Edit(10/16/2021): Some viewers have said there's a hyper-armor state on Destructive Stork's 2nd Tap (Prevents you from being KB'd), and Rampaging Harrier is actually the only one with an iFrame at the start of the second tap! I'll update this pinned comment as we find out more as a community! Also some theorycrafting for DPS rotations for SB in a comment below says to WA inbetween PA hits for max DPS which is very interesting, so make sure you try it out! Hope you're all having a great day today and having fun with the newest addition to the game! Also whoever's got some good Jet Boot camos, comment them down below cause I look hella dumb with mine T_T. Twitter: twitter.com/everydere Discord Server: discord.gg/2fc7Daj72b Twitch: www.twitch.tv/everydere
for multi weapons personally Im still split between wanting using to use "D-saber or T-Dagger with S-Blades" , "Katana or T-Daggers With J-Boots" what are your thoughts on these combos?
after playing sb for sometimes now I noticed that Destructive stork second button make you *felt stork (invincible to knock), you still took the demage but you won't get launched by enemy attack :') and you can hold the pa button for a second in order to make it skip to 2nd form of it's pa
New player, just downloaded the game yesterday and I went straight to Bouncer after seeing the jet boots. Thanks for the explanation on how to use them efficiently
@@everydere I did! Didn't know about the s in PAs and that spinning gust fills the the guage the fastest. I always thought it was fierce weave's left over waves
I'm surprised by how they made jetboots in NGS cause it feels so familiar yet new, and I love it. I feel like that's how I'd describe most weapon implementations from base to NGS is "Familiar yet new"
I'm thinking about making a set of those too once I get my evolcoat drops, especially since I'm sitting on my weekly N-Meseta cause my fashion is like 50k an item (I play a dude). Also quick question since you've made the multi-wep already, do the photon blades stay embedded in your target when you switch to JB?
For the damage calculations on multi-weps, your mainclass weapon will always receive the +10% potency. So if you do Sword(Main)+SB(Multi) but you play BoFo, the SB will still receive the 10% potency even though it's not the main weapon. This means on SB+JB you'll receive the +10% pot on both but augments I believe only apply to the weapon type (This means you'll need TEC+MEL augments).
@@everydere I have a blade main multi with knucks but I’m going to switch it to blade/boots and definitely subbed and would love to see another video with good multi wep builds. I wanna do bouncer main sub force cause force is by far my favorite sub class.
Jet boots are the S-tier Brawl Metaknight weapon in this game. Jet intensity alone is fucking ridiculous (highest recorded for me being 13.9k damage on downed Vera), AND it has infinite counters on the weapon action with no end lag. When holding a normal attack does more damage than the Photon Blast, it’s insane. Also, Hyper Night Parade is the best jet boots camo. Hands down
O I FORGOT ABOUT HYPER NIGHT PARADE THANK YOU. Also you're correct I'm planning on reviewing all the weapons next and Jet Boots sits in basically it's own tier LMAO at the moment. I wonder if they're going to do some adjustments since I'm curious about the DPS calculations for the normal attack cause it does have a huge ramp up, but the final hit is ABSOLUTELY BONKERS LOL.
Yeah. Jet boots is too good. It's like fighter with an extra burst, elemental down, access to technique and a down debuff for bosses. The only thing JB lack is abit of aoe damage, which can be coping with technique or multi with a talis (also get some PP recover from talis) This set up is so so convenient. Bo (JB)/Fo (Talis) is like making for each other, their skill trê compliment each other every single skill point. Then both have vialto series, and does tech damage which make it cheap for f2p to build and multi weapon. About pros: 1 does long range and the other short range, 1 has alot of PP recover from WA and the other has alot of mobility and self defend from WA 1 does a 3nd biggest aoe skill in the game, the other has massive burst and single target dps . So with Bo/Fo, JB/talis set up, u almost have everything without any draw back or weakness with a ridiculously cheap price. Also PP is not a problem since JB does not has PP issue, so no need for PP augment since force passive is good enough
I made a new character as a martial artist. She is Bo/Fi and has a jetboot/knuckle multiweapon. I whaled on the OG weapon camo scratch a few months back and have the stealth weapon camo. And it is the most fun I have had in NGS since it launched.
@@vinny9500 that'd look cool but daaang , I got a "evil shininaro camo" from a rainbow key and sold the camo around christmas 650m last seen it selling for 3-4B after that (yes I was some what broke n dumb) :/
Omg I forgot about the stealth camo! That'll work perfectly for jet boots! How's the Knuckle+JB combo working out for you btw? I'm so down to use Stealth Camo+Plasma Hands and combine those two LOL
@@everydere Like I said, it's been the most fun I've had since NGS launched. They work so well together both aesthetically and with actual combos. Even though NGS knuckle sway is more forgiving I much prefer jetboots action over it. This is my first time seriously maining a multiweapon so I had to change the side buttons on my mouse to be 1-12 again. So it's taking some getting used to.
Thank you glad I was able to help out! Yeah going from base to NGS, JBs feel familiar but new, so it's going to take some adjusting especially with the deletion of crit/pp fields on Bouncer. I think those may make a return in December LOL
Ohhh Gemma shared it on stream? Sick! Hope you enjoyed Gemma's stream and I hope my video helpped you out! If you have any questions, feel free to ask any time!
You can just multi-weapon the soaring blades with a defensive-oriented weapon action sub (e.g, anything that gives a guard or ). Gap-closing is not a problem for soaring at all, besides having a ranged dps burst of 15 seconds every minute, so you are not limited to adding wired lances like everyone else.
Yup! I ended up slapping my SB onto my Sword for a multi wep to save on costs, and hooo boi it *actually works really well* . For Nex's triple laser move, you can just hold down block vs trying to step dodge all 3 hits. And you're right the gap-closing on soaring blade is not a problem with it, which makes it one of my favorite melees to use at the moment. That + the PP efficiency on SB is pretty ridiculous as well once you get 1 photon blade into your target. Roaring Phesant I would like if the first portion stops when it hits the target since that slash at the end does do pretty decent damage, but I'll make do with hitting the PA twice once I reach my destination to beyblade on the spot. Overall it feels like I have more freedom on my multi-weapon choices for SB compared to other melees where like you said, you have to add a WL. Also on top of this, destructive stork also moves you more vertical when you connect with a mob, so this makes petas climbing really easy when he goes full angel mode.
@@haeven1622 YUP. My friend mains a TeBo atm and she's able to knock down like crazy thanks to deband+Bo's subclass skills solo. On top of that, you'll also contribute Shifta+Deband to the whole instance which makes downs ridiculously fast.
@@haeven1622 Sadly "Resta Field - Techter" is restricted to main class only so it won't form an AoE healing field. Shifta & Deband are also locked to Techter so the major skills you'll be receiving are: Weak Element Amp. (Faster PB Gain for matching weakness) Awake Aile (More PB gain when a boss exists) And all of the element related additions like (Zonde Clad, Barta Blot, Zan Gale, Grants Glitter, Megid Sphere). Another combo if you haven't tried it out but want to be a more offensive caster is FoBo since Force gets *130%* more damage on downed targets and Bo's subclass down abilities can make it reallllly ridiculous.
It was the same for me in base PSO2 too. I preferred JB over SB, and then Etoile's SB was the variant I liked more than the Bouncer version. Mainly because it didn't have to do the insane amount of stance cancelling to get max DPS LOL.
Gunblade is a long way away, so I'm maining every class getting the most out it if until then. So far, I'm going SB and using ds as a multi - weapon, Etoile memories.
I'm 100% in the same boat LOL. I've been changing my main so many times as I just wait for the Gunblade class next year. I miiight end up maining Summoner until the Gunblade class if it's super unique. But I'm 100% dropping everything for the Gunblade class and hoarding my N-Meseta/Materials in prep to get everything day 1 for it. Also how's the SB+DS combo I wanna relive some etoile memories too!
Yeah they shifted Shifta+Deband to be 100% Techter's niche now. I'm curious how it'll play out later with the December update + the other elements being added to the game (Where's my Zanverse SEGA?)
So I'm not the only one that think SB is very lacking right now, good to know. And yeah I've been in love with JB right now, and one thing that I realize after playing JB for a while now is if you chain unhold Spinning Gust + unhold Violent Gale the blot build up is much quicker, but I'm still not sure. And I also notice that during the beginning of Jet Intensity animation there actually an i-frame too because I don't get hit when doing it, need confirmation tho. And I personally think that it is better to focus on one weapon rather SB or JB because you will save a lot of skill point that way and you will also perform better.
Interesting, I've noticed at the start of Jet Intensity it's like a 50/50 if I get hit so I couldn't tell if it was an iFrame or my character's model just evading the attack (since we move left/right). Also chaining unhold Spinning+Violent gale I have to test out cause that sounds amazing if it builds up blot to 5x really fast. It'd probably be more DPS too since, if you're full TEC, the blot explosion would hit like a truck. Also for focusing on one or the other weapon, I 100% agree. In the current state of the game doing a hybrid build like Base PSO2 isn't as powerful in NGS *yet* . As we get more augments in the game, hybrid builds will start emerging more frequently, but at the current state it's definitely better to just focus on one attack type. I ran into the same issue with Braver using Bow+Katana and ended up just going all in on Bow OR Katana with a multi-wep of their respective damage type.
@@everydere Yeah at first I also thought whether because it is my character is already out of the way but then when I fight Vet Bujin and at the moment he about to hit me but I mistakenly hold the normal attack and begin the Jet Intensity animation I don't get any damage. And yesterday I already testing the chain again and apparently chaining hold Spinning Gust + hold Violent Gale can get you instant full stack of blot, so this is the better rotation imo. But the only thing I feel lack about JB is that we didn't get vertical targeting for some Tech like Barta. Hope they will buff or fix it.
I agree, the SB seems a bit underwhelming. The WA could be buffed like maybe the block skill of etoile on base pso2 since they gave its counter on DS. It makes sense since the animation of WA is already like surrounding you for defense
Yeah I 100% thought the WA was going to active similar to Etoile (Activate for a short parry/guard point), was pleasantly surprised it had none of that and I 100% thought it was a glitch LOL. Since Fanatic Blade also doesn't give you a parry//guard point when you use it too, this means you can be hit during fanatic blade which cripples your DPS
So far melee classes releases kinda getting worse and worse in terms of effective usage. Hunter sword is probably perfect melee, having counter and parry not to mention block as well. Hunter dps is nut if you fighting with bosses that hits a lot. Same as fighter on dagger have really reliable abilities as well as WA that tp you to enemy despite its dmg may be undeewhelming a bit. But it isnt so bad at all same with knuckles... But soaring blade and katana is questionable. It feels they were made to be used on ground due to katana movesment and counter from soaring blade is only via evade counter.
@@enviinv Yeah 100% Katana's setup even when combined with a WL pretty much leaves you immobile in NGS to receive your max DPS which feeels pretty bad. Soaring Blades, I'm not really too sure why they didn't put in SB Etoile's parry or the general from using a photon blade. It feels like a huge oversight especially since every melee has some form of counter outside of step dodging. Hoping December addresses the SB issue + adds vertical/horizontal movement gap closers to speed up the feeling of melee (Kinda like PSO2's Katana/Luster/Hero).
I agree! It's very satisfying to play since it's pretty much master the PAs, WA and stepdodge movement + your s. There's nothing else to really keep up with outside of tapping Fanatic Blade every 60s, so it's realllly satisfying to play once you get it down (and super easy too!). There is a Photon Blade change coming in which might be in the game ATM, but it's to address the WA completely breaking the game by being the top DPS by throwing it out then doing a normal attack (This was HUGE on TD/SB where you do WA->Pirouette).
Thanks for the tutorial to confirm my feeling of "grounded blades"! I hope either the new PAs or other patches help return the feel of Soaring Blades from base PSO2. Back in base PSO2, when I played Bouncer soaring blades, my character was zipping around all over the place (because I based off Soaring Blades Tackle). In NGS, since the alternate forms of the PAs lock you in place, honestly it feels more like a worse version of the hunter's sword. Aside: If you want to break the chapter 1 story, play Bouncer with both weapons: the bosses will spend well over half the battle downed!
Continuing into the Retem Update, it's still grounded blades T_T BUT we did get the Etoile style parry which makes it's QoL so much better. I'm kinda hoping within 2022 SEGA starts implementing slowly more PAs to start returning the weapons back to their base PSO2 style of gameplay. Gunner is a great example of this where TMGs where heavily grounded gameplay, until Retem came out which gives them back their aerial gameplay. Also I didn't even think about how Bo's downed increases would affect the CH1 story boss, that sounds hillarious LOL.
Hey a quick correction: Rampaging Harrier's second activation is the only one with i-frames, and it's a decent window too. The other two PA's don't have any s at all. Spent a while testing it. Soaring blades as a backup weapon when using Braver sub or as a multiweapon choice is interesting. It can function somewhat like a physical Talis weapon action, allowing ranged PP gain at a distance for weapons that usually wouldn't be able to do this, like sword or knuckles.
Ohhhhhhhhhh thank you! I'll update the top pinned comment! I spent some time trying to figure out if destructive stork had it as well, but it might just be your character's hitbox being moved vertical vs being an actual . I did see some comments mention Destructive Stork's second half having some hyper armor (prevents you from being interrupted), and can confirm it has that to a certain degree. Also I like that combination idea for BoBr. I've thought about combining Katana+SB to see how it'd play out, and my current SB is on a Sword for leveling purposes (Sword is already fully affixed). Can confirm the Sword+SB WA is actually pretty sick on HuBo and is probably one of my favorite combinations right now. It's a little awkward with the setup I use, but I put the SB WA on my subpalette then my quick use button is how i activate the WA in between PA hits. A comment somewhere pointed out some theory crafting they were doing where if you do the WA inbetween PAs it actually increases the DPS of SB to be some of the highest in the game.
Thanks for the video. Im exited to tried it out as I loved bouncer in PSO2. I think im chosing Jet Boots, mostly because what I loved about Soaring blades was the soaring part =(
No problem! Also Jet Boots are really fun and i'm sure you'll enjoy it! I'm sad about the lack of soaring on the soaring blades too, but hopefully December's update will change some things around for it.
I've seen a lot of people suggest that multi-wep and can confirm it's sick af and *looks sick as hell*. I'm using the Stealthing Weapon Camo for my JB as suggested by a comment, and * Plasma Hands for my knuckles and it looks sooooo sick on downs!
Actually, I found a cool tech with the soaring blades with the roaring pheasant, you can aim yourself downward when locked on something, and in midair when pressing down on joystick or s on keyboard
Maining hunter and using the skill "heavy hunter" can let you use the kick flurry of jet boots to great effect. You can get if off 3 times while under heavy hunters protection. Since it maxes the jet boot active (that can be used while bouncer is subclass) on the final hit, you can get two uses of it before your heavy hunter runs out. The hunters durability in general pairs well with sloppy aggressive players like me, who just want to kick stuff until its dead.
Hunter's durability is so freaking great, even I end up using that skill too when I wanna turn off my brain LOL. I'm kinda hoping down the line Hunter gets more crazy damage reduction to make it more like an Etoile from base PSO2.
@@everydere what build is this in the video? Like sub and main class, I’m new to this, and I really like, how your character looks and move arounds. If you can tell me, I’ll appreciate it.
ooo I'll try that out thank you! Usually my filler if it didn't reel back after the normal attack hold, is jetsweep jolt ASAP if it's up or spinning gust hold. Whenever my PB is up though, I usually do Fierce Wave (Hold) -> PB -> Normal Attack Hold, and usuually this allows the last normal attack hit to hit before it reelsback and then I go right back into Spinning Gust (Hold).
It's so true LOL. My dream team now for a random boss UQ party is: Bo, Fi, Ra, Te, another Bo cause why not, and then more Fis to just see how fast it can instantly die
Luckily Soaring Blades did get that etoile style parry now in Retem! So it's not as bad as before and makes it more functional. Downside, Jet Boots really did get all the love T_T. I'm hoping the next portion of the updates adjusts soaring blades to be even more sick.
There's a rollerblade camo for jet boots, but on my server its about 2 8million in base =_= (this should legally require a rollerblade movement option!)
Tbh, I like the Soaring Blades a bit more. Gives me a mix between both have game Bouncer and Etoile. Also, for class buildups, I've got a few ideas I'd like to share. I feel like this class is more up-close and personal rather than base game's which was more offensive support. I think to add on to this playstyle I think Gunner/Bouncer or Bouncer/Fighter would work really good.
Oooo I've actually butchered my fighter tree and done the full 10/10 defeat advantage and can confirm it works REALLY well. Bosses get downed nearly immediately from stacking 3x phys up or 3x elemental up, and the extra damage on top is very nice. I've seen GuBo suggested in another comment and I'm 1000% going to try it out since Gunner's my original main and one of my favorite classes ESPECIALLY after they made some adjustments to chain/sroll canceling. Thanks for sharing!
Yess! A fellow Soaring Blade user! It's pretty fun after spending more time with it! I initially played Jet boots and immediately clicked with how easy it was to use, but I really want to learn Soaring Blades for aesthetic reasons and it's working out pretty well atm
@@everydere Yeah, I want to multiweapon for a dodge weapon action. I already leveled and augmented a cattleya blade, so the choices I'm debating are knuckles or twin machine guns. Though if I were to start from scratch I'd go with evolcoat blade + saber.
SB was one of my favorite weapons in base Pso2. So I was super happy when they were added. 5 minutes into playing them and realizing they had NO counter other than side stepping, I switched back to hunter and called it a day. The casting length of SB PA's with NO counter/block/ on the weapon action...is just super troll. :/
Yeahhh going from base PSO2 SB for Bouncer or Etoile then going to NGS SB is a night and day difference. I was expecting something similar to etoile's weapon action for SB, or atleast some s when you use the WA. But instead you can be completely interrupted by damage when you use the WA and on top of that, Fanatic Blade doesn't give you hyper armor either sooo if you get hit during Fanatic you lose DPS. I'm hoping December changes it to be more in line with how Bo/Et's version of it played out, cause atm you really do have to side step everything for your most reliable dodge/counter.
Hey Bouncer main here, it does have a block, but since you wanna be lazy how about I explain it to you, you actually have to press the weapon action in the middle of photon art at the right moment, sure it's difficult but it's good in it's own way when you pull it off or not because I doubt you'll understand, no offense though
With JB, my rotation is: Spinning Gust[Hold]->Violent Gale[Hold]->Fierce Wave[Hold]->Spinning Gust[Hold] Sometimes I'll start with Violent Gale to reposition around an enemy if I'm already close, but I've found the above rotation to be extremely effective. You could of course just go back and fourth between Spinning Gust and Violent Gale. Definitely a huge fan of holding down the basic attack. That final hit is nutty and oh so satisfying. Only really useful on downed/stationary enemies. The spacing with JB is just so good, the PAs do all the work for you. I personally don't put any points into the gap close skill (the one where you move towards a target shortly after casting). Found the delay after the cast to be too long to be useful on anything but a sitting target and it doesn't really take you very far IMO. Violent Gale and Spinning Gust work well enough for me to reposition/gap close. I don't find myself ever using the blots/clads. Sometimes during PSE bursts I'll spam an AOE technique, but other than casting one to change my weapon element, I'm all PAs with the JB. The only thing that disappointed me with JB Bouncer was the photon blast. It's kinda meh.
Thanks for sharing your in depth rotation! Also that's very interesting not taking the gap closing skill, I use it pretty infrequently but mainly for the Pettas fights where they fly off into narnia. Repositioning with Violent Gale is smart AF too! How's the blot/clad build up when you do this rotation btw cause I remember reading a comment earlier where they had something similar and apparently it allowed you to get clad/blot ridiculously fast.
As insane as it is, My main uses Soaring blade with a katana as a Multi-weapon as I find the combo great for Mob Control, channeling K-X's inner Ronanoro Zolo. Different way to counter enemies with Katana counters for quick attacks, SB's dodging-counters for a stronger counter attack, charging in with katana strikes when a boss is down, and with a skill that boosts Katana combat it's like it was meant to be. Back in PSO2C, the class combo was good but the DEX status were broken due to the MAG under-scrolling and the Phantom Class was introduced to balance the two classes after the fix. Thankfully, the Multi-weapons as well as the revamped multi-class combat made the class combo better for NGS.
Oh my god if they get added, I'm going to flip so hard from excitement. Phantom + Luster were some of my most favorite classes every introduced into PSO2. Luster hands down since I am a gunblade simp, so I'm REALLLY hoping the NGS variant for Gunblades pulls some stuff from Luster and from the OG Gunslash PAs. Already all the base PSO2 classes making a return feel reallllly good, and they're making adjustments to them still (This Bouncer Update actually came with a balance patch buffing all the classes), so I'm REALLY excited to see Scions come back one day!
@@everydere same, cant help but be hyped to see how phantom will be implemented into ngs, the way bouncer's kit was implemented was legitimately 10/10
I am the bone of my sword. Steel is my body and fire is my blood. I have created over a thousand blades. Unknown to death. Nor known to life. Have withstood pain to create many weapons. Yet, those hands will never hold anything. So as I pray, UNLIMITED BLADE WORKS
I think you're the first person to catch that LOL. I WAS SO CURIOUS what the range would be so I PB'd in the middle of the field then IMMEDIATELY went "Why on earth did I do this".
@@everydere For the first few days I thought that PB was a ranged special consumable that had to buy and I was a Hunter. Compared to that... I don't think anything can compare to that.
"But... we also have three Photon Arts." We have Four in current PSO2 NGS. Surging Impulse is our long range gap closer iirc. So I hope you plan to update this guide.
As a Braver main from base PSO2 (BR/HU then BR/PH), I think they shifted Braver to a more timing based and counter heavy class. Really that's not fair for those who don't like that style and preferred the mobility that Braver brought to the table. Unless you played BR/PH, this new style won't be for you. BR/PH relied heavily on counters. I am okay with this style, but the fact we don't have a decent gap closer still blows my mind.
Bouncer 1000% feels really fun in comparison to Braver for me sadly T_T. Protoman's correct where current braver plays more like BrPh minus a gap closer whiiich has to be addressed across the board for melees in December's update. Meanwhile Bouncer feels REALLY good in NGS where Jet Boots have everything you'd ever want for a weapon, and Soaring Blades are still really fun to use with the only downside being a lack of defensive moves at the moment (which will be addressed in December most likely)
What if you Multi-weapon Soaring Blades so you get access to Rod PAs? Use the barrier as your defensive option? Go full Kingdom Hearts 2 Final Drive and start casting Reflect.
I use Bo - SB as a second main (with Hu - Sword). Using Fi as a sub-class with down passive buffs is great ! To compensate Fo advantages I don't have, I use what I called a 'PP Boost' recipe (+recovery, -consumption, +PP). It works very well together and allow you to spam A LOT of Photon Arts on bosses' weak spots. Basically, the beyblade can deal over 1k to 2k damage PER activation (dealing 100-200 per tick) and also, something that is VERY important, on that move : You're completely immune to knockbacks while doing so (it is important to remember you'll still take damage). Finally, I think Blade Arts Parry is a game-changer if you use it well, especially for Harrier and Destructive Stroke (perfect for PSE !).
I was a Bo main base (until Et) and I am loving the class. I've mainly just had troubles re adjusting to the new JBs since I lost my crazy gap closer and no longer have shifta and deband on call. Also glad im not the only one who felt SB was...off. I find it odd that there was no float dodge on the PA like the base version, especially with it being the bread and butter of SB's kit. Hoping its just bugged atm or it gets some kind of change.
I think December might add the crazy gapclosing shenanigans + other JB moves back into the game. SB I'm hoping as well gets some additions to make it feel more in line with Et/Bo SB in December as well. I felt the same way when I started using SB cause it feels like a familiar weapon that's also completely new, and missing something that I can't realllly put my finger on LOL. For me, it's the weapon action not having any sort of defensive /guardpoint to it. But Roaring Pheasant's 1 tap version also phasing through enemies (instead of stopping and doing the final slash), feels kinda awkward as well. I've gotten used to it and just double tap for the stationary beyblade when I reach my target, but it did take a lot of adjusting though.
Whaaat any source on those rumors cause I'm gonna be so freakin excited if they changed the ordering! I remember the initial roadmap said Summoner -> Gunblade, but I'm 100000% on board if we get gunblades wayyy earlier. Although I would still like to know how NGS works Summoner since it was introduced in JP PSO2 as a "Beginner" class that ended up devolving into a super convoluted class that pretty much broke the game in funny ways when you heavily invested into it LOL.
@@everydere I've heard someone mention that the next class would be gunblade on Azelyra's discord, it wasn't Azelyra himself that said but some of the viewers and idk I got excited too
@@everydere also I don't like summoner.. :( It contradicts with my fighting spirit, I don't want to have monsters fight in my stead kind of stuff you know what I mean
@@elation00 oo yeah I know what you mean, for me summoner's not my cup of tea either since I prefer non-pet classes + I like to get up close to the bosses/mobs. Also that's super interesting I hope the rumor's true cause mannnn I'd love my gunblade class right now T_T
I loved soaring blades soo much in the base game. Even with the new PA's, bouncer doesn't feel as good in NGS, and I switched over the braver, even though I absolutely hated braver in the base game. Funny how things change so much.
I understand they were gonna change it, I'm still too attached to how jet boots work in base PSO2. Zooming around everywhere, and twirling kicks in between every attack with the weapon action made it where I could pretty much be as fast as I want to be and never stop attacking. As for soaring blades, I wish you could shoot the weapon action darts during your other attacks, at least during the cooldown ability. Bouncer was my main in base PSO2, but I think I might still be having more fun with ranger for NGS, unless I can multiweapon them together in a practical way. Also, I think bouncer is the first class that needs melee AND tech focus for stats/augments? Also, I recommend putting Zondeel on your main palette for jet boots so you can place it every so often for extra stacked electric damage. I'm wondering how well jet boots multiweapon with twin machine guns would work...
Yup Bouncer's the first class that requires TEC+MEL augments (Braver's the first hybrid in NGS with RNG+MEL). I was surprised too with how they implemented Bouncer into NGS since it's definitely not as zoomy as base PSO2 and I hope they bring back that high speed action. Although that might change when they re-introduce wind techs into the game and tie some speed component to them LOL. Soaring Blades I 10000% agree you should be able to WA during PAs similar to how Etoiles would use their WA inbetween PAs, cause it feels a little awkward doing it in between PAs atm with not too much of a trade off. JB+TMG I've heard is actually reallllllly fun but I haven't tried it out yet T_T (I just finished hitting 60 in New World)
@@czffaffsafsafa8136 yup! In December it's already confirmed more class skills will be coming in + SEGA has already made an adjustment to the SB WA (which I have to test out once I get on). The adjustment was a nerf to multi-wep SB WA since the DPS values broke the game, so hopefully on SB itself it's better overall in terms of DPS. Once that December Update rolls around, every class will be running into a pretty massive gameplay change with an additional 10 levels + more SP/Class Skills. I'm hoping for some PAs too especially for Gunner where it's critical range is melee, but it doesn't have a melee gap closer for it's highest DPS move (point blank).
Well I actually have jet boots multiweaponed with dual machine guns, and it works ok, decent in both close up and ranged, however it takes more of the pa slots than I'd like it too lol
@@mikeheffner1331 Yeah I'd loveee some more PA slots on weapons. ATM I have my weapon action bound to my Shift which frees up 1 slot, but i'd kill for 2 more PA slots per palette
Hope they add a dodge to the weapon action for soaring blades in the new skill tree update. Edit: "Bouncer is the king of downs" made me chuckle a little to myself...
omg LOL and I'd love for a dodge/parry to the WA, or a class skill that lets you use it during PAs like Etoile SB from base PSO2. I feel like they gave us 80% of bouncer, and they're saving the rest for December's update since it is coming reallllly soon
At first I thought I liked Jet Boots more than Soaring Blades but then I figured out how to play it and I was like..... Soaring Blades is easy mode, Jet Boots is "let me use all the tools in my swiss army knife because I can".
I ran into the same feeling at a certain point too LOL. JB you have to manage Jetsweep Jolt, Clad+Blot, 3 techs on your subpalette + your Photon Blast, vs SB where your PAs are pretty much all you use and then you get fanatic blade + PB. JB really feels like you have to use everything since you just *have access to everything*. While SB is pretty clear cut "dodge/counter + throw blades until it dies".
JBs use TEC augments and all fall under TEC potencies. For NGS, the damage is no longer split for weapons so they will all use one attack potency type that corresponds with the weapon's icon color/PA color as follows: Red = MEL augs Blue = RNG augs Yellow = TEC augs Hope that clarifies it for you!
Depends on your sub class. I’ve found that fighter/fist is a good one for SB. It gives you the weave weapon action which allows you to stay in the enemies face. While mitigating the amount of damage you take. Plus you get downed enemy damage boost! The next I’d recommend is hunter/wired lance for the elevation changes in boss fights and even more AOE abilities. Making you a great CC during the defense mission. Also hunter skill tree gives you a defense boost which you’ll need to be a decent CC’er. Wired lance weapon action is the main focus with this one. Multiweaponing a sword is fun as well and you’ll get the 360• weapon action parry. But I wouldn’t recommend it because there is a heavy delay if you’ve already used a SB PA. One more that I tried is Gunner/twin machine guns. It’s really fun and with the TMG you will be able to make the soaring blades actually SOAR lol. Since you’ll be in the air most of the time with TMG. This also helps the TMG by giving you better gap closers with SB PA’s. So you can always stay within critical range to maximize TMG damage. You’ll also have really good CC abilities with this class/weapon combination. I hope this gave you some ideas!!
Yoo thank you for helping out with the suggestion, and these are some REAL good ideas that I haven't though about yet! (I'm still heavily experimenting with different wep combos+classes), WL is definitely something I'm leaning more towards due to defense quests having A LOT of mobs and the extra CC as you said is extremely helpful there. I've tried out the multi-wep sword (SB onto my sword atm) and can agree the Sword block I only really ended up using when Nex does a triple laser beam vs trying to step dodge it. TMG+SB I'm REALLY curious about since Gunner's one of my favorite classes so I'll definitely try that out!
As far as Bouncer goes, I’m maining Soaring Blades because dual wielding is one of my favorite styles next to katanas. I like Jet Boots, they just look ridiculous so waiting for something to make them look cool.
I loveee dual wielding as well! And some great suggestions have been made for jet boot camos, I've gone with the weapon stealthing camo so it's invisible and looks like im just unleashing kicks on all my enemies!
I went wholly into SBs because of how underpowered they were in base (until Luster sub became available anyway), expecting Sega to have learned from their mistakes and correcting them for NGS. I had to multiweapon into Twin Daggers for their WA just to make up *part* of the shortcoming (you still can't interrupt PAs well even with TD WA). If everything is absolutely *perfect*, SBs do really solid damage, but that isn't gonna happen. The one real thing that makes them worth using at all is the Photon Blade Fever analogue, which is the best part breaker in the game now...it is ridiculously easy to expose lesser boss weakpoints with the skill. The 60 second cooldown is also pretty generous given how good the skill is...but they really just need to give SBs the Etoile non-interruption parry...no counter attack necessary...just a few s and 2 photon blades, on the same cooldown as now, which also doubles your available guard frames during PBF (or whatever it's called now...I keep forgetting).
1000% Agreed the Etoile SB WA style of parries would be a MASSIVE game changer for SB. It's actually what I was expecting the class to have from the teasers, but was surprised when it didn't act like it. What surprised me too is the WA is just throwing out photon blades without anything else on top of it vs Bouncer where you get an on blade throw. Honestly I'd LOVE being able to WA during PAs, toss 2 blades and have it be a guard point.
Hi Hi my jet boot camo is called * A Leaf in Autumn Breeze , it's available from the photon booster shop in base PSO2 for free! You only need I think 10 photon boosters total which come from Advanced Quests in base PSO2
I mained Bouncer in Base, I don't remember any real defense. But I do remember a lot of I-frames and we could use shifta with dband. And a lot of feilds. Like resistance fields and stuff. I think that's where the shifta/deband type field is at. I figure Bouncer will get more defensive aide as the skill tree grows. Most of the defensive stuff was tree dependent.
Yeah most of the defense for Bouncer came from pure s and for SB Etoile it came from the WA. Also I was surprised Crit Field + Elemental PP Restorate Field did not make it back into NGS. Instead we have a kinda-sorta break stance making it's return in the form of accelerating downs. It's going to be interesting with December's update if they are actually waiting to release all the fields for Bo around that time. I'm super excited tbh for the December Update since Bouncer being this good at the moment, means it's going to get better in December.
Super important question...Why does your weapon look like the Oathkeeper/Oblivion Keyblades?? Is that a thing that I can get in game or is it some sort of mod? Thank you for the answer.
Hi Hi! It's a weapon camo called "* Lumiere Fonse" it's obtainable from base PSO2 player shops (it miiight be heavily inflated). It was given for free from an ARKS HOUR broadcast code, so there's always a chance SEGA will just bring it back for free! Sorry for the late reply! (Holidays+Endwalker+FF7R grinding happened LOL)
10000% also next update (December) has revealed Soaring Blades will be virtually 1:1 to Etoile Soaring Blades now. They're going to allow you to use the weapon action mid PA to parry. Also there was a recent "nerf" to the weapon action which results in a buff to soaring blade Bo, same potency under fanatic blade, and a nerf for the WA+Normal that tripled FiBo Twin Dagger damage.
If you're focusing 1000% on Tech, you won't have to add power III at all regardless of your subclass. Now if you're planning on using Soaring Blades, you will need MEL affixes to boost it's power. Hope that helps out!
Yup as Draco said, Jet boots will scale with TEC. In NGS there's no split stats for single weapons so they've actually color coded the icons/PAs what it uses as the following: Blue = RNG atk Red = MEL atk Yellow = Tec atk Hope that helps you out!
TeBo works very well since there's not too much you're losing outside of faster elemental downs on JB. Techter's probably one of the most unique main classes since it pairs REALLY well with every subclass from Hunter to Bouncer. Shifta & Deband also make up for the 10% potency loss you'll have from using JB on Te vs Bo (and this potency loss isn't too bad at all TBH). Overall I highly recommend TeBo + with the awake aile changes from a couple patches ago, you should be able to build PBs ridiculously fast especially with an Evolcoat series JB! Hope that helps answer your question!
SB does need some sort of defense added in and I don't know how they're gonna do that right now. I'd have the designed the weapon differently and I can describe on the comments upon request. So far I realized that for maximum damage and PP recovery as well as air mobility, using WA before just basically any action by tapping both buttons at the same time but as simultaneously as possible will optimize your DPS. It has a 1 second cooldown and you can hold the WA button to make it work. You can even do it after step dodging and before countering. With Fanatic Blade active, you can do your first normal attack into WA repeatedly to add to the damage by tapping the normal attack button every 0,5 seconds. I feel mastering this unique and strange WA will be instrumental for sustained DPS because the numbers indicate SB is way up there in terms of DPS. For SB I think TD and JB are the best MW options. They both give you a "Drive" type of skill, making you have great gap closers. Their WA counters are both great AND gap close, and they each have their individual benefits. * Note that for Jet and Axel Drive to work you'll need to have TD or JB's specific normal attack assigned to your palettes. It won't work off SB's normal. For TD: - You can spec purely into melee while having a weapon that will give you superior mobility and defense. - You can do the same tech I said with Fanatic Blade, just instead of a Normal Attack you time Pirouette Ripper with every WA release. The DPS is about 650+, it's insane. * Note that for this to work you'll also need to have SB's specific WA added to your palette since you'll have TD out, but you can use SB's WA without changing weapons back and forth. For JB: - It will require you to spec hybrid damage if you want to make full use of both weapons but you also get access to techs for long-range mobbing and Farming with Zonde. Otherwise just spec into melee and keep JB as utility with minimal damage. - You can contribute towards Physical and Elemental downs and amplifiers in equal measure. You may even be able to single-handedly keep up both debuffs on a UQ for your party. - You get access to JB's broken WA counter which fixes SB's defense problem for the most part, and Jet Intensity when needed. - Both weapons will have the +10% Main Class damage bonus.
This is a very very interesting breakdown thank you so much for this! I was in a friend's stream last night and we were talking about SB, and he mentioned about people trying out a tap WA method which I was excited to see if someone ran the numbers on. It does seem like the playstyle would mimic a little bit of early Episode 3 Bo back in JP where we did normals+WA repeatedly so this is very interesting. Also I 100% agree on TD+JB for the movement options, I've decided on going BoFi/FiBo with a SB+TD setup once I get my drops and it is absolutely bonkers especially when combined with the SB WA like you said. I'm most likely going to try out a full TEC spec'd JB setup as well in the future to see how that works out. Also I'd love to hear how you would design SB! I was thinking for me, I'd have the WA act like DB Etoile in base PSO2 except it just shoots a photon blade + parries. So you'd be able to WA during any point of your PA to parry a hit, but on a successful parry during a PA, it would shoot out 4 Photon blades instead of 2 (just like fanatic blade).
@@everydere Turns out Roaring Pheasant isn't parsing very well in the DPS department and I think it could be made to cover more distance, or be made into a new PA I will suggest underneath. To start it off on the actual changes, one thing I've been learning in game design is, if you have to constantly push a button to do a thing that is not a primary gameplay interaction (such as basic attacking), then you should find a way to make it automatic or passive. And with this I am, of course, talking about the Photon Blade throwing. So the changes would be: - Photon Blades are thrown regularly, passively, at your target, as something you get off the skill tree at a 1sec Cooldown whenever you attack or defend or are otherwise acting in combat such as step countering. - Step Counter does not lose altitude, hitbox extended upwards somewhat (so you can hit things like Varas when it storms). - For every Photon Blade attached at the enemy, if you hit them with your 3rd normal attack, they detonate like mini Volkraptors for minor damage and restore 1 to 2 PP. - WA becomes a Sword-esque parry counter. Standard, slow, powerful hit with enough iFrames to pull it off repeatedly. - Fanatic Blade is now a passive skill in the skill tree and is activated by holding down the WA button, with the exact same functionality as it is now save for the fact that the Photon Blade throwing is passive. So I get that they may have wanted SB to be a bit more grounded and that's fine. Most of SB's aerial problems could be fixed by just changing the Step Counter. The new PA that would substitute Roaring Pheasant would be: Justice Wing (A fusion of Justice Crow and Dash Wing from PSO2 Base) - You draw a shield with your blades for about 1 second, blocking attacks in front of you. If you let it rock, the skill will fire the shield as a big projectile that deals a lot of damage. You can reactivate the ability before the projectile is fired to fly at high speed invisibly to your target (invulnerable) with vertical tracking if you have anything targeted or free flight by not having a target. Holding space during flight makes it so you rise and holding WA makes it so you descend. You fly ahead for about 1 second before you slash in front of you against anyone in your way. With this you'd fix the defense problems with the weapon, you'd make it less awkward to use by not having to press WA all the time, you give the WA two situational functions, and you also make Soaring Blades truly Soaring.
I would sure enjoy it if they did like you said, though, and just added block frames to WA, it's what it should do and I don't know why it isn't so. The animation is there.
@@tyrfang I agree 100% with those Photon Blade changes. It's pretty much how I would hope SB photon blades would be implemented knowing Bo was coming to NGS especially with the passive throws of them. Step Countering not losing attitude is very interesting, and I never really thought about changing that. It would solve A LOT of melee problems too if it was extended to the other melee weapons as well. Changing the WA to a Sword Counter when tapped and fanatic blade when held sounds very innovative since you'd trade the counter for pure fanatic blade DPS, which also gives you a way to dish out some damage as you chase bosses who love to jump to the other side of the map. Also your PA concept of Justice Wing would be SICK, a reactive shield + a gap closer when 2x tapped to soar (since it is soaring blades) would open up so many possibilities that I'd love for NGS SB to have. It's also a design from base PSO2 I miss, cause I believe it was late Episode 4 PSO2JP? Where every class started to get some sort of PA that covers distance+vertical movement as bosses/mobs got bigger and bigger. I'm hoping in December's update we get some form of your suggestions cause these really do work for making it less awkward + fixes a lot of the issues of SB currently.
@@everydere I think if anything FB could still be an active skill but the reason I wanted to bake it into WA is to reduce sub-palette bloating as much as possible, especially considering we're going to have new skills and techs coming in December.
JET SET RADIOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO, I can't wait for that spiritual successor game to come ouuuut, I think it's called "Bomb Rush Cyberfunk" if you haven't seen it
So I'm a weirdo and techter/bouncer using the bouncer weapon and playing as a hyper aggressive support. Also seems to be a bug that's allowing me to use my wand multiweapon so i still can use my wires to climb annoying bosses.
Ohh TeBo is a very good combination, and brings back TeBo from base PSO2 as well! Also could you explain the bug you're running into cause that seems interesting. For my Bo setup on BoFi/BoFo on soaring blades, I have a multiweapon sword that I slapped a SB onto so I don't have to make a separate SB for leveling atm LOL.
@@everydere i just changed my subclass and nothing in my pallet. My multiweapon wand that had wires on it didn't lose access to using the wire weapon action i had in the bar.
@@rashaad93 Ohhh yes that's actually intended! You can still use the WA for Wires (when multi'd) even if you don't have Hunter as a subclass. On BrFo/BrGu I use a Katana+Wires Multi wep, because it allows me to use the wire WA without Hunter. This also opens up interesting multi-wep possibilities like Partizan+Talis but HuFi/HuGu, which gives you extra PP regen to supplement the high PP cost of Partizan.
Oh my god yessss, I can't wait to see how we implement Scions into NGS or if we're going to get them. We did get a mixture of base classes + scion classes with our weapons (TMG is a great example of this), but I would love for the Scion classes to make a return with a new NGS interpretation of them.
Hi Hi! So the tech skills are already pre-learned, when you try to setup your palettes for your weapon or subpalette (these are your 1/2/3/4/5 bar), you can select the tech skills by pressing the little magic staff icon. It should show the following which is: Foie / Zonde / Barta along with their AoE variants. Hope that helps you out!
@@SlySmuggler You can use fire as well! There's no real special rotation for these, it's mostly use which ever one your target is weak to. But if you're mobbing, zonde is enough for mobbing purposes. It'll proc a circle around you if you have Zonde Clad, and this makes it hit harder
I've been waiting for jet boots ever since I've played this game, but for some reason I've gravitated towards soaring blades instead. I just hope they atleast make us keep altitude when step dodging mid-air since it's... soaring blades ... and I haven't tested this yet, but I realized there is a step counter in this weapon. I hope it can travel up, that way we don't fall every dodge when fighting big bosses
Im hoping next update or whenever they put in more PAs helps keep altitude. SEGA introduced a way for TMGs to maintain it's height similar to base PSO2 so maybe we might see something similar for SBs!
Hi Hi! It's called "*Lumiere Fonse" it should be available from base PSO2 player shops and hopefully isn't scalped to all hell. It was free from one of the ARKS hours so hopefully SEGA brings it back for free.
Hi Hi! The camo is called " * Lumiere Fonse" it was available from a previous ARKs hour and you should be able to obtain it from player shops in base PSO2. Hope that helps you out!
SB Bouncer Vet since the Tweaker days of PSO2, but I do put a bit in JB. The Levi slash makes SBs worth it. That said, it's too bad NGS ditched the AOE from PSO2 Classic and limited techs to JB. And don't get me started on losing Dash Strike.
I'm hoping we get to see more classic PSO2 PAs come back next update T_T. On Gunner, I'm completely missing grim barrage which makes me reallly miss being able to just instantly fly to a weak point.
I really dislike focusing on jet boots. I wont play bouncer if i have to do that. if I can use mainly soaring blades with maybe dual weapon with jet boots for a skill or 2, that'd be great. any ideas for how?
So I've been playing exclusively SB to not look dumb with my lack of JB camos (although I've now fixed this), and here's some things that'll really help you out in your SB adventures. 1. Bind step dodge to an easy button to access (this is E for me), this way you're not double tapping movement keys to dodge. 2. A comment says there's some theorycrafting going on where *pressing the weapon action BEFORE every PA press is actually a massive DPS gain* and Under fanatic blade, you would do Normal Atk -> WA -> normal Atk WA for more damage, these calculations should come out relatively soon. 3. Multiweapon your SB to ANY other melee weapon you like or JB if you want to hybrid it. I've settled on BoFi with a SB+TD that I'm working on so I get all the benefits of TD, while also being able to use SB anytime I want. Another option I've found which works hillariously is my current leveling weapon of Sword+SB which gives me access to sword's block for things like Nex's triple laser move. 4. Another comment says Destructive Stork is actually hyper armor (can't be kb'd) on the second PA press, not an iFrame. To follow up another comment said that Rampaging Harrier's second PA press is actually the only iFrame. These are still up for testing, but I can confirm Rampaging Harrier (x2) is very very good for fights where you need to dodge repeatedly like Bujin. 5. You CAN be knocked out of Fanatic Blade as you throw swords, so make sure you're able to keep machine gunning them and dodge attacks. 6. Roaring Pheasant DOES phase through enemies however you can press it again at ANY point to stop right on the target, this is great for super long gap closing, but in a boss fight generally Destructive Stork + Rampaging Harrier will be your best friends. 7. SBs are actually pretty balanced weapons in terms of what they can do (1v1/AoE), so you're not really crippling yourself using them vs jet boots, it just takes some time to learn. 8. If you find yourself dying, try out 1x Vialto+2xGeant for your armor instead of 3x Geant Units. This will make you sliiightly more tanky than usual which is enough to live. 9. Try out a lot of subclass combinations to see which one fits you the best. I tried out BoHu and it worked pretty nice for a tanky SB, and HuBo with the WA trick up above is actually pretty sick damage on Sword+SB. I ended up settling on BoFi for SB+TD and also allows me to reverse it to TD+SB as well if i play FiBo. Not much is locked to the Bo main class outside of downs. Edit: #10 = 1v1 that Bujin fight to figure out what you can and can't get away with. Bujin is faster than everything in the game and knowing when you can/can't hit vs Bujin makes the rest of the game super easy Hope that helps you out in your SB adventures! So far I'm having a blast just using purely SB!
OHHH Tell me how TeBo works out! I haven't tried it out yet since I'm still working on making some multi-wep combos, but I was thinking about it earlier where you just replace wand with JBs and go full base PSO2 Bouncer. Also Wave Crash's new range on Techter Wand is absolutely humongous now LOL
Hi Hi! The camo i'm using is "* Lumiere Fonse" it was a free camo from the arks hour and I think you can purchase it from the player shops in base PSO2. Hope that helps you out! EDIT: If you combine it with the Braver [Ba] from the SG scratch and make it black, you could roleplay as Sora from KH
I had to stop playing pso2 because my PC was too low spec for NGS but I'm watching all your videos Kinda sad that you don't need tec cancel to turn the SB into a machine gun but seeing how Sega is going with the game isn't out of place
I hope they fix the optimization to meet levels of base PSO2 T_T, cause you're not the only one I've seen who had to stop playing PSO2 due to the NGS update. Also yeah, they streamlined the SB machine gunning by A LOT. It feels a little awkward though since now you kinda just run around when fanatic blade is up and hold down your weapon action LOL. But I can't deny how cool it is to see a flurry of numbers rain on your enemy + take a sip of water as you do it
What do you think about using jet boots bouncer and fighter as class and subclass? I am new in the game and I'm in love with both classes, but I don't know if it's viable using them together.
That combination is 100% viable and one of the best combos considering Bouncer causes downs ridiculously fast + You'll have access to elemental downs on Jet Boots. Bouncer in general is super PP efficient (this means you won't have any PP issues), so running something like BoFi would mean you'll need Clad+Blot on the Bouncer tree to get their effects. So for your skill tree setup, if you ignore SBs and just focus purely on Jet Boots, you can reallocate all the SB points and get some more damage off it. On Fighter, if you have skill tree reset passes and you're 100% certain on one of the weapons you're going to use. You can spec purely in that one weapon and max out Defeat Advantage. I did this with Twin Daggers since I know I won't be playing too much Knuckles+Double Sabers. BUT! I would only do this if you're 1000% certain since Skill Tree Reset Passes are pretty rare. If you're uncertain if you'll play the other weapons, you can lower the amount of SP in defeat advantage just to have access to all 3 Fi weps down the line. Next Skill Tree Reset Pass should be awarded around December's update which will increase the level cap + add more class skills. Hope that helps you out!
@@everydere Thank you so much for the help, I'll try what you said and as I am planning to use twin daggers I'll put all the points in defeat advantatge. I really appreciate your advice ^^.
I prefer the Jet Boots weapon action combo in base PSO2 as opposed to having to hold down the PAs to switch things up. The New Genesis Jet Boots feel too restricted in movement.
Agreed, the movement compared to base feels restricted and I hope the december update makes it feel a little more fluid. I do enjoy they put a guard point at the end of Spinning Gust + Violent Gale but it kinda kills the momentum of the class when that slow kick comes out LOL. Hopefully December's update is going to add more speed+fluidity to movement to a lot of the weapons in NGS. Especially for melee weapons since it's pretty much down to WL/TD/JB as the only ones who can close the distance relatively fast. I want my guilty break for sword please SEGA T_T
@@everydere I was hoping the jet boots would have the weapon action enhancements as well. But another thing i was hoping for was the one PA in base pso2 with jetboots that is basically a long dash to close gaps. that was a very good movement skill and it allowed you to get to flying enemies pretty easy as well, i want that skill back.
@@vixenxia2475 Ohh I know that skill and I want it back too! I'm hoping December adds more PAs cause there's a lot I miss from base PSO2 (Guilty break on Sword, Grim Barrage on TMG)
@@vixenxia2475 Honestly, I was hoping that most if not all of Bouncer's PAs would come back. The gap closing and chain hits were great and I'm a Ranger main.
@@mickelmaldonado5910 Heres to hoping for the december update promising to add new PAs for all classes includes those jetboot PA's, i loved my mobility with them back in base pso2.
Great vid and content! Looks fun, but as a Phantom main, NGS still offers me nothing compared to base pso2. Maybe next year or the year after that it'll finally be worth playing again lol.
Thank you! Also I CAN'T WAIT FOR PHANTOMMM TO RETURNN! Compared to base PSO2, my favorite two classes came down to Phantom and Luster, but as you said, there's nothing in NGS that really equals how smooth and schmooving those two really felt. I'm hoping December's update is going to expand how the classes are now to equal more of that sick Ph/Lu gameplay and evolve upon it next year. In NGS I was playing Hunter + Gunner quite a lot as I wait for the gunslash class to come. But now I'm shifting more towards Gunner again after the huge QoL buffs. Still not on the same level as Ph/Lu though yet T_T
@@everydere I totally agree! I used to think Phantom was by far the best, then i had a good friend get really good with Luster and I was blown away by how sick LU is too. Gunner has had some nice flows, and i liked Braver, but yeah nothing quite like the fluidity from Lu/Ph.
So the full mechanic on jetboots allows you to use zonde to imbue your JBs with electric. Every JB PA's *ender* applies a clad proc build up. I think a comment said doing hold Spinning Gust into hold Violent gale was the fastest way to build it up, but once it's full built up and you have the circle around you, fully charge a Zonde. Another option if you don't want to be lazy and it's a PSE burst, is drop a Gizonde uncharged and spam violent gale. This makes zonde clad build up ridiculously fast since Gizonde procs give more building + Violent Gale's last hit on the PA builds it up as well. Hope that answers your question!
Does the melee on the PA for JB scale with melee the techniques scale with tech or does everything just scales off tech? I don't want to waste resources if I can just use my melee armor as is
Yup as Toshio said, it scales completely off TEC. All weapons as of NGS scale with one attack type and don't split their damage. This also means I needa make a TEC unit set too T_T, or just modify my units a little and go for more MEL+TEC
I am happy that bouncer is doing great but at the same time i am afraid that just because of the big damage on that hold lmb's last hit, majority of people will only play jet boots and every open area will be filled with lots of bouncers which kinda defeats the purpose of having variety of weapons
Yeah in Global it happened earlier where a lot of people just started playing purely only Fighter since it was super strong in a 1v1 boss scenario. Hopefully there's some more variety ESPECIALLY with the new class buffs across the board. Gunner is eating reallllllll good along with Wired Lance+Partizan and Force too. Bouncer will most likely be the most played in the areas until the novelty wears out, and then we miiiiight see some people switch their classes around. I'll put out a little video relatively soon covering the new changes, cause they added so much QoL to the classes already in the game. One of my favorite ones is Braver's Iris Gale range was something I *wish* was bigger, and the latest update made it HUGE so AoE on katana is really fun to do now. Here's a list of the changes from Bumped if you'd like to see them: www.bumped.org/phantasy/balance-adjustments-10-13-2021/
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Edit(10/16/2021): Some viewers have said there's a hyper-armor state on Destructive Stork's 2nd Tap (Prevents you from being KB'd), and Rampaging Harrier is actually the only one with an iFrame at the start of the second tap! I'll update this pinned comment as we find out more as a community! Also some theorycrafting for DPS rotations for SB in a comment below says to WA inbetween PA hits for max DPS which is very interesting, so make sure you try it out!
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for multi weapons personally Im still split between wanting using to use
"D-saber or T-Dagger with S-Blades" , "Katana or T-Daggers With J-Boots"
what are your thoughts on these combos?
Jetboots win cause it can dempsey roll downed bosses but with kicks(which has comparable dmg to photon blast)
Also i use the smart obs camo since i have thruster accesories so it looks like my char use rocket propelled kick!
*the first 8 seconds*
lumiere fonse was the greatest discovery in market, glad it was a free camo.
after playing sb for sometimes now I noticed that Destructive stork second button make you *felt stork (invincible to knock), you still took the demage but you won't get launched by enemy attack :')
and you can hold the pa button for a second in order to make it skip to 2nd form of it's pa
New player, just downloaded the game yesterday and I went straight to Bouncer after seeing the jet boots. Thanks for the explanation on how to use them efficiently
Nice! I was waiting on this video
Whoa super fast! hope it was worth the wait!
@@everydere I did! Didn't know about the s in PAs and that spinning gust fills the the guage the fastest. I always thought it was fierce weave's left over waves
Wish I could double like for the Jet Grind/Set Radio music 🤘
I can't wait for bomb rush cyberfunk to come ouuuuuut
@@everydere ikr I just "Can't get enuff!"
Video is rated R for so many REFERENCES!
You got me the minute you called them skates and bumping Jet Set Radio. 👏
Jet boots in base feel better, but when I played em I was like "yep, these definitely feel like jet boots" and I fell in love ever since.
In NGS their more "Boots" than "jet"
@@auser6729 Fair, regardless its' still fun to literally curbstomp enemies this time rather than figuratively.
I'm surprised by how they made jetboots in NGS cause it feels so familiar yet new, and I love it. I feel like that's how I'd describe most weapon implementations from base to NGS is "Familiar yet new"
I multi-weaponed SB with Jet boots. Im loving it right now. It’s so fun to use Pas from both weapons at the same time.
This is my plan, what wep did you choose to main? And do you still get the same damage for each weapon regardless of the main wep choice for multi?
I'm thinking about making a set of those too once I get my evolcoat drops, especially since I'm sitting on my weekly N-Meseta cause my fashion is like 50k an item (I play a dude). Also quick question since you've made the multi-wep already, do the photon blades stay embedded in your target when you switch to JB?
For the damage calculations on multi-weps, your mainclass weapon will always receive the +10% potency. So if you do Sword(Main)+SB(Multi) but you play BoFo, the SB will still receive the 10% potency even though it's not the main weapon. This means on SB+JB you'll receive the +10% pot on both but augments I believe only apply to the weapon type (This means you'll need TEC+MEL augments).
@@everydere I have a blade main multi with knucks but I’m going to switch it to blade/boots and definitely subbed and would love to see another video with good multi wep builds. I wanna do bouncer main sub force cause force is by far my favorite sub class.
@@everydere so what would be the best augs for this build? SB main with boots sub.
Gemma was showing this on their stream today, good guide. Thanks
Thank you for the kind words and that's sick! Hope I was able to help you out, and if you've got any questions feel free to ask!
Jet boots are the S-tier Brawl Metaknight weapon in this game. Jet intensity alone is fucking ridiculous (highest recorded for me being 13.9k damage on downed Vera), AND it has infinite counters on the weapon action with no end lag.
When holding a normal attack does more damage than the Photon Blast, it’s insane.
Also, Hyper Night Parade is the best jet boots camo. Hands down
More damage than a photon blast?!? Damn Jet Boots is king then.
Played a around a bit leveling with boots last night and all I could think was "They're gonna nerf these so hard. They're *way* too good."
@@mawnkey well it does take very long to get to the final kick so, it's not that OP imo.
O I FORGOT ABOUT HYPER NIGHT PARADE THANK YOU. Also you're correct I'm planning on reviewing all the weapons next and Jet Boots sits in basically it's own tier LMAO at the moment. I wonder if they're going to do some adjustments since I'm curious about the DPS calculations for the normal attack cause it does have a huge ramp up, but the final hit is ABSOLUTELY BONKERS LOL.
Yeah. Jet boots is too good. It's like fighter with an extra burst, elemental down, access to technique and a down debuff for bosses. The only thing JB lack is abit of aoe damage, which can be coping with technique or multi with a talis (also get some PP recover from talis)
This set up is so so convenient. Bo (JB)/Fo (Talis) is like making for each other, their skill trê compliment each other every single skill point. Then both have vialto series, and does tech damage which make it cheap for f2p to build and multi weapon.
About pros: 1 does long range and the other short range, 1 has alot of PP recover from WA and the other has alot of mobility and self defend from WA 1 does a 3nd biggest aoe skill in the game, the other has massive burst and single target dps .
So with Bo/Fo, JB/talis set up, u almost have everything without any draw back or weakness with a ridiculously cheap price. Also PP is not a problem since JB does not has PP issue, so no need for PP augment since force passive is good enough
I made a new character as a martial artist. She is Bo/Fi and has a jetboot/knuckle multiweapon. I whaled on the OG weapon camo scratch a few months back and have the stealth weapon camo. And it is the most fun I have had in NGS since it launched.
who needs some fancy camo when you can kickass with you own fists n foot haha XD
Im doing the same
@@matty4z Not gonna lie, I do want Natsu's fire fist camo from Fairy Tale. But it's like 2.4 billion meseta on base PSO2jp.
@@vinny9500 that'd look cool but daaang , I got a "evil shininaro camo" from a rainbow key and sold the camo around christmas 650m last seen it selling for 3-4B after that (yes I was some what broke n dumb)
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Omg I forgot about the stealth camo! That'll work perfectly for jet boots! How's the Knuckle+JB combo working out for you btw? I'm so down to use Stealth Camo+Plasma Hands and combine those two LOL
@@everydere Like I said, it's been the most fun I've had since NGS launched. They work so well together both aesthetically and with actual combos. Even though NGS knuckle sway is more forgiving I much prefer jetboots action over it.
This is my first time seriously maining a multiweapon so I had to change the side buttons on my mouse to be 1-12 again. So it's taking some getting used to.
Thank you, been waiting for you to put out a guide for Bouncer. Great Guide!
Thank you! Glad it was able to help you out!
Simple and Clean, was that a KH reference?! So its a pun within a pun!? God dman you are a genius
If I had more time (New World sucked it all up T_T), I'd make my character look like Sora too LOL
@@everydere we need more videos , your voice so smooth!
@@raidenyamato3085 Thank you!
The jet boots felt changed since base pso, so had to relearn it and using this a material to guide myself back into it. Definitely helping TY
I used the 'blood rifle' to get 9 classes to lvl 100 lol XD
Thank you glad I was able to help out! Yeah going from base to NGS, JBs feel familiar but new, so it's going to take some adjusting especially with the deletion of crit/pp fields on Bouncer. I think those may make a return in December LOL
dont mind me, just watching your vid in Gemma's stream! Also thank you!
Ohhh Gemma shared it on stream? Sick! Hope you enjoyed Gemma's stream and I hope my video helpped you out! If you have any questions, feel free to ask any time!
You can just multi-weapon the soaring blades with a defensive-oriented weapon action sub (e.g, anything that gives a guard or ). Gap-closing is not a problem for soaring at all, besides having a ranged dps burst of 15 seconds every minute, so you are not limited to adding wired lances like everyone else.
Yup! I ended up slapping my SB onto my Sword for a multi wep to save on costs, and hooo boi it *actually works really well* . For Nex's triple laser move, you can just hold down block vs trying to step dodge all 3 hits. And you're right the gap-closing on soaring blade is not a problem with it, which makes it one of my favorite melees to use at the moment. That + the PP efficiency on SB is pretty ridiculous as well once you get 1 photon blade into your target. Roaring Phesant I would like if the first portion stops when it hits the target since that slash at the end does do pretty decent damage, but I'll make do with hitting the PA twice once I reach my destination to beyblade on the spot. Overall it feels like I have more freedom on my multi-weapon choices for SB compared to other melees where like you said, you have to add a WL. Also on top of this, destructive stork also moves you more vertical when you connect with a mob, so this makes petas climbing really easy when he goes full angel mode.
I'm using bouncer as my subclass with soaring blades. it compliments a mechgun gunner mainclass build very nicely.
I actually needed this since I'm new to ngs. Great Job!
Thank you and welcome to NGS! If you've got any questions about the game, feel free to ask and I'll help answer them!
I am fascinated with Bouncers, Techters and the mechanic of combining classes. :D
Ohh if you haven't tried it out yet, BoFi is some hillarious fun with how fast you can down mobs and yeet them out of existence LOL
@@everydere Nice! Thanks for the advice! I have a question however! Do you think a Techter-Bouncer will get some decent knockdowns?
@@haeven1622 YUP. My friend mains a TeBo atm and she's able to knock down like crazy thanks to deband+Bo's subclass skills solo. On top of that, you'll also contribute Shifta+Deband to the whole instance which makes downs ridiculously fast.
@@everydere That's very impressive and interesting! If I make Bouncer-Techter, can I still heal others a bit?
@@haeven1622 Sadly "Resta Field - Techter" is restricted to main class only so it won't form an AoE healing field. Shifta & Deband are also locked to Techter so the major skills you'll be receiving are:
Weak Element Amp. (Faster PB Gain for matching weakness)
Awake Aile (More PB gain when a boss exists)
And all of the element related additions like (Zonde Clad, Barta Blot, Zan Gale, Grants Glitter, Megid Sphere).
Another combo if you haven't tried it out but want to be a more offensive caster is FoBo since Force gets *130%* more damage on downed targets and Bo's subclass down abilities can make it reallllly ridiculous.
JSRF music with Jet Boots, you marvelous human being
Bomb Rush Cyberfunk *WHEN* SEGA?
I've always preferred JB over SB, they always felt more unique to me and I like floating around
It was the same for me in base PSO2 too. I preferred JB over SB, and then Etoile's SB was the variant I liked more than the Bouncer version. Mainly because it didn't have to do the insane amount of stance cancelling to get max DPS LOL.
Soaring Blades really does seem like Kingdom Hearts especially with that weapon skin on
If you get the Braver outfit from the SG scratch, you can make 1:1 to Sora!
Gunblade is a long way away, so I'm maining every class getting the most out it if until then. So far, I'm going SB and using ds as a multi - weapon, Etoile memories.
I'm 100% in the same boat LOL. I've been changing my main so many times as I just wait for the Gunblade class next year. I miiight end up maining Summoner until the Gunblade class if it's super unique. But I'm 100% dropping everything for the Gunblade class and hoarding my N-Meseta/Materials in prep to get everything day 1 for it. Also how's the SB+DS combo I wanna relive some etoile memories too!
Sucks that JB don't provide shifta after a certain PA was a good selling point in base.
Well at least jet boots got more spicy in ngs dps wise so id say its worth the loss of shifta/deband (which afaik is now a techer only schtick).
Yeah they shifted Shifta+Deband to be 100% Techter's niche now. I'm curious how it'll play out later with the December update + the other elements being added to the game (Where's my Zanverse SEGA?)
Started using soaring but after seeing this I’m gonna give jets a chance. Thanks for the vid and I subbed
So I'm not the only one that think SB is very lacking right now, good to know.
And yeah I've been in love with JB right now, and one thing that I realize after playing JB for a while now is if you chain unhold Spinning Gust + unhold Violent Gale the blot build up is much quicker, but I'm still not sure. And I also notice that during the beginning of Jet Intensity animation there actually an i-frame too because I don't get hit when doing it, need confirmation tho. And I personally think that it is better to focus on one weapon rather SB or JB because you will save a lot of skill point that way and you will also perform better.
Interesting, I've noticed at the start of Jet Intensity it's like a 50/50 if I get hit so I couldn't tell if it was an iFrame or my character's model just evading the attack (since we move left/right). Also chaining unhold Spinning+Violent gale I have to test out cause that sounds amazing if it builds up blot to 5x really fast. It'd probably be more DPS too since, if you're full TEC, the blot explosion would hit like a truck. Also for focusing on one or the other weapon, I 100% agree. In the current state of the game doing a hybrid build like Base PSO2 isn't as powerful in NGS *yet* . As we get more augments in the game, hybrid builds will start emerging more frequently, but at the current state it's definitely better to just focus on one attack type. I ran into the same issue with Braver using Bow+Katana and ended up just going all in on Bow OR Katana with a multi-wep of their respective damage type.
@@everydere Yeah at first I also thought whether because it is my character is already out of the way but then when I fight Vet Bujin and at the moment he about to hit me but I mistakenly hold the normal attack and begin the Jet Intensity animation I don't get any damage. And yesterday I already testing the chain again and apparently chaining hold Spinning Gust + hold Violent Gale can get you instant full stack of blot, so this is the better rotation imo. But the only thing I feel lack about JB is that we didn't get vertical targeting for some Tech like Barta. Hope they will buff or fix it.
I agree, the SB seems a bit underwhelming. The WA could be buffed like maybe the block skill of etoile on base pso2 since they gave its counter on DS. It makes sense since the animation of WA is already like surrounding you for defense
same blocking as the katana , forcer or daggers would be good
Yeah I 100% thought the WA was going to active similar to Etoile (Activate for a short parry/guard point), was pleasantly surprised it had none of that and I 100% thought it was a glitch LOL. Since Fanatic Blade also doesn't give you a parry//guard point when you use it too, this means you can be hit during fanatic blade which cripples your DPS
So far melee classes releases kinda getting worse and worse in terms of effective usage. Hunter sword is probably perfect melee, having counter and parry not to mention block as well. Hunter dps is nut if you fighting with bosses that hits a lot. Same as fighter on dagger have really reliable abilities as well as WA that tp you to enemy despite its dmg may be undeewhelming a bit. But it isnt so bad at all same with knuckles... But soaring blade and katana is questionable. It feels they were made to be used on ground due to katana movesment and counter from soaring blade is only via evade counter.
@@enviinv Yeah 100% Katana's setup even when combined with a WL pretty much leaves you immobile in NGS to receive your max DPS which feeels pretty bad. Soaring Blades, I'm not really too sure why they didn't put in SB Etoile's parry or the general from using a photon blade. It feels like a huge oversight especially since every melee has some form of counter outside of step dodging. Hoping December addresses the SB issue + adds vertical/horizontal movement gap closers to speed up the feeling of melee (Kinda like PSO2's Katana/Luster/Hero).
I like how SBs are more contained than JBs, so they are easier to control - it is like having a Bouncer-flavored Hu or Fi.
I agree! It's very satisfying to play since it's pretty much master the PAs, WA and stepdodge movement + your s. There's nothing else to really keep up with outside of tapping Fanatic Blade every 60s, so it's realllly satisfying to play once you get it down (and super easy too!). There is a Photon Blade change coming in which might be in the game ATM, but it's to address the WA completely breaking the game by being the top DPS by throwing it out then doing a normal attack (This was HUGE on TD/SB where you do WA->Pirouette).
The Jetboots feel like they'd make a great Rathalos/Rathian character.
Ooo I can see that!
@@everydere The only issue I see with making a Rathalos/Rathian character is the arm wings. Besides that making one wouldn't be to difficult.
Thanks for the tutorial to confirm my feeling of "grounded blades"! I hope either the new PAs or other patches help return the feel of Soaring Blades from base PSO2.
Back in base PSO2, when I played Bouncer soaring blades, my character was zipping around all over the place (because I based off Soaring Blades Tackle). In NGS, since the alternate forms of the PAs lock you in place, honestly it feels more like a worse version of the hunter's sword.
Aside: If you want to break the chapter 1 story, play Bouncer with both weapons: the bosses will spend well over half the battle downed!
Continuing into the Retem Update, it's still grounded blades T_T BUT we did get the Etoile style parry which makes it's QoL so much better. I'm kinda hoping within 2022 SEGA starts implementing slowly more PAs to start returning the weapons back to their base PSO2 style of gameplay. Gunner is a great example of this where TMGs where heavily grounded gameplay, until Retem came out which gives them back their aerial gameplay. Also I didn't even think about how Bo's downed increases would affect the CH1 story boss, that sounds hillarious LOL.
Hey a quick correction: Rampaging Harrier's second activation is the only one with i-frames, and it's a decent window too. The other two PA's don't have any s at all. Spent a while testing it.
Soaring blades as a backup weapon when using Braver sub or as a multiweapon choice is interesting. It can function somewhat like a physical Talis weapon action, allowing ranged PP gain at a distance for weapons that usually wouldn't be able to do this, like sword or knuckles.
Ohhhhhhhhhh thank you! I'll update the top pinned comment! I spent some time trying to figure out if destructive stork had it as well, but it might just be your character's hitbox being moved vertical vs being an actual . I did see some comments mention Destructive Stork's second half having some hyper armor (prevents you from being interrupted), and can confirm it has that to a certain degree.
Also I like that combination idea for BoBr. I've thought about combining Katana+SB to see how it'd play out, and my current SB is on a Sword for leveling purposes (Sword is already fully affixed). Can confirm the Sword+SB WA is actually pretty sick on HuBo and is probably one of my favorite combinations right now. It's a little awkward with the setup I use, but I put the SB WA on my subpalette then my quick use button is how i activate the WA in between PA hits. A comment somewhere pointed out some theory crafting they were doing where if you do the WA inbetween PAs it actually increases the DPS of SB to be some of the highest in the game.
man really said simple and clean 😅😅 take my like
I've waited so long to use my Braver Sora Pants + Keyblade camos LMAO
Thanks for the video. Im exited to tried it out as I loved bouncer in PSO2. I think im chosing Jet Boots, mostly because what I loved about Soaring blades was the soaring part =(
No problem! Also Jet Boots are really fun and i'm sure you'll enjoy it! I'm sad about the lack of soaring on the soaring blades too, but hopefully December's update will change some things around for it.
Jet boots + Knuckles feeeels soo good. Jet boots to down bosses then Knuckles for short window DPS and it slaps hard
I've seen a lot of people suggest that multi-wep and can confirm it's sick af and *looks sick as hell*. I'm using the Stealthing Weapon Camo for my JB as suggested by a comment, and * Plasma Hands for my knuckles and it looks sooooo sick on downs!
Actually, I found a cool tech with the soaring blades with the roaring pheasant, you can aim yourself downward when locked on something, and in midair when pressing down on joystick or s on keyboard
whaaaaaaaaaaaat that's freaking sick ima try that out
Maining hunter and using the skill "heavy hunter" can let you use the kick flurry of jet boots to great effect. You can get if off 3 times while under heavy hunters protection. Since it maxes the jet boot active (that can be used while bouncer is subclass) on the final hit, you can get two uses of it before your heavy hunter runs out.
The hunters durability in general pairs well with sloppy aggressive players like me, who just want to kick stuff until its dead.
Hunter's durability is so freaking great, even I end up using that skill too when I wanna turn off my brain LOL. I'm kinda hoping down the line Hunter gets more crazy damage reduction to make it more like an Etoile from base PSO2.
@@everydere what build is this in the video? Like sub and main class, I’m new to this, and I really like, how your character looks and move arounds. If you can tell me, I’ll appreciate it.
Been fawking waiting for this
I hope the wait was worth it!
For burst phases for Jbs I hold down the normal attack then go into the hold version on the sweeping kick then jetsweep jolt
ooo I'll try that out thank you! Usually my filler if it didn't reel back after the normal attack hold, is jetsweep jolt ASAP if it's up or spinning gust hold. Whenever my PB is up though, I usually do Fierce Wave (Hold) -> PB -> Normal Attack Hold, and usuually this allows the last normal attack hit to hit before it reelsback and then I go right back into Spinning Gust (Hold).
Bouncer is like a support class for the king of burst xD
It's so true LOL. My dream team now for a random boss UQ party is: Bo, Fi, Ra, Te, another Bo cause why not, and then more Fis to just see how fast it can instantly die
was a jet boots main in base pso2, very glad theyre not as one note as they were before!
And they're potentially the best weapon in the game now too!
They really gave jet boots all the love and said screw soaring blades! I feel sad because I was a soaring blade main in base pso2 😢
Luckily Soaring Blades did get that etoile style parry now in Retem! So it's not as bad as before and makes it more functional. Downside, Jet Boots really did get all the love T_T. I'm hoping the next portion of the updates adjusts soaring blades to be even more sick.
Add this with Knuckles and you're the martial arts master of the groupe.
Man i would love a jet grind radio outfit! I miss that game :X
YESSS I'd love a crossover that gives us those outfits and weapons too T_T
@@everydere *nod* I'm still waiting for the xiv crossover that JP got (and waiting for a pso crossover in xiv) *sigh*
There's a rollerblade camo for jet boots, but on my server its about 2 8million in base =_= (this should legally require a rollerblade movement option!)
Tbh, I like the Soaring Blades a bit more. Gives me a mix between both have game Bouncer and Etoile.
Also, for class buildups, I've got a few ideas I'd like to share. I feel like this class is more up-close and personal rather than base game's which was more offensive support. I think to add on to this playstyle I think Gunner/Bouncer or Bouncer/Fighter would work really good.
Oooo I've actually butchered my fighter tree and done the full 10/10 defeat advantage and can confirm it works REALLY well. Bosses get downed nearly immediately from stacking 3x phys up or 3x elemental up, and the extra damage on top is very nice. I've seen GuBo suggested in another comment and I'm 1000% going to try it out since Gunner's my original main and one of my favorite classes ESPECIALLY after they made some adjustments to chain/sroll canceling. Thanks for sharing!
I ran that on my pso2 bouncer and fighter worked extremely well for me
I got up to 75 with jetboots in base PSO2 a little before NGS came out, so now I'm going with Soaring Blades.
Yess! A fellow Soaring Blade user! It's pretty fun after spending more time with it! I initially played Jet boots and immediately clicked with how easy it was to use, but I really want to learn Soaring Blades for aesthetic reasons and it's working out pretty well atm
@@everydere Yeah, I want to multiweapon for a dodge weapon action. I already leveled and augmented a cattleya blade, so the choices I'm debating are knuckles or twin machine guns. Though if I were to start from scratch I'd go with evolcoat blade + saber.
SB was one of my favorite weapons in base Pso2. So I was super happy when they were added. 5 minutes into playing them and realizing they had NO counter other than side stepping, I switched back to hunter and called it a day. The casting length of SB PA's with NO counter/block/ on the weapon action...is just super troll. :/
Yeahhh going from base PSO2 SB for Bouncer or Etoile then going to NGS SB is a night and day difference. I was expecting something similar to etoile's weapon action for SB, or atleast some s when you use the WA. But instead you can be completely interrupted by damage when you use the WA and on top of that, Fanatic Blade doesn't give you hyper armor either sooo if you get hit during Fanatic you lose DPS. I'm hoping December changes it to be more in line with how Bo/Et's version of it played out, cause atm you really do have to side step everything for your most reliable dodge/counter.
hello, did they already change this now? I'm a returning player so I'm not quite updated in the game
@@jillian3654 nope
Hey Bouncer main here, it does have a block, but since you wanna be lazy how about I explain it to you, you actually have to press the weapon action in the middle of photon art at the right moment, sure it's difficult but it's good in it's own way when you pull it off or not because I doubt you'll understand, no offense though
@@zairephenom1435 Touch grass.
I Love your channel and personality 🤙🏾🥰
Now I'm motivated!
With JB, my rotation is:
Spinning Gust[Hold]->Violent Gale[Hold]->Fierce Wave[Hold]->Spinning Gust[Hold]
Sometimes I'll start with Violent Gale to reposition around an enemy if I'm already close, but I've found the above rotation to be extremely effective. You could of course just go back and fourth between Spinning Gust and Violent Gale. Definitely a huge fan of holding down the basic attack. That final hit is nutty and oh so satisfying. Only really useful on downed/stationary enemies.
The spacing with JB is just so good, the PAs do all the work for you.
I personally don't put any points into the gap close skill (the one where you move towards a target shortly after casting). Found the delay after the cast to be too long to be useful on anything but a sitting target and it doesn't really take you very far IMO. Violent Gale and Spinning Gust work well enough for me to reposition/gap close.
I don't find myself ever using the blots/clads. Sometimes during PSE bursts I'll spam an AOE technique, but other than casting one to change my weapon element, I'm all PAs with the JB.
The only thing that disappointed me with JB Bouncer was the photon blast. It's kinda meh.
Thanks for sharing your in depth rotation! Also that's very interesting not taking the gap closing skill, I use it pretty infrequently but mainly for the Pettas fights where they fly off into narnia. Repositioning with Violent Gale is smart AF too! How's the blot/clad build up when you do this rotation btw cause I remember reading a comment earlier where they had something similar and apparently it allowed you to get clad/blot ridiculously fast.
@@everydere Oh yeah, it builds up extremely fast. I still find casting uncharged zonde on mobs to be the fastest way to get clad up though.
@@Himiko_PSO you play like i do brother
The references I can't 😂😂😂 ☠️💀💀 but you have gained another follower/sub
Fanatic blade is basically Vergils Mirage Blades in a nutshell
TIL it's called mirage blade now LOL. I always called it Summoned Swords but I never knew it got changed to mirage blades for the EN localization now
As insane as it is, My main uses Soaring blade with a katana as a Multi-weapon as I find the combo great for Mob Control, channeling K-X's inner Ronanoro Zolo. Different way to counter enemies with Katana counters for quick attacks, SB's dodging-counters for a stronger counter attack, charging in with katana strikes when a boss is down, and with a skill that boosts Katana combat it's like it was meant to be.
Back in PSO2C, the class combo was good but the DEX status were broken due to the MAG under-scrolling and the Phantom Class was introduced to balance the two classes after the fix. Thankfully, the Multi-weapons as well as the revamped multi-class combat made the class combo better for NGS.
man i cant wait to see how scion classes will be in ngs
Oh my god if they get added, I'm going to flip so hard from excitement. Phantom + Luster were some of my most favorite classes every introduced into PSO2. Luster hands down since I am a gunblade simp, so I'm REALLLY hoping the NGS variant for Gunblades pulls some stuff from Luster and from the OG Gunslash PAs. Already all the base PSO2 classes making a return feel reallllly good, and they're making adjustments to them still (This Bouncer Update actually came with a balance patch buffing all the classes), so I'm REALLY excited to see Scions come back one day!
@@everydere same, cant help but be hyped to see how phantom will be implemented into ngs, the way bouncer's kit was implemented was legitimately 10/10
Time use soaring blades to finish my emiya cosplay
I am the bone of my sword. Steel is my body and fire is my blood. I have created over a thousand blades. Unknown to death. Nor known to life. Have withstood pain to create many weapons. Yet, those hands will never hold anything. So as I pray,
UNLIMITED BLADE WORKS
YES!
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Not sure if you know this, but SB Photon Blast does perform better at close range.
I think you're the first person to catch that LOL. I WAS SO CURIOUS what the range would be so I PB'd in the middle of the field then IMMEDIATELY went "Why on earth did I do this".
@@everydere No worries. I still like your analysis breakdown either way. 👍
@@everydere For the first few days I thought that PB was a ranged special consumable that had to buy and I was a Hunter. Compared to that... I don't think anything can compare to that.
"But... we also have three Photon Arts." We have Four in current PSO2 NGS. Surging Impulse is our long range gap closer iirc. So I hope you plan to update this guide.
Damn. As a Katana braver this makes me super jealous seeing how complex and fun this looks. We got kicked to the curb.
the items on the market are showing just that and I feel it too katana's 100k > 1k big oof :/
As a Braver main from base PSO2 (BR/HU then BR/PH), I think they shifted Braver to a more timing based and counter heavy class. Really that's not fair for those who don't like that style and preferred the mobility that Braver brought to the table.
Unless you played BR/PH, this new style won't be for you. BR/PH relied heavily on counters. I am okay with this style, but the fact we don't have a decent gap closer still blows my mind.
Bouncer 1000% feels really fun in comparison to Braver for me sadly T_T. Protoman's correct where current braver plays more like BrPh minus a gap closer whiiich has to be addressed across the board for melees in December's update. Meanwhile Bouncer feels REALLY good in NGS where Jet Boots have everything you'd ever want for a weapon, and Soaring Blades are still really fun to use with the only downside being a lack of defensive moves at the moment (which will be addressed in December most likely)
@@everydere I’d be all for BR being counter dependent if the counter was actually good. As it is now, it’s strap on a resurgir and go step dodging.
Really love SB because of the beyblade move
The Beyblade move is so freaking fun I wish it stopped when I touch an enemy though on the 1x tap version LOL
What if you Multi-weapon Soaring Blades so you get access to Rod PAs? Use the barrier as your defensive option? Go full Kingdom Hearts 2 Final Drive and start casting Reflect.
You can do that! Also with the new retem update soaring blade isn't as bad defense wise, so you can go full on kingdom hearts on people!
I use Bo - SB as a second main (with Hu - Sword). Using Fi as a sub-class with down passive buffs is great !
To compensate Fo advantages I don't have, I use what I called a 'PP Boost' recipe (+recovery, -consumption, +PP).
It works very well together and allow you to spam A LOT of Photon Arts on bosses' weak spots.
Basically, the beyblade can deal over 1k to 2k damage PER activation (dealing 100-200 per tick) and also, something that is VERY important, on that move : You're completely immune to knockbacks while doing so (it is important to remember you'll still take damage).
Finally, I think Blade Arts Parry is a game-changer if you use it well, especially for Harrier and Destructive Stroke (perfect for PSE !).
Blade arts parry is the greatest godsend in this game that SEGA has implemented. I'm seriously so happy SEGA implemented it ASAP LOL
@@everydere Yes, it's life-saving with the proper timing !
I was a Bo main base (until Et) and I am loving the class. I've mainly just had troubles re adjusting to the new JBs since I lost my crazy gap closer and no longer have shifta and deband on call. Also glad im not the only one who felt SB was...off. I find it odd that there was no float dodge on the PA like the base version, especially with it being the bread and butter of SB's kit. Hoping its just bugged atm or it gets some kind of change.
I think December might add the crazy gapclosing shenanigans + other JB moves back into the game. SB I'm hoping as well gets some additions to make it feel more in line with Et/Bo SB in December as well. I felt the same way when I started using SB cause it feels like a familiar weapon that's also completely new, and missing something that I can't realllly put my finger on LOL. For me, it's the weapon action not having any sort of defensive /guardpoint to it. But Roaring Pheasant's 1 tap version also phasing through enemies (instead of stopping and doing the final slash), feels kinda awkward as well. I've gotten used to it and just double tap for the stationary beyblade when I reach my target, but it did take a lot of adjusting though.
Where did u get that weapon camo ive been searching it and cant find anything online on ho to get it can u pls help me
Yeah I love gunblades too, btw rumors say gunblade is the next class to be released so maybe no more summoner
Whaaat any source on those rumors cause I'm gonna be so freakin excited if they changed the ordering! I remember the initial roadmap said Summoner -> Gunblade, but I'm 100000% on board if we get gunblades wayyy earlier. Although I would still like to know how NGS works Summoner since it was introduced in JP PSO2 as a "Beginner" class that ended up devolving into a super convoluted class that pretty much broke the game in funny ways when you heavily invested into it LOL.
@@everydere I've heard someone mention that the next class would be gunblade on Azelyra's discord, it wasn't Azelyra himself that said but some of the viewers and idk I got excited too
@@everydere also I don't like summoner.. :(
It contradicts with my fighting spirit, I don't want to have monsters fight in my stead kind of stuff you know what I mean
@@elation00 oo yeah I know what you mean, for me summoner's not my cup of tea either since I prefer non-pet classes + I like to get up close to the bosses/mobs. Also that's super interesting I hope the rumor's true cause mannnn I'd love my gunblade class right now T_T
@@everydere omg
I loved soaring blades soo much in the base game. Even with the new PA's, bouncer doesn't feel as good in NGS, and I switched over the braver, even though I absolutely hated braver in the base game. Funny how things change so much.
I understand they were gonna change it, I'm still too attached to how jet boots work in base PSO2. Zooming around everywhere, and twirling kicks in between every attack with the weapon action made it where I could pretty much be as fast as I want to be and never stop attacking. As for soaring blades, I wish you could shoot the weapon action darts during your other attacks, at least during the cooldown ability. Bouncer was my main in base PSO2, but I think I might still be having more fun with ranger for NGS, unless I can multiweapon them together in a practical way. Also, I think bouncer is the first class that needs melee AND tech focus for stats/augments? Also, I recommend putting Zondeel on your main palette for jet boots so you can place it every so often for extra stacked electric damage. I'm wondering how well jet boots multiweapon with twin machine guns would work...
Yup Bouncer's the first class that requires TEC+MEL augments (Braver's the first hybrid in NGS with RNG+MEL). I was surprised too with how they implemented Bouncer into NGS since it's definitely not as zoomy as base PSO2 and I hope they bring back that high speed action. Although that might change when they re-introduce wind techs into the game and tie some speed component to them LOL. Soaring Blades I 10000% agree you should be able to WA during PAs similar to how Etoiles would use their WA inbetween PAs, cause it feels a little awkward doing it in between PAs atm with not too much of a trade off. JB+TMG I've heard is actually reallllllly fun but I haven't tried it out yet T_T (I just finished hitting 60 in New World)
Remember guys this is the very BEGINNING of the skill trees. We are only level 20 and we can only get stronger moves from here
@@czffaffsafsafa8136 yup! In December it's already confirmed more class skills will be coming in + SEGA has already made an adjustment to the SB WA (which I have to test out once I get on). The adjustment was a nerf to multi-wep SB WA since the DPS values broke the game, so hopefully on SB itself it's better overall in terms of DPS. Once that December Update rolls around, every class will be running into a pretty massive gameplay change with an additional 10 levels + more SP/Class Skills. I'm hoping for some PAs too especially for Gunner where it's critical range is melee, but it doesn't have a melee gap closer for it's highest DPS move (point blank).
Well I actually have jet boots multiweaponed with dual machine guns, and it works ok, decent in both close up and ranged, however it takes more of the pa slots than I'd like it too lol
@@mikeheffner1331 Yeah I'd loveee some more PA slots on weapons. ATM I have my weapon action bound to my Shift which frees up 1 slot, but i'd kill for 2 more PA slots per palette
Hope they add a dodge to the weapon action for soaring blades in the new skill tree update. Edit: "Bouncer is the king of downs" made me chuckle a little to myself...
omg LOL and I'd love for a dodge/parry to the WA, or a class skill that lets you use it during PAs like Etoile SB from base PSO2. I feel like they gave us 80% of bouncer, and they're saving the rest for December's update since it is coming reallllly soon
At first I thought I liked Jet Boots more than Soaring Blades but then I figured out how to play it and I was like..... Soaring Blades is easy mode, Jet Boots is "let me use all the tools in my swiss army knife because I can".
I ran into the same feeling at a certain point too LOL. JB you have to manage Jetsweep Jolt, Clad+Blot, 3 techs on your subpalette + your Photon Blast, vs SB where your PAs are pretty much all you use and then you get fanatic blade + PB. JB really feels like you have to use everything since you just *have access to everything*. While SB is pretty clear cut "dodge/counter + throw blades until it dies".
i dont even play pso but liked bc jet set radio fan
might try the game 👀
How do you augment for JB? Is the PA and base attack considered melee potency or tech?
JBs use TEC augments and all fall under TEC potencies. For NGS, the damage is no longer split for weapons so they will all use one attack potency type that corresponds with the weapon's icon color/PA color as follows:
Red = MEL augs
Blue = RNG augs
Yellow = TEC augs
Hope that clarifies it for you!
@@everydere very much so, thanks for the reply!
Hey just wondering how do you still feel about the blades
Also wondering if i can main this with my braver katana
what combos of multi weapon would you recommend for SB and Jetboots?
Depends on your sub class. I’ve found that fighter/fist is a good one for SB. It gives you the weave weapon action which allows you to stay in the enemies face. While mitigating the amount of damage you take. Plus you get downed enemy damage boost!
The next I’d recommend is hunter/wired lance for the elevation changes in boss fights and even more AOE abilities. Making you a great CC during the defense mission. Also hunter skill tree gives you a defense boost which you’ll need to be a decent CC’er. Wired lance weapon action is the main focus with this one. Multiweaponing a sword is fun as well and you’ll get the 360• weapon action parry. But I wouldn’t recommend it because there is a heavy delay if you’ve already used a SB PA.
One more that I tried is Gunner/twin machine guns. It’s really fun and with the TMG you will be able to make the soaring blades actually SOAR lol. Since you’ll be in the air most of the time with TMG. This also helps the TMG by giving you better gap closers with SB PA’s. So you can always stay within critical range to maximize TMG damage. You’ll also have really good CC abilities with this class/weapon combination.
I hope this gave you some ideas!!
@@19162205 thanks!
Yoo thank you for helping out with the suggestion, and these are some REAL good ideas that I haven't though about yet! (I'm still heavily experimenting with different wep combos+classes), WL is definitely something I'm leaning more towards due to defense quests having A LOT of mobs and the extra CC as you said is extremely helpful there. I've tried out the multi-wep sword (SB onto my sword atm) and can agree the Sword block I only really ended up using when Nex does a triple laser beam vs trying to step dodge it. TMG+SB I'm REALLY curious about since Gunner's one of my favorite classes so I'll definitely try that out!
@@everydere dude heck yea! I’m glad I could help. And I’m looking forward to you future videos :)
As far as Bouncer goes, I’m maining Soaring Blades because dual wielding is one of my favorite styles next to katanas. I like Jet Boots, they just look ridiculous so waiting for something to make them look cool.
I loveee dual wielding as well! And some great suggestions have been made for jet boot camos, I've gone with the weapon stealthing camo so it's invisible and looks like im just unleashing kicks on all my enemies!
@@everydere that’s pretty cool, I’ll have to look for that.
I went wholly into SBs because of how underpowered they were in base (until Luster sub became available anyway), expecting Sega to have learned from their mistakes and correcting them for NGS. I had to multiweapon into Twin Daggers for their WA just to make up *part* of the shortcoming (you still can't interrupt PAs well even with TD WA). If everything is absolutely *perfect*, SBs do really solid damage, but that isn't gonna happen. The one real thing that makes them worth using at all is the Photon Blade Fever analogue, which is the best part breaker in the game now...it is ridiculously easy to expose lesser boss weakpoints with the skill. The 60 second cooldown is also pretty generous given how good the skill is...but they really just need to give SBs the Etoile non-interruption parry...no counter attack necessary...just a few s and 2 photon blades, on the same cooldown as now, which also doubles your available guard frames during PBF (or whatever it's called now...I keep forgetting).
1000% Agreed the Etoile SB WA style of parries would be a MASSIVE game changer for SB. It's actually what I was expecting the class to have from the teasers, but was surprised when it didn't act like it. What surprised me too is the WA is just throwing out photon blades without anything else on top of it vs Bouncer where you get an on blade throw. Honestly I'd LOVE being able to WA during PAs, toss 2 blades and have it be a guard point.
Whats the weapon camo you use for jet boots in the vid?
Hi Hi my jet boot camo is called * A Leaf in Autumn Breeze , it's available from the photon booster shop in base PSO2 for free! You only need I think 10 photon boosters total which come from Advanced Quests in base PSO2
I mained Bouncer in Base, I don't remember any real defense. But I do remember a lot of I-frames and we could use shifta with dband. And a lot of feilds. Like resistance fields and stuff. I think that's where the shifta/deband type field is at. I figure Bouncer will get more defensive aide as the skill tree grows. Most of the defensive stuff was tree dependent.
Yeah most of the defense for Bouncer came from pure s and for SB Etoile it came from the WA. Also I was surprised Crit Field + Elemental PP Restorate Field did not make it back into NGS. Instead we have a kinda-sorta break stance making it's return in the form of accelerating downs. It's going to be interesting with December's update if they are actually waiting to release all the fields for Bo around that time. I'm super excited tbh for the December Update since Bouncer being this good at the moment, means it's going to get better in December.
@@everydere I agree. I am also looking forward to December's update.
Super important question...Why does your weapon look like the Oathkeeper/Oblivion Keyblades?? Is that a thing that I can get in game or is it some sort of mod?
Thank you for the answer.
Hi Hi! It's a weapon camo called "* Lumiere Fonse" it's obtainable from base PSO2 player shops (it miiight be heavily inflated). It was given for free from an ARKS HOUR broadcast code, so there's always a chance SEGA will just bring it back for free!
Sorry for the late reply! (Holidays+Endwalker+FF7R grinding happened LOL)
Etoille mains gonna realize how spoiled they were with the soaring blades in base PSO2.
10000% also next update (December) has revealed Soaring Blades will be virtually 1:1 to Etoile Soaring Blades now. They're going to allow you to use the weapon action mid PA to parry. Also there was a recent "nerf" to the weapon action which results in a buff to soaring blade Bo, same potency under fanatic blade, and a nerf for the WA+Normal that tripled FiBo Twin Dagger damage.
Should I add power III on my units as I am subbing fighter, or just focus on tech?
If you're focusing 1000% on Tech, you won't have to add power III at all regardless of your subclass. Now if you're planning on using Soaring Blades, you will need MEL affixes to boost it's power. Hope that helps out!
@@everydere I see. Thank you,
@@KamenKami Just slap the power 3 on your fighter weps and Dual Blades
what stats should I prioritize with jetboots? does it scale with MEL or TEC?
Jet Boots damage scales with TEC.
Yup as Draco said, Jet boots will scale with TEC. In NGS there's no split stats for single weapons so they've actually color coded the icons/PAs what it uses as the following:
Blue = RNG atk
Red = MEL atk
Yellow = Tec atk
Hope that helps you out!
@@everydere thanks!
What do you think about going tech main and bouncer sub but playing with jetboots ?
I think It could work really well with shifta/deband
TeBo works very well since there's not too much you're losing outside of faster elemental downs on JB. Techter's probably one of the most unique main classes since it pairs REALLY well with every subclass from Hunter to Bouncer. Shifta & Deband also make up for the 10% potency loss you'll have from using JB on Te vs Bo (and this potency loss isn't too bad at all TBH). Overall I highly recommend TeBo + with the awake aile changes from a couple patches ago, you should be able to build PBs ridiculously fast especially with an Evolcoat series JB! Hope that helps answer your question!
SB does need some sort of defense added in and I don't know how they're gonna do that right now. I'd have the designed the weapon differently and I can describe on the comments upon request.
So far I realized that for maximum damage and PP recovery as well as air mobility, using WA before just basically any action by tapping both buttons at the same time but as simultaneously as possible will optimize your DPS. It has a 1 second cooldown and you can hold the WA button to make it work. You can even do it after step dodging and before countering. With Fanatic Blade active, you can do your first normal attack into WA repeatedly to add to the damage by tapping the normal attack button every 0,5 seconds. I feel mastering this unique and strange WA will be instrumental for sustained DPS because the numbers indicate SB is way up there in terms of DPS.
For SB I think TD and JB are the best MW options. They both give you a "Drive" type of skill, making you have great gap closers. Their WA counters are both great AND gap close, and they each have their individual benefits.
* Note that for Jet and Axel Drive to work you'll need to have TD or JB's specific normal attack assigned to your palettes. It won't work off SB's normal.
For TD:
- You can spec purely into melee while having a weapon that will give you superior mobility and defense.
- You can do the same tech I said with Fanatic Blade, just instead of a Normal Attack you time Pirouette Ripper with every WA release. The DPS is about 650+, it's insane.
* Note that for this to work you'll also need to have SB's specific WA added to your palette since you'll have TD out, but you can use SB's WA without changing weapons back and forth.
For JB:
- It will require you to spec hybrid damage if you want to make full use of both weapons but you also get access to techs for long-range mobbing and Farming with Zonde. Otherwise just spec into melee and keep JB as utility with minimal damage.
- You can contribute towards Physical and Elemental downs and amplifiers in equal measure. You may even be able to single-handedly keep up both debuffs on a UQ for your party.
- You get access to JB's broken WA counter which fixes SB's defense problem for the most part, and Jet Intensity when needed.
- Both weapons will have the +10% Main Class damage bonus.
This is a very very interesting breakdown thank you so much for this! I was in a friend's stream last night and we were talking about SB, and he mentioned about people trying out a tap WA method which I was excited to see if someone ran the numbers on. It does seem like the playstyle would mimic a little bit of early Episode 3 Bo back in JP where we did normals+WA repeatedly so this is very interesting. Also I 100% agree on TD+JB for the movement options, I've decided on going BoFi/FiBo with a SB+TD setup once I get my drops and it is absolutely bonkers especially when combined with the SB WA like you said. I'm most likely going to try out a full TEC spec'd JB setup as well in the future to see how that works out.
Also I'd love to hear how you would design SB! I was thinking for me, I'd have the WA act like DB Etoile in base PSO2 except it just shoots a photon blade + parries. So you'd be able to WA during any point of your PA to parry a hit, but on a successful parry during a PA, it would shoot out 4 Photon blades instead of 2 (just like fanatic blade).
@@everydere Turns out Roaring Pheasant isn't parsing very well in the DPS department and I think it could be made to cover more distance, or be made into a new PA I will suggest underneath.
To start it off on the actual changes, one thing I've been learning in game design is, if you have to constantly push a button to do a thing that is not a primary gameplay interaction (such as basic attacking), then you should find a way to make it automatic or passive. And with this I am, of course, talking about the Photon Blade throwing. So the changes would be:
- Photon Blades are thrown regularly, passively, at your target, as something you get off the skill tree at a 1sec Cooldown whenever you attack or defend or are otherwise acting in combat such as step countering.
- Step Counter does not lose altitude, hitbox extended upwards somewhat (so you can hit things like Varas when it storms).
- For every Photon Blade attached at the enemy, if you hit them with your 3rd normal attack, they detonate like mini Volkraptors for minor damage and restore 1 to 2 PP.
- WA becomes a Sword-esque parry counter. Standard, slow, powerful hit with enough iFrames to pull it off repeatedly.
- Fanatic Blade is now a passive skill in the skill tree and is activated by holding down the WA button, with the exact same functionality as it is now save for the fact that the Photon Blade throwing is passive.
So I get that they may have wanted SB to be a bit more grounded and that's fine. Most of SB's aerial problems could be fixed by just changing the Step Counter. The new PA that would substitute Roaring Pheasant would be:
Justice Wing (A fusion of Justice Crow and Dash Wing from PSO2 Base)
- You draw a shield with your blades for about 1 second, blocking attacks in front of you. If you let it rock, the skill will fire the shield as a big projectile that deals a lot of damage. You can reactivate the ability before the projectile is fired to fly at high speed invisibly to your target (invulnerable) with vertical tracking if you have anything targeted or free flight by not having a target. Holding space during flight makes it so you rise and holding WA makes it so you descend. You fly ahead for about 1 second before you slash in front of you against anyone in your way.
With this you'd fix the defense problems with the weapon, you'd make it less awkward to use by not having to press WA all the time, you give the WA two situational functions, and you also make Soaring Blades truly Soaring.
I would sure enjoy it if they did like you said, though, and just added block frames to WA, it's what it should do and I don't know why it isn't so. The animation is there.
@@tyrfang I agree 100% with those Photon Blade changes. It's pretty much how I would hope SB photon blades would be implemented knowing Bo was coming to NGS especially with the passive throws of them. Step Countering not losing attitude is very interesting, and I never really thought about changing that. It would solve A LOT of melee problems too if it was extended to the other melee weapons as well. Changing the WA to a Sword Counter when tapped and fanatic blade when held sounds very innovative since you'd trade the counter for pure fanatic blade DPS, which also gives you a way to dish out some damage as you chase bosses who love to jump to the other side of the map.
Also your PA concept of Justice Wing would be SICK, a reactive shield + a gap closer when 2x tapped to soar (since it is soaring blades) would open up so many possibilities that I'd love for NGS SB to have. It's also a design from base PSO2 I miss, cause I believe it was late Episode 4 PSO2JP? Where every class started to get some sort of PA that covers distance+vertical movement as bosses/mobs got bigger and bigger. I'm hoping in December's update we get some form of your suggestions cause these really do work for making it less awkward + fixes a lot of the issues of SB currently.
@@everydere I think if anything FB could still be an active skill but the reason I wanted to bake it into WA is to reduce sub-palette bloating as much as possible, especially considering we're going to have new skills and techs coming in December.
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Sorry couldn't control myself.
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So I'm a weirdo and techter/bouncer using the bouncer weapon and playing as a hyper aggressive support. Also seems to be a bug that's allowing me to use my wand multiweapon so i still can use my wires to climb annoying bosses.
Ohh TeBo is a very good combination, and brings back TeBo from base PSO2 as well! Also could you explain the bug you're running into cause that seems interesting. For my Bo setup on BoFi/BoFo on soaring blades, I have a multiweapon sword that I slapped a SB onto so I don't have to make a separate SB for leveling atm LOL.
@@everydere i just changed my subclass and nothing in my pallet. My multiweapon wand that had wires on it didn't lose access to using the wire weapon action i had in the bar.
@@rashaad93 Ohhh yes that's actually intended! You can still use the WA for Wires (when multi'd) even if you don't have Hunter as a subclass. On BrFo/BrGu I use a Katana+Wires Multi wep, because it allows me to use the wire WA without Hunter. This also opens up interesting multi-wep possibilities like Partizan+Talis but HuFi/HuGu, which gives you extra PP regen to supplement the high PP cost of Partizan.
im using jetboots with fighter subclass, while hoping that they would add an ngs scion class that uses knuckles and jetboots as weapon
Oh my god yessss, I can't wait to see how we implement Scions into NGS or if we're going to get them. We did get a mixture of base classes + scion classes with our weapons (TMG is a great example of this), but I would love for the Scion classes to make a return with a new NGS interpretation of them.
Hey hey do you use the the tech skills or find them I'm kind of new to Pso2 new gen.. and I have been able to find or use tech skills
Hi Hi! So the tech skills are already pre-learned, when you try to setup your palettes for your weapon or subpalette (these are your 1/2/3/4/5 bar), you can select the tech skills by pressing the little magic staff icon. It should show the following which is: Foie / Zonde / Barta along with their AoE variants. Hope that helps you out!
@@everydere I'll take a look when I get home thanks for your time again.
@@SlySmuggler No problem! If you still can't find it, feel free to ask any time and I'll help out!
@@everydere I found 6 of them but I don't use fire correct? I put the other 4 on my bar. Is there a special rotation to use it these skill
@@SlySmuggler You can use fire as well! There's no real special rotation for these, it's mostly use which ever one your target is weak to. But if you're mobbing, zonde is enough for mobbing purposes. It'll proc a circle around you if you have Zonde Clad, and this makes it hit harder
I've been waiting for jet boots ever since I've played this game, but for some reason I've gravitated towards soaring blades instead. I just hope they atleast make us keep altitude when step dodging mid-air since it's... soaring blades ... and I haven't tested this yet, but I realized there is a step counter in this weapon. I hope it can travel up, that way we don't fall every dodge when fighting big bosses
Im hoping next update or whenever they put in more PAs helps keep altitude. SEGA introduced a way for TMGs to maintain it's height similar to base PSO2 so maybe we might see something similar for SBs!
but how do you get the soaring blades keyblade skin that is sick
Hi Hi! It's called "*Lumiere Fonse" it should be available from base PSO2 player shops and hopefully isn't scalped to all hell. It was free from one of the ARKS hours so hopefully SEGA brings it back for free.
I'm planning to multi weapon twin daggers and Katana or twin daggers and soaring blades I still can't decide which one :,)
ooo that's a hard choice! Braver also just recently got the update that allows you to 360 counter too!
What’s the camo on the soaring blades
Hi Hi! The camo is called " * Lumiere Fonse" it was available from a previous ARKs hour and you should be able to obtain it from player shops in base PSO2. Hope that helps you out!
SB Bouncer Vet since the Tweaker days of PSO2, but I do put a bit in JB.
The Levi slash makes SBs worth it.
That said, it's too bad NGS ditched the AOE from PSO2 Classic and limited techs to JB.
And don't get me started on losing Dash Strike.
I'm hoping we get to see more classic PSO2 PAs come back next update T_T. On Gunner, I'm completely missing grim barrage which makes me reallly miss being able to just instantly fly to a weak point.
I really dislike focusing on jet boots. I wont play bouncer if i have to do that. if I can use mainly soaring blades with maybe dual weapon with jet boots for a skill or 2, that'd be great. any ideas for how?
So I've been playing exclusively SB to not look dumb with my lack of JB camos (although I've now fixed this), and here's some things that'll really help you out in your SB adventures.
1. Bind step dodge to an easy button to access (this is E for me), this way you're not double tapping movement keys to dodge.
2. A comment says there's some theorycrafting going on where *pressing the weapon action BEFORE every PA press is actually a massive DPS gain* and Under fanatic blade, you would do Normal Atk -> WA -> normal Atk WA for more damage, these calculations should come out relatively soon.
3. Multiweapon your SB to ANY other melee weapon you like or JB if you want to hybrid it. I've settled on BoFi with a SB+TD that I'm working on so I get all the benefits of TD, while also being able to use SB anytime I want. Another option I've found which works hillariously is my current leveling weapon of Sword+SB which gives me access to sword's block for things like Nex's triple laser move.
4. Another comment says Destructive Stork is actually hyper armor (can't be kb'd) on the second PA press, not an iFrame. To follow up another comment said that Rampaging Harrier's second PA press is actually the only iFrame. These are still up for testing, but I can confirm Rampaging Harrier (x2) is very very good for fights where you need to dodge repeatedly like Bujin.
5. You CAN be knocked out of Fanatic Blade as you throw swords, so make sure you're able to keep machine gunning them and dodge attacks.
6. Roaring Pheasant DOES phase through enemies however you can press it again at ANY point to stop right on the target, this is great for super long gap closing, but in a boss fight generally Destructive Stork + Rampaging Harrier will be your best friends.
7. SBs are actually pretty balanced weapons in terms of what they can do (1v1/AoE), so you're not really crippling yourself using them vs jet boots, it just takes some time to learn.
8. If you find yourself dying, try out 1x Vialto+2xGeant for your armor instead of 3x Geant Units. This will make you sliiightly more tanky than usual which is enough to live.
9. Try out a lot of subclass combinations to see which one fits you the best. I tried out BoHu and it worked pretty nice for a tanky SB, and HuBo with the WA trick up above is actually pretty sick damage on Sword+SB. I ended up settling on BoFi for SB+TD and also allows me to reverse it to TD+SB as well if i play FiBo. Not much is locked to the Bo main class outside of downs.
Edit: #10 = 1v1 that Bujin fight to figure out what you can and can't get away with. Bujin is faster than everything in the game and knowing when you can/can't hit vs Bujin makes the rest of the game super easy
Hope that helps you out in your SB adventures! So far I'm having a blast just using purely SB!
I'm gonna do Tech main/ bouncer sub. I liked Bouncer jet boots in base pso2 because it has shifta/deband buffs when doing a variant of its two pa's.
OHHH Tell me how TeBo works out! I haven't tried it out yet since I'm still working on making some multi-wep combos, but I was thinking about it earlier where you just replace wand with JBs and go full base PSO2 Bouncer. Also Wave Crash's new range on Techter Wand is absolutely humongous now LOL
@@everydere haven't tested techter's new buffs. I'm still leveling up bouncer and trying out both weapons.
If I want to build a hybrid between the two then how would I have to build that?
What was the soaring blades camo he was using
Hi Hi! The camo i'm using is "* Lumiere Fonse" it was a free camo from the arks hour and I think you can purchase it from the player shops in base PSO2. Hope that helps you out!
EDIT: If you combine it with the Braver [Ba] from the SG scratch and make it black, you could roleplay as Sora from KH
@@everydere I have no idea how to do any of that XD. However thanks for letting me know, im sure I can try to figure it out
I had to stop playing pso2 because my PC was too low spec for NGS but I'm watching all your videos
Kinda sad that you don't need tec cancel to turn the SB into a machine gun but seeing how Sega is going with the game isn't out of place
I hope they fix the optimization to meet levels of base PSO2 T_T, cause you're not the only one I've seen who had to stop playing PSO2 due to the NGS update. Also yeah, they streamlined the SB machine gunning by A LOT. It feels a little awkward though since now you kinda just run around when fanatic blade is up and hold down your weapon action LOL. But I can't deny how cool it is to see a flurry of numbers rain on your enemy + take a sip of water as you do it
I used to run it smooth 60 fps with a high end pc but not I'm dropping mad frames...
What do you think about using jet boots bouncer and fighter as class and subclass?
I am new in the game and I'm in love with both classes, but I don't know if it's viable using them together.
That combination is 100% viable and one of the best combos considering Bouncer causes downs ridiculously fast + You'll have access to elemental downs on Jet Boots. Bouncer in general is super PP efficient (this means you won't have any PP issues), so running something like BoFi would mean you'll need Clad+Blot on the Bouncer tree to get their effects. So for your skill tree setup, if you ignore SBs and just focus purely on Jet Boots, you can reallocate all the SB points and get some more damage off it.
On Fighter, if you have skill tree reset passes and you're 100% certain on one of the weapons you're going to use. You can spec purely in that one weapon and max out Defeat Advantage. I did this with Twin Daggers since I know I won't be playing too much Knuckles+Double Sabers. BUT! I would only do this if you're 1000% certain since Skill Tree Reset Passes are pretty rare. If you're uncertain if you'll play the other weapons, you can lower the amount of SP in defeat advantage just to have access to all 3 Fi weps down the line. Next Skill Tree Reset Pass should be awarded around December's update which will increase the level cap + add more class skills. Hope that helps you out!
@@everydere Thank you so much for the help, I'll try what you said and as I am planning to use twin daggers I'll put all the points in defeat advantatge.
I really appreciate your advice ^^.
@@yanickgarcia4092 No problem! If you have any questions at any point, feel free to ask and I'll be sure to answer!
I prefer the Jet Boots weapon action combo in base PSO2 as opposed to having to hold down the PAs to switch things up. The New Genesis Jet Boots feel too restricted in movement.
Agreed, the movement compared to base feels restricted and I hope the december update makes it feel a little more fluid. I do enjoy they put a guard point at the end of Spinning Gust + Violent Gale but it kinda kills the momentum of the class when that slow kick comes out LOL. Hopefully December's update is going to add more speed+fluidity to movement to a lot of the weapons in NGS. Especially for melee weapons since it's pretty much down to WL/TD/JB as the only ones who can close the distance relatively fast. I want my guilty break for sword please SEGA T_T
@@everydere I was hoping the jet boots would have the weapon action enhancements as well.
But another thing i was hoping for was the one PA in base pso2 with jetboots that is basically a long dash to close gaps.
that was a very good movement skill and it allowed you to get to flying enemies pretty easy as well, i want that skill back.
@@vixenxia2475 Ohh I know that skill and I want it back too! I'm hoping December adds more PAs cause there's a lot I miss from base PSO2 (Guilty break on Sword, Grim Barrage on TMG)
@@vixenxia2475 Honestly, I was hoping that most if not all of Bouncer's PAs would come back. The gap closing and chain hits were great and I'm a Ranger main.
@@mickelmaldonado5910 Heres to hoping for the december update promising to add new PAs for all classes includes those jetboot PA's, i loved my mobility with them back in base pso2.
Great vid and content! Looks fun, but as a Phantom main, NGS still offers me nothing compared to base pso2. Maybe next year or the year after that it'll finally be worth playing again lol.
Thank you! Also I CAN'T WAIT FOR PHANTOMMM TO RETURNN! Compared to base PSO2, my favorite two classes came down to Phantom and Luster, but as you said, there's nothing in NGS that really equals how smooth and schmooving those two really felt. I'm hoping December's update is going to expand how the classes are now to equal more of that sick Ph/Lu gameplay and evolve upon it next year. In NGS I was playing Hunter + Gunner quite a lot as I wait for the gunslash class to come. But now I'm shifting more towards Gunner again after the huge QoL buffs. Still not on the same level as Ph/Lu though yet T_T
@@everydere I totally agree! I used to think Phantom was by far the best, then i had a good friend get really good with Luster and I was blown away by how sick LU is too. Gunner has had some nice flows, and i liked Braver, but yeah nothing quite like the fluidity from Lu/Ph.
@@lukefinley6660 I'm reallly curious what SEGA takes from Luster and Gunslash PAs for the gunblade class cause mann I miss my Dorito of death
How do you trigger clod without casting a tech?
So the full mechanic on jetboots allows you to use zonde to imbue your JBs with electric. Every JB PA's *ender* applies a clad proc build up. I think a comment said doing hold Spinning Gust into hold Violent gale was the fastest way to build it up, but once it's full built up and you have the circle around you, fully charge a Zonde. Another option if you don't want to be lazy and it's a PSE burst, is drop a Gizonde uncharged and spam violent gale. This makes zonde clad build up ridiculously fast since Gizonde procs give more building + Violent Gale's last hit on the PA builds it up as well. Hope that answers your question!
Does the melee on the PA for JB scale with melee the techniques scale with tech or does everything just scales off tech? I don't want to waste resources if I can just use my melee armor as is
boots use tech
@@SatoshiDesu Thank you. As I feared ima need to grind out new armor for tech.
Yup as Toshio said, it scales completely off TEC. All weapons as of NGS scale with one attack type and don't split their damage. This also means I needa make a TEC unit set too T_T, or just modify my units a little and go for more MEL+TEC
@@everydere Thanks for the extra confirm I appreciate and was waiting for this guide before I might of wasted my resources.
I am happy that bouncer is doing great but at the same time i am afraid that just because of the big damage on that hold lmb's last hit, majority of people will only play jet boots and every open area will be filled with lots of bouncers which kinda defeats the purpose of having variety of weapons
Yeah in Global it happened earlier where a lot of people just started playing purely only Fighter since it was super strong in a 1v1 boss scenario. Hopefully there's some more variety ESPECIALLY with the new class buffs across the board. Gunner is eating reallllllll good along with Wired Lance+Partizan and Force too. Bouncer will most likely be the most played in the areas until the novelty wears out, and then we miiiiight see some people switch their classes around. I'll put out a little video relatively soon covering the new changes, cause they added so much QoL to the classes already in the game. One of my favorite ones is Braver's Iris Gale range was something I *wish* was bigger, and the latest update made it HUGE so AoE on katana is really fun to do now.
Here's a list of the changes from Bumped if you'd like to see them: www.bumped.org/phantasy/balance-adjustments-10-13-2021/