Power your House in a Blackout with The Anker SOLIX F3800! It does 240V!!!
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- Can the Anker SOLIX F3800 Power a 2400sqft HOME in a Power Outage??? Lets Find Out!!
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0:00 - Intro
1:15 - Overview & Specs
4:43 - Connecting to House
7:16 - Pot of Coffee
8:12 - Microwave
8:45 - Toaster and Microwave
9:24 - Saw & Air Compressor
11:46 - Run a 4 Ton AirCon?
14:10 - 240v Dryer
14:49 - 240v Stove
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18:32 - Outtakes
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This would have cost 10k at least a year ago.
It’s scary how fast this market is moving.
I love it 😊
In a couple years everyone will have a power plant in their house.
I'm buying this come Black Friday 2024. I can only imagine how quickly these will sell then. It's March 2024, and they're selling them for $ 2999. I'm hoping for $ 2500 to pick up one. Love the video.
I love the real world test you did on this thing … I’m looking for a solar generator (or just a battery backup) to power our house during outages. I also love the Happy St Patrick’s Day towel on the oven door along with the Christmas decorations 🤘👍
That's AMAZING! Thanks for sharing!
I don't know if I was more excited for the review or the fact that you already have up winter/Christmas decorations! I am decorating this weekend! Thanks for all your hard work on these videos!
Lol well either way I appreciate the watch🤠 Yeah the wife started the second November started lol 💥
As always great content and thanks for sharing this with us
Thanks Man and Thanks for watching!🤘
Great review bud. You earned your keep by doing a very thorough job. Very informative.
Excellent video thanks for sharing
Excellent, fun review!! Great information.
Thanks for testing that out. You've saved me a lot of time!
Thanks for watching!🤘
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Thanks for Watching!💥🤘
People could also think about dual-use of a new clean metal can to store stuff in, but secondarily, use it as an EMP protector of small devices in your house or mobile locations with EMP protection tightly sealed with no openings.
Great stuff man.
Thanks Man!💥🤘
That's a lot of money for this small system !
Like# 239 - Thx for serving this Veterans Day! Love me some Anker!
Thanks Man! Appreciate that!💥🤘🇺🇸
Awesome video Anker are really upping there game. With the add on battery packs that’s allot of power⚡️
Love the addition of the cat!
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Good job love your videos 😊
Thank You!🤠
Love the way you showed in real-time how much each major appliance consumed. In a real power outage with that interlock I’d be concerned that the water heater or AC would come on when not wanted and drain the battery quickly. This is why I have a transfer switch to have more control.
Thanks! That is why I love to do this type of video because its real! With the generator interlock, you are making your panel the "transfer switch" so you can have all the control and turn the AC and loads off you want. I also have a small critical loads transfer switch panel that Ill use in another video. That is my oh shit critical loads panel lol
@@AveRage_Joe ok I get it now. You just manually flip off the water heater etc in an outage. I’m getting a FranklinWH soon and it can shed two 220 or four 110 loads. I have a transfer switch now and it can stay around with the FranklinWH so it will be interesting to see how I use both. Options.
What receptacle did you use below the panel to hook up the anker ?
PERFECT video demonstration. I was looking at EcoFlow Delta Pro Ultra and it also produces 120/240V. Can't wait to get both and test them out.
Titan also makes the SP240, 240v 4000w and 120 v can run on all batteries, hi volt charge ac/solar, lighter,cheaper, more versitile. You should check it out
@@dustydawson8977 will surely check them out. Thanks for pointing it out.
I really like this unit, but the solar voltage 60V cap per input is a little off putting. But this thing is in the realm of what I have been looking to find for our whole home solution for a significant outage duration here in Hawaii.
Holy Crap! That thing is an anchor! Huge capacity!
That’s cool it could handle everything you threw at it.
It honestly did better then I thought it would. The 240v output is amazing to have.
Good to see the details for use!!! Started at 6 hours up time and with just a few test items the run time was down to just minutes. It is really good to plan a backup. Example - the battery would run any one of the items but in the end it would do 10 - 15 cycles of the microwave or about two cycles on the AC unit!!
Checkout one of my last videos doing a simulated blackout. Gives a better example th-cam.com/video/dxy89Mlsph0/w-d-xo.html
Thanks. Have been filtering through a few others @@AveRage_Joe
I hit like as soon as the TWSS line hit. *Boom*
Thanks Man! 100% Appreciate that!💥🤘
That thing is a horse. Good job!👍🐴
I’m looking at the Delta Pro Ultra with separate inverter and separate battery.
Holy cow! Really thoroughly explained... Thanks for taking the time, man... Don't know if you mentioned it, but can it run the house appliances while charging the station at the same time?
Thanks for sharing, Joe! Love your sweet living room, and yeah Kitten doesn't need any electric power haha
Battery powered cat🔋🐈⬛😆
Very slick! It's just a little bit bigger than the C1000 I just looked at... 😁
Thanks for sharing!
It is slick! I still need to watch your vid!🤠
@@AveRage_Joe it’s nothing like your unit. Gotta get them to send me one of those… 😁
You need to balance your 120 V loads as although the inverter is 6000 watts (at 240 VAC), it will not run 6000 watts to a single leg of 120 VAC. So, if you want to run the saw and the air compressor at the same time, put one on L1 and the other on L2.
Actually, I suspect they *were* on different branches, and starting the saw caused the Solix to drop the opposite branch (with the compressor). Just by coincidence the lights were on the same branch as the saw.
The compressor stopped completely (wasn't a power sag) so I bet that branch dropped to 0V for a few seconds; if the saw was on the same branch it would have stopped accelerating.
Hi Joe!!!
Nice that you had the opportunity to test this new Anker SOLIX F3800!!!
This thing is going to set the bar pretty high for the rest of the manufacturers!!!
If Anker can get this thing to charge from solar with with higher voltaje and amperage... it will be THE BEAST !!!
Keep up the good work!!!
See ya !!! 👋👋
Yeah its a pretty sweet unit. 100% agree, if they could tweak the solar input voltage that would be ideal. Its doable if you use it as a portable but higher would be best for home use!🤘
If 3.8 kw of power means the bar is set high, i don t know what to tell you..
It s a nice toy, but that s about it, usability wise
Well, it’s already had the 2400w solar panel input while output 240V, if that is what you mean
Looks like a good unit to test.
Its actually a Fan Freakin Tastic unit. MPPT voltage could be higher but over all pretty sweet!
@@AveRage_Joe Wish I was good enough to review something. Last thing I did was a cheap 3d printer. I gave it away after I build it. To a kid whose bedroom got burn down. Just like help people.
Thanks for all the details. Regarding UPS functionality. Can it run like a true UPS i.e. set it up and forget it to provide power to essential items? I want to use it as a UPS for my home network and my aquarium. I tried this with the Ecoflow delta pro and it just shuts off power output after running for a few weeks. Happened twice with 2 separate units. EF support eventually told me I have to "do maintenance" and drain the battery once a month for it to work as a UPS, this of course is not ideal.
Hi Joe, great video. I have a 10k btu air conditioner I use in my bedroom in the summer, how many hours do the Anker can power it assuming that the Air Conditioning is the only thing connected to it! Thanks
Just to let you know, the Zendure superbase v also has a 240 volt output. I want to say they were the first to do that. It also has a motor for the wheels so you can drive it around like a very slow rc. This one might be better.
I just recieved what you mention😲🤫
I thought the same thing Zendure did do this first
Wouldn't every single one of these devices sold in Europe have a 240 volt output as well?
@@mrniceguy6050 technically yes, but it is different from American 240 volt outlets.
Yeah the EU version would have the correct output for the location.
Nice, though I do wish the MPPT charger had a higher max voltage. That's the one limit most of these units have, even upping it from 60 volts to 100 or 120 volts would be a nice improvement, especially since it can take up to 2400 watts. Price wise its very nice as well.
Yeah the MPPT voltage is low. I wonder if they did that to stay in the "portable" solar market or RV market. Seems they always use 12-24v panels. 2400watts isnt bad tho. I wanted to try that so bad but its been so damn cloudy here plus Id have to go on the roof and rewire everything🙄🤷♂️
@@AveRage_Joe What about those two ground mount arrays? Even if it's only for a hour or so. Easier to rewire too... you'll have to parallel everything of course. Just showing how many panels you will have to wire in parallel to get to 2400 watts would be interesting all by itself.
I feel your pain on the clouds, took a couple weeks to get some good clear sky to do the testing I did with the bougerv mppt controller. Come on sky, we are trying to do reviews here, help us out! haha 🤣🤣
I was going to do that with the ground mount panels BUUUUUUT as I was headed out there I remembered those panels have a VOC of 68v......🤦♂️🫠😄
Great video, can I use my Electric truck 110v outlet to charge the Solix simultaneously its powering the house???
Not sure if I am missing something here, if normal electrics are lost, how long can this Anker Solix supply the house with electricity before it requires charging again, I would have thought you would have included this info.
Pop the cover is it well made and how is the battery management handled?
What?! that's one big power right there..
It is and I Like it!😄🤘
all the things that you showed to hook up the unit to the house.... What if we don't have those things, the cable, the 50 watt hookup and that switch in the electric panel.... Just use the regular outlets to supply the fridge, tv, computer etc.?
Really nice review! Anker looks to be a serious contender in this market
Thank You! They are and this power station is one of my favorites!🤘
I like the concept but the MPPT controller needs to accommodate at least 150 volts. Higher would be better to make it a serious home backup system.
100% agree. It should be at least 150v.....120v at the lowest. I am wondering if they did it this low to keep the RV/camper/Van people since its easy to use 12v panels. I dont actually no tho
Hopefully, Anker can update the app to show the actual capacity in KWh besides the percentage and remaining hours.
These power generator is good for RV, just wait coming to my country, only option got now Blue etti
I find solar and portable power to be very interesting. My father Inlaw was going to help with us going with solar panels but they to me would do no good as our roof would have to be replaced . Plus if power went out we would still have no power anyway. To buy enough batteries for the house as well would cost so much money that it just does not make it worth it. Now with just with one of these units there is no way to power the whole house . Anything that you plugged it that used a decent amount of power reduced the time running to nothing worth while . It would require tieing in a few together. Costing to much money to be worth it . This one seems to be rather expensive to others i have seen reviewed .
It is also more important to see how these work as they are not all the same and each one has each owns pros and cons. I will look more into your channel if you go into detail on the details of any of these units . I watch another channel where they break down these units in simple detail and show why or why not it is recommended . These would be best used with a few easy to set up solar panels. Important that these generators are able to accept a fast charge through solar to be viable .
Interesting video. Will check out more of your videos.
great vid hope this chan blows up
The problem with the battery UPS is it might be good for a few hours but if you lose power for a couple days your back to square 1
I would be interested in a discussion of product cost plus installation of a unit like described in the video vs. a Generac unit running off of propane or natural gas.
I think right now if I had Natural gas piped to my home I would do the Generac and never have to worry about charging after a few hours.
A generator is a must have in my book. A propane or NG would be a great option! I have a 5kw diesel generator for the times we have no grid, no sun and batteries are dead! I would suggest gas being the 3rd option of the three.
How about running the condition n the laundry same time , does it run just by the power bank ?
I’m adding a second comment here Joe you need to get an engine lift for when you’re picking up stuff. For the price it would be a back changer. And when you’re putting stuff on the wall you can move stuff around and lift it up to the wall. Andy in Australia 🇦🇺 got one.
I 100% need to get one. Maybe a christmas gift🤔 or maybe sooner lol
I also need to move that diesel generator🙄😆
The real practical question is not what can it run, rather, how long can it run it ? What good is it to be able to run an oven if you can only do so for 24 minutes ? Obviously, this solar genny has a great inverter system in it, but if you're really going to do home backup properly, then you probably should get two of these units with at least 1 external battery for each unit and parallel connect them for better capacity. Bridge connecting will allow you to connect enough external solar to each unit to greatly counteract your drain rate while on full blown house backup mode. Charge all Day and drain all Night. The average household will consume 3.5 Kw just cooking diner alone in the evening, whereby your house lights are on, your oven and stove are in use, and you're opening the fridge allot.
100% correct. In a full blown outage you would run minimal items. If you add another in parallel along with another battery or 2. You could have a really sweet backup system.
Sweet, it reminds me of the Bluetti system… which made me question my sanity after I saw the price. 😱😳
So… in summary one of these could allow you in the summer to cook lunch and cool your house for less than an hour. Still love it, but here in Texas we have outages that last days. I’m wondering how many spare battery packs I would need. 😳🤯
If you could use it for a whole house UPS, that would be even better. But the passthrough power would have to support a lot more than 7200 watts. That would be the next level of solar generators. They do keep getting better though.
Yeah it would be sweet if the passthrough was that much! I think they have another system coming out that is more of a wall mount that will do it all!
Just wondering if the control for overload is a voltage drop as compressor came back on so it may be hard on computers stuff if you overload it. Great review I may even look into buying one it solves a lot of problems for a short time lol.
Sooooo......a few others pointed out it was my bad. I had both plugged in basically to the same leg. If I would have used both legs from the unit, it probly would have done it just fine.
Look up the AC 900 blue Eddy, and you should look it up at the beginning of January 2023 or actually, no I was at March of 2023. There were selling a c nine hundred nine thousand Watts generated 120 /240 Direct hooked up to a fuse box no button nine thousand watts solar connect to it.
Excellent video! I'm sure you're right - without the soft start on your HVAC it would have tripped/shutdown the Solix (assuming the wattage initially draws +6000W - the apps usually don't track the spike since it happens so quickly).
Yeah its hard to say. I wanna say I started it with 2 ecoflow delta pros paralleled together before I installed the soft start but cant remember. I may actually do it🤔
Nice review. Dryer, stove burners AND the AC? Kick-@$$ unit. Was the chop saw on leg-1(ups) and the compressor on leg-2? Thanks for sharing
Thanks😀 It is a beast! Sooooo yeah the saw and air comp were on the same leg.........That is my bad. I bet it would do it fine with 1 on each leg🤘
Thanks for a great review. I have been looking for a 240v system... the issue with the induction loads (saw + compressor) is going to be a problem considering it should be able to handle 6000W continuous... it should have been able to handle a compressor + saw.
That test could have been my bad. They were both on the same 20a circuit when I tried it and I didnt even think about it. I could throw a saw and air compressor on the power station and give it a go
@@AveRage_JoeOh! That is an important revelation. Thanks for clearing that up. I think in all fairness, to the company, it would be best to check and please do let us know.
I would hope that people who lose power would not decide to power their whole house A/C. A used window unit, kept in reserve, could be powered by the unit in a pinch. Clothes dryers aren't a necessity, use a clothes line during a crisis, and stoves are best left off, again, a simple propane emergency stove (single or double) and a BBQ grill can be used as a substitute. Fridge is critical, freezers are critical, but use the food up ASAP, ditto with the fridge. Finally, reduce waste by giving a BBQ for neighbors. They'll become life long friends.
Yep 99% of what I showed wouldnt be used in a real outage unless you know its a planned outage. Fridge is a must! My no shit critical loads are 2 fridges, furnace fan and tv room.🤘
Thank u for a real life usage test... i was expecting a battery capacity test
I usually do ALL the tests but ran short on time🙄
Hey Joe I was also wondering you never mentioned how long would it take to recharge from a 400 watt solar panels. That's kind of very important especially if you have lost power for a week or more. More importantly can you slow charge from your solar panel 400 watt as you draw power from you Anker solix f3800 at the same time?
please compare the f3800 to the ecoflow delta pro ultra. trying to decide between the two. thanks for this well done review.
I did just get the delta pro ultra. The ultra is just a bigger unit compared to the f3800. Bigger inverter, bigger battery and has 2 solar inputs. One is 150v and other is 500v. It really depends on the usage. If you want portability(as in taking camping or RV or where ever and bring it back inside), you would want the f3800. The ultra is "portable" but super heavy.
UPS what is the timing that it has. This and the Zendure Superbase 240 has just came out also. It appears the manufacturer is hearing what’s needed. Thanks for the review. This is a good one ☝️
Ill have to look for the ms switch time. I know a laptop without a battery will continue to run. Oh and I just got one of those others you speak of🤫
fooking cool!!!!!!!
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The question is, for how long can it power everything in your house while TVs are playing as well?
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we use north of 80kwh a day
Hey Joe… when you are reviewing these units can you talk about recharging them with a small generator instead of solar panels. I like Anker products. We are in Florida and with extended power outage it would be nice to be able to run our AC for a bit. There is a 50 amp Soft-Start device used for RV’s that is plugged into the power cord and not installed in the AC unit. I wounded if that would work for a residential AC unit? Thanks for all your helpful information. JR
Yeah I could mention using a generator for recharging in a power outage type scnario. Its basically the same as plugging into the wall of your house OR using a dc charger and using the solar input. I havent tried an inline soft start but it would probly help.
Hey Joe I'm just a little confused you used the 50 amp the back feed panel to run your house. But shouldn’t you have used the 30 amp 240 V to backfeed the panel. and if not why. The Math is 6000 W convert to 30 amp to 240v max on a single phase panel. Not sure how 50 amp output comes from a f3800 unit the math doesn't add up
Is there 30amp RV plug in
Watching the A/C take 2% of charge in 1 minute, and the dryer tanking the run time from 2hrs and 40m down to 12 minutes made me chuckle.
Yeah those dryers will make them tank.😄
my gen panel has a 30amp plug is it compatable
Were the air compressor and the chop saw on the same circuit? If so, it would be better to plug each item into a separate circuit. This should allow the air compressor to keep running when the chop saw starts up.
Yeah actually they were on the same circuit. I bet you are right!!!🤘
@@AveRage_Joe Makes me curious if there is a limit on each phase, or can it put out the whole 6000 watts on just one of the two phases. Time to break out the portable heaters :)
Yeah I think its 3k on each but.....will have to break out the heaters😆🤘
How does this compare to the equivalent Ecoflow? Is there any other one that you would recommend? I'm in FL and hurricane season is coming, and I have a 3/2 home with a 4 ton A/C Unit. Looking to find a manual switch over generator like the Anker Solix and later hook up solar to it as well.
I did a comparison video between the F3800 with expansion battery and EcoFlow Delta pro Ultra. Purely going off specs they are close. The ecoflow has better options for solar. Anker is moar portable. Both can start my 4ton AC but I have a soft start on mine.
If you want to power your entire home and use the AC "long term" in an outage, you would need a few expansion batteries on either system.
Excellent video. Thanks! I learned so much off just watching your video.
Thank you and thanks for watching!
How much for this solar panel ?
Where are they built?
Can you charge this power station from a 120 volt inverter generator like a Dual Fuel Champion Invertor Generator, while using the 240 volts from the Anker Solix F3800 power station? I know that I can't charge my two EcoFlow Delta Pros from 120 volt grid power or an inverter generator power when I have the two Ecoflow Delta Pros hooked together for split phase 120/240 volt power. Thanks, great video.
Thanks for watching! This one cannot supply 240v and beable to charge from a 120v source at the same time sadly. I did mention this to Anker in a meeting. I know the ecoflow delta pro ultra can do it.
@@AveRage_Joe Thanks for your reply.
I liked two battery cat 😂😂
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hi amigo nice to see you posting videos i will say the back up nice item but need some work.. for in rush you can see the flicking and the capacity for one unit like this at lest 280ah i know you can add more but to much mula $ for what you can get for the price in other units or options out there.... the idea is ok ,,, but need some work
Hey Man hows it goin? Yeah its pretty sweet. 280ah would be a game changer. Wouldnt be as portable tho🤏🤠
@@AveRage_Joe just a new design heavy duty wells lol justa suggestion . i am glad you power bill low , keep the videos coming... any chance you get a EV to power your home to charge your car or used like backup ....that will be a badass video....
GO JOE!!
How long can it power a 1/2HP Sump Pump which many people want to know for blackout emergencies?
Thats a great question. Since I dont have one, I just went online to see the running watts of a 1/2hp sump pump. It shows around 1050 running watts. If that is true, the pump could run over 3 to 3-1/2hrs. That is straight on and not turning off. If you have the expansion battery then the run time doubles. I have a question since I dont have one. Do sump pumps run for hours at a time or does it run for short amounts of time. If its on/off all the time then the run time will go way up.
Will this handle a 1HP 240v well pump surge? Other items are the usual TVs and computers and whatever lights I would have on at the time. I have a Oil furnace forced hot water and propane gas for cooking and clothes dryer.
Do you know what the watts are of the pump?
@@AveRage_Joe No, but it's either a 1.0 or 1.5HP pump. About 5 years ago I got a quote for the Generac System. It included 11KW peak system. My cooking and cloths dryer are propane. Other than that the usual, Refrigerator, Oil fired furnace with forced hotwarter, TVs and lights.
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Sad how fast the battery drained
Hi, at minimum usage how many days can it last ? Thank you ✨✨🤟✨✨
Id need a little more info for your "minimum usage" term. Give me an example of what you would want to power. Example: A fridge, my fridge can run over 2 days on this.
Great price at $4000 considering every other system I l have looked at cost $7000
I agree! Also for a 5-600 more you can get the expansion battery!🤘
What app are you using?
The anker only holds 3.84kWh ... in order to match or exceed a Tesla Powerwall mk2 (14kWh) you'd need a total of four(4) of them. The prices for both comparable.
Plus this option is portable so you can take it with if you move.
Best review ever. Real life test. Thanks.
Thanks Appreciate that! 🤘
Solar Input is a deal breaker.
Afternoon Joe, guess what I just brought. If you said a solar tester yes.
Lol
I find these big power stations an interesting approach to trade money for thinking. Given the cost, and the weird limitations for solar input, and the lock-in for upgrades, I just don't see this being a good option for me. I'd prefer to wire up my own generic batteries, to the inverter of my choice, and choose appropriate charge controllers for suitable solar input. Oh, and then maybe add some different batteries next year for more storage, and maybe swap inverters in a couple of years to handle bigger loads.
I think I'm covered for transportable stuff...
I purchased a Delta 2 Max last spring to fill most of the portable niche. I can use a 48v battery on the solar inputs to pump in 1000 watts of "expansion."
I also have 200Ah at 24V and a 3kw inverter on a tool cart for "transportable." The battery is split with a big anderson connector so I can swap to 400Ah at 12v and use a smaller inverter for longer, low wattage use.
With all due respect, your entire comment IS the reason why these units are and will be so viable and popular. Remember the rule, people pay for convenience.
So Im confused, not unusual, when did you try to run your whole house???
Can you charge with just using one 200W Solar Panel?
Yeah you could. It would take a while if the battery was low but yes, you sure can.
what happened to DIY Powerwall 2.OH Ep12?
I need to do Ep13🤭 Its all still there😲😉
how did I miss episode 12? is it labeled as 2.0H 12?
Welcome to Europe! We`ve had 240V since... forever.
So you got one for Free like a number of other TH-camr’s,
Correct me if I’m wrong. But if you use nothing but your lights and keep your fridge going, you basically can get two hours out of this unit.
You can get a few more hours then 2. We have led lights so those can run for hours. Fridge could run for about 2 days since its not "on" all the time. My fridge uses an avg of 1.7kwh per day so that gives me more the 2 days but will say 2 to make it easy.
I just received my F3800. Nice and ready to go. But?? I ask Anker Support about charging the powerhouse with my DeWalt generator. My initial concern was the gen puts out 120v 20 amp = 2400 watts. Anker only accepts 1800 and wanted to know if this would be a problem. Watts no problem but the gen is. My gen is not a pure sine wave. Modified sine which almost all gas gens are. So the dilemma is that could damage the unit just like other sensitive electronic. So the question with this new Anker F3800 and your out of power for 3 days and its raining, how do you charge the unit?
Right so I have not tried a modified sine genny so I cant say for sure. My only other suggestion would be to get an AC to DC charger and charge from the AC output from gen to solar input on the F3800. I would shoot for around 60vdc like a 56 to 58.8v lithium charger. Ill look around and see if there are better options.
The generator can supply up to 2400W of power, it does not force 2400W into the load, so if the Anker can only draw 1800W then that is what Anker will draw from the generator, just look at this way, your wall AC outlet in your house can supply up to 120V x 15A = 1800W, so if you plug a 100W lamp into the socket the lamp will draw only 100W the outlet is not going to force 1800W into the lamp.
It is good to have generator with 20% head room above maximum load, I'm not sure the Anker will like to feed with modified sine wave, I would suggest using Inverter generator.