How about a mixed surface (road, gravel & easy single track) bike race between Anna, Manon & Heather on a course designed by James, Neill and Simon. Pretty sure that would be fairly entertaining.
Wonder Woman did it!! Love the.. ‘I’m not that fit’ after doing 90% of an Ironman with no fuel. Go Heather!! Manon.. rocked it too with only a 200k under her belt 😜 💪🏽.
My friend who rode at national level told me aero tuck position alone gives 3 min advantage over 40 ITT, add in disk wheel, aero helmet and tri suit and overshoes, plus aero tri TT bike, shows less power plus aero translates to faster time of more than 1 min over 10kms. Great fun video!
It would be interesting to see both ladies on the same bike set-up as this video, but with Manon picking a road-favourable course with climbing, descending and tight corners.
@@lawrenceginete1030 Not really, their power outputs in this video were very similar and a road bike enables you to have a fraction more power output because of the position. A really big factor is who is fit.
@@matthewbaynham6286 a pro cyclist is going to be much more aero on a road bike which is the biggest difference in performance. Add in the fact that Manon is/was a sprinter and you realize that she just needs to be able to draft to the end and will always win a sprint finish Heather will win longer efforts, especially if they're unable to draft each other. Manon will beast any sprint finish or shorter effort
wow - well done both!! I'm hugely impressed how much the aero devices seem to have worked out especially considering that Manon pushed a few more watts!!
AYYY Congrats Heather! Cool seeing how much difference of aero when power is pretty similar. I've always been impressed at the avg. speeds Tri reaches compared to TT specific racing considering with Tri there's a race beforehand and after still. I'd be intrigued for a collab vid of GTN-GCN crew going through the differences in disciplines lets say 2hrs Tri-Road-TT. So roughly 30min Swim, 2hr Ride, 90min Run Triathlon Vs 2hr Time Trial Vs 2hr Road stage with 1,000m of up at the end, and what that means in changes for trainings, fuelling, ideal target zones... and so on.
Got to do what you got to do. bravo to both Manon and Heather. Money on aero is wasted unless you have the fitness to support. I would love the whole set up of Heathers bike, including the bike for my next race but I got to stay with what I can afford and have fun at all times. Loved the video.
I now have something in common with Manon and know how she feels, having seen Heather blast past me at Blenheim when she did the Weekend Warrior. Well done Heather!👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
It's a pretty silly test, yes we know aero bikes are far quicker on a flat course as drag is the biggest form of resistance. Give Manon the same kit/bike and see what happens, in theory she has less experience on a tt bike.
Fantastic race between 2 very competitive athletes and best friends. Heather is looking lean. Looking forward to seeing more great races and challenges 😃
I watched a film on Netflix the other day called ‘Onboard The Transcontinental Race’ and was gob smacked by the dedication of the riders, no medals or honours just the thrill of doing the race. I’d love to see someone from GCN preferably Manon do it! 😎🚴♂️😎🚴♂️
At 9:17 Heather just behind her. When I did a triathlon relay last week in Niagara Falls, I used my road bike and I will be remember the disk wheel’s sound! Great and what an interesting match up! Heather and Manon are great cyclists! Thank you GCN..
I put clip-on TT bars on my road bike and was surprised about the benefits. I don't use them as a radical change from my general riding position but use them more as an addition, e.g. when pushing myself, saving energy in a more aerodynamic position, be able to ride harder ⚙️ gears etc.
Impressive efforts, and equally impressive to see what a difference the aerodynamics make! As to fitness, it is clearly a relative thing... I'm as fit as I've ever been, and Manon still beat my pb over 10k by a good minute 😃 I'll clearly have to start commuting to my gymnastics sessions on a TT bike wearing a skin suite to compensate...
if it's a flatish course, W/KG has nearly no relevance. Only outright wattage output matters. The aero positioning would have accounted for almost the entire variance ~ about 4-5km/ h in aero bar position vs road bike
Fucking hell Heather you're blowing my mind each week with these performances! But quick question from one who's yet to get on the bike. When you're going that fast with your head down, what happens if a car starts backing out of its driveway?
A tale of two countries. American 1: " I'm great" American 2: "I'm even better" American 1: "I'm the best" American 2: "I'm the bestetest" British person 1: "I suck, I'm sorry" British person 1: "No, no, I'm sorry, I suck worse" British person 1: "Tea?" British person 2: "Ta" The end.
That was a really great matchup! No the fact that GTN won (which I enjoyed, I'm not gonna lie 😁) but the effort of both of you put into it. Congrats to both! 💪😎
Manon rocks always enjoy her vids, and watched Heather for first time attempt her Triathlon on zero food and really impressed , these ladies hard-core 💪
I'm three minutes in and both parties are saying that they've done no training, their not as fit as they used to be... I mean it's what 'everybody' says on race day. If you win great, you're way better than your peers. If you lose, well you've been doing nowt.
I'm disappointed in Manon's performance. Never mind Manon at least the GCN viewers easily forget embarrassing defeats very quickly, ask Ollie it took hardly any time at all until all the viewers forgot about him getting dropped.
Love these Challenges. Great content👍 But why do you (all included) always downplay your fitness?? You always talk about how you haven’t trained, your not fit etc. etc. You all have fitness most of us normal humans can only Dream of.
What other cross-channel battles would you like to see?
All of them
How about a mixed surface (road, gravel & easy single track) bike race between Anna, Manon & Heather on a course designed by James, Neill and Simon. Pretty sure that would be fairly entertaining.
To the Track!! Also a 3 person triathlon relay.
I’d like to see the rivalry taken to a velodrome.
We need Mark vs Si and James vs Hank....... Either individually or as a relay
Wonder Woman did it!! Love the.. ‘I’m not that fit’ after doing 90% of an Ironman with no fuel. Go Heather!! Manon.. rocked it too with only a 200k under her belt 😜 💪🏽.
They grossly underestimate themselves. And are a little too modest.
Correction, 96% 😁 but yes Heather should be banned from saying “I’m not that fit” 😂
tri bike positioning gives about a 4-5km /h aerodynamic advantage. They should be using the same gear.
@@shamuslamont100 Well Manon lost but had a higher 100% power output which illustrates the gear was the difference.
GCN always does their best to say "expensive bikes doesn't make you faster." while GTN always wants to say "if you're rich you're fast." 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
that's soo true
I love the challenges with Manon and the other presenters from GCN! Good job for both of you, girls!
My friend who rode at national level told me aero tuck position alone gives 3 min advantage over 40 ITT, add in disk wheel, aero helmet and tri suit and overshoes, plus aero tri TT bike, shows less power plus aero translates to faster time of more than 1 min over 10kms.
Great fun video!
It would be interesting to see both ladies on the same bike set-up as this video, but with Manon picking a road-favourable course with climbing, descending and tight corners.
Yes Yes. Outstanding idea, make that happen.
Manon would trash Heather. 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
i just wanna see more of these races
@@lawrenceginete1030 Not really, their power outputs in this video were very similar and a road bike enables you to have a fraction more power output because of the position.
A really big factor is who is fit.
@@matthewbaynham6286 a pro cyclist is going to be much more aero on a road bike which is the biggest difference in performance. Add in the fact that Manon is/was a sprinter and you realize that she just needs to be able to draft to the end and will always win a sprint finish
Heather will win longer efforts, especially if they're unable to draft each other. Manon will beast any sprint finish or shorter effort
Love a good grudge match. Well done Heather and Manon.
Gotta get Heather an aero suit. Next video: Aero suits, how much difference do they make over 50k ride (at constant pace)?
wow - well done both!! I'm hugely impressed how much the aero devices seem to have worked out especially considering that Manon pushed a few more watts!!
Great to watch, looking forward to Ollies take on how to make Manon faster!
Ollies need to make himeself faster, did you not watch the 4 vs 1/5 vs 1 time trial bike vs road bike series? :)
AYYY Congrats Heather! Cool seeing how much difference of aero when power is pretty similar. I've always been impressed at the avg. speeds Tri reaches compared to TT specific racing considering with Tri there's a race beforehand and after still.
I'd be intrigued for a collab vid of GTN-GCN crew going through the differences in disciplines lets say 2hrs Tri-Road-TT.
So roughly 30min Swim, 2hr Ride, 90min Run Triathlon Vs 2hr Time Trial Vs 2hr Road stage with 1,000m of up at the end, and what that means in changes for trainings, fuelling, ideal target zones... and so on.
I feel as though I would need a 10 minute head start to compete with either one of those bad ass ladies
I'd take a 10 minute head start on a 20 minute course with them
See what happens Triathlete wears socks.
Got to do what you got to do. bravo to both Manon and Heather. Money on aero is wasted unless you have the fitness to support. I would love the whole set up of Heathers bike, including the bike for my next race but I got to stay with what I can afford and have fun at all times. Loved the video.
I now have something in common with Manon and know how she feels, having seen Heather blast past me at Blenheim when she did the Weekend Warrior.
Well done Heather!👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
After accidentally starting this weeks Zwift TTT on a road bike, I can attest that this result was a rather inevitable. #knifegunfight - Andy
I think Manon's problem was pacing. 300W on the early section with an overall average of 217W? No one Heather came past super easy.
I'm not sure Heather could've stacked the deck better in her favour. It would be good to see TT road rig vs Tri-bike rig, roadie vs triathlete.
Get Simon versus Mark
It's a pretty silly test, yes we know aero bikes are far quicker on a flat course as drag is the biggest form of resistance. Give Manon the same kit/bike and see what happens, in theory she has less experience on a tt bike.
12:40 looks like you have a new channel subscriber just behind manon 🤣🤣
It must be noted, Heather, that you are MUCH fitter than the last time. Keep up the awesome content.
Manon in a triathlon next?
+1
While wearing a bikini 👙!
Fun video. Really enjoyed your competitive spirits. Great job!
Fantastic race between 2 very competitive athletes and best friends. Heather is looking lean. Looking forward to seeing more great races and challenges 😃
I watched a film on Netflix the other day called ‘Onboard The Transcontinental Race’ and was gob smacked by the dedication of the riders, no medals or honours just the thrill of doing the race. I’d love to see someone from GCN preferably Manon do it! 😎🚴♂️😎🚴♂️
Doesn’t seem to be on Netflix, at least not in the US :/
As much as I love watching Mark’s challenges, it is high time James flexed his cycling muscles against Cycling’s Si in some wacky challenge.
Put Mannon in a skin suit, areo helmet and a time trial bike and find out what happens.
'Maybe another time' (about switching bikes), YES PLEASE!!!
Swop bikes and do the time trial again :)
Great race Heather & Manon.
What will Dr Bridgewood say? But more importantly Sachin's tweaks would be good to hear too!!
@13:01 "thank you for coming out and letting me thoroughly kick your arse" 😅
Like a modern day re-enactment of when Lemond beat Fignon.
At 9:17 Heather just behind her. When I did a triathlon relay last week in Niagara Falls, I used my road bike and I will be remember the disk wheel’s sound! Great and what an interesting match up! Heather and Manon are great cyclists! Thank you GCN..
These 2 work together really well.
i like the friendly races, but a little disappointed that this really was not a heads up race.
Now 217W vs 209W, last time: 260W vs 225W ( th-cam.com/video/er2fcvGijFo/w-d-xo.html )
I don't care what you all do! It's freaking awesome! Throw Manon in the water!
I missed the junkyard dog! Great Vid ;)
This makes me wonder why I do my weekend rides on my road bike instead of my triathlon bike.
I put clip-on TT bars on my road bike and was surprised about the benefits. I don't use them as a radical change from my general riding position but use them more as an addition, e.g. when pushing myself, saving energy in a more aerodynamic position, be able to ride harder ⚙️ gears etc.
Impressive efforts, and equally impressive to see what a difference the aerodynamics make!
As to fitness, it is clearly a relative thing... I'm as fit as I've ever been, and Manon still beat my pb over 10k by a good minute 😃 I'll clearly have to start commuting to my gymnastics sessions on a TT bike wearing a skin suite to compensate...
Good ride Manon!! Always enjoy your efforts and great enthusiasm in all your videos, keep making cyclists proud around the world.
This should be a 6 monthly event !!
Watts are nice, but watts per kilogram would be more accurate. Maybe show that next time.
The relevance of that would depend on how hilly the course was
ah the time tested tradition of starting every group ride with excuses and explanations of why each of us are "not very fit at the moment"
I love it when cyclists challenge each other to cycle more, what a great world to live in where we can share our passion to ride.
if Manon goes bend ellbows, she can save 5 watts i believe
would have like to have the W/KG to get a real sense of how much the aero adaptations helped
if it's a flatish course, W/KG has nearly no relevance. Only outright wattage output matters. The aero positioning would have accounted for almost the entire variance ~ about 4-5km/ h in aero bar position vs road bike
Heather is awesome. Manon is cool. Bish bash bosh.
awesome race. enjoyed. would like to see u 2 in same type of bike. 👍🙏
@1:13 new tactic from Heather... don't tell Manon the route 😅
Get Heather on the Track. Pusuit challenge
Great sportswomanship between the two!!! Amazing,. 👍🏻😎💯💥👌🏻❤️
I'd like to see a three way tussle between Moe Howard, Larry Fine and Curly Howard. That'd bring the crowds back
Very Interesting 🤔
Great video. Can we recreate the exact same thing again but give Manon some clip-on TT bars? 🤞
Fucking hell Heather you're blowing my mind each week with these performances! But quick question from one who's yet to get on the bike. When you're going that fast with your head down, what happens if a car starts backing out of its driveway?
You try to evade and slow down, if possible.
You could end up like Egan Bernal.
A road bike vs a triathlon (TT) bike is a bit of a cheat for GTN.
I like to think that the UK has great roads like this everywhere with lamas in everyone's backyard
Right!
Now Mark vs Ollie. Whip their road-rider butts, whip 'em!
Ollie is a traitor.😐
Bit unfair on the choices of equipment. Not apples for apples
I love both and customer of them both in on-line shopping.
Manon needs to pick a hill climb to try to minimize the aero gains.
#Challenge. Climbing on a single speed. Not necessarily fixed gear but LIFE IN ONE GEAR!
My two favorite Lady's on TH-cam 😃
Heather rode well, but there was a massive equipment difference
A tale of two countries.
American 1: " I'm great"
American 2: "I'm even better"
American 1: "I'm the best"
American 2: "I'm the bestetest"
British person 1: "I suck, I'm sorry"
British person 1: "No, no, I'm sorry, I suck worse"
British person 1: "Tea?"
British person 2: "Ta"
The end.
Love these cross channel events, however equipment makes a big difference, next time kit manon out in full TT kit
Seemed a bit of a mismatch really, clearly aero was going to take it...
But didn’t happen in first one😌. This time yes because of heather used all the advantages she can..
@@lionden4 she also put a lot of power. 209 watts in a TT position requires more effort than 217 on a road bike.
@@igoryan1111 strong cyclists!.
That was a really great matchup! No the fact that GTN won (which I enjoyed, I'm not gonna lie 😁) but the effort of both of you put into it. Congrats to both! 💪😎
Superbike without Superbike Price tag!!
I have that shirt now 🥳🥳🥳! I will tap into my inner Heather to be fast 😃.
Manon rocks always enjoy her vids, and watched Heather for first time attempt her Triathlon on zero food and really impressed , these ladies hard-core 💪
honest question, why should I buy a road bike, when I can ride a tt bike and be faster and more comfortable ?
I'm three minutes in and both parties are saying that they've done no training, their not as fit as they used to be... I mean it's what 'everybody' says on race day. If you win great, you're way better than your peers. If you lose, well you've been doing nowt.
Racing is racing. Question is distance. And bike capabilities.
Awesome win Heather love the video
Surprised to see Manon using Ultegra mechanical 😬 Go mechanical 👍🏼
Here comes the time trial vs tri bike
Heather you're looking super fit!
I love this one Heather!!!!
The canyon bike is angelic
What is the weight difference? That would tell us more about watts per kilo rather than just watts.
Make it long 100miles and no food since the night before, manon would get thrashed.
fun but not fair
are they on 650b wheels?
I'm disappointed in Manon's performance.
Never mind Manon at least the GCN viewers easily forget embarrassing defeats very quickly, ask Ollie it took hardly any time at all until all the viewers forgot about him getting dropped.
Gravel challenge next?
I think Manon got stitched up there!
Heather needs to get a bike fit! Could get wayy more aero 🤙
Way to go Heather!!
great video and all but... 19 minutes for 10k seems a bit slow for such fit women. Also, 10k in 19 minutes doesn't quite equate to 36kmph, or does it?
So Manon used more power and lost. Feels like cheating. Shows the benefits of the tech, validates the research.
I just realized... I hold the lower bars like manon.
Do the swim next!
go heatherrrr, goooo triathleteesss
Love these Challenges. Great content👍
But why do you (all included) always downplay your fitness?? You always talk about how you haven’t trained, your not fit etc. etc.
You all have fitness most of us normal humans can only Dream of.
Manon just have not recovered from the long ass gravel race.
The Challenge of The Olympians!...
For 10K, you can survive even without a water bottle!
How about a neutral event like Tough Mudders 😃