one exact point but it works more like a network from different parts, this includes memories (good+bad) experiences, knowledge etc. This collectively forms ME.
We're not driving our car???! That part really got to me... some of these spiritual people... smh. He must've gotten in a car accident and told himself that ultimately it wasn't his fault "because it wasn't really him driving"... okay. Please, someone explain what he means by this. Osho said a lot of BS as well but he later admitted that what he said wasn't all true it was just to get people to listen to him.
Look, arguing only goes so far, I'll sum it up like this: you either let life happen to you, or you make things happen. I want people to know these options which they have the power to make. That's it. You can call me wrong I don't care.
Unless you realize that your mind is not your being and you are the soul or spirit you are ego driven and controlled by everything around you. your reacting to it all. Your masters have made sure you don't see this. Just believe it's all adream and go with the flow. Sure as they want you to do.
Yet you can tell me I can't choose to drive or not to drive? That makes no sense, I know there is a self and I take responsibility of it. You choose to ignore it apparently and call it an illusion. That's your call but I disagree.
Jesus. Adya put things so clear
I love to relax and surrender because it has assisted me in my stillness. I have learned, when I surrender, I literally see in thought, all that bothered me, wither away instantly...onto the next lesson.
Love to all!
Crazy that the prescription for success in our society also happens to be the prescription for human suffering.
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AS I WATCH THIS VIDEO, I REALIZE THAT I AM WATCHING THAT PART OF ME, AWAKENING ME FROM MY IGNORANCE!
THANK GOD THAT "I" AM GOD WATCHING HIMSELF. IT IS NO MORE, I THINK SO I AM; IT IS NOW, I AM THE AWARENESS AND THAT WHICH I AM AWARE OF
Peace
One more thing to add, only because of the profound impact this book has had on myself. The book was written by an Atheist Jewish woman who was not spiritual. She heard a prophetic voice and started writing it down. The book doesn't get caught up in the usual christian dogma. The focus is on dispelling our identity with the ego illusion. It feels like an intense cleansing. Most Christians are totally against this book, which claims the bible was written by dualistic minds.
Embryo speaks such a deep heritage the give self a beginning to speak
@ZetanCrisp
It doesn't matter if it happens, if you catch it that already is wonderful. Just don't let it get to you, the ego might say:" look how long youv been doing this? and im still here? why? what am i doing wrong etc etc" and your getting anxious and slowely stepping away from the now. never give in.
sit down on your chair, let your left hand hang and just feel it, feel it tingle feel your fingers. do the same for the right hand and just notice and feel your hand. good exercise
Several years ago I got so completely sick of my mind. The process of acknowledging that my mind was boring and a waste of life, even acknowledging it to others, was weird but true. In that process I felt much of the muck that mind created just leave me, like a snake shedding it's skin. It became easier to not become attached as thoughts arose.
Thanks I'll probably order it. (nice title)
The thought of Maslows hierarchy comes to mind~security, belonging, esteem and self realization. Perhaps this oneness is the culmination of many easy to take for granted but essential scaffolds of culture and nature.If things go right we get Adyashanti.I'd guess Adya did not get severely traumatized as a child?
Yes, yes, yes...this is what the 6th Patriarch of Zen Buddhism scrawled on the wall of the temple.
You are not your mind because you can observe your thoughts. Be the observer. Learn to control the chatter and not react. You are real and have free will. Never give that away to a belief. Truth requires no belief. Sir Whistler Bhagwan
@ZetanCrisp After trying many techniques and teachers I have found the greatest help from Byron Katie's and Adyashanti's inquiries and meditations. These are the most direct and quickest paths to realize reality and disengage from thoughts for me and many, many of my friends. Good luck ZetanCrisp and much love, Todd. Ps. Sri Nisargadatta kicks ass too! Stephen Wolinsky's "I am that I am" is a wonderful book of Nisargadatta's teachings.
If you want an awakening from a book I suggest A Course in Miracles. It's the most powerful book I've ever read (just my opinion). It has a Christian slant to it that may be off putting to some, but when you awaken it's all the same love. Plus it's the book that many "popular enlightened teachers" quote.
Emerson's "Transparent Eyeball"
One.
+BRIERFOX
Yes, a fitting if slightly bizarre, even grotesque image.
Emptiness Dancing - Great Book
So, I surrendered any control about thirty years ago and apart from paying off karma at a greatly accelerated rate not much has happened.
There are thousands of books that teach about sacred heaven. There are thousands of books that teach about the sacred earth, but the book with the answers is in our heart. Try not to wound another heart.
Thanks for post. I think the Christian slant might put me off (even though it probably shouldnt). However i bought Emptiness Dancing and i dont even seem to be reading that (probably cause i have a lot of work to do) so i wont buy another book for the mo.
Thanks for reply!
By the way I am Jewish. I am comfortable with a Jewish slant or Buddhist slant, but maybe less so for Christianity. Not sure why.
@ZetanCrisp i think to catch it happening is the work of it...my view. i think it might be better to think..."being awake" is a workout...like lifting weights. not that you strain, but you are always waking up to something? it seems so to me...blessings, j.
@ZetanCrisp Its the way it is....for a while. Continue :)
I have read all of his books and found all them to be great. But the one I liked the most was Emptiness Dancing. And yes because he is a realized master the writings in his book carry a very power energy that will change your state of mind from the moment you hold his book in your hand. Good Luck
Ok, get car analogy. How do we learn to take our hands off wheel ??
@Divaz231 Thank you for your reply. It was helpful. Maybe I just need to learn to trust awareness. Or realize that there is no 'I' separate from awareness. Don't really know how that realization is supposed to happen. But then maybe that's the absurd nature of the spiritual quest.
Even if the car is the metaphor, I am still the driver when I choose to drive. I am not physically pushing the car, I am not injecting the gas into the cylinders but I have the control to choose where my car is going. Sometimes my car breaks down, or my steering acts up, but I am not going to throw the whole notion of being in control out the window. I try to fix things when I can or sell it and get a new one but I won't agree wholeheartedly with what this so called spiritual teacher is saying.
Does adyashanti ever cry?
Yes....
Your true nature is pure consciousness, it cannot die, as it has no begining, it has no end. Your sens of self will surely die, but what you truly are is not " something ". Look, we cannot understand what is beyond our mind when we are still stuck. When you realize your true nature, death is not more than a concept.
Good luck, fellow!
Didn't this used to be over an hour long?
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well, that's the way it is but you still must inquire as to why it is that way. Who is the preceiver of these thoughts? to whom do these thoughts belong? if these thoughts are occurring that often there has to be something fueling them. figure out what that is so these mind attacks can be totally annihilated.
If choose to buy a book by this man which is the best choice?
If you completely let go of all thoughts and surrender to 'gods' will, don't ask any questions, just let it be.
I get stuck on this:
If i completley let go of all thoughts and surrender to 'gods' will, i just end up sat staring at a wall, i dont get up to eat, or do anything at all because nothing happens? Any impulse to do anything comes from a thought, which i've been told to surrender, so nothing happens?
Can someone please explain how this is different from just being passive?
Did you get awakening from his book?
I'm really excited because lately I've had moments where I really felt like I was watching myself play a role, kind of like an out-of-body experience kind of feeling. it helps because I take myself so seriously but when I get that kind of experience, it reminds me I'm not that big of a deal, and I can just relax.
But is this "i" (that sees the other "i" live its life) the passenger? or is it the driver? I really don't know.
Thanks for replying.
I seem to be stuck in an inbetween world where i can see that i create my thoughts, but i still get caught up in them. It goes around in circles, i just want to be completley 'awake' all the time but dont know how to stop getting swept away every 5 minutes and having to continuously catch it happening.... or is that just the way it is?
You can maybe go for awakening from a book....or you can just pick something, anything, and ask "what separates [x] from [not x]?"
So pick a stone on the floor and ask "what separates the 'stone' from the 'not-stone'?" If you come up with something, then ask what separates the stone from this other something :oD
ok good..but how can the illusionary me let go out an illusionary me? it happens by itself surely!
So I think he wrote at least two books. have you read any other of his books? (so you can compare them).. Or is that the only one you read.
Does the book really change your state of mind dramatically, or is it more just interesting.. (maybe I expect too much from a book)
Well, I guess it isn't a secret any more! Now that the secrets out let's all be creators of illusory separate creations. Hel we can even say that "I" created this. Then we can continue pretending that we're all separate individuations. Good to know, b/c I had assumed that manifestation occured in order for these vehicles to 'realize' they're God and live as that. Now I can go back to getting lost in the never ending dualistic mind.
I actually really like this one. I had this thought a couple of days ago: What if whatever happened to me in my life so far that I didnt like and fighted. What if I didnt fight it???? Would anything change at that moment of happening? No!!! Would anything change after those situations? Most probably yes!!!!! And ONE thing IS for sure. I wouldnt suffer AT that moment.... Its mindblowing. The only thing I still cannot do is get myself to realise that at those moments. I do get it when I think of the past. I can project it to the future, but when shit happens I'm still too ego driven to see it so clearly.
what does it mean to surrender? To give up free will?
I think its to USE your free will to give up sufering...
It's a sign of the dawning age of Aquarius. Metahuman evolution giving birth to various entities. Some benevolent, some nefarious. Me, I'm riding passenger. Krishna's driving the chariot.
@ZetanCrisp haha :-) the point here is You don't create your thoughts at all! You only think YOU created them, because you're still in the driverseat.
wow very inspiring talk :)
The former comment was in response to the mind informed mind-body: buffedtrainer.
When I surrender to my "so called" self I become the victum of my own karmas. When I surrender to God the self I thought I was becomes a mirage in the Deep Sea of Spritual Tranmisssion.
Good luck to you too.
I like the metaphor, driving through life in a car. ..onto a perpetual destination.
Thank you but I have. I have visited Ashrams of Ramana Maharshi, I have spent many mornings and afternoons with Zen Masters and meditated deeply within myself so to speak. I am experienced. You have seemed to draw conclusions from a certain technique. The I that you speak of arises in my body, it's not located in one exact point but it works more like a network from different parts, this includes memories (good+bad) experiences, knowledge etc. This collectively forms ME.
We're not driving our car???! That part really got to me... some of these spiritual people... smh. He must've gotten in a car accident and told himself that ultimately it wasn't his fault "because it wasn't really him driving"... okay. Please, someone explain what he means by this. Osho said a lot of BS as well but he later admitted that what he said wasn't all true it was just to get people to listen to him.
Look, arguing only goes so far, I'll sum it up like this: you either let life happen to you, or you make things happen. I want people to know these options which they have the power to make. That's it. You can call me wrong I don't care.
Bhai sab zindagi barbad kardi ya dal kar.ab tho kuth khushi karna pada ga
Unless you realize that your mind is not your being and you are the soul or spirit you are ego driven and controlled by everything around you. your reacting to it all. Your masters have made sure you don't see this. Just believe it's all adream and go with the flow. Sure as they want you to do.
Yet you can tell me I can't choose to drive or not to drive? That makes no sense, I know there is a self and I take responsibility of it. You choose to ignore it apparently and call it an illusion. That's your call but I disagree.
is he on trial lol?
0.15 and 0.45 😂😂🤣🤣🤣
We don't even exist.
Do you even have a point? If not, good luck.
go google living waters and take the good test!
haha :D
Just stop!