Realistic expectations for Caleb Williams after signing four-year, $39M rookie deal? | NFL | SPEAK
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- Emmanuel Acho, Joy Taylor, James Jones and David Helman share their realistic expectations for Chicago Bears QB Caleb Williams after officially signing his four-year, $39 million rookie deal.
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Acho bugging it the nfc south that up for grabs
What she said made absolutely no sense. So Caleb will be successful but the team won't?
If Caleb Williams has 4K yards 30 tds there’s no way bears miss playoffs 🤣
The Bears did what I wish my Ravens did for Lamar, have playmakers in already place, DJ Moore, Keenan Allen, Deandre Swift, Cole Kmet will help out Caleb Williams. You will easily tell in about 300 snaps, maybe 5 games into the season if the Bears found their Franchise QB.
My only expectation for Caleb is 4000 yards. They loaded up the wr room for him to do just that
@@tjayd1225 nah. Don't see it
On top of the TE’s they have. Every starting wr and te they have can catch
Stroud had 23 touchdowns and that still made his year the best ever for a rookie qb. I don’t see Caleb having a better year than Stroud.
3,500 passing yards, another 400-500 rushing .20-25 passing tds, 4-7 rushing Tds, 62-65 completion percentage and 9-8 would be a phenomenal year. Anything more would be gravy and a playoff birth.
@@HockeyDudeJames2 If Chicago stays healthy and Williams plays 17 games they'll do better than that.
No way Caleb breaks the bears single season passing record in his rookie year 😂😂😂
@@stephonwilliams5232 It's not a hard feat. Williams averaged about 300 yards and 3 TD'S a game in college. That's 5100 yards and 51 TD's in 17 games in the NFL!
He could do I guess.
Someone finally brought up the fact that the jags are part of the reason the Texans happened
😂😂 Texans we’re win and In against the colts it didn’t matter that the jags collapsed. The jags collapse only determined seeding
Just like in 2022 the Titans are the reason why the Jaguars won the division
You all do realize 4k yards and 30 TDs is 235 yards and a little over one TD per game is all he needs. He can't average that with this roster? I believe he can do it.
Fantasy land. I bet you believe in Peter Pan too 7 interceptions in one Practice oh wait he couldn’t even get the snap count right. In OTAS. I mean yes he is gonna light it up. N it’s closer to two TDS a Game n yep the roster can average that but not with Caleb and. Not with this OLine.
One touchdown per game with a 17 game season? Naaaaah
4k yards and 30+ TDs is NOT realistic!!! That is in the MVP conversation
Lamar won mvp w less than that 😂
@@tjayd1225Lamar had 4,499 total yards
@@chrischilds368With 29 overall TDs
@@chrischilds368Also Dak had 4,700 total yards
@@maskedman5657wit 38 Tot TDs Dak was robbed
Joy talking about the division but never gave Fields that same grace, with a worse roster...
Joy don't be knowing wtf she talking about
@@Slaughterh0use88
Joy is a Justin Fields hater.
Patrick mahomes would not be successful if he started off his career like JF1 did.
@@dwightmoore649He would be because Mahomes is a very good quarterback. Fields is a bad quarterback. Have you seen him play?
In 34 years watching the nfl I have learned 2 things, don't bet on the bears or the jets.
What is he talking about the Bears went the playoffs in 2020 …it was 4 years ago not 6.
Mitch was a pro bowler in 18”, six years ago
Yeah I heard that six years for the playoffs. Just do minimal homework! Talking heads on TV running mouths as per usual.......
@@tonystonez5771Bears lost to saints in 2020 wild card round.
I swear this was the way they talked about Bryce too
You all being nice! If Fields had this same squad you all would say playoff or bust! Stop it #1 pick
As a Lions fan, I was afraid of Fields, I have no fear for the smaller,weaker arm Williams, I remain unimpressed and unconvinced
one has experience in the league the other is a rookie. argument finished. case closed
@@IAmAbunduntWeaker arm?😂 that’s a crazy take. Caleb’s arm is far better than fields
Fields footwork, mechanics, and release are not NFL caliber dude.
@@sprayer97 Fields had three years and lost 4 games they had in the bag this season (his poor play and turnovers coupled with bad def.) We broke him with his first two years and giving him Aaron's coordinator. Williams already feels as polished as a passer and he is starting on a great foot. Fields never went out and won a game when needed in the 4th.
you can’t call someone “generational talent” and have the talent around them like he does n not have the expectation of making the playoffs. especially when cj stroud had the season he did last year 2:08
@@firstchain_prominence nah you being ridiculous.
Texans are my team and no one was picking them to make the playoffs much less win the division. Texans did take advantage of Jaguars collapse but they did collapse. Does anyone really think that the Lions or Packers are going to have a collapse like the Jaguars did? Plus don't count out the Vikings to be in the mix. I don't think Vikings will make the playoffs but they're not some team that can be rolled on easily either. I will say Caleb can put up 3500+ yards and 25TD with his arm which is a big step up from Fields and a move in the right direction.
@@maskedman5657 no im not, u can’t vall
someone “generational talent” but set the bar low when someone had a first year coach and was going up against afc teams. he’s in a weaker conference than strouds. cj had an unbelievable season. hes has to least make the playoffs with the talent around him. stop being goofy
@@MrJpaynebb this is football bro, jags weren’t ready. n last season isn’t next season. can tell y’all don’t watch football
@@firstchain_prominence John Elway was considered a generational talent no one had any expectations for the Broncos. Peyton Manning was considered a generational talent and we got the infamous Jim Mora Playoff rant in Mannings 4th year, his Rookie Year nobody had any expectations for the Colts
Do you realize that for Caleb to get those numbers the rest of the team as a whole has to be pretty dang good
Bears had statistically a top 10 defense the back half of the season post Montez sweat trade and won 7 games. If they are all in agreement that Caleb Williams is throwing for 4K yards and 30 TDs, how on earth are they not in the playoffs? The math ain’t mathin 😂
They have to play the Packers and Lions twice and they're not doing better than either of them this year. There's only so many playoff spots, and one of those two teams and the Eagles or Cowboys are likely to get a wildcard spot with a better record than the Bears too
@@HansHinnershitz not really worried about the lions. In both head to head games the bears were only down for a solid 30 seconds last year and it was because eberflus blew a 2 TD lead in under 3 minutes. Goff threw 5 picks against the bears D, they have his number. Packers are a different story. They own the bears until further notice. Last year the pack got in with 9 wins. If what they are assuming is true bears should get at least 3 more wins than they had last year, when Justin only threw for 2600
Justin Herbert did that in his rookie season and missed the playoffs because he didn’t have a good defense! So the bears need their HC to be good and have his defense ready because I think the offense will be fun to watch ! And I love how in speak they always talk about Cj rookie season as an example even though Herbert and Luck has all the records 😂
I think Caleb will have a good rookie season.
Division winners Lions, 49ers, Eagles, Falcons wildcard Packers, Rams, Dallas I think the Bears will be in the hunt until the end of the season.
NOBODY is expecting Lions to miss p/o's yet I say they lose tie-breaker points and don't get in. Remember, their coach said they may NOT be in position again to go to SB! Did he jinx himself and team????
@@foolmenow00 they just say that to throw people off they do the same thing every year and people fall for it
Until the games happen, it is all a guess that is the truth.
People keep talking about Chicago's history as if they're dealing with the same president and/or gm. As if history matters when it's obvious Warren and Poles are different beasts. They drafted in 1 year the best college QB and college WR they ever have. Look at the roster and last year's defense numbers. Improvements at every position. They even got the best college punter ever in Troy Taylor! If Chicago stays healthy and Williams plays 17 games. We're talking about the best rookie QB performance ever and the Bears making the playoffs!
11-5, playoff win or two, 4250 pass yards, 35 pass TDs, 300 rush yards and 5 rush TDs.
I agree Warren and Poles are different, but we all watched what happened between 03-07. The rise and fall was fast, and they did it again after an NFC championship loss to Gb. Did it again with Nagy. The common denominator is the McCaskeys, who build terrible relationships with players and have repeated this process since GSH passed. I’m hopeful brother, but I’d be happy with 7 wins if we actually see Caleb develop.
Nice to see someone that has a brain lol
Exactly they've always been predominantly focused more on the run game. That's not how the OC runs his offense. With the WR room, he has more of a chance of these stats than people think.
@@danieljoyce7699The Bears have never had a good offense.
Yeah they never talk about the history of the Detroit Lions. They just got good. How easily they forget how awful they were for many decades
This CW hype is starting to sound eerily similar to Justin Fields rookie year. The media overhyped that man to death by saying he’s going to a playoff ready roster, a top 5 defense, a former COTY offensive minded HC and dude was a winner in college. All those by the COTY comments have been made at some point by the media.
Throw for 4K in the Windy City??? I never heard he has a very strong arm just how he throws off platform but I dunno i wanna see at less 4 games before i predict 4K yards 😂
These analysts are so certain that CW will be killing it..based on college tape? Give me a break..he may have a high ceiling but he more likely to struggle as a rookie than come close to what CJ Stroud did. CJ is the exception to the rule..not the norm...lets ne realistic here
The bears haven't been to playoffs in 4 years goofball
Sooooo, for months, these guys have been telling me, as a Bears fan, the Celeb is an upgrade. And in the same vein, you're telling me we won't even make the playoffs....SMFH
That's Joy for you.
Personally I think she's always (mostly) rides Shady's comments.
She sounds like his yes man.
Yall better stop with that Stroud disrespect.
Talking about he was benefited from a weak division and the collapse of the jags.
He won OROY and showed great poise being a field general.
Now in year two there have been talks about Stroud and the Texans threatening to be SB contenders or a real threat in the playoffs.
I’ll put whatever down that Williams doesn’t sniff that in 3 years.
Joy is the secret service agent that doesn’t know where her holster is.
Im not sold on him finishing the season, its going to be much harder than what these guys spew
In comparing overall #1 pick quarterbacks, probably the best rookie season was by Andrew luck, with 23 TD's, 18 INT's, and 4,374 yards. Baker Mayfield and Joe Burrow also had positive TD to INT ratios in their first year. More often than not, overall # 1 pick quarterbacks are finding their way in the first year. Many have more INT's than TD's. By those standards, Joy saying Caleb would throw for 30 TD's would be otherwordly. I think he will have an up and down year, showing flashes of brilliance but also making rookie mistakes. Hard to quantify that at this point.
@@Bluespower1792 No. Can Newton had the best rookie season as a dual threat with 4050 pass, 21 TDs, 17int, 700 rush and 14 rush TDs.
Justin Herbert had 4,336 pass, 31 TDs 10 int, 234 rush and 5 TDs.
@@kelsowilz2522 Cam was a number 1 overall. Was Justin Herbert?
@@Bluespower1792 No. He was not. I understand you were talking about #1 picks. I'm not a big Cam Newton fan but he was the best college QB and the best #1 rookie ever. Maybe the best rookie QB ever. Herbert could arguably be the best rookie QB ever. Of course this is all statistical.
@@kelsowilz2522 cj stroud would like a word
Just make the playoff Caleb and take care of business.
I don't understand why everyone suddenly thinks this team is going to be able to flip a switch and become a passing team that beats their franchise record for passing yards with a coach they've wanted fired 😂 haven't even seen Caleb play against and NFL defense yet
I don't get the love for the Packers. They got hot late and went on a streak, but went into the season with questions and still had questions in the middle of the season. I could easily see them be next years 2023 Jaguars. That's not to say they can't have success but they're getting thrown in based on being the Packers. If the Bears or Vikings had the Packers roster, everyone would still question their success last season.
No the Packers are legit they have a better defensive coordinator also they in prove their roster
@@nick-loading And I'll counter using your same argument. The Bears got a new OC and improved their offense over last season. The argument does nothing to legitimize either team. Both could be a coin flip to make the playoffs next season but because the Packers have had their success prior to Love, they get to ride on that instead of actual analysis of their roster that going in to last season was viewed as a rebuild. Also, I believe about half of the playoff teams from the previous season fail to make the playoffs the following. GB feels like a team that could be one of those.
You copin big time
@@Chiguy79 i disagree Joe Barry literally cost the packers like 5 games last year plus the Packers had a great off season don’t sleep on the packers
@@nick-loading I'm not sleeping on them, I do think they'll be competitive. I'm just saying I didn't think they're a lock like a lot of prognosticators are making them out to be. The Bears choked three wins to losses when they had double digit leads in the 4th quarter against good teams, well two good teams and the Broncos. I think the Bears and Packers are a lot closer than most will say. Looking forward to the season though, NFC North should be fun to watch.
The disrespect the lions are still getting from the media is ridiculous. How is a team that went to the NFC championship game AND got better in the off season just in the mix yet they have san fran as a lock for the playoffs.
Trubisky owns the rookie passing yards record only because the 1982 strike wiped out half of McMahon's rookie season. Jim McMahon was NFC rookie of the year and on pace to throw 3,100 passing yards and 20 TDs. That's probably the most realistic benchmark for Caleb Williams.
If we're talking realistic down to earth predictions only. Bears win Super Bowl by 112. If Caleb has an off day they only win by 92.
Theres a bunch of reasons you could make why they would make the playoffs my favorite being the schedule they received no division games until the 2nd half of the season?!!
CJ Stroud broke rookie records and won OROY. Will Anderson Jr won DROY…
But according to Joy.. the Texans were successful because the Jags collapsed…
I can’t tell if Joy, Kimberly, or Molly are the worst.
@@Nicholas-HTX That was a sad take by Joy 😂
@Nicholas-HTX If you remember back in 2022, the Jaguars benefited from Tennessee having the injury bug and other issues. Nobody complained about that.
@@HockeyDudeJames2 it was insane.
Realistic expectation is to not get benched, play all 17 games, and be statistically a middle of the pack QB in the NFL in year one
If Caleb has a good year , many forget the Bears' strength is the defence . Plus, last year success is not guaranteed on one season but consistent seasons Go Bears
Caleb hater’s are going to be mad this year
4-12 at best
Dude, did you see him play in college? The dude STRUGGLED against good teams. He's got bust written all over him. I don't see or buy the hype.
Time will tell. He has the avengers around him.
I see 8 wins 9 if everything goes right
This comment will not age well. At least Caleb had that one good year at Nebraska.
The Bears are very likely winning 8 games this season.
yes
7.....possibly 8 games is definitely realistic.
So “maybe” one more win with a much improved roster from last year? Something wrong if they only improve by 1 win with all of these upgrades
KEEP RECANTING THEM STATEMENTS GUYS!💯♥️ ITS GONE BE BACKPEDALING ALL SEASON!
I like this line up! 👍
I’m curious to see who they blame if he doesn’t reach their expectations, because they talk like he’s a lock to be the next great QB. I’m not so sure, sounds like a lot of hype….
Rome Odunze, DJ Moore, Keenan Allen.... You gotta be kidding me? all on the same team?
No high expectations. But if he can't hit any of those studs out wide by week 6, questions will rise.
Joy, with all due respect, is pretty crazy for this take.
Terrible take on this one, I agree
She’s been getting worse.
@@Nicholas-HTX Yes her takes have been hard to listen to lately.
Still infinitely better than ESPN
RECANTING STATEMENTS! SHADY NOT IN 😂😂😂
They kind of wiped out their argument with saying Williams is supposed to have a CJ type season in a better division that everyone expects Lions and Packers in the playoffs
Realistic is they better make the playofss cause they were pretty much there last year with a much worse team with less talent. This team is stacked with talent and they gave up on Fields
3500 yards, 20+ TD’s,
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And Trubisky made it as an alternate cuz of injuries. McMahon was really the only one who made the Pro Bowl as a Bears QB
I think he will have a successful career, but Since when have we ever made an assumption on rookie of the year before the season even started? The D riding on Caleb Williams is hilarious.
They act like Caleb the only good rookie Jayden Daniel’s could easily win rookie of the year
Yeah I like Jayden Daniel's more than Caleb he has more upside Caleb low key struggled the final weeks of the season he is not that good to me!!
I thought it was going to be a tuff road for him in the NFL.
Hopefully he turns it around with that big money request before hitting the field.
How many times we heard this about first round rookies
I don't hate Caleb Williams. I do hate the lack of tempering expectations from the media and fans.
All i heard when fields was drafted was how the bears dominance was about to begin.
All i heard when the bears got DJ Moore was how scary that offense was going to be.
Williams gets drafted and its even worse then i expected.
Projecting playoffs from a team that hasn't had a winning season in how long, in a division where you have to get past the lions and the packers... come on. 8-9, 9-8 would be reasonable, and a good start to Caleb's career.
...also Stafford thew for 4k 30 TDs for most of his career and made the playoffs only twice with the lions. So to assume that if you put up those numbers you make the playoffs is dumb.
I think he is in a good situation. Normally the top pick goes to worst team and he was lucky the Bears positioned themselves to get the top pick of the draft. I like Joy’s takes, but I don’t think rookie of the year is a stretch, but I think he will do well.
Do they think 3 teams going to make the playoffs from the NFC north? I do except him to have 4K and 30 TD.
Joy makes no sense 🤣
They have to score (offense) they have to get the ball back (defense) and score again. I believe they can but the whole team does great
He comes into the league with better weapons than last year's MVP 🤦🏽♂️.
A realistic expectation is a super bowl appearance for paying all that money
Episodes without Shady are just so much more enjoyable... no hurt egos
If I were an athlete I wouldn't own a TV. I'm not watching people who can't run the 40 in less than an hour tell me throwing 28 TDs as a rookie is a failure. 😂
I think Caleb will have a great year, as for the Bears making the playoffs it comes down to how the Rest of the NFC plays out outside their division because they're not winning the North thats for certain.
9-8 wins is the ceiling and 5-12 is the floor
@@TheSundayParty1 9-8 is not the ceiling.
@@kelsowilz2522yes it is
@@kelsowilz2522 They are competing for 3rd place in the NFC North, They Are a historically bad franchise, with the same head coach as last year who went 7-10 but now with an enterally new coordinators, new offense, new defense. New quarterback who still has to adapt to NFL season. A good draft isn't going to fix chemistry. Would be awesome to see lighting strike twice and have a season like Houston, but its not gonna happen. a 9-8 season would be amazing.
@@TheSundayParty1 Historically bad team has nothing to do with this regime. If it wasn't for that stupid Packers QB coach that was our OC last year we would have been 10-7 (with 3 blown 4th quarter leads) with less than mediocre QB play in Fields. The Packers were 9-8 last year and had a win against a Dallas team that can't win in the playoffs. There's no guarantee that Love and the Packers do a 9-8 or better record.
Thankfully, with our attempts to make predictions, were going to find out!
@@TheSundayParty1 I don't see you talking about the history of the Lions. Seems you forgot how bad that team is historically.
Why are the Lions a ??? When they just won 12 games, they went to the NFCC, and they got better and they're young? The disrespect is real.
Caleb could be Playoff bound. If the Bears defense continues to hold up, I think Caleb and his new receivers and running back should be good for at least 3 more wins than last year. Not sure if 10 wins is good enough to make the playoffs though. But I CAN see them winning 12.
Here is how:
They split their 3 division games, lose at the Texans and lose to the Rams at home, that’s 5 losses.
Then they go on the road and beat the Cardinals, Colts, Commanders and my 49ers, who will be dealing with their Super Bowl Jinx.
And at home they beat the Titans, Patriots, Panthers, Jaguars and Seadogs. That leaves them at 12-5.
Is Speak moving two hours permanently?
Yeahhh, they definitely asking for too much. People forget that rookies are supposed to struggle, it's the outliers that are special. I'm not saying he's not gonna be, but they acting like he's gonna be an MVP candidate (top vote getter) in his rookie year. Rookie of the year, 4k yrds, 20-25 total TDs and I'll have to look at the schedule but I think they'll sneak in to the last spot and get busted up by the #2 seed
If Caled doesn’t win roty then he better hope it isn’t one of the other rookie QBs.
Might be McDaniels that's probably the only person to compete because he's the number 2 pick 🤷🏾♂️🤷🏾♂️🤷🏾♂️
@@TexanEagleFanI think it might be jj just bc who he is throwing to
Caleb went to one of the most QB deprived franchises ever...
Throwing for 4K with 30 pass TDs and making a playoff appearance all in his rookie year seems unfair to expect.
Very minimum he should reach Erik Kramer's 1995 numbers but I think he can surpass that.
They have a new offensive coordinator: they’ve surround Caleb Williams with unparalleled talent. The factor you’re not seeing is WR Rome Odunze. That is him surrounded by top talent. That is enough to make the playoffs. The discussion you should really be having is what are they going to do once they get there: past the point of Matt Nagy’s 2018 playoff point.
This is a gross, underestimation of the bears roster. You’re making it about one player.
You can never make it about one player. Honestly, Caleb should have a relatively easy season because of the players around him. The narrative you’re mentioning would mirror Justin Fields - if he wasn’t surrounded by the talents. You need to talk about them more, table Caleb for later.
I really think y’all over hype this Caleb Williams I don’t think they gone. Make it to the playoffs
Why do analysts act as if the Lions steamrolled the Bears? Split 2 close games last year with that roster. Good to note the 1st game was lost due to 4th quarter woes from JF
Joy is outrageous... Her "prediction" is that Caleb Williams will have a RECROD BREAKING season...? Women should not be allowed to speak
Well it’s the Bears Caleb can for sure break so many records in Bears history in only one season
They should stop being silly. Joy is there for eye candy her takes are horrible.
Go back to your cave. As long as they know what they're talking about I don't mind
Realistic expectations for Caleb Williams for the 9th time this summer
Why did the bears need to draft Caleb if you don’t care about real success why was it so important they draft him?
Anyone else think Joy is annoying
He's gonna be average or a bust. Just my opinion
I mean towards bust
I would worry Bears fans, Joy has a hopeful outlook on you guys. She is basically the modern Madden Jinx.
3/4 of cj’s division was playing for playoffs at the end of the season
The Bears were 7-10 last year. If Caleb Williams does individually what these analysts predict the Bears should be 15-2! Ai think the Bear’s defense is good enough to get at least 1-7!
I don’t see bears over the packers in their division 😏
Packers don't have enough on offense
If he good it's a bargain. Stroud and Purdy has value contracts but deserves get paid considering D Jones contract
I agree with Acho
Lamar Jackson wouldn't have even come close to bring the bears leading passer for a season and he's got 2 MVPs. This is hilarious
Lamar is more accomplished and has accolades. He came close to passing for 4000 yards and has won for the most TDs in the league. Know your facts
I enjoy hearing Joy's comments...she's the best female analyst
After all the talk from this show last year im expecting a championship lol. By the way Joy you're right you are perfect and I do want you!
Cutler did make a pro bowl, only with the broncos
He's going to be very good but not his first year.
The Bears didn't shell out $24 million to D'Andre Swift for Williams to throw for 4000+ yards. IF he throws for that much, there's a lot of wasted money in the backfield.
You need to remember who's the head coach of the bears. It's not like you got Andy reed.
U need to remember that his roster stinked and his OC was horrible
@@Devin-lw7hvhis OC right now isn't much better
how does a rookie of the year not make the playoffs
Roster better than falcons,rams,packers,seahawks and Vikings, coaching will play a big part.
Im taking a team that has a great defensive back end, A ABSOLUTE BOOT IN punter TROY. Our QB CAN CHUNCK AND DINK TO MOVE THE CHAINS.. we fininsh second in the north behind DETROIT! WE'LL SNEAK in for a wild card game, the rest is up to yall🐻⬇️😈
I think they should keep the camera on joy…everybody can still talk…I just like looking at joy
I give um 26-30 tds 10 picks
If Caleb goes for 4k and 30tds, the Bears will win the division. What do y'all watch? We could have easily been a 10 win team last year with a pedestrian offense and a top 10 defense. 🐻 ⬇️
13 wins wasn’t all Rex….Kyle orton and the defense did that