Poison Meta: +120% Final Dmg?! Formulas & secrets!! (Goodbye Poi Tata, Hello Chimera~) | Ragnarok M
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 29 มิ.ย. 2024
- With the new "Control Bar" system, Poison builds have instantly become the new meta. We'll walk through it from the basics all the way to the inner workings of the code, where you'll find useful tips for PVE and PVP~
Timestamps:
00:00 Intro
00:51 Poison Set
02:59 Technical Details
04:31 Formulas
04:53 Table 1: Final Damage
05:23 Table 2: Status Damage
05:42 Important Note #1
06:00 Important Note #2
06:29 Key Takeaways
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Great guide on the poison meta! Very detailed :)
Very detailed explanation! You got yourself a new subscriber. Thank you for your video.
Thanks for the guide, very detailed and easy to understand 👍👍
Great info as always, thanks!!
Thank you so much. Very high quality content.
ty for details, nice work
Glorious information, thank you!
I’m addicted your contents. Tysm
Such a good video. Thank you so much 👊
fantastic video!
wow very detailed guide 😮
Thanks for the take away notes. I just found out mixing cursed hand with poison build was counterproductive. After focusing mainly on poison build, may damage improved a lot.
Most useful !!
Thanks for the video. Amazing job! How does ore spirit card hold up against these other offhand cards?
Other cards give about 10% total damage, so you need at least 2 statuses for Ore Spirit to match, or 4 statuses to match Ninja Card
Your best video yet. Great job
U should give video real whitestar airship instance bro.. cause i already try this last night.. 2lod, chimera star, + lily tail.. using genos.. but my dmg decrease half of my usual dmg.. or maybe something wrong with my setup.. thanks..
great guide i wanna try this but i dont have chimera, maybe if im lucky in kp rolls.
Do you know what status' count for Ore Spirit and if the Joint Beat status count?
Does the Disaster Arcane Rune, which increased abnormal status attack take effect on poisoned targets?
Great video, it's a bit late but is this build good for Rath? Elemental attacks like holy, fire etc. have effects on this build or not,? What are good classes can use this build?
Yes, good for Rath or any class that doesn't have Status Vulnerability passive. Element doesn't matter
hi do you have all the list of final dmg and status dmg of card and equiips.? tia.
awesome analysis and information. thanks so much.
Personally I don't think getting poisoned (in pvp) intentionally is good as it would risk receiving the highest (120%) dmg modifier to self. But I see the point if you prefer getting poisoned over getting stunned that rendering you not able doing anything or maybe other unclearable debuffs. Do you mind elaborating more on the favorable scenario for this case?
The poison multiplier is only 110%. If you are both poisoned AND stunned/frozen, you would receive the poison multiplier. The stun/freeze multipliers are 150%+ so they are way worse. (It does not mean you can't receive other CCs.)
@@Orissamr I see.. I havent checked the stun/freeze total multipliers. I thought poison is the highest. Thanks2
@@Orissamrmay i know from what item/skill gets stun/freeze multiplier to 150?
@@rulexargaming4824 Stun: Rotar Zairo ★ Card, Orc Hero Card depo, Thunder God's Kabuto
Freeze: Status Vulnerability + Marina Card depo, Garm Card depo, SK/DeadSK Card
@@Orissamr thank you :D
Is this good even u dont have high depo or poi tata is best for f2p?
Rm with poison build does rune attribute posion effect ?
so as a ronin for AS i can still benefit from status vulnerability even if my team mates is using poison lily? i just need to stay away on equipping poison lily so i can benefit on my stat vulnerability? i can use chimera set as well for statVulnerability too, right? so as a ronin just stay away from poison tail? also i would like to know if you can put multiple statuses on MVP? or is it just one active only at a time?
Status Dmg modifier is picked based on what status the TARGET has. It does not matter what you are wearing, if target is Poisoned then Status Vulnerability will never work. There can be multiple status on a target for other calculations.
May damage test na po ba poitata star vs chimera star card?
Hi! Will this affect the fire reduction debuff applied by Burn? Concerned with my Genos haha
No, I think that's totally separate
This dude is cooking hot shit with this build. Will test too
does this apply to hela? can hello do better in pve now?
Hello not sure if I missed it but is there any specific stat allocation to make the poison more effective? like what is the stat to make sure poison was 100% up? TIA
You don't need any stats for this
You still need a fairly decent luk since resist via stats is still applicable even on monsters
dayum. are you a coder perhaps? you understood this formulas. do you also theorycraft so much
btw ore spirit card will work good or it will has same problem with status prior? ;D
It still works normally
6:30 Wait... so even if the mvp have multiple debuff status applied (burn, bleed, poison) and I use card such as ore spirit which will give [5% fdi on each abnormal status], it will still only give 5% instead of 15% fdi?
Ore Spirit is Final Dmg not Status Dmg, it still works normally
@@Orissamr Ohhh so it's separate calculation, that's good to know. Thanks! 😉
Which is better
Ninja card or Ore Spirit?
And
2 walter card (1 depo 1 used) or Exe card?
Please guide me lol😂
Ninja vs Ore Spirit - just do the math based on what CC you're using.
Walter is better (also final dmg).
great job! Like.
But it's freaking stupid when ronin will lost his damage if MVP is poisoned(let's say by Valk and her poison/chimera build) and his Burn/Status Vulnerability will not work.
Hope devs will fix it. Guess this mechanics were implement at the very beginning of this game.
Tested by one of our whale ronin, boosted ton more dmg. He completely switched over to poison
@@rev6929 ye but when status Burn/Status Vulnerability + poison build ronin will be more powerfull :D
It can also be use to any other dps class like m,ninja or Elga?
Almost anyone can use it except homunculus
how about saints pain release or valk's burning feathers, do they cancel the poison thingy?
Those are debuffs, not regular statuses
@@Orissamr got it, so overall theres like 3 types of "debuff" now huh
Work well with anacondaq card to add more %dmg
anacondaq is dmg to poison element.
take note that poison status will not change the target element to poison.
hello does this work with genos? because genos attack skill causes burn??
Genos burn and poison can exist together but there is no damage increase for burn
Im sure after theyre done selling the cards (lod and chimera) in the next rate up, theyll nerf this. Just gotta make a quick buck off the players
Hi, i would like to ask for The relic which is better for poison build? LOV or Chaotic blade?
It depends how many statuses, the math is simple
If only poison and flame feather (dont know counted anot) do you think chaotic will win over lov
Flame feather doesn't count
5:42 - is ore miner card an exception to this?
Ore Spirit is Final Dmg not Status Dmg
Bro so final dmg still apply to target with burn,bleed and poison right? example ronin wear chimera card, ore card ,2 p lod card with burn effect from skill and poison effect from tail so his final dmg = (25%(passive skill)+10%(ore 2 status)+20%(chimera)+40%(lod))*1.1(lili tail) .
Status Vulnerability will NOT work when target is poisoned
@@Orissamr @@ so passive skill only work when target in burning, freezing, stunned and bleeding status. Even target is burning if we apply poison effect to target so it will disable Status Vulnerability?
@@Orissamr ty bro
@@Orissamr bro how u can know what is status dmg and final dmg?
You have to read the game code, no way to tell from the descriptions
Hello, is this correct?
Poison build is applicable on:
Ora, purga, ec, ttl, chaotic, srp and airship
Field mvp and some void mvp
Not applicable on:
Cml, lil, and psr
No, it only works in the instances shown in patch notes (see first line in the video)
I wonder if anyone can let me know if poison lily tail and chimera card works for Taekwon?
Yes, works for everyone
@Orissamr thank you sir
sadly cannot poison airship xD but poison build works well on ora and ec
Poison works in airship now
@@Orissamr for real nicesuuu might try that later thank you for the info much love happy holidays
But some mvp cant be poison like in airship or void?
Airship works. Void only some
how about pumpkin icing
it has no cooldown right is it also useless like curse hand?
It still applies curse, there's no Status Dmg attached
@@Orissamr damn, i just put my +15 voucher on it :(
sorry for the confusion may i ask, base on what i understand on this video
so ore spirit has a decription of "While attacking a target in abnormal conditions, final DMG +5% additionally for each of its abnormal state "
but base on my understanding on this video if it poison only poison will take the dmg modifier, so meaning ore spirit "dmg for each abnormal status" is useless?
great question Rhatz8429, I also want to ask this. If poison is take priority above else, does that mean Ore spirit is always fixed to 5% final dmg only?
Ore Spirit is Final Dmg not Status Dmg, it still works
I have chimera, is it still better than poi even without depo?
You should test it yourself but probably yes
Do you think Is it OP? and DEV will fix it or not? they might be unexpected this formula.
Not any more OP than new relics and stuff :P
@@Orissamr Great!! I just snaped Chimera.XD
sir, can you confirm that 2 LoD's bonus damage (20%+20%) stacks in WSA instance?
Yes it does
Does ore spirit work if ninja card is not available?
Ore Spirit is much worse in most situations and might be worse than Alice etc.
Is ronins dmg to burned units, final dmg as well? Kinda like how poison build works.
Ronin Status Vulnerability is Status Dmg
Correct me if wrong, 😅 formula for ronin burn is:
Status Vulnerability + Berserk Breath Rune
= (1 + 0) x (1 + (0.34 + 0.30))
= 1.0 x 1.64
= 1.64 (+64% Final Dmg)
Is this also effective to any weekly dungeon?
Probably the best build for Airship right now
Hi, can this chimera star + lily poisonset use on pvp, psr, cml, lil?
Yes, No, No, No
@@Orissamr ty bro
Hi bro one more question can I use ore spirit card if I don’t have ninja card?
To combo with chimera star + lily
Yes but it's bad unless you have 2 or more statuses
But if u use LOD, u will lost ignore def 50% from mino deposit?
use acnient armor with 20% dmg to large
then find gacha or card or runes that have large dmgto accumulate the remaining 5% large
@@rhatz8429 In case with 2xLOD, AE armor 20% + Mino star depo 1% = 21% we need more 30% Let brainstorm
I think better use offhand ignore def then
is the 120 final damage also apply in pvp?
Yes if target is poisoned
Can you try psr ship cml and lil with that build
Dude read
Does not work in CML LIL PSR
@@Orissamr Devs plan to bring it to PSR LIL CML later right?
No clue, why are you asking me? :P
lol
can you apply poison stat to MVP void
Some of them, not all of them. You can check if they have the Control Bar
@@Orissamr do you have a list of void MVP can apply poison?
Just check Control Bar, it is easy to see
Is it work on field mvp?
Yes
Is it working on homunculus?
No
Does it works with begetter?
Final damage won't transfer to Homunculus
I miss your voice hahaha
Work for boss void ?
Some, not all (yet)
Can nogu uae poison build ?
Any class can uses poison build. The most important must have item is the tail gacha
Yup it works for everyone
Total is 110? Not 120,right?
The formula is in the video
Is void included?
Some MVPs, not all. Check if they have the Control Bar
man such an awesome video shame that the game is so utterly horrible
not really horrible but too inclined on spenders and game is dying too but still enjoyable ( I only do PVE)
So thats why ore spirit is bad?
No, Ore Spirit is fine, it's not in the Status Dmg formula
@@Orissamr yeah i read more and more comments xD, ty btw!
b2k
Poi tata is still overall winner. Just saying