GTN Vs GCN: The Rematch | Can Heather Beat Manon In A Bike Race?

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  • Last year, Heather took on Manon from GCN in a cycling race, which she lost - something which she has not forgotten! Earlier this year, they battled again in a duathlon, but now we want to take things back to the start for the big rematch: GTN vs GCN on the bike! Will Heather be able to get the better of Manon this time?
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  • @gtn
    @gtn  ปีที่แล้ว +19

    What other cross-channel battles would you like to see?

    • @David-qx8jm
      @David-qx8jm ปีที่แล้ว +3

      All of them

    • @kulvianshun
      @kulvianshun ปีที่แล้ว

      How about a mixed surface (road, gravel & easy single track) bike race between Anna, Manon & Heather on a course designed by James, Neill and Simon. Pretty sure that would be fairly entertaining.

    • @donaldrieger381
      @donaldrieger381 ปีที่แล้ว

      To the Track!! Also a 3 person triathlon relay.

    • @MrAndrewClaycomb
      @MrAndrewClaycomb ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I’d like to see the rivalry taken to a velodrome.

    • @andytaylor_music
      @andytaylor_music ปีที่แล้ว +1

      We need Mark vs Si and James vs Hank....... Either individually or as a relay

  • @lawrenceginete1030
    @lawrenceginete1030 ปีที่แล้ว +41

    GCN always does their best to say "expensive bikes doesn't make you faster." while GTN always wants to say "if you're rich you're fast." 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

  • @ngdawgs1
    @ngdawgs1 ปีที่แล้ว +93

    Wonder Woman did it!! Love the.. ‘I’m not that fit’ after doing 90% of an Ironman with no fuel. Go Heather!! Manon.. rocked it too with only a 200k under her belt 😜 💪🏽.

    • @triscuitbiscuit
      @triscuitbiscuit ปีที่แล้ว +4

      They grossly underestimate themselves. And are a little too modest.

    • @juliustan1494
      @juliustan1494 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Correction, 96% 😁 but yes Heather should be banned from saying “I’m not that fit” 😂

    • @shamuslamont100
      @shamuslamont100 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      tri bike positioning gives about a 4-5km /h aerodynamic advantage. They should be using the same gear.

  • @runruntours
    @runruntours ปีที่แล้ว +34

    I love the challenges with Manon and the other presenters from GCN! Good job for both of you, girls!

  • @andrewmcalister3462
    @andrewmcalister3462 ปีที่แล้ว +50

    It would be interesting to see both ladies on the same bike set-up as this video, but with Manon picking a road-favourable course with climbing, descending and tight corners.

    • @kidkarbon4775
      @kidkarbon4775 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yes Yes. Outstanding idea, make that happen.

    • @lawrenceginete1030
      @lawrenceginete1030 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Manon would trash Heather. 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

    • @artemisxo6734
      @artemisxo6734 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      i just wanna see more of these races

    • @matthewbaynham6286
      @matthewbaynham6286 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@lawrenceginete1030 Not really, their power outputs in this video were very similar and a road bike enables you to have a fraction more power output because of the position.
      A really big factor is who is fit.

    • @nk-dw2hm
      @nk-dw2hm ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@matthewbaynham6286 a pro cyclist is going to be much more aero on a road bike which is the biggest difference in performance. Add in the fact that Manon is/was a sprinter and you realize that she just needs to be able to draft to the end and will always win a sprint finish
      Heather will win longer efforts, especially if they're unable to draft each other. Manon will beast any sprint finish or shorter effort

  • @frankchan5547
    @frankchan5547 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    My friend who rode at national level told me aero tuck position alone gives 3 min advantage over 40 ITT, add in disk wheel, aero helmet and tri suit and overshoes, plus aero tri TT bike, shows less power plus aero translates to faster time of more than 1 min over 10kms.
    Great fun video!

  • @andrewmcalister3462
    @andrewmcalister3462 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Love a good grudge match. Well done Heather and Manon.

  • @67er_matze97
    @67er_matze97 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    wow - well done both!! I'm hugely impressed how much the aero devices seem to have worked out especially considering that Manon pushed a few more watts!!

  • @brandonlarkin3358
    @brandonlarkin3358 ปีที่แล้ว

    Fun video. Really enjoyed your competitive spirits. Great job!

  • @rcuadro
    @rcuadro ปีที่แล้ว +16

    I feel as though I would need a 10 minute head start to compete with either one of those bad ass ladies

    • @nk-dw2hm
      @nk-dw2hm ปีที่แล้ว

      I'd take a 10 minute head start on a 20 minute course with them

  • @KenSmith-bv4si
    @KenSmith-bv4si ปีที่แล้ว +7

    See what happens Triathlete wears socks.

  • @DiscoStu1970
    @DiscoStu1970 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Gotta get Heather an aero suit. Next video: Aero suits, how much difference do they make over 50k ride (at constant pace)?

  • @raywall1
    @raywall1 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Fantastic race between 2 very competitive athletes and best friends. Heather is looking lean. Looking forward to seeing more great races and challenges 😃

  • @jaredjames7990
    @jaredjames7990 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Good ride Manon!! Always enjoy your efforts and great enthusiasm in all your videos, keep making cyclists proud around the world.

  • @two-eyedRoy
    @two-eyedRoy ปีที่แล้ว +1

    AYYY Congrats Heather! Cool seeing how much difference of aero when power is pretty similar. I've always been impressed at the avg. speeds Tri reaches compared to TT specific racing considering with Tri there's a race beforehand and after still.
    I'd be intrigued for a collab vid of GTN-GCN crew going through the differences in disciplines lets say 2hrs Tri-Road-TT.
    So roughly 30min Swim, 2hr Ride, 90min Run Triathlon Vs 2hr Time Trial Vs 2hr Road stage with 1,000m of up at the end, and what that means in changes for trainings, fuelling, ideal target zones... and so on.

  • @debasishsen9397
    @debasishsen9397 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    awesome race. enjoyed. would like to see u 2 in same type of bike. 👍🙏

  • @SBoots29
    @SBoots29 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Got to do what you got to do. bravo to both Manon and Heather. Money on aero is wasted unless you have the fitness to support. I would love the whole set up of Heathers bike, including the bike for my next race but I got to stay with what I can afford and have fun at all times. Loved the video.

  • @jasonree
    @jasonree ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Great to watch, looking forward to Ollies take on how to make Manon faster!

    • @mracer8
      @mracer8 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Ollies need to make himeself faster, did you not watch the 4 vs 1/5 vs 1 time trial bike vs road bike series? :)

  • @the_trooper_72
    @the_trooper_72 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great sportswomanship between the two!!! Amazing,. 👍🏻😎💯💥👌🏻❤️

  • @boriss.861
    @boriss.861 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great race Heather & Manon.
    What will Dr Bridgewood say? But more importantly Sachin's tweaks would be good to hear too!!

  • @bikeanddogtrips
    @bikeanddogtrips ปีที่แล้ว +4

    12:40 looks like you have a new channel subscriber just behind manon 🤣🤣

  • @kurre_kallkvist
    @kurre_kallkvist ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Impressive efforts, and equally impressive to see what a difference the aerodynamics make!
    As to fitness, it is clearly a relative thing... I'm as fit as I've ever been, and Manon still beat my pb over 10k by a good minute 😃 I'll clearly have to start commuting to my gymnastics sessions on a TT bike wearing a skin suite to compensate...

  • @morganhaynes6125
    @morganhaynes6125 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    It must be noted, Heather, that you are MUCH fitter than the last time. Keep up the awesome content.

  • @ocbyn
    @ocbyn ปีที่แล้ว

    These 2 work together really well.

  • @Andrew_smart100
    @Andrew_smart100 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    After accidentally starting this weeks Zwift TTT on a road bike, I can attest that this result was a rather inevitable. #knifegunfight - Andy

  • @colinb8327
    @colinb8327 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I now have something in common with Manon and know how she feels, having seen Heather blast past me at Blenheim when she did the Weekend Warrior.
    Well done Heather!👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

  • @markbphilip
    @markbphilip ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Manon in a triathlon next?

  • @TheSeanJohnston
    @TheSeanJohnston ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Swop bikes and do the time trial again :)

  • @davicito2001gu
    @davicito2001gu ปีที่แล้ว

    That was a really great matchup! No the fact that GTN won (which I enjoyed, I'm not gonna lie 😁) but the effort of both of you put into it. Congrats to both! 💪😎

  • @phop3449
    @phop3449 ปีที่แล้ว

    I missed the junkyard dog! Great Vid ;)

  • @mikew6840
    @mikew6840 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    As much as I love watching Mark’s challenges, it is high time James flexed his cycling muscles against Cycling’s Si in some wacky challenge.

  • @nicolasdomise
    @nicolasdomise ปีที่แล้ว

    'Maybe another time' (about switching bikes), YES PLEASE!!!

  • @firstnamelastname2669
    @firstnamelastname2669 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I think Manon's problem was pacing. 300W on the early section with an overall average of 217W? No one Heather came past super easy.

  • @lionden4
    @lionden4 ปีที่แล้ว

    At 9:17 Heather just behind her. When I did a triathlon relay last week in Niagara Falls, I used my road bike and I will be remember the disk wheel’s sound! Great and what an interesting match up! Heather and Manon are great cyclists! Thank you GCN..

  • @user-cx2bk6pm2f
    @user-cx2bk6pm2f 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    @13:01 "thank you for coming out and letting me thoroughly kick your arse" 😅

  • @ronbyers9912
    @ronbyers9912 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Put Mannon in a skin suit, areo helmet and a time trial bike and find out what happens.

  • @mental9mikey
    @mental9mikey ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video. Can we recreate the exact same thing again but give Manon some clip-on TT bars? 🤞

  • @AbiShafi
    @AbiShafi ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I watched a film on Netflix the other day called ‘Onboard The Transcontinental Race’ and was gob smacked by the dedication of the riders, no medals or honours just the thrill of doing the race. I’d love to see someone from GCN preferably Manon do it! 😎🚴‍♂️😎🚴‍♂️

    • @BurtonHohman
      @BurtonHohman ปีที่แล้ว

      Doesn’t seem to be on Netflix, at least not in the US :/

  • @Benno828282
    @Benno828282 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    It's a pretty silly test, yes we know aero bikes are far quicker on a flat course as drag is the biggest form of resistance. Give Manon the same kit/bike and see what happens, in theory she has less experience on a tt bike.

  • @redbreva
    @redbreva ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This should be a 6 monthly event !!

  • @AlbertBuckinghamEllison
    @AlbertBuckinghamEllison ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I'm not sure Heather could've stacked the deck better in her favour. It would be good to see TT road rig vs Tri-bike rig, roadie vs triathlete.

    • @ericlanegen
      @ericlanegen ปีที่แล้ว

      Get Simon versus Mark

  • @tongpocalypse151
    @tongpocalypse151 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Like a modern day re-enactment of when Lemond beat Fignon.

  • @tbear4291
    @tbear4291 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love both and customer of them both in on-line shopping.

  • @toddtaylor8400
    @toddtaylor8400 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i like the friendly races, but a little disappointed that this really was not a heads up race.

  • @Foxtrottangoabc
    @Foxtrottangoabc ปีที่แล้ว

    Manon rocks always enjoy her vids, and watched Heather for first time attempt her Triathlon on zero food and really impressed , these ladies hard-core 💪

  • @andyclark8991
    @andyclark8991 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome win Heather love the video

  • @gregvassilakos
    @gregvassilakos ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This makes me wonder why I do my weekend rides on my road bike instead of my triathlon bike.

    • @gerhardw.933
      @gerhardw.933 ปีที่แล้ว

      I put clip-on TT bars on my road bike and was surprised about the benefits. I don't use them as a radical change from my general riding position but use them more as an addition, e.g. when pushing myself, saving energy in a more aerodynamic position, be able to ride harder ⚙️ gears etc.

  • @markwithers7730
    @markwithers7730 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love these cross channel events, however equipment makes a big difference, next time kit manon out in full TT kit

  • @user-cx2bk6pm2f
    @user-cx2bk6pm2f 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    @1:13 new tactic from Heather... don't tell Manon the route 😅

  • @sophocles8761
    @sophocles8761 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    would have like to have the W/KG to get a real sense of how much the aero adaptations helped

    • @shamuslamont100
      @shamuslamont100 ปีที่แล้ว

      if it's a flatish course, W/KG has nearly no relevance. Only outright wattage output matters. The aero positioning would have accounted for almost the entire variance ~ about 4-5km/ h in aero bar position vs road bike

  • @timvanmonero2720
    @timvanmonero2720 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    if Manon goes bend ellbows, she can save 5 watts i believe

  • @dzat
    @dzat ปีที่แล้ว

    great stuffs girls

  • @356z
    @356z ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I like to think that the UK has great roads like this everywhere with lamas in everyone's backyard

    • @gtn
      @gtn  ปีที่แล้ว

      Right!

  • @H.Tim.com22455
    @H.Tim.com22455 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Watts are nice, but watts per kilogram would be more accurate. Maybe show that next time.

  • @maksoff
    @maksoff ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Now 217W vs 209W, last time: 260W vs 225W ( th-cam.com/video/er2fcvGijFo/w-d-xo.html )

  • @Cyclingismywholelife
    @Cyclingismywholelife ปีที่แล้ว

    I love it when cyclists challenge each other to cycle more, what a great world to live in where we can share our passion to ride.

  • @RenaissanceWW
    @RenaissanceWW ปีที่แล้ว

    ah the time tested tradition of starting every group ride with excuses and explanations of why each of us are "not very fit at the moment"

  • @markstone722
    @markstone722 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Bit unfair on the choices of equipment. Not apples for apples

  • @ngdawgs1
    @ngdawgs1 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have that shirt now 🥳🥳🥳! I will tap into my inner Heather to be fast 😃.

  • @Zzyyxx22
    @Zzyyxx22 ปีที่แล้ว

    Gravel challenge next?

  • @wolfikohl6075
    @wolfikohl6075 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love this one Heather!!!!

  • @peanutbutter604
    @peanutbutter604 ปีที่แล้ว

    My two favorite Lady's on TH-cam 😃

  • @morganhaynes6125
    @morganhaynes6125 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I don't care what you all do! It's freaking awesome! Throw Manon in the water!

  • @jedisdad2265
    @jedisdad2265 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    A road bike vs a triathlon (TT) bike is a bit of a cheat for GTN.

  • @clintnieves
    @clintnieves ปีที่แล้ว

    Here comes the time trial vs tri bike

  • @chinter
    @chinter ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Manon needs to pick a hill climb to try to minimize the aero gains.

  • @frankling9840
    @frankling9840 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Seemed a bit of a mismatch really, clearly aero was going to take it...

    • @lionden4
      @lionden4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      But didn’t happen in first one😌. This time yes because of heather used all the advantages she can..

    • @igoryan1111
      @igoryan1111 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@lionden4 she also put a lot of power. 209 watts in a TT position requires more effort than 217 on a road bike.

    • @lionden4
      @lionden4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@igoryan1111 strong cyclists!.

  • @morganhaynes6125
    @morganhaynes6125 ปีที่แล้ว

    #Challenge. Climbing on a single speed. Not necessarily fixed gear but LIFE IN ONE GEAR!

  • @TheCup0joe
    @TheCup0joe ปีที่แล้ว

    Do the swim next!

  • @leeadams2413
    @leeadams2413 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Get Heather on the Track. Pusuit challenge

  • @fultonlopez7846
    @fultonlopez7846 ปีที่แล้ว

    fun but not fair

  • @timwe8044
    @timwe8044 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    honest question, why should I buy a road bike, when I can ride a tt bike and be faster and more comfortable ?

  • @necabunilas
    @necabunilas ปีที่แล้ว

    are they on 650b wheels?

  • @evanatkins1888
    @evanatkins1888 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'd like to see a three way tussle between Moe Howard, Larry Fine and Curly Howard. That'd bring the crowds back

    • @gtn
      @gtn  ปีที่แล้ว

      Very Interesting 🤔

  • @danielslocum7316
    @danielslocum7316 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Superbike without Superbike Price tag!!

  • @gregmarcus3064
    @gregmarcus3064 ปีที่แล้ว

    Manon just have not recovered from the long ass gravel race.

  • @buildingreno
    @buildingreno ปีที่แล้ว

    Heather you're looking super fit!

  • @Bb5y
    @Bb5y ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Heather is awesome. Manon is cool. Bish bash bosh.

  • @David-qx8jm
    @David-qx8jm ปีที่แล้ว

    Racing is racing. Question is distance. And bike capabilities.

  • @ernestong5112
    @ernestong5112 ปีที่แล้ว

    Surprised to see Manon using Ultegra mechanical 😬 Go mechanical 👍🏼

  • @fender2670
    @fender2670 ปีที่แล้ว

    Heather rode well, but there was a massive equipment difference

  • @Ivan_Nano
    @Ivan_Nano ปีที่แล้ว

    What is the weight difference? That would tell us more about watts per kilo rather than just watts.

  • @renaissancestrings9264
    @renaissancestrings9264 ปีที่แล้ว

    A tale of two countries.
    American 1: " I'm great"
    American 2: "I'm even better"
    American 1: "I'm the best"
    American 2: "I'm the bestetest"
    British person 1: "I suck, I'm sorry"
    British person 1: "No, no, I'm sorry, I suck worse"
    British person 1: "Tea?"
    British person 2: "Ta"
    The end.

  • @HShango
    @HShango ปีที่แล้ว

    The canyon bike is angelic

  • @atlosass
    @atlosass ปีที่แล้ว

    Way to go Heather!!

  • @mracer8
    @mracer8 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    For 10K, you can survive even without a water bottle!

  • @and2244rew
    @and2244rew ปีที่แล้ว

    How many to beat the tri bike?

  • @douglasbooth6836
    @douglasbooth6836 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Make it long 100miles and no food since the night before, manon would get thrashed.

  • @Foxtrottangoabc
    @Foxtrottangoabc ปีที่แล้ว

    How about a neutral event like Tough Mudders 😃

  • @joehayes3081
    @joehayes3081 ปีที่แล้ว

    Heather needs to get a bike fit! Could get wayy more aero 🤙

  • @savagepro9060
    @savagepro9060 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Now Mark vs Ollie. Whip their road-rider butts, whip 'em!

  • @madshansson20
    @madshansson20 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love these Challenges. Great content👍
    But why do you (all included) always downplay your fitness?? You always talk about how you haven’t trained, your not fit etc. etc.
    You all have fitness most of us normal humans can only Dream of.

  • @luntiangrace
    @luntiangrace ปีที่แล้ว

    I just realized... I hold the lower bars like manon.

  • @vinniep01
    @vinniep01 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm three minutes in and both parties are saying that they've done no training, their not as fit as they used to be... I mean it's what 'everybody' says on race day. If you win great, you're way better than your peers. If you lose, well you've been doing nowt.

  • @fun2bealv772
    @fun2bealv772 ปีที่แล้ว

    Did anyone else get distracted by the sheep and alpaca behind the girls during their recap

  • @realrealtalk9503
    @realrealtalk9503 ปีที่แล้ว

    great video and all but... 19 minutes for 10k seems a bit slow for such fit women. Also, 10k in 19 minutes doesn't quite equate to 36kmph, or does it?

  • @nstrug
    @nstrug ปีที่แล้ว

    Track sprint next…

  • @stephendenagy3396
    @stephendenagy3396 ปีที่แล้ว

    So Manon used more power and lost. Feels like cheating. Shows the benefits of the tech, validates the research.

  • @dazzakelly2024
    @dazzakelly2024 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think Manon got stitched up there!

  • @rautapieru
    @rautapieru ปีที่แล้ว

    Its all about the gear.. Again! Yeah right! Often watching these clips is more like watching commercials. Sad! How were they able to speak during the race?