The Dominion had a Breen in the same prison as Bashir and Martok. That could mean that Breen was replaced by a Founder who manipulated the Breen into joining the Dominion. Dukat mentioned that there was a Cardassian embassy on Breen and that it was bitter cold on Breen. That contradicts Weyoun's claim that Breen has a temperate climate. The Breen wanted control of Romulus from the Dominion, which could mean they bear some animosity towards the Romulans. But then, they also wanted earth.
"That contradicts Weyoun's claim that Breen has a temperate climate." didnt he say its "quite pleasant"? Which basically tells us nothing ebcause that poisoned Drink was also "quite toxic". And in general Weyoun´s behaviour is full of deception and trying to get reactions from others. So i dont know if that is an "reliable source".
I could imagine two scenarios. First, if it is a group of species, then their would be multiple "home worlds". Number 2, they are smart enough to not really show everyone their real home world so they lie about the real one and picked a worthless frozen planet. It would funny of they picked a frozen world for the Cardassians specifically because Cardassians hate the cold.
Apparently it's from some not very well known sci-fi show in the early 70s. So Star Trek wasn't ripping off Star Wars, they both were ripping off something obscure from even earlier. Same explanation for the comic characters Swamp Thing and Man Thing (came out the same month, both based on obscure character "The Heap" from 15 years earlier). No idea what the deal is with the 2 Dennis The Menace that came out in the US and the UK at the same time.
The Breen were initially an improvised low-budget creation. The production people didn't want to bother designing new aliens, new makeup and prosthetics, etc ... and they only needed one or two for the first Breen episodes ... so they repurposed old props and wardrobes, quickly put together half-assed costume which completely covered the performers. Surprisingly popular with fans so they got a lot more detail (yet carefully didn't get much specific detail) in later appearances. Not be the actual headgear prop worn in Star Wars, but definitely drew influence from it.
Klingons: "We will destroy you for honor and glory!" Breen: "Nope." *Activates Dampener* "Enjoy your slow death as your life support systems fail. We'll salvage your ships later." Klingons: "That... that's not honorable at all." Breen: "Honor doesn't win battles. Defeating your enemies does."
@@astraloutlaw6549 The Jem'Hadar fear no one but the Founders... the Breen are given a wide berth as demanded by the Female Founder as part of their alliance agreement, therefore the Jem'Hadar obey and give a lot of freedom/clearance for their new allies.
@@phrophetsamgames The character of the Dominion was self-serving and self-righteous. That characteristic fits the Breen. Like attracts like and why the Romulans and Dominion had more success interacting with the Breen than Star Fleet.
I believe the Dominion promised to give the Breen either Earth or Romulus when the war was over. I don't remember which one. I haven't watched DS9 in a while.
I wish the Star Trek universe had continued on after the Voyager series, instead of going backward with Enterprise and Discovery. I loved the story lines in TNG and DS9 and even Voyager to an extent. I would love to see the relationship between the broken Cardassian people and the Bajorans, seemingly they both have something in common after the war. I would love to see the Bajorans finally join the Federation and maybe even the Ferengi since they had reformed their culture and laws. I would also had loved to see more dealings with species from the Delta quadrant, specifically the Viddiian, which were by far the best villains in the entire Voyager series. (We all know what the writers did to the Borg.)
I never cared for Enterprise, and I never have had a netflix account so I couldn't see Discovery. Either way, I do agree that things should have been different (including the netflix exclusivity deal) after Voyager (which I personally did like). DS9 and TNG (respectively) where my favorites though.
I would LOVE to see the Vidiians having to deal with the Hirogen hunters!! Or even the Hirogen vs the Klingons!!! One of my biggest gripes in the whole Trekiverse, is that it always seems like it's only ever the Federation that has to deal with outside threats!! Borg invasion in TNG? Do they target the Breen? The Klingons? The Romulans? Nope, they HAVE to target the Federation! Border conflicts don't count, since there's almost always going to be border tensions and every culture deals with them, but outside threats that come from _Elsewhere_ and that don't share a border with ANY alpha quadrant species (or the [beta quadrant] Romulans) ALWAYS seem to only ever affect the Federation!! In fairness, however, I suppose it's possible that the Klingons, the Romulans, the Cardassians, etc, have all had to deal with things like The Crystalline Entity (or whatever the outside threat in question may be), but they choose not to make that information public and so our friends in the Federation just never hear of it. Still, nothing will ever compare to that episode* where Captain Kirk find some Protomolecule residue in a Prothean ruin and needs to travel forwards in time to get help from Picard's enterprise and her crew, to stop an unknown threat from both the Protomolecule creators AND from the Reaper invasion!!!! Best Episode EVER!!! * = It's possible that this might have been a dream that I confused with a real episode...
@@Raz.C It's not always clear, but it seems like the Federation is absolutely huge. It's questionable how canon it is, but in the 'map of the alpha quadrant' you can find online, the Federation contains a lot more planets and controls more territory than the Klingons, Romulans and Cardassians put together. The reason that Starfleet has to worry about war with these other powers is Starfleet is more like an armed NGO than an imperial military and doesn't pursue military dominance. Up until the discovery of the borg, Starfleet didn't even build "warships" - their cruisers were primarily science and humanitarian ships with combat ability as a tertiary consideration. They don't conscript anybody and only maintain enough combat-capable ships to maintain the peace. As a result the Federation is relatively weak despite having dozens of member species and their homeworlds. Even so, it is telling that aside from the Borg and the Dominion, the traditional rival races like the Klingons, Romulans and Cardassians never considered total war against the Federation a viable option, always opting for schemes and conflicts over limited objectives, usually a planet or two. The Borg and Dominion were the only entities that the Federation (that is, from the TNG era onward) as a whole was truly threatened by. So naturally they encounter all the weird threats; they're the ones looking for them. Incidentally I feel sure that the Reapers were at least partly inspired by the Borg and V'ger.
@@dark7element I get what you're saying, which means that I don't think I explained my own position very well. Let me try this: It seems like starfleet is the Earth Space Fleet, rather than the Federation Space Fleet. Sure, you find Vulcans here and there along with Andorians and Tellerites, Betazeds, etc... But they seem like token additions here and there, rather than the millions from those worlds one would expect. Instead, it seems like Earth is the only planet, humans are the only race which has millions of representatives in Star Fleet. There should be millions of people from each of the two hundred odd Federation worlds, all in Star Fleet. If that WERE the case, then none of the stellar neighbours of the Federation would be able to compete militarily with Star Fleet or the Federation. because- everything else aside- a Galaxy Class starship or even an Intrepid class starship (not to mention the Defiant class) is more than a match for any Romulan/ Klingon/ Cardassian warship, even though these Federation vessels aren't warships (Defiant aside, but we didn't mention that anyway)...
What if the Breen homeworld is tidally locked to its star? You would have a world with a temperate light side and permanently subzero dark side. That way their world could be both seen as a pleasant environment by aliens, and dominated by a species evolved in the bitter cold of the night side. It might even explain how there could be multiple species of Breen, with each hailing from a different region of their homeworld (not unlike the Xindi I guess).
@Jeff somersby Not necessarily, they could have eyesight like nocturnal animals and in addition sonar or something else. You don't need a lot of light to see, just enough.
@@DMSProduktions a tidally locked planet will have no sunlight ever on one side and have sunlight for full day every day of the year on the opposite side
Maybe a "nation" of Augments, similar to Khan, that decided to keep to themselves rather than try to go for harebrained schemes or galactic domination? Would make sense. The Federation would likely genocide them all if they ever found out what exactly they are, which is why they avoid them, while they don't have such reservations about the Klingons (whom they dislike for attacking them without provocation), the Ferengi, and the Dominion. I mean, if you lead a group of people that all have unnatural blue hair from birth, and some faction, that doesn't know about you yet, made one of its core tenets that everyone with an "unnatural" hair color violates their laws and needs to die, you'd stay the hell away from them as much as you can, and if you end up in a war with these people, you're gonna make sure that every hit on them hurts (like the Breen's attack on San Francisco) so they know not to approach you.
To be honest I just think they are the opposite of the Tholians who thrive in extreme heat climates, and frankly, it is a lot easier to heat up a place and keep it hot than cool it down which could explain the constant suits.
@@funkmantim2661 That's surprisingly inaccurate. Though there are a lot of factors involved, It generally takes more energy to heat a space up than to cool it down. (I just looked it up: www.quora.com/Which-wastes-more-energy-air-conditioner-or-heater )
In an episode of DS9, I recall Weyoun describing the Breen home world as being green, lush and warm which made him wonder why they wear refrigeration suits.
The Breen are one my favorite species BECAUSE of their enigmatic nature. The mysteries surrounding them are compelling and engaging. This episode must have been difficult to compose, but it was well worth it. Well done!
Agreed. There is a habit of people wanting to know everything, but I think it takes away so much of the mystery. Not knowing every single detail makes them so much more interesting, they are definitely one of my faves, along with Andorians. Less really is more sometimes
"In order to be true to our nature, and our destiny, we must aspire to greater things. We have outgrown our cradle. It is futile to cry for mother's milk, when our true sustenance awaits us among the stars. " -Breen
In DS9 it is specially stated that the Breen homeworld is of typical human tempratures. Which is then further mentioned as to the mystery of the Breen's refrigeration suits
Yeah but I think their natural habitat is still on the temperate side, so he would still know what a normal humanoid would find comfortable. They may have no sense of aesthetics, but that's not quite an aesthetic property, it's more of a statistic and they should be great at statistics, I would assume as it would aid in their functions as dominion dignitaries.
The strange ship that the NX-01 encounters in "Fight or Flight" may be a Breen ship. Its appearance and behavior are more or less consistent. Also, as at least one other person pointed out, it's implied that the Founders may have replaced a Breen, which suggests... something?
A Founder tricking the Breen into the war makes sense, since the Breen don't seem like the types to involve themselves in other group's wars. Although, they did want Earth for some reason.
i love the beta canon explination for all the weirdness and conflicting facts: that the Breen are multiple species part of a group that took the federations 'we are all one' to such an extreme that they wear the armor so that no one discriminates even accidentally.
No, they just have a superior species complex to never see inferior species face to face. iscovery is showing the Breen in all their glory now, also they do bleed
It's not "thought", it's THOT; and it stands for "That Ho Over There". It's a sexist slur coined by incels and used by misogynists. There's your Interwebz trivia for the day.
@@weldonwin there was breen imprisoned with bashire, worf, martok and garack, it is possible that he was replaced from their world, maybe high political leader? a love those speculation :-D
@@weldonwin dont forget wayouns overall behaviour that can give hitns at what he defines as "quite pleasant". I mean remember that poisoned drink? what was his reaction to something extremly poisonous? "thats quite toxic, isnt it?" So .... for me personally that means "quite pleasant" could still mean a sub zero Planet if you can follow my way of thinking here.
It could be that the Breen are " Humans" and other species that we already know about that just didn't want to be part of the federation. That would explain why they don't have any dealings with them.
The entire race is made up of Neil Breen clones. That's why they call themselves the Breen. Twisted pair is technically a Star Trek spin-off because it stars two of the clones facing off!
All them dead Breens floating around and no one thought to pick some up for study? Pretty simple to keep them in refrigeration for poking and prodding. Federation is lacking...
@@Paulafan5 I agree. There is the episode where Kira and Dukat rescue his daughter from the Breen, and they both wear Breen suits they steal from them. Somehow they forgot to check what Breen look like inside the suits LOL. Their bodies must dissolve somehow, maybe natural decay like Changelings or maybe the suit itself uses acid or another substance to dissolve the body quickly and keep the Breen secrecy.
I thought their homeworld was temperate. Weyoun mentions this to Damar after a trip back from there, who then asks what the refrigeration suits were for to which Weyoun cannot answer. Also odd that neither Kira nor Dukat reported on what they look like after they took two Breen suits when rescuing his daughter.
@@scottmantooth8785 apparently there are several Breen species. one requires refrig suits and the soldier Breen are of a race that melts when you kill them.
The point that Kira and Dukat never mentioning what the Breen look like is why some say that the Breen are of a makeup that would literally evaporate when exposed to temperatures that are "normal" for other humanoids (so the specific Breen in question may have evaporated quickly enough once their suits were removed that Kira and Dukat never had the chance to get a good look at them).
Technically, Kira and Bashir only saw Breen suit interiors. It's implied that these suits previously had Breen occupants, but not explicitly stated and not strictly required.
@@pwnmeisterage This, seeing how secretive the Breen are, if they don't just explode/melt like suggested without the suit, i could totally see them having implants that turn their bodies into unrecognizable remains the moment they die or their suit is forcibly removed, making sure nobody ever sees an intact Breen or can use their bodies for say... the creation of bioweapons against them.
@@_Muzolf there is the theory that hey are ammonia-based lifeforms, and those refrigeration suits are so they dont die. there was another that a breen is made up from corpses and dead tissue from other species that were reanimated.
I for one, always subscribed to the theory that the Breen are the descendants of the Valakians, the aliens that Archer and Phlox refused to cure. It would be so wonderfully karmic.
So I’ve been rewatching DS9 recently and this throwaway line from season 7 has been bothering me. It’s stated that no one has ever seen one without their suit, but Dukat and Kira incapacitate a pair when they go to rescue Zial and use their suits as disguises to infiltrate the Breen compound. Then at the end of the show Kira does it again on Cardassia. Presumably Kira would have seen what they looked like underneath while she stripped one for his suit right?
My theory is that they likely have a suit that protects them from the environment around them, and then a second, combat suit that is layered on top of or attached on the previous one.
6:47 in DS9 Damar and Weyoun talked about the Breen homeworld. Weyoun said it was actual quite comfortable for most living things contrary to reports. unless they evolved from a very tiny region of that planet where its very cold, it just adds even more mystery to them
Weyoun may also have been lying or been misinformed. Also, the Breen encounter suits and technology may have been developed to survive their planet getting ravaged by a radical change in climate... which other species outside of their own consider pleasant. The lack of information makes just about all theories viable.
You forgot about the one Breen that was captive with Martok, Tain, and Dr. Bashir, plus a Romulan female, when Garak and Worf were captured by the dominion. That breen helped ot with the escape plan.
Their appearance in Lower Decks just raised a potential lore mine for one of the characters. Melee oriented Jack Ransom immediately went for his phaser mere seconds in his encounter with them (didn't even try to do his usual punch attacks) which hints he faced against the Breen in the Dominion War.
@@noabsolutelynot3660 oh definitely but compared to Mariner's self destructive - suicidal tendencies, Ransom's Breen PTSD is very out of left field so it hints the Breen got to him pretty hard for him to not even attempt his usual attack patterns (barehanded melee).
Given that Kira wears a Breen suit on Cardassia during the final days of the Dominion war, it's very likely she knows what a Breen looks like, unless she just found the suit empty somewhere.
I like to think the suits (or the Breen themselves) are outfitted with a device that vaporizes the body within moments of death. They don't destroy the suit, though, because they know it's *much* creepier to kill a Breen and take the helmet off, only to find that there's nothing there.
Perhaps the Breen homeworld is tidally locked? That would resolve the seemingly contradictory statements of Weyoun and Demar. Depending on it's position in it's orbit, a tidally locked planet would have both a completely ice ball side as well as a habitable zone of temperate land.
The books did a fantastic job exploring the Breen Confederacy; also their energy dampening weapon DIDN'T affect Klingons...that was the whole reason the Klingons were pushed to the forefront during the war.
Partially correct. At the first conflict the weapon effected all but ONE Klingon ship, apparently they had a Klingon version of Jordi Õ_Õ onboard that had modified the ship making the ship (accidentally?) Immune to the breen weapon. The rest of the Klingon fleet was decimated at that battle. However after that first battle the Klingon fleet that had remained behind and all newly made Klingon ships were able to be rapidly modified in the same manor as that sole surviving Klingon ship making them immune to the effects as well. That lead to them being pushed to the forefront because the federation and romulans took longer to adapt the Klingon modifications to their respective tech. But they all managed to make the modifications after some time and at that point the weapon was rendered totally useless against everyone.
All I know about the Breen is what's in the expanded universe novels, in those books there are multiple species in the Confederacy in which they all wear the suits in order to completely eliminate racism because you can't tell the race of whoever you're talking to, they are all Breen regardless of species.
I remember a episode where they talk about the home world being a Paradise planet and that it's peculiar that they wear refrigeration units for some reason
*they may not be able to do so...if anything they would be more interested in their technology than what passes for their biology as mentioned on a reddit commentary thread*
Their technology and their ships, yes. Their encounter suits, yes. Their entire biologies would most likely be converted to technology covering the skeleton, the skeleton the only solid and stable part of their biology, and only assimilating their brain long enough to absorb the information before converting that into a brainlike processor. So... more absorb than assimilate.
What would be funny if the the Breen-s habitual extreme caution and acting mysterious lead to the Borg barely even being aware of their existence. I can imagine the borgs attempt to gather info and assimilate some Breen like this. Borg cube enters Breen space - Never to return, collective never learns what happened to it. Attempted capture of Breen ships by the borg in neutral territories. - After the fifth time the breen ship being captured just exploded before anything could be learned from it, the collective stopped trying. Attempted assimilation of captured Breen from third party. - Biological discintiveness lost to suspected self destruct implant that turned the Bleens body into unrecognizable degraded biomass. Cold suit provided no useful new technology or insight for the collective. Attempted information gathering and summary based on own experiences and data assimilated from others. - Precious little information recovered, files mysteriously lost from the collectives data net shortly after, including own records of previous encounters. Breens very existence dismissed as myth created by some of the assimilated species by the collective. Breen territory is now marked on the collectives starmaps, as one giant navigational hazard to be avoided by Borg ships in the future.
If I'm not mistaken, he said it wasn't a frozen wasteland but much more amiable, but that doesn't stop it from being cold, so while our perception may be that's -100C, it may very well be, by that statement, -30C or something like that
Could be the Breen were decieving everyone on what planet is their home world. If your worried about someone having a fleet drop out of warp as close as possible to the planet and nuking it wouldn't it be better to tell everyone the center of your government is a minor colony you don't care about instead of the actual home world?
The Breen are probably my favorite species in Star Trek, if my avatar didn't make it clear enough. Cool design, awesome looking ships and a fascinatingly mysterious culture.
It is rather interesting that back in the Dominion war, they "wanted earth". That reinforces the Idea that they are worried about humanity/the Federation. A treath that can not be openly or indipendantly engaged, but still must be fought. Also didn't Weyoun say that the breen Homeworld actually had a mild climate?
Breen are secretly just Human free-market capitalists, forced off Earth centuries ago. The propaganda calls them "Augments" and "Genetically Engineered Tyrants".
I thank you, Rick of in-game on your rather hmmm insightful review of The Breen. Now in all these years no one has thought of capturing a few breen and volunteering them for some experimental voyages of discovery. I'm sure ways can be thought of to allow them to keep their gelatinous state without their uniforms, therefore allowing for a more engaging inspection. LLAP 🖖
Weyoon once remarked that the Breen homeworld is not the frozen wasteland people expect it to be and that it, in fact, has a temperate climate, the Breen are perfectly capable of surviving at room temperature and that no one knows what they're really hiding under those helmets.
For the longest time, one of the rewards on Star Trek Online when you played through the Breen missions was a Breen tactical bridge officer. The character Tran actually joined your crew. I loved this, actually. having a race we hardly know about all of a sudden becoming one of the leading characters on your crew? That just screams Star Trek. Being rewarded the Breen, the Reman and the Borg Drone was not something they should have removed from the game. Now I do believe it takes is Zen to acquire the Breen or Reman bridge officers... I understand the economics of why they may have made the change, but for gameplay and story wise, that was a poor decision. I found pure awesome anybody could get those kind of characters with just time and effort. Thank you, Rick, for this video specifically. I use my Breen all the time on sto, made him my Intelligence Officer. :3 So I thoroughly enjoyed this video.
@@sheilaolfieway1885 After completing the old Breen Cold War campaign, I think after completing Cold storage. You cant anymore, Breen can only be bought for 8000 Zen, now.
Minority species of mostly civilians or raiders. I assume you are talking about the cat-like humanoids that almost no Star Trek work mentions aside from passing, right? I'm curious too if there is more on them. A lot of people assume that the Kataan (if that is how you spell it) vessel in TNG with the games was manned by Catians (saying Kataans and the Catains [Caitans?] are the same species even though they did not at all look alike). I haven't heard clarification since I heard that debate decades ago.
One thing I like about the breen is they are still very mysterious. Which makes them naturally more scary. I love the Borg but over explaining them made them more know and less threating.
@@PouchMaster then why did you feel the need to point that out to _me specifically_ if you knew (assuming you watched the video like you say you did) that i waz literally just quoting someone else? Directing this comment of yours towards the someone who actually said it might have been more productive.
Great subject matter. I think the Breen, was an plot point to make DS9 more interesting like the Borg in TNG. It worked out but they were overplayed. Still a great video! What if the Breen were a former member of The Federation or mutant humans that would explain the hostility towards the Federation and particularly the Klingons?
Could be a hegemony structure exacting a tribute from their worlds in exchange for protection. As for captian or Thot status could be closer to a baron or lordship where they own a symbolic territory as reward for their position and these baronies collaborate to form a lower stage of government Thoughts?
@@daxammight It was an old bird of prey that had an older out-dated piece of warp core equipment (forget the name of the piece of equipment) that rendered the Breen energy dissipater useless. it was then ordered that all remaining ships be outfitted with this piece of technology specifically. :)
I read once that the Breen were based on the Arctic Wolf, where on Earth they can live at -70 degrees Fahrenheit (-21 degrees Celsius) due to having two layers of fur. This explains their encounter suit helmet looking like a snout.
didnt mention they are led by the teaching of their messiah "Neil" though his visual tomes are just as unintelligible as the rest of the breens thoughts and language :P
You should write a novel. With your vast knowledge you could probably weave a fantastic story encompassing the less known races of the startrek universe.
The disruptor model 'CRM-114' is a little reference to the CRM-114 discriminator from Dr. Strangelove: Or How I Learned To Stop Worrying And Love The Bomb.
If you really want to know about the Breen read the three book series Prey. You will learn more about the Breen from those books than you will anyplace else. It is also one of my favorite Star Trek novel series.
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"Why can't The Breen leave their adaptation suits?"
"They would be recognized."
"By who?"
"Everyone."
what if their like Polar Bears & other Arctic creatures adapted to cold environment's but unable to survive in higher temperatures
@Joshua Sharwood Thats what I said!
The strange sound they emit when they "speak", the Encounter suit, the secrecy---they ARE Vorlon......expies.
I can't find the words to adequately express how epic this joke of yours is.
Oh I get it, because they're thots!
Inside those suits Breen are collectives of evil tribbles.
*you mean that Tribbles when highly annoyed become sociopaths and become the Crites from the Critters movies?*
What a terribly scary thought lol
For all we know, that could be the case. Nobody can prove that it isn’t.
No wonder why these guys are so much trimble- err, I mean trouble!
*mirror universe tribbles*
The Dominion had a Breen in the same prison as Bashir and Martok. That could mean that Breen was replaced by a Founder who manipulated the Breen into joining the Dominion.
Dukat mentioned that there was a Cardassian embassy on Breen and that it was bitter cold on Breen. That contradicts Weyoun's claim that Breen has a temperate climate.
The Breen wanted control of Romulus from the Dominion, which could mean they bear some animosity towards the Romulans. But then, they also wanted earth.
The Bitter Cold and Temperate climate difference could be just because Weyoun like colder temperatures.
Cardassians think anything less than a heat wave is a bitter winter.
*that makes a lot of sense tactically*
"That contradicts Weyoun's claim that Breen has a temperate climate."
didnt he say its "quite pleasant"? Which basically tells us nothing ebcause that poisoned Drink was also "quite toxic".
And in general Weyoun´s behaviour is full of deception and trying to get reactions from others.
So i dont know if that is an "reliable source".
I could imagine two scenarios. First, if it is a group of species, then their would be multiple "home worlds". Number 2, they are smart enough to not really show everyone their real home world so they lie about the real one and picked a worthless frozen planet. It would funny of they picked a frozen world for the Cardassians specifically because Cardassians hate the cold.
Interesting how Breen headgear strongly resembles that of the bounty hunter helmet princess Leia wore in Return of the Jedi 🚀
It strongly resembles it, it had to be deliberate. Especially when Kira pulls Leia's trick in the DS9 finale.
I read that scriptwriting took inspiration from rebels battle suite used on cold Hoth planet.
Apparently it's from some not very well known sci-fi show in the early 70s. So Star Trek wasn't ripping off Star Wars, they both were ripping off something obscure from even earlier. Same explanation for the comic characters Swamp Thing and Man Thing (came out the same month, both based on obscure character "The Heap" from 15 years earlier).
No idea what the deal is with the 2 Dennis The Menace that came out in the US and the UK at the same time.
The Breen do look a lot like the Ubese......I wonder if their biology and/or back story is similar?
The Breen were initially an improvised low-budget creation. The production people didn't want to bother designing new aliens, new makeup and prosthetics, etc ... and they only needed one or two for the first Breen episodes ... so they repurposed old props and wardrobes, quickly put together half-assed costume which completely covered the performers. Surprisingly popular with fans so they got a lot more detail (yet carefully didn't get much specific detail) in later appearances.
Not be the actual headgear prop worn in Star Wars, but definitely drew influence from it.
Klingons: "We will destroy you for honor and glory!"
Breen: "Nope." *Activates Dampener* "Enjoy your slow death as your life support systems fail. We'll salvage your ships later."
Klingons: "That... that's not honorable at all."
Breen: "Honor doesn't win battles. Defeating your enemies does."
Fair fights are for suckers - some Breen commander at some point probably
"If you find yourself in a fair fight, your tactics suck."
-- John Steinbeck
god imagine a star trek show written around a breen/klingon conflict that pulls in the federation
@@sc149 Admiral Quinn: "Guys, let's sit this one out. Somebody call the galley and tell them to make some popcorn."
Klingons '' THATS NOT HONOURABLE''!!
Breen'' And cloak is?''
I like how when Kira approached some Jem'Hadar while disguised as a Breen, the Jem'Hadar looked scared.
@Jeff somersby I think it's because they thought she was a Breen. Maybe they're scared of the Breen.
@Jeff somersby They're.
I wanna see the *sau ce*
@@astraloutlaw6549 You solved the mystery.
@@astraloutlaw6549 The Jem'Hadar fear no one but the Founders... the Breen are given a wide berth as demanded by the Female Founder as part of their alliance agreement, therefore the Jem'Hadar obey and give a lot of freedom/clearance for their new allies.
Daft Punk was sent here by the Breen to engage in diplomatic relations, but every time they start talking, everyone in the room starts dancing.
That’s funny right there lol
They must be cursing at us for being so stupid😂
You funny
was krafwerk there!
@@dot2562I was not ready for a Kraftwerk reference under a Star Trek video. A man of culture 😂 that’s “deutsches Kulturgut” right there lol
It says a lot about the Dominion that they were able to recruit them to their side.
Prevailing theory is that the Breen we see in the Dominion prison with Worf is a high ranking Breen official who was replaced by a Founder.
@@phrophetsamgames
The character of the Dominion was self-serving and self-righteous. That characteristic fits the Breen. Like attracts like and why the Romulans and Dominion had more success interacting with the Breen than Star Fleet.
I believe the Dominion promised to give the Breen either Earth or Romulus when the war was over. I don't remember which one. I haven't watched DS9 in a while.
@@jthornt01 I believe it is Earth as Weyoun expresses his disappointment of not given control of Earth to the Female Changeling.
@@nasanodia736 Wow, Star Trek has a surprising amount of imagintively racist fans.
"My people have a saying, 'Never turn your back on a Breen.'"
I wish the Star Trek universe had continued on after the Voyager series, instead of going backward with Enterprise and Discovery. I loved the story lines in TNG and DS9 and even Voyager to an extent. I would love to see the relationship between the broken Cardassian people and the Bajorans, seemingly they both have something in common after the war. I would love to see the Bajorans finally join the Federation and maybe even the Ferengi since they had reformed their culture and laws. I would also had loved to see more dealings with species from the Delta quadrant, specifically the Viddiian, which were by far the best villains in the entire Voyager series. (We all know what the writers did to the Borg.)
Discovery went forward to 32nd century...
I never cared for Enterprise, and I never have had a netflix account so I couldn't see Discovery. Either way, I do agree that things should have been different (including the netflix exclusivity deal) after Voyager (which I personally did like). DS9 and TNG (respectively) where my favorites though.
I would LOVE to see the Vidiians having to deal with the Hirogen hunters!!
Or even the Hirogen vs the Klingons!!!
One of my biggest gripes in the whole Trekiverse, is that it always seems like it's only ever the Federation that has to deal with outside threats!! Borg invasion in TNG? Do they target the Breen? The Klingons? The Romulans? Nope, they HAVE to target the Federation! Border conflicts don't count, since there's almost always going to be border tensions and every culture deals with them, but outside threats that come from _Elsewhere_ and that don't share a border with ANY alpha quadrant species (or the [beta quadrant] Romulans) ALWAYS seem to only ever affect the Federation!! In fairness, however, I suppose it's possible that the Klingons, the Romulans, the Cardassians, etc, have all had to deal with things like The Crystalline Entity (or whatever the outside threat in question may be), but they choose not to make that information public and so our friends in the Federation just never hear of it.
Still, nothing will ever compare to that episode* where Captain Kirk find some Protomolecule residue in a Prothean ruin and needs to travel forwards in time to get help from Picard's enterprise and her crew, to stop an unknown threat from both the Protomolecule creators AND from the Reaper invasion!!!! Best Episode EVER!!!
* = It's possible that this might have been a dream that I confused with a real episode...
@@Raz.C It's not always clear, but it seems like the Federation is absolutely huge. It's questionable how canon it is, but in the 'map of the alpha quadrant' you can find online, the Federation contains a lot more planets and controls more territory than the Klingons, Romulans and Cardassians put together. The reason that Starfleet has to worry about war with these other powers is Starfleet is more like an armed NGO than an imperial military and doesn't pursue military dominance. Up until the discovery of the borg, Starfleet didn't even build "warships" - their cruisers were primarily science and humanitarian ships with combat ability as a tertiary consideration. They don't conscript anybody and only maintain enough combat-capable ships to maintain the peace.
As a result the Federation is relatively weak despite having dozens of member species and their homeworlds. Even so, it is telling that aside from the Borg and the Dominion, the traditional rival races like the Klingons, Romulans and Cardassians never considered total war against the Federation a viable option, always opting for schemes and conflicts over limited objectives, usually a planet or two. The Borg and Dominion were the only entities that the Federation (that is, from the TNG era onward) as a whole was truly threatened by. So naturally they encounter all the weird threats; they're the ones looking for them.
Incidentally I feel sure that the Reapers were at least partly inspired by the Borg and V'ger.
@@dark7element
I get what you're saying, which means that I don't think I explained my own position very well. Let me try this:
It seems like starfleet is the Earth Space Fleet, rather than the Federation Space Fleet. Sure, you find Vulcans here and there along with Andorians and Tellerites, Betazeds, etc... But they seem like token additions here and there, rather than the millions from those worlds one would expect. Instead, it seems like Earth is the only planet, humans are the only race which has millions of representatives in Star Fleet. There should be millions of people from each of the two hundred odd Federation worlds, all in Star Fleet.
If that WERE the case, then none of the stellar neighbours of the Federation would be able to compete militarily with Star Fleet or the Federation. because- everything else aside- a Galaxy Class starship or even an Intrepid class starship (not to mention the Defiant class) is more than a match for any Romulan/ Klingon/ Cardassian warship, even though these Federation vessels aren't warships (Defiant aside, but we didn't mention that anyway)...
What if the Breen homeworld is tidally locked to its star? You would have a world with a temperate light side and permanently subzero dark side.
That way their world could be both seen as a pleasant environment by aliens, and dominated by a species evolved in the bitter cold of the night side. It might even explain how there could be multiple species of Breen, with each hailing from a different region of their homeworld (not unlike the Xindi I guess).
@Jeff somersby Not necessarily, they could have eyesight like nocturnal animals and in addition sonar or something else. You don't need a lot of light to see, just enough.
@Jeff somersby Err no it doesn't! It's only DARK for 2 weeks per month! When the moon is dark to us, WHERE do you think the sun is shining on it???
@@DMSProduktions a tidally locked planet will have no sunlight ever on one side and have sunlight for full day every day of the year on the opposite side
@@Mercilessonion That is NOT what I was talking about!
What if the breen are the xindi ?
I think it could be interesting if, secretly, Breen were to turn out to be to humans what the Romulans are to Vulcans.
Maybe a "nation" of Augments, similar to Khan, that decided to keep to themselves rather than try to go for harebrained schemes or galactic domination? Would make sense. The Federation would likely genocide them all if they ever found out what exactly they are, which is why they avoid them, while they don't have such reservations about the Klingons (whom they dislike for attacking them without provocation), the Ferengi, and the Dominion.
I mean, if you lead a group of people that all have unnatural blue hair from birth, and some faction, that doesn't know about you yet, made one of its core tenets that everyone with an "unnatural" hair color violates their laws and needs to die, you'd stay the hell away from them as much as you can, and if you end up in a war with these people, you're gonna make sure that every hit on them hurts (like the Breen's attack on San Francisco) so they know not to approach you.
To be honest I just think they are the opposite of the Tholians who thrive in extreme heat climates, and frankly, it is a lot easier to heat up a place and keep it hot than cool it down which could explain the constant suits.
@@funkmantim2661 That's surprisingly inaccurate. Though there are a lot of factors involved, It generally takes more energy to heat a space up than to cool it down.
(I just looked it up: www.quora.com/Which-wastes-more-energy-air-conditioner-or-heater )
In an episode of DS9, I recall Weyoun describing the Breen home world as being green, lush and warm which made him wonder why they wear refrigeration suits.
That is if Weyoun was telling the truth. He was having one of his traditional passive aggressive conversations with Damar at the time.
Looks like it was just a superior species complex.
I actually really enjoy the enigmatic nature of the Breen.
That is just lazy screen writing. They didn't know what to do with them. Like Jar Jar and his mystery box.
Not anymore
Tbh, I kinda like that they are the mystery men of Trek---altho that ammonia-based thing is interesting.
Except we know two people who have seen them. Gul Dukat And Kira. When they rescued Gul Dukat daughter.
There’s no guarantee. A source I read said they might wear suits underneath to protect them in the event of a suit breach
The Breen are one my favorite species BECAUSE of their enigmatic nature. The mysteries surrounding them are compelling and engaging. This episode must have been difficult to compose, but it was well worth it. Well done!
Agreed. There is a habit of people wanting to know everything, but I think it takes away so much of the mystery. Not knowing every single detail makes them so much more interesting, they are definitely one of my faves, along with Andorians. Less really is more sometimes
Sadly the enigma has been revealed.
"In order to be true to our nature, and our destiny, we must aspire to greater things. We have outgrown our cradle. It is futile to cry for mother's milk, when our true sustenance awaits us among the stars. " -Breen
In DS9 it is specially stated that the Breen homeworld is of typical human tempratures. Which is then further mentioned as to the mystery of the Breen's refrigeration suits
Yes Weyoun tells Damar this
I hear their home world is quite pleasant.
Or was it their home world? We can never truly know.
Yeah and that poisoned drink for ducat was "quite toxic"
I think our measurement of "quite pleasant" isn´t the same as Weyouns, maybe.
Yeah but I think their natural habitat is still on the temperate side, so he would still know what a normal humanoid would find comfortable. They may have no sense of aesthetics, but that's not quite an aesthetic property, it's more of a statistic and they should be great at statistics, I would assume as it would aid in their functions as dominion dignitaries.
"I hear their home world is quite pleasant." Perhaps, but I wouldn't count on much of a cafe culture.
The strange ship that the NX-01 encounters in "Fight or Flight" may be a Breen ship. Its appearance and behavior are more or less consistent.
Also, as at least one other person pointed out, it's implied that the Founders may have replaced a Breen, which suggests... something?
A Founder tricking the Breen into the war makes sense, since the Breen don't seem like the types to involve themselves in other group's wars. Although, they did want Earth for some reason.
Yeah, I noticed that too. The brain-sucking aliens.
i love the beta canon explination for all the weirdness and conflicting facts: that the Breen are multiple species part of a group that took the federations 'we are all one' to such an extreme that they wear the armor so that no one discriminates even accidentally.
No, they just have a superior species complex to never see inferior species face to face. iscovery is showing the Breen in all their glory now, also they do bleed
*IF SHE’S BREEN, SHE’S A THOUGHT*
Be gone thought
@@Echo_Reyes Dont worry, not much thinking around here.
It's not "thought", it's THOT; and it stands for "That Ho Over There". It's a sexist slur coined by incels and used by misogynists.
There's your Interwebz trivia for the day.
@@JanetStarChild r/whoosh
@@JanetStarChild Based liberal nonsense. Dumb slur though.
The Breen are the Valakians who remained after Archer and Phlox did passive genocide on their species... Chuck Sonnenburg's best fan theory.
I hated that episode they caused extinction of a species just becouse another one might emerge if they are dead.
I love that theory. Would show how fucked up StarFleet philosophy sometimes is.
I subscribe to that theory myself. Beautifully karmic.
Long live SFDebris
Since we're on the subject of Enterprise, I'll put forth the idea that they're Kreetassans who decided that showing your face is offensive.
The Breen seem to be the exact opposite of the Tholians apart from the mystery surrounding both species.
My favourite part was when Leia disguised herself as a Breen and rescued Han Solo
"The Breen isn't a race...it's a creed"
@Josh M He's making a reference to the Mandalorian
He's right. There is no Breen species. It's made up of multiple member races.
They probably avoid the Federation because Humans keep telling them to BE GONE. :P
It's the other way around... people are weary of such a mysterious and powerful race. The THOTS tell others to be gone
I thought that in "what you leave behind" Wayoun said the the Breen home planet was quite pleasant?
That is assuming he saw reports on the correct planet and the Breen weren't able to keep Dominion Intelligence away from their real homeworld
@@weldonwin there was breen imprisoned with bashire, worf, martok and garack, it is possible that he was replaced from their world, maybe high political leader? a love those speculation :-D
@@weldonwin dont forget wayouns overall behaviour that can give hitns at what he defines as "quite pleasant".
I mean remember that poisoned drink? what was his reaction to something extremly poisonous?
"thats quite toxic, isnt it?"
So .... for me personally that means "quite pleasant" could still mean a sub zero Planet if you can follow my way of thinking here.
@@kaitan4160 Yes. Also, Vorta have no sense of aesthetics, the Founders didn't deem it necessary that they had one.
Weyoun went to the breen home world that's why he told damar the temperature was quite comfortable
It could be that the Breen are " Humans" and other species that we already know about that just didn't want to be part of the federation. That would explain why they don't have any dealings with them.
Real human Breeing
That would make sense, not all humans want to stay in the egalitarian society of the Federation.
The entire race is made up of Neil Breen clones. That's why they call themselves the Breen. Twisted pair is technically a Star Trek spin-off because it stars two of the clones facing off!
All them dead Breens floating around and no one thought to pick some up for study? Pretty simple to keep them in refrigeration for poking and prodding. Federation is lacking...
Klingons beamed them all up first, probably to stuff ane mount above their heartha back home.
In some sources the Breen suits are fitted with self-destructs, explosives, corrosives, or toxins which make recovering their bodies a fatal mistake.
Maybe their bodies dissolve when they die, like how a Changeling turns to ash, basically.
@@Paulafan5 I agree. There is the episode where Kira and Dukat rescue his daughter from the Breen, and they both wear Breen suits they steal from them. Somehow they forgot to check what Breen look like inside the suits LOL. Their bodies must dissolve somehow, maybe natural decay like Changelings or maybe the suit itself uses acid or another substance to dissolve the body quickly and keep the Breen secrecy.
I thought their homeworld was temperate. Weyoun mentions this to Damar after a trip back from there, who then asks what the refrigeration suits were for to which Weyoun cannot answer. Also odd that neither Kira nor Dukat reported on what they look like after they took two Breen suits when rescuing his daughter.
*was curious about that one as well...perhaps it's best no one actually knows or remembers what they look like if given the opportunity to do so*
@@scottmantooth8785 apparently there are several Breen species. one requires refrig suits and the soldier Breen are of a race that melts when you kill them.
The point that Kira and Dukat never mentioning what the Breen look like is why some say that the Breen are of a makeup that would literally evaporate when exposed to temperatures that are "normal" for other humanoids (so the specific Breen in question may have evaporated quickly enough once their suits were removed that Kira and Dukat never had the chance to get a good look at them).
Or maybe they found extra suits
The big question is: how did the Federation not get a single body to study when the Breen attacked Earth?
Plot Twist: The Breen are actually just sentient tribbles.
Well, no wonder the Klingons are so terrified of them!
Technically no one “in” the Federation has seen a Breen but Kira Nerys has seen some form of Breen, twice.
Technically, Kira and Bashir only saw Breen suit interiors. It's implied that these suits previously had Breen occupants, but not explicitly stated and not strictly required.
@@pwnmeisterage This, seeing how secretive the Breen are, if they don't just explode/melt like suggested without the suit, i could totally see them having implants that turn their bodies into unrecognizable remains the moment they die or their suit is forcibly removed, making sure nobody ever sees an intact Breen or can use their bodies for say... the creation of bioweapons against them.
@@_Muzolf there is the theory that hey are ammonia-based lifeforms, and those refrigeration suits are so they dont die. there was another that a breen is made up from corpses and dead tissue from other species that were reanimated.
I love SF Debris theory that the Breen are the remnants of the people Doctor Phlox let die in that horrible Enterprise episode.
would explain why they don't care much for the federation
I've not only seen a Breen I've seen THE ultimate Breen. The mighty Neil Breen!
So you're covering the Breen, at long last!
The Breen we see could be advanced androids too, and the low temperatures is for superconductors and the like.
Im glad that not even Star Trek Online revealed how they look like beneath the mask. Sometimes a mystery worth more than a thousand pictures.
Yeah, abouth that, you don't want to see ST Discovery if you want to still in the Breen like that
I for one, always subscribed to the theory that the Breen are the descendants of the Valakians, the aliens that Archer and Phlox refused to cure. It would be so wonderfully karmic.
Also don't forget about The Breen's/Hutt's trade interactions. Thermo detonators make a whole lot more sense now . Jabba's kind of scum.
Howard Howard Startrek is different from Star Wars....isn’t it?...
So I’ve been rewatching DS9 recently and this throwaway line from season 7 has been bothering me. It’s stated that no one has ever seen one without their suit, but Dukat and Kira incapacitate a pair when they go to rescue Zial and use their suits as disguises to infiltrate the Breen compound. Then at the end of the show Kira does it again on Cardassia. Presumably Kira would have seen what they looked like underneath while she stripped one for his suit right?
Perhaps it was so hideous she doesn't even want to remember it, let alone describe it to others 🤔
My theory is that they likely have a suit that protects them from the environment around them, and then a second, combat suit that is layered on top of or attached on the previous one.
Exactly. Surely Kira would have reported what she saw. Especially, as she later became a Federation officer.
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in DS9 Damar and Weyoun talked about the Breen homeworld. Weyoun said it was actual quite comfortable for most living things contrary to reports. unless they evolved from a very tiny region of that planet where its very cold, it just adds even more mystery to them
Weyoun may also have been lying or been misinformed. Also, the Breen encounter suits and technology may have been developed to survive their planet getting ravaged by a radical change in climate... which other species outside of their own consider pleasant. The lack of information makes just about all theories viable.
You forgot about the one Breen that was captive with Martok, Tain, and Dr. Bashir, plus a Romulan female, when Garak and Worf were captured by the dominion. That breen helped ot with the escape plan.
Wasn't there a theory that The Breen were a snouted species hence the shape of the helmet?
Yeah, I also heard they were based on wolves initially. But that bit seems lost to most of the fanbase
Per voyager's Tuvok: they apparently have organic ships like species 8472 although probably a conglomerate of organic material and technology
They're actually bounty hunters from a galaxy far far away.
Guys, they're just Carrie Fisher in a suit, smh
That similarity was what probably drawn me to them back in the day.
All I can think when seeing them is "you are suffering from hibernation sickness"
Actually Patricia Tallman in a suit, more often than not.
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Why so much hate?
@@JanetStarChild No hate, just a harmless joke :)
Ah, that NX01 class! Underrated timeless classic.
Their appearance in Lower Decks just raised a potential lore mine for one of the characters. Melee oriented Jack Ransom immediately went for his phaser mere seconds in his encounter with them (didn't even try to do his usual punch attacks) which hints he faced against the Breen in the Dominion War.
I'm pretty sure almost every officer on the Cerritos served in some capacity during the Dominion war. We know Mariner was on DS9.
@@noabsolutelynot3660 oh definitely but compared to Mariner's self destructive - suicidal tendencies, Ransom's Breen PTSD is very out of left field so it hints the Breen got to him pretty hard for him to not even attempt his usual attack patterns (barehanded melee).
Given that Kira wears a Breen suit on Cardassia during the final days of the Dominion war, it's very likely she knows what a Breen looks like, unless she just found the suit empty somewhere.
I like to think the suits (or the Breen themselves) are outfitted with a device that vaporizes the body within moments of death. They don't destroy the suit, though, because they know it's *much* creepier to kill a Breen and take the helmet off, only to find that there's nothing there.
Because of the refrigeration suites, i honestly thought they were some kind of mechanical life form or elemental like the Tholians but water or air.
Shady shifty and devious. Of course the Cardassians have an embassy on Breen, they are kindred spirits.
Perhaps the Breen homeworld is tidally locked?
That would resolve the seemingly contradictory statements of Weyoun and Demar. Depending on it's position in it's orbit, a tidally locked planet would have both a completely ice ball side as well as a habitable zone of temperate land.
I love this theory, it's quite possible!
The books did a fantastic job exploring the Breen Confederacy; also their energy dampening weapon DIDN'T affect Klingons...that was the whole reason the Klingons were pushed to the forefront during the war.
Partially correct. At the first conflict the weapon effected all but ONE Klingon ship, apparently they had a Klingon version of Jordi Õ_Õ onboard that had modified the ship making the ship (accidentally?) Immune to the breen weapon. The rest of the Klingon fleet was decimated at that battle. However after that first battle the Klingon fleet that had remained behind and all newly made Klingon ships were able to be rapidly modified in the same manor as that sole surviving Klingon ship making them immune to the effects as well. That lead to them being pushed to the forefront because the federation and romulans took longer to adapt the Klingon modifications to their respective tech. But they all managed to make the modifications after some time and at that point the weapon was rendered totally useless against everyone.
Some people don't want to be friends anymore than they want to be enemies.
They just want to be left alone.
All I know about the Breen is what's in the expanded universe novels, in those books there are multiple species in the Confederacy in which they all wear the suits in order to completely eliminate racism because you can't tell the race of whoever you're talking to, they are all Breen regardless of species.
This is the way.
We are the breen lower your shields and power down your weapons....
That`s why I don`t like expanded universes. The assumption like this could be done by 9 y.o. boy
Wish Star Trek did more episodes involving the Breen.
They were a great addition to the Star Trek franchise!
Well, the world "Breen" is also a shade of Brown with hint of Green. Look at Breen Colors. A lot of tans, browns, and greens.
Like Neil Breen
I remember a episode where they talk about the home world being a Paradise planet and that it's peculiar that they wear refrigeration units for some reason
Would the Borg bother to assimilate the Breen....🤔
How would that even work?
*they may not be able to do so...if anything they would be more interested in their technology than what passes for their biology as mentioned on a reddit commentary thread*
Their technology and their ships, yes. Their encounter suits, yes. Their entire biologies would most likely be converted to technology covering the skeleton, the skeleton the only solid and stable part of their biology, and only assimilating their brain long enough to absorb the information before converting that into a brainlike processor. So... more absorb than assimilate.
What would be funny if the the Breen-s habitual extreme caution and acting mysterious lead to the Borg barely even being aware of their existence. I can imagine the borgs attempt to gather info and assimilate some Breen like this.
Borg cube enters Breen space - Never to return, collective never learns what happened to it.
Attempted capture of Breen ships by the borg in neutral territories. - After the fifth time the breen ship being captured just exploded before anything could be learned from it, the collective stopped trying.
Attempted assimilation of captured Breen from third party. - Biological discintiveness lost to suspected self destruct implant that turned the Bleens body into unrecognizable degraded biomass. Cold suit provided no useful new technology or insight for the collective.
Attempted information gathering and summary based on own experiences and data assimilated from others. - Precious little information recovered, files mysteriously lost from the collectives data net shortly after, including own records of previous encounters. Breens very existence dismissed as myth created by some of the assimilated species by the collective. Breen territory is now marked on the collectives starmaps, as one giant navigational hazard to be avoided by Borg ships in the future.
The Breen are just the Ubese, Star Trek takes place in the Unknown Regions. Star Wars and Star Trek are the same universe confirmed.
Are the Breen fond of Thermal Detonators?
Were well made Video over the enigmatic breen. Thank you Rick. *gives a double thumb up* LG Ferina
wait the breen homeworld isnt frozen, ds9 episode changing the face of evil it was discovered their homeworld was a temperate climent much like earth
Weyoun could have just been trolling Damar.
@@RRW359 true but we never know, as he puts it "im always serous"
If I'm not mistaken, he said it wasn't a frozen wasteland but much more amiable, but that doesn't stop it from being cold, so while our perception may be that's -100C, it may very well be, by that statement, -30C or something like that
*climate
Could be the Breen were decieving everyone on what planet is their home world. If your worried about someone having a fleet drop out of warp as close as possible to the planet and nuking it wouldn't it be better to tell everyone the center of your government is a minor colony you don't care about instead of the actual home world?
It's funny how the breen and princess Leias boushh helmet look so alike
Such a cool species... no pun intended... wish to learn more about them
The Breen are probably my favorite species in Star Trek, if my avatar didn't make it clear enough. Cool design, awesome looking ships and a fascinatingly mysterious culture.
It is rather interesting that back in the Dominion war, they "wanted earth".
That reinforces the Idea that they are worried about humanity/the Federation. A treath that can not be openly or indipendantly engaged, but still must be fought.
Also didn't Weyoun say that the breen Homeworld actually had a mild climate?
Breen are secretly just Human free-market capitalists, forced off Earth centuries ago. The propaganda calls them "Augments" and "Genetically Engineered Tyrants".
I thank you, Rick of in-game on your rather hmmm insightful review of The Breen. Now in all these years no one has thought of capturing a few breen and volunteering them for some experimental voyages of discovery. I'm sure ways can be thought of to allow them to keep their gelatinous state without their uniforms, therefore allowing for a more engaging inspection. LLAP 🖖
So, Princess Leia was mascarading as a Breen when confronted Jabba the Hut look 🤔
I'm
Weyoon once remarked that the Breen homeworld is not the frozen wasteland people expect it to be and that it, in fact, has a temperate climate, the Breen are perfectly capable of surviving at room temperature and that no one knows what they're really hiding under those helmets.
For the longest time, one of the rewards on Star Trek Online when you played through the Breen missions was a Breen tactical bridge officer. The character Tran actually joined your crew. I loved this, actually. having a race we hardly know about all of a sudden becoming one of the leading characters on your crew? That just screams Star Trek. Being rewarded the Breen, the Reman and the Borg Drone was not something they should have removed from the game. Now I do believe it takes is Zen to acquire the Breen or Reman bridge officers...
I understand the economics of why they may have made the change, but for gameplay and story wise, that was a poor decision. I found pure awesome anybody could get those kind of characters with just time and effort.
Thank you, Rick, for this video specifically. I use my Breen all the time on sto, made him my Intelligence Officer. :3 So I thoroughly enjoyed this video.
which mission?
@@sheilaolfieway1885 After completing the old Breen Cold War campaign, I think after completing Cold storage. You cant anymore, Breen can only be bought for 8000 Zen, now.
@@sagesheahan6732 i'd rather just have the breen outfit to be honest.
Neil before the Breen...they are masters of programmable virtual reality!
That have helped us expose national and international corruption
The Ferengi traded their moon to the "Masked Breen" for warp drive tech.
Rick, your posting are fantastic, nearly perfect information. Thank you for your hard work, I Love to watch, especially the Star Trek topics.
What about the catian’s ??
Minority species of mostly civilians or raiders. I assume you are talking about the cat-like humanoids that almost no Star Trek work mentions aside from passing, right? I'm curious too if there is more on them. A lot of people assume that the Kataan (if that is how you spell it) vessel in TNG with the games was manned by Catians (saying Kataans and the Catains [Caitans?] are the same species even though they did not at all look alike). I haven't heard clarification since I heard that debate decades ago.
One thing I like about the breen is they are still very mysterious. Which makes them naturally more scary.
I love the Borg but over explaining them made them more know and less threating.
*you never hear about the Breen Musicals do you*
"The highest ranked... 'Thot' "
How in the hell do you not say that without laughing?!?! xD
No. That would be the Domo.
@@PouchMaster did you even watch the video?
Is that Belle Delphine or Pokimane?
@@mr_h831 Yes I watched the video. Nevertheless the highest Breen rank of all is Domo. The Domo runs everything Breen.
@@PouchMaster then why did you feel the need to point that out to _me specifically_ if you knew (assuming you watched the video like you say you did) that i waz literally just quoting someone else?
Directing this comment of yours towards the someone who actually said it might have been more productive.
Kira and Dukat wore Breen suits and visors when they went to rescue (Dukat wanted to kill) Ziyal. But they didn't show what was underneath.
Dukat didn't wear one. That was Kira on Cardassian Prime when she rescued Damar and Garak from a Jem'Hadar patrol.
@@toomanyaccounts just watched the episode today, and yeah he wears a Breen fridge suit.
Great subject matter. I think the Breen, was an plot point to make DS9 more interesting like the Borg in TNG. It worked out but they were overplayed. Still a great video! What if the Breen were a former member of The Federation or mutant humans that would explain the hostility towards the Federation and particularly the Klingons?
Correction @ 5:14
The Breen ship weapons were devastatingly disruptive to the power systems of Federation and > Romulan ships
Could be a hegemony structure exacting a tribute from their worlds in exchange for protection. As for captian or Thot status could be closer to a baron or lordship where they own a symbolic territory as reward for their position and these baronies collaborate to form a lower stage of government
Thoughts?
Fascinating. Appearance aside, no one else sees the Breen at Star Trek's answer to the Mandalorians of Star Wars?
Star Trek Picard needs to address the Breen, give us some sights of the Breen without the "reefer suit"
yes and no it's kind of interesting to have an enigmatic species in it on the other hand I would like to see them
Remember what happened when Voyager tried to explain the Borg...
I'm very against that. The breen are one of the few mystery races in star trek. Over explaining can undermine them.
I like that there is an enigmatic species in Star Trek, and tbh, I hope we never find out too much about them. The mystery is much more interesting!
Klingon ships were not affected by the Breen's energy weapon.
only one ship survived the first battle.
after that the Klingons adapted their remaining ships
Hyades52 you’re right thx 👍
@@daxammight It was an old bird of prey that had an older out-dated piece of warp core equipment (forget the name of the piece of equipment) that rendered the Breen energy dissipater useless. it was then ordered that all remaining ships be outfitted with this piece of technology specifically. :)
One ship was, because all BoPs are made to order and their internals and loadout can vary wildly, depending on the House who commissioned it.
*what would the Klingon equivalent of neener, neener, neener be?*
I do enjoy your will researched information, I don't have the wear for all. You take the pleasure of being a fan to a higher level. THANKS
Last time I was this early, the CRM 114 was a radio in Dr. Strangelove.
Shoot! A fella can have a good time with a CRM!
I read once that the Breen were based on the Arctic Wolf, where on Earth they can live at -70 degrees Fahrenheit (-21 degrees Celsius) due to having two layers of fur. This explains their encounter suit helmet looking like a snout.
Could you do a Cultural Index on either.
THE SHADOWS from Babylon 5.
Or
THE DREJ from Titan A.E.
Respect dude 😃👍🏻.
No on Neil Breen the superior Breeing
Would love to have a speculation video on the intergalactic genocidal Synth Federation. And why they specifically hate organic lifeforms only.
didnt mention they are led by the teaching of their messiah "Neil"
though his visual tomes are just as unintelligible as the rest of the breens thoughts and language :P
Weyoun said told Damar the the climate on the Breen Home world is exually pretty comfortable and not a cold waste land. (DS9 s7)
Rule 1:Don't turn your back on a Breen.
Rule 2:Read Rule 1.
So, Mr..Freeze could live among the Breen.
But I have a flamethrower installed in my butt. They come after me, my farts will melt them.
@@jetfowl if these people are frozen in their suits , just Jack up the heat and make them uncomfortable.
*do the Breen Even Have Backs?*
You should write a novel. With your vast knowledge you could probably weave a fantastic story encompassing the less known races of the startrek universe.
Or make 5 magical independent films
1 view, 7 likes?
al qu TH-cam algorithm rigged
Yeah. And?
The disruptor model 'CRM-114' is a little reference to the CRM-114 discriminator from Dr. Strangelove: Or How I Learned To Stop Worrying And Love The Bomb.
This species also loves making really bad movies .
Can you come back from vacation? We miss you hawk boy !
Why the fuck are you everywhere.
If you really want to know about the Breen read the three book series Prey. You will learn more about the Breen from those books than you will anyplace else. It is also one of my favorite Star Trek novel series.