If you liked Andrej there is a part in the book 'Blood and Fire' that he and Grimaldus talk again,it goes like this: ‘Vox link established,’ came the bridge servitor’s voice. Using the Eternal Crusader’s communications array had been the only way to amplify my transmitter’s signal. A hololithic avatar started to form, ghostly blue, above my palm. Grimaldus: ‘Colonel Ryken,’ I greeted the flickering image. Andrej : ‘That is not the case,’ the hololithic ghost replied, in a voice husky with flawed vox. Details of the soldier started to drift into resolution. It was not Colonel Ryken - as if the man’s reply had not revealed that already. ‘This link is not so good, eh? I have no visual feed. Also, forgiveness please, but Colonel Ryken is away doing other soldierly things. He is not here. He is gone.’ I took a breath, inwardly counselling myself to be patient. Grimaldus: ‘I need to speak with him at once.’ Andrej : ‘As do I, I assure you, for the colonel owes me money. A serious matter, yes? If he dies before paying me back, my temper will be terrible to behold. I am Captain Andrej Valatok of the Legion. How may I be of serving use to you?’ Grimaldus: ‘Have your adepts relay this signal to-’ Andrej : ‘What is wrong with this vox link? Mountain bears growl less than you, I am thinking. You sound like a Space Marine.’ Grimaldus: ‘I am a Space Marine.’ Andrej : ‘Aha! I am, if not good friends, then at least well acquainted with Reclusiarch Grimaldus of the Black Templars. The Hero of Helsreach, you know? I saved his life one time. He even thanked me.’ Grimaldus: ‘Andrej,’ I replied, making every letter a slow threat. ‘This is Reclusiarch Grimaldus.’ Andrej : ‘Hail, Reclusiarch! You sound angry.’
"I will die on this world. I will die on Armageddon." Absolute chills. A man knowing he's about to die and resolving himself to keep fighting anyway. What a powerful line.
@@antonycharnock2993 jo i was like, wtf!? Andrei NEEDS to tell u about his wive, his love, his world when he said well that was random... but yeah he got the feels at the end too, u can hear it
Whenever people ask why Grimaldus is a chad, I simply point to the scene where he saves an Emperor class titan by simply telling it “You swore to fight, so get up”.
"This is a magnetic field stabilizer housing" "What does it do?" "It houses the stabilizers for a magnetic field generator" Cue Adjutant Tyro trying her hardest not to let her eyes roll into the back of her skull.
It all starts going down for me emotionally when Primus cries out, "They're bringing the Temple down!" and you can hear his voice cracking. That whole last section is just emotional gut-punch after emotional gut-punch - seeing Primus fighting with only one arm, Nero sticking an Ork in the face before being dragged down, Primus calling out to Grimaldus before being burned, and then, "Goodbye, brother." Not a dry eye in the house after all that! Loved your reaction, my brother, keep up the fine work. In the Emperor's name.
6:16 - The quality of the animation is linked with Grimaldus's mindset and memories. As the decisive moments of the battle approach, he gets over his doubts and his recollections become sharper.
Yeah. But I saw this masterpiece from different angle. When I watched it first time I cant understand why first quarter of movie was so primitive and ascetic while at second quarter it looks more comlex and detailed in comparison. Yeah, definitely there is nuances with resourses and skill, but on my opinion he doesnt even try. After watching it second time I was enlightened. Its a book!!! When you start reading book you cant understand what you must imagine. And this understanding came to you while you reading. And while you finishing book after main events you mostly loosing all details because you have great emotions. Abstract and uncertain > understanding and shaped > overall and straightforward > reflection and abstrac. Autor not only cut graphics because of lacking he did that like he reading book for us. Intentionally or not. Also, primitive graphic steals most of full scale scenes like hive city or orks fleet. We have almost no detiled terrain, fog and walls is all what surround our characters. It was perfect. White and black abstract scenes of industrial city almost perfect. For my taste this part must be more monumental and and have more scale. But in reality its real masterpiece.
"A Titan of sheer massive size that I didn't think existed in Warhammer 40k" Sound like a T'au. Report to your closest Inquisitor for testing and interrogating.
No, it's perfectly understandable. The idea of something as large as a Titan moving around, plus the implications of such a weapon of war, which is that the Titan was created to fight something that only a Titan could fight, is difficult for the human mind to process in person, as the gravity of it all doesn't really set in until you're there, watching a skyscraper walk around, shaking the planet beneath your feet and deafening everyone for miles with the sounds of its war cry and weapons. It's quite common for Guardsmen deployed near Titans to go into fits of hysteria and madness as a result of this, so much so that the phenomenon actually has an accepted name in the lore: Titanshock. Similarly, there is another phenomenon called Post-Human Dread, whereby the human mind has difficulty accepting what augmented soldiers like the Adeptus Astartes, or other superhuman creatures are able to do. The phrase 'Nothing that big should be able to move that fast.' comes up fairly regularly in that regard, and Astartes combat doctrine actually relies on Post-Human Dread as a foundation of its shock and awe tactics; a second of hesitation as a heavy gunner's breath hitches at seeing an 8-foot tall humanoid tank sprinting at the speed of a car towards them is a perfect example of low-grade Post-Human Dread.
@@Brutalyte616 I was just joking about the T'au's thoughts on the Titans, dw, I know that the idea of the Titans and Astartes would be a very disturbing thing irl.
12:03 Jurisian would occasionally pause and examine some of the Mechanicus’s abandoned technology. ‘This is a magnetic field stabiliser housing,’ he said at one point, walking around what looked to Cyria like an oversized tank engine as big as a Chimera APC. ‘What does it do?’ she made the mistake of asking. ‘It houses the stabilisers for a magnetic field generator.’ Her fear of the Astartes had dimmed some way by this point. She fought the urge to sigh, but failed. ‘Do you mean,’ Jurisian enquired, ‘what application does this have in Imperial technology?’ ‘That’s close to what I meant, yes. What is its purpose?’ ‘Magnetic fields of significant size and intensity are difficult to create and a struggle to maintain. Many of these units would be required to work in synchronicity, stabilising a powerful field of magnetic force. Such standard constructs as this housing are used in anti-gravitational technology, much of which is kept sealed by Mechanicus secrecy. More commonly, the Imperial Navy would use these units in the construction and maintenance of starship-sized magnetic accelerator rings. Plasma weapon technology, on a grand scale.’
The underlying 3d models haven't changed from the first episode, or the animating of those models, Boylan just shifted the overlay filters as the story progresses from that very heavy B/W juddery one, to something less jarring. I'm not sure if he planned it all along, or started toning it back after feedback, but he ended up using that shift to represent Grimaldus' state of mind...from feeling purposeless and disconnected after losing his mentor, everything washed out and b/w to then becoming engaged and filled with purpose, when the colour starts ramping up in saturation...to empty again (but less than in the first episodes) after losing so much again at the end
Fun fact, the Thunderhawk pilot is voiced by Chapter Master Valrak, a 40k news and rumour TH-camr while Artarion the Standard bearer is voiced by Baldermort a 40k lore TH-camr who does the intro's for the Distractible Podcast.
Bit of trivia about Bayard, there is a model Bayard's revenge that shows an Emperor's Champion killing an ork. Many mistake the Champion to be Bayard due to miniatures name, it is meant to be unnamed Champion avenging Bayard.
the animation style is meant to reflect Grimaldus' state of mind and clarity. things are "sketchy" when hes full of doubt and guilt, when his memory is fuzzier and when he isn't aligned with his purpose, it gets clearer and clearer as he "connects" to war
The gunship pilot that flew them out was voiced by Chapter Master Valrak, one of our TH-cam WH40K community pillars. You should definitely check out some of his stuff.
I can recommend "Titans Pacific Rim 40,000" by Pancreasnowork. It is a detailed video about the Titans of each Faction on the Tabletop and Lore side which will give you some Knowledge like what is a titan by definition
To keep in mind the cannon that’s mounted to Oberon is what they use on some of the ships in space if there is a big problem. Using it in atmosphere on a titan is beyond overkill.
The mechs that you thought were dreadnoughts @1:09:40 were in fact titans. The small one is a Warhound scout class titan (the smallest kind), with the larger ones being Warlord class (only thing bigger then them is an Emperor class titan like Stormherald).
The Clarity of the Animation reflects the Clarity of Grimaldus’ mind, conviction, and determination. To “upgrade” the previous animation would actually affect the story because it reflects the mental state of Grimaldus. It actually needs to be that way. Which is kinda genius.
From what I have heard the animation is represented from Grimaldus's mental state and memory so he feels more alive and remembers the battles more clearly than the other stuff.
Angels of death is another series similar to this one that would be nice to see you react to. It follows a squad of Blood Angels. Really nice stuff. The awakening too!
I’m sure someone mentioned but the animation was always this, it just had a filter on it to make it look hand drawn, representing grimaldus mind in disarray before calming in battle
So that meteor was an Ork rock basically they strap a bunch of rockets and boosters onto an asteroid and send them into planets, this specific rock was sent to destroy hive city Hades which the orks failed to take during the second war of Armageddon, also Oberon or otherwise ordinatus Armageddon is a main weapon on a space ship used to destroy ships and burn planets with exsterminatus, to give to an idea of how over powered this weapon is they basically took a navy battleship main canon and put it onto a tank. Also grimaldus has an official model as well.
Orks absolutely have Titans. They're known as Gargants, and they're constructed as idols to the Orks' gods, Gork (who is cunningly brutal) and Mork (who is brutally cunning). Whenever a large enough group of Orks get together and start getting restless, the Mekboyz - Ork engineers and scientists - start having dreams that lead them to start building Gargants, whether the regular ones, the larger Great Gargants, or the colossal Mega-Gargants, which are similar in size to an Imperator Titan like Storm Herald. During the Third War for Armageddon, the Orks deployed over a hundred Gargants of various sizes, classes, and configurations to the planet.
Also worth noting: Grimaldus has an actual official model you can use ingame. He's a special character for the Black Templars. He goes into battle with 3 special relics of that temple that his brothers died fighting in.
If you thought this was good, wait till you listen to the audio book and find out about the 9 odd hours that got cut out of this ;) Sooooooooooooo much more
Great reaction, you're not the only one who got emotional. In the book Andre meets Grimaldus on the Black Templars ship in orbit. Their interaction continues until Grimaldus tells Andre if he doesn't leave, he's going with the Black Templars. Keep up the great work brother!
Even though I've watched Helsreach about ten times already, I always share a tear, in the same place as you. You shouldn't be ashamed of sincere tears at such dramatic moments. It shows that you have an empathic soul and a kind heart. Thank you for such a great reaction. It was a pleasure to share such moments/memories with you, peace to your home.
I would definitely recommend looking up the miniature for Grimaldus, because it is amazing. Bear in mind, after he pulled himself from the rubble of the basilica, he wound up saving some relics from it, and those are the servitor minis that come with him, each one carrying something of sacred importance.
The quality/amount of color in Helsreach mirrors Grimaldus's emotional state. At the beginning of the story, Grimaldus is struggling with depression and survivors guilt and so the animation is very black and white. As the story progresses and he begins to move past his guilt, the animation gains clarity and color is introduced. By the climax, Grimaldus has come to terms with his grief and the animation reflects this; but then his squad is killed in front of him, the depression and survivors guilt returnand the animation returns to back and white to showcase this. I prefer the interpretation of the general mood of the final, heart-wrenching last stand within the temple in the Helsreach fan-made movie than the novel. In the novel, in true Templar fashion, there's almost a sort of insane levity, what with Artarion laughing his final words and Grimaldus echoing that. I can see why people would approve of either interpretation, but I prefer the movie's. The tone is far more somber and heart-breaking, as it should be, I think. The Black Templars are known for the incredible zealotry that most rears its head in moments that would make most consider a retreat. Their attrition rates are atrociously high. Dying gloriously on the field of battle, against overwhelming odds is seen as the highest honor...as it should be. I feel sometimes it's portrayed with almost too much levity, though. The Helsreach movie did it right; it showed us something far more somber. It showed us that even amongst warriors who see a violent death as an inevitability, who feel no fear, who seek to burn twice as brightly still experience the pain of loss...and it is crushing. Not only that, the deaths of squad Grimaldus all showed their true, beautiful and terribly honest, colors at the end. Nero, a competent apothecary and warrior no doubt, was far more prone to outbursts of emotion, especially grief. Amongst Templars, one might call him soft...I think he was simply the most human. Within meek, gentle Nerovar beat the heart of defiance; as he was hoisted onto a spear by his midriff, he pulled himself down lower upon the spear whilst still being impaled...and for what purpose? So that, in a final act of defiance and raw courage, he could stab his killer and take him down with him. In his final moments, we see gentle Nero shine brighter than all as a true warrior. For such a death Bell of Lost Souls upon Holly Terra will rang and the Emperor drop a single tear, embracing another soul of His finest. Priamus was young, proud, haughty, and immensely talented. Quick to anger, quick to misinterpret. Proud to a fault, he refused to show weakness; arrogance was his default trait, though it did not come from a place of malice. In his final moments, the overwhelming pain of missing a limb, amongst a myriad of other injuries, finally showed in his voice. It was heart-wrenching. "They're bringing the temple down!" is said with such desperation, yet he continues to fight. The implacable pain of witnessing the brutalizing of his battle-brother Nerovar and the futility of trying to save him is palpable in his delivery when he cries "Nero!" Not least though, is when Priamus, finally succumbing to fatigue, takes a blow across his face and falls to his knees. In his final moments, proud and boastful Priamus looks towards his brother-chaplain and says "Grimaldus...brother." with such pain and trembling voice, the rest of the scene I watched through blurred vision. In his final moments, despite being a zealous Templar, despite knowing he would die violently, despite a lifetime of battle, despite knowing that his death in glorious battle would earn him a place beside the Emperor of mankind...he wished only for the comfort and presence of one of his brothers. He did so much, yet so little. He didn't want to die alone. None shall find him wanting. Artarion...dependable, sturdy Artarion. I don't have nearly as much to say, but it doesn't soften the blow any less. Banner bearer of Squad Grimaldus. Stalwart. Gruff. A pillar of strength, to be sure. In his final moment, before decapitation, he looked towards his brother, Grimaldus, and somberly said goodbye. He was going towards the Emperor's light, he was saved...his honor and his memory intact. He was to die a warrior's glorious death against impossible odds; this is akin to the holy grail, practically, for Black Templars. Yet, still, in his final moments, he laments having to be separated in life from his brother. The sheer weight of loss sets itself upon him so solidly, he cannot hide it when he says "Goodbye, brother." Perhaps he knew. Perhaps he knew that he alone would die and Grimaldus would live. Maybe his deep, audible pain was in knowing, in feeling that somehow Grimaldus would live. That wherever Artarion was going now, in the afterlife, Grimaldus will not follow...not for an agonizingly long time. And so he grieved because he would miss his brother, simply put, and Grimaldus would miss him. How soberingly human. Were I Grimaldus, I don't think I would have wanted to survive, either. The pain of living through that may very well dwarf whatever temporary pain he would have felt from death. The final guilt of living, he must bear it like a mantle, like a scar on his heart - until the Emperor call his soul too. "The Hero of Helsreach...as if there was only one." - none could say better.
The last stand at the temple hits like a hammer every time. The aftermath, with Andre and the empty Thunderhawk are bittersweet reminders of what was lost. Helsreach is a perfect example that 40k is the story of The Long Defeat of humanity, not its triumph. And it hurts. So much is lost, and yet to be lost - but it will one day be lost. In 40k, Humanity as a whole fights for just one more day. But the last day will dawn, and those bright moments that came to that point will be lost. Helsreach reminds you of that, in what you mourn. So, don't be ashamed of that emotion. Its the whole point.
DeeBeeGeek needs to watch a video about the different titans. I swear if I hear him mix up titain and dreadnaught again im gonna go on my own crusade 😂
Hi there ! Someon already told you in another comment under the previous episodes but the animation style variations is voluntary : the further we are from the time of narration, the sketchier and blurrier it is, as in Grimaldus' memories. When we are at present time, at the very moment the action takes place, or a more vivid memory (some memories are clearer than others even though they are further back in time), the animation is more precise, more coloured and more acurate ;) So in the end, when Grimaldus recollects an old memory, it gets sketchy again ;)
I,was told that it doesn't reflect his memory but his attitude, in the beginning he's dealing with the death of his mentor and his belief that he'll never measure up to mordred, then it gets clearer as he hits his stride and starts winning little victories, then at the end he's wracked with survivors guilt and returning doubt.
@@eXpriest Aaah, interresting ! It could be I suppose. But one is not incompatible with the other : we could say that his most traumatic memories, wether they be old or recent, are represented by the rougher sketchy look. And there is also the fact that some sequences are shown from another person's PoV and he is not even present (Storm Herald's fall for instance), so theses sequences are portrayed in a more "neutral" style...
Warhammer+ has brought on the animators, it's why the Angels of Death animations are done the way they are. Origins, the first episode, was free on TH-cam until very recently.
There are animated series by Games Workshop. They have multiple Warhammer series but I recommend watching their three episode mini series called Pariah Nexus and The Tithes.
I know you have some confusion in this but at 1:09:40 you see a warhound Titan the smallest of the Titans then you see 2 warlord Titans which are the second biggest and of course the main Titan we see throughout the whole movie is called an emperor class the largest of them. These are three of the four Titan classes the final being the Reaver class which is not shown in Helsreach. Also for more clarification a dreadnought is specifically from a chapter meaning whenever you see one they will have their chapter's iconography on them. And they're probably two and a half Space Marines tall. They're not that large when put right next to a Titan.
Conflict between chapters on the same team - look up Marine's Malevolent, they had a... disagreement with the Salamanders too in this war. Really highlights how different chapter can be.
As many has said, the animation is related to clarity of memory and also depression. Fun facts. The Chapter at the start with wolf symbol isnt the Space wolfs, is the shadow wolfs chapter. This chapter only appears in this book and the reason behind this is that the wife of Aaron, the writter, at that time was reading about the Luna Wolfs and Sons of Horus legion, and she loved the Luna wolfs and its loyalty, Aaron being the gentleman he is, created the Shadow Wolfs specialy for his wife as a love letter to her. The couple that kissed, both survived the battle. Andre lived enough to see once again Grimaldus and be funny and friendly towards him. I another part of the war, Grimaldus fought along side the last meme er of another Chapter, Ekebe Dubaku from the Celestial Lions, they are like african culture in a way. Oberon is an ordinance destined to the world of Armaggedon for its defense, was urried and forgotten because never recived the sanction of the ad. Mech. making it almost Heresy and traitorous in a way its usage. All important words have a ordinance like this but they vchange in a way, they are handcrated for that specific world. The pilot of the Thunderhawk is none other than the youtuber/streamer Chapter Master Valrak.
1:01:03 This was actually not about tactics. Thing is about orks is that they believe that the big boss knows best & his is the strongest. If you kill orks' warlord all troops fall into dissaray.
Or maybe not. It depends if they really kill actual warlord and not Nob who leads offensive. Or maybe next Nob in line is a lot more cunning and smarter which makes it worse. Plus whole WAAGH thing that makes orks work in sync as one organism and that was one of biggest WAAGH so orks were incredibly coordinated.. They really need to kill Gaz to get real effect, not local boss. That would've stopped war instantly. That said, killing warlord is good strategy on for smaller conflicts against orks. It's what imperium does on ork infested worlds from time to time if i'm not mistaken.
@@tikhonoldwood3800 what makes moment of grimaldus shittalking salamander funny, is that guy probably same rank or even higher then him. That's looks like first company(firedrakes), and since guy is in charge of 70 marines that's 1st company captain then. So grimadlus managed to shittalk first company veteran Captain from founding legion....While grimaldus is just...high chaplain of splinter chapter.
Something really cool to note about Grimaldus' tabletop model is that the servitors with him are carrying relics from his final battle in Helsreach. One of them is even carrying part of the temple itself. XD
1:08:29 the Order of the Argent Shroud is my favorite order of sisters. Their whole stick is that they are shock troops who move in quickly with overwhelming firepower, and fight in complete silence. They unitize transports such as Rhinos, Immolators (tanks with stained glass turrets such as heavy flamers, multi-Meltas, and heavy bolters), and Repressors( Up armored Rhinos with heavy flamers and a siege shield) to rush across the battlefield. Most iconic units being Seraphim, sisters with jump packs that duel wield bolt pistols, hand flamers, or inferno pistols( Melta pistols)and Dominions whom are battle sisters with special weapons such as Storm Bolters( two boltguns strapped together), Flamers, and Melta Guns. Their patron Saint, Silvana was one of Alicia Dominica’s bodyguards back when the church had a corrupt Ecclesiarch. They fought against multiple space marine chapters to a stand still until the Custodes intervened and convinced the sisters that their Ecclesiarch was corrupt. Which then lead to Dominica executing him. Btw please react to If The Emperor Had a Text-To-Speech Device cause they show this bit and it’s 100% word for word what happened. Afterwards Silvana would die before starting a crusade. Her body covered in a silver veil until one day her body disappeared, leaving only her veil with an imprint of herself. This is where the name of the order, the Argent Shroud, gets its name. TLDR Silvana started her own order, The Argent Shroud, with their main idea being “Deeds are louder then words,” as they will fight in complete silence until the mission is complete with overwhelming force.
Fun fact, in the book Major Ryken and adjutant Tyro also survived the final battle. Major Ryken was also promoted to Colonel and got mechanical prosthetics to repair his wounded face.
Not a video recommendation, but if you want to see brotherhood on the chaos side of things, I recommend reading or listening to "The Talon of Horus" and "Black Legion" also by Aaron Dempski-Bowden, they cover the founding of the Black Legion and the ideas surrounding Astartes rejecting the concepts of the Emperor and even their own Primarchs.
1:09:40 Not a dreadnought. Dreadnoughts are the entombed astartes mechs you saw in Space Marine 2, and they only reach 2-3 times the height of a Space Marine. Then you have mechs like Imperial Knights, which work like titans but on a smaller scale with only one pilot. These range at heights between small and medium buildings. What you see at this point in the movie is a Warhound Titan, which is one of the "smallest" mechs to classify as a Titan. Faster and more agile than larger titan classes, they usually operate in "packs" or supporting larger Titans that are vulnerable to flanking. Warhounds are roughly double the height of Imperial Knights.
So to go over some small things which the animation doesn’t but also helps for context. 1. The Armageddon Steel Legion (the lads in the gas masks and trenchcoats) are the local imperial guard regiments of Armageddon. They are well known for being one of the few trusted planets allowed to create combined arms regiments within the guard and they are also extremely well known for their mechanised warfare formations - mostly using chimera’s. If you want an idea of how mechanised specialised these lads are, during both the second and third wars, when the factory’s that produce the local brand of chimera were invaded by orks they were actually mounting them up and using them inside the factory’s as they came off the production line. And how large are these factory’s? They would have known artillery duels within them. Yes artillery duels would be fought inside these places. - note Andrey is a Steel Legion Elite which are Elite Storm Trooper formation created by taking a mix of high level veterans and troopers from regiments across the world as well as schola cadets. These guys are known as Stormtroopers and are essentially the Elite of the Imperial Guard. 2. If you wish to known about Hades Hive look up the 2nd War for Armageddon. But in short, after the local governor of the planet completely screwed up its defence early on in the 2nd and got that majority of his loyal troops butchered at the Hemlock river, Yarrick essentially blocked him out and took mostly direct control of the guard forces he could and focused them around Hades Hive, completely stalling the Ork invasion there and refusing to let the city fall. As such when the Astartes elements finally arrived to relieve them, Hades Hive became the great place of the Orks first failed invasion and Gazgul knew this as such destroyed it early during the 3rd War to prevent its use to Yarrick and as a symbol of morale to the people. - if you want to known what happened to that governor. Let’s just say he comes back in the third… to help the orks, but his fate is left up to the Last Chancers (good set of books to read, essentially the Imperial Guard version of the Dirty Dozen) 3. You actually semi-seemed to understand/catch what was happening with Princepts Zarhar before and when she was claimed but I can illuminate more. A princepts besides essentially being the primary human pilot of the Titan with the moderati helping managed and coordinate the titans systems with her own actions, the Princepts essentially is more than just the pilot, they essentially become the titans second soul. Like the Mechanicus likes to say, the Machine Spirit is an actual thing, and when a Princepts melds themselves with a Titan for the first time they are essentially melding themselves with the soul of said Titan (alongside the soul of every other burned up princepts before them). They are essentially the human element that helps keep the titans own soul from completely doing what it wants. And that is how Princepts die. As the Titan and them age they are essentially fighting a battle of domination, and sadly the titans machine spirit has much more life to it than its human competitors. As such over time the Titans own soul will slowly consume the Princepts throughout the years and battles, each scar ever bonding them closer together until eventually…. The Titan just takes that last bit. Most moderati and operators of a Titan will understand when its starting to get worse and happen, as like shown the blend of the Princepts and machine start becoming very notable and indistinguishable - and as even noted, sometimes the Princepts isn’t even in control always, sometimes the machine takes control too especially after/during extended battle and campaigns of heavy fighting, going berserk itself against the enemies fighting it as if an animal unleashed. Sometimes a Princepts can wrestle back control after such an event, with the Machine Spirits own blood craving satisfied. However, a lot of the time this is when a Princepts will be lost and usually the Titan too as they will usually be lost in such battles. - and yes Grimaldus essentially called Zarhar back from the dead. 4. So Ork titans come in a few classifications like the Imperiums but much simpler too. Their mini-titans in equivalent to imperium super heavy tanks like the baneblade or around the size/strength of a war hound scout titan (the baby one you saw) are known simply as Stompa’s. The larger ones above that on equal with Riever and Warlord Titans are known as Gargants. And the big one you saw fighting Stormhearld, a Super Gargant. As for how do they make them. Well as you saw in episodes 6 and 7 orks don’t land troops on the planet in nice and orderly fashion. Nope they just crash said ships onto surface. Yes a few millions orks die. But they’ll get than back by tomorrow. However, said strap from said ships can now be used to create all the vehicles and machine shops and equipment orks would need for a war by their mek-boys. And as you properly known/have heard, orks don’t need stuff to run for it to run. If they believe it works it works. 4.5. When it comes to the Titan Legions there are essentially 4 main types of titans and a couple more specialist ones I can’t remember. But the main 4 are: Warhound Titan - scout titans. Will work in pairs and will usually help to either support larger titans within the legion or will be used to scout for enemy Titan formations ahead of the larger ones. Warhound are usually also the most numerous amongst a legion. Think 2 of them for every Reiver Titan Riever Titans - the middle ground between the Warlord and Warhound. Best could be dear as the trooper Titan. Essentially your basic line Titan. More numerous than others, think 1 of these for ever 2 warhounds. Warlord Titan - a proper good war titan. These are heavily armed and quite bulky and pack a punch and can take one. Not as rare as Emperator Titans but also quite rare themselves. Think one of these for every 2-3 Reiver Titans. Emperator Titans - the largest and most powerful of all Titans. They come in many different shapes and forms but all of them are extremely powerful. To have one within a legion is quite the statement. You will usually find maybe 1 Emperator Titan for every 3-4 Warlord Titans in a Legion. Maybe. - and to note when it came to Zarhar herself portion of her own legion, I think it’s noted she had around 25-28 titans at the start. When they left they had around 5-6 left.
And by the way, no, it was not a dreadnought : it was a Warhound Reconnaissance Titan. The smallest class of Titans, bigger than Imperial Knights, and so much bigger than dreadnoughts. Operated by three crew (one princeps, a moderati and a helmsman typically) and maintained by one techpriest and a few servitors in the back section. ;)
If you want more, watch Angels of Death. Same people who did Helsreach, except with more budget, runs on Unreal engine instead of Source FIlm Maker, and multiple voice actors (the one who did Grimaldus also voices the Blood Angel chaplain), animation is still about the same in how rough it looks but the voice acting is *chefs kiss* and the story is still pretty interesting. Unfortunately its only available on WarhammerTV, along with some other Warhammer animations, but its not too expensive and you can binge watch all the shows in a month, if you plan on doing one month full of Warhammer stuff.
Ork titans are referred to as Gargants and are gigantic piles of cobbled together scrap that make even imperial titans look small. Look up the "big 'ed bossbunka" which is an actual model GW sells - that is, for all intents and purposes, the head of an Ork gargant, and it is the size of a building just by itself, it's used ingame as a fortification/terrain piece.
at the beginning of the show, grimaldus said he would die on hellsreach, as the story progressed the animation became better and better to show he truly began to change and care about the people who in the beginning he wanted nothing to deal with and after he survive in the end it all return as it started. Grimaldus was right, he died in that planet and came out as another person
Well theres certainly more than enough conflict between chapters if thats what you want lol. Obviously not mentioning Heretics vs Loyalists, theres also cases where two loyalist chapters fight eachother. Loyalist chapters have even completely wiped other loyalist chapters out on rare occasions
The animation doesn't contain the scene in the basilica before the attack when Grimaldus walks among the refugees and a girl stops him. Highly recommend everyone to read the book.
If you looks at the Thunderhawk in Space Marine 2, the dual heavy bolter turret on the wing has "No Pity! No Remorse!" written on it. which is a Black templar thing, not an Ultramarines thing 😉 "No Pity! No Remorse! No Fear!" as Grimaldus shouts in the final fight. The black and white hazy animation in the first episodes is meant to represent the boring and colorless life of Black Templars when they are not at war. as the fight starts, color and beauty start showing, and it becomes clearer and more beautiful as the warriors do what they are meant to do... Fight and Die for the Emperor. that's also why it returns to black & white haziness when the fight is done.
I am ashamed to say I hadn't seen Hellsreach till now, it was fantastic. Thanks DeeBee for doing this one. The Last Church is one you need to do next, also fantastic
Artarion is an absolute chad holding the banner, fighting one-handed while attracting all the aggro. And when they all start dropping like flies, every death is a knife to the gut.
If you liked Andrej there is a part in the book 'Blood and Fire' that he and Grimaldus talk again,it goes like this:
‘Vox link established,’ came the bridge servitor’s voice. Using the Eternal Crusader’s communications array had been the only way to amplify my transmitter’s signal. A hololithic avatar started to form, ghostly blue, above my palm.
Grimaldus: ‘Colonel Ryken,’ I greeted the flickering image.
Andrej : ‘That is not the case,’ the hololithic ghost replied, in a voice husky with flawed vox. Details of the soldier started to drift into resolution. It was not Colonel Ryken - as if the man’s reply had not revealed that already. ‘This link is not so good, eh? I have no visual feed. Also, forgiveness please, but Colonel Ryken is away doing other soldierly things. He is not here. He is gone.’
I took a breath, inwardly counselling myself to be patient.
Grimaldus: ‘I need to speak with him at once.’
Andrej : ‘As do I, I assure you, for the colonel owes me money. A serious matter, yes? If he dies before paying me back, my temper will be terrible to behold. I am Captain Andrej Valatok of the Legion. How may I be of serving use to you?’
Grimaldus: ‘Have your adepts relay this signal to-’
Andrej : ‘What is wrong with this vox link? Mountain bears growl less than you, I am thinking. You sound like a Space Marine.’
Grimaldus: ‘I am a Space Marine.’
Andrej : ‘Aha! I am, if not good friends, then at least well acquainted with Reclusiarch Grimaldus of the Black Templars. The Hero of Helsreach, you know? I saved his life one time. He even thanked me.’
Grimaldus: ‘Andrej,’ I replied, making every letter a slow threat. ‘This is Reclusiarch Grimaldus.’
Andrej : ‘Hail, Reclusiarch! You sound angry.’
Why do I want a buddy cop movie with those two.....?
I feel like their energies fit perfectly
@@MakooWallinen it would be really fun i have no doubt about that.
@@MakooWallinen well he DID kinda get stranded on the Eternal Crusader, so you may get your wish.
Girls: he didn’t even cry during titanic does he even feel
Men during hellsreach: 💧🗿
"I will die on this world.
I will die on Armageddon."
Absolute chills. A man knowing he's about to die and resolving himself to keep fighting anyway. What a powerful line.
Yeah that moment always breaks me.
The animation has changed because grimaldus's mental state is clearer and gets clearer as others had said many times
and in the end after he survived the fall of the cathedral all return back to the beginning...as grimaldus himself said: he died in that world
@@diegojimenez5937 With every loss he suffered. Speaking to Andrei at the end "Did you find her?" ".....yes.....I found her"😢
and the black templars still stay black and white...
@@antonycharnock2993 jo i was like, wtf!? Andrei NEEDS to tell u about his wive, his love, his world when he said well that was random... but yeah he got the feels at the end too, u can hear it
I am no judge of human emotion, but I see his smile turn fragile and false.
“Yes,” he says. “I did find her”
It hurts every time…
😢😢
the fuckin pause he takes it what makes it so devastating
Was she the woman he was with at the Mechanicus Outpost when Grimaldus first meets him?
@@watcherzero5256 yes
Whenever people ask why Grimaldus is a chad, I simply point to the scene where he saves an Emperor class titan by simply telling it “You swore to fight, so get up”.
the epic speech he was giving that got interupted tho :(
that was sounding GOOD with that music
He's obviously got something in his eyes...the Princeps and the Prioress.
There is another fan animated 40k audio book called "The Last Church". Would definitely recommend.
YES
Yes + he should watch an adaptation on youtube (it's an hour or so long).
I ABSOLUTELY SUPPORT THIS
@@Drakefance5 it was a privilege watching that first time
I will never recover if he doesn't watch it
Hero of Helsreach!
As if there was only one.
"Don't worry. Me and the six or seven others who survived won't tell anyone"
"This is a magnetic field stabilizer housing"
"What does it do?"
"It houses the stabilizers for a magnetic field generator"
Cue Adjutant Tyro trying her hardest not to let her eyes roll into the back of her skull.
I love that scene so much, it is just PEAK.
You can just see her holding back a "That is not what I.... nevermind."
Spoken like a true son of Dorn.
Rambo 3 reference.
Goodbye, brother. Gets me every single time.
It all starts going down for me emotionally when Primus cries out, "They're bringing the Temple down!" and you can hear his voice cracking. That whole last section is just emotional gut-punch after emotional gut-punch - seeing Primus fighting with only one arm, Nero sticking an Ork in the face before being dragged down, Primus calling out to Grimaldus before being burned, and then, "Goodbye, brother."
Not a dry eye in the house after all that! Loved your reaction, my brother, keep up the fine work. In the Emperor's name.
6:16 - The quality of the animation is linked with Grimaldus's mindset and memories. As the decisive moments of the battle approach, he gets over his doubts and his recollections become sharper.
Yeah. But I saw this masterpiece from different angle. When I watched it first time I cant understand why first quarter of movie was so primitive and ascetic while at second quarter it looks more comlex and detailed in comparison. Yeah, definitely there is nuances with resourses and skill, but on my opinion he doesnt even try. After watching it second time I was enlightened. Its a book!!! When you start reading book you cant understand what you must imagine. And this understanding came to you while you reading. And while you finishing book after main events you mostly loosing all details because you have great emotions. Abstract and uncertain > understanding and shaped > overall and straightforward > reflection and abstrac. Autor not only cut graphics because of lacking he did that like he reading book for us. Intentionally or not. Also, primitive graphic steals most of full scale scenes like hive city or orks fleet. We have almost no detiled terrain, fog and walls is all what surround our characters. It was perfect. White and black abstract scenes of industrial city almost perfect. For my taste this part must be more monumental and and have more scale. But in reality its real masterpiece.
"A Titan of sheer massive size that I didn't think existed in Warhammer 40k"
Sound like a T'au. Report to your closest Inquisitor for testing and interrogating.
No, it's perfectly understandable. The idea of something as large as a Titan moving around, plus the implications of such a weapon of war, which is that the Titan was created to fight something that only a Titan could fight, is difficult for the human mind to process in person, as the gravity of it all doesn't really set in until you're there, watching a skyscraper walk around, shaking the planet beneath your feet and deafening everyone for miles with the sounds of its war cry and weapons. It's quite common for Guardsmen deployed near Titans to go into fits of hysteria and madness as a result of this, so much so that the phenomenon actually has an accepted name in the lore: Titanshock.
Similarly, there is another phenomenon called Post-Human Dread, whereby the human mind has difficulty accepting what augmented soldiers like the Adeptus Astartes, or other superhuman creatures are able to do. The phrase 'Nothing that big should be able to move that fast.' comes up fairly regularly in that regard, and Astartes combat doctrine actually relies on Post-Human Dread as a foundation of its shock and awe tactics; a second of hesitation as a heavy gunner's breath hitches at seeing an 8-foot tall humanoid tank sprinting at the speed of a car towards them is a perfect example of low-grade Post-Human Dread.
@@Brutalyte616 I was just joking about the T'au's thoughts on the Titans, dw, I know that the idea of the Titans and Astartes would be a very disturbing thing irl.
The final moment of the battle was so emotional. With the falling flag, the light from the cracking ceiling and Grimaldus's last stand and etc.
12:03
Jurisian would occasionally pause and examine some of the Mechanicus’s abandoned technology.
‘This is a magnetic field stabiliser housing,’ he said at one point, walking around what looked to Cyria like an oversized tank engine as big as a Chimera APC.
‘What does it do?’ she made the mistake of asking.
‘It houses the stabilisers for a magnetic field generator.’
Her fear of the Astartes had dimmed some way by this point. She fought the urge to sigh, but failed. ‘Do you mean,’ Jurisian enquired, ‘what application does this have in Imperial technology?’ ‘That’s close to what I meant, yes. What is its purpose?’
‘Magnetic fields of significant size and intensity are difficult to create and a struggle to maintain.
Many of these units would be required to work in synchronicity, stabilising a powerful field of magnetic force. Such standard constructs as this housing are used in anti-gravitational technology, much of which is kept sealed by Mechanicus secrecy. More commonly, the Imperial Navy would use these units in the construction and maintenance of starship-sized magnetic accelerator rings. Plasma weapon technology, on a grand scale.’
The underlying 3d models haven't changed from the first episode, or the animating of those models, Boylan just shifted the overlay filters as the story progresses from that very heavy B/W juddery one, to something less jarring. I'm not sure if he planned it all along, or started toning it back after feedback, but he ended up using that shift to represent Grimaldus' state of mind...from feeling purposeless and disconnected after losing his mentor, everything washed out and b/w to then becoming engaged and filled with purpose, when the colour starts ramping up in saturation...to empty again (but less than in the first episodes) after losing so much again at the end
Fun fact, the Thunderhawk pilot is voiced by Chapter Master Valrak, a 40k news and rumour TH-camr while Artarion the Standard bearer is voiced by Baldermort a 40k lore TH-camr who does the intro's for the Distractible Podcast.
Bit of trivia about Bayard, there is a model Bayard's revenge that shows an Emperor's Champion killing an ork. Many mistake the Champion to be Bayard due to miniatures name, it is meant to be unnamed Champion avenging Bayard.
the animation style is meant to reflect Grimaldus' state of mind and clarity. things are "sketchy" when hes full of doubt and guilt, when his memory is fuzzier and when he isn't aligned with his purpose, it gets clearer and clearer as he "connects" to war
nice perfect thing to watch on a Sunday night. I hope you liked the whole series.
47:19 - It's not just time or memory, it's his mental state. The more despair or apathy, the jankier the animation too.
The gunship pilot that flew them out was voiced by Chapter Master Valrak, one of our TH-cam WH40K community pillars. You should definitely check out some of his stuff.
I can recommend "Titans Pacific Rim 40,000" by Pancreasnowork. It is a detailed video about the Titans of each Faction on the Tabletop and Lore side which will give you some Knowledge like what is a titan by definition
To keep in mind the cannon that’s mounted to Oberon is what they use on some of the ships in space if there is a big problem. Using it in atmosphere on a titan is beyond overkill.
Hold onto your teeth, people!
The mechs that you thought were dreadnoughts @1:09:40 were in fact titans. The small one is a Warhound scout class titan (the smallest kind), with the larger ones being Warlord class (only thing bigger then them is an Emperor class titan like Stormherald).
No, there are others bigger than the Warlord, like the Warmaster class.
@ your right, I honestly forget about those since they’re a newer type compared to Warlords, Reavers, and Warhounds
Imperator-class Titan: *peaks around the corner*
😱
A Dreadnaught would only reach a Warhound's knees if it was squatting.
This makes me smile.
Even in the Grimdark humans can still find hope and joy. We must never lose that light.
The Clarity of the Animation reflects the Clarity of Grimaldus’ mind, conviction, and determination. To “upgrade” the previous animation would actually affect the story because it reflects the mental state of Grimaldus.
It actually needs to be that way. Which is kinda genius.
Grimaldus is a named character with a dedicated tabletop mini. Those do not die often.
(in response to the opening) NO! No vidya games for you until you FINISH YOUR 40K MOVIE! Hop to it mister content creator! (j/k)
If you love Salamanders, watch Pariah Nexus, from Warhammer+. The main character is a Salamander.
I always chuckled to think what Dorn would say to Primus criticizing being defensive.
Dorn would have so much to say about Black Templars he'd end up speechless.
Every time I hear primus with one arm left saying, GRIMALDUS, BROTHER. Makes me tear up everytime
I've watched this a few times, as a complete movie, I don't think it's ever been bettered. The animator got a job from GW off the back of this.
From what I have heard the animation is represented from Grimaldus's mental state and memory so he feels more alive and remembers the battles more clearly than the other stuff.
Ah yes Helsreach~ my introduction into 40k and the reason the Black Templars are my favorite space marine chapter!
Angels of death is another series similar to this one that would be nice to see you react to. It follows a squad of Blood Angels. Really nice stuff.
The awakening too!
I’m sure someone mentioned but the animation was always this, it just had a filter on it to make it look hand drawn, representing grimaldus mind in disarray before calming in battle
So that meteor was an Ork rock basically they strap a bunch of rockets and boosters onto an asteroid and send them into planets, this specific rock was sent to destroy hive city Hades which the orks failed to take during the second war of Armageddon, also Oberon or otherwise ordinatus Armageddon is a main weapon on a space ship used to destroy ships and burn planets with exsterminatus, to give to an idea of how over powered this weapon is they basically took a navy battleship main canon and put it onto a tank.
Also grimaldus has an official model as well.
Orks absolutely have Titans. They're known as Gargants, and they're constructed as idols to the Orks' gods, Gork (who is cunningly brutal) and Mork (who is brutally cunning). Whenever a large enough group of Orks get together and start getting restless, the Mekboyz - Ork engineers and scientists - start having dreams that lead them to start building Gargants, whether the regular ones, the larger Great Gargants, or the colossal Mega-Gargants, which are similar in size to an Imperator Titan like Storm Herald.
During the Third War for Armageddon, the Orks deployed over a hundred Gargants of various sizes, classes, and configurations to the planet.
Also worth noting: Grimaldus has an actual official model you can use ingame. He's a special character for the Black Templars. He goes into battle with 3 special relics of that temple that his brothers died fighting in.
If you thought this was good, wait till you listen to the audio book and find out about the 9 odd hours that got cut out of this ;) Sooooooooooooo much more
Hellsreach grips u, the story is so good, and the emotions so high that even years from now u can hear "hero of helsreach!" And still get chills
Great reaction, you're not the only one who got emotional. In the book Andre meets Grimaldus on the Black Templars ship in orbit. Their interaction continues until Grimaldus tells Andre if he doesn't leave, he's going with the Black Templars. Keep up the great work brother!
Even though I've watched Helsreach about ten times already, I always share a tear, in the same place as you. You shouldn't be ashamed of sincere tears at such dramatic moments. It shows that you have an empathic soul and a kind heart. Thank you for such a great reaction. It was a pleasure to share such moments/memories with you, peace to your home.
I honestly died laughing when the ork gargant’s head turned “WOW dat wuz so klose”
I would definitely recommend looking up the miniature for Grimaldus, because it is amazing. Bear in mind, after he pulled himself from the rubble of the basilica, he wound up saving some relics from it, and those are the servitor minis that come with him, each one carrying something of sacred importance.
The quality/amount of color in Helsreach mirrors Grimaldus's emotional state. At the beginning of the story, Grimaldus is struggling with depression and survivors guilt and so the animation is very black and white. As the story progresses and he begins to move past his guilt, the animation gains clarity and color is introduced. By the climax, Grimaldus has come to terms with his grief and the animation reflects this; but then his squad is killed in front of him, the depression and survivors guilt returnand the animation returns to back and white to showcase this.
I prefer the interpretation of the general mood of the final, heart-wrenching last stand within the temple in the Helsreach fan-made movie than the novel. In the novel, in true Templar fashion, there's almost a sort of insane levity, what with Artarion laughing his final words and Grimaldus echoing that. I can see why people would approve of either interpretation, but I prefer the movie's. The tone is far more somber and heart-breaking, as it should be, I think.
The Black Templars are known for the incredible zealotry that most rears its head in moments that would make most consider a retreat. Their attrition rates are atrociously high. Dying gloriously on the field of battle, against overwhelming odds is seen as the highest honor...as it should be. I feel sometimes it's portrayed with almost too much levity, though. The Helsreach movie did it right; it showed us something far more somber. It showed us that even amongst warriors who see a violent death as an inevitability, who feel no fear, who seek to burn twice as brightly still experience the pain of loss...and it is crushing. Not only that, the deaths of squad Grimaldus all showed their true, beautiful and terribly honest, colors at the end.
Nero, a competent apothecary and warrior no doubt, was far more prone to outbursts of emotion, especially grief. Amongst Templars, one might call him soft...I think he was simply the most human. Within meek, gentle Nerovar beat the heart of defiance; as he was hoisted onto a spear by his midriff, he pulled himself down lower upon the spear whilst still being impaled...and for what purpose? So that, in a final act of defiance and raw courage, he could stab his killer and take him down with him. In his final moments, we see gentle Nero shine brighter than all as a true warrior. For such a death Bell of Lost Souls upon Holly Terra will rang and the Emperor drop a single tear, embracing another soul of His finest.
Priamus was young, proud, haughty, and immensely talented. Quick to anger, quick to misinterpret. Proud to a fault, he refused to show weakness; arrogance was his default trait, though it did not come from a place of malice. In his final moments, the overwhelming pain of missing a limb, amongst a myriad of other injuries, finally showed in his voice. It was heart-wrenching. "They're bringing the temple down!" is said with such desperation, yet he continues to fight. The implacable pain of witnessing the brutalizing of his battle-brother Nerovar and the futility of trying to save him is palpable in his delivery when he cries "Nero!" Not least though, is when Priamus, finally succumbing to fatigue, takes a blow across his face and falls to his knees. In his final moments, proud and boastful Priamus looks towards his brother-chaplain and says "Grimaldus...brother." with such pain and trembling voice, the rest of the scene I watched through blurred vision. In his final moments, despite being a zealous Templar, despite knowing he would die violently, despite a lifetime of battle, despite knowing that his death in glorious battle would earn him a place beside the Emperor of mankind...he wished only for the comfort and presence of one of his brothers. He did so much, yet so little. He didn't want to die alone. None shall find him wanting.
Artarion...dependable, sturdy Artarion. I don't have nearly as much to say, but it doesn't soften the blow any less. Banner bearer of Squad Grimaldus. Stalwart. Gruff. A pillar of strength, to be sure. In his final moment, before decapitation, he looked towards his brother, Grimaldus, and somberly said goodbye. He was going towards the Emperor's light, he was saved...his honor and his memory intact. He was to die a warrior's glorious death against impossible odds; this is akin to the holy grail, practically, for Black Templars. Yet, still, in his final moments, he laments having to be separated in life from his brother. The sheer weight of loss sets itself upon him so solidly, he cannot hide it when he says "Goodbye, brother." Perhaps he knew. Perhaps he knew that he alone would die and Grimaldus would live. Maybe his deep, audible pain was in knowing, in feeling that somehow Grimaldus would live. That wherever Artarion was going now, in the afterlife, Grimaldus will not follow...not for an agonizingly long time. And so he grieved because he would miss his brother, simply put, and Grimaldus would miss him. How soberingly human.
Were I Grimaldus, I don't think I would have wanted to survive, either. The pain of living through that may very well dwarf whatever temporary pain he would have felt from death.
The final guilt of living, he must bear it like a mantle, like a scar on his heart - until the Emperor call his soul too.
"The Hero of Helsreach...as if there was only one." - none could say better.
"What's that symbol on the ground?"
Adeptus Mechanicus.
The last stand at the temple hits like a hammer every time. The aftermath, with Andre and the empty Thunderhawk are bittersweet reminders of what was lost. Helsreach is a perfect example that 40k is the story of The Long Defeat of humanity, not its triumph. And it hurts. So much is lost, and yet to be lost - but it will one day be lost. In 40k, Humanity as a whole fights for just one more day. But the last day will dawn, and those bright moments that came to that point will be lost. Helsreach reminds you of that, in what you mourn. So, don't be ashamed of that emotion. Its the whole point.
NO PITY! NO REMORSE! NO FEAR!
DeeBeeGeek needs to watch a video about the different titans. I swear if I hear him mix up titain and dreadnaught again im gonna go on my own crusade 😂
Hi there ! Someon already told you in another comment under the previous episodes but the animation style variations is voluntary : the further we are from the time of narration, the sketchier and blurrier it is, as in Grimaldus' memories. When we are at present time, at the very moment the action takes place, or a more vivid memory (some memories are clearer than others even though they are further back in time), the animation is more precise, more coloured and more acurate ;) So in the end, when Grimaldus recollects an old memory, it gets sketchy again ;)
I,was told that it doesn't reflect his memory but his attitude, in the beginning he's dealing with the death of his mentor and his belief that he'll never measure up to mordred, then it gets clearer as he hits his stride and starts winning little victories, then at the end he's wracked with survivors guilt and returning doubt.
@@eXpriest Aaah, interresting ! It could be I suppose. But one is not incompatible with the other : we could say that his most traumatic memories, wether they be old or recent, are represented by the rougher sketchy look. And there is also the fact that some sequences are shown from another person's PoV and he is not even present (Storm Herald's fall for instance), so theses sequences are portrayed in a more "neutral" style...
Warhammer+ has brought on the animators, it's why the Angels of Death animations are done the way they are.
Origins, the first episode, was free on TH-cam until very recently.
There are animated series by Games Workshop. They have multiple Warhammer series but I recommend watching their three episode mini series called Pariah Nexus and The Tithes.
1:34:03 - Yessir, in spite of his adamant conviction. Hence his mental state (and thus the animation) is all fucky-wucky.
30:20 THAT is the sound of one pissed off Titan Machine Spirit!
I know you have some confusion in this but at 1:09:40 you see a warhound Titan the smallest of the Titans then you see 2 warlord Titans which are the second biggest and of course the main Titan we see throughout the whole movie is called an emperor class the largest of them. These are three of the four Titan classes the final being the Reaver class which is not shown in Helsreach. Also for more clarification a dreadnought is specifically from a chapter meaning whenever you see one they will have their chapter's iconography on them. And they're probably two and a half Space Marines tall. They're not that large when put right next to a Titan.
Conflict between chapters on the same team - look up Marine's Malevolent, they had a... disagreement with the Salamanders too in this war. Really highlights how different chapter can be.
1:09:38 what is up with him mixing up dreadnaughts and titans 😂
Love him, but he do need to learn 'bout the difference between Dreadnaughts, Knights and Titans
36:57 - Like we've said, this is one of the greatest stories we have. Right up there with this, in its own way, is The Last Church.
I genuinely think this should be made into a movie or TV should Amazon manage to get their deal with Games Workshop to work and start a franchisie.
As many has said, the animation is related to clarity of memory and also depression.
Fun facts.
The Chapter at the start with wolf symbol isnt the Space wolfs, is the shadow wolfs chapter. This chapter only appears in this book and the reason behind this is that the wife of Aaron, the writter, at that time was reading about the Luna Wolfs and Sons of Horus legion, and she loved the Luna wolfs and its loyalty, Aaron being the gentleman he is, created the Shadow Wolfs specialy for his wife as a love letter to her.
The couple that kissed, both survived the battle.
Andre lived enough to see once again Grimaldus and be funny and friendly towards him.
I another part of the war, Grimaldus fought along side the last meme er of another Chapter, Ekebe Dubaku from the Celestial Lions, they are like african culture in a way.
Oberon is an ordinance destined to the world of Armaggedon for its defense, was urried and forgotten because never recived the sanction of the ad. Mech. making it almost Heresy and traitorous in a way its usage. All important words have a ordinance like this but they vchange in a way, they are handcrated for that specific world.
The pilot of the Thunderhawk is none other than the youtuber/streamer Chapter Master Valrak.
"It's red, and black?"
It's Collegia Titanica. Part of the Adeptus Mechanicus. it's their two most common colors.
1:01:03 This was actually not about tactics. Thing is about orks is that they believe that the big boss knows best & his is the strongest. If you kill orks' warlord all troops fall into dissaray.
Or maybe not. It depends if they really kill actual warlord and not Nob who leads offensive. Or maybe next Nob in line is a lot more cunning and smarter which makes it worse.
Plus whole WAAGH thing that makes orks work in sync as one organism and that was one of biggest WAAGH so orks were incredibly coordinated.. They really need to kill Gaz to get real effect, not local boss. That would've stopped war instantly.
That said, killing warlord is good strategy on for smaller conflicts against orks. It's what imperium does on ork infested worlds from time to time if i'm not mistaken.
@@SapFeaRon You're true Master of Tactics brother Sapfearon
@@tikhonoldwood3800 what makes moment of grimaldus shittalking salamander funny, is that guy probably same rank or even higher then him. That's looks like first company(firedrakes), and since guy is in charge of 70 marines that's 1st company captain then.
So grimadlus managed to shittalk first company veteran Captain from founding legion....While grimaldus is just...high chaplain of splinter chapter.
Like if you kill a Sangheili and all their Grunts and Jackals panic and scatter
Something really cool to note about Grimaldus' tabletop model is that the servitors with him are carrying relics from his final battle in Helsreach. One of them is even carrying part of the temple itself. XD
Complete Space marine operations mode ??? 2nd campaign has badass boss fights highly recommend if you liked the main campaign itself
1:08:29 the Order of the Argent Shroud is my favorite order of sisters. Their whole stick is that they are shock troops who move in quickly with overwhelming firepower, and fight in complete silence. They unitize transports such as Rhinos, Immolators (tanks with stained glass turrets such as heavy flamers, multi-Meltas, and heavy bolters), and Repressors( Up armored Rhinos with heavy flamers and a siege shield) to rush across the battlefield.
Most iconic units being Seraphim, sisters with jump packs that duel wield bolt pistols, hand flamers, or inferno pistols( Melta pistols)and Dominions whom are battle sisters with special weapons such as Storm Bolters( two boltguns strapped together), Flamers, and Melta Guns.
Their patron Saint, Silvana was one of Alicia Dominica’s bodyguards back when the church had a corrupt Ecclesiarch. They fought against multiple space marine chapters to a stand still until the Custodes intervened and convinced the sisters that their Ecclesiarch was corrupt. Which then lead to Dominica executing him. Btw please react to If The Emperor Had a Text-To-Speech Device cause they show this bit and it’s 100% word for word what happened.
Afterwards Silvana would die before starting a crusade. Her body covered in a silver veil until one day her body disappeared, leaving only her veil with an imprint of herself. This is where the name of the order, the Argent Shroud, gets its name.
TLDR Silvana started her own order, The Argent Shroud, with their main idea being “Deeds are louder then words,” as they will fight in complete silence until the mission is complete with overwhelming force.
Hero of helsreach as if there was only one...god why dose this hit so hard!
Andrej is the goat he gets a lot more focus in the book
Andre is peak Guardsman.
12:00 He didn't react at all, but I was dying of laughter.
Strange, seems like they added a bunch of new music since I watched this.
Check the book 'Blood and Fire' where Grimaldus meet his best pal, CPT Andrej once again.
I also agree that a Souls-like would be great
22:05 - The Orks field a wide and weird variety of vehicles from Killa Kanz to Gargantz in this.
Fun fact, in the book Major Ryken and adjutant Tyro also survived the final battle. Major Ryken was also promoted to Colonel and got mechanical prosthetics to repair his wounded face.
The giant Ork Gargant was appropriately named God Killa
Not a video recommendation, but if you want to see brotherhood on the chaos side of things, I recommend reading or listening to "The Talon of Horus" and "Black Legion" also by Aaron Dempski-Bowden, they cover the founding of the Black Legion and the ideas surrounding Astartes rejecting the concepts of the Emperor and even their own Primarchs.
Black Templars till the day i die for Dorn and the Emperor
1:09:40 Not a dreadnought. Dreadnoughts are the entombed astartes mechs you saw in Space Marine 2, and they only reach 2-3 times the height of a Space Marine.
Then you have mechs like Imperial Knights, which work like titans but on a smaller scale with only one pilot. These range at heights between small and medium buildings.
What you see at this point in the movie is a Warhound Titan, which is one of the "smallest" mechs to classify as a Titan. Faster and more agile than larger titan classes, they usually operate in "packs" or supporting larger Titans that are vulnerable to flanking. Warhounds are roughly double the height of Imperial Knights.
So to go over some small things which the animation doesn’t but also helps for context.
1. The Armageddon Steel Legion (the lads in the gas masks and trenchcoats) are the local imperial guard regiments of Armageddon. They are well known for being one of the few trusted planets allowed to create combined arms regiments within the guard and they are also extremely well known for their mechanised warfare formations - mostly using chimera’s.
If you want an idea of how mechanised specialised these lads are, during both the second and third wars, when the factory’s that produce the local brand of chimera were invaded by orks they were actually mounting them up and using them inside the factory’s as they came off the production line. And how large are these factory’s? They would have known artillery duels within them. Yes artillery duels would be fought inside these places.
- note Andrey is a Steel Legion Elite which are Elite Storm Trooper formation created by taking a mix of high level veterans and troopers from regiments across the world as well as schola cadets. These guys are known as Stormtroopers and are essentially the Elite of the Imperial Guard.
2. If you wish to known about Hades Hive look up the 2nd War for Armageddon. But in short, after the local governor of the planet completely screwed up its defence early on in the 2nd and got that majority of his loyal troops butchered at the Hemlock river, Yarrick essentially blocked him out and took mostly direct control of the guard forces he could and focused them around Hades Hive, completely stalling the Ork invasion there and refusing to let the city fall. As such when the Astartes elements finally arrived to relieve them, Hades Hive became the great place of the Orks first failed invasion and Gazgul knew this as such destroyed it early during the 3rd War to prevent its use to Yarrick and as a symbol of morale to the people.
- if you want to known what happened to that governor. Let’s just say he comes back in the third… to help the orks, but his fate is left up to the Last Chancers (good set of books to read, essentially the Imperial Guard version of the Dirty Dozen)
3. You actually semi-seemed to understand/catch what was happening with Princepts Zarhar before and when she was claimed but I can illuminate more.
A princepts besides essentially being the primary human pilot of the Titan with the moderati helping managed and coordinate the titans systems with her own actions, the Princepts essentially is more than just the pilot, they essentially become the titans second soul.
Like the Mechanicus likes to say, the Machine Spirit is an actual thing, and when a Princepts melds themselves with a Titan for the first time they are essentially melding themselves with the soul of said Titan (alongside the soul of every other burned up princepts before them). They are essentially the human element that helps keep the titans own soul from completely doing what it wants. And that is how Princepts die. As the Titan and them age they are essentially fighting a battle of domination, and sadly the titans machine spirit has much more life to it than its human competitors. As such over time the Titans own soul will slowly consume the Princepts throughout the years and battles, each scar ever bonding them closer together until eventually…. The Titan just takes that last bit.
Most moderati and operators of a Titan will understand when its starting to get worse and happen, as like shown the blend of the Princepts and machine start becoming very notable and indistinguishable - and as even noted, sometimes the Princepts isn’t even in control always, sometimes the machine takes control too especially after/during extended battle and campaigns of heavy fighting, going berserk itself against the enemies fighting it as if an animal unleashed.
Sometimes a Princepts can wrestle back control after such an event, with the Machine Spirits own blood craving satisfied. However, a lot of the time this is when a Princepts will be lost and usually the Titan too as they will usually be lost in such battles.
- and yes Grimaldus essentially called Zarhar back from the dead.
4. So Ork titans come in a few classifications like the Imperiums but much simpler too.
Their mini-titans in equivalent to imperium super heavy tanks like the baneblade or around the size/strength of a war hound scout titan (the baby one you saw) are known simply as Stompa’s.
The larger ones above that on equal with Riever and Warlord Titans are known as Gargants.
And the big one you saw fighting Stormhearld, a Super Gargant.
As for how do they make them. Well as you saw in episodes 6 and 7 orks don’t land troops on the planet in nice and orderly fashion. Nope they just crash said ships onto surface. Yes a few millions orks die. But they’ll get than back by tomorrow. However, said strap from said ships can now be used to create all the vehicles and machine shops and equipment orks would need for a war by their mek-boys.
And as you properly known/have heard, orks don’t need stuff to run for it to run. If they believe it works it works.
4.5. When it comes to the Titan Legions there are essentially 4 main types of titans and a couple more specialist ones I can’t remember.
But the main 4 are:
Warhound Titan - scout titans. Will work in pairs and will usually help to either support larger titans within the legion or will be used to scout for enemy Titan formations ahead of the larger ones. Warhound are usually also the most numerous amongst a legion. Think 2 of them for every Reiver Titan
Riever Titans - the middle ground between the Warlord and Warhound. Best could be dear as the trooper Titan. Essentially your basic line Titan. More numerous than others, think 1 of these for ever 2 warhounds.
Warlord Titan - a proper good war titan. These are heavily armed and quite bulky and pack a punch and can take one. Not as rare as Emperator Titans but also quite rare themselves. Think one of these for every 2-3 Reiver Titans.
Emperator Titans - the largest and most powerful of all Titans. They come in many different shapes and forms but all of them are extremely powerful. To have one within a legion is quite the statement.
You will usually find maybe 1 Emperator Titan for every 3-4 Warlord Titans in a Legion. Maybe.
- and to note when it came to Zarhar herself portion of her own legion, I think it’s noted she had around 25-28 titans at the start. When they left they had around 5-6 left.
Goodbye, Brother. Yo D can we get a joytoy marine on that shelf behind you now?
And by the way, no, it was not a dreadnought : it was a Warhound Reconnaissance Titan. The smallest class of Titans, bigger than Imperial Knights, and so much bigger than dreadnoughts. Operated by three crew (one princeps, a moderati and a helmsman typically) and maintained by one techpriest and a few servitors in the back section. ;)
If you want more, watch Angels of Death. Same people who did Helsreach, except with more budget, runs on Unreal engine instead of Source FIlm Maker, and multiple voice actors (the one who did Grimaldus also voices the Blood Angel chaplain), animation is still about the same in how rough it looks but the voice acting is *chefs kiss* and the story is still pretty interesting. Unfortunately its only available on WarhammerTV, along with some other Warhammer animations, but its not too expensive and you can binge watch all the shows in a month, if you plan on doing one month full of Warhammer stuff.
Ork titans are referred to as Gargants and are gigantic piles of cobbled together scrap that make even imperial titans look small. Look up the "big 'ed bossbunka" which is an actual model GW sells - that is, for all intents and purposes, the head of an Ork gargant, and it is the size of a building just by itself, it's used ingame as a fortification/terrain piece.
at the beginning of the show, grimaldus said he would die on hellsreach, as the story progressed the animation became better and better to show he truly began to change and care about the people who in the beginning he wanted nothing to deal with and after he survive in the end it all return as it started. Grimaldus was right, he died in that planet and came out as another person
Salamanders defend civilians and guardsmen.
Black Templars view normal civilians as military obstructions.
I think you would enjoy the all Guardsmen party a warhammer 40K DND game where all the players are …… guardsmen.
1:09:30 no that a titan a warhound titan the smallest class of titan
Well theres certainly more than enough conflict between chapters if thats what you want lol. Obviously not mentioning Heretics vs Loyalists, theres also cases where two loyalist chapters fight eachother. Loyalist chapters have even completely wiped other loyalist chapters out on rare occasions
If you want emotional grimdark 40k...Gav and Bob.
Also anything else on Vox in the Void is highly recommended!!
1:07:57 E-clee-si-arc, if that helps at all
The animation doesn't contain the scene in the basilica before the attack when Grimaldus walks among the refugees and a girl stops him. Highly recommend everyone to read the book.
If you looks at the Thunderhawk in Space Marine 2, the dual heavy bolter turret on the wing has "No Pity! No Remorse!" written on it.
which is a Black templar thing, not an Ultramarines thing 😉
"No Pity! No Remorse! No Fear!" as Grimaldus shouts in the final fight.
The black and white hazy animation in the first episodes is meant to represent the boring and colorless life of Black Templars when they are not at war.
as the fight starts, color and beauty start showing, and it becomes clearer and more beautiful as the warriors do what they are meant to do...
Fight and Die for the Emperor.
that's also why it returns to black & white haziness when the fight is done.
I love the way you are slowly working your way through my youth lol. First Zelda, then 40k
A souls-like from the perspective of an Aeldari or Ynarri would be pretty cool.
@ Deebeegeek 1:10:03 that’s a scout titan
I am ashamed to say I hadn't seen Hellsreach till now, it was fantastic. Thanks DeeBee for doing this one.
The Last Church is one you need to do next, also fantastic
Artarion is an absolute chad holding the banner, fighting one-handed while attracting all the aggro. And when they all start dropping like flies, every death is a knife to the gut.