The Hardest Offwidth Crack in Vedauwoo - Forever War

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  • Edelweiss Ropes U.S.A. and Liberty Mountain present Pamela "Shanti" Pack climbing "the hardest offwidth crack" in Vedauwoo, WY...The Forever War 5.13c/d R. Pamela nabbed the first ascent of The Forever War in June of 2012.
    "The Forever War is an 85-foot pitch featuring 20 feet of inverted climbing through a steep roof, followed by overhanging arm-bars capped by 30 feet of 5.12a blue-collar groveling. Despite the two bolts, the route still requires a hefty rack." -Pamela "Shanti" Pack
    Read Pamela's account of the First Ascent on her blog: pamelashantipack.com/2012/06/15/vedauwoo-wy-pretty-damn-offwidth/
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  • @superheatsubcool
    @superheatsubcool 8 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Most Hard cores steer away from hard Off widths, because they are such a nightmare and a damn lot of work! Hats off Pamela, Incredible skill level. Thanks to her sponsors for helping such an incredible athlete.

    • @williamking7765
      @williamking7765 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yep the sponsors mostly only care about sport climbers and boulderers. Alex Honnold and Hazel Findlay are among the few famous professional climbers who are brilliant all rounders.

    • @Soli_Deo_Gloria_.
      @Soli_Deo_Gloria_. 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Ummm no.

  • @alextemus
    @alextemus 8 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Incredible! Man, I'm impressed, That is a sweet crack and Pamela just rocks it!

  • @halenball-vant1772
    @halenball-vant1772 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Incredible route! Awesome, aesthetic line

  • @rustyreynolds4961
    @rustyreynolds4961 11 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I looked this up after watching wide boyz, I am gonna go check this out as soon as I can. This video is shear inspiration!! This climber knows how to do it.

  • @torreyintahoe
    @torreyintahoe ปีที่แล้ว

    I used to work for outward bound doing rock camps in vedawoo. I love that place.

  • @samsonite813ify
    @samsonite813ify 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Vedauwoo is life. Catch me out there every weekend

  • @YnseSchaap
    @YnseSchaap 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    One word : Ludicrous ! what an epic way to tackle a problem

  • @rockclimbdotpro
    @rockclimbdotpro 11 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Yes, we read an article and that was exactly it, she had a couple of head first falls that could have been way worse where she hit the rock below, hence bolts.

  • @iPROxSN1P3x
    @iPROxSN1P3x 9 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Those cams are hilarious

  • @devkkev9066
    @devkkev9066 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    wow.. what an amazing climb.
    have a great day!

  • @simonon-music
    @simonon-music 5 ปีที่แล้ว +44

    Plot twist...what if the cams are normal sized and she is tiny and climbs a hand crack

    • @LuisGonzalez-qp1tp
      @LuisGonzalez-qp1tp 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      sounds just like reality

    • @ralphmunn1685
      @ralphmunn1685 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      What if you put down the bong and be amazed at reality?

  • @bandgeek1321
    @bandgeek1321 12 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Awesome Climb! Its almost comedic how big those CAM's are.

  • @Jmotoslowboi
    @Jmotoslowboi 12 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Fantastic climb. Great job

  • @connergiven89
    @connergiven89 11 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That invert sounds sick Pam, can't wait to get shown wayyyy up in Moab

  • @bighousej316
    @bighousej316 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    JESUS THOSE CAMS ARE HUGE!! What a killer offwidth. And some SICK climbing!

  • @Libertymountainoutdoors
    @Libertymountainoutdoors  11 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Pamela says, "I placed a 9" Valley Giant at the lip of the route. It's the Edelweiss Curve Arc 9.8 -- it's my favorite Edelweiss rope! It's light, handles well and is tremendously abrasion resistant. You will love it!"

  • @adventure4lifeRDH
    @adventure4lifeRDH 11 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    you are an inspiration to all off-width climbers. I agree with steven, wear a helmet so you can keep climbing.

  • @DanieleNozari
    @DanieleNozari 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow l'aggancio di gamba mi mancava, favoloso!
    Wow I missed the attachment of the leg, fabulous!

  • @DrSher
    @DrSher 8 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Holy cow!! Those cams are huge!

  • @kuhl374
    @kuhl374 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    I dont know why people hate off widths so much. They are so goofy and creative to climb. this lady is my hero!

  • @ralfrussel1950
    @ralfrussel1950 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    "Potential to fall head first onto a flake even on toprope."
    Still no helmet. Can somebody explain?

  • @TheNamesChrome
    @TheNamesChrome 11 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This has the makings of a good climbing video. It had a good beginning (intro to the route and its story), a good middle (killer offwidthing), but no end. Did she send it? Where did the name come from? We could use some resolution.

  • @grimlund
    @grimlund 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    It must be the ultimate horror to lead a rout upside down. Holy crap.

  • @karsim83
    @karsim83 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    thanks for the information!

  • @nunooliveira49
    @nunooliveira49 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    awesome line!

  • @karsim83
    @karsim83 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    that is a crazy way to climb!

  • @indigenousphallicsym
    @indigenousphallicsym 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    wow surprised to hear a milonga used for music in a climbing video

  • @TheNamesChrome
    @TheNamesChrome 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yeah, it slows you down... when you slide out of that crack and fall. Not everything is protected by bolt hangers on this route, only that one inverted section.

  • @evanphillipsak
    @evanphillipsak 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    What a total badass.

  • @alexmaness4138
    @alexmaness4138 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love it

  • @bobbypatton4903
    @bobbypatton4903 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    those cams are nearly artist in a way!

    • @rushthezeppelin
      @rushthezeppelin 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Well considering there are only two people (was only one half a year ago) making cams that big in their garages, they really are pieces of art. Look up the newer ones to hit the market, Merlin #8s.

  • @bkbland1626
    @bkbland1626 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    There's a bunch of hard off widths in Vedauwoo. That's kind of the whole place.

  • @Paulmtb
    @Paulmtb 11 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Why put bolts in ? Couldnt you use a few cams

    • @johnnycigar3240
      @johnnycigar3240 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      the crack flares outwards cams wouldn't hold

  • @Mattmillerhahaha
    @Mattmillerhahaha 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    those were some huge cams. good climb!

  • @rustyreynolds4961
    @rustyreynolds4961 11 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Steve, though your concern is appreciated, she states on her blog, "more often than not I can’t fit in the offwidth with a helmet!" As for the misogynistic (christian paternal undertone) Honey, with love...? Unless you are dating her that is not appropriate. If you care to challenge her ability come on over to laramie and I will give you a ride to the climb so I can laugh as you fall out. This professional climber would put you to shame. Same offer goes to anyone else commenting like this.

  • @AlaskaB83
    @AlaskaB83 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    would be hard to impossible to protect that. Maybe with big bros but that might make doing the climb impossible. Vedauwoo has a pretty strong traditional ethic, so i am sure they wouldnt have been placed if they werent necessary

  • @digital-alchemist
    @digital-alchemist 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    All you need is about $700 or $800 worth of cams, eh? ;) But seriously, that is some hardcore stuff. Nice work.

  • @cjunk351
    @cjunk351 11 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    GOD!!! that must have been tough on the camera person

  • @GhostofReason
    @GhostofReason 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Okay so Trango is bringing back the massive Big Bro #5 in limited runs once 100 people have preordered and we are at 32 so far. trango.com/p-356-big-bro-5.aspx

    • @Soli_Deo_Gloria_.
      @Soli_Deo_Gloria_. 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      $300.00 for one 😂
      For that price you could buy enough board feet to sow up a 60m fatty.

    • @Soli_Deo_Gloria_.
      @Soli_Deo_Gloria_. 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Before tax and shipping 😂😂😂

  • @alcupone6462
    @alcupone6462 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    She is so fearles fighter awesome

  • @olliojenarter
    @olliojenarter 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    This needs to be subtitled for the people who just stumble across it. LOL

  • @isakkane97
    @isakkane97 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    2 questions
    1. WHAT SIZE WAS THE BIGGEST CAM YOU HAD?!?
    2. is that the edelweiss curve rope?? and if so how is it? i just bought it and have not actually used it on any routes

  • @robinjones2345
    @robinjones2345 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice climb!

  • @mertman1
    @mertman1 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Looks like a job for the Wide Boyz

  • @charliedebach4022
    @charliedebach4022 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    That huge cam that she was using in between crack after she was done narrating, would that even protect you from falling? Does it really make it that stable for you to take 160 lbs dropping 10ft or more? Idk that seems insane, theirs no way that cam could hold her fall..

    • @rushthezeppelin
      @rushthezeppelin 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      VGs can absolutely take big whippers. They are way over-engineered.

  • @terrail959
    @terrail959 9 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    What is the second-half song? The internet doesn't seem to know!

    • @ltisrael
      @ltisrael 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      "Lady Gaga" by Starside Casino

    • @ДенисМельник-д8е
      @ДенисМельник-д8е 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      +Kester Alnilam
      Starside Casino - Lady Gaga

    • @roblux1
      @roblux1 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Darude - Sandstorm

    • @terrail959
      @terrail959 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Oh shucks little late but cheers guys!

  • @AnonUser2023
    @AnonUser2023 9 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    To all the morons complaining because she isn't wearing a helmet. 1) It's her choice. 2) It's not exactly a run out route by the looks of it. Good bolts and bomber cam placements that she can inch up with her as she goes. 3) Wearing a helmet on climbs like this often make it more likely you will fall off as it gets in the way and makes things harder.

    • @Metamere
      @Metamere 9 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      ***** Yeah. She actually fell on the climb earlier and injured her kidney, and that's why she added the two bolts. Also, she mentioned in the video that she had to use her head as part of the move to get inverted, which might be tough to do with a helmet on. A couple of years ago I led an off-width climb aptly named "The Hangman" at Devil's Lake, and I couldn't fit my head through a narrow portion because my helmet got stuck. I had to take off the helmet to complete the climb. Either way, a helmet wouldn't have helped much if I had fallen while passing my head through a head-shaped slot in the rock. Still, I was glad I had it on the difficult to protect start of the climb.

    • @dianakate5808
      @dianakate5808 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I am a climber and a nurse and it is no fun taking care of head injuries. You are the moron. Wear a helmet when leading.

  • @arthurski95
    @arthurski95 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    ridiculously big cams !

  • @nyczumazooma
    @nyczumazooma 12 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I want to know what brand of clothes she is wearing, so I can invest in the company. She must go through ALOT of cloths, pushing that stock through the ROOF!

  • @climbv15
    @climbv15 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    It looks like you could climb it safely on just gear. How about hacking the bolts? :)

  • @bergsteirer
    @bergsteirer 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    This lady in a pilates instructor as well, I'm not sure if it's a good idea to book a lesson with her....

  • @JulesBartow
    @JulesBartow 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    The cameraman/woman probably rappelled down and is sitting in a comfortable harness. Just a guess.

  • @northaunt
    @northaunt 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    dat #6 cams !

  • @dariojoelvazano9295
    @dariojoelvazano9295 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    i think that she has a infinite cam sistem.o o some thing like that!

  • @steveryan355
    @steveryan355 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    those CAMS DOE!

  • @rikypanellaa
    @rikypanellaa 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    all that you need is only some good friends!!!!!

  • @TheMamadeira
    @TheMamadeira 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow! So cool! :O

  • @brucegeisert
    @brucegeisert 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    WOW. You hit that too the top?
    Tried with some I-bars,. Biggest Cam I've ever seen....
    VW is odd, for Off-with.

  • @peakaweek
    @peakaweek 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    That upside down pivot doesn't look very straightforward to me!

  • @johns3106
    @johns3106 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Something wrong with bolts next to a crack, no matter how horrendous a flared offwidth it is!

    • @TzeiTzei11
      @TzeiTzei11 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Same first thought. I'm in no position to say it's wrong rather than why?

  • @yippeeWYyay
    @yippeeWYyay 11 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Nobody needs counseling but you, pal. A badass woman rocks a dirty offwidth, and your response is to condescend? You're not showing "Love and Care" if you're implying that a pro climber isn't smart enough to make her own decisions. And if anybody called me "honey" after rocking an OW like this, I'd kick his butt off the crag!

  • @stguitarman99
    @stguitarman99 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    dat cam!!! :D

  • @johndtuttle
    @johndtuttle 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Props, but offwidths are one of the most body size dependent of any type of climbing. Therefore, pretty hard to rate.

  • @bjaminbjamin
    @bjaminbjamin 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    fkn a. luv it

  • @TheStzzo
    @TheStzzo 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Was that bolted on lead?

  • @NoraOMalley
    @NoraOMalley 11 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    does anyone else think placing that giant cam would be the hottest thing ever?

  • @flyingface
    @flyingface 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    i broke my skull in Vedauwoo

  • @alma_libreix1261
    @alma_libreix1261 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    helmet ??

    • @rushthezeppelin
      @rushthezeppelin 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Headjam to get into the invert makes helmet a non-starter.

  • @ornerybuddha1
    @ornerybuddha1 10 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Super badass climbing! No helmet, seriously!?

    • @rushthezeppelin
      @rushthezeppelin 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Would have been impossible to do the headjam to get into the invert with one on. There are quite a few offwidths that make helmets a non-starter. Pretty much any squeeze chimney is going to be like that unless you are a bit tubby or have a freakishly small head.

  • @karsim83
    @karsim83 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    that's a lot of gear
    wont it slow you down

  • @willwilson2796
    @willwilson2796 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    jeez, such small cams. haha

  • @npuldon
    @npuldon 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    that big cam is placed pretty horribly

  • @davidt2965
    @davidt2965 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    cool but doesnt look too fun to me honestly just looks like a pain in the ass to climb like that

  • @chadnhender
    @chadnhender 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dafuq did i just watch!!!

  • @sket179
    @sket179 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The song is unbearable, otherwise interesting climb

  • @Pavuk112
    @Pavuk112 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Arse climbing :)

  • @СергейВышкварка-э8т
    @СергейВышкварка-э8т ปีที่แล้ว

    по шкуродёру почти не переводится

  • @benhefel3095
    @benhefel3095 ปีที่แล้ว

    def not rated R, you can put a crashpad on a cam where you are scared of hitting your head. xD

  • @FabioSpelta
    @FabioSpelta 11 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    I can't stop thinking "why the hell isn't she wearing a helmet being upside down like that"?

    • @bjaminbjamin
      @bjaminbjamin 10 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      every had your head stuck because of the lip on the helmet... I have! I had to squish my helmet to get myself free

    • @FabioSpelta
      @FabioSpelta 10 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Yeah, everybody knows how dangerous wearing an helmet is, it should be made illegal.

    • @okkbiker
      @okkbiker 10 ปีที่แล้ว

      Eben Daggett I think he meant if you fall while being upside down, you will hit your head on the rock first. Not rock fall from above.

    • @DeathBringer769
      @DeathBringer769 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Fabio Spelta Hell, it's the rock climbing world. Be thankful (or not) that she's not free soloing with no protection!

    • @ryanreese3839
      @ryanreese3839 8 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      +Eben Daggett Unless you are free soloing, you are making somebody else go and get help if you get hurt because you weren't wearing a helmet. Climbing is (mostly) a team sport, and not wearing the right equipment puts the team at risk.

  • @최진현-c3y
    @최진현-c3y 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    똥꿈이 간질간질 하겠다. 똥꿈에 해삼박는 기분이겠네.

  • @Soli_Deo_Gloria_.
    @Soli_Deo_Gloria_. 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Worries about hitting her head.
    But doesn't wear a helmet.
    SMASH MY HEAD

  • @johnmurrin9734
    @johnmurrin9734 ปีที่แล้ว

    big deal

  • @jeffv103
    @jeffv103 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Lose the music

  • @ryanreese3839
    @ryanreese3839 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    A couple hundred dollars in cams but no helmet? Really?

    • @jcarlson08
      @jcarlson08 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Her head would have gotten stuck...

    • @rushthezeppelin
      @rushthezeppelin 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You can't do the headjam to get into the invert with one on. Lots of offwidths make wearing a helmet impossible.

  • @stefanheintzelmann5744
    @stefanheintzelmann5744 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The music sucks complete! 🤢🤮