The Four IGNORED Immortals
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 14 ต.ค. 2024
- Rugby league's Immortals are the best of the best. But there are still some greats waiting to join the list.
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Ray Price brought success to his teams and if he’s no immortal than nobody is.
Pricey..set the standard for ALL THE EELS OF THAT ERA...
I'm an Aussie Roosters fan living in the UK. I've met Price, Cronin and Sterling, and if they gave out medals for being humble men, then they'd be at the top of the list. Should be Knighted. Terrific footballers all of them.
Kenny was like poetry , a natural genius of the sport
Ray Price 76- 86, 11 seasons, made the finals in 10 seasons, 7 Grand Finals, 4 wins, 2 mid week cups, Rothmans medallist, NSW and Australia rep. The most driven footballer I’ve ever seen. Kenny, Sterlo, Cronin, Grothe, Ella and Edge all have a claim but Price was the heart and soul of those teams. The Eel of Steel was the greatest Eel of all
Absolutely Agree = Mister perpetual motion. He also played union for the Wallabies.
Kenny - Absolutely! The two tries in 3 consecutive GF’s alone but everything else you mentioned as well. Price - Absolutely! Compare Parramatta’s record before during and after his career. He was the driving force. Known for his high work rate and toughness but was also underrated for his skills. Sterling - Probably but several half backs in a similar class that it may be too controversial to split them.. Cronin - not quite. Many centres would be ahead of Cronin: Renouf, Ingles, Rogers, Miles… In today’s game, Cronin would be a ball playing edge forward, although I guess the same could be said for Miles but he was a shade quicker. Dragons fan here following the game since 75.
Wally Lewis said Brett Kenny was the greatest he ever played with or against, he also said daylight was second and third. A true genius was Bert.
Perhaps, but Wally also said that the best player he had played with and against was Mark Ella.
Ahead of his time
King Wally Lewis will always be the greatest. Could win crucial, big time games on pure strength of will. And he did it often. I’m not a Queenslander either.
The Dogs of war ? They did OK in the eighties too.
@@useruseruseruseruser790and Kenny beat him at Origin and took his Aus jumper, how many GFs did Wally win and did he score a double in 3 GF wins in a row
Wally Lewis is an immortal on the basis of his 3 State of Origin performances a year. The Brisbane competition in his own words was a Freddy Flintstone competition. Lewis was not competing against quality five eighths each week. Lewis played 5 seasons in the NSWRL. In his 3 years with the Brisbane Broncos he played in 1 semi final from the bench which they lost.
In his 2 years at the Gold Coast he won only 7 games.
Lewis won the first ever Golden Boot award as the world’s best player for the 1984 season playing in the Brisbane competition. How is that possible? He was not even playing against the best players in Australia week after week.
Brett Kenny played 265 games over 14 seasons in the most competitive rugby league competition in the world. He scored over 100 tries against the best players in the world. He played in 5 grand finals winning 4 and was the Clive Churchill medalist in 2 of them. Kenny and Peter Sterling are the only 2 players to play in all tests on 2 unbeaten Kangaroo tours. In a 1984 Rugby League Week interview with the Australian coach Frank Stanton, he was asked who was the best player in the game today. Stanton said that Brett Kenny was the best back and Wayne Pearce was the best forward.
Wally Lewis played 31 games for QLD but who was he competing against in the BRL to challenge him for the five eighth position? Kenny played 17 State Of Origin games but was constantly challenged for that position by Alan Thompson, Terry Lamb, Steve Ella & Cliff Lyons etc.
The year that Brett Kenny had in 1986 may never be duplicated. Parramatta won the Minor Premiership, the Grand Final and the Panasonic Cup. He played in the winning City Origin team. Played all 3 State Of Origin games which they won. Played all 3 tests against New Zealand which they won. He was named the games best player in the annual Rugby League Week poll judged by his peers. Won the Dally M Representative Player Of The Year. Won The Golden Boot award as the worlds best player. Played in all 5 tests on the unbeaten Kangaroo tour.
You forget that given the opportunity, Lewis and other Brisbane players were able to match it with the best Sydney clubs could produce.
You seem to be forgetting that the first year Lewis was in the Sydney comp he won 5/8 of the year and 89/90 were ruined by injuries. You also ignore that Brett Kenny never played finals again after 86. So for 7 years he was the star of a failing team. You also ignore that while Kenny was a great 5/8 of his near 20 tests all but 3 were in the centres. Where as all but 5 of Wally’s 31 tests were at 6. So tell the whole story.
Imagine how good the King would have been had he been conditioned on a weekly basis by playing top level rugby league in Sydney. Yet he could still turn out for QLD against NSW and win multiple man of the match awards. How good could he really have been ? Long Live The King.
This conversation is the stuff of pubs and clubs where bored patrons revisit their Rugby League memories and everyone is an expert spending all week before and after the weekend talking about the latest round.
Seems we can’t get enough yatta yatta yatta ! If we keep this up we’ll end up like the AFL
tragics in Victoria. When I was a kid in the 60’s there was a half hour Rugby League preview on Saturday mornings. That was all you needed.
Kenny, Price, Sterling, Grothe for me. Price was way way more than a workhorse and a competitor/winner. More skilful than he is given credit for.
Ray Price and Brett Kenny for sure. Great video mate. Ray Price, knocked out in 1986 GF.
Never come across this channel, and won't be staying. The headline should just read "Parramatta supporter supports Parramatta".
Considering how you wear a traditional Parramatta logo hat and also considering how bad the Eels season was this year, would the Eels benefit from dropping their Eels logo and going back to their original logo which would take the club back, to both their traditional and indigenous roots?
Sorry but Mick Cronin was not the last country player to be selected to play for Australia. Steve Morris holds that honour from 1978 when he was chosen to play for Australia while still with the Dapto Canaries, 5 years after Mick.
Brett Kenny is better than all the immortals, 2 tries in 3 Grand finals in a row, put the sword through the King and took his Aus jumper, enough said
Growing up in the 1980s just down the road from Cumberland Oval, I agree with Price, Kenny & Sterlo. Cronin was a great player but not quite immortal standard. (And I support the Bunnies). Great channel. 😊
Im a manly fan who grew up in parramatta.
I agree with him about kenny, price and sterlo. They were fantastic.
Didn't kenny win the lance tod trophy in the challenge cup final when he did a seaason stint at Wigan
Yes, but the Immortals basically don't take into account overseas club performances
@@theextendedbench arrogance at it's finest don't you think? The challenge cup is a big event it's like the rugby leagues fa cup in the English premier League
I think you are confusing champion teams with team of champions. Especially in regard to Cronin. I mean he beat Eadie's record, so.....does that mean Eadie should be in there as well because he beat Eric Simms record. With Cronin he was a great center, but not exceptional, just the perfect center to partner with Steve Ella. His greatest skill was his strength. He could suck defenders to him like flies to icecream and that opened the spaces for Ella and Kenny to weave their magic.
Cronin was a centre. Maybe that sounds obvious but he wasn't just some big bloke who could run a bit. He had the great technique required for a centre.
@@johncater7861 But we are talking here about elevating him to an elite center and he definitely not that. Good, possibly even a great center. But absolutely not elite.
From 1972 to 1983 Parramatta NEVER defeated Western Suburbs at Lidcombe Oval !!!
Away from Lidcombe Parramatta held a 7 to 4 advantage with 1 draw.
Amazing to think that the 1981, 82, 83 teams still couldn't overcome the Lidcombe hoodoo.
Dallas and Tommy for immortality.... and Brett Kenny too.
Their time will come they will be imortals for sure, sterlo next , kenny,pricey,cronin
Ray Price finished his career in 1990 with Wakefield Trinity after coming out of retirement. Price, Kenny, Cronin and Sterling should be immortals without a doubt.
Bit of poetic licence there.
Price was a lot more than just a workhorse who was a winner. He was highly skillful and fast enough to play a roving 5/8 role. The eels had strike all across the park.
Here's just a sample of how good they were
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By the way the dogs also won 4 premierships in the 80's as well.
Yeh bit eels just delete that history
Billy Smith ? He is the reason we won 6 of 11 premierships
Didn’t Johns play against Meninga?
Nope.
Numerous others will be named immortals before them. Instead of naming immortals willy nilly, more should be done to improve the NRL hall of fame. There are tons of very good players worthy of a place in the hall of fame.
More than a little bias in this video
Mate the 80's is all us Parra supporters have so why it might be biased towards Parra it's not like we have those types of players since 86 so just let us have this. If u were around in the 80's & remember these days then Parra supporter or not u know those players in that era were the Riff of today & Storm & Chooks of the 2000's. I was around for the 80's but only 6 when we won our last comp so i don't remember esp the first 3 premierships & sadly i think I'll go to the grave not seeing us win another one lol. Let us live in the past of our glory days!
Immortals is bs, but Burt is my favourite
Should have left it at 4 immortals the label is losing credibility
Kenny , Rogers , Coote are as good as any of the current immortals. Anyone who saw them play knows that.
Alfie should be one already.
I reckon too
How did Joey ( E ) John's get in before Alf ?
Concept should have been retired. Keep on naming immortsls and they just end up going through the hall of fame 1 by 1.
1000% Right. Piss it off.
Go Parra, agree with you all the way, we are hoping this year is year of the Mighty Eels.
Mate I know your an eel bit my God how is Steve folks not on the discussion look at his record as a player and coach not to mention lamb and Mortimer just look at their records.
Kenny ,Coote, Price & Sterling should be the next 4 immortals
Amazing all Paarramatta player give a break
hard to hear your commentary.
Ray Price was a good player. No more. Brett Kenny. Very good player. No more. Mick Cronin. Absolute legend. Worthy of being named.
agreed. the amount blues supporters and parramatta supporters who overrate kenny is absurd.
he's a 5/8 that didnt have a kicking game ffs, and he wasnt half as good a defender as wally lewis was.
wally lewis could read the game 3 plays in advance, kenny couldn't read the game at all and needed sterlo to do the organising for him
blues supporters are a bunch of biased liars.
sterlo was really the only eel that deserves to be a immortal imho.
@@thievinbruddakenny always outplayed lewis at origin.
Your comments suggest you are either trolling or have no idea!
And you’ve done what - statistics have a measure of a man. Have a lovely day.🙏🗿🇹🇭
Allan Langer could put Sterlo in his back pocket. Langer would _destroy_ the opposition at Origin and International level. Sterlo did not.
Langer the last halfback to lose 5 series straight for Queensland. Lost in 92,93,94, dnp in 95, lost in 96 and 97. Most rep halves wouldn’t get another chance after losing 3 straight origin series.
Sterling was by far the best half back I've seen. Fast, great strategist and fearless tackler.
@@johncater7861 You've obviously never watched a Newcastle game in the last 30 years. There was a guy there named Andrew Johns. Believe it or not, he was even better than Langer. Wow!
@@tobyfitzpatrick3914 I think there is a problem trying to compare players of different eras.
Poor Parra fans. I know the drought is hurting but the 80's was 40 yrs ago now mate. You probably weren't even alive then. Yes they were great players, but they were a great team with no one in particular standing out. All equal contributors. That's why they're not going to be immortals. Burt was special but he was overshadowed by Lewis at origin time back then. Hang in there, that elusive premiership will eventually come.
Geoff Toovey > These 4 gronks
There needs to be an investigation!
so you support Parramatta? no doubt that all 4 are brilliant players and may one day make it but there are few ahead and more on the way
I applaud the honesty in wearing the Eels cap though.