I also found out that you can remove the bottom plate to allow you to engrave on any size item. (Doesn't change engraveable area, but allows you to engrave on larger items than will fit in the enclosure. They also just released an add on thay drops down the rotary to allow you to engrave on larger items with the rotary. And the work table that also fits on the 'nubbins' so they are referenced to the same place all the time, and has holes to put work holders for batching out things in the same location all the time. While I just got mine today and haven't been able to use yet, I'm excited that even in the time since i placed my preorder and it arrived, they've released updates and add ons. I hope it speaks to the conpany and that they will continue to support and improve the machine!
Can this machine etch a full wrap 40oz Stanley type tumbler? I have had my eye on this laser for a long time, but now I'm torn between this and the We Create enclosed laser.
I am with you totally on this machine over the xTool S1, but my issue is that I am not someone whose going to be doing a lot of wood working and cutting and engraving on wood, but want the capability should i need it. I want to do more engraving/marking on soft metals. The LaserMatic doesn't have the option to install a 1064nm Infrared Laser Module like the xTool S1. That expandability really pushes me to towards the S1. How much different or better is the 10w on the LawerMatic vs the IR infrared that you can get with the S1.
Thank's for the review if I didn't already have the Lasermatic 10 I would buy one today. The Lasermatic works so well for me that I haven't found a need for the 20 or 30 Watt unit and with three lasers in the shop I don't have the room. P.S. That front bar is suppose to be removed and is used just for shipping. Removing it makes it much easier to get the bed in and out.
Awesome review! You crack me up! I currently have an Ortur LM3. One thing i hate about it is framing up small items. Using a low power and the fire button is my go to, but sometimes even low power makes a mark. Wish diodes were like a CO2 and had a smaller laser head so you could see your project/location easier.
One thing I don't see being talked about on The roly Automation is Spot size. lasermatic spot size for the 20w laser is 0.24 x 0.12 ,But wecreat 20w is 0.08*0.10 mm ,and x tool is even smaller at 0.08*0.06 mm. Would this larger spot size on the lasermatic affect engraving quality ? Reply
I am very impressed with this.........why oh why wasn't it out and talked about last year when I purchased my x-tool!!! The price, are you kidding me!!! I am sooooooooo jealous!!! Now need to figure out how to get one!!! I am taking my business in this new direction and I love to laser!!!
I had two. The first one arrived dead and would not turn on, so I sent it back. I received my second laser, and it turns on, but the laser keeps making loud noises (crunching sounds) and bangs against the housing when sent to home. The laser goes toward the front instead of the back of the unit. The camera can’t be calibrated due to too much noise. Also, the USB stick, which contains all the firmware update files, Win & Mac drivers, and LightBurn software, is full of viruses. I packed the unit up and sent videos and photos to support. They are telling me these issues can be fixed and advised me to do a Zoom call with them. I am hoping they can explain via email how to fix the problem. I am waiting for support to get back to me; otherwise, I will send it back. If decide to send the laser back may go with WeCreat, they came out with a 40watt. WeCreat is all plug and play. I was hoping LaserMatic was plug and play but it is pain what I been through. I will update my status.
I think @gerardpampani thinks about the 3D Curving the s1 can do. Like if you dont have a flat object and the s1 can focus on the different hight of thr object.
Thinking about getting one myself, would this be able to engrave on leather patches without any problems? And would it be best to use 10W or 20W to engrave?
@@fruitloops68 They recommend giving LightBurn a try but LaserGRBL is a good free alternative. Roly does not have its own software. I myself use Ligtburn and love it.
The shipping brace at the front needs to be removed in order to keep the laser from hitting it in zero position. Everything in the housing is a tight fit, at least on the 30w. Finding space for fire sensors was difficult.
Hey I’m just a bit curious based on the date that this was uploaded if you were also comparing this to the xTool S1 as well when you said that this beats all other diode lasers? I’ve been seriously considering upgrading my laser and have been looking at roughly three different ones (xTool S1, LaserMATIC Mk2, and WeCreat Vision). I like the features of all three but I’m stuck between the S1 and the Mk2 because I like them more and if they were in one laser I’d be on it in a flash.
get the MK2 man it is seriously the best one in the diode industry, xtool is a good machine but look into reviews and you will see issues, most importantly xtool s1 doesnt have a camera, and the mk2 has a highly accurate camera my grandfather has the 30w and i have a ortur lasermaster 3 and im already saving up for the mk2,
@@BuildDadBuild What makes you say that... got give more than that it's just garbage. I will say that the build of the Roly seems better, being that the case of xTool S1 is a hard plastic.
What about safety features? I don't think I heard you mention any and didn't see any mentioned on their website. Does this unit have fire detection or auto shut off features like the xTool S1?
@@828CreativeDesigns that’s great! Looking at this laser or Omtech polar, or omtech 60w co2. I can’t make my mind up. Lol. Looking to start a small business and want the speed and flexibility of the laser. Really looking to save time on engraving and burnouts.
Hey there, great review! I've been interested in this engraver and even have a pending pre-order. However, I'm still torn between this and the Xtool S1 40W. Yes, the S1 is more expensive, but for about $2,200, I can get the S1 with the riser, radial engraver, and conveyor system. I've found hundreds of videos on the S1 discussing its pros and cons, but only a handful of people are praising this engraver, claiming it has zero flaws. What really sets this engraver apart from the S1? Why should I choose this one over the S1?
It’s just better in every way. XTool has flooded the influencer market with the S1, that’s why you see it more. This laser was built by engineers that actually LISTENED to the people that use their machines.
This video has hands down persuaded me to buy this as my first laser! Does that rotary tool allow you to set the angle for pint glasses without additional shims underneath?
The WeCreat Vision is pretty worthless in comparison. The WeCreat Vision has a very narrow customer target. They are targeting folks that want a laser, but don't want to take the time to learn how to use it.
I saw your review on the WeCreat (and your inclusion in their ads). I've been seriously considering replacing my open frame lasers with it. Now you love this one. Can you do a comparison, or simply let us know why the one over the other?
design looks great with enclosure+ other cool features, wish more companies did stuff like that and also increased the bed size a little to 550mX550m, i usually make 500mm items and hard to find diode lasers with that bed size. bought atomstack x30pro with e85 extender but man i hate that laser. feels janky unlike my xtool.
I literally just received my LaserMatic Mrk2 30 watt today... Hope to be able to get time tomorrow or the day after to unpack, set up, and learn how to use ... Then I can engrave my tumblers and brumates to have sayings on!
@@BuildDadBuildso I keep hearing about the fan, that it stays on at all times. Have they fixed that issue with a software update or will that be fixed on the newer models.
@@BuildDadBuild I cant wait for it to show up , I have been working with a ortur laser master 2 that constantly needs adjustments. It was a good machine 5 years ago. Love your videos you make me laugh
I get the impression you might like this machine ? LOL. From other reviews I have seen the USB only needs to be connected until you set up WiFi then it can be removed so its placement is not really an Issue,You did keep me in suspense waiting for you to remove the shipping brace across the front or was that a subliminal reason to keep us watching to the end ;)
It may be enjoyable to use, but if their published specs on the laser are correct, yikes. The laser spot size is relatively HUGE compared to most other manufacturer's models - which makes the effective power applied at the surface of the work extremely small. Less than 500 watts per square millimeter. Compared, to say...the xTool S1 20 Watt is over 10x as powerful at 5300 watts per square millimeter, and a much better ability for better engraving resolution. Even the older xTool D1 laser modules blow this one out of the water. The xTool D1 10W is over 2600 watts per square milimeter.
Not to burst your science bubble Chris, but I tested the power of the 20W LaserMATIC (well used) vs the 20W xTool (brand new), and the LaserMATIC produced 20-21 continuous watts of optical output, while the brand new xTool 20W put out 18.5 to 19.5 watts. This test was done with a FieldBest power meter with the same exact parameters. The 40W S1 vs the LaserMATIC 30W only had 13% more power, when in theory, it should have had 25% more. I'll have to agree to disagree! Field testing trumps didactic jargon. xTool doesn't even compare to Roly Automation, in so many ways... precision, support and opensource Gcode being the most important.
@@TheLouisianaHobbyGuy You completely missed the point. The Lasermatic has a MASSIVE dot: 0.24x0.12 mm at 20W and 0.35x0.22 mm (!!!) at 30W, while the xTool S1 has 0.08x0.06 mm at 20W and only 0.08*0.10 mm at 40W, so the "superior" power is spread over about a 6 to 8 times larger area.
crap. You would totally sold me on this and I was ready to buy it and I was going to tell you in the comments but I had to use a different browser and when I switched over it played a video for the new X tool and it makes it look like I have to try to find the center of everything with the ruler and a pencil on this machine and the X tool was made for lazy people like me. I guess I'll just wait forever and not buy one like I have done for the last 12 years.
Nice work man! I really need to get my hands on this laser, it looks great! Glad to see another video from yoU!
Hey, thanks!
I also found out that you can remove the bottom plate to allow you to engrave on any size item. (Doesn't change engraveable area, but allows you to engrave on larger items than will fit in the enclosure.
They also just released an add on thay drops down the rotary to allow you to engrave on larger items with the rotary.
And the work table that also fits on the 'nubbins' so they are referenced to the same place all the time, and has holes to put work holders for batching out things in the same location all the time.
While I just got mine today and haven't been able to use yet, I'm excited that even in the time since i placed my preorder and it arrived, they've released updates and add ons.
I hope it speaks to the conpany and that they will continue to support and improve the machine!
if you only cut baltic birch 3mm and some engraving, do you really need the 20W or should the 10W do just fine?
Nope. 10W should do nicely. 20W will only do it a little faster.
@@BuildDadBuild thank you!!
Can this machine etch a full wrap 40oz Stanley type tumbler? I have had my eye on this laser for a long time, but now I'm torn between this and the We Create enclosed laser.
Yes it can. This is hands down a better machine than the WeCreat. I’ve reviewed them both. And this one stands far above!
i have another question. When you buy this machine, does it come with the Light Burn license, or do you have to buy that separately?
Lightburn is always a separate purchase.
@builddadbuild how would you engrave a golf club? just a rotary attachment doesnt seem right ?
Just do it flat. Might have to split focus to get your edges but it should still do it.
I am with you totally on this machine over the xTool S1, but my issue is that I am not someone whose going to be doing a lot of wood working and cutting and engraving on wood, but want the capability should i need it. I want to do more engraving/marking on soft metals. The LaserMatic doesn't have the option to install a 1064nm Infrared Laser Module like the xTool S1. That expandability really pushes me to towards the S1. How much different or better is the 10w on the LawerMatic vs the IR infrared that you can get with the S1.
The IR head is garbage...
If you want to engrave metal, look into a fiber laser.
@ i was afraid you’d say that.. haha.
Thank's for the review if I didn't already have the Lasermatic 10 I would buy one today. The Lasermatic works so well for me that I haven't found a need for the 20 or 30 Watt unit and with three lasers in the shop I don't have the room.
P.S. That front bar is suppose to be removed and is used just for shipping. Removing it makes it much easier to get the bed in and out.
Are you sure about that, cause every video review of this machine still has that bar across.
Awesome review! You crack me up! I currently have an Ortur LM3. One thing i hate about it is framing up small items. Using a low power and the fire button is my go to, but sometimes even low power makes a mark. Wish diodes were like a CO2 and had a smaller laser head so you could see your project/location easier.
One thing I don't see being talked about on The roly Automation is Spot size. lasermatic spot size for the 20w laser is 0.24 x 0.12 ,But wecreat 20w is 0.08*0.10 mm ,and x tool is even smaller at 0.08*0.06 mm. Would this larger spot size on the lasermatic affect engraving quality ?
Reply
I haven’t had any issue with it.
Does this engrave glass? Do you have a video for that?
Diodes can’t engrave glass without a transfer agent.
I leave the rotary plugged into the circuit board all the time and just plug it into the rotary when needed.
That's exactly what I thought straight away lol
I am very impressed with this.........why oh why wasn't it out and talked about last year when I purchased my x-tool!!! The price, are you kidding me!!! I am sooooooooo jealous!!! Now need to figure out how to get one!!! I am taking my business in this new direction and I love to laser!!!
how does this compare to the xTool S1 and the M1 Ultra?
The LaserMatic is hands down better in almost every way.
I had two. The first one arrived dead and would not turn on, so I sent it back. I received my second laser, and it turns on, but the laser keeps making loud noises (crunching sounds) and bangs against the housing when sent to home. The laser goes toward the front instead of the back of the unit. The camera can’t be calibrated due to too much noise. Also, the USB stick, which contains all the firmware update files, Win & Mac drivers, and LightBurn software, is full of viruses. I packed the unit up and sent videos and photos to support. They are telling me these issues can be fixed and advised me to do a Zoom call with them. I am hoping they can explain via email how to fix the problem. I am waiting for support to get back to me; otherwise, I will send it back.
If decide to send the laser back may go with WeCreat, they came out with a 40watt. WeCreat is all plug and play. I was hoping LaserMatic was plug and play but it is pain what I been through. I will update my status.
Can this do curved objects or are we still limited to xtool?
All lasers can do curved objects
I think @gerardpampani thinks about the 3D Curving the s1 can do. Like if you dont have a flat object and the s1 can focus on the different hight of thr object.
Gotcha. I think that’s the only diode that does it. In my experience it’s somewhat of a gimmick. I’d go co2 with a larger lens.
Thinking about getting one myself, would this be able to engrave on leather patches without any problems? And would it be best to use 10W or 20W to engrave?
I’d go with the LaserMatic from Roly. Better machine IMO
rolyautomation.com/zjvh81
Good review. I am also very happy with my Roly Lasermatic MK2 20w
Do you have to use Lightburn, or do they have their own software?
@@fruitloops68 They recommend giving LightBurn a try but LaserGRBL is a good free alternative. Roly does not have its own software. I myself use Ligtburn and love it.
there is legs for the machine so you can put the compressor underneath. you can also take bar off on the front for ease of access to the bed
The shipping brace at the front needs to be removed in order to keep the laser from hitting it in zero position. Everything in the housing is a tight fit, at least on the 30w. Finding space for fire sensors was difficult.
*Fun video Nick!* _Welcome to the LaserMATIC family cupcake!_ 🤪
thanks brother for the review. Got the XW 20W coming in a few days!!!!!!
How do you like it? What have you done with it
Hey I’m just a bit curious based on the date that this was uploaded if you were also comparing this to the xTool S1 as well when you said that this beats all other diode lasers? I’ve been seriously considering upgrading my laser and have been looking at roughly three different ones (xTool S1, LaserMATIC Mk2, and WeCreat Vision). I like the features of all three but I’m stuck between the S1 and the Mk2 because I like them more and if they were in one laser I’d be on it in a flash.
This S1 is garbage in comparison.
get the MK2 man it is seriously the best one in the diode industry, xtool is a good machine but look into reviews and you will see issues, most importantly xtool s1 doesnt have a camera, and the mk2 has a highly accurate camera my grandfather has the 30w and i have a ortur lasermaster 3 and im already saving up for the mk2,
@@BuildDadBuild What makes you say that... got give more than that it's just garbage. I will say that the build of the Roly seems better, being that the case of xTool S1 is a hard plastic.
@ construction. Build materials. Support. Aesthetics.
What about safety features? I don't think I heard you mention any and didn't see any mentioned on their website. Does this unit have fire detection or auto shut off features like the xTool S1?
Fire detection is a joke and doesn’t work. Most people turn it off.
Still working with my ortur laser master pro 2 ...love to upgrade but I might go with a 3d printer first
Go for it!
Watched all the videos and came to the same conclusion, this is the only diode to buy at this point. I pre-ordered a 20 watt.
Does this laser use the Gcode version of lightburn?
Yes
Thank you for this review! Mine is coming in a few days - very anxious to get started!!
How do you like it if you’ve gotten it set up yet? Lol
@@Bonsai_44 I love it! I'm new to lasering (is that a word? lol) but I really like it.
@@828CreativeDesigns that’s great! Looking at this laser or Omtech polar, or omtech 60w co2. I can’t make my mind up. Lol. Looking to start a small business and want the speed and flexibility of the laser. Really looking to save time on engraving and burnouts.
Any experience with the Sainsmart L8? Looks pretty similar.
No. Not a huge fan of their products...
Many have put risers on the legs to raise up the laser itself. Then the air assist and the rotary can sit under the unit.
Hey there, great review! I've been interested in this engraver and even have a pending pre-order. However, I'm still torn between this and the Xtool S1 40W. Yes, the S1 is more expensive, but for about $2,200, I can get the S1 with the riser, radial engraver, and conveyor system.
I've found hundreds of videos on the S1 discussing its pros and cons, but only a handful of people are praising this engraver, claiming it has zero flaws. What really sets this engraver apart from the S1? Why should I choose this one over the S1?
It’s just better in every way. XTool has flooded the influencer market with the S1, that’s why you see it more. This laser was built by engineers that actually LISTENED to the people that use their machines.
Best review by far ! Congratulations!
This video has hands down persuaded me to buy this as my first laser! Does that rotary tool allow you to set the angle for pint glasses without additional shims underneath?
yes it does.
Ya, me too. I am going to buy this laser machine. Glad i stumbled across this video. The S1 framing is plastic, that bothers me for the price.
They are releasing an extra wide version in a couple months as well!
Head to head how does this unit compare to the Wecreat Vision?
The WeCreat Vision is pretty worthless in comparison.
The WeCreat Vision has a very narrow customer target. They are targeting folks that want a laser, but don't want to take the time to learn how to use it.
I saw your review on the WeCreat (and your inclusion in their ads). I've been seriously considering replacing my open frame lasers with it. Now you love this one. Can you do a comparison, or simply let us know why the one over the other?
This one is better than the WeCreat in all aspects. Better build, better customer service, better software.
Great video! I have the original 10 watt model and it's amazing! I'm just waiting for the XW version to release with the larger bed.
I always mess up my first tumbler 🤣🤣
I do too. LOL Glad I'm not in the tumbler business!
design looks great with enclosure+ other cool features, wish more companies did stuff like that and also increased the bed size a little to 550mX550m, i usually make 500mm items and hard to find diode lasers with that bed size.
bought atomstack x30pro with e85 extender but man i hate that laser. feels janky unlike my xtool.
Thanks for the review! I just purchased one!
Awesome. You’re gonna love it.
leo is the man. i absolutely love my roly mk2 10/20
The front metal bar is only in there for shipping. I really like the video and the channel!
You need to remove the front support bar it allows you to access the bed
Yeah. A few folks have pointed that out. Thought it was odd there was a support there. LOL
0:33 that mug!
I really wish I drank any hot beverages as there are so many cool mugs, lol
I literally just received my LaserMatic Mrk2 30 watt today...
Hope to be able to get time tomorrow or the day after to unpack, set up, and learn how to use ...
Then I can engrave my tumblers and brumates to have sayings on!
The support is the best in the Bizzz
Look nicee the enclosure
Were did you get that shirt?!?!
I must have one!
Dammit saw at 12:52 you turn around and your logo is on the back, but not on your merch website anymore....
How many ultimate diode lasers do we have sa far. I'm guessing every single company has atleast one ultimate diode laser.
Just the one. Like I said this unit is better than ever other diode I've tested.
But I like you...you're sassy!
Good stuff man.
Appreciate it!
@@BuildDadBuildso I keep hearing about the fan, that it stays on at all times. Have they fixed that issue with a software update or will that be fixed on the newer models.
Stop telling us how great this laser machine is! I'll never be able to sell my xTool so I can buy one of these if you keep this up! 🤣
This one is worth the hype!
After 8 months, do you still feel the same about this laser ?
Yup
Hope you are right dude I just bought one !
Love it! It’s awesome!!
@@BuildDadBuild I cant wait for it to show up , I have been working with a ortur laser master 2 that constantly needs adjustments. It was a good machine 5 years ago. Love your videos you make me laugh
Thanks, homie!
I get the impression you might like this machine ? LOL. From other reviews I have seen the USB only needs to be connected until you set up WiFi then it can be removed so its placement is not really an Issue,You did keep me in suspense waiting for you to remove the shipping brace across the front or was that a subliminal reason to keep us watching to the end ;)
I have been told A LOT that I should have removed that brace. LOL
Tried to watch this video but the shaky camera work made me nauseous.
@@Simon-sf7ng you poor thing. Try Dramamine.
Take that bar out from the front of the machine.
It's only the ultimate all you will ever need blah blah until the next one comes out and it's given free to a tester to try out.
Guess you missed the first part of the video.
1. No motorised Z axis in 2024?
2. No autofocus in 2024?
3. Massive laser dot (0.35x0.22 mm at 30W) in 2024?
Colour me unimpressed.
Hi, good afternoon.
It may be enjoyable to use, but if their published specs on the laser are correct, yikes. The laser spot size is relatively HUGE compared to most other manufacturer's models - which makes the effective power applied at the surface of the work extremely small. Less than 500 watts per square millimeter. Compared, to say...the xTool S1 20 Watt is over 10x as powerful at 5300 watts per square millimeter, and a much better ability for better engraving resolution. Even the older xTool D1 laser modules blow this one out of the water. The xTool D1 10W is over 2600 watts per square milimeter.
Not to burst your science bubble Chris, but I tested the power of the 20W LaserMATIC (well used) vs the 20W xTool (brand new), and the LaserMATIC produced 20-21 continuous watts of optical output, while the brand new xTool 20W put out 18.5 to 19.5 watts. This test was done with a FieldBest power meter with the same exact parameters. The 40W S1 vs the LaserMATIC 30W only had 13% more power, when in theory, it should have had 25% more. I'll have to agree to disagree! Field testing trumps didactic jargon. xTool doesn't even compare to Roly Automation, in so many ways... precision, support and opensource Gcode being the most important.
@@TheLouisianaHobbyGuy You completely missed the point.
The Lasermatic has a MASSIVE dot: 0.24x0.12 mm at 20W and 0.35x0.22 mm (!!!) at 30W, while the xTool S1 has 0.08x0.06 mm at 20W and only 0.08*0.10 mm at 40W, so the "superior" power is spread over about a 6 to 8 times larger area.
CHOCOLATE IS A VEGETABLE.
Nice
Thank you for your review. Your enthusiasm is underwhelming.
crap. You would totally sold me on this and I was ready to buy it and I was going to tell you in the comments but I had to use a different browser and when I switched over it played a video for the new X tool and it makes it look like I have to try to find the center of everything with the ruler and a pencil on this machine and the X tool was made for lazy people like me.
I guess I'll just wait forever and not buy one like I have done for the last 12 years.
10 screws need taken out and its pretty much assembled????? HORRIBLE HORRIBLE MACHINE!!!!!!!!!! wink wink