Fly Fishing Tech Tips: Do we need to know the grain weight of a fly line?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 5 ก.ย. 2024
- Some fly fishers obsess about the grain (gram) weight of a line while others don't care and simply go by the line rating number.
When is it important that we know the weight and when does it not matter? that's what we'll cover in this video.
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Excellent subject and information…….Thank you, Peter!!! 👍🎣
Very helpful explanation. Researching a new line for the coming season I’ve concluded that the AFTM rating system as used by some manufacturers is now close to meaningless, even in the trout world. It would be better if rod makers stated the weight (in grains and/or grammes the rod was designed to cast, and line makers stated the weight
of the length of line designed to be cast (aka the head).
The rating system is still useful and there are still lines out there that adhere to it. What would be nice though if the line manufacturers included the following information with every single hand line.
- line rating number
- head length
- weight over first 30'
- entire head weight
For those who just want to go by the rating number, they can ignore the rest, while the rest satisfies those of us who want more information.
Thanks Peter! I just went through this hassle while setting up 4 new lines for a 10 foot stillwater rod. I went by grain weight and head length but won't know until open water if I got it all right.
I'm fairly new to fly fishing but realized quite fast that just because it says 7wt, doesn't mean it's a "7wt". The grain/gram weight is much more informative and intuitive to me.
Side note: I notice you seem to be a big fan of Danielsson/old Loop reels, how many do you have? would be fun to see a video on them, as outside of Scandinavia they don't seem very popular.
Edit: just saw your video on trout reels from a few days ago where you talk a bit about those reels..
I have seven Danielsson/old Loop reels plus quite a few spools and I've been using them since 2004. I'm familiar with Scandinavian fishing tackle as I was pro staff for Guideline during their brief North American foray, plus I've owned Loop, Vision and Scierra tackle. Might be worth a video . . .
Thanks for the information. In my humble opinion, the fly lines and fly rods should do away with the terminology of 1wt, 2wt and etc. Knowing the grain weights for the fly lines and the rods that can handle that window is much better and easier to understand. It will also eliminate the guess work in regards to matching the line to the reel.
For some of us that would be fine, but most fly fishers, especially trout anglers still rely on the rating number, The problem is, and I've spoken about this before, the AFTMA standard was created with trout fishing in mind. It isn't as effective a tool for other types of fly fishing. but it's all we have.
So...the takeaway seems to be that AFTMA 'standards', are not so...standard.
It's really complicated for double-hand rods. Grain wieght, head length, taper profile, etc. ...
yup, and it used to be simple back in the salmon DT days. The rods were rated for 60' of an AFTMA rated salmon DT line. Worked very nicely back then.
Fascinating! How do you measure the weight of the line do you measure head and running line or just the head - thanks.
I weigh just the head of the line and leave the running line on the reel.
I'm pretty new to fly fishing but would you say faster action rods "like" the heavier grain line?
I have a 7wt mojo bass (mod.fast) and a 7wt axiom 2 (fast). In testing my rio outbound short fast sink (265 grains) on both rods, it feels like it's harder to cast with the mojo bass. Do you think it's something wrong with my technique?
Not really. There can be variations between 7 wts. as to what lines suit them best, but the action usually isn't a factor. I have a video on this issue: th-cam.com/video/boXZPe_ZPbk/w-d-xo.html
@@hooked4lifeca Thanks for the reply and info Peter! I'll get to practicing!
Merci and i understand now what i saw in a canadian store, People said to my son : ’’deux de plus’’ (two up for line number..! )..
Au revoir, take five.. oups sorry.. seven. J.louis