Absolutely right & it all to Benefit the Tory party Elite Establishment rich big corps etc their GC & Brexit reporting Highlighting was Bias towards the Tories & Bias against Labour 110%
maurice fox Coming from the other side I thought the opposite.They were definitely anti brexit 100%Proof is how mush Alistair Campbell was on and still is even though he is a nothing no position no job just anti Tory. nothing person who should have been locked up over Ira q.
As a lifelong listener of the BBC, nothing 'opened my eyes' to the liberal bias of the BBC like the Brexit debate, as well as the 2016 US Presidential campaign.
@Paul Boobier For me it was I was in a coma and then I woke up. I just wondered why I had never seen it at all. But I also noticed their softening stance on the Brexit party. It was subtle. But you could still tell. A very subversive lot.
And yet there are people who insist the BBC is far-right. And as crazy as it sounds I know this to be true because I see them sperging out about it on FB.
@@sunnyjim1355 Communists will push until society is unstable, they're hateful turds. They don't even realize they're doing the bidding of the elite, and they will be the first to go up against the wall once their purpose is fulfilled.
@Simeon Mayanja.. Agreed, as a listener to Radio 4, through the 2016 Presidential campaign. All the mentions of Trump were with the malice of ridicule, sarcasm or belittling hatred, even on the amusement programmes! Yet Ms Clinton was always presented in the terms of a Liberal progressive, sweet smelling, Perfume advertisement.
Simeon Mayajana. It would seem that the bots, trolls, and the completely deluded are out in force today. PS. How much do you get paid, shill, to spread your trash all over Twitter? You simply cannot do it for free. Not if you have a brain cell. Oh wait...
@@who9387 There is no evidence in Milton1079's comment that the person is receiving anything live. If it's not a live broadcast for receiving or for recording then you don't need a licence. If it wasn't for my other half I would have cancelled it ten years ago.
Never ever paid ! I have quite a substantial amount of letters from them(bbc). The last one had the words "act now" in the envelope window. Not sure if they want to employ me as an actor as I don't open any of the letters 😙
@@JustineBrownsBookshelf I'm a working class lefty, more or less. Labour doesn't seem to represent the working class at the moment. They don't have enough working class politicians. They've been infected by the same type of naive, middle class, woke, cultural Marxist bullshit that the working class left don't agree with. Especially when you're constantly being bombarded with selfish middle class people or even millionaires complaining about their oppression, without ever mentioning the poor, or homeless (which should be a priority), or how lucky they are not to be them.
Demented Dave Hall The big political story of our time is the working class have realised that Labour writ large no longer represent them and actively reject the things they love, such as nation and family.
I used to love listening to Radio 4, however it has now become so 'woke' that I find myself switching off the radio continually. Just last night I was listening to a programme which appears to be deeply racist. One of the people on the show said, unchallenged, that anyone who complained about the show would be "hijacked by white supremacists" - I simply turned off the programme in disgust. Complaining about racism against white people is not white supremacism.
@@CrystalJ7 I think there are a few of us reasonable people who probably do that. The BBC just don't get it and probably never will even after their demise. All I am asking for is voices from the centre and right as well as the left, but all I hear on the BBC are voices from the left and mostly far to the left.
My drive into work would consist of me listening to the Radio 4 Today programme and waiting for the first "woke" assertion to get snuck in either by the presenter, the news item or guest. It literally takes a couple of minutes before "white male", "toxic masculinity", "the first female/gay/lgbt/disabled/Black/Asian (insert blank)", "patriarchal Western colonialism", "representation", "equity", "Islamaphobia", "the female wage gap" etc get trotted out as if they simply self evident realities. I turn off the radio without fail. And I used to love the Today programme. As for the rest of the programmes there is rarely a magazine show, drama, comedy, political show that isn't riddled with these ideological perspectives. That's not to mention the special feature programmes that focus entirely on a Woke topic and surprise, surprise, end up always being in favour of it. I can still enjoy "In Our Time" and "The Life Scientific" but even then I'm on tenter hooks. Exasperating.
@DarthYuYevon Are you saying that right wing opinions are flawed? Then it follows that left wing opinions are also flawed. The crux, is that an opinion must be taken at face value regardless of it's source. Otherwise you are part of the problem.
Yes, all characters in the WOKE BBC s world are bland, opinionless, almost stereotypical gay/black/transgender.Its like as long as we chuck in a black/asian/ etc doesn t matter what they say . Theyre THERE and thats ALL that mattters. You public must have this agenda rammed down your throat till you re sick as a pig with it . So much so that you won t even want to watch the BBC anymore, which is where we re now at.Who does want to watch it????Anyone??
A few years agi i was accepted to provide a Question on Question Time and then i found i had to be there for 5pm so i withdrew as they were going to receive far more than the approved Question but can then EDIT the content
I remember watching a BBC interviewer talking to a so called "polling expert" on the subject of the then impending brexit referendum. The pollster said "of course we don't have all the figures, you know, the great unwashed, people without a degree" I made a complaint to the BBC, who did not respond. But I did point out that nearly every catastrophe that has happened in the history of our country, like wars and economic disasters has been the fault of someone with a degree and its the great unwashed, people without a degree, who pay the butchers bill! Good riddance to the BBC and to all the other woke organisations and companies!
You can tell he worked in the BBC for 25 years, he's still not actually in touch with most of us. Getting there but not quite yet. Case in point, a majority do not support the BBC, though I would accept a majority don't know any better and that number is shrinking by the day. I will agree with "I don't watch Dr Who" because as a lifetime fan, as are my kids, we don't watch it either - new Dr Whoke is absolute drivel, epitomising the BBC's attitude.
The speaker did struggle to revile the BBC. His words did shuffle around. This woke 'theory', 'opinion', 'dogma', that the BBC have 'chosen' to peddle is what happens when you view the world through the distorting lens of Utopianism. Endless virtue signalling, guilt ridden evangelism.
Atkins is part of the old school media. You know the bbc was set up to raise the intelligence levels of the general public, to introduce them to high culture. Understand that’s very different to sneering at the general public but yes he is of a different class than most of us. He’s going to be more reasonable and there’s nothing wrong with that but if you listen to what he’s saying he’s being quite damming in a polite way.
@@Matmus I get that. Being polite costs you nothing but the problem is we're long past polite in so many respects. When the woke are calling us all bigots, and worse, for daring to not follow the 8%'s insane narrative, while deliberately stiffing the conversation with endless complaining and cancel culture, it's time to start putting our foot down. Pussyfooting around these liars, who are themselves fascistic bigots, just grants them some form of legitimacy. They have no legitimacy. To discuss the topics they support will necessarily involve dismissing them from the conversation because they refuse to allow a conversation and therefore including them gets us absolutely nowhere. It's the same principle that would force you to dismiss your 3 year old's input on when bedtime is, only worse because these are adult babies who know exactly how to manipulate and who clearly refuse to be reasoned with. They have proved this time and time and time again while the BBC is one of the worst culprits, the main woke propagandist arm. Even when they pay lip-service to a conversation what do we see if not 3 vs 1 panels, hosts taking sides and so much shouting down and talking over the top of opinions they do not wish aired. And that's just one small part of how biased they are.
When they knock on your door...give no name and make no statment/s....just tell them to have a nice day and pissoff! That is how i handled them, they told me they would come back with the police? they never came back to my house again, and that was 3or 4 years ago.
How can you have the 'pulse of the country' when you don't repeatedly present both sides of the argument!!? The BBC is tragically remote, biased and therefore, inevitably, clueless. It must go.
I am the typical working class man....and I want the licence fee axed..and I want the bbc to stand on its own two feet..i do not support their agendas and politics..i don't use their service...I do not want to fund them anymore....
Agreed. I stopped my TV licence a year ago in principle because of their contemptuous lack of fairness in political comment, especially around Brexit. The BBC should just report news and if they want to do opinion, have a balance.
The licence fee surely goes against every Fair Trading law out there. . .you need to purchase a service in order to watch that broadcasters particular competitors output? ? That's the same as you must pay for M&S sausages even if you just want Asda cereal for breakfast
Peter whittle is an example of how to be a host and how to conduct an interview brilliant work I think this is political interview heaven. All aspects of opinions covered Richard is Brilliant and very interesting smart host.
My Dad used to work for the bbc many years ago and i can always remember him saying "don't always believe what they tell you in the news as i've seen all the cuttings on the editing rooms floor that have been taken out to fit their own agenda". My Mum is dead now but even back then she used to say everytime she saw j saville on the tv "turn that off! He's a bloody pervert". Now it makes me wonder what conversations my Dad had with my Mum back then for her to know. My Mum was one of the most innocent people going.
@@Muck006 and that's what i still don't get. They know that and they still push out all the shite and still expect us to sit there and say "oh it must be true then". Beggars belief sometimes.
@@helldriver5784 Because a) most people don't have the time to dig and, b) it gives people something to talk about: 'Ooh, did you see that appalling....'
08/23/23: I was working for State Street Bank & Trust (USA) back in the 1980s, in a huge bank vault. The big cheeses wanted good PR, so they yanked my co-worker out of the vault, brought him upstairs to the presentable part of the bank, gave him a neck tie to wear and then parked his butt in a vacant executive office. Then CBS "News" came down from midtown to do a story on how the bank was going full blast with a diversity-hiring program. Proof, Lo & Behold! Here was "Pedro," an executive-in-training. "Pedro" in real life was almost illiterate and definitely was not in an executive-training program, an elevation that he never would have been qualified for unless the contest had been rigged. Which it had. And this was straight-face presented by the American BBC, CBS, as an accurate "news" story.
I tried listening to Radio 4 on the way to work. Gave up after five minutes. It was non-stop vomiting of anti-Trump diatribes, pro-gay propaganda and pro-drugs.
@@mavisemberson8737 Yeah, it's funny, but they (RNZ) put out an article on a woman who fought Nestle, for them to return Milo to its original taste, and won, and I couldn't help but be inspired. We want our radio back!
Yes it was the pure obfuscation of the yellow jacket protests in the BBC that just flipped the coin and showed the true nature of the globalist nature of the BBC. The final nail is the never ever ever ever trumpist attack of the Donald. He clearly is their clear and present danger to their Shangri-la Populism as they're wont to call it
True! Now they aren’t reporting the rubber dinghies full of illegal immigrants landing on the south coast, day and night, escorted by the French Navy and our so-called Border Force.
The only news regarding France which I have seen on the BBC in the last year was macron announcing that he would rebuild Notre Dame Cathedral and the comment that the BBC made was that macron was more popular with the French working classes than ever.
Carl Grove it’s more to do with who controls the narrative in the controlled media rather than “global warming” being “obvious” as you stated all around us. I’ve listened to many experts with an alternative view point who have enabled me to have a more balanced understanding of “climate change” The alarmism is completely over the top.
@@lancegblack I was sceptical about global warming at first, but when every record of temperature extremes, rainfall, hurricane strength, and volume of ice melting at both poles, has been broken in the last couple of decades, I think alarm is fully justified! I am just glad that at 70, I won't live to see the worst of it. What we have now is bad enough.
Carl Grove I’m a skeptic to a degree, larger rather than smaller as I don’t trust the main stream media. Did you know 1934 was hotter than anything we’ve experienced as yet? I would also recommend listening to Freeman Dyson who sadly died last week. His research on Carbon Dioxide is making the world greener is very thought provoking. Funny how guys like him with vast knowledge get shut down by the climate alarmists. You can be sure someone will get very rich from this over reaction
The BBC was for the United Kingdom where we all turned to whenever there was Breaking News, happening around the world to give us the best unbiased opinion. I loved the BBC and would always have defended it, but not anymore since the Brexit debates. Many people who were seeking clarity, found only biased opinion which was so obvious to either side of the debate. It did the opposite of what their objectives were, which was for the U.K. to remain a member of the undemocratic EU. I hope when the people are no longer criminalised for non payment they will show the BBC we do not appreciate how they spend the license fee. The powers that be in the BBC should be sacked if they wish the BBC to continue. The United Kingdom has shown once again we will not be dictated to.
What you describe emerged simultaneously with Trump Derangement Syndrome (which if anything has become even more inflamed since the 2020 U.S. presidential election was rigged).
The BBC refused to publish or even mention Boris Johnson, PM's statement on the UK leaving the EU on the 31st Jan - 1st Feb 2010 This was deliberate BIAS.
Even then it would take too long as the 'lefty darlings' have made it almost impossible to be rid of them whereas if you're not 'in the gang' you are easily forced to resign through mocked-up allegations of sexism,misogynism,racism and any other 'ism' you can find,the BBC has been slowly infiltrated by marxists since the mid-sixties and they are so confident in their entrenchment and permanence that they don't care WHO knows it,toe the party line at the BBC and you've a job for life !
I am 74, and for what seems an eternity, I have had to endure the BBC metamorphosing from a thoroughly decent, fair minded organisation, into what seems to be a Communist, anti-democratic, one sided organ that does not brook dissent from the Conservative Party, People who voted Brexit, and the "HOI POLLOI" who love democracy!! The BBC, should in my opinion, have been privatised and broken up at least 30 years ago!!!!!!
When you live in a bubble and listen only to your own echo chamber what can you really expect ban the licence and see how long these stupid people last methinks not long at all!
raymond bourne ITV and Channel 4 are no different. Channel 5 seems to be the only half decent channel left with some quality documentaries that don’t insert “due to climate change...” every 30 mins. De crimming the fee won't change them.
Exactly. And when Robin says you can't just move them to a subscription model, he couldn't be more wrong. How did any subscription service begin, from scratch, if the BBC can't be moved to one? New kit was needed for them too. It's only their live programming so it's simple, include new kit and installation in the price like Sky often do or charge separately, like Sky often do. The writing is clearly on the wall, whether it happens in 2027 or later, so surely they should be investing in such tech now. It should have happened already, with the advent of FreeView and FreeSat, but naturally the BBC have been far too arrogantly complacent to keep up with the times, even though it's their business to do just that. TV companies leave and join free channels all the time so really it's just a means for subs to receive BBC programs and such as Sky/Virgin will surely have that covered (even if they take a cut and why shouldn't they) so it's only new kit for those without such subs already.
raymond bourne so why do they have right wing presenters? Why are there many Tories in high up positions within the BBC? I think there has been a lot of back hand deals.
Being in an echo chamber has to be guarded against, not least here on TH-cam. It is for that reason that the broadcast media should be entirely free and truely unbiased, I have watched the BBC and others push thier own agenda more and more over the years without being challenged. That they push any idea above any other, no matter what thier motives is proof that they have changed from an organisation that serves the people to one that now dictates to the people what we should think. This is now becoming a threat to democracy because of that.
Perhaps. But don't underestimate the bubble/echo chamber effect. They all live in London, mingle only with their own kind, and work with their same ilk. They've never been to Boston, Luton, Teford etc.
I used to be a heavy radio 4 listener. I can’t listen to the Archers after being a fan for 40 years the gradual creep from PC ideas to outwardly ridiculous ‘wokeness’ has ruined it. Totally unrecognisable as a portrait of country life. It may as well be Islington. The Saturday 12.30 comedy slot, previously hosted Hancock, Williams, Horne etc is now simply a Watered down, lets all laugh at ppl who don’t hold our views. Most output is transparently out of touch and patronising and hectoring.
I remember the Boris Johnson interview with Laura Kuenssberg and Aitken is right - the way, in particular, she ended the interview was so ill-mannered.
What I've notest is that I'm more British than the BBC, when it comes to this level of disregard for the voice of the British native , something must be DONE!! I'm just a foreigner who cares. ❤
fatima s - I was raised in the 60s and and considered the BBC neutral and unbiased. I first noticed the toxicity and degradation of the BBC in the 80s, especially in its coverage of the persecution of Palestinians. It is now much, much worse!
TR sat a political compass test. He was bang smack central. And yet because he is alarmed at the behaviour of the followers of one minority religion this is equated with him being both far right and racist. Neither race nor politics feature in TRs views or concerns. It's purely a critique about how one religion is failing to graft onto British life and how its adherants have trouble accepting the validity of Western liberal values. Sikhism, Hinduism, Bhudism, Christianity and Judaism - no problem.
@Wil Jones Not really. An application to the Small Claims Court cost £40 and gets added to the fee and lother costs. It damages your credit rating and is much cheaper than taking criminal action.
@@davidcockayne3381 that's true but.... a serious question. Is it legal to have the equipment to recieve live TV aslong as you don't turn it on? As in do they have to see you viewing live TV or you have to admit to it?
Decriminalising non payment of the licence will be the end of it, who in their right mind is going to pay for the licence when the BBC loses its teeth?
Disagree on the listening front - although, compared to even five years ago it's much worse, nevertheless I still enjoy BBC Radio 3, 5live, 4Extra and the World Service and listen to them every day. Sadly, Radio 4 is unlistenable for the same reasons as BBC TV is largely unwatchable... The blatant bias, as Aitken puts it in this excellent interview the ever-present BBC "sneer", is at its worst on radio 4.
@@cpryce6436 after further thought ALL bbc radio needs shutting down thus creating openings for commercial companies to better fill the gaps minus all the pro eu and other garbage proaganda they pump out like sewage every day .
Justin Carr what about their lack of coverage of the Gilets Jaunes . That’s the BBC’s policy and has been for a long time now it’s called selective hearing .
@@johncoppinger3208 It wasn't the lack of coverage it was the framing of coverage.All the millions were Syrian families fleeing for their lives,they were all Doctors and engineers when we all knew that 80% or more were young single men who were economic migrants.
Excellent interview! I really do feel the BBC, drip by drip, is whittling away and insidiously undermining our values and our culture - 'Horrible histories' was just the last straw for me! Good to hear two intelligent men calling it out for what it is. Thank you.
The BBC Radio 4 program is also resetting its content to appeal to a younger demographic, a demographic more in line with its woke values. This is especially true with the comedy.
The imbalance has most notably crept into drama productions. Firstly the forced over-representation of BAME and gay characters. Secondly when it comes to selecting the antagonists. When was the last time in a suspense drama that the villain of the piece turned out to be a BAME character, a gay character or even a woman? Playing the baddie invariably falls to the straight white man. This isn't happening through free, natural artistic expression. It's deliberate casting and writing and part of a wider agenda. Here's an example, would the BBC (or anyone else) ever commission a drama about a straight white man wrongly accused/convicted of rape? Perhaps based on the recent notable miscarriage of justice cases? There is absolutely no way that could ever be sympatheticly dramatised, even though it would be based on real events. It simply just doesn't fit with the political narrative...
I completely agree. Whenever there's some sort of military unit the commander is always female. Whenever there's a group of civilians there's one White, one Black, and one Asian . If there is a couple in a relationship it's always a mixed race or same sex couple. I can understand the BBC's desire to give BAME, female and LGBT actors more opportunity but it comes across as jarring and overtly political. They get away with it because drawing attention to it makes you look like some sort of Neanderthal bigot, when in fact you are just pointing out that their casting choices don't reflect the lived reality of the audience.
Has anyone noticed how the traditional argument cited for increased minority representation in media (i.e. proportional representation to reflect corresponding minority demographics existent in British society), has been quietly discarded in recent years? Why? Because that aforementioned 'proportional representation' has now largely been achieved (at least on screen)....but the regressive Left _still_ want more of course. A lot more. In other words is was _never_ about fair proportional representation and _everything_ to do with less white men at all costs....
@@ianw5528 Another thing they've started doing recently is portraying male characters as cowardly, crying with fear in a stressful situation whilst their female partner is strong and protective - a complete reversal of the traditional stereotype of the strong man defending the damsel in distress. The stupid thing about this mentality is that if it's designed to give females strong role models, they don't want them. Most women find weak, crying men very off-putting and actually accept that the man is supposed to be strong and protective. The BBC are trying to fix something that isn't broke. Worse, they are giving young men the wrong impression that women like them to be emotional. They generally don't!
@@jona826 Yeah, women are now invariably shown to be stoical, successful and courageous and the men flawed and weak. I always have a chuckle at BBC courtroom dramas and the plethora of BAME women High Court Judges that appear to populate their fictional judiciary 🤔 It sounds petty to bring it up and comment on it but it is just so contrived...
Of course the BBC love the EU. The BBC by it's own admission count on government coercion to fund them without a thought to what the marketplace will financially support voluntarily!
As a white, English heterosexual male, I feel the BBC do not speak for me in any way; in fact, in my opinion, they seem to actively push the opposite down my throat and try to make me feel bad about my identity and culture. I am sick and fed up with all their content and try hard to avoid anything they put out if I can help it. They need to be abolished.
Mr Aitken alluded to one of the more serious problems we face from the BBC which is the re-education or propagandizing of viewers through "long running dramas". This has had a very negative effect on attitudes and speech and therefore the atmosphere of the whole country. The BBC needs to be closed down.
Richard Fox I think your use of biased is incorrect I don’t think that the traditional family should be disadvantaged ie more unfavourable tax etc; also the two parent model where one person does have flexibility to allow for unexpected extra work was more practical in the past Bringing up children with two parents with role models of male and female gives the greatest opportunity for balanced development in children
When the results came in for the 2016 referendum David Dimbleby and the co BBC reporters faces was priceless! When the 2019 GE results came in they shut the power off! Haha. What a brilliant year last year was.
The last comment made me laugh. "Some people at the BBC will be concerned about poor people getting into trouble for not paying the licence fee". Lol. The BBC's last concern is the British working class, it openly despises them!
I'm wondering how much of that is deliberate, and how much is down to bad writing. I mean, the woke brigade rely heavily on cliches, but so do bad writers. A bad writer is going make a point in an obvious way, that can sometimes insult your intelligence. A bad writer can't think of interesting plot ideas. A bad writer is limited in scope, so they're bound to rely on the obvious, boring, non intellectually challenging ideas. A clever, talented writer would be capable doing the opposite. Avoiding the tired cliches we get bored by, and making points in far more intelligent ways, with far more complexity.
I watched it with my kids when David Tennant was the Doctor, it was good then. Kids grown up now and I happened to see part of an episode from last year with female doctor, it is totally unwatchable the Wokeness was suffocating. This is a children's programme... Ban the BBC
A very interesting discussion of a previously loved institution that lost the nation's respect after the Jimmy Saville cover up. I do feel that it is time to drop the stereotype of the working class lacking the education or understanding of the cultural elites. Witnessing the EU's economic chaos without the huge funds from the UK, surely leave voters were better informed and more aware of the economic waste we had signed up to. I think the BBC sees "the man in the street" as ignorant and having an opinion that should be ridiculed.
That was always the excuse, but it was the original 'faux outrage'. Fact is George III forbade any expansion of the American colonies westard of the Appalachians. And as soon as the US got independence, we all know what happened next... genocide.
Sunny Jim meh... it was in Magna Carta and the English Bill of Rights of 1668/9 first anyway ;) Still.... The BBC’s own worst enemy is the ‘charity’, Common Purpose that they spend £180,000+ for their ‘diversity training’. It’s basically a brain-washing cult that touts struggle-sessions to force think people who then get rewarded ‘leadership’ roles.
Use to enjoy watching period dramas. Now I find myself switching off after the first episode due to woke messaging. Peaky Blinders last series - 4 ladies & Tommy at the head of a violent criminal gang in the 1920/30s. Really!?
Yes, and mixed race partnerships play a big part in television dramas now, not to mention advertising, with couples consisting of black men and white women becoming much more frequent.
There has been strong evidence of bias since the Referendum campaign, through the last election and on to now. It is not shown by what the BBC says about any particular issue (global/climate crap excepted) but how they show lack of respect to people of certain viewpoints, whilst according a great deal of respect to people of certain other viewpoints. This has been evidenced in several interviews where Conservative or Leave politicians have been asked a question and not given the right to an interrupted reply. If the interviewee actually gets a chance to reply which the interviewer does no like the same question will be asked over and over again. Yet same interviewer will give Left wing or Remain politicians time to answer questions and like as not not even question the interviewee further on the same subject. When it comes to the Climate debate the BBC has lost the plot and accepted as gospel the climate scaremongers claims and "evidence" even when these claims have not been born out over the last 30 years by facts, when outlandish claims and warnings are not even questioned. Increasingly it feels like the BBC is not fulling its duty to educate, inform and entertain, but rather it indulges in attempts at brainwashing, propaganda and producing limp and flaccid drama, comedy and lifestyle programmes, which it self publicises as great or superb. For which it expects Joe Public to pay for. I could go on about how the BBC has not been an organisation for the good of the UK population over many decades but I do not have time here.
@@lumpycustard87 I short, television sets , are taxed when bought,, then taxed every year onward , just for being in the house !! even if they are not used. daylight robbery.
There's a massive amount of British people that are crying out for an open and honest discussion about Demographic change in the UK and it's negative effects. The people who are asking for this are nearly always ignored or dismissed as 'racists' as a matter of course, particularly on and by the BBC. This situation is untenable as this most obvious of problems MUST be addressed politically and openly or it will be like a long-lived toothache that gets worse and worse and then will be removed painfully and bloodily eventually. The BBC are THEE gate-keepers of what is discussed culturally and poltically at the moment but they have so over-reached their 'mandate' because of their middle-class snobbery that they will not understand why the edifice they have part-created comes crashing down. Politics and the media-arm of it has to flow with the changes of today or they are f***ed.
I don't mind that the BBC has far-left opinions, it is entitled to put out any programme it wishes. However, these are not my opinions so I don't watch or listen to anything they produce and really resent being forced to pay for it. Let them get their money from those who believe in their ghastly drivel, via subscription.
I find all these interviews very interesting. A long time ago i remember there used to be programmes on the BBC that were very similar. Then the BBC also put out comedy programmes that were actually funny but alas no more.
You have exactly the same problem in Germany, Austria, Switzerland...... everything you see on TV or read in papers does not reflect the opinion of 50 % of the population at least. Opinion has totally replaced reporting and everything follows an agenda.
Swedish state television was loosing so many viewers and fee payers that it had to be switched over to tax funding last year. Alternative media is now thriving to the extent that the government is pressuring global media companies to deplatform all manner of dissidents in general and the EU sceptical political opposition in particular.
The cohesion of the UK doesn’t exist anymore because of the influx of substantial numbers of cultures very different to the average person. So the BBC seems now to support the minorities
I was asked by the BBC to appear on a discussion program about the assassination of Jo Cox in 2016. That would have been enormous free publicity for me, but I REFUSED, because I was aware of BBC's bias, and I knew that their misrepresentation extended even to the point of electronically altering an interviewee's spoken words. They are completely untrustworthy.
While the reporting of UK and USA single minded, the reporting for other countries is downright disdainful. BBCs image as a neutral reporter is long gone.
A very thoughtful and detailed discussion - thank you Peter and Robin. We have never had a television from the early '70s onwards, but every couple of years get a letter from the BBC Licence Enforcement Police, bluntly telling us the dire consequences of not having a licence, laying out the terrors of a court appearance. It is a really intimidating document. We explain on each occasion we don't need a licence and ask them not to write to us again (which of course they ignore) but receive another document which is phrased as a sort of 'permission not to have a licence for two years'. No other organisation writes to us asking, for instance, why we haven't a gun licence or a liquor licence! Yes, please abolish the TV licence.
In my opinion the BBC changed when it started to receive cash from the EU when the British Broadcasting Corporation became the propaganda channel for the Brussels Broadcasting Corporation.
Just to correct something that was said in this interview, the technology and infrastructure DOES already exist to make the BBC into a subscription service. All Freeview TVs feature a "common interface" card slot on the rear, as provision for encrypted PayTV services, and have done for around 15 years. All thanks to an EU directive, rather ironically.
If quality programmes such as this were on the BBC, it would certainly make me think about renewing my licence fee, which I chose to stop paying in 2016. The corporation is highly political and agenda-driven, its well-paid executives, producers and presenters living in a well-protected bubble, far removed from reality. Just plain creepy.
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Why is it still called the British Broadcasting Corporation when it should be called the British Brainwashing Corporation?
Absolutely right & it all to Benefit the Tory party Elite Establishment rich big corps etc their GC & Brexit reporting Highlighting was Bias towards the Tories & Bias against Labour 110%
maurice fox Coming from the other side I thought the opposite.They were definitely anti brexit 100%Proof is how mush Alistair Campbell was on and still is even though he is a nothing no position no job just anti Tory. nothing person who should have been locked up over Ira q.
Brainwashing nah! They are not that f'ing clever.
Mmm, that's exactly what I call it!!
British Bulshit Corporation probably more technically correct
British TV was SO refreshing for us in North America but the last few years the BBC has gone down the WOKE crap hole!!
Agreed! 🙋🏽♂️🤷🏽♂️🧡🇺🇸
Yes, just look at Doctor Who.
@Billy Boffin So North America's are ALL from the U.S.A.?
@Billy Boffin Nasty.
@Billy Boffin They have some of the best shows though, with a lot of English actors on them, so hurrah for US TV.
As a lifelong listener of the BBC, nothing 'opened my eyes' to the liberal bias of the BBC like the Brexit debate, as well as the 2016 US Presidential campaign.
@Paul Boobier
For me it was I was in a coma and then I woke up. I just wondered why I had never seen it at all. But I also noticed their softening stance on the Brexit party. It was subtle. But you could still tell. A very subversive lot.
And yet there are people who insist the BBC is far-right. And as crazy as it sounds I know this to be true because I see them sperging out about it on FB.
@@sunnyjim1355 Communists will push until society is unstable, they're hateful turds. They don't even realize they're doing the bidding of the elite, and they will be the first to go up against the wall once their purpose is fulfilled.
@Simeon Mayanja.. Agreed, as a listener to Radio 4, through the 2016 Presidential campaign. All the mentions of Trump were with the malice of ridicule, sarcasm or belittling hatred, even on the amusement programmes! Yet Ms Clinton was always presented in the terms of a Liberal progressive, sweet smelling, Perfume advertisement.
Simeon Mayajana. It would seem that the bots, trolls, and the completely deluded are out in force today.
PS. How much do you get paid, shill, to spread your trash all over Twitter? You simply cannot do it for free. Not if you have a brain cell. Oh wait...
Gave up my tv licence a year ago due to BBC and other MSM political bias. Haven't missed it for a second.
Hear hear!
I gave mine up in 2010 £1540 better off and not brainwashed. Win win
Milton1079 - will sure to join you.
Milton1079 - You are missing a point here - the license fee is for receiving TV pictures .....from ANY CHANNEL. Not watching BBC makes no different
@@who9387 There is no evidence in Milton1079's comment that the person is receiving anything live. If it's not a live broadcast for receiving or for recording then you don't need a licence. If it wasn't for my other half I would have cancelled it ten years ago.
Stop paying the license fee, tens of thousands are already doing it each year.
Would have read better "thousands of US are...."
Have not paid for, or watched BBC for 25 years now
Never ever paid ! I have quite a substantial amount of letters from them(bbc). The last one had the words "act now" in the envelope window. Not sure if they want to employ me as an actor as I don't open any of the letters 😙
i stopped a few months back, and will never resume paying under any circumstances. the bbc are poison for the children of my generations children.
The BBC operate inside a progressive paradigm and see it as their role to “guide” the British people left.
And thus are guilty of a fraud on public finances
A strange, naive, over-simplistic, middle class version of the left. Which is what you'd expect from people who live in privilege bubbles.
Demented Dave Hall yes... if the left were all like Blue Labour, I would be more likely to vote for them.
@@JustineBrownsBookshelf I'm a working class lefty, more or less. Labour doesn't seem to represent the working class at the moment. They don't have enough working class politicians. They've been infected by the same type of naive, middle class, woke, cultural Marxist bullshit that the working class left don't agree with. Especially when you're constantly being bombarded with selfish middle class people or even millionaires complaining about their oppression, without ever mentioning the poor, or homeless (which should be a priority), or how lucky they are not to be them.
Demented Dave Hall The big political story of our time is the working class have realised that Labour writ large no longer represent them and actively reject the things they love, such as nation and family.
I used to love listening to Radio 4, however it has now become so 'woke' that I find myself switching off the radio continually.
Just last night I was listening to a programme which appears to be deeply racist. One of the people on the show said, unchallenged, that anyone who complained about the show would be "hijacked by white supremacists" - I simply turned off the programme in disgust.
Complaining about racism against white people is not white supremacism.
I agree 100% - just switching it off all the time with a big, big sigh!!!!
@@CrystalJ7 I think there are a few of us reasonable people who probably do that. The BBC just don't get it and probably never will even after their demise.
All I am asking for is voices from the centre and right as well as the left, but all I hear on the BBC are voices from the left and mostly far to the left.
I am glad I am not the only one. The BBC is gaslighting the indigenous population.
My drive into work would consist of me listening to the Radio 4 Today programme and waiting for the first "woke" assertion to get snuck in either by the presenter, the news item or guest. It literally takes a couple of minutes before "white male", "toxic masculinity", "the first female/gay/lgbt/disabled/Black/Asian (insert blank)", "patriarchal Western colonialism", "representation", "equity", "Islamaphobia", "the female wage gap" etc get trotted out as if they simply self evident realities. I turn off the radio without fail. And I used to love the Today programme. As for the rest of the programmes there is rarely a magazine show, drama, comedy, political show that isn't riddled with these ideological perspectives. That's not to mention the special feature programmes that focus entirely on a Woke topic and surprise, surprise, end up always being in favour of it. I can still enjoy "In Our Time" and "The Life Scientific" but even then I'm on tenter hooks. Exasperating.
@@Slarti agreed - typified by the Brexit 'debate'
Lot's of diversity - but no diversity of opinion - completely agree. That doesn't make me right wing, it makes me rational.
Try and tell lefties that (unless they r dressed in black with a bicycle chain in their hand).
No diversity when comes to the working class.
And so what if it does make u right wing,nothing wrong with that at all..
@DarthYuYevon Are you saying that right wing opinions are flawed? Then it follows that left wing opinions are also flawed. The crux, is that an opinion must be taken at face value regardless of it's source. Otherwise you are part of the problem.
Yes, all characters in the WOKE BBC s world are bland, opinionless, almost stereotypical gay/black/transgender.Its like as long as we chuck in a black/asian/ etc doesn t matter what they say . Theyre THERE and thats ALL that mattters. You public must have this agenda rammed down your throat till you re sick as a pig with it . So much so that you won t even want to watch the BBC anymore, which is where we re now at.Who does want to watch it????Anyone??
The BBC talks down to people on every level.
Really? Please give an example.
A few years agi i was accepted to provide a Question on Question Time and then i found i had to be there for 5pm so i withdrew as they were going to receive far more than the approved Question but can then EDIT the content
They act "posh." They're pish-posh (thank you, H.L. Mencken!).
I remember watching a BBC interviewer talking to a so called "polling expert" on the subject of the then impending brexit referendum. The pollster said "of course we don't have all the figures, you know, the great unwashed, people without a degree" I made a complaint to the BBC, who did not respond. But I did point out that nearly every catastrophe that has happened in the history of our country, like wars and economic disasters has been the fault of someone with a degree and its the great unwashed, people without a degree, who pay the butchers bill! Good riddance to the BBC and to all the other woke organisations and companies!
@@zava5025 you're right but how detached from people have you got to be to say shit like that.
@@markh2355 A part of the self perceived ELITE brigade.....
“If any question why we died,
Tell them, because our fathers lied.” - Kipling
I still enjoy watching the 2016 referendum night, & having a good glooooooat
@@gleeart when I want to be cheered up I go to the moment Dimbleby had to announce that Leave had won, he looked a broken man lol
You can tell he worked in the BBC for 25 years, he's still not actually in touch with most of us. Getting there but not quite yet. Case in point, a majority do not support the BBC, though I would accept a majority don't know any better and that number is shrinking by the day. I will agree with "I don't watch Dr Who" because as a lifetime fan, as are my kids, we don't watch it either - new Dr Whoke is absolute drivel, epitomising the BBC's attitude.
The speaker did struggle to revile the BBC. His words did shuffle around. This woke 'theory', 'opinion', 'dogma', that the BBC have 'chosen' to peddle is what happens when you view the world through the distorting lens of Utopianism. Endless virtue signalling, guilt ridden evangelism.
Atkins is part of the old school media. You know the bbc was set up to raise the intelligence levels of the general public, to introduce them to high culture. Understand that’s very different to sneering at the general public but yes he is of a different class than most of us. He’s going to be more reasonable and there’s nothing wrong with that but if you listen to what he’s saying he’s being quite damming in a polite way.
@@Matmus I get that. Being polite costs you nothing but the problem is we're long past polite in so many respects. When the woke are calling us all bigots, and worse, for daring to not follow the 8%'s insane narrative, while deliberately stiffing the conversation with endless complaining and cancel culture, it's time to start putting our foot down. Pussyfooting around these liars, who are themselves fascistic bigots, just grants them some form of legitimacy. They have no legitimacy.
To discuss the topics they support will necessarily involve dismissing them from the conversation because they refuse to allow a conversation and therefore including them gets us absolutely nowhere. It's the same principle that would force you to dismiss your 3 year old's input on when bedtime is, only worse because these are adult babies who know exactly how to manipulate and who clearly refuse to be reasoned with. They have proved this time and time and time again while the BBC is one of the worst culprits, the main woke propagandist arm. Even when they pay lip-service to a conversation what do we see if not 3 vs 1 panels, hosts taking sides and so much shouting down and talking over the top of opinions they do not wish aired. And that's just one small part of how biased they are.
Yes. Same in the USA. They think they're hip and trendy, but they're out of touch and juvenile.
He wants to hold the turd by the clean side.
It is simply unwatchable. The programs are cringeworthy and the news is social engineering.
Quite.
One now watches in bemused and uncomfortable fascination, and then only with one hand on the remote.
Agreed entirely.
Woke fascists! I don't watch it at all now.
uk police here : do you have a license for that opinion sir ?
I stopped watching two years ago.
What did it for me regarding the BBC was how bias it was during the Brexit period. When it was over, we decided as a family to cancel the BBC tax fee.
When they knock on your door...give no name and make no statment/s....just tell them to have a nice day and pissoff! That is how i handled them, they told me they would come back with the police? they never came back to my house again, and that was 3or 4 years ago.
"We decided as a family to cancel the BBC tax fee", one of the smartest things you can do. 👍
How can you have the 'pulse of the country' when you don't repeatedly present both sides of the argument!!? The BBC is tragically remote, biased and therefore, inevitably, clueless. It must go.
Explain why the BBC won't report on the strikes throughout Europe?
Yet the smallest gay or trans or feminist or climate strike or protest, theyre all over it. Anything that supports BBC bias.
they get funding from the eu for a start
Also ITN on itv, ch4 news and sky news and the radio station in this country. None of them. Will.
Chris -BBC is controlled by the EU elite, should be called - Brussels Broad Casting- wake up British people.
@@shspurs1342 We are not forced to pay for them, it's subsidising this extreme prejudice is what is offensive !
I don't know anyone that actually watches the BBC.... Just another great British gravy train... Like half the charities out there too...
Correction most of the charities
I am the typical working class man....and I want the licence fee axed..and I want the bbc to stand on its own two feet..i do not support their agendas and politics..i don't use their service...I do not want to fund them anymore....
Agreed. I stopped my TV licence a year ago in principle because of their contemptuous lack of fairness in political comment, especially around Brexit. The BBC should just report news and if they want to do opinion, have a balance.
Scrap the bbc license fee. ASAP. That’s the best solution.
And sack all those parasites at the top.
The licence fee surely goes against every Fair Trading law out there. . .you need to purchase a service in order to watch that broadcasters particular competitors output? ?
That's the same as you must pay for M&S sausages even if you just want Asda cereal for breakfast
Or, take matters into your own hands and just don't pay it.
What a brilliant communicator this 'BBC Insider' is: such clarity of mind.
Peter whittle is an example of how to be a host and how to conduct an interview brilliant work I think this is political interview heaven. All aspects of opinions covered Richard is Brilliant and very interesting smart host.
My Dad used to work for the bbc many years ago and i can always remember him saying "don't always believe what they tell you in the news as i've seen all the cuttings on the editing rooms floor that have been taken out to fit their own agenda".
My Mum is dead now but even back then she used to say everytime she saw j saville on the tv "turn that off! He's a bloody pervert". Now it makes me wonder what conversations my Dad had with my Mum back then for her to know.
My Mum was one of the most innocent people going.
@@Muck006 and that's what i still don't get. They know that and they still push out all the shite and still expect us to sit there and say "oh it must be true then".
Beggars belief sometimes.
@@helldriver5784 Because a) most people don't have the time to dig and, b) it gives people something to talk about: 'Ooh, did you see that appalling....'
I surely have enjoyed seeing their biased asses squirming over brexit though, esp on the night in 2016.
@@gleeart The look on the newscasters faces when they realized we were out was brilliant. Still love to watch the clip on TH-cam.
08/23/23: I was working for State Street Bank & Trust (USA) back in the 1980s, in a huge bank vault. The big cheeses wanted good PR, so they yanked my co-worker out of the vault, brought him upstairs to the presentable part of the bank, gave him a neck tie to wear and then parked his butt in a vacant executive office.
Then CBS "News" came down from midtown to do a story on how the bank was going full blast with a diversity-hiring program. Proof, Lo & Behold! Here was "Pedro," an executive-in-training.
"Pedro" in real life was almost illiterate and definitely was not in an executive-training program, an elevation that he never would have been qualified for unless the contest had been rigged. Which it had.
And this was straight-face presented by the American BBC, CBS, as an accurate "news" story.
I have listened to the BBC and my Radio New Zealand for some 30 years. They are now both unlistenable. Very sad
Same. It comes across as indoctrination and not news or open discussion on subjects
I tried listening to Radio 4 on the way to work. Gave up after five minutes. It was non-stop vomiting of anti-Trump diatribes, pro-gay propaganda and pro-drugs.
I used to write to RadioNZ when asked for opinions. I must have antagonised them . I don't listen except when there is a natural disaster.
@@mavisemberson8737 Yeah, it's funny, but they (RNZ) put out an article on a woman who fought Nestle, for them to return Milo to its original taste, and won, and I couldn't help but be inspired. We want our radio back!
And China IS?
Yes, we feel proud of our country and believe in our history and beautiful art from the past and want to see it again
you mean Countries! It is called the United Kingdom for a reason
Well put and I know you mean all four countries in the UK.
The BBC represents different civilisation which has contempt for everyone except the chosen elite.
But an elite which is totally misinformed as to the views of the people who pay their wages.
Our neighbours in EU France just a few miles over the sea have had a year of yellow vest riots yet never gets a mention on BBC news.
Censorship. Afraid it might happen here .......?
Yet when Trump mis-pronouces a word it's all over the BBC which conveniently ignores and dismisses all of the good things he's done for the US
Yes it was the pure obfuscation of the yellow jacket protests in the BBC that just flipped the coin and showed the true nature of the globalist nature of the BBC. The final nail is the never ever ever ever trumpist attack of the Donald.
He clearly is their clear and present danger to their Shangri-la
Populism as they're wont to call it
True! Now they aren’t reporting the rubber dinghies full of illegal immigrants landing on the south coast, day and night, escorted by the French Navy and our so-called Border Force.
The only news regarding France which I have seen on the BBC in the last year was macron announcing that he would rebuild Notre Dame Cathedral and the comment that the BBC made was that macron was more popular with the French working classes than ever.
Take Climate Change; no one is ever interviewed about scientific challenges
Absolutely spot on 👌🏽
Probably because with the effects of global warming obvious all around us there is nobody willing to challenge the idea.
Carl Grove it’s more to do with who controls the narrative in the controlled media rather than “global warming” being “obvious” as you stated all around us. I’ve listened to many experts with an alternative view point who have enabled me to have a more balanced understanding of “climate change” The alarmism is completely over the top.
@@lancegblack I was sceptical about global warming at first, but when every record of temperature extremes, rainfall, hurricane strength, and volume of ice melting at both poles, has been broken in the last couple of decades, I think alarm is fully justified! I am just glad that at 70, I won't live to see the worst of it. What we have now is bad enough.
Carl Grove I’m a skeptic to a degree, larger rather than smaller as I don’t trust the main stream media. Did you know 1934 was hotter than anything we’ve experienced as yet? I would also recommend listening to Freeman Dyson who sadly died last week. His research on Carbon Dioxide is making the world greener is very thought provoking. Funny how guys like him with vast knowledge get shut down by the climate alarmists. You can be sure someone will get very rich from this over reaction
The BBC was for the United Kingdom where we all turned to whenever there was Breaking News, happening around the world to give us the best unbiased opinion.
I loved the BBC and would always have defended it, but not anymore since the Brexit debates. Many people who were seeking clarity, found only biased opinion which was so obvious to either side of the debate. It did the opposite of what their objectives were, which was for the U.K. to remain a member of the undemocratic EU.
I hope when the people are no longer criminalised for non payment they will show the BBC we do not appreciate how they spend the license fee.
The powers that be in the BBC should be sacked if they wish the BBC to continue.
The United Kingdom has shown once again we will not be dictated to.
This crap was going on long before Brexit came on the scene.
What you describe emerged simultaneously with Trump Derangement Syndrome (which if anything has become even more inflamed since the 2020 U.S. presidential election was rigged).
Heteropinions will not be tolerated.
Sithis guide you
Dissent of Leftist orthodoxy will NOT be tolerated and will CRUSHED at all cost!!
This sounds lime hyperbole but sadly it is not.
Got rid of BBC & sky, saved myself quite abit of money. And I no longer get angry at the TV 😁
Good for you. Me too. We don't need the "multicultural society" rammed down our throats 24/7.
I stopped watching mainstream TV and movies five years ago when they went against Donald Trump and Brexit
The BBC refused to publish or even mention Boris Johnson, PM's statement on the UK leaving the EU on the 31st Jan - 1st Feb 2010
This was deliberate BIAS.
It's high time the BBC monopoly was ended.
Law of nature; bubbles go pop. Sooner the better with the BBC.
If they had put this man in charge of the BBC, it might actually have a chance of surviving.
Even then it would take too long as the 'lefty darlings' have made it almost impossible to be rid of them whereas if you're not 'in the gang' you are easily forced to resign through mocked-up allegations of sexism,misogynism,racism and any other 'ism' you can find,the BBC has been slowly infiltrated by marxists since the mid-sixties and they are so confident in their entrenchment and permanence that they don't care WHO knows it,toe the party line at the BBC and you've a job for life !
The BBC needs major reform. I'm in my 40s, I loath what it has become and it's not alone but it's unique due to the funding.
I am 74, and for what seems an eternity, I have had to endure the BBC metamorphosing from a thoroughly decent, fair minded organisation, into what seems to be a Communist, anti-democratic, one sided organ that does not brook dissent from the Conservative Party, People who voted Brexit, and the "HOI POLLOI" who love democracy!! The BBC, should in my opinion, have been privatised and broken up at least 30 years ago!!!!!!
When you live in a bubble and listen only to your own echo chamber what can you really expect ban the licence and see how long these stupid people last methinks not long at all!
raymond bourne ITV and Channel 4 are no different. Channel 5 seems to be the only half decent channel left with some quality documentaries that don’t insert “due to climate change...” every 30 mins. De crimming the fee won't change them.
Exactly. And when Robin says you can't just move them to a subscription model, he couldn't be more wrong. How did any subscription service begin, from scratch, if the BBC can't be moved to one? New kit was needed for them too. It's only their live programming so it's simple, include new kit and installation in the price like Sky often do or charge separately, like Sky often do. The writing is clearly on the wall, whether it happens in 2027 or later, so surely they should be investing in such tech now. It should have happened already, with the advent of FreeView and FreeSat, but naturally the BBC have been far too arrogantly complacent to keep up with the times, even though it's their business to do just that. TV companies leave and join free channels all the time so really it's just a means for subs to receive BBC programs and such as Sky/Virgin will surely have that covered (even if they take a cut and why shouldn't they) so it's only new kit for those without such subs already.
raymond bourne so why do they have right wing presenters?
Why are there many Tories in high up positions within the BBC?
I think there has been a lot of back hand deals.
@@kylethedalek A centrist always look like far right wing to someone on the far left.
Being in an echo chamber has to be guarded against, not least here on TH-cam. It is for that reason that the broadcast media should be entirely free and truely unbiased, I have watched the BBC and others push thier own agenda more and more over the years without being challenged. That they push any idea above any other, no matter what thier motives is proof that they have changed from an organisation that serves the people to one that now dictates to the people what we should think. This is now becoming a threat to democracy because of that.
I don't really agree with "the BBC are oblivious to the public" i think mostly they know but have contempt for the public's view.
Perhaps. But don't underestimate the bubble/echo chamber effect. They all live in London, mingle only with their own kind, and work with their same ilk. They've never been to Boston, Luton, Teford etc.
I used to be a heavy radio 4 listener. I can’t listen to the Archers after being a fan for 40 years the gradual creep from PC ideas to outwardly ridiculous ‘wokeness’ has ruined it. Totally unrecognisable as a portrait of country life. It may as well be Islington. The Saturday 12.30 comedy slot, previously hosted Hancock, Williams, Horne etc is now simply a Watered down, lets all laugh at ppl who don’t hold our views.
Most output is transparently out of touch and patronising and hectoring.
Richard Fox obviously!
10:03: "There are aspects of working class life which involve things which the cultural elite disapprove of..." Yes. Work.
I remember the Boris Johnson interview with Laura Kuenssberg and Aitken is right - the way, in particular, she ended the interview was so ill-mannered.
Yes she clearly is like a never trumper. Just content on pointing out the personal negative. Stubborn and unprofessional
What I've notest is that I'm more British than the BBC, when it comes to this level of disregard for the voice of the British native , something must be DONE!! I'm just a foreigner who cares. ❤
Thank you, and bless you.
fatima s - I was raised in the 60s and and considered the BBC neutral and unbiased. I first noticed the toxicity and degradation of the BBC in the 80s, especially in its coverage of the persecution of Palestinians. It is now much, much worse!
Noticed*
Totally biased against Tommy Robinson and those who share many of his opinions. Indeed misinterpret what Tommy et al say.
I recall Jo Swindson declaring TR was Britain's most racist man... Talk about virtue signalling and dog whistle politics!
The BBC has very successfully labelled him a racist and therefore easy to ignore.
She would know what a dog whistle sounds like
@@smokeymcpot9887 Now now :)
TR sat a political compass test. He was bang smack central.
And yet because he is alarmed at the behaviour of the followers of one minority religion this is equated with him being both far right and racist.
Neither race nor politics feature in TRs views or concerns.
It's purely a critique about how one religion is failing to graft onto British life and how its adherants have trouble accepting the validity of Western liberal values.
Sikhism, Hinduism, Bhudism, Christianity and Judaism - no problem.
Decriminalise the license and we shall see how many people pay for it.
They'll still pursue people through the civil courts; the only difference is that they won't be able to send you to jail for non-payment.
Decriminalise the licence fee and set up to ostracise them in any way possible.
@Wil Jones Not really. An application to the Small Claims Court cost £40 and gets added to the fee and lother costs. It damages your credit rating and is much cheaper than taking criminal action.
@You got played fool Of course, if you don't pay the fee then you can't watch any live TV, not just the BBC.
@@davidcockayne3381 that's true but.... a serious question.
Is it legal to have the equipment to recieve live TV aslong as you don't turn it on?
As in do they have to see you viewing live TV or you have to admit to it?
Why does the license fee exist when terrestrial broadcasting is hardly being watched?
Decriminalising non payment of the licence will be the end of it, who in their right mind is going to pay for the licence when the BBC loses its teeth?
I finally cancelled my licence. No live TV in this house.
Me too, I refuse to contribute to its survival 👍
BBC - ask not for whom the bell tolls - it tolls for thee!
Nice to see a conversation between adults, treating us like adults
youtube has far better viewing and listening material than the bbc ever had
Disagree on the listening front - although, compared to even five years ago it's much worse, nevertheless I still enjoy BBC Radio 3, 5live, 4Extra and the World Service and listen to them every day. Sadly, Radio 4 is unlistenable for the same reasons as BBC TV is largely unwatchable... The blatant bias, as Aitken puts it in this excellent interview the ever-present BBC "sneer", is at its worst on radio 4.
@@cpryce6436 after further thought ALL bbc radio needs shutting down thus creating openings for commercial companies to better fill the gaps minus all the pro eu and other garbage proaganda they pump out like sewage every day .
Totally agree.
The original concept of the BBC was to educate, entertain and inform. Now it seems to be re-educate, entertain and inform after appropriate approval.
Approval of Russia , China and the university’s, presumably !
Wrong....it doesn't "entertain" anymore
Great to see you again Robin, and thank you Peter for another great show.
there is no need for the BBC - just rid us of it
Rather than forcing you to pay for it you mean? This makes you an unwilling accomplice.
For me it was their coverage of the 2015 migrant crisis that started me on anti Beeb path.
Justin Carr what about their lack of coverage of the Gilets Jaunes . That’s the BBC’s policy and has been for a long time now it’s called selective hearing .
@@johncoppinger3208 It wasn't the lack of coverage it was the framing of coverage.All the millions were Syrian families fleeing for their lives,they were all Doctors and engineers when we all knew that 80% or more were young single men who were economic migrants.
Excellent interview! I really do feel the BBC, drip by drip, is whittling away and insidiously undermining our values and our culture - 'Horrible histories' was just the last straw for me! Good to hear two intelligent men calling it out for what it is. Thank you.
Well said!!
The BBC Radio 4 program is also resetting its content to appeal to a younger demographic, a demographic more in line with its woke values. This is especially true with the comedy.
Comedy? but its not funny!
The imbalance has most notably crept into drama productions. Firstly the forced over-representation of BAME and gay characters. Secondly when it comes to selecting the antagonists. When was the last time in a suspense drama that the villain of the piece turned out to be a BAME character, a gay character or even a woman? Playing the baddie invariably falls to the straight white man. This isn't happening through free, natural artistic expression. It's deliberate casting and writing and part of a wider agenda.
Here's an example, would the BBC (or anyone else) ever commission a drama about a straight white man wrongly accused/convicted of rape? Perhaps based on the recent notable miscarriage of justice cases? There is absolutely no way that could ever be sympatheticly dramatised, even though it would be based on real events. It simply just doesn't fit with the political narrative...
I completely agree. Whenever there's some sort of military unit the commander is always female. Whenever there's a group of civilians there's one White, one Black, and one Asian . If there is a couple in a relationship it's always a mixed race or same sex couple. I can understand the BBC's desire to give BAME, female and LGBT actors more opportunity but it comes across as jarring and overtly political. They get away with it because drawing attention to it makes you look like some sort of Neanderthal bigot, when in fact you are just pointing out that their casting choices don't reflect the lived reality of the audience.
@@jona826 Spot on Jon. Really well put. The danger is that even if you raise this as an issue you are slammed as a bigot.
Has anyone noticed how the traditional argument cited for increased minority representation in media (i.e. proportional representation to reflect corresponding minority demographics existent in British society), has been quietly discarded in recent years?
Why? Because that aforementioned 'proportional representation' has now largely been achieved (at least on screen)....but the regressive Left _still_ want more of course. A lot more.
In other words is was _never_ about fair proportional representation and _everything_ to do with less white men at all costs....
@@ianw5528 Another thing they've started doing recently is portraying male characters as cowardly, crying with fear in a stressful situation whilst their female partner is strong and protective - a complete reversal of the traditional stereotype of the strong man defending the damsel in distress. The stupid thing about this mentality is that if it's designed to give females strong role models, they don't want them. Most women find weak, crying men very off-putting and actually accept that the man is supposed to be strong and protective. The BBC are trying to fix something that isn't broke. Worse, they are giving young men the wrong impression that women like them to be emotional. They generally don't!
@@jona826 Yeah, women are now invariably shown to be stoical, successful and courageous and the men flawed and weak. I always have a chuckle at BBC courtroom dramas and the plethora of BAME women High Court Judges that appear to populate their fictional judiciary 🤔 It sounds petty to bring it up and comment on it but it is just so contrived...
Scrap the licence. Bloody forced tax to switch on a frecking t.v. or go to jail. It needs to go.
Of course the BBC love the EU. The BBC by it's own admission count on government coercion to fund them without a thought to what the marketplace will financially support voluntarily!
The BBC get nearly 9% of its funding from the EU. They clearly don't want to bite the hand that feeds them.
As a white, English heterosexual male, I feel the BBC do not speak for me in any way; in fact, in my opinion, they seem to actively push the opposite down my throat and try to make me feel bad about my identity and culture. I am sick and fed up with all their content and try hard to avoid anything they put out if I can help it. They need to be abolished.
Absolutely no need for the bbc anymore,
Mr Aitken alluded to one of the more serious problems we face from the BBC which is the re-education or propagandizing of viewers through "long running dramas". This has had a very negative effect on attitudes and speech and therefore the atmosphere of the whole country. The BBC needs to be closed down.
The government don’t support the family either and I see more portrayals of anti-monogamous relationships
Important point you raise here. Very true. And thats sad.
Richard Fox I think your use of biased is incorrect
I don’t think that the traditional family should be disadvantaged ie more unfavourable tax etc; also the two parent model where one person does have flexibility to allow for unexpected extra work was more practical in the past
Bringing up children with two parents with role models of male and female gives the greatest opportunity for balanced development in children
Richard Fox thks that’s good to hear and info that’s doesn’t seem to come across in the news
More normal now to have 2dads or 2 mums .Thank the Lord I’m the generation that’s leaving but feel for my family the world that’s left behind me
not at all.But the BBC is biased against OUR OWN INDIGENOUS population.@Richard Fox
When the results came in for the 2016 referendum David Dimbleby and the co BBC reporters faces was priceless! When the 2019 GE results came in they shut the power off! Haha. What a brilliant year last year was.
The last comment made me laugh. "Some people at the BBC will be concerned about poor people getting into trouble for not paying the licence fee". Lol. The BBC's last concern is the British working class, it openly despises them!
I stopped paying the licence fee and stopped watching the BBC, Just do it people. You have nothing to lose but your chains.
if you want to see the best example of wokeism on the bbc watch dr. who
I'm wondering how much of that is deliberate, and how much is down to bad writing. I mean, the woke brigade rely heavily on cliches, but so do bad writers. A bad writer is going make a point in an obvious way, that can sometimes insult your intelligence. A bad writer can't think of interesting plot ideas. A bad writer is limited in scope, so they're bound to rely on the obvious, boring, non intellectually challenging ideas. A clever, talented writer would be capable doing the opposite. Avoiding the tired cliches we get bored by, and making points in far more intelligent ways, with far more complexity.
I watched it with my kids when David Tennant was the Doctor, it was good then.
Kids grown up now and I happened to see part of an episode from last year with female doctor, it is totally unwatchable the Wokeness was suffocating.
This is a children's programme...
Ban the BBC
You mean Dr Whoke
@@DementedDaveH A very informed post. Thank you.
A very interesting discussion of a previously loved institution that lost the nation's respect after the Jimmy Saville cover up. I do feel that it is time to drop the stereotype of the working class lacking the education or understanding of the cultural elites. Witnessing the EU's economic chaos without the huge funds from the UK, surely leave voters were better informed and more aware of the economic waste we had signed up to. I think the BBC sees "the man in the street" as ignorant and having an opinion that should be ridiculed.
Fully agree with you regarding the Laura Kunnesberg interview with the PM . It’s was shameful. Also their treatment of President Trump equally so
agaperevolution You mean the piece of garbage in the White House ?
We might also want to ask why so many TV platforms on TH-cam have their 'comments' switched to off.
Exactly the same in Australia with ABC.
No taxation without representation.
That was always the excuse, but it was the original 'faux outrage'. Fact is George III forbade any expansion of the American colonies westard of the Appalachians. And as soon as the US got independence, we all know what happened next... genocide.
Sunny Jim meh... it was in Magna Carta and the English Bill of Rights of 1668/9 first anyway ;) Still.... The BBC’s own worst enemy is the ‘charity’, Common Purpose that they spend £180,000+ for their ‘diversity training’. It’s basically a brain-washing cult that touts struggle-sessions to force think people who then get rewarded ‘leadership’ roles.
The minority of anti BBC Voice’s is growing daily .... this guy is seriously watching his own words ‘ I hear fear in his voice
Use to enjoy watching period dramas. Now I find myself switching off after the first episode due to woke messaging.
Peaky Blinders last series - 4 ladies & Tommy at the head of a violent criminal gang in the 1920/30s. Really!?
Yes, and mixed race partnerships play a big part in television dramas now, not to mention advertising, with couples consisting of black men and white women becoming much more frequent.
Being fed too much diversity
And they’ve destroyed my fav show Dr Who
There has been strong evidence of bias since the Referendum campaign, through the last election and on to now. It is not shown by what the BBC says about any particular issue (global/climate crap excepted) but how they show lack of respect to people of certain viewpoints, whilst according a great deal of respect to people of certain other viewpoints. This has been evidenced in several interviews where Conservative or Leave politicians have been asked a question and not given the right to an interrupted reply. If the interviewee actually gets a chance to reply which the interviewer does no like the same question will be asked over and over again. Yet same interviewer will give Left wing or Remain politicians time to answer questions and like as not not even question the interviewee further on the same subject.
When it comes to the Climate debate the BBC has lost the plot and accepted as gospel the climate scaremongers claims and "evidence" even when these claims have not been born out over the last 30 years by facts, when outlandish claims and warnings are not even questioned.
Increasingly it feels like the BBC is not fulling its duty to educate, inform and entertain, but rather it indulges in attempts at brainwashing, propaganda and producing limp and flaccid drama, comedy and lifestyle programmes, which it self publicises as great or superb. For which it expects Joe Public to pay for.
I could go on about how the BBC has not been an organisation for the good of the UK population over many decades but I do not have time here.
People who don't use the service DONT NEED TO PAY!
Anyone who watches live tv are required to have a licence, regardless of channel..!
Exactly, don't watch live TV!
@@lumpycustard87 I short, television sets , are taxed when bought,, then taxed every year onward , just for being in the house !! even if they are not used. daylight robbery.
There's a massive amount of British people that are crying out for an open and honest discussion about Demographic change in the UK and it's negative effects.
The people who are asking for this are nearly always ignored or dismissed as 'racists' as a matter of course, particularly on and by the BBC.
This situation is untenable as this most obvious of problems MUST be addressed politically and openly or it will be like a long-lived toothache that gets worse and worse and then will be removed painfully and bloodily eventually.
The BBC are THEE gate-keepers of what is discussed culturally and poltically at the moment but they have so over-reached their 'mandate' because of their middle-class snobbery that they will not understand why the edifice they have part-created comes crashing down.
Politics and the media-arm of it has to flow with the changes of today or they are f***ed.
I don't mind that the BBC has far-left opinions, it is entitled to put out any programme it wishes. However, these are not my opinions so I don't watch or listen to anything they produce and really resent being forced to pay for it. Let them get their money from those who believe in their ghastly drivel, via subscription.
Hear hear!
Remove British from their name too.
@@another2462 Perhaps replace it with Bolshevik?
No. if they are the BBC they shouldn't have any agenda, except to entertain and report the news.
Ban the BBC.
Well put. “Out of Step” summarises the BBC well.
Once was an icon. You broke my heart
I find all these interviews very interesting. A long time ago i remember there used to be programmes on the BBC that were very similar. Then the BBC also put out comedy programmes that were actually funny but alas no more.
You have exactly the same problem in Germany, Austria, Switzerland...... everything you see on TV or read in papers does not reflect the opinion of 50 % of the population at least. Opinion has totally replaced reporting and everything follows an agenda.
Swedish state television was loosing so many viewers and fee payers that it had to be switched over to tax funding last year.
Alternative media is now thriving to the extent that the government is pressuring global media companies to deplatform all manner of dissidents in general and the EU sceptical political opposition in particular.
The BBC simply chose what news to feed you.
The bbc has become the equivalent of msnbc in america. To often interviewers bias shows through
The BBC is performing it’s purpose very well. Which is to be a gatekeeper for the State and to keep the public misinformed and divided.
They are finished ! Soon as it goes to subscription they will be like cnn going going gone ✌🏻🇬🇧🏴
Their attitude is “form the wagon circle” - they typically behave like all failing organisations = Ostriches!
The cohesion of the UK doesn’t exist anymore because of the influx of substantial numbers of cultures very different to the average person.
So the BBC seems now to support the minorities
Except the minorities won't pay a licence fee when the British people stop.
Save a £150 a year. Cancel you're tv license. F them
I was asked by the BBC to appear on a discussion program about the assassination of Jo Cox in 2016. That would have been enormous free publicity for me, but I REFUSED, because I was aware of BBC's bias, and I knew that their misrepresentation extended even to the point of electronically altering an interviewee's spoken words. They are completely untrustworthy.
I'm Ex bbc in the 80 s, and even then it was very uncomfortable not being able to air any "thought crime " views.
Very interesting interview. Thank-you for uploading.
While the reporting of UK and USA single minded, the reporting for other countries is downright disdainful. BBCs image as a neutral reporter is long gone.
There is nobody less awake than those who call themselves "woke" . It is like calling a 300lb. man Tiny!
The Licence fee needs to withdrawn, as the BBC is no longer an organisation that represents the people of Britain.
A very thoughtful and detailed discussion - thank you Peter and Robin. We have never had a television from the early '70s onwards, but every couple of years get a letter from the BBC Licence Enforcement Police, bluntly telling us the dire consequences of not having a licence, laying out the terrors of a court appearance. It is a really intimidating document. We explain on each occasion we don't need a licence and ask them not to write to us again (which of course they ignore) but receive another document which is phrased as a sort of 'permission not to have a licence for two years'. No other organisation writes to us asking, for instance, why we haven't a gun licence or a liquor licence! Yes, please abolish the TV licence.
Super interview!!!
In my opinion the BBC changed when it started to receive cash from the EU when the British Broadcasting Corporation became the propaganda channel for the Brussels Broadcasting Corporation.
Just to correct something that was said in this interview, the technology and infrastructure DOES already exist to make the BBC into a subscription service. All Freeview TVs feature a "common interface" card slot on the rear, as provision for encrypted PayTV services, and have done for around 15 years.
All thanks to an EU directive, rather ironically.
This is rather good and tells me the BBC is suffering from group think, a very easy thing to do when you lack diversity of opinion.
If quality programmes such as this were on the BBC, it would certainly make me think about renewing my licence fee, which I chose to stop paying in 2016. The corporation is highly political and agenda-driven, its well-paid executives, producers and presenters living in a well-protected bubble, far removed from reality. Just plain creepy.