Francisco Sanchez I think that’s what happening right now, just look at TSM roster. They did really have a bit of an era at the beginning of the scene, however, as the scene grows, guys like Asuna, dicey, sinatraa, SicK, etc start to take over it, making those players seem to be outdated (except for drone, Wardell and Subroza, who are really trying so hard to carry their washed teammates)
I actually like playing Valorant but holy shit these guys are weak. It clearly shows who grew up on COD and CS and who grew up on the parents golf course 😂
they only want D riders in the scene.this is why people dont take esport seriously.lol remember moe murdered koosta? imagine moe at the desk😂 edit: you say it richard.spot on
Demanding that an apology be made publicly instead of just accepting the private one is one of the most entitled crybaby things you can do. If she had first went and did it publicly, it could've been seen as her trying to smooth it over for herself in front of everyone. But instead she did the right thing and contacted him privately. Him telling her to do it publicly just shows that he wasn't interested in an apology of any kind, and merely wanted to make a spectacle of it.
I mean, British people aren't as hard as they make themselves out to be. The past 5 years have exemplified that. We like to think that we're hard because of our empire and can't get over it.
@@lurka1337 Depends on the region. In the South and midlands, you won't find many tough guys. (Speaking as a Southern fairy). My experiences of working and going clubbing in areas like Manchester and Leeds were a lot different.
Didn't she basically say what the guy in the middle said? He said there will be roster changes if things don't get better. She asked for clarification that's what he meant.
I agree, that's the part that makes it the most absurd. Assuming that it was wrong to talk about roster changes on a desk (even typing this feels dumb), shouldn't the person bringing it up be held responsible instead of the person trying to clarify it? Get me out.
@@the_bottomfragger This is the first time in history ever that the phrase I didn't say it. Actually made people think he didn't say it or shit. This is the so unreal, they talk for 2 minutes about kicking someone if TL lose, she then restates it from it seems desk host position and she gets the blame. Holly molly. I knew Valorant was watered down version of CS, but mate the players are the worst.
Honestly if I hear about how that player spoke to her, I'm removing that guy if I wasn't already (especially if he's bad). Telling someone they only mean their apology if they make it publicly is actually just blackmail and I wouldn't have it
Valorant pros think they are hot shit huh. Well we will see in the couple of years when new gen of pure valorant talent will kick their asses out of the scene
man i miss eleague with you, thorin and m0e Desks don't try to entertain these days, it's just dry af analysis. The point of desks is to add more content to the stream and keep viewers between maps/games.
That is disheartening. I think any great competitor is harder on himself than any journalists or analyst would ever be. So if that is what sets you off, you probably should be kicked because you probably don't have the drive to improve yourself.
So she quite succinctly summed up the previous 2 mins discussion between the boys with a pithy joke and shes in trouble? Holy fuck. She wasnt even the one making the argument he should be kicked, it was the lads...
I'm glad I grew up on CS, Quake and Unreal. I was called unimaginable things constantly. It not only gave me thicker skin but it vastly expanded my vocabulary.
in the meantime in the NBA Shaq told a player (Donovan Mitchell) in a post game interview that he didn't think he was good enough to reach a high level and he just stood there and took it
there's literally a segment called shaqtin a fool making fun of dumb plays on TNT lol tbf, Shaq's ego is fragile enough despite being like the most dominant big ever
I was crying laughing through this. The whole thing is sooo weak. I really hope she is being backed up by people in the Valorant community, because this is utterly crazy. If it was really that bad, why isn't anybody persecuting the other commentator?
I remember the whole cs 1.6 line up saying That eclipse "Shroud" was garbage and he wasnt ever going to be pro, He was like 14teen and laughing about the hate. Imagine if he cried on twitter about it 🤣
These valorant pros just want everyone to hold their hands and tell them that everything will be alright like a kindergarten student. She didn't even say it harshly, she basically just repeated what the other guy said as a joke. He shouldn't be kicked off liquid for playing bad, he should be kicked for being a mama's boy kindergarten student.
If and when Valorant actually becomes a scene and Thorin in his infinite quest to become the best content creator of any esport ever, gets involved by doing a podcast, those players are going to have a fucking aneurysm
I genuinely cannot believe the people in the comments buy this shit. VALORANT BAD CS GOOD. VALORANT SOFT CS TOUGH. I feel sorry for everyone thinking this is real valuable journalism.
You see this kind of shit on twitter every day when you call someone out in game, wannabe streamers cry and bitch and moan and they tell people to do better. It kind of bogles me how people who say do better need to do better themselfes
Entirely fine question. If player is unable to deliver the replacement should always be in the air... Unless the brand value of the player is higher than his output in game...
I totally get when the players get mad when they are called out for their poor play. Get mad, talk shit back, use it as motivation to be better the next time. Throwing a pity party for yourself is some weak shit.
Riot has a terrible track record for it's esports pro's being whiny children. Broxah in League of Legends had a similar drama a few weeks ago where he tried to leverage his fanbase to essentially get several content creators to take back saying he was one of the worst junglers in the league.
When will these orgs realize that if these ex csgo pros that switched to valorant still had the drive and hunger and ambition to grind they'd still be on top of their shit in csgo and would have never have had to switch to a different game to begin with. Give it some time, it'll all blow over.
The most shocking part of this video for me is that Richard uses light theme on twitter 😔. I don't think I can take it guys. I am tearing up at the thought of his eyes getting blasted by 5000000 lumens of white ass light.
12:23 in all honesty, most young, healthy, and smart kids only play esports because they're not good at playing sports. They want the safe environment of being good, overpaid, and spoiled but without any criticism whatsoever because they're made of gold and can't take it. That child could never take the hate that olofmeister took because of the olofboost, for example. Or how flusha is still called a cheater, and that's only in CS:GO. If you think about the hate that Solo got for the 322 in Dota, a lot of people wanted him banned forever, which is way worse than "mean people do mean words to i :(".
Jesus fucking christ, apologise in public or it doesnt count?? Are we going complete reverse here? I loved it when I had to apologise in public so everyone knew that I didnt mean it. When I actually fucked up, I went there in person asked to be forgiven. Fucking hell if anything it is on you to come out in social media and tell everyone that she reached out to you.
Imagine Thoorin at valorant tournament desk lmao.
I believe the americans call this "The Nuclear Option" :D
Damn.. they would be tsunami of tears, they couldn't handle it.
The only way i would watch valorant lul
THORIN PLEASE DO JUST ONE FOR THE SAKE OF IT
@@fulcray It's high time that scene gets their version of a DEFCON 1, otherwise the whiny ones will keep whining.
valorant pros gotta lot of ego for being washed up cs pros
its the fragile ego mate, they know deep down that theyre gonna be shit out of luck if the scene grows and we get actual pros in there
preach
Francisco Sanchez I think that’s what happening right now, just look at TSM roster. They did really have a bit of an era at the beginning of the scene, however, as the scene grows, guys like Asuna, dicey, sinatraa, SicK, etc start to take over it, making those players seem to be outdated (except for drone, Wardell and Subroza, who are really trying so hard to carry their washed teammates)
@@FranciscoSanchezXO imagine being tilted over all of this bullshit LOL
@@PhucNguyen-cd8hz I reember SicK being a cs player that got kicked out of complwxity back then, are we talking about that sick?
this is about the weakest thing i have ever seen. Meanwhile thoorin violated a baguette on stream
that baguette smashing is why cs is the superior esports
@@LAZLOWEYO I can't even remember what came first, the Baguette or Harambe.
Equally influential moments in internet history ofc
SACRÉ BLEU!
Please, share the link of Thoorin's violation.
@@hasbullik7264 th-cam.com/video/UnZPTfAhRys/w-d-xo.html
Valorant is counterstrike for people who Endorsed bully hunters.
NAME THE BULLY
@@hollenhammer freakazoid ;-;
harassment is not a game. Bullyhunters .org
I actually like playing Valorant but holy shit these guys are weak. It clearly shows who grew up on COD and CS and who grew up on the parents golf course 😂
they only want D riders in the scene.this is why people dont take esport seriously.lol remember moe murdered koosta? imagine moe at the desk😂 edit: you say it richard.spot on
Demanding that an apology be made publicly instead of just accepting the private one is one of the most entitled crybaby things you can do. If she had first went and did it publicly, it could've been seen as her trying to smooth it over for herself in front of everyone. But instead she did the right thing and contacted him privately. Him telling her to do it publicly just shows that he wasn't interested in an apology of any kind, and merely wanted to make a spectacle of it.
her mistake in apologizing in the 1st place. her place is to criticize and analyze what the players do, not cuddling them after they fucked up.
Literally the only thing that happened was a bunch of middle schoolers figured out how to log in to twitter and whined for a week. This is nothing.
He's British too which is even more embarrassing. Imagine him at the UKT lans or even SGL lans, bloke would be in therapy for life..
I mean, British people aren't as hard as they make themselves out to be. The past 5 years have exemplified that. We like to think that we're hard because of our empire and can't get over it.
It's a miracle he didn't break down after a solo queue match
Honestly I don’t think British are hard, ridiculously stubborn and hearty.... tough...not so much... IMO
@@lurka1337 Depends on the region. In the South and midlands, you won't find many tough guys. (Speaking as a Southern fairy).
My experiences of working and going clubbing in areas like Manchester and Leeds were a lot different.
@@lurka1337 upnorth mate were hard as fuck
As the legend dusT once said; "I just wanna say from the bottom of me heart, that I apologise for absolutely nothing at all."
Didn't she basically say what the guy in the middle said?
He said there will be roster changes if things don't get better.
She asked for clarification that's what he meant.
I agree, that's the part that makes it the most absurd. Assuming that it was wrong to talk about roster changes on a desk (even typing this feels dumb), shouldn't the person bringing it up be held responsible instead of the person trying to clarify it? Get me out.
@@the_bottomfragger The desk segment was pure throwaway shit anyway. Who gives a fuck.
@@the_bottomfragger This is the first time in history ever that the phrase I didn't say it. Actually made people think he didn't say it or shit. This is the so unreal, they talk for 2 minutes about kicking someone if TL lose, she then restates it from it seems desk host position and she gets the blame. Holly molly. I knew Valorant was watered down version of CS, but mate the players are the worst.
Hey, Richard, it's everyone here on another video.
A god tier cult fanbase
Always here to watch the fire and maybe throw some sticks in.
Just sitting here thinking how much feelings will be crushed if Thorin had a go on the Valorant scene
Or ow. NA people are way more sensitive than EU players imo
@@julianr4375 guys a eu player chief.
@@julianr4375 he's from the UK you dumbfuck.
Honestly if I hear about how that player spoke to her, I'm removing that guy if I wasn't already (especially if he's bad). Telling someone they only mean their apology if they make it publicly is actually just blackmail and I wouldn't have it
She said exactly what the guy said, though.
I wonder why they singled her out?
Because she looked weak and they thought they could bully her into apologising
Sexism, i guess..
the worst thing is how he demanded the apology made public, what an absolute melt he is
If anything it should always be the opposite.
Valorant pros think they are hot shit huh. Well we will see in the couple of years when new gen of pure valorant talent will kick their asses out of the scene
+1
You don't have to wait a couple of years for that, it will happen soon
man i miss eleague with you, thorin and m0e
Desks don't try to entertain these days, it's just dry af analysis. The point of desks is to add more content to the stream and keep viewers between maps/games.
Fitting that valorant players want broadcasts to be softer and nicer, much like their game
Apologizing is the worst thing you can do in this situation.
That is disheartening. I think any great competitor is harder on himself than any journalists or analyst would ever be. So if that is what sets you off, you probably should be kicked because you probably don't have the drive to improve yourself.
i woulda loved the time-out to apologize and talk about feelings after Stewie knifed coldzera in lower b...........
Or the time when S1mple tried to knife Coldzera
So she quite succinctly summed up the previous 2 mins discussion between the boys with a pithy joke and shes in trouble? Holy fuck. She wasnt even the one making the argument he should be kicked, it was the lads...
That was absolutely nothing what she said. Holy shit.
Subroza blocked me on twitter for asking him to handle the banter in a professional manner
Is there something he can download to get onto a professional level in that respect?
@@mooncalf_4534 should start with brain
No, he didn't and you know that
what a sub fucker
"I've been busy, you know this, that, trying to save competitive CS" hahahaha
SHE FUCKING APOLOGISED PERSONAL TO HIM for fucking nothing and this dude still wants a public apology. You have got to be kidding me.
"I'm using the term beard loosely, obviously"
That last "idiots" just as Richard is losing the last of his sanity. Stay golden Rich
I'm glad I grew up on CS, Quake and Unreal. I was called unimaginable things constantly. It not only gave me thicker skin but it vastly expanded my vocabulary.
14:59 "I'VE BEEN ON THE FUCKING STREEEEEEEEETS" fucking nearly pissed myself
Comment for algorithm. Keep up the great work Rich
in the meantime in the NBA Shaq told a player (Donovan Mitchell) in a post game interview that he didn't think he was good enough to reach a high level and he just stood there and took it
there's literally a segment called shaqtin a fool making fun of dumb plays on TNT lol
tbf, Shaq's ego is fragile enough despite being like the most dominant big ever
I was crying laughing through this. The whole thing is sooo weak. I really hope she is being backed up by people in the Valorant community, because this is utterly crazy. If it was really that bad, why isn't anybody persecuting the other commentator?
15:24 was far more savage than anything said on that desk.
I remember the whole cs 1.6 line up saying That eclipse "Shroud" was garbage and he wasnt ever going to be pro, He was like 14teen and laughing about the hate. Imagine if he cried on twitter about it 🤣
These valorant pros just want everyone to hold their hands and tell them that everything will be alright like a kindergarten student. She didn't even say it harshly, she basically just repeated what the other guy said as a joke. He shouldn't be kicked off liquid for playing bad, he should be kicked for being a mama's boy kindergarten student.
So glad we have someone like Richard. Otherwise I don't know how the esports scene would be today
the last word sum it all up perfectly
"WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT? YOU HAVE A BEARD!" HAHAHAHA
If and when Valorant actually becomes a scene and Thorin in his infinite quest to become the best content creator of any esport ever, gets involved by doing a podcast, those players are going to have a fucking aneurysm
12:27 I was crying of laughter 😂
"You have a beard!" that got me. Ha. Keep up the great content
I genuinely cannot believe the people in the comments buy this shit. VALORANT BAD CS GOOD. VALORANT SOFT CS TOUGH. I feel sorry for everyone thinking this is real valuable journalism.
If you think this is journalism then I'd save your pity because you're going through the one life you have as a moron.
You see this kind of shit on twitter every day when you call someone out in game, wannabe streamers cry and bitch and moan and they tell people to do better. It kind of bogles me how people who say do better need to do better themselfes
45 minute apology as if she was denouncing herself in Maoist China.
17:42 What a beautiful rant. I was hoping for that moment and it ended the video perfectly.
Rich should have a recurring segment called, 'Get off my lawn,' where he talks about how easy people have it these days
Nice mini fridge, that's how you know you've arrived!
the disk golf throwing tutorial in the suggestion is killing me
Shox best friend must be laughing his ass of if he sees this
"Fuck your feelings" best quote ever
This is so unreasonable.
Imagine being so soft. Lad must have marshmallow running through his veins.
Lmao, best way to end a video and a classic richard lewis quote, i believe im going to quote you everytime i say the word ‘idiot’ from now on
If this is what the Valorant scene is about, it needs to die... Caralho...
Entirely fine question. If player is unable to deliver the replacement should always be in the air... Unless the brand value of the player is higher than his output in game...
She should have held up a giant Kappa face while she said it. I've heard that can help.
i know about 10 players on top of my hat who get 100s of tweets and thousands of comments how much they suck , if they win or lose every single game
Not to mention the hundreds of death threats they get from gamblers, when they lose money on a bet.
"I'm using the term beard loosely, obviously" pun intended mate?
Valorant is just nerf CS anyway, so it's logical the players would be as soft.
I fucking love these videos from you Richard. Laughing from start to finish.
Great video Richard!
This is hilarious. lol What's going on in that game? Is it going to be a safe space full of hugs or what?
Love the thumbnail btw. :D
“Can you imagine what would happen if you couldn’t say a player should be removed”
90% of HLTV threads would disappear in an instant.
Idiots
-Richard Lewis 2021
what in the actual fuck is going on :S MORE PILLOWS AND LESS SHARP EDGES!!! the world is crumbling before our eyes
Just Imagine Thorin in this scene, they would start crying live on stream just because his jokes are to much for them. These kids need to grow up.
Counter-Strike for toddlers. Million dollar industry. When's team Teletubbies joining Valorant?.
Always a pleasure listening to your videos
oh fucking hell how the tables have turned with yinsu collin.
full on twitter melt down when someone called her boyfriend a fraud
nice!! you didn t even know Brady just took the buc's to Super Bowl today when you recorded the video?
Comment for the algorithm. Keep up the great work!
Most pro have become soft, they get traited like superstars.
this needs more views
Imagine this clown at a LAN or something LMAO
Every sport has its softies who can't handle negative attention from media/fans.
that's just true idont understand whats up with them cs fans like ima cs fann too but wtf is that mentality of hating on a game but players :(
A fucking MAN, a MAN made those tweets crying about that joke.
1yr later soulcas has grown up a lot and is genuinely a nice guy. This was really childish from him but I’m glad he’s matured
To quote a certain journalist: "Bitch made, absolutely bitch made"
Damn Im actually pretty shocked that its an EU player who pulled this shit off...
I was legitimately waiting for more... Was that fucking it? Im so dissapointed :D
Richard, we need you and Thorin on a two hours discussion regarding Valorant and feelings! :D I have already prepared the popcorn!
m0e at eleague was hilarious
I totally get when the players get mad when they are called out for their poor play. Get mad, talk shit back, use it as motivation to be better the next time.
Throwing a pity party for yourself is some weak shit.
they were exactly trying out jugi instead of soulcas
Lost it at "YOU HAVE A BEARD!"
Next question to ask, if a male made this comment, would there be the same outrage?
Fair question tbh, we know how Riot is with treating female staff
you know the only words of encouragement that guy needed was "git gud scrub"
Riot has a terrible track record for it's esports pro's being whiny children. Broxah in League of Legends had a similar drama a few weeks ago where he tried to leverage his fanbase to essentially get several content creators to take back saying he was one of the worst junglers in the league.
When will these orgs realize that if these ex csgo pros that switched to valorant still had the drive and hunger and ambition to grind they'd still be on top of their shit in csgo and would have never have had to switch to a different game to begin with. Give it some time, it'll all blow over.
Sounds like a bad sign for Valorant that this sort of thing is becoming acceptable
"you AVE a beard" 🤣🤣🤣
Was she forced to apologize by upper management or something? Why would anyone apologize for that
The most shocking part of this video for me is that Richard uses light theme on twitter 😔. I don't think I can take it guys. I am tearing up at the thought of his eyes getting blasted by 5000000 lumens of white ass light.
Is that it? The 14 year olds in call of duty are more brutal.
Always dropping mad fire 🔥 Richard. Well said lol
HAHAHAH Damn Richard you went in with a flamethrower! GET EM DUDE!
Ah I really miss those type of videos. RL with the cold hard truth as usual. Also serves me as a reminder that Valorant still exists lol
holy shit this is WILD
12:23 in all honesty, most young, healthy, and smart kids only play esports because they're not good at playing sports. They want the safe environment of being good, overpaid, and spoiled but without any criticism whatsoever because they're made of gold and can't take it. That child could never take the hate that olofmeister took because of the olofboost, for example. Or how flusha is still called a cheater, and that's only in CS:GO. If you think about the hate that Solo got for the 322 in Dota, a lot of people wanted him banned forever, which is way worse than "mean people do mean words to i :(".
Jesus fucking christ, apologise in public or it doesnt count?? Are we going complete reverse here? I loved it when I had to apologise in public so everyone knew that I didnt mean it. When I actually fucked up, I went there in person asked to be forgiven. Fucking hell if anything it is on you to come out in social media and tell everyone that she reached out to you.
that fridge tho